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#[Deprecated] Advanced Company
solid pivot
rich basin
They're gonna shoot me
arctic sonnet
"this was the last we've heard of Mi6k... on other news - Lethallib updated again. 5000 mods broke in their wake"
solid pivot
RIP Terry btw.
meager cradle
Ye sad to see him go
hearty frost
||Lethal Things|| Need to add their Dartboard though ._.
solid pivot
I develop all my mods on TempleOS btw 
ember jungle
Our society isn't kind to people with mental/personality complications. I wonder what kind of life Terry Davis and people like him might have had if only we had better things in place for them.
hearty frost
In all honest though, I am just trusting potatoe tbh - potatoe already got all out info 👀
royal swallow
ppl cant join me because of this mod
ember jungle
The State treats neurodivergent people like criminals.
royal swallow
it gives error
arctic sonnet
ppl cant join me because of this mod
Do they have the mod .- .
solid pivot
Our society isn't kind to people with mental/personality complications. I wonder...
Yea, I imagine its even worse in US. Its not good anywhere in the world tho
royal swallow
yes
ember jungle
It's so bad here.
swift merlin
wtf, is this mod shit? They are crazy, this mod is magical and one of the best, they don't know how to appreciate a good mod
royal swallow
idk
arctic sonnet
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
ember jungle
wtf, is this mod shit? They are crazy, this mod is magical and one of the best, ...
Relax. This isn't helpful.
meager cradle
Manual or using a mod manager?
solid pivot
I really envy you that you answer that request. Its either A) clearly a troll or B) not wanting any help 
If you cant even say the error message you clearly dont really want any help tbh
arctic sonnet
I wanna take some of it off of you potatoe .3.
Some people genuinely just dunno things. I don't fault the last person I assisted learning R2modman
solid pivot
Yea, I wish you luck :D
ember jungle
ppl cant join me because of this mod
It sounds like a mod conflict. I've personally had a similar issue. Are you using Mask Those Corpses or Possessed Masks?
arctic sonnet
All I hope for is that me assisting one person learning R2 - has them chain-teaching others to learning R2. Instead of Pay-it-forward, Play-it-forward.
.w .
And maybe one of these days. One - of these days. A bright mind in the universe will come down and solve the evergrowing impossible issue: calculatepolygonpath
(can that be a damn emote/sticker btw?)
hearty frost
And maybe one of these days. One - of these days. A bright mind in the universe ...
That's AI thing right? ._.
arctic sonnet
A bloody impossible to stop one.
hearty frost
and I know some levels have the issue
arctic sonnet
For me: I dare say it isn't even AI
In my attempt to figure out wtf it was - I nuked the literal enemies and it still spammed it.
There was none alive - and my console was eating it >:c
maybe... maybe I am the AI.
rich basin
I've narrowed down who could have been complaining about AC "breaking" the terminal
And now I understand why Potatoe is just playing the "i don't care enough to get yelled at" option
arctic sonnet
I did do a report a day or two ago about terminal conflicts that I've observed o .o ... If I wanted to I probably could deduce things too.... but eh :x
AC would be one of the very last mods i'd sacrifice out of a pack if I had to kill off mods. Yippee obviously is above it, I mean... fite me. -3-
royal swallow
no
hearty frost
And now I understand why Potatoe is just playing the "i don't care enough to get...
Literally nothing we can say to be honest 😛
rich basin
Oh right
arctic sonnet
What'd patch a lot of issues would be a modding API. Only one person has the authority to set that up though o, o
🤷♂️ So until then, we gotta let things just... boil down to what comes up first n who wants to take this or that mantle
meager cradle
Likewise for me, current issue for me rn is however what's making me sacrifice AC for other mods
hearty frost
@arctic sonnet Yeah we wont see that for some time, especially not until full release anyway.
arctic sonnet
My job is to play 'n help iron out kinks in my pack by reporting to devs... which I was able to report a slew of shit... except one thing - that I cannot really report... cause nobody helped point out who I'd honestly report it to
rich basin
I'll play with it until the day it's depreciated
arctic sonnet
🫡
solid pivot
I am sorry, cant download ZStd to add in compression last minute. Github still not working
arctic sonnet
Just give it time 😅
No rush. You've hotfixed and updated this damn thing more times than every other mod in my pack combined in the last month - within the last damn 2 weeks. And there's 69 other mods (* in my pack of mods).
chill~ -3-
Learn from EA. Not too much though- I want an update at least every month and not every year
hearty frost
I am sorry, cant download ZStd to add in compression last minute. Github still n...
You're trying to download what std? o.o
solid pivot
I will just ignore this
solid pivot
ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT
hearty frost
Hmmm strange, this only when trying to download/upload or just using it?
Github working for me :S
solid pivot
Congratulations
hearty frost
solid pivot
Handshake was compressed to 5057 bytes!
from 36045 bytes btw
Just using GZIP now
arctic sonnet
https://tenor.com/view/polikotvsapogax-gif-22607287
solid pivot
I had to add the first unsafe code
hearty frost
I had to add the first unsafe code <:Shruge:1061259109908889610>
When this update hitting us?
lament badger
hey how does the player and ship xp work
I wanna know what can I do to get more player xp
and how does one get ship xp
solid pivot
1.1.0 Beta 9 Hotfix 17 (1.0.149)
- Fixed a rare error which occured when picking up an item while being in equipment slots resulting in desyncs of the inventory.
- Fixed an error with other mods changing the despawn scrap mechanics by adding a transpiler.
- Added new compability options (you can activate animation compability mode manually now and hide equipment, hide cosmetics and deactivate the music clientside)
- Korean player names should now function correctly again. (In fact all UTF8 characters should work)
- Fixed an error which resulted in savegame being corrupted by the bulletproof vest. Yay!
- Renamed the infamous hall of shame to hall of extraordinary gentlemen and made it debug level. So if you feel overly offended by this joke, just deactivate debug level logs.
- Fixed a bug in post processing stack resulting in a null error when beamUpPlayer was called without, well, beaming a player like the method suggests. *shrug*
- Added an encyclopedia with in-game explanation of all added items.
- Changed most application on portable terminal to return to help screen when no output is printed (just exiting store, closing perks etc.)
- Items which are deactivated will now automatically have a highest sale percentage of 0 resulting in them not having discounts any longer shown in other mods.
- Added predefined presets for lobby configuration. Default, Alternative (with 4 starting inventory slots) and Mostly Vanilla.
- You can now configure unlockable objects (ship upgrades & decorations)
- Note: As I had to read from other modders that AC is "f***ing" with the terminal and got reminded by their users that my shitty mod doesnt has nearly as many downloads as the mods of the modders saying so, I decided to NOT change the terminal store. It will still show the wrong prices for ship upgrades and still show deactivated ship upgrades because of it.
- Added GZIP compression to handshake so larger configs can be transferred within steams 512K limit. Compression ratio for configs are about 1:6. So in theory you can now transfer configs up to 3MB.
solar girder
When this update hitting us?
In a few hours probably
God I hate autocorrect and love it at the same time
lament badger
hey how does the player and ship xp work
I have been messing with the mod and I still dont understand and I couldnt find any guides online
hearty frost
Nah autocorrect is against us 😛
solar girder
God I hate autocorrect and love it at the same time
It's forcing me to say I'd love it 😭
I swear that ain't me
solid pivot
Its uploaded already Wait for Thunderstore to give it to you
teal shore
I have been messing with the mod and I still dont understand and I couldnt find ...
you get xp after every quota and the amount coorelates with that quota. Player xp is for personal perks wheras ship xp is for perks that affect the items or non-player aspects
lament badger
you get xp after every quota and the amount coorelates with that quota. Player x...
yeah I have noticed that I have gotten some xp after a quota has been done but I havent recieved any ship xp
solid pivot
Its a hefty update
hearty frost
If autocorrect corrects my lungs for me, I will love it :3
teal shore
Added new compability options (you can activate animation compability mode manually now and hide equipment, hide cosmetics and deactivate the music clientside)
does this include the small mount for head equipment
solid pivot
YEEEEEES
teal shore
:GIGACHAD:
teal shore
err
solid pivot
But remember. Potatoe is always listening 👂
teal shore
I mean even better
hearty frost
Go have naughty ERP things with your weird custom player models
Does this mean you're in support of the boobas now?
solid pivot
No @hearty frost
And just a reminder
The ModelReplacement people thought all of this was less important than their silly model replacements
Opening a total of about 5 issues on GitHub I think and asking in here probably for 40 times, dming me at least 20 times and writing 10-15 yt comments about it
teal shore
yikess
solid pivot
Telling me, my mod wouldnt get popular if I dont add it NAUW!
