[Deprecated] Advanced Company

[solar girder]

What about it

[fair turret]

I don't know i still havent tried it

I wanted to know if somebody already tested it

[solar girder]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1173097017539563580

[steady kite]

There's no music, he just freaks out and flies all over the map after you

[wide zealot]

No Access lmao

[solar girder]

Hmm odd

[solar girder]

Just for you?

[wide zealot]

What were you even trying to link to?

XD

[solar girder]

To a channel in this server

[wide zealot]

Odd

I might not have the role for it

Do you know what roles you have?

[fair turret]

Oops sorry

[wide zealot]

Or which role unlocks the channel rather?

[torpid ginkgo]

..did this ever get answered

[solar girder]

Could you screenshot the whole screenshot

I believe I might know what it is

[torpid ginkgo]

thats the "probability" for indoor enemy spawns

but what does that.. mean? i ask becuase i noticed that titan for example has like.. 3 or something while most other moons have 4

[solar girder]

Rarity probably

It's probably the cap for it

[burnt sandal]

im trying to get blobs to spawn in atlantica (one of wesley's moons) and no matter how much i increase their rarity they don't seem to spawn

they are able to spawn outside, but not inside

NEVERMIND IT WORKS

[solemn thistle]

what do this mean?

[burnt oriole]

Magic Wesley made a mod that contains all the moons they’ve made into a single mod btw! Just noticed you have like 3 or so but they’ve made more in case you wanna simplify the manifest 👍🏼

[thick tinsel]

i noticed in advance company when starting a fresh save that atlantica does not show in the moon list. I have Orion and Atlas abyss. all 3 appear in the terminal but atlantica hijacks attempts to go to atlas

[devout owl]

they should add a creature that looks just like me

[pastel narwhal]

They're called beehives

[devout owl]

woah

hey squidward

[lapis birch]

is it normal for ac to have 3 inventory slots instead of 4?

[flat tiger]

I hate this new discord layout

[inland drift]

sorry this is probably asked a lot but the thread is gigantic, this and lategameupgrades dont actively conflict right, they just kind of overlay ontop of eachother?

[flat tiger]

I can’t even search for something in this thread

[inland drift]

^

[mellow saffron]

you can't search threads on desktop??

its horrible but not a fault of the new layout

[flat tiger]

I’m on mobile

[arctic sonnet]

It is asked a lot, and they do not conflict. I personally will tell you to nerf or disable certain upgrades

[mellow saffron]

yeah no like youve never been able to

[flat tiger]

Yeah I could’ve

Js had to swipe right

[arctic sonnet]

They do stack on top of each other, and Default running shoes with default AC running speed both maxed are insane

[mellow saffron]

maybe if you had a modified client extended list of features

[inland drift]

thanks, just wanted to make sure it still worked how I thought I saw somewhere a month or so ago

[arctic sonnet]

If you want balanced-ish, I've nerfed LGU's running shoes to start at .4, and only add .2 per upgrade

still makes it worth it - but doesn't make you run sanic speed

[inland drift]

was prolly just gonna disable all of advanced companys upgrades or lgu, just wanted boths additional content, do you have a pref for which plays nicer?

[arctic sonnet]

I also just outright disabled the strong legs

ye don't gotta disable all of either

some upgrades LGU does - AC doesn't have something for

[inland drift]

oh i just meant for balance sake

[arctic sonnet]

like locksmith or fast encryption

It'll take some config editing sure - but worth to keep both o ,o ... imo that is

ye are welcome to just disable all of LGU stuff

If ye want, I'll just DM ye my config if you want a config balanced for AC o- o

no upgrade feels useless, the stacking ones don't stack hard with each other, 'n all the utility is there

[flat tiger]

What is bro talking about?

[inland drift]

oh yeah, I heavily edit all of the configs to fine tune my experience for my group so ill look through it myself, appreciate it though. I give myself the great job of playtesting and editing mods so my friends can have a nice experience haha.

[flat tiger]

You could swipe right and it would show the people in the thread and you could see pins and search

[arctic sonnet]

I've done that too long -n-'

[inland drift]

yeah, its getting harder to keep up a stable build haha

[arctic sonnet]

The problem with discord is you can't search specifically in "Advanced Company"... at least I haven't been able to figure the darn thing out

[inland drift]

thanks for the info

[arctic sonnet]

you can search #1188298686560739389 or link it as #1186884307332108339

but how do you search this??? ------------ ^

There's this

but nuffin here :<

[devout owl]

idk why people deadass just didnt respond to u but yes

u can change it by going somewhere and setting inventory from 300 to 400 percent

[arctic sonnet]

Make sure you add a new preset so you can edit and save it to your liking

or use the mostly vanilla or vanilla preset

[magic tendon]

Is there a way to put some items in BetterTeleporter mod, so when i teleport, to not loose everything on me

[torpid ginkgo]

...does advancedcompany fuck with vanilla planet spawnrates
shit felt eclipsed on a normal weather planet

[dreamy temple]

Not to say @solid pivot should do anything, But ideally natural compatibility should be viable. What your asking for here would be more on Potato’s end to set before I get the values as AC’s json config is an AC feature. If There’s not a good window for AC to do that I’ll look into it when I get back to working on LLL

Anything regarding route price in usability and how it’s presented on the Terminal should be naturally compatible aswell, unless I have done something wrong

[muted drum]

i assume its similar to the LECore issue in the sense that they don't really integrate their methods of changing price together?

[dreamy temple]

Uhh no that’s because the way I need to get both implementations of custom moon loading working well without directly modifying LE requires me to change a value in the levels that breaks LE in a way where it can’t make the route nodes on their end, so I make them but I don’t know what their prices are meant to be

Fairly reasonable mistake in code that iirc was pretty old in the mod, ive let them know

In general, Without any diss to Potato or AC. Ideally I’m not really interested in explicitly supporting specific mods in LLL but I’m very open to feedback from developers, I’m very interested in Anything I can change the way I implement things in LLL to improve natural compatibility with mods

[lost python]

By default yes. You can change it through this section when you are hosting

or you can use the other 2 presets if you can't be bothered to do some tinkering

[torpid ginkgo]

..might've been a weather desync? host says it was eclipsed but iirc it wasnt

[lost python]

Eclipsed sometimes just feel like that at times

[golden hull]

new update broke alot of my config for me

modded moons dont show up in config, most of their prices are 0 ingame, and modded scrap spawnrate is now defaulted to 0

[split mist]

Hey Potatoe, how do I go about clearing the cosmetics cache for testing new versions of cosmetics?

[lost python]

do you have the new version of LLL

[devout owl]

add me into the game. if u pick me up, you get to be cool

also this

[golden hull]

yeah i updated all

[lost python]

For the moons that have 0 price:
#1193461151636398080 message

I am not sure about modded scrap spawnrate being defaulted to 0.

[vale nacelle]

is there a way to edit scrap spawns for all moons?

[lost python]

Moons tab

There should be a loot table section for each moon in which you can set the Rarity of each scrap

[vale nacelle]

i mean like, default values

[lost python]

Don't think there is

[vale nacelle]

i dont wanna go through each mooon, i just wanna disable what scrap spawns or not but it isnt working in the items section

ic

[lost python]

Oh the one in the Items section doesn't work? That's weird 👀

[vale nacelle]

ye, ill still find clown horns and stuff laying around lol

[torpid ginkgo]

i think latejoin is causing seed desyncs-- one group of people got one seed, and the other got another seed

[lost python]

I guess these can be reported as a bug in the github (if it hasn't been reported yet)

[torpid ginkgo]

for most people, it was clear weather vow with the castle dungeon interior
for other people, it was flooded vow with sewer

[fringe flame]

Does AC still mess with weather multipliers?

[arctic sonnet]

AC has weather multipliers

so having a mod for it is just stacking . -.

you can disable the AC one if you wanna keep the other one... for... whatever reason o- o

or just remove the mod and let AC handle the multiplication

[frigid crystal]

I did not get this menu when i opened the game

[arctic sonnet]

you have to click host

pretend you're hosting

[frigid crystal]

Ah gotcha

[fringe flame]

Where would you change weather multipliers?

[arctic sonnet]

look through the tabs before ye click save or continue when hosting

there's 6 tabs. Get familiar with the settings ., .

[fringe flame]

Did, couldn't find it

[arctic sonnet]

. -. ...

You gon' make me get in this game with arrows 'n circles <.<...

