[Deprecated] Advanced Company

[rocky granite]

I do know that there’s a desync issue with the masked enemies between host and clients because last night I was playing with friends and they said the masked was one person, but i always saw somebody else

[hearty frost]

I forgot I need to update modpack again, forgot about Herobrine update >.<

[rocky granite]

I’ve never tried out the herobrine mod

[steady kite]

This is the minus of the update, the profile code always wins

[hearty frost]

I still do both

[steady kite]

It would be cool to wait for r2modman update

[hearty frost]

You can always manual downlaod too

[steady kite]

To update versions in real time without changing the assembly version

[hearty frost]

Manual downloads are instant soon as it's available

[hearty frost]

It's good good ^^

[steady kite]

But when you delete a mod and release an update with it, for those people who installed this assembly, the mod that you deleted will no longer be deleted and will simply hang in the assembly. WHICH IS VERY INCONVENIENT!

[rocky granite]

Might consider adding it to my pack since my pack is intended to be a mix of horror and randomness

[hearty frost]

When you update your modpack people can update with the modmanager.

[steady kite]

@rocky granite It is better to disable these mods

They don't work stably with Mirage, or I don't know something

[steady kite]

I know it

[hearty frost]

Just choose one, not both.

[steady kite]

I'm saying, if you delete the mod from yourself, it won't be deleted from them)

[rocky granite]

Ah ok, I’ll double check that in the Mirage thread

[steady kite]

Creating a new profile every time to update a modpack is not very convenient

[hearty frost]

Life isn't convenient 😛

[steady kite]

Mirage as a whole is a test mod, I put it aside for a while

[solar girder]

Nah wait

[rocky granite]

Tbh I forget what masked enemy overhaul does

[solar girder]

That's not the original mask enemy overhaul

[steady kite]

LC_API, ugh, get rid of it

HideListMode

[rocky granite]

It’s a fork that’s supposedly supposed to be better compatible with mirage

[solar girder]

Fork stops them from multiple spawning for masked etc and AI revamp makes them act like players

[steady kite]

Breaks the weather with mud and rain

[solar girder]

You sure?

[steady kite]

Yes

[solar girder]

That's only for monster

Though

[steady kite]

Check it out if you don't believe me

[rocky granite]

I have that mod since the annoying mod list popup comes up every time :’)

[steady kite]

I wrote a report a long time ago

[rocky granite]

That would make sense. I had a desync issue once where there was no rain or mud for me, but there was for my friend

[steady kite]

Refuse this, it is better to disable the check in Bepl than to use such mods. Any report is needed, the developers don’t like us because of this

FPS-

Conflict with TooManySuits and BodyCam, spam in the console, waiting for it to be fixed

[solar girder]

Nah that's the FPS destroyer

💀🙏🏼

[rocky granite]

The body cam log spam got fixed afaik

Unless I’m thinking of something else

[steady kite]

It consumes a lot of FPS, even in a calm state, I wrote about it, but no one is interested

That's it, I haven't seen anything so bad from you again @rocky granite

OH CHOLERA, IS THIS FREDIFAZBER?

[shy arch]

if you remove a dependence will it remove it in the modpack

[solar girder]

I don't know anyone that uses this

[steady kite]

I don’t know anything about these two, but I don’t like the heavily changing vanilla mechanics

[rocky granite]

Alright, I guess I’ll have to sacrifice the Office mod. It’s one of my favorite interiors but it must be done. Some of the other ones I honestly don’t mind removing like Diversity

[pearl spire]

It’s unfortunate that WeatherTweaks uses LethalNetworkAPI if it’s a big FPS hit

[steady kite]

I tested it once, but after that the developer told me that I was a bad person xD

[solar girder]

Jiggle physics reduce fps only if something is using it in front of u

[rocky granite]

I believe the physics is from my cosmetics mod

[pearl spire]

Or is that specifically when used with LC Office?

[solar girder]

LethalEscape is very configurable with monsters I recommend disabling The Jester

[rocky granite]

Well, not my mod but the one I use in the pack

[solar girder]

He's is very buggy

The jester is very buggy when outside and if given access

[steady kite]

I know this, I was planning to add it, but I just can’t get around to it

[solar girder]

He won't go back after killing 2-3 people

[shy arch]

how do I get the bepinex one in there

[steady kite]

There are a lot of monsters coming out

[solar girder]

I mean before

[steady kite]

But I love balance, so I abandoned this mod

[solar girder]

But after he does only aft 2-3 people

[rocky granite]

Really? I’ve never had issues with the jester outdoors

[solar girder]

No everyone does

[steady kite]

For me this mod is anarchy for big players so that everyone dies

[solar girder]

Even with the mod alone

The jester if he winds up it's game over if u didn't disable him in LethalEscape

[rocky granite]

That’s true

[steady kite]

@rocky granite DELETE

[solar girder]

He will kill up to 2-3 people before going back

[rocky granite]

Yea that one I’ve heard is a big fps hog

[steady kite]

The code there works strangely and just lowers the FPS, although the mod is great

[rocky granite]

I really hope some of these fix their fps issues

[steady kite]

I don't want to offend Piggy and his work, but I collaborated with him and he makes great mods

I was pleased to be a tester for him 👉 👈

[solar girder]

AC is always here to help

[rocky granite]

Yea, I love the office mod. Just sad that it has so many fps issues

[steady kite]

Sometimes the sounds break, but this is not accurate, I got rid of it

[steady kite]

Perhaps there will be an update or its equivalent soon, you need to wait

[rocky granite]

That one used to be inconsistent, but it’s gotten better

[steady kite]

Delete

[solar girder]

Just wise they use a different api

[rocky granite]

Yea I stalk their thread very often 😆

[steady kite]

It is here, find it in the config

[solar girder]

Instead of network api

[pearl spire]

wdym? Unless it was recently changed AC doesn’t do the same stuff

[solar girder]

Oh mb

I meant we as a community

[pearl spire]

Ahh

[solar girder]

Are here to help you

[steady kite]

Out of sync sometimes happens and the springs work strangely, this mod is needed in conjunction with some SCP content, it requires a lot of fixes in the future

[solar girder]

Very compatible with insanity Remastered

[pearl spire]

From what i know the performance hit hasn’t been reported with WearherTweaks, only LC Office

[solar girder]

I wonder how insanity remastered works with diversity people say it's fine

[rocky granite]

I had insanity remastered in my pack a while back, but I could never get any of the events to work

[steady kite]

But it uses the API

[solar girder]

What mod version?

[steady kite]

I just think that the code there is written strangely and it somehow underestimates performance, or I'm crazy

[pearl spire]

Possibly in different ways? idk

[solar girder]

Cause I'm pretty sure event works

I was using Brutal Company Plus

[pearl spire]

just saying what I’ve heard

[solar girder]

And another day used Brutal Company addiction

[rocky granite]

I’m not sure. I saw someone say it was abandoned and I was on the latest version at the time so I figured I would just remove it

[solar girder]

No problems

[solar girder]

Oh welp

[steady kite]

If I use LE and LEC just for custom loot, should I worry about performance issues? Or is it better to sacrifice them and loot?

@hearty frost Well, explain

[hearty frost]

Personal preference 🙂

[solar girder]

Small performance lost

[hearty frost]

for me LE needs a succesor and LEC is out of date.