And all of those changelogs are the reason I said "Nah, later".
And now, ModelReplacement crowd: Ssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
hearty frost
Tbh we all know they secretly got nude mods in the cupboard, plus gameplay is always priority 🙂
teal shore
finally now we can use our poorly boned corrupt textured models in peace
hearty frost
OW I wasn't asking, it was a statement 
solid pivot
Then: Its out of question
At least there are nearly no public advanced company lobbies, so no minor grooming
Thats still VRChat exclusive
teal shore
I agree on gameplay though, just figured I'd ask since I saw it, didn't know it was a big-ask, just silently waiting since you polished everything well so far
solid pivot
It wasnt a big ask. They were just very naggy
hearty frost
I still think it's wild they got Dan (Twitch) into VRChat for an interview >.< Never will be forgotten.
solid pivot
Hahahaha
teal shore
vrchat is certainly a thing that exists
hearty frost
The idea is wonderful, why it's used not so wonderful 😛
solid pivot
Every chat room is a good idea but as soon as minors enter those chats, predators will follow
Your error is fixed now.
jaunty ingot
so that issue was simply just because there were so many configs that it bloated the package size past the limit?
hearty frost
Mrs questioning me why I took SellTracker away and just simply responding, so people can learn maths xD Me being terrible at maths at same time
buoyant trellis
Your error is fixed now.
Thx m8, gonna test it out when able
solid pivot
so that issue was simply just because there were so many configs that it bloated...
Yea, too many moons probably
jaunty ingot
that checks out
solid pivot
and too much scrap etc. but I might discontinue AC sooner than planned :D
split mist
pls don't 
split mist
???
buoyant trellis
Alternate to it?
solid pivot
Lethal ModManager or smth
It aims at replacing ACs lobby stuff and the other stuff is just there for fun
I find it funny to read in the thread tho as people tend to underestimate the work needed for syncing late join etc
split mist
Eh, I'll believe it becoming the popular replacement when I see it
For now AC works and is stable and people can go shush
jaunty ingot
i saw in that thread they were talking about making the whole mod manager obsolete too, kinda feels like their scope is a bit wide
solid pivot
Its like 500% of AC XD
hearty frost
Pretty sure the main goal goal was to be a mod manager, jesus what are they doing now....
solid pivot
And my mod isnt lightweight
Downloading mods on lobby join, lobby manager in-game, closing opening, full config sync and config interface etc. pp
Aiming at replacing AC basically
split mist
Like don't get me wrong, I'd love a good r2modman alternative cuz r2modman is slow, but I'll believe it when I see it
solid pivot
Really looking forward to see how they approach the change of player count in-game
jaunty ingot
downloading mods on join sounds like a security nightmare
hearty frost
Well I wouldn't say that replaces AC as long as they don't mess with lobbies etc, why they trying to mess with lobbies?
solid pivot
They will, increase lobby size, late join etc.
Already stated that AC wont be compatible
split mist
As I said: I'll believe it when I see it
split mist
V50: making the game from the ground up, complete remaster
No functional differences 
solid pivot
Most likely this
V50 will be a very minor update I guess
Not changing much code etc. but well, maybe I'll get a surprise
split mist
Zeekerss seems hesitant to heavily change anything of the vanilla experience
Which is honestly a good thing imo
solid pivot
If vanilla is all he has envisioned.
flat tiger
Its like 500% of AC XD
But but… what about all the perks, the customization
hearty frost
I think we'll get a suprise in V50 😉
flat tiger
Replaced only the lobby part not gameplay
split mist
All I know is, if LethalModManager is incompatible with AC, I won't use it 
flat tiger
I think we'll get a suprise in V50 😉
You make it seem like I’m gonna have a dick up my butt in v50
buoyant trellis
We about to test now, crossing fingers lol
split mist
I love AC far too much
solid pivot
As far as I have seen they also plan to add configuring of all vanilla values etc?
hearty frost
You make it seem like I’m gonna have a dick up my butt in v50
Nah just it wont be small changes, fingers crossed well see the rest of the update that was intended 😛
@solid pivot Yeah fuck that then I'll just stick to R2 lmao.
solid pivot
Ambitious tho. I would love to establish AC as a lobby solution but nearly no other all-clients mod is using the added required mod check
nearly no = no
flat tiger
All I know is, if LethalModManager is incompatible with AC, I won't use it <:pep...
As much as I love AC, my group is tired of changing codes in thunderstore for new mods, so I’d use that just because of it. Id rather use AC for myself, but for my gc i’d wanna use lmm
solid pivot
I might need to document the API tho. But with what time?
split mist
Shrug. I'll believe the scope when I see it
flat tiger
V50 will be a very minor update I guess
I thought he said he’s gonna add more monsters n stuff like that for v50
solid pivot
Downloading mods on lobby join is a HUGGGEE red flag tbh
flat tiger
Downloading mods on lobby join is a HUGGGEE red flag tbh <:potatoe_pepe:96389992...
Why?
hearty frost
Downloading mods on lobby join is a HUGGGEE red flag tbh <:potatoe_pepe:96389992...
I remember GMOD days, shit was kind of dangerous literally xD
flat tiger
You can see the development, bros working
flat tiger
You can see the development, bros working
Oh he stated he’s gonna have malware checks
flat tiger
Malware heaven
Meant to reply to this
buoyant trellis
Seeing it work again brings a tear to my eye, thx for the update PotatoePet
hearty frost
He personally gonna check every dll?
solid pivot
Why?
Because I can then host a lobby with my awesome malware 4000 mod which will break your PC, steal your banking info and private information and drops other viruses on your pc
hearty frost
I'd rather @solid pivot's malware 😛
solid pivot
Just because you joined my lobby and clicked "Yes"
flat tiger
He personally gonna check every dll?
No, like lmm will have malware checks
solid pivot
HAHAHAHAHAH
hearty frost
split mist
Bros working? He literally says right now its a simple mod list according to 0.0.1... and that last patch was a month ago... yet he says 1.0 release was within a month... I'm not saying it won't become something, but at least right now this is not a thing
teal shore
incorporating a fully functional malware checking program within a lethal company mod...dang the scope is even bigger than I thought
jaunty ingot
also having a malware check doesnt mean much, i could write an innocuous bit of code the segfaults your system
rich basin
Pst, Potatoe, Ik you said Alternative is starting with 4 inv slots but I noticed a lot of the perk points are changed as well, is this supposed to be a "harder" preset
split mist
Makes sense, though I just realized, this update's gonna overwrite my Default preset ain't it
Shit
solid pivot
Backup your profiles :0
split mist
I did, but AAAA
hearty frost
I mean if it's a few of them working on it, I could see it's possibility but if it's literally just a dude who got work/school - good luck. 😛
flat tiger
Bros working? He literally says right now its a simple mod list according to 0.0...
He states the mod sync is like 90% done, probably gonna see it this week or 2
solid pivot
incorporating a fully functional malware checking program within a lethal compan...
I can write code Malwarebytes wont flag
Stealing all your nude pictures 👀
teal shore
shoot
split mist
As I said, we'll see
hearty frost
Is that why you find my PC boring? :<
solid pivot
@hearty frost There are only pictures of cats on your PC
teal shore
not my brackkers collection
flat tiger
I think it would be best if you only use modsync lobbies with trusted friends
solid pivot
7.3TB of cat pictures
hearty frost
Thank god you didn't see the one picture 😐
split mist
But if LMM wants to be this all-encompassing solution, making it incompatible with popular solutions is a bad start /shrug
solid pivot
Trusted friends as in IRL friends or as in Online friends? Latter might still hack you :3
flat tiger
Trusted friends as in IRL friends or as in Online friends? Latter might still ha...
Js trusted friends in general ig
solid pivot
Besides this plan doesnt work anyway tbh
You cant chainload BepInEx mid-game And even if you do, you cant chain unload the mods after it completely
And many mods require to run before you enter the main menu anyway
flat tiger
You cant chainload BepInEx mid-game <:Shruge:1061259109908889610> And even if yo...