[lost python]

Host -> Confirm -> That tab should appear

I doubt it will not appear if you have AC installed 👀

[fringe flame]

I see that

But can't find weather multipliers in it

[lost python]

Under Moons

[arctic sonnet]

I'll find it >,> ... give my pack a minute to load.

[fringe flame]

Oh

[lost python]

It should be under Moons if you scroll down on the Moons tab

👍

[fringe flame]

Didn't see the second scroll lol

[arctic sonnet]

->

[lost python]

you're welcome 👍

[arctic sonnet]

I am still gonna make an image. I am 40 seconds into loading my pack up <.<

stupid custom moons...

[fringe flame]

Thanks, first box just fit so well

[arctic sonnet]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

I ain't wasting that darn 2 minute loading time for nuffin -w -

[lost python]

damn how do you do the blurry box

[arctic sonnet]

Comes with le tools of the program

I also have noticed something in my debug-

https://tenor.com/view/concern-robot-gif-9226335

[lost python]

MoreInteriors moment

[frigid crystal]

Is this compatible with advanced company?

[fringe flame]

Mostly Item name conflict can appear. Try the portable terminal to buy items.
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/PotatoePet/AdvancedCompany/wiki/1238-compability/

[frigid crystal]

ok thanks

[arctic sonnet]

i mean when ye get AC but don't use the portable terminal for buying-

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-cat-mad-cat-mad-death-stare-gif-7868546396309167793

[frigid crystal]

I mean i did not plan to

[fringe flame]

Perfer typing rather than going down 20 times

[arctic sonnet]

Ye can use arrows 'n wasd. You can order the entire shopping list faster 'n with less key strokes . -.

it's ultra buying

:o

[fringe flame]

Also key pad enter doesn't work

[arctic sonnet]

whointheheccuseskeypad .,. - should bring that up to potatoe o -o

[fringe flame]

I only use enter cause it's next to my mouse.

[vale nacelle]

i tested it more and it doesnt matter what you do on the items tab for enabling scrap or not, it still spawns scrap on all the moons ;;

[golden hull]

yeah i disabled some scrap but found it on the first moon i went to

[lapis bone]

hi, i notice that u guys mentioned AC has SuitSaver function, but I still cannot see where to activate this function. Every time me and my fds join game our suit still the default one

And I found the mod that cause my fd's mic sounds crackling, it was TermSpeak. It works fine with MC but when we change to AC it will cause the mic sounds crackling.

[steady kite]

My friends have microphone crackling when someone takes out an AC tablet, as it gives a good load

[lost python]

I was assuming that SuiSaver does the same functionality as this

[eternal mauve]

does this reduce the loadtime or no?

[white pike]

the tactical helmet is WAY too lightning condicive. we put a lightning rod out whenever its stormy, and even though the rod is out, the damn tactical helmet can get struck 6 times in a row. its ridiculous

[lost python]

Is it on a vanilla moon

[white pike]

yes

[burnt oriole]

i mean, im not 100% sure? nothing from what i noticed 🤔 however, the load time is the same as when i only had 2 of their custom moons when loading all like 5 or so of them? so no noticable increase in loadtimes?

[lost python]

It sounds like a desync of some sorts. Are you able to reproduce it?

[white pike]

me?

[lost python]

Yeah are you able to reproduce the issue?

[white pike]

yes, a lot

happens a lot

[lost python]

You can report it on the mod's github if so 👀

[eternal mauve]

you can change it back to 4 in the preset settings underneath perks (change base percentage to 400%).
The idea behind potatoe changing it to 3 slots is that, by default, you get 500 player xp at the start of the game which you can use to get perks of your choice

[lost python]

Just provide the details that the bug report template needs

[eternal mauve]

and one perk gives extra slots

[lapis bone]

no, SuitSaver function is everytime u enter server or being fired , ur suit still keep on body so u dunt have to change suit everytime. But save suits in AC only keep ur suit when u r fired, everytime u enter server still need to change suit

[solar girder]

Name: Special Identity
type: Item
Class: Cursed
Abilities:

• 1 when picked up player gain speed like they are ready to complete their work with happiness
• 2 monsters will be less hostile or wont even fight you
• 3 you become a 1 tap to kill, by anything
• 4 your fov goes up to 90

[solar girder]

yes to its fulliest

[lost python]

Oh I see

[frigid crystal]

Found an issue so me and my friend was playing modded

advanced company and more company was present it worked at first but after some stuff i needed to change his game crashed when he tried to join

after removing more company it worked again

is there any mods that add cosmetics?

[eternal mauve]

more company shouldnt be affecting anything since its getting disabled at the start of the game. Are you using late join?

[frigid crystal]

Nope

the last two where added after the removal of more company

Knowing my luck its just to much mods :/

[eternal mauve]

diversity diversity the problem is probably diversity disable it

diversity diversity

[frigid crystal]

Well shit

[eternal mauve]

😭

[frigid crystal]

How?

[eternal mauve]

ok well wait a moment i actually uh havent looked at all the mods :P

[eternal mauve]

diversity currently breaks A LOT OF THINGS. its getting fixed in 2.0, this saturday or so

[frigid crystal]

To think a mod that messes with just monsters breaks shit :/

That and the player

Dms so we dont fill this up with more shit XD

[steady kite]

On the EXP map
LC_OFFICE

LLL or LE is trolling

[solar girder]

does anyone know how to add images for lethalRichPresence

cause i was able to add the name "HideNSeek Company"

plus a custom invite banner

[lapis flume]

got a problem here, the flashlights on the head lamp and tactical helmet just straight up doesnt work, like i press f and nothing happens, but still uses up battery

[magic tendon]

Is there a way to put some items in BetterTeleporter mod, so when i teleport, to not loose everything on me

[steady kite]

GI in it I think there is a setting

[magic tendon]

I tried to add them, but it doesn't register them, maybe I don't know the actual names of the items, because when I up their normal names, nothing happens

[steady kite]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1199836228858675330 Offer them an idea so that they can then add items from mods to the config

[solar girder]

:D

it took me some time of understandings

[solar girder]

:0

[solid pivot]

You havent dispatched the lightning rod with left click

[vagrant python]

Lightning rod my beloved

Nothing is more infuriating than a new person seeing the lightning rod, picking it up and putting it down inside the ship like a damn ape

Makes me want to get a mod that prevents people from touching anything lmao

[vagrant python]

They put their greasy fingers on EVERYTHING

[solid pivot]

xD

I might add an interaction with it later

hit it with the shovel to activate

So even apes can use it

[hearty frost]

You've had people say to you, also myself - that your config is broke.

[solid pivot]

Oh no, is there drama again? :<

[hearty frost]

Did I just scroll past drama? :S

[solid pivot]

Dunno, one person saying AC broken, you say LLL broken

[hearty frost]

I was just replying to Batby reply to me 😛

[solid pivot]

And me sitting here:

[hearty frost]

No LLL config was broken, all values were getting forced even when disabled. Batby literally was told this soon as they released the update, so I am confused.

[solid pivot]

I really dont get it why the Doom HUD isnt removed xD

[analog radish]

How? I tried do add the image for like 2 weeks

[hearty frost]

Is there any silly reason why the game on base level is keeping it loaded thinking it's THE hud or at least an element of it?

[solid pivot]

afaik you need to create your own discord app to change the images

And then change the client ID in code of the game

[analog radish]

I was able to do that

[hearty frost]

Already got this in cosmetics xD

[solid pivot]

Upload images to your app

names are

[analog radish]

pbut the image in the DiscordIdApp doesn't show on LRP

[solid pivot]

big:
mapfired
mapshipicon
small:
faceiconwhitevlbig
faceiconorangevlbig

And the level names, dunno the levelIconStrings of all levels tho

[analog radish]

I'll check, thx

[solid pivot]

The names are for these things

Doom HUD finally hid :D

I dunno why tho, havent changed anything, so I guess its still not working all the time

[hearty frost]

It's only if you die with it/exit reload without going back to ship right?

[solid pivot]

Its fixed now :3

Tested it 5 times now with different enemies killing me

[hearty frost]

Lets freaking goooo! 😄 Including suicide as well and exited lobby and relaunching?

[solid pivot]

Modpack creators, listen! What stuff do you wish from AC to help you? What do you find in other mods useful for customizing your modpack (like Discord Rich Presence) you want to see AC replace to be a good foundation mod for modpacks?

[analog radish]

found it

[solid pivot]

I want AC to be the #1 solution for modpack creators

[analog radish]

Thx!

