they dont want to see the kevlar vest?
#[Deprecated] Advanced Company
pearl fox
solid pivot
I will add that toggle and make it deactivate all equipment too 
Just to troll them
pearl fox
whats the point in having body armour and not show lol
vagrant python
I think it's hilarious to see a model replacement and see the gear float in them
But that's just me
faint oxide
I will add that toggle and make it deactivate all equipment too <:potatoe_pepe:9...
If u do that it's pretty easy to modify after to just hide the vest
So they probably will just do it themselves
tropic frigate
if a gunshot does more damage than the body armor has health, will it just destroy the armor or will the damage also apply to the player?
tropic frigate
lethalcreature :)
pearl fox
lol
solid pivot
if a gunshot does more damage than the body armor has health, will it just destr...
The last shot wont protect you as of now
Its basically a bug but one I cant easily fix rn
Its not intended to be that way
pearl fox
to be honest. i like few features of your mod. the join even when not in orbit which moves them to spectate, the hud and new death screen page with the coroner mod and the equipments
still havent encountered the cursed items btw
tropic frigate
oh yeah speaking of, what are the cursed items?
pearl fox
they are a secret still
since so rare to get them that there are barely any footage except some
tropic frigate
i suspect what they are, but i do not know what they do
surely a toy tank wouldn't be one of them :clueless:
vagrant python
to be honest. i like few features of your mod. the join even when not in orbit w...
Only a few?
This mod has been hands down the best replacement I've found for many mods, especially the other lobby mods
Saved me so much headache
The other mods for lobby have seem to be a mess
pearl fox
im just saying, mainly what i liked the most
solid pivot
Hint: One of the items has rarity 1 on all base moons and the other only titan, rend and dine :D
And... follow the music!
pearl fox
in a sense. AC is a DLC to the game. no other mods needed really. except bug fix mods
tropic frigate
i suspect you've probably hidden them from the advancedcompany config menu
tropic frigate
oh
stiff galleon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1FrSo-4V00
Oh that's original sound!
Never figure out what bgm it is
solid pivot
Of course :3 Its Touhou
tropic frigate
||is the potatoes the other one?||
dreamy temple
Kinda a bad look to phrase it like this ngl. I know you mean well but
solid pivot
Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom I find it fitting.
solid pivot
Kinda a bad look to phrase it like this ngl. I know you mean well but
What? Just an observation. I had to add my stuff to the other one as well for the multiplier to work
stiff galleon
I NEED THIS
solid pivot
Wont happen 
stiff galleon
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
solid pivot
You already got this
stiff galleon
HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!
solid pivot
dreamy temple
What? Just an observation. I had to add my stuff to the other one as well for th...
It kinda comes off as roasting another devs work publicly when they don't know / didn't ask. might be smth left to yourself
solid pivot
Nah, its an observation xD
stiff galleon
lol
solid pivot
Like "Ah, it applies the value two times, thats why its not working"
dreamy temple
yeah i know
vagrant python
I think you're reading too deep into that
dreamy temple
but when you post it publically like that
im just saying might be worth considering is all
solid pivot
I removed the lol before it even tho it wasnt meant in any bad way
dreamy temple
nah nah i feel you dw
vagrant python
solid pivot
btw
they also infiltrated my YT comments
I will dance like this when I add my troll toggle
vagrant python
Fuck
solid pivot
Really looking forward to the next 3 cursed items later
They will have some banger tracks as well
dreamy temple
@solid pivot when do you fuck w/ selectablelevels and their values for your config stuff btw? been cooking up default LLL support for that kinda thing for devs to enable if they want and wondering the best way to handle it w/ your stuff
stiff galleon
Maybe jojo theme cursed item?
solid pivot
MARTY!!!!
WE HAVE TO GO BACK!
BACK TO THE FUTURE!