That was the one thing I was thinking
solid pivot
LLL for example
teal shore
they'll replace bepinex then, easy
solid pivot
TooManyEmotes
flat tiger
they'll replace bepinex then, easy
Bro
solid pivot
Many compability checks run in the "LAN/Online" Screen
split mist
Yeye, let's replace BepInEx, seems easy 
arctic sonnet
Um- I've looked away for like an hour. What's this talk about "V50"?... How do we even know the next version is 50
didn't the last release get named 47?
solid pivot
Not that hard tbh. But to make it A) work with already existing mods and B) being able to fully unload mods?
Well, good luck with the B point :D
Imagine the following situation:
split mist
Um- I've looked away for like an hour. What's this talk about "V50"?... How do w...
Current version is v49. But that's fair, next version could be v56 knowing Zeekerss
flat tiger
Really good points being made
arctic sonnet
49?!...what
split mist
Mhm. Just v48 and v49 had no patch notes so we have no clue what they did
solid pivot
You join a lobby with LethalThings.
LethalThings adds keywords to your terminal and its items to the buyableList and allItemsList etc.
You now leave the lobby and join another lobby without LethalThings
How would any mod know which terminal keywords etc. were added by LethalThings? :D
split mist
47 was the last "release" that as far as we know did anything
arctic sonnet
I swear devs and their reluctant detailing of updates sometimes... (Not including potatoe in that)
Know what god damn game was worst at that in my experience? Warframe. =- =
flat tiger
@indigo moon how would the mod counteract these points if they can
teal shore
imagine I jump from lobby with Infernis to lobby with Ganimedes. both mods have "Pickaxe" item. Ganimedes pickaxe is a shovel-esque item whereas infernis' pickaxe is just scrap. Ganimedes lobby -> infernis lobby could potentially break the pickaxe scrap to be a shovel client side
flat tiger
solid pivot
Not to start with NetworkConfig stuff. If they just remove NetworkConfig Hash checks this will quickly become desync hell
teal shore
big headache
hearty frost
I said goodbye to LethalThings before wiping my PC :<
solid pivot
Like full on freeze game desync hell
hearty frost
I miss Gnarpy
arctic sonnet
I keep lethal things in my pack. I like the plushies 'n traps... if I was forced to keep 2 or 3 things, it'd be teleporter trap and boomba top on that list - next to maxwell
solid pivot
Unity keeps NetworkPrefabs with their networkobject IDs in a list. How about removing them when leaving a lobby? How would they go about that? Its a monumental task. Thats what I say :D
teal shore
flat tiger
@solid pivot if LMM is perfect and basically is js a better lobby mod than yours , are you gonna deprecate AC?
solid pivot
If AC is ambitious, these ideas are basically climbing the mount everest
solid pivot
<@536700582631833607> if LMM is perfect and basically is js a better lobby mod t...
Yes, I will remove AC from ThunderStore :)
flat tiger
If AC is ambitious, these ideas are basically climbing the mount everest <:Shrug...
Touching the moon
split mist
Boomba is a fun little enemy
I just need him to work outside for custom moon shenanigans
arctic sonnet
LMM? God this must be what it feels like to jump into a tv series 2 chapters in...
flat tiger
Yes, I will remove AC from ThunderStore :)
I think it would still be good having it around, I mean TMLC will probably crumble
solid pivot
I mean I have a lot in store for lobby stuff in the near future. But I might as well concentrate on the API stuff and convince a lot of modders to use it :3
So there are 100s of mods using ACs mod check system etc.
teal shore
honestly might be the play, lay down strong roots now
flat tiger
Js modpacks using AC would js crumble
solid pivot
Its a simple one line code :D
flat tiger
Bc some of them rely on the perk system aswell
arctic sonnet
LMM - I'm assuming is "Lethal Mod Manager"?...
split mist
Yea
flat tiger
Or the customizable things which I don’t think LMM will offer
arctic sonnet
What is LMM?... .,.'
flat tiger
I mean we’ll see
arctic sonnet
what- is this a hypothetical scenario? ., .
Who is creating a manager?... we have r2
flat tiger
What is LMM?... .,.'
Possible modsyncer on lobby join to counteract player codes, a mod manager in game that’s supposed to be faster than r2
hearty frost
Boomba is a fun little enemy
There's a mod that turns landmines into roombas basically 😛
split mist
There's a mod that turns landmines into roombas basically 😛
I'm aware 
But I want a separate enemy
teal shore
#1186884307332108339 message @arctic sonnet start here-ish
arctic sonnet
oh god... 🙃
teal shore
fair
arctic sonnet
Who is creating it
hearty frost
#1186595897052774472
flat tiger
Who is creating it
Person who made lethal utilities
hearty frost
^
wide zealot
Kyxino is a super chill mod dev tbh
arctic sonnet
so... they think they can create something r2 does but better... integrated into an already loaded game and have mods function ... loading after initialization?
arctic sonnet
am i the only one that sees an issue of trying to gmod a game that isn't gmod? ., .'
split mist
I agree 100% Masterkev
hearty frost
Kyxino is a super chill mod dev tbh
I don't think it's chill to step on other devs toes 😛
arctic sonnet
gmod functions in a way where the mods don't matter until you attempt to connect - in which it loads its assets and sets memory aside to use said assets.
wide zealot
Well I haven't seen him do that yet
hearty frost
Also a possibility of creating a security issue with users too.
arctic sonnet
This game - functions in which the moons are loaded before you even hit the online button
wide zealot
I just know he was chill when I talked to him
arctic sonnet
the moons are already loaded prior to seeing the main menu . ,.
hearty frost
Well I haven't seen him do that yet
Further diving into LethalModManager is exactly that, it's stepping on toes.
flat tiger
This game - functions in which the **moons are loaded before you even hit the on...
Yeah idk how that’s gonna work, possibly reloading the entire game? Idfk
arctic sonnet
how do you change that to being after main menu without breaking something along the line? . ,.
flat tiger
Reloading all of bepinex
split mist
I mean developing LMM isn't exactly stepping on toes, but straight up saying "Hey X, Y and Z just aren't gonna be supported /shrug" kinda is
flat tiger
I mean developing LMM isn't exactly stepping on toes, but straight up saying "He...
Wym?
Holy fuck sick days are horrible, so tired
solid pivot
What I find most funny is that my mod isnt "lightweight" but theirs is
arctic sonnet
which in turn would require... well... I guess technically not impossible. Make it so when I connect to you, I request a set of packets detailing the mod pack - then it downloads it off of a database (thunderstore) - relaunches bepinex and then forces connection to the server you just attempted, with skipping intro/menues...
flat tiger
What I find most funny is that my mod isnt "lightweight" but theirs is <:potatoe...
Your mods pretty lightweight for me
hearty frost
Instead of it just being a modmanager which it is titled as, it's going to be a lobby solution, anti cheat solution, sync solution etc.
arctic sonnet
I don't see them making loading into someone's server and pinging their pack possible without basically a "relaunch the game" protocol inside the manager ., .
split mist
AdvancedCompany certainly isn't lightweight from a code perspective, but from impact on the game perspective it definitely is
arctic sonnet
or - zeek changes the game o -o
split mist
Most of the stuff AC changes is configurable and you can basically make it a way to be a mostly vanilla experience
hearty frost
Relaunch of the game is literally mandantory for quite a few mods, especially when Bepin needs to be reloaded which the game needs to be closed for.
solid pivot
AdvancedCompany certainly isn't lightweight from a code perspective, but from im...
Lightweight refers to the memory and CPU footprint tho
flat tiger
or - zeek changes the game o -o
Imagine the mod changes the entire game and makes it where it loads once you join a game then de loads the entire thing
split mist
ESPECIALLY with the Mostly Vanilla preset now
split mist
Lightweight refers to the memory and CPU footprint tho <:Shruge:1061259109908889...
Fair enough
hearty frost
Lightweight refers to the memory and CPU footprint tho <:Shruge:1061259109908889...
So miners are lightweight? 😄
solid pivot
No, they are heavyweight
hearty frost
xD
solid pivot
Tbh, they can be lightweight if they use the most efficient algorithm. They could be considered lightweight
arctic sonnet
Imagine the mod changes the entire game and makes it where it loads once you joi...
I wanna believe that's possible... I do.
flat tiger
I feel like LMM either has to have a reload/deload protocol or js has to remake the entire system from the ground up
flat tiger
I wanna believe that's possible... I do.
Js have to see and test once it releases
solid pivot
Imagine the mod changes the entire game and makes it where it loads once you joi...