[hearty frost]

@solar girder I know would be interested in this question!

[analog radish]

I'd love it

[solid pivot]

thats funny because in code it shows me different names XD

            if (firingPlayersCutsceneRunning)
            {
                DiscordController.Instance.status_Details = "Getting fired";
                DiscordController.Instance.status_largeImage = "mapfired";
            }
            else if (!GameNetworkManager.Instance.gameHasStarted)
            {
                DiscordController.Instance.status_Details = "In orbit (Waiting for crew)";
                DiscordController.Instance.status_largeImage = "mapshipicon";
            }
            else if (inShipPhase)
            {
                DiscordController.Instance.status_Details = "Orbiting " + currentLevel.PlanetName;
                DiscordController.Instance.status_largeImage = "mapshipicon";
            }
            else
            {
                DiscordController.Instance.status_Details = HUDManager.Instance.SetClock(TimeOfDay.Instance.normalizedTimeOfDay, TimeOfDay.Instance.numberOfHours, createNewLine: false);
                DiscordController.Instance.status_largeText = "On " + currentLevel.PlanetName;
                if (currentLevel.levelIconString != "")
                {
                    DiscordController.Instance.status_largeImage = currentLevel.levelIconString;
                }
            }

Let me guess, thats from a mod you use?

@analog radish And I am sorry, you will have it much more easy now to add your logo

[hearty frost]

Bro about to say you'll be able to drag and drop and no need for cs compile xD

[solid pivot]

Just create a simple plugin without any DLL containing an image called Logo.png and if you want to enforce it to be the one taken I will have a cfg file again for AC to set this up.

[tropic frigate]

discord rich presence feels a bit unnecessary to have

[hearty frost]

joke/ AC will have inbuilt compiler 👀 🤣

[tropic frigate]

i feel like discord rich presence would be better suited for its own mod?

[solid pivot]

cfg file will be high level config :)

Why? Its an optional thing. You dont have to set it in cfg

the cfg file is basically for modpack creators

[hearty frost]

This actually would be the simpliest way to do it tbh, for people wanting to jsut change the flavours

Someone about to play ac/dc in LC xD

No way Destiny peeps in LC now xD

[solid pivot]

I want to give modpack creators some time to get back to me, so I might release 1.1 and a 1.1.1 later with modpack stuff

after that its 1.2 beta time

[analog radish]

Oof

[solid pivot]

:'D

You can keep your DLL tho, it will still work like that

Both ways are supported :)

[analog radish]

I get it, dw

[analog radish]

thx!

[solid pivot]

ShowDefaultPresets will hide the "Default", "Alternative", "Vanilla" if set to false

[analog radish]

Because my modpack is quite focused with your mod and your settings menu

[solid pivot]

StandardPreset is the name of the preset you want to be selected on a new savefile

If StandardPreset is given and SkipPresets is true => Preset will be selected and window will be skipped

LogoFilename is basically standard "Logo.png". Its the name AC will look for in plugins folder

So you can set it to MyUltimateModpackLogo.png

so it wont use any other Logo.png :D

[analog radish]

that's cool

and a lot easier 💀

[solid pivot]

I am sorry @steady light There will be even more logs in 1.1 BUT they will now be debug level

All those patching patched messages :)

I mean they were on a wrong level to begin with. They are meant for debugging if someone has a problem anyway

So I guess its a good compromise

[hearty frost]

It's a good move to be honest, less confusion maybe. If people want to see it, not hard to stick debug in the logging anyway 😛

[solid pivot]

I even need that log if something goes wrong starting the game etc.

freshly started game :)

(Without debug level)

[hearty frost]

ow wow wonder where the 100 lines of AdvancedCompany gone! 👀 less speculation 😉

[hearty frost]

Amazing flavors! o.o

[solid pivot]

Yesh!

Potatoeish flavour!

Remember that I will summarize all changes from all betas for the 1.1 changelog. It will be thicc

The largest changelog LC modding has ever seen

because I am sure some people still play 1.0.11

Because they were like: Nah, wont join beta, which is fine. IT was a bumpy road tbh

We had a lot of weird errors

some stuff from beta changelog wont make it into 1.1 tho as they were changes to stuff the beta added etc. of course

[analog radish]

Oof

[solid pivot]

?

[analog radish]

nah, this.
I didn't knew that people still plays in 1.0.11

[solid pivot]

I mean its reasonable?

It still works and was more stable sometimes than a beta

Beta was a bumpy road

so far:

I will have to look over it before release again but this is nearly finished :)

[soft spoke]

came looking for a fix for this, thank you! 🙏🏻

[zinc prawn]

I'm sorry in case this has been asked a lot around here before, but can perk progress be saved separately, based on which save file I'm using?

[wild silo]

It's a deviation type thing. #1186884307332108339 message

[torpid ginkgo]

ohh-- so the highee the number, the more random

[eternal mauve]

Is this at the start of the game?

[lost python]

You just need to untick the Save progress option under Game tab

[keen field]

This is a cool mod, using it in my new pack

[ancient dock]

I would be willing to pay money for the option have everything this mod does that is different from vanilla turned off, and then let me only turn on what I want. I have known about this mod for a while, and wanted to use it for a number of it's features, but also held off, because I don't want more than half of what it adds. I'm digging through all the configs right now, and I really wish I didn't have to go through all of this just to get the parts I want. I recognize most players don't care as much as I do, and are probably fine with the majority of what Advanced Company offers. That is why I said I'd pay for the trouble of needing to add this functionality. This mod looks to be well made and well maintained, which is really impressive. It just does a lot more than what I'm looking for.

[meager cradle]

Isn't there a vanilla preset for this very case? Just use that, save as a new preset, and then edit/save that newly saved preset for the stuff you want in?

[zinc prawn]

it's that simple? lol

[ancient dock]

I didn't see that? This is my first time trying to use the mod, so I am unfamiliar

if that is the case, that is very nice to have, I appreciate that they have that already.

[lost python]

By extension, you can also set the starting XP if you untick the Save progress option

but of course, the xp progress for you and your friends will be tied to that save file and not globally

[ancient dock]

I see it now. I just didn't know what I was doing/looking for

[zinc prawn]

I mean... that is precisely what I want

[lost python]

yeah then you're set 👍

[meager cradle]

Ye, I think the only heads up about the "Mostly Vanilla" preset is the weather modifiers from default AC are still populated, but are able to be tweaked/disabled, everything else as far as I see of it is vanilla

[zinc prawn]

do perks reset after being fired?

in that case?

[ancient dock]

only thing I caught was that lasso man is still enabled

[lost python]

Yes, you go back to whatever Player XP you set the save file to when you get fired

[meager cradle]

True, but moot point since Lasso's weight on all maps by default is set to 0 so it shouldn't spawn

[ancient dock]

fair.

Will/Is it possible for Advanced Company to adjust the spawns of custom moon mods?

[lost python]

Yes

Through the Moons tab

[ancient dock]

I have several custom moons installed, but I only see the vanilla moons in the moons tab

[lost python]

You need to host the game first then leave the game

[ancient dock]

ah, okay

[lost python]

then go back to Host and this part

It should be visible by then

[zinc prawn]

Okay. At this point I only have question left, and sorry if it is ignorant, but why is this not the default setting?

What's the use-case scenario where you would wanna have the same perk progression for all your saves?

[ancient dock]

just like generating the config files for the first time with most mods, got it.

[lost python]

In the past, this option did not exist and it was, by default, global until the huge update of having the in-game config menu happened iirc

But I cannot claim to know why it wasn't the default setting in the first place

[zinc prawn]

yea that's what I'm wondering too

either way, I got everything figured out that I wanted, so cheers!

[split mist]

Hey @solid pivot, what layer are cosmetics rendered on so that they don't show up in first person, and is there a way to apply that to lights? Currently working on some custom lighting for a cosmetic but the light renders in first person. Wondering if that's something I can change in Unity or what.

[lost python]

Oh hold on, I might be misremembering some stuff 🤔

I do remember there being a File.cfg in the past which I think have the option to set the save progress to True or False. But it's been so long so let me check if I can find the version that had this stuff

[split mist]

The lights rendering in first person are specifically an issue cuz this is a HAT cosmetic, otherwise wouldn't really bother me

[lost python]

I found it @zinc prawn

So in the past, player perks progress was saved in your profile and there was not a save progress in save files until much later. If you set this to true, it will apply to all profiles

[zinc prawn]

wait so

by profile, do we mean modding profile, or like specific save file (in game, that you have 3 of by default)

[lost python]

Yes, the modding profile itself

like

These.