[solar girder]

Is all I can say for the moment

[solar girder]

Yes LEC was the problem

[steady kite]

Then I'll leave it

[solar girder]

LE is fine

[hearty frost]

LE moons wont work anyway with LLL atm, give or take 😛

[solar girder]

Lmao

Plus LLL improved better then LE moons somehow

Cause nowadays LE moons would lag me alot

Compared to LLL moons

R.i.p kast

[hearty frost]

LLL uses the game that's available and worked from, LE is injecting its own stuff from what I understand

[rocky granite]

LLL is way better in terms of performance, but it’s just annoying that all the meme moons use LE instead

[hearty frost]

The active ones will probs switch to LLL when documentation is available.

[solar girder]

It's basically AC not many people want to use but they want MC instead

[rocky granite]

Yea, I know Budapest (I think that’s what it’s called) has LLL in their plans

[eternal ivy]

BepIn setting only affectes logs of BepIn itself and Harmony.

[rocky granite]

I love AC so much more tbh. It feels like something that should just be in vanilla

[solar girder]

Buddy got a gun everyone RUNNNN

[eternal ivy]

Also, default configuration of LogNeuter does not disable log levels that are most important for bug reporting.

[steady kite]

NavMesh

Does he let all the monsters roam around?

[eternal ivy]

Anyway, I'd double check a mod advice from someone who has to use translator to understand anything. No offence.

[steady kite]

Is there fine tuning?

[steady kite]

:с

[solar girder]

Kittenji moment

[hearty frost]

It's for Herobrine spawning at Company Building, also if any other modder wants to access the navmesh for spawns i.e. Savage Company (in future updates)

[eternal ivy]

I actually mistook LogNeuter with CleanerLogs. Both should be fine though.

[hearty frost]

If you're helping debug/reporting do not use either, only use it when you're trying to see important logs for yourself. 😛

All info is useful to modders.

Plus cleanerlogs does what bepin config does.

[steady kite]

Got it, figured it out, thanks :3

[pearl spire]

Do you know if logneuters remove log feature actually does anything? I looked at it before and if anything it just appears to make logs larger

[eternal ivy]

I don't think it does, as I previously mentioned. But I can quickly check.

[steady kite]

LogNeuter
CleanerLogs

Do they increase productivity at all?

[eternal ivy]

This is all LogNeuter does by default:

[steady kite]

Or all this can be configured in Beplinx itself

[rocky granite]

From what I’ve heard, Logneuter can have big fps increases for some people

[steady kite]

Then I want to return it to the assembly... But the developers will hate me...

[pearl spire]

Specifically using the remove log feature

[steady kite]

The main thing is that he doesn’t break the game

[pearl spire]

But idk if it even works anymore

[steady kite]

RPC breaks Pool generation

[eternal ivy]

You're right, but CleanerLogs is actually better because it only affects logs from mods. BepIn logging affects everything. Unity, Harmony, BepIn, etc.

[steady kite]

It will be easier to delete the log entry in txt in the Beplnix settings

But then it will be difficult to track errors in the future

[rocky granite]

I just disable it when I want to report bugs

[eternal ivy]

Disable what?

[steady kite]

Me too

[rocky granite]

Logneuter

Disable when trying to report bugs, re enable when I just want to play

[hearty frost]

Well you wouldn't need it on anyway when playing as you should have console disabled when playing anyway

[eternal ivy]

Actually, BepIn setting only affects console. Text file still has everything.

[hearty frost]

Not if you turn of disk saving in Bepin.

[eternal ivy]

So yeah, CleanerLogs can't be replaced by BepIn config.

[steady kite]

Well, this is desirable, but for the test and in the future the appearance of rare errors

[eternal ivy]

Not what I'm talking about. Or what you talked about.

[steady kite]

Any information is needed. Sometimes it's difficult to play out that mistake that appears with a 1% probability

[steady kite]

Will this improve productivity?

[hearty frost]

If you run into problem, then you reun debug mode. You don't need to do anything of this if you planning on playing.

[eternal ivy]

You can just open the log file in any decent editor and it will auto update, just like a console.

Console is ultimately for development.

[steady kite]

That is, turning off the console, but saving the log text will slightly increase performance?

[hearty frost]

Console eats resources.

[pearl spire]

I’d love to know what the best combo of log mods is for fps

[hearty frost]

Log filing/saving, eats resource.

[eternal ivy]

Logging would only decrease performance if you're playing on a complete toaster.

[rocky granite]

Yea I’m getting extremely confused reading all this

[hearty frost]

You don't need any when you're playing, console should be disabled.

[eternal ivy]

Or if a rogue mod spams like hell.

[pearl spire]

You can do that??

[eternal ivy]

None.

[steady kite]

Crap

[hearty frost]

Yes.

[pearl spire]

How

I had no clue lol

[hearty frost]

Bepin cfg, go to logging console, turn it to false.

[hearty frost]

Also turn save to disk to false. IF you run into problems, then turn it back on

[steady kite]

In combination of these mods, will everything be more stable?

[pearl spire]

So essentially for best performance you want no dedicated log mods and just disable the console through bepinex?

[hearty frost]

IF you're playing there's no reason for you to have Bepinconsole on. That's why it's disabled by default.

[eternal ivy]

I use those two to make parsing logs easier, not for performance.

[eternal ivy]

It's enabled by default actually.

[steady kite]

should I disable these 2? @hearty frost

[pearl spire]

Yeah i was about to say I’ve never turned it on

[eternal ivy]

No.

[hearty frost]

No it's not, actually Even the ss you showed it's false by default.

[eternal ivy]

If you run into an issue during play you'll have to waste time replicating it just to get a log.

[hearty frost]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-nine-test-results-dumb-dumbass-you-are-so-stupid-gif-14192289

[steady kite]

Then I'll leave it

[pearl spire]

So how come mine’s on if I’ve never even touched the bepinex config before?

[steady kite]

If it doesn't impact performance and log injection that much

[earnest estuary]

is there a way to make this ever work with flashlight slot?

[hearty frost]

Because modders always leave it on by accident when setting dependencies.

[eternal ivy]

Go create a new profile and download BepIn for it.

[hearty frost]

I did, comes with it disabled.

[eternal ivy]

No it doesn't.

[hearty frost]

Mine did lmao.

[eternal ivy]

New empty profile.

[rocky granite]

💀

[hearty frost]

Just incase.

[eternal ivy]

I'll post a video for you.

[hearty frost]

It shouldn't be given to you with console enabled.

I don't need a video. Bepin console shouldn't be enabled by default.

[eternal ivy]

Yet it is.

[hearty frost]

Delete the cfg that's provided with it, then run bepin. Let me know.

[eternal ivy]

...

[pearl spire]

I mean the video shows it came with it enabled

[eternal ivy]

I don't know what to say.

[hearty frost]

I said BY DEFAULT.

[eternal ivy]

Yes, by default when you install bepin

[pearl spire]

Did you watch the video??

[hearty frost]

Delete the config, run bepin, let me know.

[eternal ivy]

...

[hearty frost]

I don't need to ^^

[pearl spire]

It doesn’t matter if resetting the config fixes it

[eternal ivy]

I'm at a loss of words how dumb that is

[pearl spire]

Upon download it comes enabled

[hearty frost]

It shouldn't include the config in first place.

[eternal ivy]

You are going to tell me that everyone when installing mods for the first time will go and delete bepin cfg????

That's the default procedure?

[hearty frost]

If you're setting your own stuff up and want fresh everything, yes.