I stopped believing in miracles when I turned 16.
arctic sonnet
Like-... correct me if I'm wrong Potatoe - the items are listed and set prior to you even seeing the main menu, right? .,.
wide zealot
I mean if LMM is an issue when it releases no one is gonna use it
split mist
^
hearty frost
I honestly just think it would be nice to tackle the mod mananger issue, stability with R2/TS isn't great, TS comes with Overworld too. The codes people seem to struggle with, so it all seems like good idea but if it means removing potential for mod mixing - what's the point of a "Mod Manager" if it's not managing but being a gate for mods (and not even security).
arctic sonnet
So if you pinged into a server to get some modpack, you couldn't just add it in - because the item list needs to be remade for everyone's items to be synced.
split mist
I won't touch it as long as AC is incompatible, that's just what it is
solid pivot
Like-... correct me if I'm wrong Potatoe - the items are listed and set prior to...
No, items are loaded when you join a lobby but you can also LEAVE a lobby and join another lobby
flat tiger
I honestly just think it would be nice to tackle the mod mananger issue, stabili...
How would it remove mod mixing
arctic sonnet
Yeah - what if you loaded into LC with some mods that already add scrap
hearty frost
How would it remove mod mixing
Because if it plans to replace most of the mods we use, we wont be able to use them with it.
arctic sonnet
but you pinged a server that then asked for more mods that mess with item ID's to be added
solid pivot
Their assets might be loaded
flat tiger
I won't touch it as long as AC is incompatible, that's just what it is
It may be compatible if there’s a config to remove all the lobby things and js has modsync/mod manager
solid pivot
Most mods load their assets in Awake
split mist
I can't wait to see people make "LMMCore" after it gets too ambitious and breaks everything and people just want a basic mod manager. Sounds like what happened to LethalExpansion
solid pivot
Just a reminder btw
arctic sonnet
LE sorta died off a cliff though
split mist
LE sorta died off a cliff though
That it did
solid pivot
hearty frost
I mean if they make a fork of it, that could be a thing which could be more supportive of.
solid pivot
Read the entire sentence
wide zealot
Or people are just gonna stick with using r2mm and TMM and it's gonna fall flat on its face
flat tiger
Imagine when you load into a game with LMM all you see is the “ERROR” from Gmod
arctic sonnet
lol
split mist
We shall see ¯_(ツ)_/¯
hearty frost
If they don't release just the ModManager, yeah I would still use R2.
I don't need a lobby solution, I don't need a syncing solution. 😛
arctic sonnet
Look, I never fault somebody for trying to be ambitious. I fault the end goal. This is why I fault all NFTs -w- ... ambitious =! good/practical
flat tiger
I don't need a lobby solution, I don't need a syncing solution. 😛
I need a syncing solution or the entire lethal company gc is gonna fail LOL
flat tiger
Look, I never fault somebody for trying to be ambitious. I fault the end goal. T...
Why do you do “-..”
hearty frost
I need a syncing solution or the entire lethal company gc is gonna fail LOL
It's P2P connection, you can't expect everything.
flat tiger
Genuine question
arctic sonnet
I want to be impressed. Do you know how nerd-giddy I get over seeing the damn Steam video of how their controllers were made?
arctic sonnet
Why do you do “-..”
huh .,.?
flat tiger
If the universe can be made in gmod LMM can be possible 
arctic sonnet
"-w-"?
flat tiger
Ima take a shower afk
arctic sonnet
Server no like emotes, if ye questioned my emote. So I must make do :<
hearty frost
It's all possible, what they want to achieve is possible but personally I wouldn't use now knowing they're trying to be "the solution" whilst providing a "mod manager" Hopefully it's gonna be a fork of it and you can have it as a seperate module, that would be amazing then to keep compatibility open rather having to load everything.
split mist
I will say, it's a shame that if I want the default cosmetics from MoreCompany I have to install it, cuz its otherwise a complete dud in my pack
flat tiger
Wait can someone compile a list of what can go wrong with LMM while in taking a shower?
arctic sonnet
1 thing I would use it over (if possible) - is if it isn't so god damn slow... One thing I will complain about a LOT over r2 is how god damn laggy it feels
solid pivot
Did anyone ask MoreCompany dev if the cosmetics are also MIT licensed?
IF they are, I can add them to AdvancedCompany
split mist
Did anyone ask MoreCompany dev if the cosmetics are also MIT licensed?
I've got his DM, I can ask him
arctic sonnet
would it land anybody in trouble to just snag it - u-'... there's no profits to be made right?
solid pivot
Sure
flat tiger
Wait can someone compile a list of what can go wrong with LMM while in taking a ...
Pwetty please
With a cherry on top
arctic sonnet
R2 is slow as hell when clicking on mods 'n trying to disable, check associated, etc.
teal shore
With a cherry on top
only with LC in my experience
arctic sonnet
I personally wouldn't mind if this ambitious project led to at least a faster "manager" outside of the game.... assuming someone can prove it's as 'safe' as R2
teal shore
My ror2 profiles with 200+ mods don't skip a beat
err didn't mean to reply on that one
hearty frost
I mean yeah there's a delay sometimes when clicking disable/enable but is it really that bad? y'all never had dial up, or had to walk to work or anything obviousily >.<
arctic sonnet
so if I told ye to share yer screen rn - you could click on mods and have em open in a flash?
teal shore
for clicking mods or navigating the settings and such yeah
arctic sonnet
I don't believe it
teal shore
loading the profile no that takes around 15 seconds or so
arctic sonnet
Where the heck can we get in a call rn in this server...
wide zealot
TMM I've heard is faster at it, but that requires Overwolf. R2 has just had less updates since LC came out
hearty frost
I mean custom order thing for me works flawless but there's defo a natural delay when enabling/disabling. I'd imagine it's even slower with HDD's too.
split mist
@solid pivot
solid pivot
Next thing I probably gonna tackle is to refactor my networking code from 1 file with 1700 lines of code to multiple files :3 Makes development easier
hearty frost
and it takes like 4 seconds to just open a mod's tab
What is your PC smoking >.<
solid pivot
All I can offer is that I extract the cosmetics from the DLL and you can remove MoreCompany after that
arctic sonnet
What is your PC smoking >.<
It's r2 I swear >:l
hearty frost
<@536700582631833607>
I can't remember the names but I found several of those cosmetics already in packs that have been reuploaded :S
arctic sonnet
it's installed on a m.2, lethal is on an m.2 - what more can I do to R2 <-<
hearty frost
Especially the eyes, knife, sign necklaces etc
split mist
All I can offer is that I extract the cosmetics from the DLL and you can remove ...
Valid, but will that do that for other mods too? Cuz I'd like to be able to remove other mods and have the cosmetics disappear
hearty frost
It's r2 I swear >:l
Both R2/TS are like it to be honest 😛
solid pivot
Only MoreCompany
split mist
Honestly at that point I can just separate the cosmetics myself and it'd be easier, I'm just lazy
Not to mention then I have to tell all my friends to install and then uninstall it
Meh
solid pivot
So my Roadmap currently is:
- DOOM Cursed Item
- Refactor networking code (especially lobby patches)
- Solidify networking a bit more and make more stuff available via API
- Add API documentation
split mist
API documentation would be dope, I assume that means ways to hook items from other mods into the special slots?
solid pivot
Then I will go around knocking on doors
wide zealot
Not really, if you use r2 and remove a dependency it translates in the mod code
solid pivot
For the start its limited to lobby sync stuff and mod requirement checker, post processing etc.
Custom equippable items will come later
split mist
Valid
solid pivot
Some modders are already using these 👀
wide zealot
So telling someone to add then remove MoreCompany wouldn't be needed so long as you have them import your profile code lol
split mist
Once I get a scrap mod working I'd love to add custom things that interact with AC, not that I'm in any way good at coding
hearty frost
So telling someone to add then remove MoreCompany wouldn't be needed so long as ...
It's what I do to stop people download MoreCompany back, poeple see that "!" and like YOU'RE MOD PACK IS BROKEN!! So yeah I just edit the yml now 😛
burnt sandal
does advanced company save the suits players had on from a previous game session?
hearty frost
does advanced company save the suits players had on from a previous game session...
No just from being fired.
Still gotta suit up when you join lobbies :3
That fresh suit sound, you know
split mist
So telling someone to add then remove MoreCompany wouldn't be needed so long as ...