[zinc prawn]

huh

but that doesn't matter for me much.
What I wanna achieve is to be able to play with two friends on separate IN GAME saves with the perk progression separated

however this does seem to work after unticking that setting you said earlier

[lost python]

Regarding the use-case scenarios, I can only think of like, a group just wanting to not have their perks reset after they are fired and want to have their perks to persist for other saves in the case where the save file they played on was deleted

[zinc prawn]

Hmm. The first one I do get, and would like to even try someday. But it'd be nice to still have that without the global thing.

[lost python]

that and different people hosting in the group

[zinc prawn]

Like have 3 different perk progressions aside each other that don't reset when being fired.

[lost python]

i know some groups don't really have only one hoster

[zinc prawn]

On different saves with different people.

[zinc prawn]

okay that I genuinely haven't thought about

oh yea that must be it

[lost python]

yeah it's not really a problem for my friend group as i am the one hosting (since they don't want to suffer the same way I do)

[zinc prawn]

yea basically same situation for me

[lost python]

though either way, i can just give them the json file but nah they lazy 💤

[hearty frost]

FPS drops from hosting is so painful, dedicated servers in future... maybeeee :3

[zinc prawn]

although we might try something different, as I've been having some performance issues lately, and one of their stations has a bit more horsepower afaik

[lost python]

FPS actually drops from hosting?

[hearty frost]

In my isolated scenarios from what I have seen, yes.

[lost python]

idk if this sounds like a dumb question or not

but wth 💀

[hearty frost]

It's P2P connection, the host is constantly validating data between clients.

[zinc prawn]

I've asked around about this as well and got a pretty fair answer

[hearty frost]

Try not hosting, you should notice a nice difference - especially if you got got a solid connection/questionable internet 😛

[zinc prawn]

"client gets alot more fps, due to the host whom needs to legit carry the server input and carry it out to all clients that only need to receive that data so in reality being a host is 2x the effort as a client user"

[lost python]

that may be why my gpu is constantly at 80-90% lmfao

[hearty frost]

It's why everyone says MC runs smother, because it literally syncs nothing 😛

[hearty frost]

Nah you shouldn't notice a crazy different with GPU when hosting vs being client 😛 Depending on your settings a game will always use most resources from GPU 😛

[subtle elbow]

Hi, sorry if this has been addressed already, but is it this mod that is giving extra inventory space above the normal 4 slots? If not, pls ignore this msg

[hearty frost]

RAM/CPU you might see some little difference but probs not noticable tbh.

[zinc prawn]

it can

and a bunch more stuff too

[hearty frost]

^ It can, if Inventory Slots perk set to 300% base.

[zinc prawn]

but technically, yes

[subtle elbow]

would it be recommended to use advanced company and late game upgrades separately?

[lost python]

Yes and you also have the 3 body equipment slots at the right side

[lost python]

Nah i use both and they work well. Just disable stuff that offers the same functionality (e.g. Running Shoes and Sprint Speed perk)

[solid pivot]

I dont think light works like that in unity. You need to use light layers and I dont use anything regarding that in AC

[hearty frost]

You can use both together, just disable stuff that's replicated between the mods. Also Default AC starts with 3 bag slots.

[subtle elbow]

cool, thanks for the help both of you

[split mist]

Sounds good, thanks Potatoe.

[subtle elbow]

have a good day

[hearty frost]

You too! ❤️

[split mist]

Lights don't show up in the preview window either, but I'm not sure how fixable that is.

[hearty frost]

Emissive texture?

[split mist]

Emissive textures definitely work in that regard but then have no atmospheric lighting or lighting on the player

Might have to do that, though, cuz I can't really think of another way

Just sucks cuz emissive textures actively make the cosmetics look worse tbh

[hearty frost]

Ow I get you, you actually want an actual lighting from the item!

Sorry my bad 😛

[split mist]

All good, only a tiny bit for the sake of it looking good

Emissive textures look out of place otherwise I wouldn't care

I don't know enough about code to fix this so idk if I can have lights on the face cosmetics, which sucks ass

[hearty frost]

I wonder if our boi Potatoe can hook cosmetics up with this for doing said things cause it would be nice for cosmetics to be able to emit light as well!

Like the staffs you got, to be able to give them actual lighting would be so nice

@solid pivot Gif us pleeease :3

[split mist]

I wasn't gonna ask that of him personally cuz I can't imagine it'd be an easy fix, but I would not complain about making this an AdvancedCompany compatible mod only 😛

[hearty frost]

In all fairness this could be cool in general if Potatoe knows anything because this could be a nice little immersive feature (optional too) for his items. Like rocket boots actually emitting light when they're being used etc.

[split mist]

I know the lights show up in MoreCompany's previewer at least (just tested), but MoreCompany has the same issue otherwise. It's definitely an issue of the lights just being too close to the player's camera.

[split mist]

With some additional tests, items with lights work in base MoreCompany but are incompatible (aka render in first person) with Mirrors, TooManyEmotes, and AdvancedCompany (since I did try without AdvancedCompany but with the other two enabled).

MoreCompany alone: no lights in face
AdvancedCompany alone: lights in face
MoreCompany + Mirrors: cosmetics don't render at all
AdvancedCompany + Mirrors + TME: lights in face

May have to drop this as a bug report to get Potatoe to fix in his own time

[solar girder]

oh for me its simple i copy the creator jpg and png names and replace it with my own images

[solar girder]

biggest boy i ever seen

dang the newer version went up by 500 downloads after that change

also i hope people actually read the README to fix their console errors

its simple as updating every mod

i cant find a way to update these mods even though i added them to my modpack

these are dependencies

when everything is updated there will be no errors in the logs

[opal turret]

question, is there a way to make perks to be skilled up with money rather than XP?

[wild silo]

no
that's pretty much what lategame upgrades does..

[opal turret]

I know, that's why I ask

[frigid crystal]

flashlights will turn on if i place them into the cabinet

[rich basin]

Thats a vanilla bug

[river oasis]

I don't think that's an issue with AC

[meager cradle]

Yeah that's a vanilla bug

[sharp lintel]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ShaosilGaming/FlashlightFix/

[sharp lintel]

Then it must be an AC problem that the flashlight fix is not working well.

[magic tendon]

It's vanilla bug, not AC

[solar girder]

vanilla bug buddy

[frigid crystal]

Yes its a vanilla bug that AC is not fixing

its working again rn

[frosty yarrow]

If WeatherMultipliers isn't needed with AdvancedCompany, where can we modify the percentage increases for weather? I don't see it anywhere in the settings.

Oh nvm. It's on the last Moon tab at the bottom.

[frigid crystal]

Mk

[sonic vale]

anyone knows if AC override scrap amount and value if you completely disable weather multipliers in config?

i want another mod to handle those multipliers (brutal company minus) and i'm not sure that AC isn't overriding that

it seemed to me that there was pretty cheap scrap spawned even when i disabled AC multipliers, like giant gear for 30 credits

[solar girder]

its there

[solar girder]

you could just mix lategame and remove a few perks from the AC and and see which is better and once you are done click save and play

[split mist]

@solid pivot TooManyEmotes has a fix for the lights rendering in first person that may need to be applied on AdvancedCompany's end as well (or a similar fix since I doubt this slots in perfectly in your code). Either way, figured the reference might help. Posted on Github as well.

[karmic bridge]

How do I remove perks and some of the items? I like some of the stuff offered in advance company but I don't want everything

nvm found out how to mess with items, can I still turn off perks?

oh i did not know they were confirguarable before you start a lobby

im a bit special!

[lost python]

Do you want to keep the portable terminal?

If not, you can just disable portable terminal and then you don't have to worry about perks.

If so, just disable every perk in the Perks menu

also yeah take your time exploring the host configs 👍

[karmic bridge]

Where is the config that allows you to hold the default 4 items?

[lost python]

Carry bags perk, set it to 400%

Oh right, it has a different name in the host config

It should be called Inventory slots under Perks tab

[sonic jetty]

Is the source code for this mod availible?

nvm I checked pins :)

nvm there's no code on the github lol

[austere moth]

can you use reserveitemslots with advanced company?

[split mist]

no

AdvancedCompany adds Helmet Lamps, Headsets, and Tactical Helmets that are designed to be more balanced versions of ReservedSlots

[austere moth]

Thank you!!!

i uninstalled it from my pack then tysm

[split mist]

Np!

