[Deprecated] Advanced Company

[sour jolt]

I'll begin verifying the files

[solar girder]

If possible

[rocky granite]

Just reinstall AC

It’s nothing to do with LC itself

[sour jolt]

Seems all fine

[solar girder]

And deleted the config for a fresh one

[rocky granite]

Yes

[sour jolt]

I'll try that too now

[solar girder]

And deleted AC configs

For a fresh one if the old one is corrupted

[sour jolt]

Didn't work

I'll try doing it again with the other mods off

[solar girder]

Hmm

[sour jolt]

Same result

Time to make a new r2modman profile and see if that changes anything

[solar girder]

So did u do this in order?

1. Deleted AC
2. Deleted AC Configs
3. Launch game
4. Stop Game
5. Reinstall AC
6. Launch game
7. Check for log errors to fix your issue easier

(All steps must be done without other mods)

[solar girder]

Alright

Sometimes it could have been other mods configs that conflicts with others very very rare tho

[sour jolt]

still breaks

Fresh profile, just AC

[rocky granite]

Yea that’s something on your end then

I’m having an issue like that with a different mod

Works fine for everybody except me no matter what I try

[solar girder]

What if u try a Modpack?

From someone else who already has a very stable one?

And test?

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheHorizonCreations/HideNSeek_Company/

[sour jolt]

Opening the portal terminal floods the console with this

Stack trace:
AdvancedCompany.Terminal.BoxedScreenXP.GetText (System.Int32 availableWidth) (at G:/Unity/AdvancedCompany/UpgradeCompany/Terminal/BoxedScreenXP.cs:14)
AdvancedCompany.Terminal.Applications.PerksApplication.Update () (at G:/Unity/AdvancedCompany/UpgradeCompany/Terminal/Applications/PerksApplication.cs:321)
AdvancedCompany.Game.MobileTerminal.Update () (at G:/Unity/AdvancedCompany/UpgradeCompany/Game/MobileTerminal.cs:408)
AdvancedCompany.Game.MobileTerminal.Update (GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB __instance) (at G:/Unity/AdvancedCompany/UpgradeCompany/Game/MobileTerminal.cs:74)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::Update>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)```

[solar girder]

Btw you might have to turn on Portable Terminal on Game tab

It's disabled by default srry

[sour jolt]

My doubts are very high, but i guess i'll try

[solar girder]

Alright 👍

This Modpack contains no errors

I had a lot of people use it and give me feedback

Neither me or them were able to find console errors

[languid dawn]

Just updated my modpack that's centered around AC. It significantly enhances gameplay while utilizing as few mods as possible for maximum stability 👍
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Wagmi/CompanyEssentials/

[sour jolt]

Sike!

Stack trace:
loaforcsSoundAPI.Behaviours.AudioSourceReplaceHelper.Start () (at ./Behaviours/AudioSourceReplaceHelper.cs:20)```

(Though idk if it's from the modpack or not)

[sour jolt]

One problem

There is no one i can join who has this mod pack so i can't test the same sequence of actions

All the online lobbies are incompatible for me now

[solar girder]

Oh

I thought you were gonna solo test it

[rocky granite]

It’s a weird AC incompatibility that’s being worked on

[solar girder]

But yeah this Modpack requires everyone to have it to play if

[solar girder]

LoaforcsSoundAPI is still being worked on

Tho I shouldn't be too surprised an error was found

I doubt it's LR this time

But yeah should be fixed in a few updates

On an older version it's has 0 errors cause LoaforcsSoundAPI wasn't installed

But LoaforcsSoundAPI shouldn't be a big issue so I'll leave it

[sour jolt]

Nah i always tested by joining random lobbies and leaving

I never really bothered running more than one LC instance at once

[solar girder]

I should probably mark version 1.8.8 - 1.9.2 as versions that have no errors cause they never used LoaforcsSoundAPI cause LR didn't get updated

[solar girder]

I see

You should get someone to join u and test

[rocky granite]

Anyone know what this is about

[hearty frost]

Nothing you can do about it, LEC using old fork of LE and looking for that version. 😛

@covert notch https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/AENIEMA/Stable_AC_Modpack/

Updated it, hopefully everything all good now!

[rocky granite]

Oh it's that error

[hearty frost]

Also updated Changelog for last update

[solar girder]

How you do that?

[shy arch]

You update it

[solar girder]

No

[solar girder]

How you do tha?

I thought it wouldn't work since I tried it and everything lost color

Which means it does nothing

[rocky granite]

wdym

just make a "CHANGELOG.md" and put it into the zip of your modpack

Just added Siren Head and Harpist to my modpack. Praying things go well

[shy arch]

I could not spawn harpist dose it work?

[rocky granite]

It's gotten a couple updates

[shy arch]

Dose it work in game tho

[shy arch]

Why did you add lethalhd I though ultrawide is less laggy and better

[rocky granite]

it should

it only spawns on Dine atm

but AC can override that

[shy arch]

Also if I redo the items that spawn and I have 0 should I change them all to 1?

Or is that a bad idea

[rocky granite]

wdym

[shy arch]

Most of my moons items are set to 0 because I added some mod scraps

Should I change all the 0 to 1 or do you think it will break the game

It’s only normal on modded moons but there are still some 0

[rocky granite]

well if you set them all to 0 then you're never gonna see modded scrap

if you set them all to 1 then they're all gonna have an equal chance of spawning which could become super unbalanced

[shy arch]

No I mean I am using a vanilla moon as a reference because most of the scraps have a number and are not 0. But some are still 0.

[rocky granite]

change anything that's not from any of wesley's moons

aka

only change scrap values of the mods that add scrap and nothing more

[shy arch]

K

[rocky granite]

because wesley adds a lot of scrap that's meant to be unique to each of his moons

[hearty frost]

Because it doesn't softlock OutPost31 anymore and it's the only stable solid way to reduce shadowmaps/textures/fogging etc all in one

[hearty frost]

How did I do what? 😛

[shy arch]

your saying it has less fps drops then ultrawide

[hearty frost]

So and so, depends - UltraWide more stable but I need to reduce shadowmaps

[shy arch]

whats shadowmaps

[hearty frost]

Shadows? lol

[solar girder]

I'm not talking about that

Whole different thing

[rocky granite]

well you replied to the screenshot of his changelog

[solar girder]

It's better to explain on PC then on mobile

[solar girder]

Yes not for zip reasons I already know everything about those

But for the Changelog inside itself

[rocky granite]

?

[solar girder]

I said it's better to explain on pc

So I can send ss

[solar girder]

This

How u make it work since for me when I use it, it makes everything white in the code telling me everything will do nothing?

[languid dawn]

You surround the word with one set of backticks

For example: Updated modname mod

[hearty frost]

Just do `` ?

This

[solar girder]

Ik

I was just wondering how his works and mine goes white text meaning no function is going happened which that's probably just the software itself and ChangeLog would probably still work, is what I believe rn

[solar girder]

Oh ty

[languid dawn]

If u use the markdown preview in thunderstore u can verify if it works or not before uploading it

[solar girder]

Markdown preview?

[languid dawn]

https://thunderstore.io/tools/markdown-preview/

paste your changelog contents in there and itll show you how it looks

you can paste anything that's an .md file^

[solar girder]

Interesting

[onyx hill]

Could it be, that the Travel Discount perk does not account for changing the planet's price in AC settings?

I changed the travel price of one specific moon drastically and the price is completely off when I account for the discount rate

[solar girder]

Where did u come from?

[rocky granite]

is he not allowed to ask a question 💀

[solar girder]

God Throne 👀?

Nah I'm just messing with him

[solar girder]

God of war Throne 👀?

[solar girder]

I mean if u want an answer travel Discount doesn't change your settings

Only in-game it does if being used

And yes it works with modded moons

[onyx hill]

yeah I know

thats not my problem

[solar girder]

For example with my experience I set one of my moons to 5000 and with 20% discount went down to 4000

[solar girder]

Oh

[onyx hill]

right that's what I would excpect as well but look

I have a moon that costs 800 and a moon that costs 1000 and at some point after leveling travel discount enough the 1000 moon is cheaper than the 800 one

[solar girder]

Hmm?

What is your perks setting send ss

For ship perks

[onyx hill]

the the 800 moon was originally only 350, so my theory is travel discount malfunctions and chips off the 350 percentages off the 800 price

[solar girder]

Not ingame but before you host

[solar girder]

Hmm if anything goes wrong it's best to check consoles

[onyx hill]

it's not something that would be caught in consoles

(if it is caused how I assume it is)

[solar girder]

Typically most of every type of these are mostly to be sent to the consoles

Consoles are a really powerful source of fixing bugs

[arctic sonnet]

From a "This is fixable" to "Just nuke the damn thing"-

How would u rate that wall of errors -u-

[wide zealot]

I've not seen Coroner do this, is there a conflict somewhere?