Yeah but the discussion was getting MoreCompany's cosmetics, which would require you to install it first, then remove it if Potatoe implemented his fix
hearty frost
Like opening a tin of beans @burnt sandal
solid pivot
One thing which will come with the API update: Synchronizing any player data at lobby handshake and beyond
I will do the XP stuff with this and other modders can as well
Or access the data I save on players
Its basically a nice interop gateway
teal shore
can you make advanced company do my taxes too
solid pivot
Player.GetData<AdvancedCompany.XPData>()
I mean this is awesome especially for new modders
flat tiger
solid pivot
If you want to save any data about players either on the server savegame or clients savefile and synchronize it on connect
split mist
AdvancedCompany files my taxes when
hearty frost
Mrs is rebeling against the porta terminal ....
solid pivot
who?
hearty frost
The Mrs, my lover lover 😛
solid pivot
ah, so no link
solid pivot
I mean, it might be clever to not use the portable terminal after reading that disclaimer 👀
hearty frost
I have xD
solid pivot
btw. I might add the radar to the portable terminal soon with a hidden feature tho
Wont tell what it is tho
arctic sonnet
Let us discover . o.
hearty frost
btw. I might add the radar to the portable terminal soon with a hidden feature t...
I think adding functionality for more use will convert terminal lovers :3
arctic sonnet
someone was asking in a different chat here like "is there a mod that adds a portable terminal?"
If ye add enough of the basekit in that terminal - that's enough of a reason for some to get AC ;p
Although honestly, can I just thank you for getting something out that just assists in longevity of a run in the form of perks?... I was a fan of lethal progression and their stuff just halted for god knows how long 'n then that halt allowed someone I know to stumble on your stuff
'n the rest is history. I'm a free advertiser of this heckin' mod -u -
Not that it's an "issue" - but I am wondering if you have an idea of what XP could do if capped? Assuming I didn't just up a few stats (which I have, I've extended a few with some ridiculous costs for late-late investment if it ever goes that far), but do you have some sort of like... idea for it? o- o
solid pivot
Not that it's an "issue" - but I am wondering if you have an idea of what XP cou...
You wont be able to cap them any longer for that much longer
arctic sonnet
o -o? ...
solid pivot
Endless upgrades coming to town
arctic sonnet
oooooooooo
solid pivot
Costs rise and change reduces with each level :>
solid pivot
Curve editor will do that
wintry quail
Endless upgrades coming to town <:potatoe_pepe:963899925786144798>
Too much power inbound.
solid pivot
:)
I dont need "change per level" any longer
I can do "change at level" instead :P
arctic sonnet
Logarithmic ... scale? ; w ;
solid pivot
Yea basically
solid pivot
Visually :D
First thats there and then you can basically unlock some neat terminal functions soon
hearty frost
The Company will fit you with Advanced(tm) upgrades for your standard issued personal terminal.
solid pivot
Including but not limited to:
- Buy everywhere
- Use teleporter from portable terminal
- Use radar on terminal
- Control ship light and monitor on terminal
arctic sonnet
Including but not limited to:
* Buy everywhere
* Use teleporter from portable te...
christ almighty- teleporter?...
solid pivot
There is a completely new set of perks arriving soon basically
Portable Terminal Perks
arctic sonnet
Gotta look at that through some balancing lenses
solid pivot
Teleporter Perk reducing the time between 2 teleports
Radar increasing the time you can watch at the radar before it will lose connection
arctic sonnet
Maybe you can call upon a teleport to the ship (dropping all items still) - once per 20 minutes of ~~game ~~ irl time, and upping the skill cuts the timer down by a logarithmic %?
made for them oh-shit moments
solid pivot
Buy everywhere will come with a steep increase of prices
arctic sonnet
oooo
solid pivot
Levelling it will reduce the prices to be more in line with the on ship prices
arctic sonnet
You think you could create some sort of ship perk to influence discount chances?
river oasis
Could there be a ship perk that makes it so you can keep items after teleporting?
arctic sonnet
mega expensive per level, maxes after 5 levels - each upping the odds of discounts happening by like .5%
arctic sonnet
:D
solid pivot
No "per level" any longer :D
arctic sonnet
will that affect all perks in a sense?
solid pivot
Yes
arctic sonnet
or at least - perks that don't have obvious limits like critical hit
solid pivot
It wont have a limit
It will have a max value it approaches basically
You will never reach it tho
hearty frost
Some nice news from #1186595897052774472 tbh, it will be customisable - all the features wont be forced and by choice.
river oasis
Can you make this possible to disable?
solid pivot
No, its a fundamental change of perks :)
wintry quail
Remember: Endless upgrades <:Shruge:1061259109908889610>
Ship upgrades: Now capable of reducing employees to flat pancakes with 5000% ship landing speed
solid pivot
I will balance it to feel similar to how it is right now
Hey, upgrades will become cheaper :3 As most upgrades will follow a curve like this
river oasis
okay, thank you
arctic sonnet
so, by default - we can upgrade up to 8 with critical strike right? And the cap is "100%" - so after the first 8 - it doesn't upgrade by 10% anymore but goes up by like 1?... then the next is .8, .5, .4... etc?
solid pivot
wintry quail
Secret perk that costs jars of potatoes to unlock?
solid pivot
Increasing your stats slowly, becoming more expensive while per step is increasing to then reduce the per step change
@wintry quail 🤫
I have plans for potatoes.
wintry quail
Glorious potatoes
solid pivot
Other plans. Black holey plans
arctic sonnet
Farming on 71 Gordion
confirmed.
potatoe is adding a farming simulator. Look- I'mma go ahead of the curve now and ask: When is fishing simulator?
I wanna fish rare fish on flooded moons
wintry quail
Other plans. Black holey plans
Brilliant, we're turning the potato into an AI that likes to run lab tests
wintry quail
I wanna fish rare fish on flooded moons
Please no, I'd sink even more time into Lethal Company than I should
xd
solid pivot
arctic sonnet
Requires 50 credit Expert Bait
solid pivot
Regarding farming and fishing
wintry quail
You avoided the Terraria mistake. good
solid pivot
Those 2 features are basically confirmed for my game
arctic sonnet
I wonder how convoluted it'd be to make a "crafting system" in this game... I've said like 50 times in the past that shit metal needs more of a use
solid pivot
I really like the idea of having something grow while you are out on an adventure
arctic sonnet
Imagine you can craft 1 shit metal into 2 shovels
solid pivot
Crafting will be part of my game as well
arctic sonnet
Damn thing is the weight of 2-3 shovels
wintry quail
I really like the idea of having something grow while you are out on an adventur...
Dave the Diver does a decent job of that :p
solid pivot
For stuff like tactical helmet
arctic sonnet
Dave the Diver does a decent job of that :p
Indeed
wintry quail
Hmmmmm
arctic sonnet
until your damn stupid jellyfish multiply faster than rabbits
solid pivot
I mean, there are some changes which go undocumented for quite some while now
wintry quail
Small problems. Free fodder
solid pivot
arctic sonnet
I'll notice it eventually potatoe - dw .w.
faint oxide
Crafting will be part of my game as well
minecraft 2.0 confirmed
wintry quail
Also try our other game: PotatoQuest!
solid pivot
👀
solid pivot
wintry quail
I like reading
solid pivot
What will happen in 2 years and 11 months? 
wintry quail
Lethal Company becomes a boss hunting game
arctic sonnet
It's obviously this cyan color - changed it to a singular blue hue lower. 🤓
wintry quail
When it inevitably escapes confinement
solid pivot
You noticed? 👀
arctic sonnet
I made that up -w-
solid pivot
its true tho
arctic sonnet
😮
wintry quail
Incidentally was "advancing mankind" always lowercase?
I swear it was capitalized before
solid pivot
it was like that forever
wintry quail
Mk
arctic sonnet
barnstein bears
wintry quail
The only other thing I can see so far is that it says Lethal-1, but I need to open my game
Before I guess anything else
arctic sonnet
it's obviously the light on the bottom right
in 2 years 11 months, hal 9000 is unleashed.
Think the boss is bad?
I'm sorry Kev... I'm afraid I can't let you loot that.
wintry quail
My pc is dying trying to load lethal company
indigo moon
@solid pivot @split mist @jaunty ingot @teal shore @arctic sonnet #1186595897052774472 message
Just in order to clear up any misinformation. I'm not stepping on toes, I want to make everything as compatible as possible.
wintry quail
Ah there it goes. It's working again
arctic sonnet
well you just stepped onto my toes scaring me like that- but I shall check >:o
indigo moon
well you just stepped onto my toes scaring me like that- but I shall check >:o
You got a rocket launcher, I think you are fine, it's me who needs to run. Lol
hearty frost
<@536700582631833607> <@149309371246051328> <@105511922903830528> <@263871567186...