[lost python]

You can use ReservedSprayPaint however 👀

it just becomes an extra slot in your main inventory

(which you need to access by pressing Left Alt by default but AC also uses Left Alt but you can rebind it)

[austere moth]

oh gotcha

also any idea why i only have 3 slots for hotbar?

this is my first time using advanced company sorry for dumb questions 😭

[lost python]

Nah it's not a dumb question since it is your first time using it. It does have lots of featurs to uncover

But anyway to answer your question, AC has 3 slots by default because normally you get 500 Player XP when you host a game which you can use to allocate towards the Carry bags perk by accessing the portable terminal (the default keybind for this is X, you can change it to another keybind under the Settings option in the main menu)

On the other hand, you can also modify it to have 4 slots by default by going to the Perks tab when you host a save and then scrolling down until you see "Inventory slots". Change the value from 300% to 400% and make sure to only have 6 upgrades in the text field (as you cannot have more than 10 inventory slots)

[austere moth]

Ohhhhhh okokok thank you so much 😭

[sullen ravine]

man

what are these bunny ears

[lost python]

||If you pick it up, you will be cursed to only jump towards a direction that you have your directional keys are on||

||So like you have to press W+Space to move forward and such||

||The cursed is lifted when you return to the ship, and will simply become a high value scrap.||

||You can only remove it from yourself if you return to the ship (this means being teleported as well as the item will drop on the ground)||

[sullen ravine]

thats stupid

i like it

[lost python]

indeed

there's another cursed item btw :)

||It goes to your boots slot, it's called Light Shoes||

[sullen ravine]

i will figure that out myself

thank you, heh

[lost python]

Have fun 👍

[sullen ravine]

oh i can hear my thoughts now

neat

[lapis bone]

for the rocket launcher, can it kill creatures or just able to distract them?

[meager cradle]

I presume you mean the Missile Launcher
It's only used to distract monsters, particularly Giants & Dogs

The Rocket Launcher from Lethal Things however CAN kill certain creatures, exercise caution using it ofc

[lost python]

I thought the missile launcher from AC can damage dogs 🤔

[meager cradle]

It can? That's news to me

[lost python]

I'll try to confirm this notion 👀

[meager cradle]

Pack a lot of missile launchers cause dogs have a ton of HP lol

[lapis bone]

agree, even for rocket launcher in LT, it takes 3 shots to get killed

[lost python]

surely

not to mention the missile launchers don't really follow the exact direction that you point it to

[lapis bone]

wtf? i may stick to the rocket launcher then😂

[meager cradle]

Ye the Missile Launcher tbh is more of an alternative to LT's Flare Gun

[lapis bone]

ive never tried flare gun, is that mean when i facing a dog, i can shoot a flare and the dog will go after it without hearing me shooting it?

[meager cradle]

If you're not nearby the dog then yes, if the dog is nearby you then it'll prob still go after specifically you

I don't really like how the flare gun operates in LT, AC's version feels much nicer

[lapis bone]

i may try flare gun in future, rocket launcher still not a good option to against the dog

[lapis bone]

wts the difference?

[lost python]

okay yeah no it doesn't damage them

I launched 30 fireworks to a dog, only distracted him lmao

the missile launcher can distract giants and dogs for quite a while

so it's very useful

[meager cradle]

tl;dr from 2 different runs I've done on say, March (or a similar location that has a Giant)
I'll point the missile launcher off in the distance from the back of the ship, Giant goes off in the distance where the fireworks missile exploded and will resume their AI after a certain time

I'll point the flare gun off in the distance from the back of the ship, if Giant didn't notice the flare, they'd just go to the back of the ship instead, and never leave the spot until someone aggros it

[lost python]

kinda makes sense since fireworks to be big so it's easy to spot

but yeah the giant will just immediately turn towards where the fireworks was shot at

[meager cradle]

idk if I'm using it wrong or something, but there's just some sort of inconsistency when using the flare gun that I kinda don't like, which bums me cause I like how reusable it is with the flares lols

[marble summit]

is there a way to jump to the top of the chat

[meager cradle]

May come off as nitpicky a bit, but I like how AC's one operates, but I like how LT's one is reusable with its ammo system

[meager cradle]

As in the initial post that advertises the mod or smth?

[marble summit]

yeah

like if you were to scroll up

[meager cradle]

Check pins, generally the first post is the one that advertises the mod

Hopefully that's what you're looking for . < .

Thankfully something like that exists cause it'd be an eternity scrolling up yourself with how many messages that has accumulated in this thread alone lol

[marble summit]

yeah it worked thanks

seems like a cool mod

[lapis birch]

could any ac expert help me clean my modpack from stuff that ac replaces? finally got this mod and have no idea what im doing

[solar girder]

I thought it can kill groups of brackens 🤔

[hearty frost]

Missile launcher for distracting 😛 Like Giants, if you shoot one the giant should go towards it 😛

FIgured out something interesting too. When LC is in 1080p it constantly used 99% of GPU, 720p using 38-41% GPU. Interesting.

[steady kite]

It freezes for everyone when you take out the tablet to upgrade. Why does the tablet show the player's screen what he is pumping? Perhaps this is why there is such a synchronous load or something similar?

If you turn off the demonstration from the leveling tablet to others, will the load go down or will it be the same? Just curious

[hearty frost]

You're only the second person to report a "freeze" for everyone in lobby when taking out tablet.

[steady kite]

There are 2 options - a large number of mods, or something else

Or the fact that there are a lot of items in the store

[hearty frost]

Hopefully not just because of large volume of mods, doesn't make sense tbh with that sort of thing with animations being synced? The other report was also from a person who had a pretty hefty mod collection. 😛 But I don't think in this case it relates to mod size but rather maybe what's being added to the terminal.

[steady kite]

Exactly

Why does it load the image like a person switches something there?

Maybe turn off this information and the load will become lighter?

I just checked it without mods

+- it was also

[hearty frost]

Yeah the Portable Terminal screen is synced, so you can actually see what other people are doing with their terminals.

[steady kite]

Why is this needed?

[hearty frost]

Like if they're doing perks, you can see them upgrade perks.

[steady kite]

Watch some dude speed up? xD

[hearty frost]

Asthetics? We've seen no issues from isolated lowerend systems.

[steady kite]

Who needs this aesthetic?

If it causes a load

I just want to make sure whether this is true or not

If not, then I am silent and no longer indignant...

[ember jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/aba-goku-hacker-funny-roblox-gif-21620620

[hearty frost]

Suggest on Github 😛

[steady kite]

I don't even know how to describe it

And it’s unlikely they will check...

[steady kite]

😛 - do you have a habit?

[hearty frost]

Potatoe specifically checks Github.

Sidenote sad that this doesn't work with 1.0.7

[steady kite]

Then I'll try to write everything down

[hearty frost]

Please do 😛

[steady kite]

Can I ping an application on GitHub here? @hearty frost

Or will I be punished? >.<

[hearty frost]

Huh?

You've posted on Github, you're all done! 🙂

[steady kite]

Yeah, I'll wait for an answer... Like Hachiko

I'm just interested in knowing how everything works in order to optimize the assembly

But I'm still tormented by LLL and LE

Eternal war and optimization...

For me now, the most complex mods are GI and AC - which combine many small mods for improvements or corrections. Supporting such mods is very difficult, since they have a lot of functionality. Worthy of respect

[wild silo]

@hearty frost What's the current state of latest LLL and AC? Like which settings are respected and which are not? Does one override the other and to what extent? Can I clear the settings from LLL config like scrap lists and have AC handle that? I know you said the per moon toggle in LLL config doesn't work so I was thinking maybe that's an option - clearing all the moon settings. I do like the new LLL very much for changing the size of custom interiors that's why I don't want to roll back to the older version. I'd rather not configure scraps and route prices then..

[hearty frost]

LLL override by default, if you use AC to override - then AC overrides.

So like if I set the price on AC, it will override the price of LLL.

[solar girder]

Guys i just thought of something when if i make a banner similar to Verbalase 50k thingy the city etc and make them both LCGuy

[wild silo]

ok sounds good so far. For loot table that means I'd have to check override for every scrap on every moon in AC?
What happens if I clear the entire loot string in LLL config?

[solar girder]

though ill only use the banner once PotatoePet finishes making it

[solar girder]

should i? lol

its for HideNSeek Modpack

[hearty frost]

Clearing string in LLL don't really do anything. You'll still need to set it in AC if you don't want LLL values to be applied.