[arctic sonnet]

You tell me

Maybe it's AC 🤣 ... Maybe it's god damn general improvements. Lord knows no conflict makes sense anymore, so I cannot tell you what this is

[wide zealot]

I use both AC and GI

Haven't had that

[arctic sonnet]

Me too. I have this. -u -

[wide zealot]

Idk how many mods you have tbf

[arctic sonnet]

It's only Coroner though - so I'mma assume... assume - Coroner can't screw up anything outside of death messages

[lapis patio]

I had this issue got rid of coroner for more death notes

[arctic sonnet]

is it more stable

[lapis patio]

Imo but I'm not logistically sure

[arctic sonnet]

I won't nuke away coroner for this atm, because it looks like it's failing to find like... translations... I think

which I don't mind - I only care for English atm.

[lapis patio]

I just don't like red text in the console 🤣

[arctic sonnet]

same

but some happens ... even during launch <_<

Lookin' at you lethalthings >:x ...

[wide zealot]

Lethalthings doesn't throw any errors for me

That's probably a conflict too

[arctic sonnet]

@wide zealot I'm sure every damn mod in the world just flawlessly works under your modpack roof >n>

under mine - it's causing issues the HOA wants to throw fits for

[wide zealot]

I wouldn't say that

Lol

[wide zealot]

My mod pack was super unstable at one point and the game would break in so many weird ways it took a bit to make it stable

[arctic sonnet]

Something to do with gremlin energy

and "Poweroutletstun"

throws errors

[wide zealot]

I wonder what could even be conflicting with those

[arctic sonnet]

ME TOO~ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

I'd understand if it conflicted with every damn item of LethalThings

then fine - something is causing a mod-wide issue.

What is specifically messing with those 2 things?

And why is it a NullReferenceException

[wide zealot]

Do you have any other scrap mods installed?

[arctic sonnet]

oh by all means, many moons add scrap.

[wide zealot]

That's all I could guess

Could be that then, I don't really use custom moons or interiors

[arctic sonnet]

~>'

but I like moon differences :<

[wide zealot]

Just a guess

[arctic sonnet]

even with the new r2modman - if it didn't take me a good hot minute, I would test disabling all moons 'n mods that add scrap other than AC

[wide zealot]

Is there no conflict checker tool? There really should be

[arctic sonnet]

I wish R2 had like... "folders" or "groups"

so I could put all custom moons under a "Moons" tab under "Installed"

and just tick one tick to turn them all off

[wide zealot]

Would love for a folders addition, so I could throw all the depenencies in there cus they don't count as actual mods

[arctic sonnet]

^

All mods that another mod depends on - I'd shove into "Cores"

like LLL, LethalLib, etc

I'd put those under "Cores" - so they never turn off

[hearty frost]

@covert notch forgot to target my pizzaescape music, will address it later or something haha

[arctic sonnet]

then I'd put mods that have no dependencies and only need Bepin under "Solo"

or "Lone Mods"

[pallid kestrel]

The ability to merge profiles like Vortex without having to upload them would be amazing

[wide zealot]

I never liked Vortex I'm gonna say it

But maybe that's cus I tried it around when it first came out and it was sort of a mess

[hearty frost]

Uploading fix now 😛

[covert notch]

@hearty frost Don't worry, add my music that I was editing if you want, I'll show it to you later.

By the way, I forgot to tell you that I already tried your new modpack, that is, the latest update.
The fps is much better than before.
But I sometimes find that the game freezes just a little when something is about to happen, for example when an enemy is about to appear, when lightning strikes, but only if it happens all at the same time.
but it doesn't ruin the experience since to notice it you have to constantly look at the fps xD

[analog snow]

I had seen an advanced company video with an animated menu screen. Where do I get that?

[wraith totem]

this is a concept we've had for a while

[wide zealot]

Oooh

[wraith totem]

it just never got fully completed

[wide zealot]

I would love that update

[wraith totem]

but folders are most likely a no

letting people categorise things only makes the interface more confusing when most people won't even use it

[wide zealot]

Yeah I like that feature for having dependencies seperated though

[arctic sonnet]

ex-cuse me, where do I turn this on

I'd love somethin' like that personally

[wraith totem]

you update the branch with 12 releases worth of commits and build it yourself

practically everything in the local mod view has conflicts

[eternal mauve]

it does not steal frames :P

[rocky granite]

I finally got everything working
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/CHAOSS/ChaoticCompany/

[meager quartz]

I experience lower FPS with Advanced Company and when I open the personal terminal, the game stuttering.
It may be some incompabilities, but I have no idea

[rocky granite]

It must be incompatibilities or something with your hardware because I somehow got higher framerate after adding it

[shy arch]

did you fix your loot table configs in your modpack

[solar girder]

I believe he misunderstood what mod this was

Or he probably meant a different one idk

But More Company is all I can think of what he said it : P

[rocky granite]

Yea I did

I fixed it 2 updates ago

[rocky granite]

I think he might’ve used more company and meo’s zombie apocalypse

That’s my best guess

[solar girder]

i later found out he meant biggerlobby

mod

and most of the scraps were masked

[solar girder]

i would have thought the same thing lol

[rocky granite]

Ah that makes sense

[tired zephyr]

what's the song that the controller plays before you pick it up? curious since it doesnt seem to be credited on the page like the other songs are

[solar girder]

PotatoePet fav song

the controller model is from a youtube channel

icon

[tired zephyr]

oooh

[open linden]

@hearty frost ur modpack saved one of my friends from quitting LC modded, she used to have so many frame drops and i could not figure out what to do, but ur modpack fixed it for her 👍

[turbid folio]

MoreEmotes can possibly bug out the player if emoting and then pulling out the portable terminal.

It is nothing game breaking for now

[spark condor]

@solar girder Im on vacation right now but will be back working on my pack next week

[solar girder]

alrighty

also ill possibly add more mods to my modpack i dont care about 49 limit

hmm ill try to get more tips from @hearty frost his modpack surprised me

i cant seem to find a mod that remove the console

not that i know of

[eternal mauve]

that is 1000% not because of this mod. I have played with this mod forEVER. the only downside it has is a slightly longer first-screen loadtime (because it needs to run a LOT of code to be able to edit lethal company values)

[solar girder]

mods conflict most likely

[charred axle]

Anyone know of why my Lethal Progression points don't reset on new save files? I now keep all my gained xp from my last run.

or where i'd be able to manually overide it back to 0?

[eternal mauve]

yeah when youre making a save, make sure local progress is enabled (or whatever its called i dont remember exactly) i think its under the "Game" tab.
If it's enabled, XP is saved locally in that save file. Otherwise it carries over, and is a permanent upgrade kind of thing.

[solar girder]

hold on how does this work for Lethal Progression?

i never knew AC works with Lethal Progression to the point it has it own setting

[eternal mauve]

nah i think they're just talking about AC's XP system :P

[solar girder]

no

Lethal Progression is its own mod

[eternal mauve]

oh right yeah

@charred axle are you talking about Lethal Progression or AdvancedCompany's xp system?

(if you're talking about lethal progression you should probably go to that mod's thread :P)

[charred axle]

yeah just lethal progression, new to the server sorry ill look for the thread 😎

[charred axle]

also what do you mean making a save? local progress? are you talking about something in rdmodman?

[solar girder]

nah he was talking about some AC stuff

not related to lethal progression mod

[hearty frost]

You just turn it off in Bepins config

[hearty frost]

Thank you so much that's really sweet of you to say, ❤️

[hearty frost]

I'll try and figure it out, you're right though it's when something loads up like an enemy spawn etc D:

[hearty frost]

@covert notch Updating now, hopefully some of the stutters are solved? Also updated everything else along with it, wont be on now till Sunday ❤️ Hope it's all good! Sorry for constant updates ❤️

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/AENIEMA/Stable_AC_Modpack/

[covert notch]

no problem

[raven kraken]

what is this random music playing in the facility in the walls

[solid pivot]

So, there will be some new options for Save Progress off:

• Individual XP: When deactivated, all connecting clients will get the same amount of XP as the host
• Reset XP: When deactivated, XP wont reset after failure to meet quota
• Starting Ship XP: Self explanatory.

[wintry fiber]

hello. is there a FairAI alternative that works well with AC?

[arctic sonnet]

oooh, will that make it so people who join late aren't debuffed in terms of having less XP now? :o

[solid pivot]

Yes

if Host has 15000XP earned in that savegame all joining clients will also have 15000XP

[raven kraken]

does this mod work with mirage after i do quota it says this Mirage and advancedcompany are the only main mods in the mod pack others is dependencies

[open linden]

https://tenor.com/view/ykwcream-emmaroberts-ahs-stantwitter-gif-27554956

[magic tendon]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Sakura/LandminesForAll/
I use that, it's only mines, it's working for now

[wintry fiber]

nice. ty!