[eternal ivy]

BY DEFAULT WHEN YOU INSTALL BEPIN IT COMES WITH CONSOLE ON

[hearty frost]

Configs gen naturally on waking.

[eternal ivy]

pissing me off

[hearty frost]

Go actually install bepin not from TS.

I promise you it comes default off.

[eternal ivy]

Watch my video

you dumbass

[hearty frost]

THUNDERSTORE give you a config. You dumbass.

[pearl spire]

That isn’t what we’re talking about though

[hearty frost]

DEFAULT, it's off.

[pearl spire]

It comes turned on when installed in the way that 95% of people install it

[hearty frost]

95% people are sheep. 😛

[eternal ivy]

okay fuck you

[pearl spire]

mf is judging people for using a mod manager lmfao

[latent herald]

a bunch of nerds arguing about mods 🤓

maybe u should both go outside?

[pearl spire]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-giga-chad-chad-gif-23788137

[hearty frost]

Please do.

[steady kite]

Yes, it does the standard config by default

But if the build has a Beplnix config with disabling the console, it will always be a priority

[hearty frost]

Arguing about a TS mod when they've never actually gone and downloaded Bepin.

[pearl spire]

Because literally everyone else in the discussion used TS/r2modman

[hearty frost]

R2 Modman is using Thunderstore.

GO download official Bepin please.

Come back and tell me if console is enabled by default, if it even comes with a preconfig cfg.

[pearl spire]

Dude, we know it comes turned off when you download the program on its own

That isn’t what we’re talking about

We’re talking about the mod manager

[hearty frost]

Y'all got a development console talking about performance, I'm done lmao.

[pearl spire]

Sorry for being new to the modding community ig

[vagrant pebble]

That's a very strange way of describing the conversation that went

"I notice the issue but it's not as bad on my end, I'll take a look at it when I get the time but I can't make any promises since it's much less noticable on my computer"

But ok

[hearty frost]

I'm new to this community too man.

[steady kite]

What about emoji spam? 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛 😛

[hearty frost]

Why do people hate this emoji??? It's only a tongue ._,

[pearl spire]

Yes, but coming to it from different angles that are inherently different experiences

[steady kite]

Gets bored

[hearty frost]

😋 😛 😝 😜 🤪

[steady kite]

When you explain something - in an annoying way and use this emoticon - on a subconscious level a person is irritated and the association with this emoticon leads to aggression

[hearty frost]

I like sticking tongues out 😛

[pearl spire]

This is kinda like being left-handed and then assuming everyone else uses left-handed tools instead of right-handed tools

[hearty frost]

Not my fault people get angry at an emoji

: P

[steady kite]

Well, I gave this as an example

And this irritates me a little, because I’ve always been angry + was born in Russia

Always sad and angry

[pearl spire]

The North does that to a mf

[hearty frost]

Work on your anger then instead of using other things as an excuse to be angry.

[pearl spire]

He didn’t say it was an excuse, he said it was the reason.

Very different.

[steady kite]

No I do not want

[hearty frost]

Then be better. I am not harming you, I am not literally licking you with my tongue. People watch cats all day with their tongues out and think it's cute.

If I was doing this...

https://tenor.com/view/baby-girl-middle-finger-mood-screw-you-leave-me-alone-gif-12370831691995374617

[steady kite]

I'll make it easier

[hearty frost]

I'd understand.

[steady kite]

I will block all emotions in the discord plugin

[steady kite]

And I'll be calmer

I can't create Herobrine to test it :с

[hearty frost]

Just remember I am not out to hurt you, upset you, or anything - there's no reason to be angry over something like this.

Use Dancetools

[steady kite]

I understand this and still ask for advice

For me information is most important

[hearty frost]

Communication is important.

Information follows communication.

[steady kite]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/HomelessGinger/MaskedEnemyOverhaul/
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Coppertiel/MaskedEnemyOverhaulFork/

[solar girder]

Is it just me or does gif always feel like they are becoming faster as more u watch it

[steady kite]

This fix, does it just fix the appearance of monsters? And if I disabled the appearance of masks in the config and made the standard as in vanilla, then I don’t need this fix? @hearty frost

[hearty frost]

First time a gif players it's usually slower xD haha

[hearty frost]

I don't understand this question I am sorry

[steady kite]

Okay, I think I already figured it out

ChatGPT helped me xD

[hearty frost]

Goodstuff! 😄

[steady kite]

@hearty frost Is Herobrine just replacing the girl's model and stalking you? Or is the behavior different there?

I'm just looking at the default settings, like this

[hearty frost]

No it's a new different entity with simular behaviour to ghost girl, does way more other things too! Also there's setting to replace ghost girl in cfg (if you want to)

[steady kite]

It's a pity that I can't summon him using LethalDEV

[hearty frost]

You can with Dancetools

[steady kite]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/thej01/FearOverhauled/
Cool mod, I advise everyone to build and test it

To improve the new mechanics

[eternal ivy]

Doesn't seem to work with AC from my quick test.

[steady kite]

With what?

What is it?

[hearty frost]

We got another cosmetic creator for AdvanceCompany :3

[steady kite]

There are a lot of them)

[eternal ivy]

Advanced Company

[steady kite]

oh, cool then

[hearty frost]

There are 3 that use AC as dependency 😦 Last time I checked anyway

All others manifest MC

[steady kite]

What is the advantage for AC only?

And not at MoreCompany Cosmetics

[hearty frost]

It doesn't download MC when you download the cosmetic pack? 😛

[steady kite]

No problem

Just don’t include morecompany in manifest and that’s it

[rocky granite]

Just double checked with the Mirage thread. Both are good to pair with Mirage as long as the compatibility setting in MEO fork is enabled

[solar girder]

Give me more >:)

[hearty frost]

mans got the fit

[solar girder]

:)

AC has so many loyals and so many haters at the same time

[frigid crystal]

Thats how it is

[rocky granite]

I'm a loyal 🔥

[frigid crystal]

with everything sadly

[rocky granite]

Alright I went through and implemented some of the changes you suggested, Paradox. I'll lyk how it goes

[hearty frost]

Hating is easy, means they don't have to understand anything then and only believe what they think or what they've been told.

I also think hating is lazy behaviour and also a waste of energy imo 😛

and I jsut accidentally turned OutPost31 into a death level ._.

[rocky granite]

Holy shit @steady kite my fps now idles at 70

[solar girder]

Mine at 140 😎

[rocky granite]

How many mods?

[solar girder]

89

[rocky granite]

Ah

[solar girder]

Without 1080p

[rocky granite]

Oh yea I should add the Ultrawide mod

Not that I have an ultrawide monitor

[hearty frost]

Ultrawide isn't jsut for wide ratio 😄

[solar girder]

And make it 1080p you only lose like 20-30 fps same thing as HDlethalcompany

[hearty frost]

I use it for 1080p

[solar girder]

But with Ultrawide support

[rocky granite]

Yea doesn't it add some graphics settings?

[solar girder]

Nah that's only for HDlethalcompany

[hearty frost]

no graphics settings

[rocky granite]

Oh

What else does it do then

[solar girder]

Basically Graphics change or Ultrawide support

U can only choose 1

[rocky granite]

oh?

I'll add it to my pack and test it

[solar girder]

Though I played with ton of people

They don't give a fuck about graphics change only want Ultrawide

Knowing there are probably a ton that uses Ultrawide monitors ofc I switched

[rocky granite]

Is it a config setting?

[hearty frost]

Resoluation/Ratio & Scaling.

