[Deprecated] Advanced Company

[pearl spire]

lmaooo

[wide zealot]

Didn't seem like it was doing anything at least but I still removed it XD

[pearl spire]

(I use it bc I almost exclusively host when I play as I have fast internet and ram to spare, and I have diff files for when I play with diff people/groups)

[pearl spire]

Yeah, even if just for the sake of organization

[wide zealot]

Sometimes old configs cause chaos when not deleted lol

Glad that one didn't do anything

[pearl spire]

oh really?

[wide zealot]

I remember someone mentioning once when they removed BetterStamina the leftover config bugged their game til they deleted it

Lol

[pearl spire]

Oh wow

[solar girder]

nah it gets reseted im gonna have to save it each time

it looks better then i thought

on a preview edit i did

[frigid crystal]

Hehehehehe

Do we know what the model looks like yet?

[solar girder]

i mean Eggu said she would do the texturing so unsure when it would be finish

but we must give her time

like everyone she has other stuff to work on

[solar girder]

oh yeah ill say this one more time this is not real and is just a edit with pngs

[frigid crystal]

Yep i know

[solar girder]

alright good

[frigid crystal]

Peak takes time

[solar girder]

fr

[patent turtle]

💯 the amount of times
I said delete the config for a mod and like magic their issue was fixed.

[wide zealot]

I will say I had issues where some people had said

they couldn't join the lobby due to a glitch

I now wonder if it was that latecompany config

XD

@patent turtle

[solar girder]

if u are using AC remove everything about Latecompany

even the configs

[shy arch]

dose anyone know how to find the override values for the scrap table in files

[wide zealot]

Ik I just realized I had an old latecompany config leftover from months ago I forgot to delete earlier

It is gone now, idk how I forgot to delete it

Unless it resurged somehow lmfao which is possible

I had to import my own mod codes at one point when troubleshooting my mod pack being unstable a few months back

So possible it brought it back and I forgot to delete it

[solar girder]

i made my pfp into the RollingEyes

lol

[frigid crystal]

looked dupe

[solar girder]

and big improvement on the pupils and shading

btw i havent upload anything this is just a PNG i edited

[arctic sonnet]

@wide zealot Oi. Gib stable door locking mod. -w-

[wide zealot]

I don't use one

[bold lance]

is there a way to turn down the cursed item volume?

[magic tendon]

Hey @hearty frost , do I need ShipLoot with General Improvements, or it is included in it

[acoustic flax]

Yes. Change the music volume slider in AdvancedCompany settings. The music volume defaults to 100%, which is indeed very loud. Unfortunately I haven't found a way to sync this setting with a profile code, so every player needs to change it manually.

[feral current]

Almost done and ready to distribute this scrap replacer tool for using custom scrap models but not changing any of the "balance" in the game

to be used with advanced company

[solar girder]

bro is going into the Matrix

[acoustic flax]

Another questionable default setting not fixable by profile code is "Invert scroll" in the "Hotbar" tab of AdvancedCompany settings. This setting would have been a good solution to earlier versions of Lethal Company where the hotbar scrolling was the opposite of what one would intuitively expect, and rebinding had not yet been added to the game. Since then, Lethal Company added rebinding options, and reversed the default hotbar scrolling binds. So now every fresh profile of Advanced Company has the hotbar re-inverted to the bad old way. It's especially jarring on Steam Deck or other controllers, where pressing right scrolls left and pressing left scrolls right.

[shy arch]

How

Please tell

[feral current]

lots and lots of code

well not too much

I just need to clean it up, get it color coded, and dumb it down, and make a tutorial but it looks like it works great. Instead of normal items they were all metroid themed from that giant scrap mod

[wide zealot]

@mellow saffron So I removed Better Lobbies and MoreCompany cus coincidentally they both touch gamenetworkmanager disconnect

Might be the cause for my damn issues lol

It's not worth it

[rocky granite]

Well if you’re using AC and MoreCompany in the same pack, AC disables it

[analog snow]

One of our players perks got reset for some reason. Is there any way to restore progress?

XP has dissapeared

[rocky granite]

If you’re the host there’s a command you can do in the portable terminal to give people xp

It’s either “xp add [user] [amount]” or “xp add [amount] [user]”

[analog snow]

Thanks 🙂

[simple spruce]

Hey @solid pivot, would you consider adding ServerConfiguration entries to be publicly available? I remember you saying you "won't touch the terminal", and right now items blocked in AC are still visible in the store list, and I would love to have some solution to bridge this gap 😅

[primal nexus]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/phawitpp/SuperLandmine/ Also makes for a more fun game:P

[solar girder]

there are items that are blocked?

[simple spruce]

you can block items in AC's Items tab - scrap from spawning & unlockables from being bought

but there's no way to access them outside of AC (i reckon for some reasons)

[solar girder]

oh the scraps and buyable items yeah i had no issues with them

[simple spruce]

me too

[solar girder]

so whats the issue then

[simple spruce]

but i'm doing a terminal formatting mod

[solar girder]

oh

[simple spruce]

and being able to not show disabled items would be god-like

[solar girder]

but doesnt AC already does that?

[simple spruce]

in pocketpc, yes

in terminal, no

[solar girder]

i havent really used pocketpc much

so i have to check rq

cause i disable a few items and they ain't buyable no more

[simple spruce]

yes, you cannot buy them, but they are still present on store list

[solar girder]

ill check

[simple spruce]

oh, am i misremembering this?

[solar girder]

also i improved my icon for RollingEyes once again

sooner or later it will be a mod

[simple spruce]

🤔 looks like i'm wrong - the items are not present in terminal listings

so it's my problem then

[solar girder]

👀

yeah i checked not there but now we are up to 50 mods

[primal nexus]

AC should implement a way to show the time in 24 hour format so I don't have to have an external mod for that 😭

[solar girder]

that should be a GI thing

not a AC thing 👀

[primal nexus]

GI?

[quiet harness]

General Improvements

[primal nexus]

Ah, yeah 😄

Also lb to kg

[solar girder]

doesnt GI have that too (Changeable in configs)

for when having items in your inventory yeah

[primal nexus]

Can't remember if I replaced it with GI... will have to check later

One of these should also include Suit Saver, too

[solar girder]

pretty sure GI doesnt have suit savers

also AC has suit saver (pretty sure only when u get ejected to space "not for every new game")

[primal nexus]

I know, I thought I could replace Suit Saver mod with AC, but unfortunately no

[feral current]

Time to just delete the terminal and have everything run through the pad

[covert notch]

@hearty frost Bro I found 3 fatal errors xD

1. I don't know which mod makes the tactical helmets (AC) not hear the microphone when using "V" to talk to your partner.
   That is, the host can be heard but those who enter the game cannot speak through the microphone.
   (I solved it by deactivating 2 mic mods)
2. I don't know what mod caused it to not be able to scan enemies correctly.
3. When I am a host and my friend asks for a shotgun at the store (buyableshotgunmod) and the store came to leave the things, it happened that only I as the host could see the shotgun but my partner could not. We tried several times to buy the shotgun and only I could see it, the others couldn't.
   I couldn't solve these last 2 errors. (Unless I create a new profile and download the mods to buy the shotguns only. Then my partner could just see the shotgun)
   Everything else was working properly.

[open linden]

@hearty frost heyyyy played with ur modpack again yesterday, the only complaint i had was that 80% of the interiors my group had were bunkers over the course of 6 hours, had mental hospital like 3 times and never got pool, castle, or sewer. got facility like 4 times and mansion once. any recommendations for the interior rarities?

[hearty frost]

You know what I didn't even notice at first, and deffo didn't notice the v45 KEK What the actual F xD "AC such a broken mod, wont work with me pirates!!!" xD

Please say you didn't try turning of harmony logging xD hehehehe

[hearty frost]

OW balls I forgot to add back the rarities! D:

[hearty frost]

Thanks for letting me know, will get it sorted just got back home!

[hearty frost]

Currently asking about LGU - Depending on if and what issues it has at the moment, I may reroll version back or remove it from pack for time being.