[solid pivot]

If this happens only with Mirage + AC, Mirage is basically destroying core stuff of AC

so I would advise to not use it

Dunno how they damaged that part of AC tho

[open linden]

i havent had any issues with mirage

[solid pivot]

If you get this error tho some mod is seriously destroying AC

There is no lobby, no other players data etc.

No data of your player (XP etc)

[raven kraken]

I managed to fix it changing this config in mirage to true

[wintry fiber]

what is power level and how do i change enemies spawn weight?

[scarlet cave]

each moon has allocated outside power and inside power, every enemy spawned takes up x power and no more enemies can spawn if its completely full, killing removes the power etc

spawn weight might be if you scroll down

[wintry fiber]

nothing down

[wintry fiber]

ah alright ty

[wintry fiber]

damn it's on moons tab and i have to change weight for each moon

[solid pivot]

"WARNING: If you enable this setting, AdvancedCompany won't touch the hotbar at all. This means that the inventory perk gets auto deactivated, all equippable items, including cursed items, will get forcefully deactivated, the energy bars are removed and there wont be any hotkeys for flashlight added. This mode is experimental and there won't be any support for it whatsoever. Activating this option might result in unwanted results as the hotbar changes are a core function of AdvancedCompany. Spawning in and equipping any equipment item might break your game in unexpected ways."

So the ReservedSlots people are silent.

I need to add more stuff which is getting removed tho

If you have this setting on, I dont care for your feedback btw. I add this in the most basic way imagineable and I wont work on it any further

If it doesnt work for you, bad luck for you

[open linden]

💅

as u should

[open linden]

also i never got that error even with penalty on false

[rocky granite]

Tbh I use fairAI with AC and haven’t noticed an issue

Not sure what about it makes it incompatible

[solid pivot]

You never used Bulletproof Vest then

[rocky granite]

Oh that’s what it is?

[solid pivot]

And if you have, you basically used a cheat item then

[rocky granite]

O h

[solid pivot]

Bulletproof vest wont lose durability

[rocky granite]

Looks like I’ll be updating my modpack soon lmfao

[wintry fiber]

time to use bulletproof vest and fairai

potatoe can you add a setting to change spawn weight of something on all moons?

[open linden]

jokes on u

[wintry fiber]

yk what, it doesn't matter nevermind

[solid pivot]

I mean you can either deactivate FairAI or adjust the bulletproof vest or deactivate it

Make it only reduce damage by 60% for example, its unbreakable with FairAI

there also wont be 1-0 for inventory access btw

no hotkeys at all

[open linden]

👍

[solid pivot]

You basically deactivate 90% of AC with that option

And thats also how it look in the code. 90% of methods just return instantly and dont do anything

And as thats the case, there is no support from me as the likelihood other mods in your pack are the culprit is extremly high

I dont care for your bug reports when you use that setting. Will also add this to the text.

No bug reports on GitHub, I wont accept them

[open linden]

YASSSS

[solid pivot]

You are not a user second class. You are then a user last class

[rocky granite]

lol

[solid pivot]

[open linden]

is there a way for u to add a copy preset option, like if i wanted to copy my original preset, but also wanted the same exact thing just make moons free in the same preset list so i don't have to make another modlist for just free moons, if not then totally fine i'll deal with it

[solid pivot]

You can select a preset and then click the button on the bottom "Save as new preset"

[open linden]

omfggggg

[solid pivot]

You can also overwrite a preset with that

[open linden]

im actually kms

LOL ty

[solid pivot]

np

You are still a user first class. Only when you click that button you wont be :P

[open linden]

🥺

[solid pivot]

Looking forward to bug reports:
Cant equip tactical helmet

[open linden]

LMAO

[solid pivot]

And then I am like

Users Last class wont get help. Figure it out yourself and think about what you have done

[open linden]

stfu that emote 😭

[solid pivot]

:'D I love it

[scarlet cave]

i can smell the passive aggressiveness everytime you use it LOL

[meager cradle]

The irony of Mirage + AC causing confilicts with one another when on Mirage's page they actually encourage pairing the two mods together

[solid pivot]

Smells good

[arctic sonnet]

I genuinely want to know how they conflict now

[solid pivot]

I mean, I am butchering my mod rn to cater to those people. A little bit passive aggressiveness is the least thing I can give them back

[arctic sonnet]

how do they even touch each other? AC doesn't touch the masked enemies or audio added to masked/enemies. How the hecc do they even conflict

At most - AC touches Masked rarity and power...

[solid pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/godfather-massacre-sad-gif-16810633

[arctic sonnet]

that's like - the only roads they should even be colliding if anything

[solid pivot]

[arctic sonnet]

I sound like a broken record - but It never fails to impress me how mods conflict in this damn game/server.

Never.

[solid pivot]

No time to inspect decompiled F# code from Mirage tbh to look into it

[open linden]

idk i didnt get that error at all so 🤷‍♂️

[arctic sonnet]

This is me when I see a mod touch something it has no right touching-

https://tenor.com/view/math-meme-math-is-math-meme-mr-incredible-the-incredibles-the-incredibles2-gif-20591317

[open linden]

me when i tried to help my younger siblings with math n its totally diff how they do it now

[arctic sonnet]

If you touch scrap - you're a scrap mod. Touch scrap code, do scrap things, no more. -u-

If you touch the camera, you best have a reason to touch the camera for scrap.

Like how AC conflicted with LethalResonance a little

it makes sense. They both touched the same audio stuff - so clearly there's a conflict.

[solid pivot]

This is probably the final warning message:
"WARNING: If you enable this setting, AdvancedCompany won't touch the hotbar and inventories at all. This means that the inventory perk gets auto deactivated, all equippable items, including cursed items, will get forcefully deactivated, the energy bars are removed, customization of the hotbar is removed, there wont be any hotkeys, neither flashlight nor quick access, added and no inventory fixes like flashlight fixes. This mode is experimental and there won't be any support for it whatsoever. If I see you using it and creating a GitHub issue relating to this mode it will get auto closed. Activating this option might result in unwanted results as the hotbar changes are a core function of AdvancedCompany. Spawning in and equipping any equipment item might break your game in unexpected ways."

[arctic sonnet]

Will that be In-game?

[solid pivot]

yes, server decides for lobby

[open linden]

omg pin it to this thread

[arctic sonnet]

maybe ye gotta implement like - a whole "Hover over and a text box appears" element to not make the window so big with that o, o

[solid pivot]

I dont care, its the last entry :P

[arctic sonnet]

Ah- good then

[open linden]

that way when someone comes in and asks ill link the msg to them

[solid pivot]

Its in-game @open linden

[arctic sonnet]

Potatoe always thinking ahead

[open linden]

yea but they're not gonna read

LMAO n still bother this thread watch

[arctic sonnet]

And so will Potatoe when they come in with bug reports -3-

I think that paragraph covers literally all bases

[open linden]

same

[arctic sonnet]

It's the ToS - but in this case, Terms of Activation

[solid pivot]

To give you a feeling of how much stuff is deactivated

[arctic sonnet]

So when it's activated, the items won't even be purchasable - right?

[open linden]

😭

[solid pivot]

Like I said. Its butchering my mod but I prepared for this option for the last months. Added more stuff which I can deactivate, reworked stuff etc

[arctic sonnet]

Honestly, I don't know if you did this or not already - but you should have the config spit something out if that option was ticked or not

[solid pivot]

It was a lot of work so I dont want to hear anything from ReservedSlots any longer. This doesnt apply to flips. He/she is nice

[arctic sonnet]

so when someone sends logs, ye can just Ctrl+F "Inventory Disabled" or something

you probably already thought of that -w-' ..

[solid pivot]

They got why its a conflict of philosophy and we mutually agreed on having it be that way

Exactly. Its in the logs as Error

They get a nice red text

[arctic sonnet]

so not only does it say it ingame in front of them

when they load the save- it logs it as error so no matter what it'll show up if they send it

you probably could create a bot that checks issues reported to see if it contains that error

and if it does - auto closes it.

I have no knowledge of making a bot from scratch - nor if there's github automatic handling of files sent but... food for thought o ,o

Even though I'll never enable that setting, thanks for it potatoe c:

Still don't know why people just won't nuke the reserved mods... I mean seriously - you end up with 10 inventory slots near endgame.... you could have reserved flashlight, boombox, weapon, and walkie - and still be missing out on 2 additional slots that AC gives you at the end

and I kid you not, half the damn time - people don't even fill those slots <-<... Early-game, you do not use flashlights and walkies. Teams rarely even get walkies on their person for the first 3 quotas

if you don't get shovels in the first quota, you're not playing to win -u -

[meager cradle]

Some people get too attached to what they're familiar with, and ReservedSlots happens to be the first of the two

[arctic sonnet]

Have they tried - removing it. And seeing how little it changes the first 3-4 quotas?