[solar girder]

Yes

They default both settings are set to 0

[rocky granite]

Gotcha. Would it be better to set it to Ultrawide support then for when I publish the pack?

[solar girder]

Yeah it's not bad

Plus u can change it to 720p if u want

It will feel similar to 1080p but at least better then vanilla resolution

And still more fps then 1080p

[eternal ivy]

It's useful for any aspect ratio

[solar girder]

Yes

[eternal ivy]

that was for your next message, but you get the point

[solar girder]

Saves people from the pain ugly screen

Which ngl LC should have had it long time ago

Then we wouldn't need a use for Ultrawide lol

[eternal ivy]

you can use both if you disable resolution change in HD

[solar girder]

Ik

But using one is better

I find that I am more laggy and losing fps with both of them on

[eternal ivy]

I don't see the point of using HD when UW exists.

[solar girder]

Even with disable fix Resolution on

[rocky granite]

Alright added it. Gotta boot up my game first though to get the config to show up

[eternal ivy]

You can change res in UW. Disabling post processing ruins the look and breaks some effects

[solar girder]

It basically gives same fps lost as HDlethalcompany but with Ultrawide support

[eternal ivy]

It should have no FPS loss unless you change the resolution

[solar girder]

Yeah

I meant to say that mb

I found that 34% of players use Ultrawide which is a big number for me

Considering the numbers of player LC has

[solar girder]

It might be inaccurate

But that's what I found for myself

[eternal ivy]

What's funny is that LC was not simply made for 16:9, but for 1920x1080. So any res but that one will have some issues.

[hearty frost]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/AENIEMA/Stable_AC_Modpack/

Now to wait hah xD

[steady kite]

I have 156 mods with moons and other things

150-230fps)

[rocky granite]

jesus christ

[steady kite]

I love this mod, I missed it so much

[rocky granite]

what are your system specs

[steady kite]

To know the value of each item

[steady kite]

⚙️ CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D
⚙️ GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 4070 VENTUS 2X OC
⚙️ Motherboard: GIGABYTE B550M AORUS ELITE
⚙️ RAM: Kingston Fury Beast RGB (2x16 GB)
⚙️ Power Unit: DEEPCOOL PQ850M

🖥️ Monitor: Iiyama G-Master GB3266QSU-B1
🎥 Cam: A4 Tech PK-935HL
🎙 Mic: MAONO AU-A03
🎼 Audio interface: Behringer U-PHORIA UMC22
🖱️ Mouse: SteelSeries Sensei RAW
🎧 Headset: Marshall Major III Bluetooth
⌨ Keyboard: A4Tech Bloody B120

[rocky granite]

ok that explains it

you've got double the RAM I have, a MUCH better CPU, and a decently better GPU

[solar girder]

I got the same CPU

[eternal ivy]

You didn't have to post the periferals.

[steady kite]

by chance, I took information from the twitch channel

[solar girder]

Oh nvm it's X3D

[pearl spire]

Yeah I normally take mine from my steam page

[solar girder]

D:

[hearty frost]

I'd be curios to what kind of performance you'd get from a more recent motherboard 😛

[steady kite]

none

or very small

[hearty frost]

For overclocking not jsut generally 😛

[steady kite]

I don’t overclock this processor at all, let alone the RAM

I generally limited the frequencies for the processor because it is very strange

[eternal ivy]

You should just undervolt it.

[steady kite]

That's what I did

[eternal ivy]

Not through frequence, but through PBO.

[steady kite]

I know

[eternal ivy]

Okay. You said frequency, so that's why I mentioned.

[hearty frost]

Out of curiosity can you use the integrated and dedicated graphics simultaneously on two different processes? I've never ever actually had a CPU with intergrated graphics.

[steady kite]

No

For each application - by default this or that graphics is prioritized

somewhere the built-in one is enough, and somewhere the main one

All this is customizable

[hearty frost]

I mean like use dedicated for games/application 3d render and like use cpu for processes like video render i.e. OBS?

Or just can't at all, it's one or other to be used at given time?

[rocky granite]

ok I decided to check out the Ultrawide mod at 1080p

[steady kite]

Can not

[rocky granite]

this looks REALLY weird

[hearty frost]

Aww :<

[eternal ivy]

You don't need LCUW on a 1920x1080.

And it shouldn't really change anything for that res on default config.

[rocky granite]

What do you usually set it to?

[rocky granite]

Hey look who's modpack decided to show up on my front page

[hearty frost]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-verlehen-shy-schüchtern-embarrassed-gif-16491134087479497423

Do you know what's funny though, I left the BepinEx console on KEK

Because it's "Default" right? 🤣 💀

[rocky granite]

Is there a way to make it so my suits save permanently? Like making it so if I leave the game and go back into the same save, my suit that i was wearing previously will still be equipped?

[hearty frost]

I think there's a suitsaver mod that saves a sort of profile but AC's setting alone is when you're fired. You will still have default suits on new games & profiles.

https://tenor.com/view/himym-suit-up-shave-phone-call-barney-stinson-gif-5980300

I really want to add another mod to the pack but I also want to keep it at 69 :S

[rocky granite]

So I'll have to reinstall suitsaver then, got it

[hearty frost]

Yeah just make sure to disable AC's suitsaver I think

[rocky granite]

I deleted it since I saw AC's settings, but I didn't realize that it didn't save across leaving and rejoining

[rocky granite]

Gotcha

[dreamy temple]

@solid pivot are you using terminalevent text for your eject terminalnode

[solar girder]

also how do i check moons inteior chances?

with LLL

[hearty frost]

simulate <moonname>

[rocky granite]

should just be in the configs i believe

[solar girder]

no worky :c

[hearty frost]

@dreamy temple Just asked him to peep, he said he'll answer later he being a Rogue Assassin on the twitch of German Youtube!

[hearty frost]

It should do o.o

Simulate Vow

Simulate Outpost31

Simulate Triskelion

[hearty frost]

tadaaa!

[solar girder]

wait am supposed to type the whole NAME???

[hearty frost]

Yes xD

[sour jolt]

How do i stop the cameras/radar from breaking?

[solar girder]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[hearty frost]

Demand the company to fit you with working equipment 😄

[solar girder]

Simulate Atlas Abyss

[hearty frost]

Yeah

[solar girder]

no worky

[hearty frost]

if no worky do Atlas_abyss I will double check now

[solar girder]

yes worky

[hearty frost]

:3

[sour jolt]

xD
Jokes aside though, it has been happening to me ever since i installed advanced company, is this a widespread issue?

[vagrant python]

Elaborate "breaking"

[hearty frost]

No it isn't an Advanced Company issue specifically.

[vagrant python]

This sounds like mod Incompatibility or user error

[solar girder]

i swear the Moreinteriors bunker has to be 0.01% 💀

[hearty frost]

No it's not there at all by looks of it

[sour jolt]

Mid-game they get switch and get stuck onto the planet preview screen

[hearty frost]

remember some configs use different string

[solar girder]

its in the modpack fully working

LLL already has a chance for it to spawn in

just for some reason its so fucking low

lower then SCPFlow

[vagrant python]

Likely some other mod breaking

[hearty frost]

Remove the 99999 rarity for Outpost31 in the moreinteriors config? Or set the general rarity higher. The config is a little touchy I think

[vagrant python]

I'd suggest looking at your terminal mods

[sour jolt]

It could be, i have around 40 mods. I was assuming it was an issue with AC since i've heard plenty of other people talking about the issue while i was playing with them

[vagrant python]

Oh boy

[sour jolt]

I'll try switching the other mods off in some time

Thank you

[hearty frost]

Have you got General Improvements installed?