There's some mod updates today and maybe a few others coming today also? So will see what can be done, when I think I sorted it I'll recommend making a new profile and redownloading pack - updating the pack doesn't remove stuff I removed it seems and sometimes doesn't include the changes I make.

https://tenor.com/view/good-luck-gif-24090093

[solid pivot]

@mellow saffron MoreCompany DOES the same thing

Its the player instantiation, like I suspected

And the error isnt happening when setting player count to 4

Can you validate that it actually became null by using GetComponent again in Start?

[hearty frost]

So any lobby solution will produce the same returns basically, makes a little more sense then why it's player audio

[solid pivot]

It might got replaced by Unitys Network System

Dunno what Voodoo Unitys Netcode stuff is doing. I guess it replaced the AudioSource

[sweet glacier]

why does "help" command doesnt work on the mini terminal?

[solid pivot]

It does work? It shows all commands you can use on it

[sweet glacier]

Well it doesnt in my case

[solid pivot]

I see the help message? Huh?

This IS the help message?

Thats all commands there are

use info for more infos on items

Shows THIS text for guidance

[sweet glacier]

ohh.. i thought the "help" will show something

[cursive cosmos]

is there a way i can disable the flashlight keybind?

[solid pivot]

Unbind it?

[hearty frost]

Go to your binds and unbind it?

[cursive cosmos]

makes sense :3

[hearty frost]

Why would you want to unbind your flashlight key, are you a masochist?

[solid pivot]

Yea but Bongo claimed yesterday it works with MoreCompany

[cursive cosmos]

will these bindings save through modpack codes?

[hearty frost]

Input_Util binds do yeah

[solid pivot]

I dunno, ask Input_Utils but most likely

[cursive cosmos]

nice

[hearty frost]

Oh really? o.o I gave up totally with MoreCompany just before finding AC so I wouldn't know haha. I honestly thought it was something to do with the items, I never actually thought to check playercount tbh

Also I think they were pointing out about the lack of point "HELP" is for when you got Info 😛 Maybe change Info to help?

[solid pivot]

Only thing I dont understand is why SoundAPI is getting those AudioSources. I create them in OnSceneLoaded in the Network stuff

I guess the Network side of Unity does something with the networked objects

[sweet glacier]

is there any other command other than this?

[rocky granite]

not that i know of, but i'm sure there is

[sweet glacier]

damn.. i wonder if there any command list

[hearty frost]

"debug" xp credits

[solid pivot]

shipxp [amount]
credits [amount]

those are debug commands

[hearty frost]

yeah shipxp too 😛

Bro wants a cheatcode list xD

Like we back in 2002

@solid pivot I am guessing there's an obvious reason why BiggerLobby doesn't make these null returns with SoundAPI?

[solid pivot]

Exactly 4 times the error happens. For 4 instantiated players, on the new players the value for source is null but there is a AudioSource @mellow saffron

[hearty frost]

@solid pivot I thought everything was networked with BiggerLobby?

[shy arch]

How do you show how many mods are enabled on the home screen

[solid pivot]

From what I see BiggerLobby should have the same error

[meager quartz]

Hello!
I found an incompability.
It seems that scan fix setting turned on in Global Improvements cause stutters while using the personal terminal and cause overall FPS to be lower

[hearty frost]

I use both AC and GI and don't have this issue? Mods in general will lower fps but shouldn't be a huge difference.

[meager quartz]

Did you manually enabled scan fix?

[hearty frost]

No.

[meager quartz]

That what I'm talking about

[rocky granite]

i'll check my modpack and see if i have it enabled

[hearty frost]

Ow yeah my bad, why did only part of message load for me 0.0

Have you tried ScanFix on GI standalone?

[rocky granite]

@meager quartz this one?

[meager quartz]

Yes

[rocky granite]

yea that's enabled in my modpack with AC and I haven't come across any issues

[meager quartz]

Hm-m

[hearty frost]

Anything in console @meager quartz ?

[meager quartz]

Nope. Just FPS is 100 instead of 144 and stutters in the perks

[hearty frost]

We had someone a little while back saying they had FPS drops when using terminal, I wonder if we ever found out what was causing it

[rocky granite]

pretty sure that was dmitry as well lmao

[meager quartz]

lol

[hearty frost]

Ow.... D;

[hearty frost]

Are you playing in Fullscreen or something else?

[meager quartz]

Fullscreen, with the Russian translation

[hearty frost]

Give Borderless Fullscreen a go, I see huge fps tanks in Fullscreen when it can't utilse FSE and access DXI

Especially if you're using HDLethal or something

[meager quartz]

Thanks, I will try, but I have GSync on, so I doubt it will work well in borderless mode

[hearty frost]

I thought gsync just works of native hz and not the app?

or you mean you're forcing gsync onto LC?

[meager quartz]

It works with fullscreen applications.
It adapt monitor refresh rate to the FPS

[hearty frost]

Ah I get you! Like FreeSync I guess for AMD?

[solid pivot]

Just deactivate "Fullscreen only" in your G-Sync settings

[meager quartz]

It affects windowed applications

[hearty frost]

Was about to say if it's like FreeSync you can enable it on any window without it being fullscreen

[solid pivot]

G-Sync works in borderless. I can confirm, I have a RTX 4090 and G-Sync display :D

No, it will only affect games

[meager quartz]

No, I already tried it

[solid pivot]

Those problems are years old and fixed by now

Then install Windows 11

[meager quartz]

Some applications are working with low FPS by default

[sweet glacier]

guys, does perks shared among players? like only host can upgrade them?

[solid pivot]

I have 0 problems

[meager quartz]

And GSync cause the cursor to be stuttery

[solid pivot]

No, all players get their own perks

[hearty frost]

ShipXP is for all 😄

[meager quartz]

...but I have one D:

[solid pivot]

Dunno why you have problems then. For me G-Sync only kicks in with games in borderless :D

[meager quartz]

I have no problems with GSync and fullscreen mode 😄
I just answered why I don't use borderless mode

I can manually enable GSync for specific apps in borderless mode, but why if I can just use fullscreen that works completely fine for me? 🙂

[solid pivot]

According to Nvidia GSync should also work when windowed mode is off and you have games in borderless window tho. At least with Windows 11

at least when you have Windows 11 >22H2

[meager quartz]

Hmmm... Good to know

[solid pivot]

According to Microsoft and Nvidia :D

[hearty frost]

I just find stuff works better in boardless ngl 😛

[meager quartz]

I never tested it on latest versions

[hearty frost]

I get higher frames in boarderless too xD

[solid pivot]

Usually you get higher FPS in exclusive fullscreen tho But borderless has so many more advantages that the 2FPS arent worth it for me

[hearty frost]

I got FSE disabled 😛

[solid pivot]

I can tab out of the game without all the hassle of minimizing a fullscreen application

[hearty frost]

Tabbing yaaaas 😄

[meager quartz]

Yeah, tabbing is better in borderless

[sweet glacier]

ohh.. so shipxp only host can upgrade it?

[solid pivot]

Yes

no

Only host can respec it tho

So if someone does an error while upgrading the ship, host can respec it. But only on company building now because of exploits

[meager quartz]

Sorry, I was wrong.
I just had outdated mods, and the thing that fixed my issue was an update 😄

[analog snow]

Heyo! What causes the "Missing/Mismatched Network Identifiers"? How do I reduce this happening as it causes lag spikes when it has to correct itself?

[hearty frost]

@solid pivot Also triple checked, I don't see the warnings from SoundAPI when using BiggerLobby

Only other lobby solutions it produces the null 😛

I also set lobby size to 16 players

Also just tried LateCompany as well, still nothing for me D:

[sweet glacier]

got this error while trying to use the tactical helm

[solid pivot]

https://github.com/FluffyFishGames/AdvancedCompany/wiki/Compatibility

[sweet glacier]

Oh nice... Fair ai seems to be the problem.. thanks man

[solid pivot]

Not sure about that, any inventory mod will break

[hearty frost]

How can FairAI break inventory? o.o

[solid pivot]

HotbarPlus etc.