[solar girder]

it would fit right

lol

[hearty frost]

Also a HUGE warning if you're using new LLL after 1.0.7 - Do not save whilst on custom moons, if you do that save will be broken and you wont be able to use it. Always route somewhere else like company (because company route doesn't cost days).

[wild silo]

woah that's wild. Thanks for heads up man!

[solar girder]

wat

[steady kite]

I've never noticed this, I'll test it

[hearty frost]

No need to test, it's confirmed.

[solar girder]

my moons are fine

[solar girder]

maybe cause i edit them and save the configs lol

[hearty frost]

No it's a LLL vs LE issue.

[solar girder]

dang

[solar girder]

no im saving its fine for me

on the new version

cause i dont save normally lol

anyways this is how my modpack goes when u download it

im still trying to find a way to updated these 6 dependencies

they wont update even after adding them to the modpack they always have to be manually updated by the person who downloaded it

i put "Outdated" to let you know which ones are

[hearty frost]

Because you're using OLDER version.

Which I stated.

[solar girder]

OH

yeah but i always update them

everytime i download my own modpacks

[hearty frost]

Is not V1.1.4

[solar girder]

i just made another profile

[solar girder]

yeah

thats a new profile i made

[hearty frost]

So this doesn't apply to you, does it? 😛

[solar girder]

i mean i dont use the outdated ones

[hearty frost]

1.1.3 is outdated.

[solar girder]

ik

im saying i update every mod

but i didnt for this time

[hearty frost]

...

[solar girder]

i made a whole new profile for my modpack

cause i dont know how to fix my outdated mod issues

but yeah i will only leave that one outdated

[hearty frost]

Change dependency in your manifest?

You can point to what ever version you want.

[solar girder]

i tried adding the newer version it didnt work for an odd reason

it might be cause other mods that uses it made it use a lower version but i might make another modpack to see if that fixes it
and link it to the mainpack

[hearty frost]

I know mods do this but I assumed if you've made your own manifest entry this shouldn't apply? Version 1.1.3 has a bug where inside enemies are spawned outside 😛

[solar girder]

but yeah this helps alot

[solar girder]

wot

[hearty frost]

I should've clarified Version 1.1.4 with custom moons tbh

But versions after 1.0.7 have a handful of issues regardless.

[solar girder]

ill force downgrade that then

[hearty frost]

1.1.4 fixes those issues after 1.0.7. but comes with the issue of custommoons breaking your game on reloaded saves.

[solar girder]

i might have to be worried about that

[hearty frost]

1.0.7 is most stable atm and less invasive (if that's the right word).

[solar girder]

ill stay with 1.0.7

[hearty frost]

Only 2 more days anyway and Batby is back and can look at stuff. 😛

[solar girder]

😄

[hearty frost]

I am only fiddling with 1.1.4 right now because of the new pool interior

[solar girder]

backrooms?

oh shit people should make a backrooms interior

but not the yellow one

since that already exists

[hearty frost]

No a swimming pool interior

[solar girder]

oh

[hearty frost]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/skidz/PoolRooms/

[solar girder]

i see

looks like a star now

[hearty frost]

Bugs me core not in middle ._. hehehe

[solar girder]

oh yeah my bad

Core was the first one i made i should respect it more

[hearty frost]

Respect the Core More 😄

[solar girder]

there

the core uses a AI audio voice for the Apparatus when its taken out

which is why i tag it as a mod itself

which it is a mod

that requires PizzaTowerEscapeMusic

[deep knoll]

are there currently any cursed scrap items in advanced company?

[solar girder]

there are

[deep knoll]

what are they

[solar girder]

the bunny ears and (light boots i believe)

and a 3rd one coming out

[deep knoll]

cool

[solar girder]

nearly done

[deep knoll]

they must be pretty rare

yeah i saw the doom guy clip lol

[solar girder]

u can change to very common

[deep knoll]

what do they do?

[solar girder]

yeah do you liked the LCGuy character i made for it?

[deep knoll]

you can find it here #mod-showcase message

[solar girder]

ik

i was just asking if u liked it

the character i made for doom guy

for AC

[deep knoll]

very cool

[solar girder]

thanks 👍

[solar girder]

hold on

thats an outdated one

[deep knoll]

oh

[solar girder]

let me show you a newer one that was posted

this

and this #1203046530370637894 message

[deep knoll]

very cool

does the item also spawn enemies or was that just increased spawns for testing?

[solar girder]

it increased enemy spawns only around you by 10x i believe

and everything is killable

even coilheads

jesters etc u named it

[solar girder]

once you are in the ship every cursed item effects turns off

[deep knoll]

thats super fun

really lets you use the item, and also makes it a bit more dangerous

[solar girder]

i just checked it has the highest download compare to the newer versions lol of LLL

[hearty frost]

The list you gave said otherwise, you were a version behind.

[solar girder]

ik

[hearty frost]

I misunderstand I think :S

Ow wait I understand xD Newer versions will always have or should have almost least amount of downloads because they're more recent.

[solar girder]

so this is right?

[solar girder]

and yet 1.0.7 has the highest about 1 million

[hearty frost]

1.0.7 is before the major changes to terminal with sorting etc.

[solar girder]

oh

[hearty frost]

After that is when Batby added the sorting/filtering etc with percentage rates and rarieties to dungeon etc.

[solar girder]

i already made an icon under 3 mins since i already made it yesterday, since i planned to mix it with the banners that AC will allowed in their new mod

[hearty frost]

Also got custom moons working with 1.1.4 LLL

[solar girder]

so they work, just they only break on reload right?

or does it work now?

by putting it false gotcha

[hearty frost]

yeah

[solar girder]

this should be an easy fix for my modpack then

[hearty frost]

@solar girder There's a but coming now, I need to confirm first two secs

Nevermind that might of been Malfunctions doing what I saw then, Ignore me.

[solar girder]

hmm odd i cant find LethalLevelLoader configs

[hearty frost]

It generates when you load up.

[solar girder]

how did u get that screen

oh

[hearty frost]

But a but is coming actually now I think

[solar girder]

but

[hearty frost]

It worked with Asteroid but not for Gratar.

[solar girder]

i cant find it after loading a game still

[hearty frost]

Version 1.1.0-1.1.4 should have the cfg.

[solar girder]

mine is version 1.1.3

cause i redownloaded everything again

[hearty frost]

Interesting that LLL is using older version of LethalLib

[solar girder]

i updated that lol

i had ton of errors when Lib wasnt updated

and every console error went away after updating that

[hearty frost]

This is so strange

Gratar just worked for me when loading a save

I am so confused

[solar girder]

?

what happened

[hearty frost]

I reloaded my save with custom moon Gratar, now it worked.

[solar girder]

THE CONFIG WORKS

[hearty frost]

It's like 30/70 chance to work or not.

[solar girder]

for 1.1.4 not 1.1.3

boi what the hell

[hearty frost]

This is what happens though when it tries to generate

[solar girder]

i cant find it

found it

hold on cant i just do this?

[hearty frost]

it doesn't fix it I said it just gives a change for it to load apparently 😛 so for 30/70 of chance of it loading

Yeah you'd need to set it to true 😛

But it's weird

sometimes it is on terminal and then sometiems it's not so it's legit as they've said it seems LE just fights with LLL

LLL seems to win most of the time though haha

[solar girder]

dang i never lagged this much in a moon before

on kast even though i played it alot of times

no console errors

i like AC already overrides it

with the prices etc on LLL

[hearty frost]

So it's interesting scrap the 30/70. Just seems on game launch reloading a save with custom moon is fine. But if you try reload a save that's already on custom moon whilst game already been loaded then it doesn't work.

Yeah AC overrides if you choose it to do so 😛

[solar girder]

oooo

i got it

[hearty frost]

You see what I mean now? ^^

That's the issue between LE and LLL

[solar girder]

but yeah nah i think ill stay on 1.0.7

since its just for hideNSeek

ngl it feels it takes more then 5 mins for it to get uploaded to thunderstore it takes me 20 mins or an hour to get it in the app

bad news extra didnt work or maybe i have to put it on top of CORE

than it will load before core can

[hearty frost]

Interesting the poolrooms have blacklisted LLL from configurating its generation.

[solar girder]

i donno why i believe Csync takes my fps away

[hearty frost]

How so? 😛

[solar girder]

since before i updated facility meltdown i got like 90-100 now its 60-70 with Csync or might have been LLL

[hearty frost]

You're solo right now thought yeah?

