Scoopys Variety Mod (formerly LethalExtension)

[rustic pendant]

?

[olive lynx]

I didnt find any issue with it

[fleet linden]

maybe backrooms

try disable that

[crisp hatch]

nicee good to know, thanks!
also thanks scoopy for making this mod, saw it in a showcase so i can't wait to try it out

[fleet linden]

does the console say the mod is running

as in scoopy variety mod

it opens when you launch the game

this thing

the red text is error

[silver stirrup]

I got this on my last session with mates, they'd try to go up the spiral staircase to lose the turret but it'd shoot them both through the walls, happened multiple times and given the nature of Offense it's pretty common for unfair turret deaths through geometry

[fleet linden]

maybe the teleporter mod you have is breaking it

[languid nexus]

this mod is really cool, but yeah, turrets and nutcrackers shooting through walls/doors is a no-go until it get's fixed.

[nova lake]

Turrets shooting through walls is fixed

And config changed for custom moons and multiple moons to be specified

Will be pushing the patch today

Chance of dungeon spawning is taken as its fraction of overall rarity values

Most moons have their "main" map as rarity 300, with the other map a low rarity (around 2 I believe)

So by setting the rarity to 300 you set the spawn rate to be 300 / 602ish which is ~50%

This could be a conflict issue, but make sure the map you are testing on isn't march, as it won't spawn on march even when set to all

That's pretty odd then

So it wasn't spawning at all?

Very weird

Does it work with no other mods?

Yep sweet

In that modlist lc_api and lethalsdk are the only things that jump out as might alter the spawnratebof dungeons

Lethalexpansion compatibility is iffy, at this stage I'd say no because it causes issues

I think it depends on the version of lethalexpansion, I haven't tested myself

But other people have reported problems

[hasty wyvern]

Just run lethal expansion core

I've not run into any noticeable issues thus far, will update if that changes.

[timber basin]

Rule of thumb right now is lethal expansion doesn't play nice with interior mods

Even the core can have issues

[nova lake]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/scoopy/Scoopys_Variety_Mod/ new version dropped

one new tile, improved config moon settings (you can now enable custom moons, or provide lists of moons), fixed turrets shooting through shit

if turrets still shoot you through an object pls let me know

[barren schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

[nova lake]

if you edited your config you'll likely need to update it as the settings have changed

[sick relic]

How long does it take to show up on r2modman

[nova lake]

10-20mins

[olive lynx]

I love the new broken bridge room, that's exactly what I was missing from this interior, some nice environment dangers 😄

[rustic pendant]

soooooooo im going through walls

and my teammates see me going through

is this lethal expansions fault

[olive lynx]

Most problably it's either that or different configs

[rustic pendant]

well we have the same configs

this hasnt happened before and it was always fine until we just updated

[olive lynx]

This last update from half an hour ago changed the config so I suggest to delete it and let the mod create it again
I had to do it too to get the interior to spawn because it wasn't working even if the guaranteed option was set to true

[rustic pendant]

gonna try this with them rn i will see

[nova lake]

yep try resetting configs, but lethalexpansion is also a pretty common cause of similar desync issues

[rustic pendant]

just dont think its expansion since its worked perfectly before

[nova lake]

likely due to the config changes then

pretty much the only change this update that would effect that i believe

what walls are you going through? can your teammates also walk through?

[hasty wyvern]

I recall lethal expansion conflicting with other mods that affect map size which lead to people walking through walls on other people's screens

[nova lake]

Lethal expansion is the god of conflicts hahahaha

[timber basin]

It kinda just replaces everything without regard so yeah it just breaks everything

[hasty wyvern]

If I could chuck it out the window and keep my scrap mods you best believe I would 🤣

[bitter field]

How do I enable the Variety mod to work with custom maps?

or is it enately enabled

[nova lake]

Two ways

Firstly I believe the 'all' setting should enable them based on my understanding of lethallib

However, if that doesn't work/you want specific maps, you'll need to find the level identifiers for the modded moons and specify those in a comma split string

[bitter field]

ty

[nova lake]

Similar to the example in the configuration for vanilla moons, but with the modded moons level names

Also if you run into any issues let me know, though I expect there will be many

[eager peak]

Turrets shot me and my friends through a wall.

Entered main enterance on March

[rustic shuttle]

what's the config named? for some reason i cant find it

[eager peak]

launch the game for it to generate

[rustic shuttle]

do you think i haven't?

[nova lake]

In the entrance room?

Also what config settings are you on? The map shouldn't even spawn on march

[eager peak]

I have it set to all moons

[nova lake]

Ahh makes sense

But yeah was it the spawn room wall?

[nova lake]

Should just be scoopysvarietymod.cfg in bepinex/config

[eager peak]

solid brick hallway. turret was in another room (don't know what room it was)

in the main entrance there was a small room on the left with a turret in it. parallel to that room was a long hallway and the turret shot us thru the adjoining wall while we walked thru

hope that helps

one of my friends is drawing a map lol

[rustic shuttle]

oh i see, i'm dumb, i forgot to update it from extension to variety mod

[static girder]

scoopy it would be really helpful if you had an override for map size in the cfg

scpbdungeon has this now because the multipliers are hard to control even in vanilla

[nova lake]

damn thats a pain, but i will look into it

if you can identify the room the turret was in i can probably fix however

[eager peak]

had the details a little wrong -- the door was at the other end of the hallway the turret was in but this def was the configuration

@nova lake

[nova lake]

beautiful diagram

genuinely very helpful

[eager peak]

small amendment @nova lake for some reason the player who was on the ship insists he could not see this door on the monitor, but the two players in the facility say there definitely was a door here

either way this definitely was the configuration

[rustic shuttle]

the dungeon looks quite interesting with a high size multiplier

[slow hemlock]

bro in a Geogussr moon

[nova lake]

The lc sky box being that pic is still so funny to me lol

[shadow thorn]

Two issues with the mod I've seen, the Weezer guitar making you unable to interact with anything/when killed can be heard by the living, and slight issue with the dungeon layout, main entrance inside had a turret behind a wall and killed everyone when entering, died before we could locateit

[uneven walrus]

Made a copy of a log file to share a crash, how could I share it?

[nova lake]

feel free to send here or dm it to me on discord

[rustic pendant]

whats the best mods to use to test scrap spawn rate quickly like flying around the dungeon full bright idk

and what should i use to scrap multiply in the scoopy dungeon

[nova lake]

unityexplorer

and i dont know

[rustic pendant]

thank you

can i pretty much do anything as of testing with that

[nova lake]

if you know how to use it absolutely

but if you just want to freecam it can do that easily

if you can code you can hook and patch with it and everything

[rustic pendant]

unfortunantely can not code, but i will try figuring it out i suppose

[nova lake]

the freecam sounds like what you're looking for anyway

[rustic pendant]

pretty much i think

[uneven walrus]

I find it interesting that there's no tag on thunderstore or this discord for custom interiors

[nova lake]

Yeah I wish there was one

@fleet mural pls

[strong gust]

Hm with this new update, does that mean I can now have this be a potential option for say LE's Wateridge (or any other moons that would fit for this)

I'm thinking of memeing on my friends cause they wanted me to download the Mario 64 map for a moon, maybe I'll get this mod and put it in the ID list if possible to catch them off guard

[nova lake]

you can enable it to spawn there, but i cant promise that there wont be compatibility issues

but you do have the option now, yes

[strong gust]

Just to make sure, when you're referring to the internal names of custom moons, you mean by the names displayed here yes?

Matches up with the details when trying out secret labs moon with a SCP dungeon layout

[nova lake]

That should be it yep

If it works in SCP config it should work with mine

[pine iron]

Marking

[vagrant bison]

Was going to do some wateridge dungeon testing... but for some reason with these settings I can get the dungeon to appear on rend, but not on wateridge (tried a few times). Could be me being a goober tho

[nova lake]

Is that definitely the levelname for wateridge?

if possible try specifying the same level name with SCP and seeing if that works

if possible try it using 'all'

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/scoopy/Scoopys_Variety_Mod/ 0.5.1

slight fire exit change and weezer guitar is now one handed

to hopefully make it so if it desyncs it doesnt just brick the player and they can still do shit

[random token]

Where can I find the Mario 64 map?