[open linden]

yea i used to be attached to reserved until they changed their code that one time n caused too many item desyncs so i had to let it go

[arctic sonnet]

After quota 4 it does hinder because you're getting into 1,000+ Requirements, but before that - literally 2 people with 3 inventory slots can make the quota by making ONE trip

[meager cradle]

I didn't install it cause I thought it was too powerful to just have the slot for free lmao

[arctic sonnet]

I can state this, because I do this myself numerous times =w='

[lost python]

Some people just want to casually have them ig

at least reserved spray paint works with AC perfectly 👍

[arctic sonnet]

👍

[open linden]

really 🤔 hmmmmm

[lost python]

it only appends a slot on your main hotbar

and you can change the keybind to access it so all good all well

[arctic sonnet]

Oh, btw - not that it's really necessary because 10 is more than enough, but @solid pivot - is there any plans on higher than 10 slots?

Somehow-scrolling hotbar? 🤣

[meager cradle]

More than 10 items just sounds like massive overkill lmao

[open linden]

the way i have that as an option but never reach it unless im just testing

most i get is like 7

[meager cradle]

Might as well just inventory the moon at that point

[lost python]

My "-", "=", and "Backspace" keys gonna have a purpose

[arctic sonnet]

In my pack I balanced it to where the "ending" of the normal skills is not the end - but there are levels above their caps. But those skills take like 10,000, 25,000, etc

And when I tested limit-breaking inventory slots, I realize 10 is the highest

if you want 10% more instakill chance, you can get it. For 10,000

If you wanna have the ship save 15% more loot? 25,000 ship xp

[open linden]

what multiplier do u use for xp

[arctic sonnet]

Normal ., .

[open linden]

oh !

[arctic sonnet]

XP rate, starting xp, starting credits - all default.

[wintry fiber]

hello. sometimes my game would freeze after LLL is loaded after switching from morecompany/latecompany to advanced company and removing unnecessary mods

[arctic sonnet]

'n the only balance changes in terms of what would shift the game is that Springs are power 3 =w= ... because they are literally the worst interior enemy in the game

[meager cradle]

Thing is the hotkey for inventory bar is by default assigned from 1-0 on your keyboard, even if you had no limit to it you'd eventually run out of keys to assign anywho and would need to go the same route as smth like Minecraft/Terraria, 1-0 is on the main hotbar and the rest is in an inventory you pull up with a different key

[wintry fiber]

it happens sometimes which is weird

[arctic sonnet]

Backpack upgrade

Push I, sort inventory.

[open linden]

i had to make mines like 3.5x xp cuz my group only plays for like 7 quotas max

[arctic sonnet]

Inevitably, upgrade to Minecraft. You could carry a stack of horns

[open linden]

i made them killable 😭

[lost python]

Me when Lethal Company becomes Gregtech:

[open linden]

like no honey not today

[arctic sonnet]

I was thinking that

[open linden]

i only made them killable with 2 crits

so u have to get strongarms

[arctic sonnet]

but I want every enemy to have a counter and not be OP right? So I made their power 3 - but there is the mod to lock doors.

So it gives players purpose to remember where "useless hallways" are

[solid pivot]

I hope this is everything which needs to get deactivated in the config

[arctic sonnet]

at least the doom one is fine 🥹

I haven't found a single damn cursed item btw

[lost python]

smh

[arctic sonnet]

100+ days played with their existence possible.

[lost python]

I've found all of them, they're very funny

[arctic sonnet]

100+. This is **not **even including me testing things via. my cheat-save to balance stuff out and run around the map and check loot

[open linden]

i get the controller a lot on Cosmocos but i can hear it even when im outside the facility

[lost python]

The controller is probably my 2nd favorite now

[meager cradle]

My only one I found via casual play is, bnuy ears

Me when actually testing it: "Thanks I hate it"

[arctic sonnet]

I agree and love this look. 👍

[open linden]

turning the music down via advanced company settings in-game lowers the cursed item music right?

[solid pivot]

yes

[open linden]

kk i need to do taht rq for my crew 💀

[open linden]

they do enjoy the doom tho just not bunny ears

oooo

[solid pivot]

AC and vanilla inv

Doom item being the only cursed item working

[open linden]

🙏🏼

[solid pivot]

https://github.com/FluffyFishGames/AdvancedCompany/issues/119
@hearty frost you replied to a pirate

A pirate with v45

[open linden]

😭

[solid pivot]

RoundManager.PlayRandomClip(Player.Controller.itemAudio, Game.Manager.Terminal.keyboardClips);
player.movementAudio.PlayOneShot(RocketBootsAudio);

https://github.com/FluffyFishGames/AdvancedCompany/issues/130

This is all I do

I dont access StatusEffectAudio nor UnderwaterBubblesAudio

Sure. AC is such a shit mod that it does silly stuff:

Me, having 7 years of professional game development experience specificially in Unity being paid >90k€ per year for doing so

I have that feeling of leaving modding :D

Doing
FindObjectsOfType<AudioSource>(true)
And wondering about how something might get deleted between Awake and Start

Bloody Amateur tbh

Awake is called wether or not the GameObject is active. Start only gets called when the object is activated

[open linden]

UnderwaterBubblesAudio like 😭

https://tenor.com/view/taylorscvmrag-looking-around-scared-gif-22664235

[solid pivot]

Silly AC

https://tenor.com/view/underwater-hello-im-under-water-selfie-smile-gif-16028538

Can somebody try to use the sound mod and setting lobby player size to 4? :)

Its the only possible culprit

[open linden]

LR?

[solid pivot]

LR?

[open linden]

Lethal Resonance

[solid pivot]

"SoundAPI"

[solid pivot]

yesh

[open linden]

kk

[solid pivot]

I mean I might add that functionality to AC anyway but do it right.

Its a very simple thing to do actually

I really dont get why people all go the AudioSource route

You realize there is GetData and SetData for AudioClip, right?

[open linden]

so do i just load a round on march or something to test it

[solid pivot]

You can actually replace audio files in Unity

True, you cant change if a clip is replaced by a random list of audio clips but doing stuff like this should be done high level with actually patching the corresponding methods anyway

Doing it the AudioSource route is very cheap

[scarlet cave]

how so? what does audiosource do?

[open linden]

🫡

[solid pivot]

Its unreliable. You can load all AudioClips and get their unique asset ID and replace based on that instead.

[open linden]

i didnt get any errors

even when drowning

[solid pivot]

See, its the players above 4 like I thought

Dunno how to fix it yet but I have no time to think about it rn.

Would love to see if this actually works with MoreCompany

afaik we are adding player objects in the same method?

I mean, its the most viable method to do so

[open linden]

i didnt get any errors with the default 8 player preset either 🤔

[solid pivot]

And doing the AudioClip route is the most performant way as you dont add a lookup to every sound which plays. And there is no shenanningans with playOnAwake etc.

Weird stuff :D Its a warning tho

[scarlet cave]

ill try it ig, idk what this error is tho, just loaded the game lol

whatever this is too

[open linden]

o yea i had that too but ignored it cuz idk what it is 💀

didnt see the null audios tho so

[scarlet cave]

neither did I

[open linden]

also just tested just AC with mirage, no errors and still got EXP n its saved

[solid pivot]

Thats the stuff I did today, will do some more tomorrow and then release 1.1.2

1.1.2

• Added new lobby settings to customize your lobby. Giving you the ability when save progress is off to carry over XP when not meeting quota (Reset XP -> false) and all players having the same XP as the host (Individual progress -> false). Also gives the ability to adjust starting ship XP.
• Fixed an error with the savegames not loading correctly when other mods change the item names.
• Fixed some bugs with the controller item not letting you die from death zones and making the controller visible again when climbing ladders.
• Added a compability feature to deactivate most features of AC by removing all inventory patches making it compatible with other mods changing the inventory. You won't get any support from me when activating this option if you don't provide logs showing an error happening when this option is not activated.
• Hopefully fixed tactical helmet lights not turning off when battery runs out for good this time.

[gleaming dawn]

So is the feature of not being able to use a hotkey for held walkies on purpose

[solid pivot]

What feature?

I wont add a quick key for walkies, I think its more elegant by having a headset tbh

[gleaming dawn]

Gotcha thank you. If wanted would the walkie hotkey mod work with AC?