I wonder if you will kiss your own mother
stiff galleon
I wonder if you will kiss your own mother
Sweet home alabama
solid pivot
Better dont give Disney that script, they wont like it
Should I add an Delorean into the game? 🤔
Would be a very funny cursed item
stiff galleon
Oh btw Is bettersave function will come out soon?
solid pivot
Cursed items are more important :3
tropic frigate
would it be possible to add a suggestions part to github issues? i don't see anywhere else to put suggestions, and i doubt you'd read them here
stiff galleon
Cause delete the save manually will cause perks and xp still remain until I remove the Advancedcompanysave
solid pivot
They are part of my games lore
Not the specific ones you can find in LC
But they will play a huge role in the story of my mod :3
dreamy temple
like how you have the built in configs to change stuff in them
solid pivot
after game start
I replace all ldflds accessing those values, like I said
Its all transpiler stuff
dreamy temple
oh yeah im not worried about like errors or anything just figuring out who should go first for this kinda thing
prob me ig w/ adv company overwriting the levels after i do my config pass right
solid pivot
to replace all ldflds? I wouldnt recommend 2 mods doing this XD
When you set values AC will know these values
dreamy temple
yeah thats what i mean, we should be gucci then
i just wanna make sure people don't use my config stuff and have their "overrides" be reset to the normal values or anything passively by adv. company but from how you described were all good
solid pivot
As soon as they check the override in AC, AC will try everything in its power to enforce them
:P
Rn there is no way for other mods to play a role in that
There will be a way to apply multipliers to values later
AdvancedCompany.Lib.Variables.SetMultiplier("somevariable", "NameOfMultiplier", 10f);
Stuff like that
dreamy temple
it would be nice if there was a window for me to let players change the selectablelevel values before you start overriding them so like it uses the values after my change as the default and not how the levels are in basegame if that makes sense
solid pivot
I only override them when a player decides to check the override box in my mod :P
(The only exceptions are the input fields without an override checkbox)
dreamy temple
yeee but when do you actually change the values for the first time, since first time we can access them is SoR.Awake right. you mentioned 2 update calls after that happens?
dreamy temple
I mean in order of event terms not user terms 😛
solid pivot
Its in the handshake already
In Unitys Netcode
[HarmonyPatch(typeof(global::Unity.Netcode.ConnectionApprovedMessage), "Deserialize")]
[HarmonyPostfix]
like for example because LLL does 1 pass of setting values from my config, i want it so if someone uses my config to make titan route price go from 700 to 40. if someone doesn't change the route price in your config i want it to default as 40 (my change) and not 700 (before my change) before you start taking over it
if that makes sense
solid pivot
Thats when the config of AC is synced
For clients
Hosts will be basically as soon as you press "Continue"
Settings.OnContinue += (configuration, presetName) =>
{
ServerConfiguration.Instance.CopyFrom(configuration);
As soon as the ServerConfiguration.Instance is populated, all ldflds will then return the changed values
I am still thinking about a way for mods to define they want to get the original value without calling AC stuff :D
Probably a decorative attribute you can create
Its the way Harmony manages priorities as well
dreamy temple
Probably a decorative attribute you can create
wym by this
solid pivot
[BypassACLdfld]
public void Method()
{
}
Would make it so the method wont ever get patched
So you have direct access to the fields
wicked ice
Does anyone know which mod this thing is from? It can't be AC, can it?
dreamy temple
Respectfully if I needed to start using full on Adv. Company attributes i'd just straight up mark your mod as incompatible
solid pivot
stfld wont be replaced tho
Then go ahead and make it incompatible
You just have to define an attribute with that name in your code
Its a basic name match
Then I will have to add a moon loader soon
oof
Will take some time off work
dreamy temple
I'm aware, but if your directly modifying vanilla content so aggressively then you gotta make it more reasonable for passive compatability in that regard my dude
asking everyone to start using adv. company attributes is not a reasonable compatability request
solid pivot
Yea, so I continue replacing other mods ^^
dreamy temple
It's not an attack I'm just letting you know as a dev who isn't you
dreamy temple
Not a great look my dude.