Because it's not on thunderstore

[vagrant bison]

I'll try that rn. With all my mods the scp interior on vanilla and modded moons works

[vagrant bison]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Dafini/Dafis_Mega_Moon_Pack_Emporium/ part of this pack I think

[opaque void]

it's called peaches_castle

[random token]

BIg thanks❤️

Wait now you can just put in (for example)"OldSeaPort" and it will change the inside of any modded map?

as long as lethal expansion doesn't mess up

[vagrant bison]

So as opposed to wateridge where the interior just doesn't seem to load; setting the dungeon interior to be on the secret labs map it freezes on the seed generating screen (I can still move but the "seed: 313542646" and darker screen thing stays up) and it doesn't load, here's what I think the log error was.

[nova lake]

hmmmm

try putting a comma after the moon name

in the config

[vagrant bison]

madness

ok lol 1 min

I've been trained by my copious minecraft modding to never do that is all

Alright the scp interior doesn't work on wateridge either, the name may just not be OldSeaPort despite that being what it's called in the console

[timber basin]

yeah the name needs to be what the SelectableLevel asset is called in the mod

[vagrant bison]

Is there a way to figure out what that is?

[timber basin]

might be able to tell with either the source code, the decompile from thunderstore or asset exploring

[vagrant bison]

there's some references in the log that it's "oldseaport" is it case sensitive in the config? Because I've been putting in OldSeaPort

[barren schooner]

Does the all option include modded moons now?

Or still just vanilla

[nova lake]

may be case sensitive, i will fix that next patch, im kind of a dumbass

[nova lake]

config now allows you to enable modded moons, but likely will still be buggy/unplayable due to compat issues with lethalexpansion

should be no compat issues with lethallib moons when those... exist

[barren schooner]

Compat issues are on expansions end right?

[vagrant bison]

all good lol. I wonder also if that would be kinda funky also because clearly it loads the module with the capital letters, but then in the console it's all lowercase(?) ima try it with lowercase, then with the comma at the end

[nova lake]

actually i am hesitant to fix the case sensitive thing, turns out im not as much of a dumbass as i thought. i am not sure whether moon names will be converted to lowercase themselves

nevermind looks like lethallib does convert to lowercase

[vagrant bison]

so does case matter? lowercase with no comma doesn't load on wateridge tho

tryin wit da comma

[nova lake]

case does matter right now

and it should always be all lowercase it looks like

[vagrant bison]

alrighty so lowercase with and without comma still doesn't load for wateridge, big sad

[nova lake]

do you have bepinex console logger enabled?

[vagrant bison]

I don't think so

[nova lake]

also i think i was wrong about case sensitive? looks like lethallib handles it

[vagrant bison]

secret labs I do have as "Secret Labs" and it works

well, for the scp interior lol

[nova lake]

enable the console.log (or similar) in config/bepinex if you can

[timber basin]

yeah lethallib should handle it to make it case insensitive

[nova lake]

my mod will print out a quick log as the game launches saying what levels its been registered on

which may be helpful

[vagrant bison]

alrighty, which config setting is that exactly? lotta logging options here lol

[nova lake]

wait do you already have it enabled

you were sending console logs before lol

[vagrant bison]

oh, ye, lol

I could ctrl f something like "scoopy" to see if I can find what you're talking about?

[nova lake]

looks like this

right as the game launches

[nova lake]

not sure why it isnt registering then

at that point in the program ive given the names to lethallib to register

try loading in again see if an error pops up

otherwise id probably just write it off as another flavour of lethalexpansion incompatibility

[timber basin]

might just be that it has some esoteric SelectableLevel name

[nova lake]

that too

[timber basin]

does secret labs work?

that one is just "secret labs"

[vagrant bison]

secret labs got stuck on the seed generation screen for some reason

I'm gonna try it with kast to see if it's just wateridge bein wack

also gonna double check to make sure the scp interior still works on secret labs lmao because I haven't actually tried it since updating lethal expansion

[timber basin]

lethal expansion support for interiors seems to flipflop every update

[vagrant bison]

alright the scp interior still works with secret labs, but the dungeon doesn't spawn on kast ("Kast" with no comma at the end)

also no workie with "Kast,"

[nova lake]

hmm scp working with secret labs but mine not is concerning

[vagrant bison]

AAAAAAA ok so I figured I'd try another map to rule out if it was the dungeon interior or if the map names were just wrong, and I can't get the scp interior to spawn on Kast........ so idk if all these names (except exclusively for secret labs which doesn't work with the dungeon) are just wack or whats going on

Alright... I can't get the scp interior to work on Orion either. I presume this is either some wack lethal expansion thing or the true names of these levels really are esoteric

[thorny kelp]

Would've been nice if the moon mods creators just put the SelectableLevel name for their moon in the description lol

[soft panther]

Have there been issues with barely any scrap spawning?

[nova lake]

the scrap spawning issue is just a symptom of the large map size

because the map size is so large on large planets (i.e. paid planets, especailly titan) it seems like scrap spawns are scarse when the same amount of scrap is spawning but the map is just larger

im waiting on the next version of lethallib where i can adjust map size per level to change it rather than fix it myself only to switch to their method when it releases

[slow hemlock]

if you wanna hotfix it you can slide into DunGen.Generate Prefix and change the dungen size multiplier

[thorny kelp]

Yknow I actually just came to realize a possibility as to why the interior doesn't work on wateridge, it might've already been brought up but
Custom interiors don't work on march due to it having more than one fire exit right?
If so, then the case is the same for wateridge, as it has two fire exits

[neon narwhal]

The dungeon will spawn on march it will just lock 2 out of the 3 fire exits

[opaque void]

Yeah it says something like "The exit is blocked from the inside" iirc

[thorny kelp]

Ohhh okay I see

[neon narwhal]

Yup

[thorny kelp]

Thought it didn't load at all mb

[neon narwhal]

@thorny kelp more than likely it's just because when that map and many others where made new interiors where not on there mind

[fleet mural]

@nova lake Sorry, scrunkis. I ran out of tags in discord so moons/maps is the best you get

[neon narwhal]

And the tools are still new and not perfect yet

[nova lake]

not so worried about discord, more thunderstore tbh

moons maps is fine for discord imo

[thorny kelp]

Right I suppose that makes sense
I know secret labs seem to work fine so hopefully the other mods manage to fix that soon

[fleet mural]

The thunderstore is open source and you can submit a PR with new tags for lethal company if you want :3

[nova lake]

i did not know this

[neon narwhal]

You would probably need a mod that can identify moons and interiors and let you config them

Kind of like a list of items

[thorny kelp]

I don't think that would be necesarry since as I said secret labs works with the scp interior, they can identify each other perfectly fine despite being completely different mods made by different people
Each moon mod creator would probably just have to find out how to allow their moon to have their interior changed I guess
But I don't know jack about coding so eh

[crimson pilot]

the scp interior

works in solo

but not in multiplayer

only the host can enter it correctly if lethal expansion is installed

[thorny kelp]

Awhhh man

Didn't know that

Was hoping to run it with my friends later
Hadn't gotten to that point yet

[crimson pilot]

scp interior creator said if you use one of the older lethal expansion versions it might work

then someone else said that didnt even work

[thorny kelp]

Tragic

[nova lake]

also the fire exit thing will be fixed with the next version of lethallib courtesy of batby

so will be able to use the dungeon on march and will fix at least the fire exit problems with modded moons

[thorny kelp]

Sweet

[rancid python]

I got 1 issue with the dungeon is the map get really big in more dangerous moons and the longer i stay in the dungeon the bigger it impact on my performance probally too many props around each room

[steady elk]

question about this mod, how often are u able to get the dungeon on experimentation? is it still 50%? or is it 50% on the bigger maps like rend and titan?

Downloaded and installed it manually, and cant seem to get this mod to work, or im really unlucky and my RNG isnt good

[opaque void]

Did you change some values in the config? I put "all" moons into the list and a value of 200 instead of 300 and I get it quite often

[steady elk]

vanilla was the default value and I just left it as that, Ill try replacing it with all

yeah i mustve installed it wrong or its conflicting with something, im 0/6 on experimentation, at 300 value

[fleet linden]

how can i find the internal moon name of a moon ?

would this work

or will the all be a problem

[languid nexus]

If I understand how it works (no promises there), what you have is redundant, because the "all" should already be allowing it on any moon, even modded.