[vagrant python]

I don't think it's that mod
I've never experienced anything like that

[hearty frost]

This can interfer with some cam/viewmods

Why I leave it false just incase anything tries altering viewcam

[vagrant python]

Oh I see

[sour jolt]

Nope

[hearty frost]

Damn

[hearty frost]

Wanna drop your modlist?

[vagrant python]

Pls don't screenshot

[sour jolt]

Sure, give me a moment

[vagrant python]

Also include ``` at beginning and end

[sour jolt]

How do i do it?

[vagrant python]

This

[sour jolt]

Oh ok

[vagrant python]

Under settings

[hearty frost]

Settings>Modpacks>Show Dependency Strings

[vagrant python]

But again include ``` on both ends when you paste before sending

So it isn't cancer on the eyes

[sour jolt]

Yeye, i know the feeling

[solar girder]

also since i do not need monitors i should prop disable the ones that uses cams

[sour jolt]

Tyzeron-Minimap-1.0.5
AinaVT-LethalConfig-1.3.4
NotAtomicBomb-TerminalApi-1.5.1
NotAtomicBomb-TimeCommand-1.1.0
Rune580-LethalCompany_InputUtils-0.6.3
red_eye-LethalAutocomplete-0.4.3
Renegades-WalkieUse-1.5.0
Renegades-FlashlightToggle-1.5.0
Evaisa-HookGenPatcher-0.0.5
Evaisa-LethalLib-0.14.2
Tronald-TerminalCommander-1.9.2
AMRV-ConfigurableCompany-2.6.0
AMRV-LethalCompanyVariables-1.9.0
PopleZoo-BetterItemScan-3.0.1
TwinDimensionalProductions-CoilHeadStare-1.0.6
YellowGameDev-5CreditSprayPaintMod-1.1.0
FlipMods-ReservedItemSlotCore-1.8.17
FlipMods-ReservedSprayPaintSlot-1.0.7
Hypick-BetterShotgun-1.3.0
mrov-UnlockOnStart-0.6.3
Ozone-BepInUtils-1.2.1
itsmeowdev-DoorFix-1.0.0
Ryokune-Better_Lobbies-1.1.0
FlipMods-FasterItemDropship-1.2.1
AgentRev-ShootableMouthDogs-1.0.1
Suskitech-AlwaysHearActiveWalkies-1.4.4
Process-slashKill-1.0.0
UnscriptedLogic-Toggle_Scan-1.0.0
quackandcheese-ToggleMute-1.3.0
Alice-WhoPulledTheLever-1.0.0
BlueAmulet-LogNeuter-1.0.3
falcodxb-LessLogs-1.0.1
PotatoePet-AdvancedCompany-1.1.1
Zaggy1024-OpenBodyCams-1.2.0
ViViKo-BetterDecorPlacement-1.2.1

[vagrant python]

Drop the reserved slots mod

That will cause breakage

[sour jolt]

Oh damn it, i just realised the list includes the mods that are turned off

Reserved slots is already off

[vagrant python]

Gotcha

[sour jolt]

I'll clear up the list in a bit

[hearty frost]

Renegades-WalkieUse-1.5.0
Renegades-FlashlightToggle-1.5.0

You don't need these either with AC.

AC already has comms and flashlight key.

[vagrant python]

I would try without any terminal mods and see if issue persists, specifically quick switch if its a term mod

[hearty frost]

FlipMods-FasterItemDropship-1.2.1 Interfers with ShipEXP

[vagrant python]

It does?

[hearty frost]

Ryokune-Better_Lobbies-1.1.0 Conflicts from what I remmeber

[sour jolt]

I updated the list, now it has only the enabled mods

[vagrant python]

How does it interfere with shipXP?

I've used that one because it has some small features AC doesn't

I.e, leaving fast

[hearty frost]

Ship perk that increases dropship speed and also delivery ship.

[solar girder]

Heavy conflict ton of crashes etc

[sour jolt]

Better lobbies is for making lobbies searching and joining easier

Never crashed me iirc

[vagrant python]

Hmm interesting

[solar girder]

crashed for me

[solar girder]

ooo

[steady kite]

r2modman updated :3

[hearty frost]

We finally got the update?

[rocky granite]

Palworld support?!?!!

[solar girder]

pokimon

[hearty frost]

Uh oh... :S

[rocky granite]

I need to check this out immediately

[solar girder]

uhhhh

[steady kite]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[solar girder]

but 17+

[hearty frost]

20 Mins till Dawn and Cult support and go wild for Palword xD

No judging from me 😛

[rocky granite]

damn

[steady kite]

FUCK, HE BECAME WORKING FASTER

[hearty frost]

Palworld literal AI game of Fortnite, Valheim and Pokemon 😛 One day someone will prove it 😛

[steady kite]

I have 160 mods and everything turns on and off quickly, THIS IS COOL

[rocky granite]

Palworld wasn't even made with AI lmao

That got debunked a while ago

[hearty frost]

There's no actual way to proove it sadly 😛

[rocky granite]

I mean technically you're right

But people discovered that they hired some random dude who already made concepts beforehand I think

[solar girder]

i will add every sus audio to that game since tiktok want to ruin it for me

either way i dont play that game so eh

[rocky granite]

I just want the jet model mod

[solar girder]

jet enigne

[hearty frost]

The game uses very similar audio from other games, artwork is too close to pokemon and also fortnite. 😛 Either they paid someone really good money or used ai 😛

I honestly believe they added everything else their selves though, but sadly no way to prove anything 😛

[solar girder]

HOLY SHIT there should be a nuke mod thats a bit different from meltdown

[hearty frost]

Either way I hope it all works out

[solar girder]

it requires u to put 2 apparatus into the easter egg thingy

[rocky granite]

Oh the pals are 100% heavily inspired by pokemon

[hearty frost]

They need to update Gamepass version and stop forcing people into buying steam versions because people genuinely like the game.

[solar girder]

and next match if u are the last person u can use the nuke

[rocky granite]

But Pokemon also literally stole designs from Dragon Quest so

[solar girder]

and you wont lose credits since company will thank u for nuking

that moon

this mod idea gonna be lit

[hearty frost]

But they still drew it all though 😛

[rocky granite]

Is there a thread for it?

[solar girder]

i made one

[rocky granite]

Well tbf we don't know if Palworld devs did or not so

[hearty frost]

I don't think so, I hope I am wrong because if they drew it all up fairplay in all honesty 🙂

Talent is always due recognition 😄

[autumn talon]

Hey it says I'm missing 3 vanilla prefabs. what do I do

[rocky granite]

I found this on Forbes

[pearl spire]

I’ve seen that image and I disagree with it tbh. They just both were inspired by different general concepts, Yōkai, and myths/legends. Like people compare whatever this is with Growlithe, which is absolutely a stretch

[hearty frost]

Yeah it was a huge change to steam, wether studios comply to it though will be another thing.

[rocky granite]

yea that's the only issue

[autumn talon]

Ahem

[pearl spire]

Ah yes, Pidgeotto

[hearty frost]

Someone is running something different.

Even a different config change can cause a mismatch, having lc_api can cause mismatching versions etc.

[split mist]

Is that a shiny?