solid pivot
Yea, its way better to replace content of game variables
So have all mods fight over them
Moshpit is the best
And handling all those bug reports that the overrides dont work in lobby config
Because some mod replaced the value
AC wont do anything to the values as long as the user doesnt explicitally state they want it to do
For me its: Users wish > Modders wish
And the ldfld decorators return the expected value when its not overridden
This will also make it so that users can deactivate overrides to ensure compability
Giving users more power to ensure compability
wicked ice
emmm, we're just having a discussion now, not an argument right?
solid pivot
But like I said. If you want to mark it as incompatible thats not a big deal
I do it like I did it with MoreCompany, making all moons basically compatible with my mod as a replacement
vagrant python
emmm, we're just having a discussion now, not an argument right?
If you think this is an argument you must not get online often :omegakek:
solid pivot
Mods who want to access the barebone vanilla values for read would need to add an attribute, thats all
writing isnt affected at all
wicked ice
If you think this is an argument you must not get online often :omegakek:
No, I'm just afraid it's gonna go that way, you know? XD
solid pivot
And to elaborate on that:
If you access
item.weight
AC will replaces this with
SomeMethod(item)
Which then does smth like this
float SomeMethod(Item item)
{
if (UserOverride) return userValue;
return item.Weight;
}
No I'm aware of how it works.
solid pivot
so as long as a user dont want AC to override a value, its basically just a decorated ldfld returning the vanille value
dreamy temple
Thanks 👍
remote hazel
Couldn’t for the life of me figure out how to, how do you change the weight of certain enemies spawning on certain moons, I can find the area where the weights are but I can’t edit the value unless I click the box, but I don’t think that loads them? Genuinely don’t know
solid pivot
You have to click the boxes to override a value, yes
remote hazel
Do I keep the box checked?
solid pivot
Yes
solid pivot
The box basically says "Apply this value"
Only other thing I can offer is to add a mod to the ignore list
and the attribute as granular control. I can also check for an attribute on the assembly to give mods the ability to be ignored by AC entirely.
Would result in a warn log in AC tho as it might be the source of overrides not working so it can easily be discovered in logs
wicked ice
Does anyone know which mod this thing is from? It can't be AC, can it?
So, is this one for AC?
vagrant python
So, is this one for AC?
Yes
solid pivot
:3
Its a cursed item
You will be fast and weight wont slow you down tho
So there is a big upside
But all monsters will follow you
vagrant python
I love the boots
I don't care for the ears
wicked ice
But all monsters will follow you
Well, I like it LOL
solid pivot
@vagrant python There is a nerf incoming for boots
vagrant python
May disable ears because most people are, how does one say, a liability
solid pivot
It will soon also actively spawn enemies
All vent enemies will leave their vents
To make it more spicy :3
vagrant python
<@222110143448350730> There is a nerf incoming for boots <:potatoe_pepe:96389992...