[solid pivot]

I guess

[wide zealot]

Did you ever help Bongo with the specific sounds reporting as null btw

[scarlet cave]

#1186884307332108339 message

[wide zealot]

I will say I think his response was a bit rude and out of hand, Bongo did more than the legacy LCSoundTools and CustomSounds did in a few days lol and I feel like assuming people were trying to say AC was a shit mod was far from the truth. It's more so Bongo just wants to resolve whatever is causing the conflict there between his SoundAPI and AC

I'm not gonna say much more, just know that I think that sort of reaction was completely uncalled for @solid pivot not everyone is out to attack your mod you really should just talk to Bongo instead of assuming that was his intention 😦

[solid pivot]

Sure, AC is doing silly stuff

I wasnt the one in logs AND comments name calling

[open linden]

girl

[wide zealot]

Cus it literally was taken that way

Bongo has done nothing to attack AC

[solid pivot]

Well, I think SoundAPI is doing very silly stuff

[open linden]

n now ur just talking about it in other threads

[wide zealot]

Because I have high respect for this mod and Bongo's SoundAPI to put it bluntly

[open linden]

u couldve jsut kept it to urself n in this thread but no

[wide zealot]

and to see a response like that tilted me and upset me

[solid pivot]

Well, I looked at my ticket and the file linked

to see a file flaming AC

And to someone asking me what the hell my mod is doing

[wide zealot]

If you mean the update Bongo did for now til you guys could fix compat it wasn't intended to flame AC

[solid pivot]

When in actual fact it doesnt do anything in regards to the aformentioned audio sources

[wide zealot]

He just wanted to warn people of those few sounds reporting as null

[solid pivot]

I found the culprit within 3 minutes as always

But I was treated like an amateur

[wide zealot]

I know that was not his intention

[solid pivot]

AC doing silly stuff, what the hell AC is doing etc.

[wide zealot]

I've spoke to Bongo several times

[solid pivot]

Its calling the same method the game does to play audio. Thats about it regarding audio so far

[scarlet cave]

it might be better to not continue down this path, as its likely to cause some sort of argument.

[wide zealot]

In any case I respect you both and I wasn't trying to cause drama elsewhere

[open linden]

well yes ! look at mirage's thread

[wide zealot]

You're blowing shit out of proportion tbh

[open linden]

n u shouldve stayed quiet about it

🤷‍♂️

[solid pivot]

I dont know bongo and the first things I saw didnt give me a good impression. Neither coding standard wise nor otherwise. I was called out for having an anonymized hall of shame

When he is outright name calling

I mean, that was a line even I, the ultra toxic PotatoePet, wasnt willing to cross

Even when asked via DM I never told people who said what

[scarlet cave]

i've been looking, almost every thread, and I can understand where she's coming from, so im issue'ing the two of you a formal warning to not talk about it anymore, bongo can privately speak to potatoe about it if he feels that he accidently offended him or whatever.

[solid pivot]

I dont even call out the chinese translation mod. I do call out that some mods do weird stuff like chaning itemNames

[open linden]

🤐 def no problem for me

[solid pivot]

Sure thing, I am farming my FFXIV fishing rod relic anyway

[wide zealot]

Yeah I'm fine with that

[solid pivot]

Soon its time to help a newb in Bozja :3

[open linden]

n for the record, u probably shouldnt be allowing that kind of talk esp out of nowhere in a diff thread thats unrelated

[solid pivot]

And just so it doesnt get burried: Its nothing AC does with audio. Its the player instantiating which results in this behaviour. I am not 100% sure why it happens but it should also happen with MoreCompany. I will look at it, when I have the time to do so but bugs like those are most likely in-engine because mods are doing things the engine doesnt expect people to do

Its the nature of modding that sometimes you have to bypass some stuff to actually make stuff happen. Especially in regards to scene loading which isnt very versatile from Unitys side :(

[scarlet cave]

and for the record did i not just warn you to end it?

[solar girder]

Was it logs

I tried turning it off didn't work

After a restart

[solid pivot]

Dont do the harmony entry, its the entry below that

Harmony Logging comes first :P

[solar girder]

Oh

[solid pivot]

Yea, quite confusing

[solar girder]

Multi-layer logs fr

[solid pivot]

:'D

Oh yea, I will soon begin active development of my game

[open linden]

yippee!

[solid pivot]

And it will start by incorporating NLog as the logging solution

NLog is love, NLog is life

All hail NLog

And I am also thinking about replacing BepInEx for my game. Creating my own version of a mod loader which just uses MonoMod and HarmonyX like BepInex does but with the ability to determine load order and the ability to manage mods in main menu and activate/deactivate/order them there like in RimWorld etc.

Will have to look into how RimWorld does this

Probably all mods needs a activate and deactivate method

Especially if they do anything in main menu

So only part mods shouldnt change is the mod options window itself :D

But all menus will be extendible easily anyway

MainMenu.AddButton("buttonID", "label")

MainMenu.RemoveButton("buttonID")
etc.

I might make it possible to ignore RemoveButton by using the current Stack and seeing which mod added that and if the assembly is unloaded I remove all buttons added by a mod etc.

But my goal of modability is Factorio and RimWorld

And if anyone already plans to mod my game, get used to Addressables

My game will heavily rely on streaming assets with the Unity Addressables system

(Yes, this means memory usage will be low, even if you add 2000 cosmetics)

[open linden]

https://tenor.com/view/emma-roberts-gif-24780781

[solid pivot]

One thing I am not sure if I can do it

Totally split logic and visuals

Which would enable players to be on totally different moons :P

[open linden]

o wow

[solid pivot]

Its an idea in my internal wiki, but first I will start building the framework anyway

[solar girder]

i missed this whole setting the whole time

[solid pivot]

haha

[solar girder]

i went pass it to

[arctic sonnet]

Would it be off for me to assume there should be like.... a big meeting of sorts? . ,. ... to discuss how to make things efficient - how to call things correctly, what a mod's steps should be to change/access things... etc? I'm sure half the conflicts I've seen seem to just be a modder not knowing how to properly do something that somebody else probably has the knowledge of doing .,.

[solid pivot]

Its coordination hell. Would be better if Zeeks makes the game modable :>

[arctic sonnet]

I'm thinking in the sense of like a "Board meeting". Everyone gets together - questions each other, everyone chimes in solutions/methods they'd do it - and you come to a conclusion that's unanimously agreed on.

[solid pivot]

And define the rules

[arctic sonnet]

Zeeks doesn't wanna hire anyone afaik

Power to them, I suppose ., .

[solid pivot]

I will do this with my game. I will define rules for modding, offering a documentation, full acess to the source etc.

[arctic sonnet]

I do still find it impressive when a multiplayer game - especially with replayability in mind - doesn't have modding as a core focus... but tbh they were solo and probably didn't assume this'd sell more than 50 times 😅

[solid pivot]

Most conflicts will be resolved by having a standard way of adding items etc. anyway

[open linden]

zeekers other games were so good too

[arctic sonnet]

AAA studios (or, now dubbed possible: AAAA studios... lol) who ever think of replayability and multiplayer seriously needs to open the doors of modding as wide as possible when creating their shit. A few games come to mind that could've definitely taken the world by storm had they done so

[solid pivot]

Skull & Bones wouldnt be able to be rescued even by modders

Broken beyond repair

[open linden]

LMAO

[arctic sonnet]

(I love how you figured out which game I referenced 🤣 )

[solid pivot]

Of course. Ubisoft claiming its a AAAA title. I guess A stands for Ass then?

[arctic sonnet]

What a ballsy claim to state that was "AAAA"

[solid pivot]

All people wanted was Black Flag 2. An optional multiplayer mode would have been fine

[arctic sonnet]

'n all people wanted was a solid pokemon game, but now we just have the game that everyone wants instead.

;p ...

[solid pivot]

:D

I mean, we currently experience a big shift in video games

More and more indie games are becoming huuuuuuge

And the old big AAAA studios are falling apart

[arctic sonnet]

Shocker, devs make good games when there aren't a thousand strings attached or parent companies

[solid pivot]

Seems like fun in a videogame is the primary thing to focus on after all

[arctic sonnet]

it sort of urks me how people praise helldivers 2 saying it's the "better DRG" in certain comments section. Yeah, it is. 3x the dev manpower, published by sony, no parent company holding any shares or stocks, creating a sequel to an already successful game... shocker that it's better

[solid pivot]

Seems like people dont want to get teached in games or get spoonfed by ideologies but are seeking fun and when they dont get that fun they simply search it elsewhere. Shocker!

[arctic sonnet]

Whilst DRG has 1/3rd the manpower, has a parent company owning shares so they get to dictate things, they're as indie as indie can get (but can't be legally defined indie)... like- come on guys <n<

[solid pivot]

Seems like people dont really care for spending 1000s of $ in a game with microtransactions and all those FOMO shit after all

[arctic sonnet]

yeah... that's my only gripe about what I see out of that game

[solid pivot]

People seem to prefer honest fun

Having a good time

[arctic sonnet]

there is a predatory nature in it - but it's a low level of predation... which... is sad that I have to state that's a "Good thing"

[solid pivot]

Dark patterns are big in microtransaction games

[fair zealot]

What does this mod do

[arctic sonnet]

we live in a world where a good remark of a game is "There are no microtransactions". It's like saying "This car will deploy airbags when you crash"... shouldn't it always?