[sweet glacier]

ohh that reservedslot thingies.. i see

[solid pivot]

I can fix the error only by enabling all player objects

Which will result in a big tank in FPS

Thats the only difference between BiggerLobby and AC

[hearty frost]

Would this tank Memory mainly or Both mem and cpu?

[solid pivot]

FPS

CPU and GPU

So its a wontfix from me. Fix is to GetComponent<AudioSource> in Start I think. The AudioSource is there

[hearty frost]

oh damn didn't realise it would affect the gpu that much D:

[solid pivot]

SkinnedMeshRenderers affect the GPU as well

[hearty frost]

OW

Along with what you said, would just simply loading SoundAPI first solve the relatively minor issue?

or would that bonk your loading process in anyway?

[solid pivot]

wouldnt help at all

[hearty frost]

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[solid pivot]

I posted a fix

Its up to others if they want to ignore it tho

[lapis bone]

Hi everyone, just would like to ask where can I adjust the number of creature spawn inside the facilities? because we have a lot of people in game and vanilla number is too easy for us. Thank you very much!

[solid pivot]

Increase max power

in all 3 categories

per moon

[hearty frost]

stick it all on 9000

o.o prepare your fromes tho

[solid pivot]

or increase max power here

Culling mask ~(1 << 23) doesnt work. Culling mask 1 << 23 works because the light wont affect anything at all

@split mist

Culling mask 0 would work just as good

You wouldnt be able to see the lights in third person then tho as long as nobody changes the culling mask for third person

[hearty frost]

@solid pivot I can confirm this but haven't tried/tested AC standalone but yeah if you pull level as someone joins, it softlocks until they leave and rejoin.

[solid pivot]

"as someone joins". Dont join in the moment when lever is pulled

It will break

[hearty frost]

It's more when a lobby is public

I know >.< Just saying it does happen haha, when randos join when you're going to pull lever :p

I don't have this issue persay I only do private lobbies 😛

[solid pivot]

The error described there is another one tho

See steps to reproduce

[hearty frost]

I need to learn to read :/

[sweet glacier]

may i know what did you fix and where can i find it?

[solid pivot]

It wasnt in regards to your problem. Just dont add any inventory mods is your solution

Thats all I can offer to you @split mist Lights are basically disabled for local players cosmetics

If any third person mod wants to reenable them they can get the cosmetics via ACs API and set the culling mask to ~0

and back to 0 when third person cam ends

I guess thats what flips is doing with MoreCompany

[sweet glacier]

is there any mods that allow the uses of walkietalkie on tactical helm while using terminal?

[solid pivot]

1.1.2

• Added new lobby settings to customize your lobby. Giving you the ability when save progress is off to carry over XP when not meeting quota (Reset XP -> false) and all players having the same XP as the host (Individual progress -> false). Also gives the ability to adjust starting ship XP.
• Fixed an error with the savegames not loading correctly when other mods change the item names.
• Fixed some bugs with the controller item not letting you die from death zones and making the controller visible again when climbing ladders.
• Added a compability feature to deactivate most features of AC by removing all inventory patches making it compatible with other mods changing the inventory. You won't get any support from me when activating this option if you don't provide logs showing an error happening when this option is not activated.
• Hopefully fixed tactical helmet lights not turning off when battery runs out for good this time.
• Fixed a bug which resulted in the weight of the bulletproof vest not being removed from player when its breaking
• Changed culling mask of local players cosmetics lights to not affect any renderers.
• Fixed the compatibility typo.
• Changed the Mostly Vanilla preset to not include the controller and remove the hotbar changes as well. Please make sure your errors happen with other presets as well and only provide logs not produced with mostly vanilla when reporting bugs or your bug reports will be ignored for the same reason stated in the hotbar setting.

1.1.2 is being uploaded rn

I will now cook some food and then enjoy the rest of my weekend ;)

Next weekend I will look into the other bugs and stuff

[hearty frost]

For what reason exactly?

Why you using AC then? o.o

Then it's not relative then? lol

You critise something you don't support?

I guess you missed this. At end of the day, bro made a mod for free.

[mellow saffron]

hmm I'll take a closer look then, weird that this issue only comes up with lobby expanding mods

[hearty frost]

It happens with all lobby expansions except for BiggerLobby which is strange as I guess that's networked too?

[rocky granite]

this is the stupidest shit i've ever read on this server ngl

[hearty frost]

They're a critic, apparently I am antsy for stating obvious o.o

[solid pivot]

Lobby expanding mods are adding the objects in scene loaded basically. Dunno why it happens tho

[rocky granite]

that's what happens when people get full of themselves 🤷‍♂️

[hearty frost]

Doesn't use AC, has no intention of using any of its features and thinks their 'critic' is warrented. Imagine the entitlement. Lol

[solid pivot]

I mean all I see are blocked messages :)

Seems like it was a wannabe loser. Thats usually the type of people I block

[rocky granite]

you're the one who came here and started crying first lmfao

[solid pivot]

Like unemployed incel material

Dunno what the person is writing tho but I am sure this will apply greatly to them: Touch some grass

[rocky granite]

ok then make it better if you're so wise in the subject

[solid pivot]

I only see your responses, I wont read the messages :3

[hearty frost]

Being critiqued by someone called squeaker 💀

[rocky granite]

entitlement is crazy

[solid pivot]

Its funny. Seeing you all react to this wannabe loser having done nothing substantial in live and even got blocked by me because he is such a loser :3

[hearty frost]

So by this logic, you should make your own mod. I could not imagine getting so irate over a mod that's free.

[rocky granite]

I just like messing with idiots like this because it's funny seeing how desperate they get to try and be correct

[hearty frost]

I have a habbit of fueling fires o.o

[mental crow]

[mental crow]

Is there a problem

[hearty frost]

Squeaker be squeaking 👀

[solid pivot]

I dont want to read those messages @rocky granite

Last warning or else I will block you

[rocky granite]

I was replying to the other dude to show him he's wrong 🤷‍♂️

[solid pivot]

I mean you could just ignore this lonely loser

[rocky granite]

Yea but then what will they learn? They just move onto the next place to act like a complete loser and annoy more people. Gotta put people like that in their place :/

[solid pivot]

You wont be able to. :3

[hearty frost]

I wouldn't say it's upset, some people just can't be bothered with out of line bs 😛

[mental crow]

It’s their thread. Generally being provocative doesn’t end up making people less upset.

[hearty frost]

and yeah, you wont be able to show them anything out of their own scope. To put it politely, their own head is up their ass

[mental crow]

Mhm. Well you know what I do if this continues.

[rocky granite]

tbf tho. didn't you enter this thread just to shit talk on the mod dev?

isn't that considered witch hunting

[mental crow]

Nexus I really don’t need your help

[hearty frost]

It's not the first time 😛

[solid pivot]

@rocky granite of course, thats why I block people :D

And yes, it isnt the first time

[mental crow]

Stay in your lane

[hearty frost]

https://tenor.com/view/ferrari-fast-car-and-furious-gif-20643657

I'm just curios to who shit in their breakfast :/

[solid pivot]

:3

Have some empathy. He is a big loser. He doesnt have anything in life. No friends, no money, no happiness. All whats left is to come to random people and try to drag them down.

[mental crow]

Enough

[hearty frost]

That doesn't help anyone Potatoe >.<

[solid pivot]

Its the truth tho

[rocky granite]

he's not wrong

[solid pivot]

I can promise you that when I read the messages now I can show you lies over lies and fabricated stuff

[mental crow]

I don’t want to hear anyone shit talking someone to their face, nor do I want anyone provoking another person.

First person to lose that competition gets muted for two days.

Capiche?

[rocky granite]

that word is spelled with a c??