[fleet linden]

im unsure if all affects all moons

there should be a blacklist feature as well

so i can deny it spawning on secret labs

instead of having to manually set all

[vagrant bison]

I'd be curious to know if you are able get the dungeon interior to spawn on kast or orion, as I was unable to do so

[fleet linden]

i can try it in a bit

[rustic pendant]

Lmk too

[fleet linden]

yeah not working on Kast

i assume Kast has a different name

[strong gust]

Interesting, Kast's internal name is in fact: "Kast" so it should've worked

[fleet linden]

hmm

does it work on other moons ?

[strong gust]

I haven't been able to get it to work on any, the only modded moon that I know that's gotten SOMETHING to work with a dungeon mod is Secret Labs

[fleet linden]

yeah secret lab work for me with scp foundation

but its a different mod

ok its not working for me on desertmoon either

i dont think it supports modded moons propperly yet @slow hemlock

[dreamy harbor]

Would be there a possibility for a custom moon just for this dungeon?

Like something medievally themed

[strong gust]

Hmm I think it IS recognizing that oldseaport exists as a map but having trouble getting to place as the dungeon for this particular moon (I went in to test and it appears as the bunker layout)

That error did not appear when the map was a mansion layout

[uneven walrus]

I get that error often on vanilla moons

I dont have modded moons.

[strong gust]

Did it appear as a bunker instead or properly in place as the dungeon?

[uneven walrus]

If by bunker you mean facility layout iirc it was facility. But I've seen it multiple times and I've definitely gotten castle dungeon to load

I'd have to look at my logs to know exactly what happened but I recognize those error lines

[strong gust]

I'm just trying to find anything I can to figure what might be causing the layout to not couple with a modded map

[uneven walrus]

You're using lethal expansion it looks like

Lethal expansion conflicts with scoopys mod

[strong gust]

I'm already well aware

More specifically LE (which all modded moons except Ooblterra uses) conflicts with LethalLib (which every modded dungeon uses)

[uneven walrus]

Are you trying to fix the conflict?

[strong gust]

It's just strange cause Secret Labs is able to get the SCP Dungeon working, and that very same conflict exists

[uneven walrus]

I've heard people having issues of falling through floors and desync though in those cases

[strong gust]

Cause the only solution that I can think of at this point is just to wait til LE and LethalLib are fully compatible with one another

[uneven walrus]

You could make 2 mod profiles to play with one or the other

[languid nexus]

I wish custom moons didn't require Lethal Expansion.

[strong gust]

I mean I do too considering that for my cases, it typically is the thing that conflicts with other mods

[timber basin]

lethallib is getting custom moon support very soon

[languid nexus]

It's just dumb that Lethal expansion is a mod that adds things that you can't turn off, and it's also an SDK that is required to do things. The additions/changes should be separated into there own mod.

[timber basin]

and according to batby conversion from LE to lethallib is apparently fairly smooth

[languid nexus]

that's good to hear

[fleet linden]

another downside to custom moons are you cant use modded scrap

afaik

i only get vanilla scrap so mods like needy cat etc dont work

or chillax scrap

[timber basin]

that should be handled by lethallib as well, or at least be an option

[fleet linden]

thats good

[strong gust]

Most modded scrap mods are handled by LethalLib to my knowledge

[fleet linden]

ive had my fair share of annoyance with LethalExpansion the dev is amazing dont get me wrong but he is including so much unneeded things instead of seperating mods

causing a bunch of compatibility issues

[timber basin]

there are a few LE scrap mods like fumo company and probably a few others

[fleet linden]

chillax and cirno is Lib needycats too

[strong gust]

||Here's to hoping the like, one map mod I use for my group (ie Kast) switches to Lib||

[timber basin]

LE is neat especially for having a no code solution but yeah it just snaps any compatibility in half

[strong gust]

Ye, I was just hoping when I saw the feature that I could add the moon IDs that it could work with some custom ones. A lil sad that I was putting my hope in too soon for it to work but is a nice step for the future when it does finally work smoothly

||I also wanted to spook my friends cause they were begging me yesterday to put in the Mario 64 map in and I wanted to sneak in Scoopy's dungeon for the sake of a meme. Plus hey, I think it'd be a cool way to first showcase mods that add in custom dungeon layouts||

[timber basin]

dunno how scoopy does his but scp foundation does support just putting in any custom moon selectablelevel name

[strong gust]

Scoopy's one follows similar conventions, listing these as options:

• "all" for all moons (including modded)
• "vanilla" for the 8* vanilla moons (not March presumably due to the 3 fire exits)
• "paid" for Rend/Dine/Titan
• "<vanilla name>Level" (e.g. RendLevel) for specified vanilla ones
• the internal name (e.g. oldseaport for LE's Wateridge) for specified modded ones

Oh uh

Putting all actually DOES have it change wateridge, so perhaps I'm tying the internal name wrong

[fleet linden]

ive tried correct internal names

its not that

i tried two provided by map creators

ive tried in multiple combinations

Orion is orion

and E Gypt is desertmoon

[steady elk]

Anyone mind walking me through how to put this addon and its dependencies manually into the BEPINX folder properly? I've tried a couple different ways and cant seem to get it to work. Can do so in PMs if you like so we don't spam the channel. Never had an issue like this

[languid nexus]

any particular reason you don't want to use a mod manager?

[prisma copper]

Should be able to just throw everything extracted into the plugins folder

[steady elk]

I have so many launchers and mod things, just sick of using them is all

[languid nexus]

I understand that. Do you use R2modman for anything already?

it supports a bunch of unity games, like Risk of Rain 2 and Valheim. so you might already have it.

if not, then yeah, what anon said.

[steady elk]

I'm not at my pc atm, so i can't really see. But doesn't the addon come with a plugins folder and a patchers folder

Does the patcher folet contents go in the plugins folder? I stuck that stuff in the patcher folder i believe

[languid nexus]

here's what mine looks like. You can see the folder path at the top.

[opaque void]

Not sure if this issue is known yet but non-host player fall into the void when entering the facility on modded moons when "all" is put in the config

[strong gust]

SCP Dungeon one also has a similar issue

It's prob LE & LLib conflicting with one another

[nova lake]

Yeah this just means my dungeon didn't spawn

[nova lake]

My configuration is modelled after your implementation so should be basically the same for the molded moon stuff

[glass carbon]

I got wateridge to spawn scoopy's dungeon interior with the name "102 Wateridge"

[strong gust]

Oh? So it looks like it needs the name that's listed in the catalogue then

Try some of the other ones like "13 Kast" then

[timber basin]

If Lethal expansion makes the name of the selectable level just the catalogue name then yeah

[crimson pilot]

is there a reason this works with lethal expansion installed, but the scp dungeon doesnt?

[timber basin]

I think it's to do with how we handle fire exits slightly differently

At least for explaining the fire exit problem, any other issues this has but mine doesn't or vice versa I'm unaware of

[nova lake]

we should handle them the same now after my latest patch, i switched to vanilla method

[slow hemlock]

uhh badham might be doing some manual patching himself tho

[rustic pendant]

Turrets shooting through cylinder here

[crimson pilot]

so are you saying it also wont be compatible with lethal expansion

[hasty wyvern]

Offense has only 1 fire exit correct? I got the dungeon layout from this mod but when I tried to enter through the fire exit it told me it was blocked.

I might revert back to previous patch since I wasn't getting this error before.

[strong gust]

Offense has 1 fire exit yes

Curiously I just tried it with Kast and it has 2 Fire Exits and both of them worked fine for my case

But then when I tried for Experimentation, it didn't work 🤔

[hasty wyvern]

Maybe the fire exit patching for vanilla moons is bugging out

[nova lake]

wait so multiple people have had issues with fire exits not working?

even single?

[hasty wyvern]

I can confirm on offense with 1 fire exit it was giving me the blocked error when I tried to use fire exit

Apparently Violet had similar results with Experimentation's 1 fire exit as well but no issues on a modded moon with 2 fire exits

The issue seems to be related to the vanilla planets

The only other time I had this exact issue was using the scp dungeon mod but I no longer use that one.