[pearl spire]

Right? lol

[autumn talon]

ok

[pearl spire]

they’re just both birds with a backwards head tuft. Outside of that they share no design elements

[rocky granite]

yea that one is a stretch 😂

[hearty frost]

Oh god so nice R2 to be so fast again xD

[pearl spire]

Most of them are, as they’re general concepts or yōkai

[hearty frost]

Hmm what do I play 😛

[pearl spire]

Like this is how you make a difference while still being based off of the same concept (Ninetales and Kyubi from Yo-kai Watch), which are both based off of Kitsune.

[rocky granite]

Yea that I agree with

[solar girder]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1207837129196179457

yes there is

[pearl spire]

While some of the Pals do have cool original designs, some of them are almost embarrassingly close Pokémon.

[rocky granite]

Yea, there's a couple where I feel like they could've done a better job

[pearl spire]

This and the one I sent earlier are two big examples

[rocky granite]

But the game is still early access so maybe they'll do some design changes

[hearty frost]

R2 update is going brrrrrrrrrrrrrr right now

https://tenor.com/view/delanovanaken-delanoboi-delanofastasfuckboi-fastfuckboi-funny-gif-13688353

[rocky granite]

fr

[hearty frost]

Give it a week xD

[pearl spire]

Is it that big of a difference?

[rocky granite]

yes

[hearty frost]

3-5 second delays to instant response in functionality. yes

[pearl spire]

Holy crap okay

Wow

[rocky granite]

there is 0 delay now

[pearl spire]

Guess I need to switch over from TS

[hearty frost]

Like when you disable a mod there's a delay? That's gone/

[rocky granite]

I switched over a while ago

[pearl spire]

I was going to but I’m lazy lol

[hearty frost]

All gone! till next time. Yeah I switched over too, TS just getting silly with crashes xD

[rocky granite]

Just to get away from Overwolf since it kept eating up 80% of my GPU at random

[pearl spire]

Yeah it got way worse a few weeks ago

[hearty frost]

R2 is less effort. You just install it and you're good to go.

[pearl spire]

It constantly crashes now

[hearty frost]

TS requires Overwolf,

[rocky granite]

that's one of the reasons i switched

[hearty frost]

Jsut a pain when OVerwolf has updates, then TS doesn't get one for everrrr

[pearl spire]

Can I import everything from TS?

[hearty frost]

Crashes was why I switched too, they got to often.

[hearty frost]

All uses same stuff, just port over with profile code

or drag over folder

[rocky granite]

Just export each profile as a code and re import them

[pearl spire]

I have a nice few profiles so it’d be nice if I could drag and drop the folders

[rocky granite]

I need to convince my friends to use R2

but they already get annoyed enough by just updating a profile code once a week

[hearty frost]

Even downloading is instant now 😮

[hearty frost]

Then they don't understand the struggle to an ever changing space. The game has so little functionality and shocked modders done so well so far, games not full release either 😛

[gleaming dawn]

bro same with my friends

“Here we go again”

[solar girder]

what are some fun moons i should add to my HideNSeek Company modpack?

[rocky granite]

The starlancer moons maybe?

not that i've noticed, no

[hearty frost]

Diversity is the only mod that offers this feature.

AC has it's on PostProcessing API though but doesn't directly change anything.

Only affected when using Vision Enhancers & Controller Cursed Item.

[covert notch]

bro this mod pack so far is the best stable modpack I have seen
my pc
ryzen 3 3200g gtx 1650 16gb ram

[rocky granite]

controller cursed item?

[hearty frost]

Doom

[rocky granite]

That's a part of AC??

[hearty frost]

That's REALLY great to hear! Thank you for the feedback! ❤️ ❤️

[hearty frost]

Yeah Bunny Ears, Controller and Light Shoes are all cursed items from AdvancedCompany

[rocky granite]

I remember seeing a preview of the controller a while back, but I thought it was a completely separate mod

[hearty frost]

Nah haha it's in AC :3

Softy did the sprites and stuff for it

[solar girder]

i made the LCGuy for that controller 💪 😎

[hearty frost]

^

[rocky granite]

Is it bought from the terminal?

[solar girder]

nah

[hearty frost]

No you find it as scrap

[solar girder]

scrap

[rocky granite]

Ah

[hearty frost]

if you want to increase rarity find it in moon list under item name Controller

[solar girder]

its a cursed item

[hearty frost]

It's REALLY low rarity otherwise

[rocky granite]

Yea I was gonna say I played for a while last night with some friends and never saw it

[solar girder]

wsp

[hearty frost]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-boy-cowboy-you-too-boo-yeah-right-gif-17820485

[solar girder]

im not gonna update the main pack yet

ill check for other Cosmetics

Dantors Mental Hospital is a good interior for HideNSeek lol

[hearty frost]

@solar girder Just noticed you're one of the 2 people who liked my pack, you cutie haha

[solar girder]

lol np

[solid pivot]

What eject terminal node? Eject is a vanilla command

[dreamy temple]

people were telling me its from ac lmao 😭

[solid pivot]

lol :D

It was added in v47 I think?

Its a hidden command, I just shared it as one of the firsts I guess

[dreamy temple]

yeah if anyone reports it as being broken its probably my bad

might have missed an edgecase in terminalevent stuff

[earnest estuary]

if I disable the blob for example then enable a custom weight in a certain moon does the moon override it? @solid pivot

[solar girder]

infact if u disable blob in the enemies tab

the moon cant do nothing about it

[solar girder]

ohhh

if u disable blob in a certain moon it wont spawn in that moon

simple

[frigid crystal]

Some one told me it was from a mod XD

[solar girder]

also a reminder a moon has multiple timezones for you to delete a monster from the moon

like outside day/night and inside day/night

[solar girder]

so you would need to disable blob 4 different ways in a moon to remove it completly

[earnest estuary]

bruv

[solar girder]

outside day/night
and
inside day/night

[solar girder]

but atleast theres more option

tho

isnt that whats AC is about mostly? more stuff u can change

[hearty frost]

I did say 😦

[earnest estuary]

then why wont it let me disable the modified inventory

so other mods can work

[hearty frost]

Inventory isn't modified, It's synced.

reserved slots also is a sync solution, this is why it doesn't work together.

[solar girder]

infact lethalthings belt works with it

i tested it its worked fine

[hearty frost]

Because Utility Belt doesn't provide any syncing. 😛

but still can cause an issue fyi ^^

[solar girder]

just it becomes really goofy when u have 16 slots lol

[solar girder]

ye

[rocky granite]

How do you make it so a custom preset shows up at the top of the preset list?

[hearty frost]

The 3 default will always be there on top unless you turn them off in modpack.cfg

I might have toooo

[shy arch]

How did you make your modpack pictures

[rocky granite]

Is this config only if you have the skip presets config enabled?

[hearty frost]

Yeah this is for if you want to skip the whole host creation GUI this would be the profile that would be selected if it was enabled.

[rocky granite]

Got it

[solar girder]

Paint.net

a simple software

recommended to use videos how to get it

[shy arch]

how did you get that border for it

[solar girder]

?

border?

[shy arch]

grey box on the image

[solar girder]

mean the grey below the text?

[shy arch]

yes

[solar girder]

i took a photo and try matching the size

and then made a shadow with the same size as those

and made it transparent

[hearty frost]

Paint.Net = poormans Adobe, and it's basically nearly same thing.

I'd highly recommend, or Gimp.