[mental crow]

I googled it to make sure

[rocky granite]

hell i always thought it was a g

[hearty frost]

You thought it was Gapiche? o.o

[solid pivot]

Actually its capisce but well

[rocky granite]

that's what it sounds like whenever I've heard someone say it 😭

[solid pivot]

At least that the original italian way of spelling it

[rocky granite]

I just tried looking it up

There's like 5 different variations

[hearty frost]

There's different ways to spell it depending on where you're in the world 😛

[rocky granite]

Yea

[solid pivot]

English variations? Yea, the original word is Capisce as stated on wiktionary:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/capisce

[hearty frost]

I've only ever seen Capiche and Capisce myself though 😛 maybe a third one but not so often

[solid pivot]

But in the end it doesnt really matter as long as people understand you

But the word "kabish" on wiktionary would make me question the word and if its something to eat somehow. Maybe because of kebab?

[hearty frost]

hmm kebab tasty :3

[solid pivot]

Btw, I just read some of the first messages of that guy. Does he realize that AC is modular? You can now also deactivate the inventory stuff

As I stated, I was able to find a lie very easily

[hearty frost]

Yeah I showed them but they ignored what I said I guess 😛

[mental crow]

[solid pivot]

Thats not shit talking tho. Its stating facts AC in 1.1.2 can deactivate all inventory changes

Making it compatible with ReservedSlots, HotbarPlus etc.

Oh well, I have to change the compatibility page :D

[hearty frost]

I think it's more about the entire bundle still getting loaded rather than just having part of it loaded? That's my guess 😛

[mental crow]

Things are going great thanks.

[solid pivot]

I might be able to do that later. The code becomes more and more modular with time to the point I can split the code.

[hearty frost]

You're genuinely a shitty person if you TRY to irritate people. Imagine choosing to be unlikable :S

[mental crow]

You’re going to have to try harder than that, fam.

Should have just let it be, a was being nice not muting you immediately. Oh well.

[solid pivot]

Oh, is he attacking you now?

[fiery relic]

squeak3r was banned.

[solid pivot]

I see

[hearty frost]

They wrote a long story for @mental crow 😛

like some essay type stuff :/

[solid pivot]

So I was right with my assesment about what type of person they were

[hearty frost]

For most part, yeah 😛

[solid pivot]

Even tho it might be not nice of me to point that out but well. He shows the exact behaviour of people like the ones I described

[hearty frost]

It's like people like Jack Doherty I just don't understand. Just making a generation of instigators for quick clout 😛

[solid pivot]

True

[mental crow]

So much for trying to stop from people Dogpiling on them.

For future reference, don’t fucking do that. It makes things so much worse.

Was seriously debating with myself whether or not I would have to mute potatoe in his own thread.

[solid pivot]

Next time I will do a @ moderator again :D

[open linden]

ok @hearty frost am i crazy or does bunker's spawn rarity is much higher than the other interiors, i put them all the same n bunker spawns so much 😭

[solid pivot]

Are you scared of spiders? 👀

[hearty frost]

haha I'm sorting it out as we speak 😛

[hearty frost]

nah the interior I forgot to set the rarities back 😛

[solid pivot]

well, happens :3

[open linden]

i actually love spiders :3

[hearty frost]

I only love the cute little jumpy spiders :3

[solid pivot]

I only love queelag. Amazing chest ahead and stuff

(Dark Souls reference)

[hearty frost]

I wonder when someone makes a new spider enemy that is a trapdoor spider xD

[solid pivot]

Evil

[hearty frost]

Haha xD

[open linden]

hides in vents

[mental crow]

Side not I’m not sure where they got the cropped pfp or furry porn part from

[hearty frost]

Imagine walking past a vent and jsut getting pulled in

[solid pivot]

dw. I guess nobody in here cares what that person claimed

[hearty frost]

I just had concern they were self projecting :/

[open linden]

oh !

[mental crow]

Oh that’s where

[hearty frost]

They joined back on another discord lmao

[mental crow]

Good to know

[hearty frost]

Stalker behaviour kinda wild

[fiery relic]

amsorreh was banned.

[open linden]

girl u literally play overwatch get out 😭

[solid pivot]

Yea, pretty obsessed dude

[hearty frost]

For some reason I think @mental crow gonna be on their mind xD

[solid pivot]

About some drawn images

[open linden]

the bio was literally a overwatch ship like no bye

[hearty frost]

If they chill in VRChat too that would be even more wild.

[solid pivot]

I mean, maybe I am weird but I didnt find that image offensive or problematic in any way

[hearty frost]

Boobas has that effect on people o.o

[solid pivot]

haha

[mental crow]

What can I say shark girls are hot

If anyone has any more questions about my preferences ask away in dm’s

[solid pivot]

soon 👀

[open linden]

oh !

looks like my email

[solid pivot]

yea, 9999 spam mails and 13 legit ones :3

[open linden]

...

[mental crow]

Hello again

[hearty frost]

They really like you @mental crow

[mental crow]

What’s new

[solid pivot]

They wont get you off their mind

I think they are in love with you @mental crow

[hearty frost]

Love is in the air!

[solid pivot]

One thing is good about this: I can block that person on all of his accounts

[warm mortar]

hey guys anyone know a mod to remove scrap loss on death other than this one and lethal utilites

[open linden]

do u want 100% prevention?

[warm mortar]

yea

[smoky thicket]

i promise you not all ow players are like this 😭

[solid pivot]

[warm mortar]

Bro what is that hahaha

[hearty frost]

SharkBro xD

[solid pivot]

FFXIV

[hearty frost]

Bro seen things

[warm mortar]

sharkbro? ok then hes a wacky guy

[solid pivot]

Its a custome of a Namazu. They are basically catfish

[open linden]

u cud make this 100% on the left side or i used to use NoDeathDespawn

[warm mortar]

alright i will try it

[vocal epoch]

upgrade hunter

[open linden]

i didnt realize the update came out

https://tenor.com/view/oprah-hq-oprah-winfrey-oprah-oprah-winfrey-hq-gif-25023192

[hearty frost]

Ahah yeah why I am sorting modpack out now xD Although I don't even know if the mrs gonna play tonight 😛

Also immortalsnail added config for it to enter the ship now too haha

[open linden]

YESSSS

i love that

yup seems to work with reserved flash n walkie, now back to the real AC 🥺

[solid pivot]

Good to know that my solution works :> This bad unmodular AC

[shy arch]

I gotten used to AC and personally I think AC is more realistic then reserved spots.

[solid pivot]

At least you now can use ReservedSlots if you are willing to take the two sacrifices

No equipment items/inv perk and no support

[hearty frost]

That's 3 things o.o

https://tenor.com/view/hahaha-dogo-smile-cute-gif-16039989

[solid pivot]

Thats 2: The missing content in AC and No support :3

[hearty frost]

.<

[open linden]

🫦

[wide zealot]

Holy shit you love to see it XD

[wide zealot]

I've gotten to used to AC's hotbar tbh

[solid pivot]

changed = changes

[wide zealot]

the vanilla hotbar sucks

[solid pivot]

You can opt for HotbarPlus and ReservedSlots now if you want to

[wide zealot]

This is true

But I got used to no longer having them a while ago

and I don't miss the bugs they came with XD

The amount of desyncs reservedcore gave me at one point

LOL

[solid pivot]

I just cant hear all the whining any longer

[wide zealot]

Yeah

It's good for those who can't adjust

[open linden]

oh maybe remove compat with hotbarplus cuz i can't click continue even with the hotbar off 🫢

[solid pivot]

It was a change I started to work on since january

Maybe your save is corrupt?

HotbarPlus shouldnt change anything there

[open linden]

ye it says its corrupt everytime i restart the game

[solid pivot]

xD

[open linden]

LOL

but it works with reserved so

🤷‍♂️

[solid pivot]

Thats what I am doing rn

[open linden]

the chocobo!

[solid pivot]

Its Alpha

[magic tendon]

we need this as a moon

[wide zealot]

Yay time to find out what caused this to happen when I loaded my save, if I have to make a new save for tn it's fine XD

Just loaded into eternal darkness

[hearty frost]

@solid pivot Gifs don't work for flavors right?