[solar girder]

yes

solo

always been solo testing

[hearty frost]

So can't be csync probs 😛 It's for syncing to other clients. You're not syncing to anyone right now 😛

Turn debug on and see if there's any activity from it

[solar girder]

how do i do that

[hearty frost]

add 'debug' to your loglevel or just replace all string with 'all'

[solar girder]

where the heck

in LLL?

oh a mod?

[hearty frost]

Bepin.. 😛

[solar girder]

oh

ill do that after i finish testing if adding a modpack above all makes it to download those mods before CORE

[burnt sandal]

when we got to the ship w it last time it just got stuck on another player's head, and only they could ||hear the music and see the effects||, the item also disappeared forever lmao

[solar girder]

good news this fixed it

all mods are updated but LLL

ill give people some news on that

[lost python]

weird

[dim knoll]

using lc api i still get "version mismatch" when my friends try to join my lobby

their version is 16000 something and mine is v49 or the other way

anyway we have the exact same mods folder

exact same game folder more generally

anyone know what's happening ?

[hearty frost]

Because LC_API adds numbers to version number. Go into the cfg and force modded servers. See if that helps.

[solid pivot]

Sorry, was away yesterday, enjoying some me time

1.1.0 is uploaded now

[magic tendon]

Is it possible to add a teleporters that have a configurable option to teleport all AC items with the player, because with the normal teleporter mods doesn't work

[steady kite]

AC was updated, but I didn't see the update log...

I found

[analog radish]

1.0.150 is 1.1.0?

[solid pivot]

Oh, I didnt update the manifest correctly, right? Sadge

Happens, yes. 1.0.150 is 1.1.0

[wild silo]

holy mother of a changelog

[solid pivot]

Its everything which is relevant from 1.0 to 1.1

[wild silo]

ik. it's nice to see all the progress you made consolidated tho

[steady kite]

I didn't understand anything either

[solid pivot]

Wow, OK. I will reupload the release with 0 changes. Its OK

[steady kite]

Good job :3

[solid pivot]

Unnecessary work

[steady kite]

I'm starting to realize that I don't understand anything

And I like it 😂

[wild silo]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322

[steady kite]

Is it even necessary to include that the console was calmer?

Or could they cause problems?

[solid pivot]

https://github.com/FluffyFishGames/AdvancedCompany/wiki/API

[solid pivot]

If you have those mods its nice for you but I wont give you any support as soon as I see LogNeuter or CleanerLogs in your mod list

[steady kite]

cool, but what if you turn them off?
I just wrote on GitHub

It's clear

[steady kite]

What's the problem with just turning them off and helping? Or is this your position? 😅

[wild silo]

You don't really need them. They are pseudofixes anyway. Get rid of them and of whatever is spamming your logs instead.

[steady kite]

Whoever has these mods is a bad person

[steady kite]

I'm going to delete them

[solid pivot]

Your logs will be butchered and I wont be able to find the stuff I need to see in them

[steady kite]

I understand it

That's why I'm going to get rid of them

If they do nothing to improve performance by reducing log spam

[solid pivot]

Best they can do is being painkillers

If log is spammed with exceptions and they prevent that from happening your basically having a wound and just ignore it and eat painkillers like they are smarties

[steady kite]

I understand it

It's just that some people told me that they find it easier to play with them, less load on the console

[solid pivot]

Going forward more and more stuff will be logged on Debug Level in AdvancedCompany

[steady kite]

And the game freezes a little less

[solid pivot]

Everything I deem mostly stable will get pushed back to debug level

[opaque plank]

It's hilarious when someone complains of something not working so you ask for their logs.
And they're just 10 lines long at most. 😔

[solid pivot]

Please fellow Devs: The API doc is there but the API will undergo heavy changes in the future :D

Some stuff is pretty safe to use like the flavour stuff and probably animation overrides, equipment and cosmetics

[steady kite]

When logs are needed, I disable them and send the correct logs

[solid pivot]

Post Processing is nice to use but it might undergo quite heavy changes soon.

To make them more comfortable to use

[steady kite]

I'm not such an idiot as to argue with these enabled mods and say that there are no problems

I'm checking everything

[opaque plank]

While we do appreciate those kind of people, you're not the majority.

[solid pivot]

Currently I do the naive approach of creating a volume profile for every state as soon as it happens. The better approach is to create only volume profiles necessary for added post processing effects and activate / deactivate them accordingly.

So if all mods only add all state and on all moons post processing effects there will only be one profile

If your mod adds a post processing effect just for Dine there will be a profile which is All States on Dine. And if you are on Dine this profile will get activated. So no multiple instances of your component any longer. Your component will then only be there once.

But for now it is like it is :D Use with caution :P

A lot more API stuff will come with 1.2

API section will be 10 times as large in 1.2, hahaha

[steady kite]

Is this good or bad?

[solid pivot]

One thing I forgot to mention was: Its best to add AdvancedCompany as a soft dependency if you want to access the API with checks beforehand if its loaded. For stuff like the Version Compability Checker

[steady kite]

More information in the console?

[solid pivot]

I will give you a simple cs file you can drag and drop into your project in 1.2 which works like a layer for some stuff you dont require AC for but might want to add soft dependency for :)

[steady kite]

Thank you

[solid pivot]

• void AdvancedCompany.Lib.Sync.AddSyncHandler<T>()
• void AdvancedCompany.Lib.Sync.SyncHandler.ItemSynchronization.AddItemType<T>()

These two options are not yet documented. :)

And in 1.2 Sync stuff will be improved with stuff like

• DataContainer<MyData> AdvancedCompany.Lib.Player.AddData<MyData>()
• MyData DataContainer<MyData>.GetDataFor(PlayerControllerB)

[steady kite]

so much information

[solid pivot]

You will later also be able to add new information to other objects like GrabbableObjects & Co.

AdvancedCompany will also use this system so you will be able to do the following as well:

• DataContainer<Perks> AdvancedCompany.Lib.Player.GetData<Perks>()

And then

• Perks.XP
• Perks.LevelOf(string)

etc.

That way you will be able to grant XP as well :)

But for XP stuff I will also add an abstraction layer like this

• void AdvancedCompany.Lib.AddXPHandler(string, IXPHandler)

Where first parameter is the name and second is the handler

Players will then be able to select the XP handling from a dropdown menu

AdvancedCompany will add 3 XP Handlers out of the box
"Vanilla", "Quota" and "PerRound"

IXPHandler will also work with the configuration system.

• AdvancedCompany.Configuration.Configuration IXPHandler.GetConfiguration()

So you will be able to add your own configuration stuff too

Thats basically a huge portion of the Roadmap for 1.2

There will of course also be stuff like this

• Moon AdvancedCompany.Lib.Moons.GetMoon(string)
• OverrideVariable Moon.Price
• OverrideVariable.AddMultiplier(string, float)
• OverrideVariable.RemoveMultiplier(string)

[covert notch]

What does the new update v1.1.0 bring?

[solid pivot]

See changelog. Its all of the beta changes and the ModPack.cfg + new cursed item

Less log spam as well :)

[covert notch]

oh excellent, how good I'll try it now

[solid pivot]

Imagine upgrading from 1.0.10 to 1.1.0

Whole new game

btw

I removed the Hall of Extraodinary Gentlemen entirely

[tropic frigate]

what are the beta changes?

[solid pivot]

Its funny tho how I become the toxic one when others were toxic towards me and my mod and I just showed it to the world

[solid pivot]

Problem with that is: Removing the inventory tweaks and make the mod work without them is easily 40-100 hours of work at at least 90€ per hour I doubt you want to pay me up to 9000€ for that feature.

Welcome to german taxes btw. 50% of your money would go to my big daddy, the german government

There are so many parts which rely on my inventory changes Maybe its not that much time by now as I already coming near it more and more, little step by step. But it might never really happen tho

You can by now deactivate 96% of the stuff AC changes gameplay wise

If you use the Vanilla preset you have only the hotbar changes and lobby stuff basically.

[wild silo]

and they spend that on useful things like infrastructure, right?

[solid pivot]

Yea, totally.... not

They pay our "guests" :3

And they pay themselves

And they spend a lot of money all around the world for more feminism in Nigeria or for bicycle lanes all around the world.

While our farmers are protesting because they wont get the same support they got last year.

But at least I can happily pay my taxes 🥲

Did you know that our chancellor (similiar to a president in US) is proven corrupt?