[rocky granite]

Paint.net is so good if you don't need anything super advanced

[sonic jetty]

yup

paint.net is basically microsoft paint but good

[rocky granite]

literally

[solar girder]

pov what i made with a simple paint.net

@hearty frost @rocky granite @sonic jetty

[solar girder]

last year lol

[rocky granite]

jesus

[sonic jetty]

cool

nobody will ever beat that guy who made photorealistic santa on mspaint tho

[rocky granite]

i'm not good with digital art whatsoever so

[solar girder]

that right there is my 3rd time sketching

[solar girder]

this

this is how it started

and no i didnt delete the drawing

i moved it and changed small stuff to it

to this

[rocky granite]

i need to come up with an icon for my pack

[solar girder]

to this

eh i wont fill this chat up with my drawings lol

no worries i wont keep going

[sonic jetty]

this sums up my current art skills

but thats really cool

[solar girder]

btw i sketch with a mouse

god please help me

[sonic jetty]

you're crazy (in both ways)

[solar girder]

i need a drawing tablet 😭

please..

[sonic jetty]

draw on paper and scan it to pc

craigthumb

[solar girder]

how 😭

[sonic jetty]

I think a lot of printers can do that idk lol

[solar girder]

mine is 30 years old 😭

and turn into fire yesterday

[sonic jetty]

lmao my ~20 year old printer works better than the newer one

[steady kite]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Zehs/ToilHead/

[patent turtle]

Perfection

[solar girder]

my first ever sketeched drawing

looks goofy

but good

cant tell what words to use

[sonic jetty]

it'd take me a day to draw the hand

[shy arch]

bruh

how

[solar girder]

it took me 1.4 hours to draw that

[sonic jetty]

the word is "stylized"

[solar girder]

on mouse sketch

god please help me get a drawing tablet

someone from year ago this sketch drawing is worst 💀
another one i made

[hoary loom]

Where are player perks saved? My friend has his perks reset somehow when updating his code in r2modman and trying to figure out how to get him his points back

[vagrant python]

XP [Playername] [number]

@hoary loom

[hoary loom]

oh? where does that go?

[hearty frost]

You just taught bro the cheatcode >.<

https://tenor.com/view/codes-play-station-gif-5923318

This is crazy, I install LE back to try/test something client instantly has issues LMAO

[vagrant python]

Portable term
Host only

[hoary loom]

Thanks

[hearty frost]

type "debug" for list of players if need be

[solar girder]

thats crazy

same here lmao

[hearty frost]

Literally had 0 issues since dropping it, I install it to try out some new released and the game just says "no".

[solar girder]

lmfao

went from LLL to now LE + LEC lmfao

[hearty frost]

I wish I was exaggerating because I miss my swords and katana etc but this shit isn't having it.

[muted drum]

is LE the cause of weather and inventory desync like 50% of my damn games

[solar girder]

anyways im gonna start hosting a lobby in a few mins

[hearty frost]

My honest opinion. Until someone picks up the development of it, becomes successor - I wouldn't bother with it as in for playing an actual game. Still useful tool though for development.

[solar girder]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TheHorizonCreations/HideNSeek_Company/ with this modpack i created

[muted drum]

damn, i wish the rest of the moon mods converted to LLL so i could switch

[hearty frost]

Most of them are planning to

[solar girder]

some already did

[muted drum]

expertmoons i have not seen anything from the dev

sfdesat's moons i think he did say like a couple weeks ago

[solar girder]

guessing somebody new is gonna be added

later

[hearty frost]

Wesley is coming to LLL, I know Panduh will with Budapest when documentation gets released. Few other makers also waiting for Documentation.

Shotgun go brrr with doomsounds

[muted drum]

i wish there was a version of AdvComp that didn't have all the extra features and such

[hearty frost]

You can turn everything on/off.

[muted drum]

i can't figure out how to disable perks and the new inventory system

[vagrant python]

Tell me you've never used AC without telling me 🤓

[muted drum]

would rather play with reserveditemslots

[vagrant python]

That's a joke, don't worry

[muted drum]

i mean i did like 4 days ago

[hearty frost]

Then play with ReservedSlots.

[muted drum]

it conflicts with the inventory system so you cant actually use it

[hearty frost]

Don't use AC.. ?

[muted drum]

my point is that i would like to use it's netcode improvements over MoreCompany

but i cannot due to the featureset

[hearty frost]

Literally no point in using Rservedslots if you have AC xD

[vagrant python]

Seems like this is a great learning opportunity

[hearty frost]

Plus working on PortableTerminal upgrades, Weapon Holster etc - but might not get released now because people really shit all over AdvancedCompany and Potatoe.

[muted drum]

why would people shit on arguably the most important mod for this game, that seems illogical

im mainly complaining because of my own fault

[hearty frost]

Because cancel culture exists.

People wanna be entitled.

People hate a person for having emotion, having passion. Literally a person making stuff for FREE.

All because of Hall Of Shame.

Which is mostly my fault but I DID CALL IT HALL OF LORE.

Potatoe jsut went a little extra that's all.

[muted drum]

i wish it wasn't unacceptable to just say you want to beat people with hammers

but we need to create a "safe environment" online and all :/

[solar girder]

doesn't seem extra to me seems like an honor to be on there lol

[hearty frost]

People shouldnve of taken it like that tbh, it was totally anonymised. Some of it funny, especially the boobas comment.

[solar girder]

lmao

[hearty frost]

Safe space? Like Jack Doherty infulence more idiots?

[muted drum]

discord rules and such, theyll ban you

[solar girder]

yeah anyways seems like people dont like playing my HideNSeek modpack in servers

only friendgroups like to play it

[hearty frost]

Funny that MoreCompany creator got banned from here.. but people still use their mod even though they apparently were incredibly toxic.

[solar girder]

its kinda sad HideNSeek is very underrated now

only to server people

[muted drum]

i guess i gotta figure out how to work AdvCompany into my modlist then lol

[hearty frost]

Because of how a person behaves shouldn't dictate who uses their work.

Some of the best minds are literal assholes.

[muted drum]

no i know that i just assume he isn't gonna update it anymore

[solar girder]

maybe that's where it all started, all the entitled people lol just saying

[muted drum]

he hasn't done shit becsides 1 inconsequential update

[solar girder]

but they are so shameless

[hearty frost]

MoreCompany still gets updates. But it's just a lobbycount and cosmetic solution, nothing else. So has THE MOST compat in theory because it has no functions.

[muted drum]

thats exactly why i use it

[hearty frost]

AC's design is meant to literally enhance the LC game, expand on it which lacks in base game - due to early release and Zeek single handly trying to do it all himself.

[muted drum]

but im so tired of my game desyncing every 2 or 3 runs

[solar girder]

AC provides better

[hearty frost]

I think that's why people use Biggerlobbies with or or whatever it's called, MC isn't a lobby solution only count.

[solar girder]

MC didnt that have problems if reached over 6 players?

[hearty frost]

But in seriousness, people don't want to use AC because streamers also wont use it because they're under impression that Potatoe is toxic and stuff.

[hearty frost]

MC had problems with anything over 4 xD

[solar girder]

man..

[solar girder]

💀

[muted drum]

biggerlobbies i had more problems than MC

basically its a pick your poison situation

or maybe Zeekerss could just make the netcode not terrible in the first place

[solar girder]

i can say thats true

[hearty frost]

Potatoe put so much work into AC jsut for people to constantly say it's breaking game, that he should be touching this and that, that he is also toxic but after learning somestuff I am not even suprised why he has that attitude.