Just to clarify I said the stepping on toes statement but you cleared that up 🙂
solid pivot
You still want to add networking code at a lobby level which will fundamentally be incompatible
arctic sonnet
I have read it. I stand by my stance - I'm always down to be impressed. Ambitious it sounds, but I will not tell you it's impossible o- o
arctic sonnet
cause we're smart and know what everything does... cough ... ahem
totally didn't... try to look up the info of two of AC's items... before..
solid pivot
Its impossible for two mods to take control of connection approval in a netcode level :D
Thats why I added the API stuff in the first place
Nobody found this yet? 👀
hearty frost
Why I will always say it's a shame y'all can't just work from the same libraries and build it up 😛
solid pivot
I am disappointed to say the least
wintry quail
Nope
arctic sonnet
I haven't loaded the game in nearly 2 days - I can't find it ; -;
wintry quail
I dunno how to open that
wintry quail
Is typing in "potato" supposed to try and buy a boombox btw
solid pivot
Yes, because potato likes boombox
wintry quail
Fair enough
solid pivot
Boombox makes BOOM!
type in iwdjas and see flippers being bought 👀
its the closest command the terminal found
dkwiej is shovel
arctic sonnet
wintry quail
type in iwdjas and see flippers being bought 👀
Typing in death gives me headset
solid pivot
mkultra is Loud horn
arctic sonnet
Typing in death gives me headset
headset is death
solid pivot
Maybe typing in something else will lead to some secret documents? 👀
indigo moon
Its impossible for two mods to take control of connection approval in a netcode ...
Like I said, things are optional, meaning it doesn't have to, but I can also do some other workarounds. I've looked into HarmonyX's source code for a reason.
arctic sonnet
Do you know how many god damn headsets I've accidentally bought since their existence? ....
wintry quail
"god" gives me medkit lol
arctic sonnet
over 15. >:l
wintry quail
I'm running Lategame as well, so idk what it's normally gonna give
"sigurd" gives shovel
solid pivot
You are not planning to fork HarmonyX? This would basically break BepInEx compability and makes you the sole maintainer of your fork.
wintry quail
"jess" gives headset. Oddly appropriate
indigo moon
You are not planning to fork HarmonyX? This would basically break BepInEx compab...
I'm not planning to do that, I never said such.
solid pivot
BepInEx6 is on the horizon
arctic sonnet
what will that do? o- o
hearty frost
what will that do? o- o
indigo moon
BepInEx6 is on the horizon
Oh, dang, I really need those features right about now.
indigo moon
For what exactly?
arctic sonnet
isn't it 40K?... Look, I'm not too much of a fan of warhammer but I'm told it's 40.
solid pivot
Steam networking
arctic sonnet
Qwerty copyright obviously ;p
indigo moon
Steam networking
Ah, no, it is way under it regardless of however many mods you have. Lol
I have a lot of workarounds.
arctic sonnet
Impress me. Don't break me though
wintry quail
Qwerty copyright obviously ;p
I suppose so
arctic sonnet
i break easily
teal shore
german keyboard
solid pivot
SteamNetworkingUtils.SendBufferSize = 2 * 1024 * 1024; <- I can say: This wont work
teal shore
based
indigo moon
SteamNetworkingUtils.SendBufferSize = 2 * 1024 * 1024; <- I can say: This wont w...
Never tried that.
wintry quail
Getting that image took a bit a timing
solid pivot
Steamworks is not working as documented
indigo moon
Steamworks is barely even documented. LOL
wintry quail
"Jar of Potatoes" gives me rocket boots
solid pivot
"Upper limit of buffered pending bytes to be sent. If this is reached SendMessage will return LimitExceeded. Default is 524288 bytes (512k)"
hearty frost
Ah, no, it is way under it regardless of however many mods you have. Lol
Apparently some have found a way to go past it, don't know how maybe having 40 moons with configs but who knows.
wintry quail
The numbers. What do they mean
arctic sonnet
THE NUMBERS MASON
solid pivot
If you want to sync any data with the in-game connection you will have to take that into consideration. Just the config of AC was big enough with a couple of moons and scrap mods to punch through that 512K limit
indigo moon
Apparently some have found a way to go past it, don't know how maybe having 40 m...
I am a trickster, but it isn't my tricks that takes time, it is compatibility. Lol
arctic sonnet
there ARE a lot of custom moons now aren't there?...
indigo moon
If you want to sync any data with the in-game connection you will have to take t...
Nope, not that.
arctic sonnet
i seen a single mod apparently add 7
not even a pack - just one mod addin' 7 damned moons
solid pivot
Its now gzip compressed. You are good to go up to 3MB of config now 👀
I will add Zstd later
teal shore
i seen a single mod apparently add 7
although it's pure meme theres a pack that adds 24 and counting
arctic sonnet
I feel like size comprehension is either lost on someone, or lost on me right now
solid pivot
Maybe even LZMA
arctic sonnet
512K - as in, 512 KB can be synced at once?
indigo moon
Maybe even LZMA <:Shruge:1061259109908889610>
I do have that in my code rn, actually.
faint oxide
although it's pure meme theres a pack that adds 24 and counting
the defias mega pack ?
teal shore
ye
solid pivot
I mean, LZMA is basically LZMash. I like mashed things
indigo moon
hearty frost
512K - as in, 512 KB can be synced at once?
in a single package, yeah 😛
arctic sonnet
that... sounds stupid easy to hit . ,. ... as a limit
am I mistaking somethin' or wrong . ,.?
indigo moon
It is only apart of it though.
arctic sonnet
What happens if it's over 512?
indigo moon
Let's just say Brotli plays a role as well.
arctic sonnet
just denies it?
hearty frost
What happens if it's over 512?
You fail to connect
wintry quail
I dunno what else is supposed to be different, but the description for perks is missing a "." I'm losing it trying to find these numbers lol
hearty frost
It's just another setback of p2p connections tbh 😛
arctic sonnet
What if you sent it as a set of packets?... If the total was 2000K, you just send 4 500's instead o -o
n somehow stitch all of them together... some...how
does it need to be a singular send?...
solid pivot
You didnt write your own LZMA implementation, did you? Because this would outright be mad. And not in a good way. And if not why not reference it by assembly?
indigo moon
I didn't write my own, I'm crazy, but not that crazy.
arctic sonnet
yet*
indigo moon
Yeah, yet.
hearty frost
does it need to be a **singular** send?...
For LC? I honestly don't know 😛
indigo moon
You didnt write your own LZMA implementation, did you? Because this would outrig...
Other reasons that I do it. (Somewhat boredom.)
arctic sonnet
You're sinking down a rabbit hole, you either don't know it yet - or you dgaf about how deep you are
solid pivot
This one for example seems to use unsafe code and being practically near native performance therefore
https://github.com/weltkante/managed-lzma
indigo moon
LZMA already has a C# implementation? The heck.
arctic sonnet
for those who uh... use github - the heck are the colors for on the bottom btw?...
arctic sonnet
huh
solid pivot
arctic sonnet
. , .
today I learned ye can code something in numerous languages altogether instead of it all needing to follow a single thing
solid pivot
There is P/Invoke in C#
arctic sonnet
how the hell is that even functional- wh... why would you even do different languages . ,.
solid pivot
Because different languages have different advantages
arctic sonnet
so it's better to call upon different languages than to have it all work in one?
dreamy temple
no one has outcast anyone from anything. when multiple mods touch the same thing you can either work together to make it work the best way possible or go into your own lane to avoid these problems, both are valid choices and no one is forcing anyone to pick either
solid pivot
C# is a pretty much allrounder just like all other C languages tbh. Some might even consider Ruby and Rust to be allrounders
Some might even say that about Python
Tbf: Nobody asked me prior to those comments if I can change a thing
arctic sonnet
no one has outcast anyone from anything. when multiple mods touch the same thing...
the morally right choice is to ensure everything works together
solid pivot
They just shat on my mod
arctic sonnet
of course, as I now always say (from the song-): Morals are a poor man's quality
dreamy temple
the morally right choice is to ensure everything works together
I agree.
arctic sonnet
The more morals you got, the poorer you are (or will become). ;p
solid pivot
Thats why I decided to not engage with people shitting on my mod and do the smart move. I might add the store patching later in an elegant way
But couldnt come up with a very elegant way to change the basically near hardcoded ship upgrades text of the store yet.
arctic sonnet
They can't complain about it if you back off of it o, o - smart move. Just hammer out everything 'n when the opening is right - come back to touch it
arctic sonnet
latecompany is a good example of that -u -
solid pivot
The game basically isnt expecting this happening AT ALL
arctic sonnet
always bugging my god damn radar...
solid pivot
Thats why it barely uses any NetworkBehaviour or NetworkObjects It uses RPC messages to ensure all objects are in the same state for all connected players. Player connecting after a change wont get that change as the changes are written to non networked fields.
arctic sonnet
RPC RPC RPC... I always hear that prior to issues.
solid pivot
You can observe this in VANILLA Open a lobby, turn off the light and let someone join. The lights will be on for them
solid pivot
Same with the storage cabinet. Open a lobby, open the cabinet, let someone join. Its still closed for the joined player.
hearty frost
Eventually hopefully y'all just work on building a open source library that your mods can work from to your hearts content without conflicting each other in unintended ways. 😛
arctic sonnet
what if someone tells it to close while they see it closed?
solid pivot
Not with AC tho as I basically sync 80% of the game already
hearty frost
Same with the storage cabinet. Open a lobby, open the cabinet, let someone join....