[nova lake]

that generally means the fire exit didnt spawn

which is odd

ill try recreate

modlist would be a big help

[nova lake]

did you have lethalexpansion installed?

also if it happens again try get logs that would also be a huge help

[hasty wyvern]

I have LE core. I'm testing right now with it removed to see if it continues I know LE can be a nuisance already I'm just hoping it's not the case since I'd been running it prior with no problems

[nova lake]

does the fire exit consistently not work?

[hasty wyvern]

testing rn will update soon

[hasty wyvern]

Okay I have some results

So with LE, the first visit to both experimentation and offense had no issues both spawning the fire exit and allowing entry from the outside. However within the same session all subsequent visits and attempts to use the fire exit generated the door is blocked error.

This occured regardless of whether it was Exp. fire exit or Off. fire exit

[crimson pilot]

So Im assuming we cant play multiplayer on this interior anymore (with lethal expansion installed)

[nova lake]

any issues without LE?

[nova lake]

lethal expansion was never supported, always had some form of compatibility issues

[crimson pilot]

I had 0 issues with it before tho

[nova lake]

if prior versions of the mod were working with lethal expansion then id recommend just rolling back to an older version

[crimson pilot]

👍

[nova lake]

nothing i changed in my last update should affect lethal expansion whatsoever, i have no idea what would have really

but the gameplay experience hasnt changed significantly so downdating is probably your best bet

until we get lethallib custom moons

[crimson pilot]

Well I saw a bug report with the same issue the scp interior has with le installed

so looks like I will have to downgrade

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1192680070423253092

this is the report btw

[nova lake]

ty

[timber basin]

Yep identical thing happens with scp

[olive lynx]

Yeah thats been happening for a while (if not always) on this mod and the SCPDungeon

[hasty wyvern]

Yeah without LE it doesn't happen so I'm just gonna remove this for now. I'd never even touch LE if my scrap mods didn't need it

[nova lake]

its always LE lol

i need to put it in my mod description

[timber basin]

I'm guessing lethal expansion messes with the prop spawning in dungeon flows for some reason, hence why it's breaking now you switched to that

[nova lake]

yeah that sounds about right to me

[hasty wyvern]

I need more scrap mods to work off of LethalLib instead of LE

I get tired of finding the same cookie cutter trays you know?

[nova lake]

i honestly pretty much gave up on scrap development cause there were so many scrap mods

maybe i should get back into it if theyre all LE and incompatible with my mod anyway

[hasty wyvern]

There's like a handful of scrap mods that don't require LE with the VAST majority having it as a dependency

[nova lake]

can you send a link to your fav LE scrap mod?

i just want to have a look at it

[hasty wyvern]

I think we'd see a lot less people using LE if it wasn't baked into to so many modded scrap and moons requirements

Sure gimme a second

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/rainbow137/MinecraftScraps/

[nova lake]

do they like

do anything?

[hasty wyvern]

They don't have any functions just cute sounds really

[olive lynx]

I'm pretty sure I saw someone comparing how many scrap mods are using LethalLib vs LE and there were more on the LethalLib side

[nova lake]

a shame they use LE then, could definitely do the same with lethallib

but as far as my knowledge of LE goes it makes it very easy so that makes sense i guess

[timber basin]

Lethal expansion is definitely geared more towards generic scrap

[hasty wyvern]

I mean yes there are a ton of mods that add 1 or 2 items with lethal lib but the vast majority that add a whole pack full of items are LE dependent

I don't wanna have to download 20 mods to add 1 or 2 scrap a piece

[timber basin]

Afaik there's no scrap mods that add unique scrap (i.e. have special functionality) in LE

[nova lake]

ill add a bunch of scrap to my mod at some point

[nova lake]

some of the lethalthings stuff is pretty unique

isnt there like one that catches on fire or something

[timber basin]

Yeah forgot the note

In LE

[nova lake]

never played it only read the code lol

[slow hemlock]

i don't think you can with LE

i could be mistaken

[hasty wyvern]

Maxwell blows up around 10% of the time xD

[olive lynx]

Btw, remember the issue with the guitar not syncing? Now there is something wrong with my gift boxes and sometimes if you try to open them it doesnt and gets stuck in your hands. I know its caused by some mod that got updated today but since 15 more mods got updated (including this one) good luck to me trying to find the cause
Anyone else got that bug?

[languid nexus]

Since it's a castle dungeon theme, some medeival weapons would be pretty cool. The Fire Axe is great, but you could also add some weapons that fit the aesthetic of the dungeon

[strong gust]

Imagine adding in a wooden shield that can block up to 50 HP worth of damage for yourself and anyone behind you

[fleet linden]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/CHILLAX/ChillaxSCRAPS/ this is my favorite it actually does things lethal things has also interesting scrap stuff

one cool thing from this is a working death note f.example

[nova lake]

hahahaha what the fuck thats sick

lethallib too

very nice

[fleet linden]

yeah most of the scrap mods ive used relies on lethal lib

its more moons that relies on LE

[granite flicker]

I mean PintoBoy adds in a handheld minigame and only uses HookGenPatcher+LethalLib
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Pinta/PintoBoy/

[timber basin]

Hence "in LE", there's plenty of unique scrap mods for llib

[granite flicker]

aaah gotcha, I misread

[timber basin]

All g, and yeah afaik LE just doesn't have anything like llib

Pretty much all just generic scrap

[crimson pilot]

Just got rid of LE entirely from my mods..

a sacrifice Im willing to make

[nova lake]

hopefully once lethallib moon support is complete people port some over fairly quickly

[slow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/the-bear-tv-show-jeremy-allen-white-stirring-the-pot-gif-27412547

[nova lake]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-gordon-ramsay-disappointed-disappointed-giving-up-gordon-gif-24401182

[hasty wyvern]

Well if anyone finds a way to port the minecraft scrap into LethalLib I'll throw LE in the dump. 😞

I tried the chillaxscrap mod but I found the items just felt out of place for me. Maybe it's a personal preference but I didn't like them much.

[fleet linden]

You can disable any scrap you want in the mod and lower the weight spawn odds just put 0 weight for once you dont like and personally i wouldnt say minecraft scrap fits either didnt they even have a minecraft bee entity as a scrap

[hasty wyvern]

Well I'm more than versed in messing with the configs. The real problem was that I didn't particularly like any any of the items at all so I don't see a point in adding it just to disable all of them lol. I do agree the minecraft ones don't exactly fit per say but they were nicely made and didn't feel like a bunch of random memes slapped together I guess.

When I play games I prefer less stuff in said game to remind me of irl memes and current events I suppose.

It's not a big deal I'll simply do without 👍

[granite flicker]

I've also disabled this mod since I kept running into a lot of desync issues when playing with friends. Shame since some of them were funny but it seemed to mess with my game a lot

I'm also waiting for the LE moons to be ported over to LethalLib since LE is just too volatile and bloated with features

[hasty wyvern]

That's likely cause they perform functions outside of being scrap as well. More code is running so to speak. Personally I don't see the point in having scrap do too much crazy stuff when I'm just gonna wind up selling it to ole Jeb at the end of quota. 😅

[rotund root]

Its personal preference at the end of the day, I can see both sides

I like chillax personally because its fun being able to troll friends and whatnot w it and all of us having a laugh
(it can also kill entities if you know how to maneuver around it)
but yknow, simultaneously i see why some peeps wouldn't fuck w it

in reference to the death note as being the same example for me, to clarify

[rustic pendant]

so me and my group all have scoopys downloaded and we landed on titan. We were experiencing a desync issue with the normal dungeon where me and my friend Rowan were walking through walls for my friend Tyler. And vice versa for other pov. Is this probbaly lethal expansion and scoops conflicting even though the dungeon was not the scoops dungeon?

[rotund root]

it most definitely is

at least i'd say so

[rustic pendant]

ugh

[rotund root]

considering scoops doesnt run through lethal expansion anymore

[rustic pendant]

It’s so random it only started now

And we have had the mod for so long

[rotund root]

yeah the update they dropped yesterday stops it from running through expansion now

cause LE is super bloated and honestly

kind of a bleh SDK mod

imo

[rustic pendant]

scoopys ran on expansion?