[open linden]

ok nvm it works if u tick these, and go into lobby

[solid pivot]

only png

I can add mp4 support

But I wont

[wide zealot]

Yeah that save seems to just be fucked let me see if it happens when I try and make a new save if it does that means one of the mods that had an update bricked something

Inb4 CullingFactory somehow

[hearty frost]

Yeah dw about mp4 support haha xD

[wide zealot]

Save corruption

New save works fine

Bruh how lol wtf XD

[modern marsh]

easier than you think

[earnest estuary]

@solid pivot where can i find github of mod?

[solid pivot]

Pinned messages

[earnest estuary]

do u know where i can find source?

[split mist]

But the lights work in mirror mod tho when TooManyEmotes is installed, so that's not it

[earnest estuary]

where can I see on how weighted randoms work i want to specify certain entities on certain moons.

[open linden]

OMG U FIXED THE COSMETICS SHOWING IN FIRST PERSON 🩷

for some

dont ask 💀

[solid pivot]

Higher value = More common

AC doesnt spawn anything

[wide zealot]

I know people used to get this all the time lol but recently they haven't

[wide zealot]

Lmfao Buff Kevin btw wtf XD

[solid pivot]

@split mist I have fixed it locally now with RenderPipelineManager but thats not how the other mods seems to do it I guess they are activating / deactivating cosmetics or smth tbh

In Unity there is no way to hide a light with the layering system. Lights are not affected by the layering system at all. All you can do is make them not illuminate certain stuff. Which you can do by setting the cullingLayer but when TME isnt setting the culling layer back to make it illuminate stuff, AC cant do anything

So AC will now do this itself too

TME does stuff for MoreCompany a lot to make it work

Same with Mirror. AC is doing all of this stuff for itself

I will maybe remove the layer 23 stuff tho as its no longer needed

I work with the RenderPipeline now

[earnest estuary]

@solid pivot im trying to load a image called CorruptCompanyLogo.png, i put it in the advanced company folder and it doesnt work at all

after the small update recently loading a logo doesnt seem to work

[hearty frost]

Uhmmm

[earnest estuary]

???

i renamed it to logo png and put it in the modpack settings

[hearty frost]

Plugins folder lol

[earnest estuary]

in my plugins folder

im trying to use it

[hearty frost]

This isn't plugins folder.

that's your config

[earnest estuary]

i know

i moved it there
still doesnt work.

[earnest estuary]

just blackscreens when loading in now.

[wide zealot]

Oh so it's on AC's end

Creating a new save fixes it

[earnest estuary]

thats the problem lol the main menu is blackscreened

i cant create a new save

[wide zealot]

Ah I only had loading an old save do that

[hearty frost]

bro sent ac into the shadowrealm

[split mist]

Valid, valid

Just odd that it works for TME

But hey, a fix is a fix

[solid pivot]

Because it probably activate/deactivates the objects

[wide zealot]

You know what might be causing the blackscreen issue for some people after the new update?

I'm not sure how the main menu could even fail to load

I only had a borked save file

[solid pivot]

Nope, AC isnt doing anything new in main menu whatsoever

Saves get corrupted when you Alt+F4

Its like that in vanilla

[wide zealot]

Yeah it's easy to get a corrupted save

[solid pivot]

When its saving and you Alt+F4 its save corruption

Sometimes even happens when loading a game and Alt+F4ing etc.

[earnest estuary]

okay I got it but now it just shows advanced company and not loading my PNG

is the ModPack.cfg file updated?

[solid pivot]

this ES3 is very brittle

Zeeks should activate the included backup option

[wide zealot]

Btw Potatoe maybe you might know, do you know any known mods that cause the issue of being unable to back out of the lobby? Been trying to figure out what could cause that in my pack

[earnest estuary]

how do I remove saves?

[wide zealot]

I did go through and remove quite a few mods that touch gamenetworkmanager last night

I'm still thinking it's possible it's ToggleMute after it's latest update

[solid pivot]

I dunno

[wide zealot]

It was updated to fix it spamming errors when using it with AC, but I think in the process broke something else

[languid dawn]

Is there a way to set minimum and maximum loot VALUE per moon? Ik there's an option for loot amount, but not for value.

I see that you can change the loot value multiplier it's hard to configure moons when we dont know the base value, especially for modded moons

[mental crow]

[wide zealot]

I did see qwbarch suggest maybe AC should implement functionalities such as ToggleMute and the lobby code system Better Lobbies has

Idk if you've considered it

[solid pivot]

ToggleMute?

[hearty frost]

Why people use ToggleMute PushToMute is the goat 😛

[wide zealot]

I couldn't get PushToMute to work at all when I tried it

Does it work for you?

[hearty frost]

there's 0 reason for it not to work :/

[wide zealot]

Okay I'll try replacing ToggleMute with it then and test

[wide zealot]

Basically just a feature that allows you to tap a key to mute and unmute ingame without having to use push to talk

Something that should really just be in vanilla tbh

[earnest estuary]

this is all AC configs right?

[modern spear]

Found a pretty huge problem.
When I lauch the game with these off it won't load in. But when I enable them back it works again.

[hearty frost]

have you also got "logo.png" in modpack.cfg

[solar girder]

i could prop help you remove those white outlines

[hearty frost]

case sensitive

[wide zealot]

Yeah no

[wide zealot]

PushToMute does nothing

[earnest estuary]

after the new update it just doesnt load

[modern spear]

Also it works after the first load with all buttons enabled but complains about corrupt save after relaunching the game and trying to load into the save with the buttons are disabled.

[wide zealot]

That mod is borked

[hearty frost]

CAPITAL "L"

[modern spear]

probably useless to say this, the report is just going to get lost on the wall of text.

[hearty frost]

That's still your config folder.........

[earnest estuary]

where do you want me to move it too?

i thought you said you want it there

[hearty frost]

EXACTLY where I showed you.

[earnest estuary]

your folder is different than mine

wait

[hearty frost]

Okay no offense but you're being a little dumb haha xD

[earnest estuary]

in plugins one sec

[hearty frost]

Yes yes....!!!!

[earnest estuary]

second one?

whats the difference between them?

[eternal mauve]

could you post the error on the github?

[hearty frost]

Why you using search for >.<

Literally go to your plugins folder and put it in there where advancedcompany is

[scarlet cave]

Just send him the file path

There yeah

[hearty frost]

I already sent it before.

they kept going to their config folder >.<

[scarlet cave]

Go back two files from here, then go plugins then potatoepet-advancedcompany

[hearty frost]

I believe in them! You can do it!

I am just confused by the use of Windows Search, when you're on R2 or TS app you can go to profile location from there 😄

I think this is much easier to navigate to folders instead of using a search to the directory

@earnest estuary

[earnest estuary]

It works now

[hearty frost]

It will take you to start of directory 😄

[hearty frost]

Lets goooo! 😄 good stuff 😄

[earnest estuary]

i dont understand how I can program yet be so stupid

😅

[hearty frost]

Don't worry! it's just little things that can easily be overlooked? I dunno the word haha 😛

[modern spear]

good idea, I'll do that.

[solar girder]

i just realized something why did Thunderstore put AdvancedCompany at the bottem

this actually affects my modpack

[hearty frost]

It does opposite order to your manifest 😛

So top is bottom and bottom is top

[solar girder]

but it wasnt like that?

is this a new update or something?

it just started today

now i checked my modpack and 5 mods are out dated now

[hearty frost]

Nah I think it's been like it, I find as well if you update manifest with other versions of dependency it shifts them around too :/

[solar girder]

why does it do that

[earnest estuary]

im putting credit in the modpack desc but is there a way to remove the watermark on logo.png

[hearty frost]

weird website magic xD

[solar girder]

its gonna be a mess to clean up in my manifest

now

[scarlet cave]

If its not yours, you're not allowed to use it

You need explicit permission

[earnest estuary]

alright

is there a way to change the font for lethal?

like the main menu button fonts etc...

[scarlet cave]

?support @earnest estuary

[fiery relic]

Hello @earnest estuary we have a dedicated support channel and forum here: #help-and-troubleshooting #1185732310700654732
Anyone responding is a volunteer so be patient.

[earnest estuary]

@scarlet cave its not an issue tho
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/LeKAKiD/FontPatcher/
is this good?