Same if you move furniture too 😛
solid pivot
Oh, thanks for that hint. Will add a syncer for that too
All Late Company is syncing is the weather
No door states, no locked door states, no animation object triggers, no red locust bees (resulting in them losing their hive and spamming the console with gigabytes of error messages)
hearty frost
No door states, no locked door states, no animation object triggers, no red locu...
That actually explains so much with the hives then when I first tried modded LC and tried out MC/LateCompany 😛
faint oxide
wait don't bees even now if u run fast enough don't come back to the hives
and just roam around till they notice the first player and kill him
solid pivot
Just so you people know it too: Max Sprint Speed makes you outrun mines :3
teal shore
oh yes I'm very familiar with max sprint
solid pivot
Just be brave
teal shore
think I've gotten it a couple times with 4/5 too, don't remember off the top of my head
solid pivot
I think many people dont get the whole nuances to my mod sometimes
"I need beekeepr from LGU" No, you dont. Level stamina and speed. LETS GO!
teal shore
infernis pit says you need extension ladder
hearty frost
Tbh if you got high dmg reduction bees tickle anyway 😄
teal shore
I say counter argument: max speed and jump height
solid pivot
Thats btw how I balanced the basic mod settings you get when installing it
rigid swallow
if I share a code, will my friends get my AC hosting config
indigo moon
Oh and doing late join isnt an easy task btw
Yeah, I'm aware. If you had read the message I linked you to, you would see that I've already acknowledged it. I mentioned that I don't have anywhere near the networking code to handle it yet.
solid pivot
They will get your server presets, yes.
teal shore
codes share configs as well as mods
hearty frost
if I share a code, will my friends get my AC hosting config
I'd recommend naming your server profile too :3
dreamy temple
@indigo moon can i get a link to your thread
rigid swallow
I'd recommend naming your server profile too :3
i did ty
ornate zealot
is there a way to change the volume of the light shoes and bunny ears?
while i do like them, they're honestly so loud it's unbearable
especially for the person wearing them
solid pivot
lower the volume of your game
I will balance them later, you can deactivate the music for now
undone spear
Where would I locate the host settings at? Attempted to find them through the ingame settings but I'm probably at the wrong spot
faint oxide
u wanted someone to do music for the items right ?
solid pivot
For streamer mode, yea
teal shore
Where would I locate the host settings at? Attempted to find them through the in...
The big menu of Items Perks Enemies Moons etc... after you click a save file
solid pivot
Either do music or give me and all players the license to use it in the mod
undone spear
When you start a lobby they open
Hadn't even started one, thanks lmao
faint oxide
i know someone who lr used to make the menu music and he made some stright fire
analog radish
Either do music or give me and all players the license to use it in the mod
Question, is there a way to move the custom AC config save to 1st, or disable the default saves?
solid pivot
Not right now, no.
Its for ease of use of newbs
You can however go into the plugins folder and delete the basic presets there
analog radish
Oof, but it will be harder for modpack managers who make custom config for AC
analog radish
You can however go into the plugins folder and delete the basic presets there <:...
Oh, That's good
thx!
solid pivot
This probably wont help mod pack creators tho
I will come up with smth for that later
So, any feedback regarding 149 otherwise?
Seems to be a solid release?
teal shore
Will probably play with later tonight
solid pivot
I addressed the most horrible bugs and the most requested feedback. Really hoping on some feedback :D
hearty frost
Imma be playing later or in few hours depending on if I sleep haha, letting Mrs get some strim in as she's new to it 😄
teal shore
Although while testing some moons I can say that the hide equipment feature is working fine
solid pivot
You can finally see your MLP avatar with all private parts modelled in beautiful detail?
teal shore
yes
solid pivot
I got a screenshot from your game
hearty frost
Although while testing some moons I can say that the hide equipment feature is w...
boobas enjoyer confirmed ._.
solid pivot
teal shore
only the biggest
faint oxide
lethal company 8 video when ?
river oasis
Does the protective skin perk make healing items (from other mods) less effective?
solid pivot
No
teal shore
saw this while testing a moon
solid pivot
It does exactly what it says. It reduced damage taken
The ending makes the video perfect
teal shore
Think some healing mods incorporate healing as negative damage being dealt, maybe that's what they're thinking
river oasis
Hmm, for me it made the medkits from lgu basically not work. They might have set it to negative damage though.
That's probably it
teal shore
The ending makes the video perfect
it really does
solid pivot
Just put some silly music in it and make it stop when she stops jumping
hearty frost
saw this while testing a moon
taaaaaaaaaaaaaake on meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
faint oxide
@mint elbow the person who made the lr menu music
faint oxide
solid pivot
Like I said, would love for the music to keep the vibe of the original music. So being lo-fi when the item isnt used and turning into synthwave when put on :'D
or chiptune
teal shore
I addressed the most horrible bugs and the most requested feedback. Really hopin...
minor thing, but if you don't want the portable terminal to ever go to a blank screen, then if you type a store item directly then deny you still can get it
mint elbow
That sounds like it would be really fun to work on
solid pivot
I mean shoes standby is basically:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZFQTLYL0Yo
and put on is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc_0wfIuuzw
Bunney ears not worn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1FrSo-4V00
Bunny ears worn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4faL2XzywQ
mint elbow
I have created some chiptune in the past but never went too crazy with it. I can definately do lofi stuff though. How many items are you looking to have custom music?
solid pivot
I mean, driftveil city was basically chosen because the shoes are having the meme particle of the toothless dragon :D
solid pivot
Currently its just those two :P
mint elbow
Also, I know someone who is extremely talented with chiptune. I could possibly reach out to them to create chip variants of any lofi song I create
solid pivot
One themed around being fast and chased by monsters and the other one you being a bunny
I like the change of pace with the touhou ones I linked the most from chill to full on action :D
I mean, touhou has some really great music overall
Maybe someone can even post some clips of the items in use
teal shore
ok brb setting rarities to 500
solid pivot
I mean there is this one :D
I mean, basically everything goes as those are cursed items.
mint elbow
Add me as a friend on discord and we can discuss more privately. I reached out to ko0x to see what he says for the chiptune side of things. I am pretty busy lately but I'm sure we can work something out
solid pivot
Accepted your friend request
teal shore
nvm because I had hide equipment on the cursed items don't render either. sad day
I should've thought about that
faint oxide
Cursed items > booba
teal shore
that they are
faint oxide
Even tho i never find any cursed items it's always my friends having all the fun
undone spear
I'm guessing cosmetics are not included in Advanced Company itself, you'd have to add mods for it?
teal shore
naturally I've only found light shoes
teal shore
I'm guessing cosmetics are not included in Advanced Company itself, you'd have t...
yeah you'll have to still find cosmetic mods
Even morecompany
undone spear
Wonderous, any good recommendations?
teal shore
still need to install morecompany if you want those base ones. don't worry though, AC will recognize MC and disable it except for the cosmetics
Muldjord has a few good oness
if you want an absolute ton go look at the TooManyCosmetics modpack
you will be scrolling a while though, be warned
teal shore
They pick some from lots of different packs so if you like a specific group from there they have all the sources on the modpack info page
undone spear
Is AdvancedCompany Compatable with Physics Items by Ryokune? I tested the missle launcher and it faced the left side of my screen
faint oxide
Wonderous, any good recommendations?