[solid pivot]

Buy 1000 coins for 10$
Buy 2000 coins for 19$
Buy 4000 coins for 35$
Buy 8000 coins for 70$
And all items you possibly want are priced at 4100 coins

[arctic sonnet]

Lots of stuff. Lots. ., .

[fair zealot]

Like what

[solid pivot]

Giving you the illusion of a lot of different prices for packages but in reality only the $70 package is viable and you will have 3900 coins left and cant really buy stuff with it

[arctic sonnet]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/PotatoePet/AdvancedCompany/ Read under there

[solid pivot]

So you dont want to waste the coins but buying 1000 leaves you with 800 coins left

[arctic sonnet]

I don't think discord has the character limit for me to explain everything AC does.

[shell wraith]

not possible from mirage. mirage doesnt touch the things mentioned in the error

[solid pivot]

thats $8! Better spend it but you need to buy $40 coins again to buy something nice

[shell wraith]

just wanted to point that out since i was linked to that message

[solid pivot]

@shell wraith I was wondering myself why Mirage should ever touch that. So I guess its other mods conflicting

[open linden]

they need to remove the pay $X for in-game currency and straight up buy it, but i understand its a sales thing

[solid pivot]

But the part which fails for AC there is ConnectToPlayerObject etc. stuff regarding networking

[shell wraith]

its a different mod conflict 100%

idk why removing mirage would make it disappear but mirage doesnt touch it either way

[solid pivot]

And establishing linkage between player and player objects

[arctic sonnet]

The problem isn't even that there is this cash-shop thing. The problem is that the stuff you can pay for, changes gameplay. It isn't just looks

Yes it's a co-op game, but it doesn't make it any less scummy

[shell wraith]

there still shouldnt be an error from mirage in that regards but ill double check when im home later

[open linden]

yea i tested it already n it wasnt mirage

[shell wraith]

oh good to know

[wide zealot]

There's a few mods that touch networking that you really think shouldn't

[arctic sonnet]

Whoever reported an error like that - should check if there's any "event" mods

I stand by my stance: event mods are the bloody worse for packs.

[wide zealot]

I know a great way to have the game decide to bug out and not let you back out of a lobby

and I reproduced this multiple times

LCBetterSaves

It just with some mods decides to break the game so hard

[arctic sonnet]

Screw save mods too -w-' ... I swear some mods seem to have a consistent rep of causin' issues. If I had a dollar for every time I read on some mod "May not play well with [save mod]" or "If you're using [save mod], disable this"

I'd have enough for a few kitkat bars

Which I'm itching for tbh...

[open linden]

do u snap the pieces off or take a bite out of the whole kit kat 🤔

[arctic sonnet]

also 3 saves is enough tbh...

I snap it apart like a human being

-u- ...

[shell wraith]

for the record ive never had issues with mirage + ac so id be surprised if a conflict suddenly started happening

[open linden]

same

[arctic sonnet]

I've used Mirage with AC for about 4 sessions. No errors spit out of mirage, but I did get many masked-shenanigans ... hopefully being patched out sometime soon..

[wide zealot]

I remember someone saying Better Lobbies conflicts with AC but it's never caused me issues

[arctic sonnet]

from them appearing after death... to teleporting issues... etc.

But otherwise- mostly functional ., .

[wide zealot]

Teleporting issues were fixed

[arctic sonnet]

how 'bout their reanimating o ,o

[wide zealot]

The dead bodies resurrecting as a masked is a conflict with TakeThatMaskOff

[arctic sonnet]

I don't even have that :<

[wide zealot]

Then make sure

[open linden]

did u have that setting turned on in the configs

[wide zealot]

You have this set

[arctic sonnet]

Yeh

Well- FIRST I had it at 1%

[wide zealot]

I can tell you it is 100% a mod conflict lol

[open linden]

o

[arctic sonnet]

and it literally spawned like 4 masked out of 10 deaths

[open linden]

😭

[arctic sonnet]

1% doesn't happen that often

[wide zealot]

Yeah that isn't a Mirage issue

[arctic sonnet]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[wide zealot]

TakeThatMaskOff for me was doing that, but it's possible TooManyEmotes could be as well

[arctic sonnet]

Why the hecc would toomanyemotes cause a conflict of masked reviving =- =

[open linden]

i remember there was a patch that fixed multiple masks spawning from one body but idk if thats what happened to u

[wide zealot]

It's causing some weirdness where it makes a masked player count as the real player as well

[arctic sonnet]

Oh I never even had that happen... well... wait actually...

[wide zealot]

https://clips.twitch.tv/StrongJollyJamANELE-yqN0HbawjDw5L5_- See this clip

[arctic sonnet]

with the whole revival and teleport issues - there WAS an instance where there were TWO masked in the teleporter

neither of which moved or looked like their AI functioned

[wide zealot]

That is caused by TooManyEmotes when my actual friend that masked was mimicking got grabbed by a Bracken

Lol

The masked enemy played the animations of a Bracken grabbing it

[open linden]

i THINK mirage fixed that

iirc

[arctic sonnet]

odd

[wide zealot]

I know flip said he has an update coming for TME that fixes a lot of bugs

[arctic sonnet]

For me the issues were like... masked enemies spawning a tad too consistently from death - teleporting teammate's bodies seem to never work.. whether or not they were reanimated - if a masked was teleported... it didn't seem to function - or was bugged/desynced in a few ways (from one person being able to see it, but others can't - to people apparently getting converted from ones they can't see)

Just a bleh mess of stuff but tbh none of that was too game breaking

the whole thumper-being-dead-but-still-damaging was worse

[wide zealot]

The Teleporting issues are fixed in Mirage

[arctic sonnet]

still have 0 idea wtf causes that

[wide zealot]

So you have a conflict elsewhere

[arctic sonnet]

nothing spits an error out explaining any of it :c

[wide zealot]

Yeah sometimes that happens

Do you have any mods that touch teleporters?

[arctic sonnet]

bugs need to spit errors >:c

the mods to touch teleporters are as follows... and I should rephrase: should touch teleporters

[wide zealot]

I know GeneralImprovements has no issues in terms of the teleporter

I use it

That is the only mod I have that touches them lol

[arctic sonnet]

Enhanced Radar Booster, LGU, GeneralImprovements, Teleporter_Cooldown_reset... which tbh I probably should nuke because GI sorta does stuff similar.. but also not really...?... anyways-

[open linden]

i only keep lgu for interns n the wheelbarrow tbh

[arctic sonnet]

LethalThings... LethalUtilities... Backrooms, and that's about it

all mods that in some capacity messes with teleporter or teleportation

[wide zealot]

LethalUtilities caused me a ton of issues in the past

[arctic sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thurston-waffles-meow-gif-15637283

lemmie dig through utilities n see if there's any reason I truly need it kept...

The locking of doors with keys, opening of the ship door in space (not really necessary), .... and that's it tbh. Also boombox playing from teh pocket... and a slight change in making the spray paint better

tis all lethalutilities is bein' used for

all that's really important is the locking of doors as one, and boombox playing from pocket as a not-so-necessary but would-be-kinda-useful second.

I would like spray paint to be a tad more relevant

but I swear I've heard issues with a few spray paint mods out there ., .

[open linden]

ive been using betterspraypaint & enhanced lockpicker just for 2 of the uses u use with Util

boombox i gave up on

[arctic sonnet]

i swear I've heard of reports from betterspraypaint buggin with things

I remember remarking about how on earth a spray can mod could cause a conflict

[open linden]

i think the modder fixed a lot, maybe, i havent had any issues with it since

i remember the paint used to stay on every moon but that was fixed

[arctic sonnet]

#1206390977674354738 message #1200695291972685926 message

I kid you not, there are more instances but the mirage one sticks out to me

what the hecc did betterspraypaint do to cause issues? it literally just paints

[open linden]

i havent had those issues actually

n i use the same interiors as @hearty frost

[arctic sonnet]

I'm down for testing it now anyways... if @wide zealot the god of all that is stable modpacks state they had issues with utilities

[wide zealot]

Wouldn't say that

[arctic sonnet]

I just gotta find a mod to lock doors, and use betterspraypaint, and see if things go south

[wide zealot]

If you'd watched my stream last night we had so many problems

XD

[open linden]

i know that the screen bug upon joining was either a late company bug or more company i forgor

but ac fixed that for me too

[arctic sonnet]

did you ever have masked enemies teleporting to the ship via teleporter but glitch on different perspectives

[open linden]

naur

[arctic sonnet]

or dead enemies still moving in place - that can hurt you and kill you -w-

[open linden]

💀

[arctic sonnet]

and it isn't just like "only one client is seeing it"

[wide zealot]

Didn't have those weird

[arctic sonnet]

Multiple people saw the thumper moving in place

even though we know it's dead cause it dropped the hunter loot from LGU

still nipped people's ankles

[open linden]

OH i remember i had that bug a long time ago

[arctic sonnet]

I recall that bug ages ago too - but for some damn reason, THIS dead body attacks

[open linden]

yup

[arctic sonnet]

previously they wouldn't attack

[open linden]

i forgot what caused it tho

[arctic sonnet]

it'd just be some desync of sorts

The last one that caused it (from my testing) was ... I think hullbreaker

(hence my hatred for event mods)...

always the damn event mods, I swear

Why modify how a hoarder bug attacks as an event mod... ye don't need to rewrite what is already functional ., .

if it ain't broke - don't fix it

[open linden]

https://tenor.com/view/ning2pop-olivia-oliviawilde-head-nod-gif-27421994

[cursive cosmos]

if i use MoreCompany with this, will it override it and let me use the default cosmetics?