I thought it didn’t and that was the problem

[rotund root]

It did before yeah

until recently

but now it runs through LethalLib/HookGenPatcher

and LL/HGP conflict with LE hard

[rustic pendant]

so technically if I wanted both, I could downgrade scoopy

[rotund root]

I mean, I guess, but honestly i can only see issues for stuff if you try running both
ik my group ran into a LOT of difficulties when we ran both cause we were testing out Orion/Aquatis

LL/HGP is just superior imho, and a lot of mods are transferring their stuff over to it

from what I can gather

[rustic pendant]

Yeah for sure. Just my team never had desync issues up until today

And we love Orion and other LE maps

[rotund root]

For sure, I can understand that

I think the planet mods are pretty cool but i like the dungeon mods a bit more since it changes the interior

[rustic pendant]

Me too. My teammates on the other hand

No

Unfortunately

[rotund root]

I can understand

[rustic pendant]

They actually get mad when we get scoopys dungeon cuz they feel it’s hard to find scrap

[rotund root]

Hmmmm, honestly it feels the same like any other interior imo, cause the same can happen on mansion and factory

it just depends on the rng

The dungeon mods are actually kinda cool because they ACTUALLY INTEGRATE SCRAP MODS
which god i love, its epic being able to find the scrap mods

that I add for my guys

[rustic pendant]

Yes very cool

[rotund root]

vs Orion and Aquatis i couldn't find anything added to my mod list other than like, the mimic mod and stuff

it just generated the normal game scrap

[rustic pendant]

You know, I wonder if coomfy dungeon is causing the desync and not LE and scoopy

[rotund root]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, its a possibility

[rustic pendant]

I’ve had problems with coomfy in the past

[rotund root]

Do you usually play in a super big group for it

[slow hemlock]

what kinda desync

[rustic pendant]

Like 6 people most

But we only had 4 today

And got the desync

[rustic pendant]

Walking through walls for teammates

Entering dungeon and just falling in void

Even tho it’s not scoopy dungeon it’s the normal one

[rotund root]

I see

I usually play with around like 5-8 and feel like sometimes the facility is huge but huh
this mod is kinda cool.
Although considering what im seeing i probably am not gonna add it, as uh
performance issues in my group occur and i can forsee that LOL
thats just me yapping though.

[slow thunder]

How much damage does the axe really do?

Damage testing on my friend was not a wise idea

[nova lake]

no, it always ran on lethallib

my mod has never run on lethalexpansion

[nova lake]

ensure everyone has identical configs, otherwises likely lethal expansion conflict

[austere wraith]

Not sure where to throw this - both with Scoopy's mod and with SCP Dungeon Interior mod, neither of them generate a config file? Iiuc these should allow me to set which moons these interiors can spawn in, so i'm not sure if i'm doing something wrong here or if it works in a different way than i understand

[sleek sun]

Open the game first

With the mods downloaded

[fleet linden]

the config right now is a bit misleading for modded moons recommend fixing this
tell them they have to add the names from the terminal manually all does not work

[sleek sun]

Then reopen your launcher

Oh

Wait

[austere wraith]

i tried, didn't work though

[sleek sun]

Hmm

Usually config files load after opening the game and a save once

Just gotta reopen r2

That's weird tho

I haven't had this issue yet so I can't help much more past that

[fleet linden]

try landing the ship

then close game

some configs dont update until you load a level

[rustic pendant]

What I thought lol

[rustic pendant]

Okay

[rotund root]

Huh. I thought it did, my bad
Maybe im confusing it for another one and just had it mixed up

[strong gust]

Regarding modded levels, most of the ones being made rn are moons which all modded ones (except Ooblterra) all use LE

There's 3 dungeon generations currently available, and more to come, and all seem to run on LethalLib

[rotund root]

Yee, a majority of the moons do get ran through LE
i think I just got something mixed up in my thinking when i was going through it
(It was also pretty late and brain big tired)

[rustic pendant]

SCP, scoopy, and what else?

[strong gust]

Ooblterra, technically not fully released but is available to test out thru getting it on Github

Ooblterra includes both a moon with its own unique dungeon generation

[fleet linden]

the bugs only happen on maps with multiple fire exits

i think

where you fall through the levels

[mortal jacinth]

Hadal labs just got started too, so soon we'll have a water-themed one

[fleet linden]

@slow hemlock save us

[rustic pendant]

What maps have multiple fire exits

March

Uh

[mortal jacinth]

Just march

[rustic pendant]

Yea

[mortal jacinth]

March has 3, every other has 1 or less

[fleet linden]

secret labs has 3

or more

i was more thinking of modded moons

[mortal jacinth]

(I was talkin abt vanilla but yea)

[fleet linden]

well vanilla dont have issues

the mod already exclude March

[mortal jacinth]

March does, thats why its hard coded to not show up

[fleet linden]

yeah i know i just said that its excluded

the issues happens with modded moons

[strong gust]

Yeah March is the only vanilla one with multiple for some reason

[fleet linden]

where people fall through because of multiple fire exit

[mortal jacinth]

Its also got a huge dungeon gen multiplier and its really funny

[mortal jacinth]

Wack

[strong gust]

Yeah I'm aware, it's the 2nd biggest dungeon map in the vanilla game

First of course being Titan

[mortal jacinth]

Scplabs on march is hell bc its so big and its got realitively little stuff compared to titan

[hallow ibex]

so uh I got shot through a stairwell pillar

[rustic pendant]

Me too

[leaden yarrow]

Yeah! Me too lol

[devout ravine]

Hello! Don't know if this has been reported before, but playing it on multiplayer my friend consistently falls through the map after going inside, and endlessly falls into the void.

[devout ravine]

OH is this why?

[fleet linden]

there might be other things causing it but mainly this yes

[devout ravine]

interesting, any news on fixing it?

[rustic pendant]

I’m in the same boat

[fleet linden]

IamBatby is working on something to fix this issue yes

[dreamy harbor]

yeah since the new update its happening to us too

[rustic pendant]

New LE update or the new scoopy update

[mortal jacinth]

its a LE thing

[dreamy harbor]

We updated both i think

LE thing again?

[mortal jacinth]

always is

[rustic pendant]

gotta downgrade LE then

[mortal jacinth]

i kid, but theres a version of LE that works better with scoopy's. idk which one (because i wont touch that mod with a 10 foot pole anymore) but its fairly recent, in terms of each update to LE.

[mortal jacinth]

yee

[olive lynx]

LethalExpansion 1.3.8 should work with custom interiors but only on vanilla moons and the fire exits can be wacky after visiting the moon for the first time

So you can have modded interiors on vanilla moons and vanilla interiors on modded moons and its mostly playable but not both things at the same time afaik

[barren schooner]

Are any modded moons made that do work with modded interiors?

Or made with lethal lib

[olive lynx]

Not yet. LethalLib will support custom moons but it's not out yet I think

[barren schooner]

Damn

Hopefully lethal expansion at some point fixes their stuff

Cause it's hard to balance modded moons and the modded interiors

[fleet linden]

orion did this as well

same with Secret Lab

[rustic pendant]

but it didn’t work 😭

[fleet linden]

havent tested it in multiplayer yet so idk

you might have a different issue

i dont see why it wouldnt work

[rustic pendant]

Either I need to delete my scoopy config and let it redownload

Or downgrade LE

or downgrade scoopy

Or get rid of coomfy

[crimson pilot]

Ah yes, I LOVE it when turrets can see through WALLS

[hallow ibex]

yup

So turrets can very much still shoot through walls

[silver stirrup]

You panicked and went into the room with the turret 😅

[hallow ibex]

oh damn I did

I might be a bit stupid

[fleet linden]

lmao

[hallow ibex]

how the hell did I not notice that before

[crimson pilot]

i dont believe he did

they can literally see and shoot through walls

[silver stirrup]

He walks beside the coffin in the room, the turret's in the opposite corner

[opaque void]

he very much did, just looking at the coffin confirms it

[crimson pilot]

idk

from my experience they can see and shoot through walls

[silver stirrup]

Yeah they absolutely do don't get me wrong, it's a massive problem right now but that clip isn't what we're facing, the other clip is though

[west gull]

yo whatup

so imma be honest I am a config goblin and love configuration files

Its pretty nice you can change the rarity of the dungeon and what planets it applies but it would be nicer if the config allowed for specific chances per planet so I can have it be a 50% chance on titan, 25% on rend, 10% on offense etc and it would be even better if you could balance the chances of dungeon, library, and factory by moon

[slow hemlock]

In terms of Turrets, what you see isn’t what you get. Most vanilla (and scoopys) rooms have manual colliders that they are likely using. We can look into changing vanilla to make them more consistent in the future

[slow hemlock]

Your gonna fucking love my new stuff then

[hallow ibex]

yeah my first clip definitly shows me getting shot through a stone pillar. that second clip was uh not me at my smartest lmao

[slow hemlock]

soons

[west gull]

your mods?