[scarlet cave]

I dont know? That's the point of a support channel

[hearty frost]

Im getting blocked by this nutsack xD

[magic tendon]

gyat

[solid pivot]

I mean, there would be a way to remove the "Powered by AdvancedCompany"

You can buy the mod from me. But expect it to be expensive

[scarlet cave]

Tree fity

[modern spear]

Hope the report was clear enough. I don't want to use over 10 minutes to a error reporting.. 😅

[arctic sonnet]

Can confirm ... I thinks

Clicking continue fails o- o

[modern spear]

figured out its the invidual xp that is the problem

just keep it turned on and everything works

[arctic sonnet]

👍

Maybe it just fails to be disabled whilst loading a save file that didn't have it disabled when started

My only guess.

It seems once ye load in with it enabled, then leave, you can freely disable it and other profiles. Ye just can't F with it prior to loading into saves once.

Tis functions afterwards when presets get updated to function with newest version 👍

[solid pivot]

350k? OK :D

[modern spear]

uhh, try to reload the whole game. you can see that the savefile is corrupted after that

didn't try to load the corrupted savefile tho, maybe it works.

[arctic sonnet]

Will attempt real soon, gotta fix configs that were nuked.

[solid pivot]

Then dont use Individual Progress off yet and create a GitHub Issue

[modern spear]

I did.

I was just replying to this guy

[scarlet cave]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-patrick-star-broke-poor-gif-14729256

[edgy mortar]

Does advanced company has some issues rn?

Today while playing With friends we had a lot of issues
Closed doors were glitched and everyone saw different codes for themselves, also ship monitor didn't show codes either
Also fire exits were glitched
I was able to exit with one fire exit, enter the same one and exit in different one inside dungeon

Or I wasn't able to enter fire exit from outside at all

[rocky granite]

That would have nothing to do with AC

[solid pivot]

Sure, it must be AC.

Cant be mods doing stuff with fire exits. AC must secretly do stuff with fire exits, yes, thats the most likely reason.

I mean, AC is silly and is doing messed up stuff

[edgy mortar]

Just asking,

[solid pivot]

Only thing I am looking for now is for LC to die

[wide zealot]

Do you use LethalUtilities? I know that caused problems like that

[solid pivot]

Already lost 50% of the player base anyway

[edgy mortar]

I had 11 mod updates today and I haven't read which ones

[edgy mortar]

Lemme check

[solar girder]

i tried doing that it made it worse\

[edgy mortar]

Chill bro
I don't blame your mod
Im just asking, cause AC was the first thing that came to my mind while thinking of networking and synch mods

[solar girder]

more dependencies ones are more out dated now

[hearty frost]

Newest changed versions go to bottom, just found out after updating mine

[edgy mortar]

Nope

[solar girder]

wait what?

[hearty frost]

I mean it was just the entry of the question tbh from my view 😛

[solar girder]

so newer dependencies go down?

[arctic sonnet]

entering one fire exit and exiting from a different door is a mod itself

[hearty frost]

@solar girder By looks of it yeah

[solar girder]

bruhh that ruins my whole modpack

everything is gonne be outdated

by alot

and bugs will form

[hearty frost]

@covert notch https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/AENIEMA/Stable_AC_Modpack/ - Just updated, please install to a new profile and let me know ❤️ ❤️

@solar girder Huh??? What you talking about things being outdated and bugs forming?

[arctic sonnet]

@solar girder have you seen the shitshow that happened when Lethallib updated? or LLL? 🤣

[hearty frost]

It's just a list on the website >.<

[solar girder]

it ruins my modpack

[arctic sonnet]

The biggest issue mods updating are dependency mods. Especially when they add things

[hearty frost]

o.o

[solar girder]

nothing related to my issue

[arctic sonnet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hearty frost]

I mean if TS could put the modlist into a seperate tab could be handy, like a dependency tab 😛

@solar girder said the aesthetics ruined it all, all over it!

[solar girder]

im gonna try to see how i can fix this issue

with TS new update breaking it

[arctic sonnet]

How is the order breaking anything?

[hearty frost]

Nothing is broken...

[solar girder]

but it seems my mods are using lower versions

[hearty frost]

It should download versions you've set in your dependency, I am confused >.<

[solar girder]

even tho other mods shouldnt override it to lower versions as i already put those ones on top on a different modpack since putting them in the same modpack wont work

[solar girder]

its not doing that for me (which is the main reason i made another modpack to fix that issue before TS new update broke something about that)

[hearty frost]

I'm not seeing older versions on website?

[solar girder]

yeah not on website

but when u install it on TS app

it uses lower versions

i am unsure what is wrong as i already fixed this issue by making another modpack

but it seems like TS doesnt like me for some reason

[hearty frost]

@solar girder Which packs doing it?

[solar girder]

Extras Dependencies are off

[solar girder]

OH wait i remember what u said before

you said TS puts all mods from below to up and up to below right?

what if i put Extras below CORE

it should fix the dependencies right?

[hearty frost]

On first upload yeah, but then as you update dependencies the changed ones go to the bottom

[solar girder]

wait so i have to update each modpack in a order?

[analog snow]

@solid pivot I am experiencing a Multiplayer game breaking bug with Advanced Company. Its been fun to trace as Maritopia was having an issue akin to this one as well.

Currently in my modpack, if Advanced Company is loaded, it will corrupt the Lethal Level Loader config. It will cause moon/interior registers to become duplicated and desynced for all who join.

For example if player 2 chooses Maritopia, Player 1 will see Secret Labs.

Pulling the lever will send both parties to secret Labs.

The reverse is true as well. Player 1 pulls the lever both players will head to Maritopia.

Apon entering the dungeon, since dungeonflows are not syncd. Player one entered LC_Office dungeon flow, Player 2 fell through the floor and ended up in Facility Dungeon flow.

The LLL config will continue to get more and more corrupted untill the game breaks.

[hearty frost]

I jsut downloaded this and don't see a manifest?

[solar girder]

?

wdym

[solar girder]

oh your doing it from profile

go to BepInEx

[hearty frost]

Ow nvm

ignore me I forgot to split your pack up haha

[solar girder]

so i should put other modpacks on opposite order?

or update them orderly?

[hearty frost]

It doesn't matter what order you put it in 😛

[arctic sonnet]

Can I get a dependency list

[solar girder]

u sure?

cause last time i checked when i put Extras below core it uses lower versions

[arctic sonnet]

@analog snow

[solar girder]

but when i put Extras above core it uses newer versions

[arctic sonnet]

IS THAT 237 MODS???

[analog snow]

It works. 😛

Yes

[arctic sonnet]

and out of... 237 mods.... I repeat, two - h u n d r e d, and thirty seven

you poke potatoe -w-

[solar girder]

im gonna put it like this

to see if that fixes the issue

[analog snow]

lol yes believe me I am very rigorus.

I have done the run arround and the testing.

[hearty frost]

Bro said AC is breaking my game, none of the 236 other mods could possibily do this (Whilst havning several game breaking mods installed)

[arctic sonnet]

Ok, your LethalExpansion is disabled, correct?

[analog snow]

correct

[arctic sonnet]

And I mean - literally disabled. Don't tell me "LEC disables it" - no, Disabled-disabled.

[analog snow]

because it can be a dependancy for some mods I leave it enabled. LEC bypasses its injection with its own version.

[arctic sonnet]

No.

Disable it in R2.

That button, That way <---

and leave it like this. Kill its config.

Also, kill teh config of LLL if you haven't in the last 1-ish months. Shouldn't cause an issue if you haven't edited anything in there anyways.

[analog snow]

I kill the LLL config almost daily while working on this modpack every day

[arctic sonnet]

If you did edit stuff in LLL... then hopefully you don't need to do that.

good.

[nocturne plinth]

interesting

[arctic sonnet]

Test just with LE disabled.

if that don't work... lord knows.. let me keep digging in this list

[analog snow]

config was killed long ago since it does not run when LEC is present it does not regen its config.

I am willing to test anything but I will be very supprised it this changes anything.