[arctic sonnet]

MoreCompany gets disabled with AC. You do obtain the cosmetics.

You're fine to have both active 👌

[cursive cosmos]

awesome

i'm assuming i shouldn't use shiplobby w/ ac though

[gleaming dawn]

correct \

[cursive cosmos]

ok thanks :D

[mellow saffron]

that's a band aid fix for playOnAwake, that's used in lcsoundtool as well

genuinely what TF did I do to make you implode. ac has to be doing more because the issue doesn't show up without it.

[solid pivot]

I already explained where it happens

[mellow saffron]

is this what youre mentioning? then why does the not happen at all without ac installed. stuff geting deleted between the scene loading and start doesn't usually happen

[solid pivot]

There is no place in my code where I destroy any AudioSource And Destroy isnt immediate anyway

Destroy is on end of frame

A unity developer would know that tho

To change that you would use DestroyImmediate which is strongly advised against

[mellow saffron]

could there be any place that you do something that could cause this, because like ive said it doesn't happen without ac installed.

[arctic sonnet]

could either of you Ctrl+F the entirety of the (your own) code and look for a term that could cause this bug .,.

[mellow saffron]

i tried but dnspy isnt the best

[solid pivot]

It should happen with MoreCompany as well

[gleaming dawn]

wait what’s the bug?

[arctic sonnet]

can't open the code in a text program? ., .'

[mellow saffron]

no cause ac is closed source, i have to decompile it like i decompile the game

[cursive cosmos]

is there any way i can disable the changes AC makes to the hotbar?

[arctic sonnet]

I mean, both of u talk it in DMs and tell each other terms that could cause [this error] to Ctrl+F in your own regards o, o

surely you can search the entirety of all of your codes within seconds ... right?

[solid pivot]

Its not as easy as that as I suspect an in-engine error

[mellow saffron]

okay i will test that, this is infintely more actionable then calling me an "amateur"

[solid pivot]

Because AC (and MoreCompany for that matter) does stuff Unity doesnt expect to happen

[arctic sonnet]

So you're saying Unity is weak to an element

[solid pivot]

I mean, name calling isnt very nice

[open linden]

i think next update u can but for now no, what changes do u want to disable?

[arctic sonnet]

||(the element of surprise) - ok I'll see myself out||

[solid pivot]

But maybe I should add some logs to AC stating that SoundAPI is silly

[open linden]

actually switch to dms

[solid pivot]

Nah, thats my last reply to that matter

[mellow saffron]

and it does, and there is reasons for most of the times i have to do silly stuff

[arctic sonnet]

wait a minute is this all over the damn water sounds? . _.'

[solid pivot]

#1186884307332108339 message

Sure. Probably best that I remove AdvancedCompany so you dont have to be bothered by a silly mod

[cursive cosmos]

i'm limited to 3 slots, they look too slim and oversized. also idk what the new slots do

[mellow saffron]

and no doesn't happen with morecompany

[solid pivot]

Then you have your solution there, use MoreCompany. I wont look into this any longer

As AC is so silly.

[gleaming dawn]

you can change how many slots you have when you setup a lobby

[arctic sonnet]

:<

[gleaming dawn]

it’s in the perks section. Make the inventory slots 400% instead of 300%

[cursive cosmos]

ohh thank you

[gritty roost]

since when is silly such a bad word :V

[arctic sonnet]

surely you two can peep through the code, figure out how to forcefully cause the error, and then look up how it could possibly happen .,.' ... also any term can be bad if you didn't want it

[solid pivot]

In regards to what logical code does?

Its basically calling the code bad

I dont care for people insulting my code

I might add my own sound replacement solution in AC using Unitys APIs, actually doing it the right way anyway

[mellow saffron]

there is no way that is in scope for your mod

[gritty roost]

idk, i've called math silly more than a couple of times, and that's as logical as it gets. nevertheless, i would say calling your code silly =/= saying it's bad. If it was bad, the word i'd use is "bad".
never in my life saw someone bothered by being called silly, but who knows

[solid pivot]

Of course it is

[arctic sonnet]

Same as calling someone he or she, a term is only offensive if what is to be termed doesn't like it o- o... granted I've dug through too long of language videos explaining the changing of words that used to be kind to offensive to discuss other example words ., .'

[mellow saffron]

and that's wild, instead of helping an "amateur" you want to completly replace their work

[gritty roost]

even more when it's clearly in not a bad way

[solid pivot]

Why not?

I dont want to get insulted, thats all. So I go the way where I am not insulted

[mellow saffron]

exactly, soundapi does silly stuff, espically with loading configs. but that's because c# doesn't have a ConfigEntry<?> equivalent, theres a bunch of stuff like that

[solid pivot]

I mean, this is pretty reasonable

[scarlet cave]

I am fascinated by this conversation haha

[arctic sonnet]

I'm a little scared :<

[gritty roost]

just mute us all xu 😭

[solid pivot]

I basically only want to not get insulted, thats all

[arctic sonnet]

Have either of you figured out exactly what causes this issue - like to the very line? . x.

[solid pivot]

You can call that passive agressive but its basically just having respect for myself

[scarlet cave]

I'm watching for if an argument ensues or something like that happens, but it's relatively calm

[solid pivot]

Of course it is, I am civil :3

[mellow saffron]

id love to, but ac is closed source but i am trying to look through a bit

[arctic sonnet]

Can both of these mods just be installed - and you have the game spit out all of the actions in slow motion and you figure out where or how it happens

is that not a possibility for the game? .,.

[scarlet cave]

Although I can't say I'm not bewildered by potatoe's thought process, while I'd love to input my own thoughts I don't want my words to come off rudely

[mellow saffron]

like all the functions that get called? it doesn't really help because so much stuff is going to be useless

[solid pivot]

People begged me to add Sound Replacement just a week ago

I was like: Yea, I can do it. Then somebody else did it and I thought: Well, OK. One thing I dont have to do probably

Now I get insulted by that person so I am like: Well, maybe I should go ahead with the original plan of adding it after all

The decision to add sound replacement was made before that mod even existed I think

There was some other sound replacement mod which was horrible or smth

[mellow saffron]

tf, i didn't insult you as a person, i just said that some code might be doing silly things. everyone writes code that does silly things

[mellow saffron]

yeah lcsoundtool/customsounds had a couple of major issues

[solid pivot]

And nothing is out of scope for a library mod like AC

[arctic sonnet]

(I still wonder what those issues were/are)

[solid pivot]

I also added a post processing stack

[mellow saffron]

something in ac causes audiosources to be destroyed sometime between onsceenload and start

[rocky granite]

Ok finally on pc

[mellow saffron]

it might not be ac directly but it could cause something in the game/unity that does

[rocky granite]

What's the alternative to FairAI that's compatible with AC?

[solid pivot]

The name calling is unnecessary tbh. See my changelog for upcoming 1.1.2

• Fixed an error with the savegames not loading correctly when other mods change the item names.

[arctic sonnet]

is it possible to isolate tiny fractions of AC's code to run, to see which section is doing it?... sorta like disabling half a modpack and seeing if an error happens

[solid pivot]

I could have added the names of the mods doing it and name call I didnt

I explained what some mods did and that I fixed it when mods do stuff like that

Everyone reading your logs now think: AC is shit and doing weird stuff and most likely is the source for other stuff as well

Thats why I dont name call

[arctic sonnet]

what mod changed item names . ,.' ..... I am so lost.

[scarlet cave]

That's not the point, he's giving an example

[open linden]

landmines for all

[mellow saffron]

are you mad at the fact i put a warning in the log? i know ac is a popular mod so i did that to inform people instead of letting the error just continue and people thinking its soundapi

[rocky granite]

thank you

[solid pivot]

Exactly :D No need to name those mods. Its fixed in 1.1.2 anyway

[arctic sonnet]

I'm so confused ;w;

[scarlet cave]

I see one way to resolve this

[smoky thicket]

how is this whole ordeal still going 😭

[mellow saffron]

mod showcase?