solid pivot
You will still outrun them tho
vagrant python
That's neat
vagrant python
They'll be fine, surely
Real
A buddy of mine today found the shoes, gold bar and he was going back to ship on March but died while killing a dog to quicksand
wicked ice
solid pivot
:'>
vagrant python
Some day we will have a way to counter the evil quicksand
rich basin
Hey Potatoe, may I ask / suggest a feature
vagrant python
Hmm, noted
vagrant python
That's fair
rich basin
Not what I was gonna say
solid pivot
Then go ahead
rich basin
Do you have any plans on adding Quota scaling to your list of many configs
swift merlin
People, is there a teleportation mod that doesn't drop the helmetlamp? 😵💫
rich basin
I used to use Hullbreaker to make teh Quota scaling a little more difficult, because with well made modpacks (Like TMLC) you can easily get like 2k scrap within the first quota run
vagrant python
People, is there a teleportation mod that doesn't drop the helmetlamp? 😵💫
LGU probably
rich basin
and then you never really worry about hitting quota and stuff like that, just surviving
vagrant python
Just need to adjust the tool
rich basin
LGU probably
I used a heavily configured BetterTeleport
solid pivot
[assembly: AssemblyMetadata("AdvancedCompanyIgnore", "true")]
Will make AC ignore your mod entirely
vagrant python
I used a heavily configured BetterTeleport
Someone else was saying it didn't work with modded
I assume user error
lost python
People, is there a teleportation mod that doesn't drop the helmetlamp? 😵💫
LGU's portable teleporters have a config to not make the items you have not fall when you use them to teleport back to the ship
vagrant python
@mighty burrow
rich basin
I stalked a previous conversation about this and Potatoe helped that person with all the itemtype names
mighty burrow
<@285728218906886144>
vagrant python
My issue with that is adequate balancing
vagrant python
https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/958998599860113448.png?size=160&name=doom
I tagged you for a reason
swift merlin
LGU probably
what is LGU? XD
mighty burrow
whatsup then
vagrant python
People, is there a teleportation mod that doesn't drop the helmetlamp? 😵💫
Start here
tropic frigate
Hiding equipment? No
why are you so adamant about that? not adding it is fine, but specifically adding a joke option about it feels maybe a bit unnecessarily rude
vagrant python
LGU's portable teleporters have a config to not make the items you have not fall...
I'm not at my computer but is there a way to not make them break?
solid pivot
Its not a joke option, its an easy way to disable all equippable items
Which is also a requested feature
tropic frigate
oh, to me you implied you'd name it as "hide equipment"
solid pivot
No, it will be named deactivate equipment
lost python
I'm not at my computer but is there a way to not make them break?
3rd one
vagrant python
3rd one
Thank
Price is 9k lol
Is that while solo or do you trust someone enough with 9k
rich basin
Then go ahead
so opinions on my idea?
vagrant python
Not to dog pile, but I concur on adjusting quota with AC would be :chefkiss:
Which reminds me of another issue I need to report
lost python
Is that while solo or do you trust someone enough with 9k
both my solo and my multiplayer profile has it set to 9k, it just means that you're in the endgame and you can have the pleasure of doing the braindead strategy
vagrant python
both my solo and my multiplayer profile has it set to 9k, it just means that you...
That's fair
lost python
the portable teleporter for our case is priced at 500 and will be guaranteed to break when you use it
but yeah config it however you want 👍
vagrant python
That helps me decide on what I should price that at because I don't like just disabling it
solid pivot
Do you have any plans on adding Quota scaling to your list of many configs
I will add a curve editor for that, yes
stiff galleon
@solid pivot
I think perks save file is doing weird things
After I delete the perks save file and save file and start a new games
If client side players don't delete the perks save file
Will cause desync
I will report it to github later
ornate zealot
Does anyone know which mod this thing is from? It can't be AC, can it?
Yes, It’s from advanced company
solid pivot
Sadly I cant find any suitable already available attributes for methods. So for now its all or nothing
I could use HarmonyArgument but well.... its not meant to be used like that
stiff galleon
Flashlight seems fixed but still trying
solid pivot
havent changed anything
stiff galleon
You make more sync things aren't you?
solid pivot
Only lobby
stiff galleon
You make more sync things aren't you?
After I said this it happened again
Including the inventory slots bug
Maybe it's LethalLib side...?
vagrant python
Will cause desync
What is the desync that occurs?
eternal ivy
Only issue flashlights have with AC is turning on when put in a cabinet. And that's a vanilla issue anyway.
solid pivot
oh, thats what people mean with FlashlightFix not being completely replaced?
Can fix that later maybe
But are they actually on or just look like they are on? :D
eternal ivy
Don't use FlashlightFix with AC btw. Seems to break more stuff than fix.
solid pivot
do they drain battery?
eternal ivy
No idea tbh. Never bothered to test.
pulsar tangle
Only issue flashlights have with AC is turning on when put in a cabinet. And tha...
you got a reproducable way of doing it? it seems to be happening randomly, sometimes being fixed by dropping the flashlight, sometimes spamming F
eternal ivy
Nah, sorry.