[slow hemlock]

lethallevelloader/lethallib

upcoming custom dungeon/moon intergration

[west gull]

ahh I see

nice

[opaque void]

Finally getting rid of mod-breaker 2000 (also known as lethal expansion) 😍

[slow hemlock]

this will be nice for everyone looking to tweak dungeon size

eg. if the level dungeon size is bigger than the max you set, you can scale it between the level dungeon size value and the max dungeon size value based on a 0-1 value

[upbeat wasp]

Hey guys

I have no clue what this means but I keep getting this error, and I'm not seeing dungeons either

ive been trying to find the dungeons in worlds for about an hour now and had no luck.

(i havent gone to march)

[west gull]

idk it if mostly in my head but these doors are heavy af

they shove me so bad

[zenith vessel]

Why does the interaction hand look so scuffed in this mod? 😅

[west gull]

wait yeah what I just noticed that

[fleet linden]

this isnt a sdk level creator though right ?

[slow hemlock]

no, why

[fleet linden]

so people still need to make levels in LE ?

[slow hemlock]

no

[fleet linden]

if they dont know how to do all the hard stuff with lib

[slow hemlock]

if you want to tweak your settings in editor you just need to put the dll in unity so you can make the 1 or 2 scriptableobjects

thats it

[fleet linden]

oh

are you close to be able to release this ?

[slow hemlock]

Yes.

[fleet linden]

ooo

does anyone know if its posible to make LethalThings work in LethalExpansion levels ?

i cant seem to figure it out i even tried remaking modpack with just those mods to see if anything else was breaking it but some people are able to do it ?

[zenith vessel]

LethalThings only spawn in interiors. I'm not aware of LE interior mods.

[fleet linden]

LE is for modded moons outside exteriors

[west gull]

what is Le in this case

[fleet linden]

LethalExpansion

[zenith vessel]

Yes, exactly.

[fleet linden]

how come its not working for me then on any interior

other than vanilla

[west gull]

what is supposed to be different?

[fleet linden]

everything works in vanilla moons but i cant get lethalthings to work on any LE planet

f.example scrap from LethalThings should be able to spawn

boomba mob

teleporter traps

[west gull]

yeah that works for me on the dungeon interior no issue

[fleet linden]

on a modded moon ?

i dont mean in scoopy variety mod

i just mean on a modded moon

[west gull]

no I'm not using any modded moons

[zenith vessel]

Maybe something to do with moons having custom chances for enemies.

[fleet linden]

i want it to work on modded moons spefically

[west gull]

Why are you asking in the channel for scoopy variety then?

[fleet linden]

since people here prob ran into the same issue and might know

the dev said he has seen the opposite where it does work

im trying to figure out how to do that

[slow hemlock]

are these stuff meant to be in dungeons on custom moons or like the moon itself

[zenith vessel]

You didn't mention custom moons back then.

[fleet linden]

just inside dungeons

LE = LE

you use LE for custom moons

i edited the text to say LethalExpansion instead of just LE

but what else would i use LethalExpansion for other than modded levels

maxwell scrap for example only spawn in vanilla moons, boomba inside enemy roomba thingy never spawns on modded moons, teleporter traps dont spawn inside modded levels

@slow hemlock is what i mean to be exact

its not to do with any interior mods

but some people are able to use LethalThings with LethalExpansion but working somehow

maybe i have to downgrade the version or something

[slow hemlock]

yeahh

[nova lake]

Turret shooting through pillar should be fixed now, if you have seen turrets shoot through other walls I'd love to hear from you

[slow hemlock]

getting that to work can be a little finnicky

[nova lake]

I'll patch soon

[slow hemlock]

it wont be on release but scrap will prob have the same kinda tag thing i have for Dungeon <=> Moon stuff so scrap devs can dynamically inject their scrap into whatevs content

[nova lake]

Might also chuck in batbys fire exit patch so we can see how that works with march and modded moons

[slow hemlock]

uh yeahh show me that before you send it

i might need to change 1 or 2 things

[nova lake]

Alr lol

[nova lake]

does anyone have any other places turrets have shot through other than the spiral staircase column?

[neon narwhal]

nope

[hallow ibex]

Haven't had it happen anywhere else so far

[rotund mortar]

Was there an SDK you used or made while developing this dungeon? It's awesome :o
or any tutorials that may point me in the direction of making something like this?

[nova lake]

i made models in blender, imported to unity and assembled in unity editor

and the actual code is written using c# and .net framework in visual studio, but thats basically just interfacing with lethallib

so if you can create 3d models, learn some basic unity (i had never used a game engine before this project) and have a basic understanding of programming you could make something similar

i didnt follow any specfic tutorials just googled or chatgptd stuff when i ran into a wall

http://www.aegongames.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/DunGen_Readme.pdf also this is helpful for understanding how dungen works

[rotund root]

This goes hard

[rotund mortar]

awesome

got some devious dunGen plans

if you get it, you get it

[nova lake]

ohhh thats a fucking great idea, why didnt i think of that

[rotund mortar]

wanna work togeether? 👀

[nova lake]

well good news is you get to skip the modelling step

id be happy to help out

[rotund mortar]

except for custom stairs

[nova lake]

halo usually uses ramps right?

could just use those

[rotund mortar]

unless to increeaseee the mazee-like layout, this will bee the only way to go up a floor lmao

[nova lake]

lol

[rotund mortar]

my e keey is glitching and im gonna ignore it idc

[nova lake]

lets dm about it to not spam this chat, but id definitely be keen to help out

[rotund mortar]

the same room, one has a ramp xd

[fleet linden]

@nova lake

😦

[nova lake]

looks like desync issue caused by configs/lethalexpansion

since one sees vanilla interior and one sees mine

[fleet linden]

exactly what it is

the host can enter the level and play it fine

but the 2nd player is in the original level

causing him to just falling in a infinite loop

into the teleport trigger that sends you to main enterance

[hallow ibex]

I've had this before. In my case it was caused by non matching configs

[fleet linden]

this will happen to anyone using LethalExpansion and Scoopy variety mod combined this is on the modded moon Aquatis on a lan server running 2 clients

[hallow ibex]

yikes

haven't tried scoopys with any modded moons with lethal expansion

[fleet linden]

yeah you shouldnt its not going to work

[bitter field]

People are falling into the world

Someone in my session just fell through

idk where he fell buts hes bouncing under the map

0 death floor

front entrance

[fleet linden]

you cant use the mod on custom moons

[bitter field]

it somehow spawned on march

We had it on a free moon

[fleet linden]

March is broken too

due to the multiple fire exits

[mental jungle]

Is there a way to imcrease brightness, i cant even enjoy the map, even with a flashlight when everything is pitch black. Cant appreciate, the details that went into it,as,well

[olive lynx]

Yeah, on the setting of the game

[mental jungle]

wdym

oh u mean in game

yea but that would also increase the facilities brightness to then

Or it would be nice if there was a setting to spawn more torches on map

[bronze prairie]

holy mother of goated

[rotund mortar]

?

[bronze prairie]

youre making the flood facility a dungeon, yes?

[rotund mortar]

sepeerating the rooms

[languid nexus]

I have set the Fire Axe to 300 and still have not seen it once through 7 moon landings

is this just bad luck?

another 5 moon landings without the fire axe. I left the guitar at 5, and I have actually found it twice.

[languid nexus]

ran into an invisible wall here. I walked around it. It think it was another one of the square pillars that spawns in that room, but was just invisible. for some reason.

[nova lake]

only spawns on paid moons

[silver stirrup]

Still reading messages from last night but the stone archways leading into rooms, I've snuck to the side of them to block LoS and still got gunned down

[jade niche]

so err, what moons does this spawn on? or is it universal and just a low chance

i've tried a paid moon but i havent seen the dungeons ye t

[mental jungle]

is there a way to know before hand if it is going to be scoopy dungeon

so I can bring a flashlight

[crimson pilot]

no

[olive lynx]

Maybe in the console but with the amount of spam it happens I have never checked thoroughly

Another way I can imagine would be using mods to send radar boosters on the inverse teleporter as probes (i love to do that)

[mental jungle]

oh ok

[runic solar]

@nova lake why this Extension comes so often ? can i make it to 5% spawnrate or more or less ? If this works how ?