He was involed in the biggest tax robbery of german history

Better not think about all of that. There will be better times for sure :'D

[wild silo]

but he doesn't remember any of it so it's fine duh

[wide zealot]

1.1.0 stable finally dropped eh? Holy shit that large changelog from all the beta versions is huge XD

[solid pivot]

Yea, in front of court he has the best defense: "I dont remember"

[ancient dock]

I was oblivious when I posted that, and I didn't even realize there was a vanilla preset.

[ancient dock]

I wanted this stuff anyway

[wide zealot]

So for those of us that have been using the beta version, was anything new added in the Stable 1.1.0 build from the recent beta release?

Doom item added finally maybe?

XD

[pulsar tangle]

holy lord that changelog is huge

[wide zealot]

Oh yeah it is there

[ancient dock]

don't forget claiming to be more climate friendly while making the country more reliant on coal, and oil for energy.

[earnest lichen]

yeah its in there

[wide zealot]

Yeah most of it is the changes from all the beta builds

[pulsar tangle]

oh ok I see

[wide zealot]

But there's a few changes that were added new to the stable release, like the DOOM item

[pulsar tangle]

gonna read through all of it after reading other mods patchnotes

[wild silo]

cherry on top: in public television he jokes about that very line while putting on a smug grin

[wide zealot]

Rip I loved that easter egg XD

[magic tendon]

What was that doing, I didn't even have the time to see it

[wide zealot]

This is from when it was still called the Hall of Shame XD

[magic tendon]

I see 😄

[lapis flume]

oooh, its that log

[wild silo]

oh it's you. I recognize you from the PS YT video comment section. I wonder why my comments don't show. I used pretty much your exact wording replying that one guy about GI. I actually replied to like every single question but 80% of that got filtered..

[pulsar tangle]

lmao, yeah thats me xD weird that stuff got filtered but I thought so since you answered several people but that one dude was left out

[wild silo]

yeah glad you did. poor guy haha

I think I actually managed to make the whole comment thread disappear by editing the OP xD

[pulsar tangle]

Weird I clicked back on the video and I didnt see it and when going into my comment history I went back to the video and now I see your comment again

yeah clicking on the video via their channel it doesnt show your comment

[wild silo]

yea it's the same for me. I figure it's like shadown banned until approval or something.
but a dozen naked butts posting immediately after a video is released. that's fine - YT

[covert notch]

@solid pivot Plis Fix T-T

[pulsar tangle]

really looking forward to watch them being confused/dying by the masked xD but a solid starter pack so far

[dim knoll]

where does the logo.png file need to go ?

i tried in the config folder but doesn't seem to work

[solid pivot]

Anywhere in plugins folder, if you want to share it you have to upload a mod containing that file

[dim knoll]

works, thanks a lot !

[dim knoll]

this worked, thanks a lot

[eternal ivy]

Congratulations on release!

[wild silo]

yea it's gonna be a while until we could see that tho. Might switch them over to Mirage until then

[covert notch]

@solid pivot Also when I had the item in my hand and exited the game and re-entered the game image it stayed like this.

[pulsar tangle]

either that or increase the rate of the skinwalkers talking

[wild silo]

oh it's just not every enemy enabled in skinwalkers. Think it kinda ~~ruins ~~ spoils the experience when hoarding bugs scream yipee while simultaneously revealing that enemies copy your voice. the rate is default

[pulsar tangle]

yeah true didn't think of that. Makes sense

[hearty frost]

You're welcome 🙂

[prime sky]

@solid pivot So I'm assuming as far as modpack creators are concerned, if we are updating AdvancedCompany from 1.0.149 to 1.1.0, this is not enough to constitute a minor update change?
For example, if current modpack version is 1.0.1 it would be 1.0.2 not 1.1.0. In my case, this is the only thing being updated in the pack.

Unless there is someone else in here that can answer this question, I'd appreciate it.

[pulsar tangle]

The system you are using is called semantic versioning. First number represents major differences, second number is addition of features and last number represents fixes. For your modpack the changes made shouldn't alter the gameplay much (with only very little added I think? Correct me if I'm wrong) which would mean it's 1.0.2 in my opinion

[prime sky]

I had a feeling since from reading above nothing really changed it was more of "it is now out of beta" and now official version release. Appreciate the help!

Wanted to make sure there was nothing I was missing

[pulsar tangle]

Yeah afaik that seems to be the case with very little stuff added. I might be wrong tho.

[solid pivot]

1.0.149 to 1.1.0 is not that big of a change. Its a big change from 1.0.10 to 1.1.0

All the updates from 1.0.99 - 1.0.149 werde beta for 1.1.0

[bleak frigate]

seriously?

[ornate zealot]

thatsssss

there's no way that's real right?

[meager cradle]

Reported the issue on github for ya

[bleak frigate]

@solid pivot congrats on reaching 1.1.0 btw 😄
AC really came a long way been a long 2 months (3-4 months in development time)

[bleak frigate]

i would not be surprised

[ornate zealot]

oh wow it is

uh okay

hold up lemme get this straight

so the dude read from other mod creators that AC messes with the terminal

which, lets be honest, it kinda does change it a bit

[solid pivot]

I want to give people the reason why its that way and thats the reason

I was constantly told to look at the download numbers by people when I suggested other mods to adapt

I mean I did some stuff weird in the beginning maybe, yea. Would be a good thing to say what was wrong tho :) Some people might not realize this. I worked for the first time with BepInEx

[bleak frigate]

🤦

download numbers dont mean jack

[solid pivot]

For some they do it seems

[bleak frigate]

that's very lets say in a nice way, dumb.

[ornate zealot]

oop didn't merge the layer

[solid pivot]

I see it like you, thats the reason I started to add weird comments to the hall of shame but that was deemed ultra mega toxic

[solar girder]

that was quick

[steady nymph]

As somebody who has modded a lot of games for a while, download numbers almost never equate to quality. Just whether they worked at the time they were made. Fallout mods very much prove this with a lot of horribly written and broken mods rising to the top and sitting there because that's what everyone has used since it came out :/

[bleak frigate]

they really be treating AC as some kind of scapegoat for anything that goes wrong 😑

it is what it is i guess

[frigid crystal]

Thats not toxic XD

[solid pivot]

Really looking forward to see if Insym and group will play with AC again at some point or the same people shitting on my mod constantly is being toxic as ever and telling lies about me to prevent people from playing with AC

[steady nymph]

Also, this changelog was written a little confusing to me. Does it mean that AC was originally fixing a problem with the terminal and it may have caused some minor issues, so you reverted the change because a bunch of people were complaining?

[bleak frigate]

the latter

[solar girder]

see AC also never fails in our heart so i don't know why people talk trash about it like it some sort of scammed mod pretending to be something it is not or something that always cause problems?

[earnest lichen]

Personalized modpack logos. Very nice! Been using this mod since 1.0.10!

[bleak frigate]

reverted change cuz ppl complained @steady nymph

[frigid crystal]

AC is a gem

[solid pivot]

There are people who cancel certain mods they dont like by going to big streamers and telling them bullshit about these mods or their creators

[bleak frigate]

WHAT, how chronically online are these people are dude?

get a grip like holy jesus

[solid pivot]

Its sad, I only discovered this being real a week ago

I was wondering why nobody saw AC even tho it was top rated first page

[ornate zealot]

and most likely due to this v v v

they decided it was the best course of action to uh

NOT fix the terminal store, which if they did, would've fixed the bug that other mods are being affected by

and since it's not fixed, there's a chance that some people wouldn't want to download this mod BECAUSE of that bug causing other mods to have an issue with it

which in turn would probably lead to a lesser download count (which to be honest, doesn't necessarily always matter)

[bleak frigate]

you have a limited lifespan in this world, and you gonna spend it by complaining to streamers that they are playing with a mod you dont like
that is just so pathetic oh my god

[solid pivot]

Thats the world we live in today

One day they will be lying in their death bed and remember this time as the only thing they've ever accomplished in live

[steady nymph]

It's funny to me because Advanced Company has almost never been the culprit of an issue in my pack unless it was an explicitly stated incompatibility or something that would obviously conflict

[solid pivot]

yea, there are 10-15 incompatible mods

Some of them by design because I basically replace them as they were very small mods

And some because of philosophy and some because the work needed to make them work well together was too much for now

[frigid crystal]

The only thing i saw was the flashlight fix not working but eh how cares its fun

[steady nymph]

Well based on the incompatibility list, AC already implements the fixes that flashlight fix has?

[solid pivot]

ReservedSlots being the biggest incompability basically