[solid pivot]

Thing is, I am doing AC for nearly 3 months now

[arctic sonnet]

Because specifically, I don't think anybody even knows how the hell this error occurs...

[solid pivot]

And what I've learned is that people instantly jump onto a mod as soon as its known for "breaking stuff"

[half wasp]

For the sake of conversation, can you post the insult? It’s the first I’ve heard of it

[scarlet cave]

Do you want a resolution?

[mellow saffron]

and i commend you for that, i would explode if i had to work on a mod for 3 months

[solid pivot]

Logging names of other mods and telling people its doing weird stuff is making people take this a guaranteed fact that the mod in question is bad

You know. The logs of an actual mod dev told them so

I was name calling in the first month as well I think, I changed that behaviour. :D

I played into this circle of toxicity. By now I dont come here often and concentrate on working on tickets when I have the time to

Stay civil, dont name call etc.

[open linden]

#1186884307332108339 message

[solid pivot]

I removed the "hall of shame" even tho it was anonymized

[arctic sonnet]

Tis true .,.' Mods outputting another mod's name is just gonna cause somebody to delete it. It's why a streamer/youtuber I watch will never touch a lot of mods cause they keep touching quite broken things ., . .....

[solid pivot]

People felt it was unnecessarily "toxic" or giving those people fodder

[scarlet cave]

The way i see it rn, Bongo apologises for the way he logged things, potatoe has the right to be upset at the way his mod was described and while I may not agree with how he handled it, there is a valid reason behind it, but I also can't see this ending well for the both of you if potatoe doesn't also apologise for how he handled it, just my opinion

[solid pivot]

Of course I apologize for everything which happened after me discovering that in the file :)

[scarlet cave]

Anyway, other people should not involve themselves in this and it keeps going in circles, so unless there's a resolution, there's no point in keeping this argument going

[solid pivot]

It was a reaction to what I saw so if the source of my anger was apologized for I happily apologize for my reaction

[wide zealot]

I also wanna apologize btw, for the stuff from earlier @open linden

[scarlet cave]

Okay, then we'll end it here, if bongo chooses to apologises, bridges can be mended

Otherwise, I don't wanna hear about this anymore

Pixel, stay quiet

[open linden]

me too im sorry

[half wasp]

I am

[wide zealot]

You're all good

[mellow saffron]

how would you want me to write the warning log then? would you rather just me log "A mod caused this audiosource to be null" and nothing else?

[solid pivot]

So I will look into it tomorrow maybe. Cant promise anything. Will have to comment out stuff etc. and see if I can fix it somehow. Lot of experimentation needed

Better land my ship on experimentation then

AudioSource became null between LevelLoad callback and Start. This shouldn't have happened. Most likely another mod caused this.

[arctic sonnet]

Can both of ye work together in dms sometime soon 'n just figure out where or why or when the error happens :x ... This all could be Unity's fault... and so you're potentially poking each other with pitchforks for no reason. .x. ... Mods conflict in stupid ways all the time, who's to say it's either of yours specifically as the catalyst

[mellow saffron]

potatoe said theyll work on it tommorow and im going to finish up the condition system and push an update with the changed log messages

[arctic sonnet]

Hopefully with you... ye both could work together .x.

[solid pivot]

There is this panic mode in my handshake :D

            reader.ReadValue(out ulong magicLong);
            if (magicLong != MagicLong)
            {
                Plugin.Log.LogWarning("Something interferred with the network handshake. Panic mode initiated. Please consider removing conflicting mods. Searching for magic long...");
                var pos = SearchMagicLong(reader);
                if (pos == -1)
                {
                    Plugin.Log.LogError("Handshake message was destroyed by another mod. Please report this to the dev and check your mods. Sorry, we can't continue past this point. :(");
                    throw new Exception("Handshake message was destroyed by another mod. Please report this to the dev and check your mods. Sorry, we can't continue past this point. :(");
                }
                else reader.Seek(pos);
            }
            reader.ReadValue(out int packageLength);

[meager cradle]

Speaking of bugs I need to look at my pack cause for some reason beehives are spawning on moons that have 0 weight for them for some reason, including the company building

[arctic sonnet]

have any event mods?

[analog radish]

It happened to me too, I patched it with EnemyFix

[solid pivot]

:'D Nobody so far saw panic mode at least

This message only happens when something was seriously destroyed xD

[scarlet cave]

Time to ruin thunderstore trying to get panic mode in logs

[solid pivot]

I will see if I can fit some debugging session in my schedule tomorrow, yea. Debugging mods is a pain

[solid pivot]

I dont think any mod so far is changing how Unitys Netcode handles Handshakes tho :P

Besides AdvancedCompany of course

[arctic sonnet]

You assume this.

[scarlet cave]

:C

[wide zealot]

Ther's a few mods that touch game networking

[solid pivot]

If they do, there is still the Magic Long

[wide zealot]

Surprisingly

[solid pivot]

And it the Magic Long was removed then well. Its over

Its oger

[arctic sonnet]

I've seen enough conflicts in this damn game to not be surprised by any conflicts anymore. The only questions I ask is "Why" when it ever happens.

[scarlet cave]

I'm glad you two can find a simple resolution though. To more collaborations :p (and less toxicity, like pls)

[wide zealot]

I will say I ran into constant problems with LCBetterSaves recently making quitting out of a lobby impossible

But it probably just conflicts with my mod pack now, it never did that when my mod pack was smaller

[arctic sonnet]

I've heard enough of LCBetterSaves -w- ... it caused too much stuff, I've never touched it

[wide zealot]

funny enough it started after I added Mirage so I think it conflicts with Mirage somehow

Lmfao

[rocky granite]

i use Mirage and LCBetterSaves and never had an issue

[meager cradle]

I haven't seen any problems with better saves on my side either, I have it since one of my friends hosts the sessions and well, gets too attached to having each run saved

[mellow saffron]

usually happens when it errors out on gamenetworkmanager.disconnect so probably when it tried to do a final save before you exited

[wide zealot]

probably something else then

[arctic sonnet]

3 saves is enough people

3 saves is enough. =w= ...

[wide zealot]

most likely, I don't need it anyways

[arctic sonnet]

if 3 isn't enough - you have the problem of actually having friends

that is a bug report in life rn

[rocky granite]

not when every single one of your friends has their own modpacks that they'd rather play half the time

[arctic sonnet]

Bug report to life itself then

You have too many friends -w -

[mellow saffron]

bro all my saves just keep getting obliterated because i have to do so much development

[arctic sonnet]

Just like too many mods - conflicts happen.

[wide zealot]

Nomorepush I know caused havoc too when I tried it, and coincidentally it touches game networking

[rocky granite]

I have 148 mods and no conflicts afaik

[wide zealot]

Which idk why it needs to touch that

[meager cradle]

Thankfully for my case it's just 1 group I play with and I'm the one that controls the pack

[wide zealot]

JetpackFallFix touches gamenetworking though and is fine

[meager cradle]

My one friend with the fuckton of saves plays between 2, us and vanilla randos

[wide zealot]

so it's just some mods that touch it that do weirdness

[rocky granite]

Yea I wish I could do that, but most of my friends have such poor wifi that it takes them 20 minutes to join my server

[solid pivot]

But since AC wont add sound replacement then you should really look into AudioClip.GetData and SetData btw

[wide zealot]

@mellow saffron think this might be intended for you ^^

[mellow saffron]

i'm planning to support swapping out audioclips at runtime and more setings (like randomized pitch, fadein and fadeout) so modifying the audioclip doesn't really help

i will look into it though, planning to maybe try rip out the current loading sounds from disk cause i think it could be more optimized

[grizzled sentinel]

there's gonna be an update tomorrow?

[solar girder]

what do yall think of my artwork?

im already gonna use it after the mod is finish

[solar girder]

i kinda got bored after 3 hours of making this

so i finish it off here

[rocky granite]

that looks sick

[solar girder]

once RollingEyes becomes a monster we would use that icon

for the mod

[rocky granite]

man

gotta love making a mod idea and then someone comments something that should be added despite it literally being stated in the idea already

like dude if you're gonna suggest an addition to the idea, at least read the post

i feel like people just read the title and nothing else

[solar girder]

we already got a coder and a modeler and a texture and a sound maker

though unsure how the sound progress is going

[rocky granite]

nice

was talking about my mod idea post lol

[solar girder]

oh lol mb

[rocky granite]

not to mention they literally unfollowed the thread afterwards

Modpack updated :)
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/CHAOSS/ChaoticCompany/

Btw @solar girder did you ever finish that tier list

[pearl spire]

I know I’m late but yeah I never play without LCBetterSaves and never had an issue

[wide zealot]

I love how I was checking my r2 and found an old config from LateCompany from months ago I somehow forgot to delete

XD

I normally always delete configs after removing a mod how I forgot to delete that idk