[arctic sonnet]

You can uninstall dissonancelagfix. Mirage does that.

[analog snow]

oh good to know. I know it was removed as a dependancy I was not aware it was integrated.

[solar girder]

yeah this seem alright

[arctic sonnet]

Honestly source, give me a code. This list is literally too large for me to look at through any text editor.. lol

[analog snow]

np

018de25e-123a-4b37-de7f-ac2ff737087c

I will now try advanced company with LE disabled

[analog snow]

Also would you be able to tell me what game breaking mods are here so I know what to look out for?

My goal is to create a stable feature rich pack.

[arctic sonnet]

It's not just AC WITH LE in that darn pack 😅 ... ... This pack is so damn huge I've been downloading it since this damn code was placed and I'm 85% done

There are so many damn mods, I feel disoriented just seeing this damn list... this is excessive, and I thought my pack was excessively large ., .

It takes 1 spray paint mod to ruin the universe. It takes one sound mimicry mod to conflict with a perk system.

[analog snow]

Imagine editing all the configs so there is no overlap and balancing everything 😛

[arctic sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thurston-waffles-meow-gif-15637283

[analog snow]

Literally been my life for the past few weeks 😛

[arctic sonnet]

I lose myself to less than 130 mods

configs of those alone are tedious

you've put so much on this damn plate, I don't even know if it'll be plausible to figure it out if it isn't that LE step I told ye

It looks like at least 5 mods are syncing configs/things

[analog snow]

Well the only two big changes I have made in the past 2 days are Adding AC and updating to Diversity 2.0

Everything was stable up till that point.

[arctic sonnet]

you assume those are the big changes. Let me tell ya, there are some smol mods that fuck shit up - u-

[analog snow]

Removing AC fixes the LLL config corruption.

[arctic sonnet]

I also can't finish downloading this darn pack, it's stuck at 100%

[analog snow]

True but most of them do not access the same files.

[arctic sonnet]

as I sent that- finally finished

[analog snow]

Just wait

[arctic sonnet]

I just HAD to check this: ... You would NOT be the first I've heard/seen this done

LC_API gives you that modlist message. The mod that is ONLY dependent on it - removes it

ye can nuke LC_API

WeatherTweaks could cause things- I don't know where or how, but I heard that mod being talked about somewat recently..

[analog snow]

Oh i had some terminal mods that used LC-API I guess they migrated. this is good. 2 mods to delete 😛

[arctic sonnet]

I also can't even find weather tweaks as a mod?...

what the hell is WeatherTweaks?...

[analog snow]

Weather tweaks fixes weather desync in LLL

Also adds variable weather support

[arctic sonnet]

It's owned by "mrov" - but they don't have it on their page: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mrov/

why is this mod hidden ., .

[analog snow]

@simple spruce What happened to Weather Tweaks

I just talked to him about it today XD

[hearty frost]

That's a fine sentence considering you're trying to solve issues with LLL KEK

[arctic sonnet]

🤣 ...

Look, we're getting down to the bottom of this.

[analog snow]

Hey I did not make the mod. I just installed it.

[arctic sonnet]

Also, as we're doing this - test the darn LE stuff with a friend rn

[analog snow]

Plus I have talked to Batby about it.

[arctic sonnet]

test it <_<'

[analog snow]

Already did. Broke immediatly wether LE was on or not.

[arctic sonnet]

the hecc do u mean broke immediately ._ .

[analog snow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/133839601067491338/1211441096379605002/Screenshot_2024-02-25_173358.png?ex=65ee3570&is=65dbc070&hm=dd95ed9f0f653b77a9854ebefe84af746227139deb0a6d230e50d3c157978bec&

17-18

[arctic sonnet]

yeh that happened with me before

nuked config - looks fine . ,.

[analog snow]

not really fine

[hearty frost]

Happened with me when I had LE installed, Removed LE and deleted and regen new config - hasn't happened since for me

[arctic sonnet]

I even reported on it - questioned the dev what issues could come from it... didn't really get a response at all

[simple spruce]

i've did an oopsie, resolving this rn

[arctic sonnet]

hell, I could probably dig those images right now..

like that ^

[nocturne plinth]

ahah

[analog snow]

it seems like you guys are more interested in telling me I am doing something wrong then helping me find it constructively.

[arctic sonnet]

Nuked it, and my config now simply looks like this:

I'm simply stating the config nuking works ., .

That LLL right there, is with LEC, with LE disabled, with AC, loaded into saves.

So I can confirm to you - AC functions and does not touch LLL in the way you see.

I am trying to figure out useless mods, problematic mods, and trying to figure out if you have a conflict o -o

[analog snow]

ok so. What you are saying is by removeing LE, LEC, and its moons the problem goes away.

I can test this.

[arctic sonnet]

No, Remove LE. Keep LEC, and its moons. . ,.

For me, mine is simply disabled.

it has never launched active in my pack.

(But I keep it in there disabled so other mods don't update and shove the dependency back in)

[analog snow]

Oh ok. in this case. the config still gets corrupted every time 2 players load into a lobby.

[arctic sonnet]

🤷‍♂️ ... Dunno. Ensure you tell lesslogs to allow every mod to release all info 'n try to spot an error when generating the moon

or see if ye can poke LLL to see if they wanna figure it out o- o...

[eternal mauve]

wait, no, as long as you have LEC, LE should be disabled

[analog snow]

ill just turn off less logs and see if I can get more information. The problem is that I have few red errors in the pack to trace, and the yellow errors are more so required cleaup from other mods or text about mods looking for other compatable mods.

[arctic sonnet]

yeh, disable lesslogs and tell bepin to get "All"

[eternal mauve]

the "corrupting logs" issue is related to LLL?

[arctic sonnet]

that'd probably be faster

[analog snow]

Thats what I said earlier. LEC does not allow LE to load.

[eternal mauve]

indeed it doesn't, nor does it create any config files or anything of the sort.

[analog snow]

yes correct

[analog snow]

How do I tell it to grab all logs?

[arctic sonnet]

Here's a question - if LEC covers all bases required for all the dependencies, and is known to cause confliction with interior generation, why would you let LE even be enabled if it's deemed useless <.<

in bepinex.cfg

Set this to "All" Under Logging.Console

as well as logging.disk

[analog snow]

For a couple reasons. I have had issues without it previously. Having it present fixed them. Some mods require it as a dependancy (Less necessary now as R2 allows you to have mods enabled without their dependancy)

I have had problems without it and it was causing no problem just existing, so I have been keeping it there until moding enviroment grows and the cream of the crop win out.

[arctic sonnet]

Until they flawlessly function with others, everyone has to migrate to one loader. Which, to me, will be LLL that I vouch for . ,.

given how they don't seem to be working together even nowadays, I suppose it's impossible for them to work hand in hand since they mess with the same stuff

[simple spruce]

will be back in 10'

[analog snow]

This is what I see happening as well.

[arctic sonnet]

doesn't help that it (Basically) is being depreciated. It has updated a few times recently, but it still is going that path

unless someone picked up the mantle

Haven't really looked into if they found someone to handle it or not

Honestly, after the stuff I told ye - I give up already. There's way too many things in here 😵‍💫 ... I will however peruse the list to see if any look good -w-'

but get them logs, see if anything jumps out - and then give it over to the appropriate dev

[analog snow]

Oh deffinitly.

I appreciate the help. Thanks for looking at it.
Hopefully it is what I think it is and we find the bug and get it fixed.
Better to have a lead when chasing bugs.

[arctic sonnet]

Also, This is not me downplaying this specific mod or their dependencies... but...

There has been more people's packs I see with LethalNetworkAPI (And the darn map LC_Office) comin' up with issues than packs without it to me in the last two or so weeks...

personally i'm questioning why a map dev has a network syncing thing... when LLL and whatnot already does that... but maybe there's something in the modding world I'm not understanding around that

In fact... office also uses LLL?...

the hecc does this network api do?..

[analog snow]

It may have calls that the default LLL does not. For example I know that Factory X has a moving elevator but can not sync it to the player.
However Office has an almost flawless elevator. Which would have to constantly update the players position. I imagine that is what it is for. But it is just a guess.