[runic solar]

is it possilbe to make it with the explorer

[zenith vessel]

Possible. But better to use a mod manager.

Makes it easier for everyone.

[runic solar]

i dont have the manager

[crimson pilot]

You should get it

[zenith vessel]

r2modman

[runic solar]

what is with the thunderstore manager

[zenith vessel]

same thing, but with ads and works through overwolf

[runic solar]

ok

[crimson pilot]

r2modman has ads?

[zenith vessel]

no

[crimson pilot]

oh wait

nvm

misread

[jade niche]

how do you do this

[crimson pilot]

in ur mod manager go to the config editor

then find this mod

[jade niche]

i dont have mod manager

[timber basin]

Configs are in Lethal Company/bepinex/config

[runic solar]

how do i do this

[timber basin]

If you're not using a manager

[jade niche]

i see

thank you

err how do i open the config

[crimson pilot]

I think you can get lethalconfig to edit configs from in game

[jade niche]

not sure how to open a .cfg

[crimson pilot]

notepad

[jade niche]

was thinking that

i not seeing the config

[crimson pilot]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1192526476348772402

maybe just download this mod

[sick relic]

Yeah but then u gotta restart after editing

[sick relic]

When using that mod

[crimson pilot]

you have to do that with a mod manager anyways

if ur running the game already that is

[runic solar]

how i can make the spawnrate more or less in thunderstore mod manager

[mental jungle]

does this mod have the apperatus?

[crimson pilot]

no

[runic solar]

@crimson pilot how do you find this

can you give me a short tutorial

[crimson pilot]

that specific menu is part of the config editor in the r2modman mod manager

[runic solar]

is it not possilbe to do it at the thunderstrom manager

[crimson pilot]

it is

go to the config editor

[runic solar]

this one

[crimson pilot]

yea

then open this one

[hallow totem]

Does this mod conflict with any knowing mods?

[crimson pilot]

lethal expansion

[hallow totem]

Damn

[runic solar]

there is nothing

[crimson pilot]

start your game and load a save (with the mod installed in the mod manager)

then check again

[west gull]

how many rooms are there in the dungeon compared to the library and factory, anybody kept track?

[runic solar]

thanks

[crimson pilot]

you will have to restart your game for any config changes to take effect

[runic solar]

ok

[west gull]

Would this be 10%?

or is it like a pool of chance and the higher the number the more chances it has in the pool

[sleek sun]

Do you guys know if thisll work with the backrooms mod? Ill prob get to testing it myself but I just want to check if anyones used it

[west gull]

I actually was just on a planet with the dungeon and went to the backrooms for testing, it didn't seem off

[sleek sun]

Alr alr cool!

[west gull]

should test if it works in the building too

[rustic pendant]

How does one do this

[olive lynx]

Sending the radar boosters? You can send them and retrieve them with
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/MrHydralisk/EnhancedRadarBooster/

And you can remove the initial cooldown of the inverse teleporter with
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/PortableNavi/BetterInverseTeleporter/

Btw, I checked the console and you can indeed see when the castle interior spawned by reading it on the log

[rustic pendant]

thank you

[jade estuary]

Backrooms is definitely compatible :)

Well I mean… I’ve played with them both for a while and never seen issues

[floral bloom]

a while back I heard there was some weird incompats between this and lethalexpansion
anybody know if this is fixed?

[jade estuary]

The incompatibilities aren’t really with LethalExpansion, the dungeon just can’t spawn on moons that don’t give it enough space IIRC so as long as you configure it to vanilla moons instead of All it’ll work perfectly

If you don’t do that it’s hit or miss whether it’ll work on a given moon, sometimes it generates perfectly, but on most modded moons usually the host can do everything perfectly but everyone else falls through the ground to their death after entering

@floral bloom

[floral bloom]

I was told it caused some desync and other issues

[jade estuary]

At least in my experience, the only desync we’ve had is the situation I described

On the non host player’s screens it’ll show them a random dungeon layout from vanilla with no meshes

so they just fall through the ground but it’s only on the actual modded moons

And I’ve been playing with both since this one became public

[slow hemlock]

yeah that sounds like an LE issue ngl

[jade estuary]

It works on some LE moons 🤷‍♀️ where does the dungeon actually spawn in relation to a moon? Is it its own environment or is it somewhere different in the same world as the moon

Because it’s weirdly a moon by moon issue, if it happens once on a moon it always will but even in a single pack it’ll work on some and break on others

[runic solar]

if i have the Variety mod why i the mod Mimic dont work at the normal dungon ?

[slow hemlock]

somewhere on the moon but the issue is not that its wrong it's that its inconsistent between host and client

[jade estuary]

Huh. I hope someone smarter than me can eventually get to the bottom of it but until then I’ll just keep this one configured to vanilla and when it can be done moon by moon just test it

I’ll provide a list of incompatible modded moons here as well

[slow hemlock]

well its gonna be everything but oob becuase its an LE issue

[jade estuary]

I promise it’s not though, I have successfully played this on several moons from Daffy’s Emporium. Whatever causes it is moon by moon I am 99% sure. I’ve played like 40 hours with both mods and we almost never go to the vanilla moons anymore

[slow hemlock]

I can't think of anything moons would be doing to create dungeon de-sync like that

[floral bloom]

I also forgot it’s not this mods issue

It’s the lib

[jade estuary]

But anyway, for right now, I think you’re good to download it if you just set the configuration to exclude modded ones, definitely not worth missing out on this dungeon type just bc it can’t spawn everywhere, it’s super well made

[golden hill]

Not sure if posted already as it seems you can't search in threads(?) but Brackens can't open doors

[silver stirrup]

@nova lake Hate to ping but I think i'm the only person to raise this, the lockpicker positioning on doors is weird, and it resulted in my poor lockpicker being lost to the void :(

[bronze prairie]

i think youre one of the maybe dozen people that use the lockpicker lol

but yeah that's bizarre

[silver stirrup]

Yeah fortunately i've been playing with a couple mods that really make it an interesting item, Mikestweaks i've made it weigh 4lbs, and lockpicker enhanced brings the time down to 10s AND you can lock doors with it, meaning it's a viable way of locking up creatures to eat into the level's power cap or counter Jesters/Coilheads by locking them in dead ends

[bronze prairie]

wow lockpicker but an item you would actually want to buy???

[rustic shuttle]

what mods did you use to do this?

[woeful pollen]

man if only they mentioned the names of the mods somewhere in their message

[silver stirrup]

Yeah it was Mikestweaks and EnhancedLockpicker, bit of fiddling needed with configs using Mikestweaks though, thankfully there's options to completely ignore a lot of what the mod adds

[rustic shuttle]

[west gull]

not an issue sorta but can you make the doors less collidy while being opened? I feel like the vanilla ones either don't have collision while swinging or its smaller, the doors in the dungeon just send me flying

[crimson pilot]

i think vanilla doors are just really thin

[west gull]

maybe, I can open them into me while against them and I barely get moved

[west gull]

anyone else feel the dungeon has less scrap then a facility on the same planet? It looks to only be about 4/7 of the amount but it could just be me

[timber basin]

The range of scrap spawned can vary quite significantly; check the wiki and if the scrap count is outside the specified bounds then there might be a problem, otherwise it might just be luck

[west gull]

so I was just unluckly to only get 205 on experimentation?

[timber basin]

the minimum scrap that can spawn on Exp is 8, so it's possible

with 8 scrap valued 205 total each item roughly equates to 25 value each, which checks out

[wraith meteor]

Jester go through locked doors with death mode

[keen socket]

sorry first time asking here

is masked bug in this map ?

i lure masked in

but can't really see he able to get out

[worldly lotus]

I really love this dungeon but its performance impact is huge. Maybe in the future you could add an option to configure the textures quality or something like that. Or you see what you can do to improve performance in any other way. Me and my friends all have fps issues in there.