Cute cosmetics by spooky and NikkisCosmeticKingdom are my favorites
hearty frost
bandaidroo-BandaidsMegaCosmetics
ZTK-ZTKCosmetics-2.0.0
Insomniax-InsomniaxCosmetics
ZeraoFarc-ZeraosCosmetics
Nikki-NikkisCosmeticKingdom
Muldjord-MuldjordCosmetics
Are my favs, also the FNAF megapack but physics go brrr for me 😛
undone spear
bandaidroo-BandaidsMegaCosmetics
ZTK-ZTKCosmetics-2.0.0
Insomniax-InsomniaxCosme...
Big Kiss
solid pivot
I wonder if we can get those mod creators to create a big nice collaboration mod for official AC cosmetics 🤔
exotic bluff
there are some lag in using personal computer, perhaps some mods incompatible
When someone press "X" to use the personal computer then everyone in this match will lag ,everyone's screen just freezing for 1 second.
solid pivot
exotic bluff
solid pivot
Get better PCs I guess. Its only playing an animation and spawning a single low poly object.
Not that much happening when opening the terminal honestly
I will add a toggle to the game soon btw
Nice, right?
I just wonder if I should activate it by default
eternal mauve
whats karma for being annoying?
hearty frost
whats karma for being annoying?
Noisemakers 😛 If you do it too much, you get punished.
I love clown horn, never installing.
solid pivot
It would let me change a text file on my webserver and your hosts would pull that text file every minute and allow me to change your game
So I can just decide to spawn a cursed item for everyone
(At least as long as you havent deactivated that option)
hearty frost
there are some lag in using personal computer, perhaps some mods incompatible
Honestly can't see why you'd have fps issues from terminal from your mod list
solid pivot
There are no IP logs if you are scared about that
Its the least privacy invading way possible basically. Also thinking about just hosting it on pastebin tbh
eternal mauve
looking at your modlist, the possible problems here could be FastSwitchPlayerViewInRadar?
A definite problem though is Diversity, you NEED to disable that right now :( sorry. It currently breaks EVERYTHING but it will be fixed within the week
eternal mauve
Get better PCs I guess. Its only playing an animation and spawning a single low ...
does anything else load when you press x?
solid pivot
nah, the font is already loaded
eternal mauve
Im thinking if it generates the store, Diversity might be causing issues because it breaks random effects?
solid pivot
The models are loaded also
eternal mauve
hm
solid pivot
The models are loaded at main menu
Store isnt generated unless you open store application
eternal mauve
@exotic bluff Disable Diversity, but could chat commands be causing issues maybe
if you have chat set to open upon pressing x
or something... just idea throwing
exotic bluff
<@684238377444442340> Disable Diversity, but could chat commands be causing issu...
thanks, i'll disable them
there is no issue when i test this modpack alone, but with friends it comes many problems
eternal mauve
thanks, i'll disable them
Diversity is also bringing an insanely cool enemy in two updates so definitely try it out again within the week
but yeah it breaks weather, randomization, even quicksand, etc
exotic bluff
looking at your modlist, the possible problems here could be FastSwitchPlayerVie...
and also when i switch player in radarscreen it lags too
solid pivot
Thats not AC then tho
exotic bluff
perhaps FastSwitchPlayerViewInRadar have some issue for me
eternal mauve
and also when i switch player in radarscreen it lags too
what does your fps look like normally?
open linden
i havent had any issues with the new AC update
solid pivot
👍
open linden
🩷
exotic bluff
what does your fps look like normally?
Except for during Titan landings, it has been consistently stable.
solid pivot
I hope Jojo will enjoy that version :D I shoved in a big bugfix update just so people wanting to try it out wont have problems
eternal mauve
oh yeah! sorry, hey potatoe the current AC version is pretty stable right? 😊
open linden
i hope so too
solid pivot
oh yeah! sorry, hey potatoe the current AC version is pretty stable right? 😊
I dunno, I hope so
I will play with it soon myself
I feel like 149 is a pretty solid release
eternal mauve
Except for during Titan landings, it has been consistently stable.
OH
I know why!
@exotic bluff get LethalExpansionCore
WAIT NOPE
already got it, aiaiai
Try removing LethalExpansion completely ascent?
exotic bluff
already got it, aiaiai
yeah I install many new moons
exotic bluff
Try removing LethalExpansion completely ascent?
okay i'll try that, but it seems some moons need it
eternal mauve
okay i'll try that, but it seems some moons need it
remove it anyway. You have LethalExpansionCore, which should overwrite it by default. LEC is literally LethalExpansion but without a bunch of extra, extremely extremely buggy stuff.
exotic bluff
remove it anyway. You have LethalExpansionCore, which should overwrite it by def...
okay I'll proceed to remove it
sacrifice some moons for my poor fps
eternal mauve
I dunno, I hope so
thanks potat :)
eternal mauve
sacrifice some moons for my poor fps
You don't need to uninstall the moons, they will work
As I said, LEC replaces it.
lost python
idk if Thunderstore Mod Manager has the option to but in r2modman, you can have the option to only uninstall the dependency and leave the rest that depends on it
It is specifically useful for these type of situations
eternal mauve
idk if Thunderstore Mod Manager has the option to but in r2modman, you can have ...
it should have the option now afaik
lost python
Oh then they're good to go
Just remember that installing LE dependent moons will bring back LE so you have to uninstall it again
exotic bluff
oh that's nice!
thanks you guys im gonna have some test
I truly appreciate it
I'm not a native English speaker, and this is my first time using discord to communicate. My expressions might have been a bit awkward before, but everyone has been really helpful and understanding. Thank you all for your warmth and assistance. oh its hard to type so many words
lost python
Oh welcome welcome!
arctic sonnet
looking at your modlist, the possible problems here could be FastSwitchPlayerVie...
wait- really? ;-;
Diversity is an issue rn? :<
eternal mauve
Diversity is an issue rn? :<
yeah :(
eternal mauve
itll be fixed within the week and also add an INSANELY cool monster
probably my favorite looking monster so far
its absolutely terrifying and i've only watched videos of it
it phases in and out of reality while walking directly towards you
its so terrifying
arctic sonnet
so ... I just
it's borked? ... Even by itself?
what level of bork is it @eternal mauve
eternal mauve
what level of bork is it <@572965455178760202>
it borks the vanilla game
arctic sonnet
hecc
eternal mauve
a lot :P hehe
arctic sonnet
that's avengers level borked
wait..
when did it bork @eternal mauve ?...
last update was nearly a month ago o- o
eternal mauve
when did it bork <@572965455178760202> ?...
not sure actually, asking the creator might be good
eternal mauve
last update was nearly a month ago o- o
yep lol :P theyve been working on getting a BUNCH of stuff out in one update
arctic sonnet
I'm only asking this cause I played with it, with the bracken 'n effects functioning like... <2 days ago . ,.
I thought some patch dropped very recently that borked it
mine seems fine o-o...
It does spam that set of 4 "player.update" thing every load of the save once, but other than that...
the bracken works intended, darkness is noticable (I did nerf it.. god damn is 1 darkness just bs)
what borked :<
eternal mauve
I'm only asking this cause I played with it, with the bracken 'n effects functio...
mhm yeah, but I believe with diversity weather is far more common/less common, it makes sinking in quicksand impossible, it also sometimes causes issues with bracken pathfinding (it just gets stuck)...
arctic sonnet
you know what... I did find it odd with the one time I touched quicksand...
I tapped it cause I saw a darkness spot in the corner to the left of the ladder - and was like "is that quicksand?"
I went in and jutted right up walking backwards. chalked that up to just quick reflexes... it was a bug that prevented it though 😢 ?
eternal mauve
the creator said they accidentally broke the entirety of Unity's "random" function, which means that stuff in the store will be broken, enemy spawns will be weird, pathfinding might be weird, might cause descyncs maybe... etc
arctic sonnet
bracken doesn't seem to have pathfinding issues though in mine - moreso it seems to be really damn aggressive eventually... also doesn't pathfind well in the more_interiors moon but that's just a custom interior
eternal mauve
its pretty borked borked 😭
arctic sonnet
oh my fucking god it's diversity's fault for the weird ass spawns?
I knew something felt fucking weird about them...
I couldn't put my finger on it - but it seemed to multiply certain targets
If there was a thumper - there's 3. If there was a spider, one would always exist - that kinda paranoia I had.
But I didn't have anything but a gut feeling tellin' me these spawns were just weird..