[solar girder]

he is a roblox dev tho its really impressive he made a working game

barely in a way

[muted drum]

he's been making games a while so its not his first rodeo

[solar girder]

i guess your right

[frigid crystal]

Barely?

[hearty frost]

Roblox uses similar stuff I think

[frigid crystal]

Do you know it steals?

[muted drum]

it steals came out in 2020

[solar girder]

yes made by Zeekers

[frigid crystal]

Yep

[hearty frost]

Also this is impossible in any multiplayer sandbox with reliant p2p connection.

No multiplayer game with p2p connection is stable.

[solar girder]

tho lets be real what's the only thing keeping LC alive?

[hearty frost]

and unitys sound pipeline is god awful.

[solar girder]

other then the fact him being a furry fixed half of the toxicity

[hearty frost]

I dred to think of the weirdness some people have to do to get stuff working the way they intend.

[muted drum]

it's definitely possible just harder because every client acts as "the server"

[hearty frost]

No, host is 'the server'.

[solar girder]

wrong

[hearty frost]

And if that host has a normal firewall, strict, shitty internet or anything - they make a bad host.

hardware also accounts HUGELY when hosting.

[muted drum]

in LC's case yea, but that isn't a P2P limitation

[hearty frost]

It really is p2p limitation.

Look at Destiny 1 & 2

[solar girder]

if clients were to act as the server it wouldnt be a clientsided would it?

[hearty frost]

Look at Division

Finest examples of poor p2p connections

[frigid crystal]

What does him being a furry have anything to do with Lethal?

[hearty frost]

in AAA enviroment too

[solar girder]

it fixed most of the toxicity lol

well its slowly coming back

but yk what i mean

[hearty frost]

I guess I am wrong to some aspect, fighter games are most stable when it comes to p2p

but literally 2 players through a gateway/login server

[solar girder]

it made ton of toxic people leave

just by knowing that lmao

[frigid crystal]

Eh is toxicity ever gone XD

[hearty frost]

I mean aslong the furry not causing harm they should get anything cause of it 😛

[solar girder]

in a way he kinda saved it without doing anything but exist

[frigid crystal]

Thats cool

[solar girder]

we still have some toxic people cause they aint as sensitve as those other toxic ones

[hearty frost]

This shit straight up wierd tho

[solar girder]

but still do shit that makes no sense

[muted drum]

i would rather have a true client-server arch like Terraria or something and just host something dedicated

[hearty frost]

That's the funny thing, if zeek sorted out api and an actual server solution he could capitalise off it so much with server hosting it's unreal.

[solar girder]

yeah that's what most non-furry people see them as cause more then half of them got extreme talents for art and use it to make either porn or r34 shit with weird poses

and they aint wrong its a true thing

though now this makes me wonder

[frigid crystal]

r34 can burn for all i care XD

[hearty frost]

They even tagg it SFW when it's still suggestive xD

[solar girder]

lmao

[muted drum]

i think that would turn people away similar to BF4. if you arent providing a dedicated server binary with the game it becomes kinda eh

[muted drum]

to play devils advocate you can make like 500k a year doing that so i dont blame them

even if i don't support it

[solar girder]

there are only a few rare furrys that make cool art and not thirst traps arts

though i kinda wish it grew more like that instead

instead of random sus stuff

[muted drum]

i think it just comes down to it being a fetish but they don't want it percieved like a fetish

like its whatever but doubling down and trying to "cover it up" does not help you

[hearty frost]

Nothing wrong with a fetish, that's the point. 😛

[muted drum]

yea exactly

[hearty frost]

Yeah exactly this, it's literally doubling down

[solar girder]

yep

[steady kite]

urgently I need the sound of a shotgun and a mod for POV

[solar girder]

how people thought Doom was gonna be added to LC be like

vs how it went

[muted drum]

if LC didn't rely on the host saving and facilitating connections between clients i think it would probably be more stable too, a true P2P arch like this is what i was implying

there should be zero reason the host matters at all from a gameplay perspective

[solar girder]

now this is making me want to use the controller

ill go ahead and test it for myself

damn bro still no wants in a server wants my HideNSeek modpack

only friendgroups Actually plays it and give me a good review

[muted drum]

probably too many core gameplay changes

i.e. only 1 monster type

[hearty frost]

tbh I am suprised you didn't make use of the 'Controler' for the seeker 😛

[muted drum]

or just doing a proper client server and having a separate CLI program to run thru gameplay events and facilitate networking would just be better from a UX side

[solid pivot]

Host should matter to prevent cheats/hacks tbh. Somebody needs authority to spawn enemies for example

I mean LC did it wrong anyway, all clients can instruct the host to spawn enemies it seems

[hearty frost]

Bro taking words out of my mouth.

[solid pivot]

Something my own game wont do

[muted drum]

was going to say, people just spawn stuff and use ControlCompany anyways so it isn't really helping

[solid pivot]

Host is the dealer of the game

It isnt entirely in LC tho, but well, thats because LC is written poorly

When gaming god gave good netcode to all the smoll little games, lethal company wasnt in the room

[muted drum]

i just don't see any reason not to just do a separate client/server instead

[hearty frost]

I mean they were handling way mods fine, there's a lot more work in a game especially when it comes to object. My only thought is still why stay solo, at this point especially.

[solid pivot]

Because late join isnt a thing because the game lacks any sync :P

The netcode and usage of Networking for Gameobjects is very very poorly implemented

[muted drum]

exactly what i was trying to say earlier. idk why the sync is just so deliberately terrible

[hearty frost]

I mean do you think it's fair to have all connections pass through a main client that may not be reponsible?

[muted drum]

not at all

[solid pivot]

Because, you might have guessed it, Zeekers is an amateur

[muted drum]

it should ideally only be passing to a dedicated server and then back to a client

i.e. Terraria, Gmod, Minecraft, etc

[solid pivot]

A bloody rookie without any deep knowledge of networking and programming

Some code is outright horrible and must come from the depths of hell

I mean, the game works. Mostly.

[hearty frost]

Got to learn some how though 😛 Not evenyone learns the same way, some people just do to learn 😛

[muted drum]

i mean giving him the benefit of the doubt maybe he just threw some shit together to make it work

but he should definitely rearchitect it before full release

[solid pivot]

If I plan to sell a product I dont throw together some shit

[muted drum]

i agree with you

[steady kite]

@hearty frost waiting

[muted drum]

but hes a roblox dev so thats normal

[solid pivot]

He cant rearchitecture now tho

Or the game will suffer from all mods becoming incompatible

Thats why you release a solid foundation as a game, kids

[hearty frost]

Actually this is a solid point to a degree, he did market the game out - even the marketed product wasn't in the released product so yeah 😛

[muted drum]

i mean he could, i would just say fuck it and do it anyways

[hearty frost]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Entity378/DoomEternalSuperShotgunSounds/

[muted drum]

force everyone to remake their shit for the greater good

[solid pivot]

Sure he could :D He can do anything

I wouldnt remake AC tho

[hearty frost]

Would be easier/faster just to start from scratch again, would be really messy to rip everything apart.

[solid pivot]

Too much work

[steady kite]

POV?

[solid pivot]

And now you understand why I want to make my own game @hearty frost

[hearty frost]

There's no POV mod 😛 I shoot gun

[hearty frost]

Well yeah but that's different, I think most of the modders including you have done quite well work wise considering the lack of function the game has to work with

[steady kite]

What is your POV viewing angle mod?