[chrome crater]

literally mentioned on the issue tracker of LE https://github.com/HolographicWings/LethalExpansion/issues/60

[jade estuary]

👍

[granite flicker]

What are our thoughts on LethalLevlLoader? It's based on LethalLib and seems to want to make custom moons and dungeons compatible

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/IAmBatby/LethalLevelLoader/

Seems like it could help this mod though unsur

[opaque void]

That mod is actually our saviour, modders have been waiting for it since LE breaks a lot of shit. Its inital commit was yesterday so its pretty fresh on the market

[granite flicker]

yeah I'm looking forward to the migration of custom moons away from LE. LE was a fantastic proof of concept but the feature list there is getting too long

I do worry about certain moons being dependent on the content from LE's SDK though

[shrewd willow]

My friend sees the normal map when I see the dungeon.

and he falls through the map

my first time using the mod and on the modded moon wateridge

but ive seen it work with others before

am I missing a mod or somnethin>?

[granite flicker]

no LE and custom dungeon interiors are just wildly inconsistent with their compatibility until LE fixes itself

https://github.com/HolographicWings/LethalExpansion/issues/60

For now it's basically agreed that the two don't play nice with each other in multiplayer

[shrewd willow]

good to know

so basically cant use this if I want to use custom moons that require expansion until its fixed?

[granite flicker]

if you're in solo play maaaaaaaybe they could work together? multiplayer is asking for trouble since LE loads dungeon gen client side which causes everyone's dungeon to be different and makes everyone but host fall through the floor

[shrewd willow]

could lethal level loader fix anything or no?

[granite flicker]

it just came out three hours ago so no clue yet, we'd need to wait for scoopy and other level/ dungeon creators to tell us

[nova lake]

it will

kind of

[timber basin]

LLL is made to be the answer to Lethal lib custom moon support

[nova lake]

it wont fix LE compatibility, but any moons added via LLL should be compatible (is the goal, fairly untested atm)

i am in the process of switching to LLL right now, also comes with some fun benefits like fixing multiple fire exits and more customisable generation

[timber basin]

I'll be moving SCP over to it after finishing 914, and from what I've seen is much less error prone than le

[granite flicker]

awesome. genuinely looking forward to it!

[slow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/wallace-and-gromit-wallace-gromit-train-tracks-gif-8865867

[nova lake]

i also believe some moon creators are switching over so

[granite flicker]

dungeon gen is one thing, but how hard would it be to port over LE custom moons to LLL you think?

[shrewd willow]

does it still work on vanilla moons?

[granite flicker]

since LE moons might use custom assets

[shrewd willow]

or does le still break it

[slow hemlock]

As of current release pretty annoying, But that is because LLL is a lot less / if at all handholdy on how the content in the level is setup

This will improve drasticly after the tutorial level and documentation are out the door

[chrome crater]

LE has always caused so many issues :c

[granite flicker]

understandable. Appreciate the work you're doing though seriously I can't imagine how hard it is to migrate over existing content to a new system like this

[slow hemlock]

It's not that bad in all honesty, Once you know what your doing

The issue is that as of right now that includes just me

[woeful pollen]

the biggest hurdle of switching from LE to LLib or LLL is coding knowledge, from what i've heard

[slow hemlock]

na

for LLL you don't need any code

[woeful pollen]

oh, that's awesome

point still stands for scrap mods, though

[slow hemlock]

For now 🤠

[timber basin]

Just having LE present breaks stuff, since it heavily changes how moons are loaded which is incompatible with custom dungeons

[granite flicker]

LE does way too much for being essentially an SDK yeah

causes most mods to trip over a lot of its features or just cause errors up the butthole

[chrome crater]

is this still the case for LEC cuz i use it for some custom scrap items

[timber basin]

I think the LECore Dev was trying to improve compatibility, haven't done any testing myself so YMMV

[nimble ferry]

was messing around with it tonight a little bit, on vanilla moons i was able to enter fire exits everytime (again in my very very limited testing) whereas before i would consistently get the error that the exit was blocked. haven't tested on modded moons yet as im gonna wait for some friends to see if they still fall through the map when a custom interior loads.

[rare olive]

This is a cool mod, however I find that the amount of loot and enemies are little for the size of the rooms? Is there any way to change this in config?

[nova lake]

will be able to change map size multiplier in config soon which should address this

[knotty harness]

The map is cool, but has three problems. Not enough enemies and scrap. And enemies like the thumper getting stuck in coffins. Frame drops also occur while looking in certain areas and directions. Will these issues be ironed out in future updates?

[keen socket]

Hi guys is it normal that masked enemy unable to exit the scoopys dungeon?

[crimson pilot]

normal? maybe. Intended? no

[static girder]

this is a problem given that you mentioned the dungeon can become too big on titan

i put it only on unpaid moons to avoid the gen being too big.

😐

[crimson pilot]

I dont think fireaxes need to spawn in the castle dungeon

they just need to be in a paid moon

[nova lake]

this is referring to fire axes

they can spawn on any interior

[static girder]

ahhh

[hard carbon]

Is it possible to have a version that only adds guitar and axe?

[crimson pilot]

well you can use this mod for the time being and just not set the interior to any maps

so the dungeon wont spawn

[nova lake]

set dungeon rarity to 0

[floral bloom]

So is it basically don’t run LE + custom dungeons together even if you see it so the dungeons can’t spawn on the moons

[worldly lotus]

Issue: spray paint doesnt work on doors, walls or floor. Are you planning on fixing this?

[acoustic cloak]

How much stronger is the axe than the shovel? 2x? 3x? It feels like 3x

[west gull]

can you one shot hoarding bugs with it?

they take 3 hits so if you an one shot them then its 3x

[acoustic cloak]

I think it one shots hoarding bugs at the very least

So yeah it's at least 3x damage

one of my friends claims it one shot the bracken but I am pretty sure my other friend hit it at the same time with a shovel

[west gull]

THIS IS SO SAD

Why can't they pick up the weezer guitar ;-;

[mint sigil]

The shovel deals 1 damage. The fireaxe deals 4 damage, so it's x4

[west gull]

why isn't the axe listed?

[acoustic cloak]

holy shit, hell yeah

[strong gust]

lmao so that means it sends a Nutcracker straight into hyper mode

Least it's possible to hit it twice in a rotation before it becomes difficult to handle

[west gull]

in that case then masked can be one shot

[west gull]

@nova lake This is horrible please fix 🥺
I need my little weezer bug army

[strong gust]

Imagine

Bugs with a bunch of different musical instrument scrap and one holding a boombox playing music

[west gull]

yeah it can happen I just had like 30 run around with rubber chickens and it sounded awful

[zenith vessel]

It can only happen with mods.

[west gull]

yes symbiosis

[zenith vessel]

Or HoarderBugUseItems.

[west gull]

it looks like that mod isn't mod compatable

they seem to manually code for each item, symbiosis just allows items being held by a hoarding bug to randomly use the lmb function

[strong gust]

Dude I'd love to just wonder what it'd sound like with a hoarding bug holding a walkie

Prob just the usual chitter sound, but if that does get replaced too with mods I'd love just out of nowhere on the walkie you hear a "YIPPEE"

[sick relic]

Does this mod work with version 47

[normal quest]

When importing UAS DunGen into unity I cleared out the stub scripts from the unity template project and am left with these anyone know what they're referring to?

[sick relic]

Error when loading

I enable forced to test this

[timber basin]

Looks like you left the decompiled tile script in?

[normal quest]

which is weird because that folder doesnt exist

like the decompiled one

[nova lake]

yeah looks like duplicate scripts

[nova lake]

likely will not be until lethallib/lethallevelloader update

[slow hemlock]

I mean

[sick relic]

So both custom inside map doesnt work?

So scp and this?

[normal quest]

only see one

[sick relic]

@nova lake

[normal quest]

they said likely not until two other mods are updated

[nova lake]

i might be wrong, i havent rly looked lol

just assuming

[rotund root]

Its hard to tell right away when new patches drop

[slow hemlock]

A LethalLevelLoader Update would also require a Scoopy update 😄

[nova lake]

wat

[slow hemlock]

(so it uses my stuff)

[nova lake]

we have officially become codependent

[normal quest]

ruh roh

[slow hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/xrd-exrd-crypto-btc-eth-gif-23801255

[west gull]

ill test it now, I didn't realize it updated until I found the new hallway

I have like 50 mods installed atm

[rotund root]

well i just loaded into a dungeon