Piggy has big projects in mind but is slow to flesh them out. So for a while their mods have been bug ridden yes. But they are putting in hard work to add and stabilise them. I imagine we will see some great things in the near future.

[arctic sonnet]

I like the look of this actually- https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/fumiko/CullFactory/

Anythin' to boost performance is a + in my book... solid idea

[analog snow]

Yeah this is the only way some of the moons have decent frame rate.

[arctic sonnet]

It does sound like it potentially can cause the culling of rooms far away through multiple doorways, which could cause an issue with either a bracken or not realizing a thumper detected you half a state away

[analog snow]

Its is only visual

all of the ai and the mesh still exists

[arctic sonnet]

so you could see the AI just floating

down a culled room ?

[analog snow]

no

it stands on solid ground

I have reported issues with it in the More Interriors Bunker interrior where you stop being able to see the room your in. You essentially get Xray

[whole forum]

It culls based on doorway vis calculation

Or distance based if the dungeon is blacklisted

[arctic sonnet]

hm... ...

[analog snow]

yes, if the doorways are offset or other culling isues are present

[arctic sonnet]

This has given me like a 30% odds of me not wanting to consider it XD...

[analog snow]

its great. Just with every mod right now. Its in a development phase

[arctic sonnet]

Like, I don't mind if it culls a room 3 rooms down some long hallway, as long as the enemies are always rendered so you're not screwing up by staring at a bracken or not realizing a thumper saw you

but the biggest issue is if it doesn't* cull properly

[whole forum]

For most interiors it's perfectly functional

[whole forum]

Enemies aren't rendered but they still do the same logic, they don't care about whether something is rendered or not

[arctic sonnet]

is it a very noticeable FPS increase to warrant potential bad culling from time to time?

[arctic sonnet]

so entities are always visible?

and I mean 'visible' as in - it isn't culled by this mod

or does the culling make everything within it also not visible

[analog snow]

Soooo log does not have a single error.

[arctic sonnet]

I am caring about a "edge" case situation here that I know probably won't happen more than once per session - but I care about all these edge cases.

[analog snow]

Nothing is erroring. The mods think everything is happening as it should. Its just the Lethal Level Loader config is being over populated.

[arctic sonnet]

a session or two ago, I've had a hallway and chain of rooms in default facility span so far that I couldn't render the end of it.

[shrewd breach]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/FlowerWater/WatermarkRemover/ there is now

[whole forum]

Not actually fully sure about how enemies are culled, prob best ask that Dev in their thread

[solar girder]

didnt work

im gonna try using older versions and see what i did wrong

[arctic sonnet]

i feel like ye gotta ask this in a different channel at this rate o- o .... is there a channel specifically for modpacks dev help? . ,.

[solar girder]

even my old modpacks are affected

i donno what TS app is doing

[arctic sonnet]

I may definitely add this- 🤣 ... https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/bozzobrain/BetterDoorWarning/

I wonder how the mod fixes that...

[eternal mauve]

Nono, all mods that have LE as a dependency function exactly the same with LEC enabled/present.

[analog snow]

Hmm is there any reason to have LE installed now anymore then?

[arctic sonnet]

All mods that use LE (almost all... I can't really guarantee state all) - LEC has what they need

[eternal mauve]

Nope! It’s not needed at all

[arctic sonnet]

LE only gives like... a moon and a config to change a few things that many other mods can alleviate

Also, one more thing I'mma point out about the pack @analog snow

[eternal mauve]

Well I guess if a mod uses some sort of other mechanic that LE uses then yes but I’m like 99% sure no mod does that.

Custom Scrap is taken care of in LECore too

[eternal mauve]

I’m pretty sure that config doesn’t actually do anything if LE isn’t active

[analog snow]

??

[arctic sonnet]

You just have a huge list- so I'm ensuring I state it properly =w=' ... But currently you have MoreItems

AC messes with item limits too

and I'm trying to see if you have any other mod that does so

I was like 99% certain generalimprovements did, but I guess I'm recalling lethalutilities instead

[eternal mauve]

Oh yeah MoreItems isn’t needed! Both GI and AC do that for you

[arctic sonnet]

speaking of which- god damn I gotta fix the pack.... hecc.. I need to find a door-locking mod...

[eternal mauve]

Ooh, EnhancedLockpicker?

[arctic sonnet]

so distracted with theirs - I forgot to continue hammering mine -u-'

no no, gots to be key-locking

[analog snow]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/MrHydralisk/EnhancedLockpicker/

[arctic sonnet]

also I swear I heard that mod causing issues

conflicts with something

[analog snow]

let me know if you figure it out.

[eternal mauve]

When you hear that? Fairly sure it works well. It might have conflicted with a custom dungeon at some point

[eternal mauve]

I think GI has that no?

“Allow keys to lock doors” option

[brisk token]

I've been using EnhancedLockpicker for a while, no incompatibilities found while using it

[arctic sonnet]

I specifically recall talking about locking doors - then the discussion went to that one, but I then was told they used it to only reduce the time it takes to lockpick since the locking was bugged

Somethin' was buggin' the locking functionality - but this was a discussion a bit back

[analog snow]

I have it disabled on GI, just because it was working here atm. I had plans to remove it. Was going to and let Gi Have it but I noticed it was done by AC as well. Before I could work out who was going to have the item job I had other bigger issues to worry about XD

[arctic sonnet]

what was i using utilities for if GI has the functionality?... hold up..

[eternal mauve]

Looks like it’s fixed now

[arctic sonnet]

Does what, item limits?

XD...

[eternal mauve]

Is shah shah

[arctic sonnet]

they did item limit stuff like... a long while back

[analog snow]

Increases max capacity of ship to 999 items.

[eternal mauve]

I messed up xD

[arctic sonnet]

Also- guys

where the hell in GI can you lock?...

[analog snow]

no where

only unlock

[arctic sonnet]

which- btw

I repeat for you guys to learn-

LethalUtilities locking function + GI Use-keys-from-inventory function = Bad

Never ever let that happen.

It's super-bad interaction XD

[eternal mauve]

Ohhh lethalUtilities does it hrm

[arctic sonnet]

Yeh- but @wide zealot the almighty never-failing modpack creator (😉) told me Utilities can cause issues

so I'mma bout to nuke utilities once I get the appropriate mods to replace stuffs

and your pack just reminded me of that with this 🤣 ... https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Wolf11221/SpaceShipDoor/

that's one of the functionalities I'd lose with Utilities

[eternal mauve]

Love that lil mod :P

[arctic sonnet]

I love never letting people in the session know it exists

[eternal mauve]

Is lethalUtilities really that bad though? It seems just generally useful

[arctic sonnet]

I mean... over half the configs I have set to false anyways 🤷‍♂️ ... and I got 0 clue what's breaking my pack in a single aspect

[eternal mauve]

Oh actually you might be misunderstanding! The mod you linked just lets you open the door to see+walk outside, and anOther mod lets you eject everyone when someone presses the button :P

[analog snow]

What utilitys mod?

[arctic sonnet]

oh no no, utilities just opens the door but you can't walk outside

it warps you back into the ship if u pass the doorway

The "scare" factor is people never expecting it to work

[eternal mauve]

Ohh gotchu!

[arctic sonnet]

and it just opens to space and they go "OH-"

[eternal mauve]

LOL

[arctic sonnet]

I live for the little heart drops

honestly my weakness is somebody missing a parkour jump and they get cutoff saying something

[eternal mauve]

SpaceShipDoor lets you walk outside too so it’s really nice :P

[arctic sonnet]

I've heard 20+ times that happen, and it fucking never fails to make me cry laughing

[eternal mauve]

I need to see what else LethalUtilities does tbh

[arctic sonnet]

"oh-" ded

[eternal mauve]

True hehehe >:D

[arctic sonnet]

Currently, my utilities allow... Boombox to play in pocket, Boombox continued to play when thrown down via death, Keys to lock doors, Slightly better spray paint stats... Ship door can open.. and that's it