If I did I would've properly reported it long ago. Just brought it up as it was relevant.
stiff galleon
"Sync" isnt really telling me much
All situation Host : me Client : my friends
Situation 1 : I'm holding flashlight but my friends see me holding nothing
Situation 2 : Sometimes my friends inventory can't be scroll only using the number can choose the inventory slots
And he also got 10 or 12 slots with 0 level carry bags and except the default slots other is invisible
vagrant python
All situation Host : me Client : my friends
Situation 1 : I'm holding flashlight...
Never seen the situation 1
Situation 2. I've seen people get 10 inv slots randomly with rest invisible
These are my brief issues I will write reports for later
Report issues to AC
Missile launcher making dead dogs "alive"
Perks are being shared by players at random intervals or reset - seems most common upon joining fresh lobby
Inventory goes to side slots when at 10 slots without holding alt
Deadline extension for 4 days only applies to first quota
Inventory "breaking" - unable to interact with anything - Random intervals, sometimes caused when dropping items - Could be a GI issue changing scroll speed
eternal ivy
Only consistent issue I have is everyone having same avatar on my (host) end for some reason. And it only happens with a group that has a player with underscore in their name. Considering the game doesn't show underscores or numbers in names, I assumed it might be related. But I didn't test this properly either.
vagrant python
These are my brief issues I will write reports for later
Report issues to AC
Mi...
I play the hell out of LC with AC and these are consistent issues I've been forgetting to report because by the time I'm done debugging mods I'm zzz
No complaints at all
solid pivot
Perks are being shared by players at random intervals or reset - seems most common upon joining fresh lobby <- shouldnt be possible at all with 140
vagrant python
Got it
I haven't tested 140 too much as it was a bit angry this morning though that was a side effect of LL
I need to retest 140 then with monitor labels..
I think.
solid pivot
Monitor Labels will break but thats not an AC error but a missing null check
wont lead to problems in the next version tho
vagrant python
Which means in the next version that releases it should function like before?
solid pivot
Maybe
vagrant python
Worst case, I go jab them
Here's something interesting though, It may be fine now on 140, except when I add OpenBodyCams, it breaks MonitorLabels but only when AC is on 140..?
So who is to blame here?
Rephrase that isn't Gibberish
When AC is on 140
OpenBodyCams & MonitorLabels break with both enabled
I don't know if this is at all helpful
solid pivot
*ignore*
I already stated it will be fixed in next version
No null usernames any longer
vagrant python
Gotcha
solid pivot
Which isnt at all something you should rely on
vagrant python
Just trying to make sure it wasn't you
solid pivot
It was somewhat me but like I said: You shouldnt expect a variable to never be null :P
My change showed that error in their code
I will conform now and ensure names are "" and not null
charred shale
Never seen the situation 1
Situation 2. I've seen people get 10 inv slots rando...
I frequently get this while playing as a client. We have the perk disabled, but it still happens. I can scroll into invisible slots and use them like normal, I just can't see them
vagrant python
Sounds great
Thanks again
vagrant python
I frequently get this while playing as a client. We have the perk disabled, but ...
Seems it should be handled in 140
As mentioned, I'm sure you may not have seen yet as you were probably catching up and caught that
charred shale
ah yes, thank you for letting me know
solid pivot
1.1.0 Beta 9 Hotfix 10 (1.0.141)
- Apparatus values now dont use the base 0.4 multiplier of the game.
- Fixed a bug with the preview characters pose
- Apparatus values should now work correctly with LethalRadiation and FacilityMeltdown
- Scrap multipliers will now be forcefully reset in RoundManager.SpawnScrapInLevel which should prevent ever-increasing multipliers from happening.
- Error resulting in all inventory slots being available for clients is fixed
- Added names to all player objects which will prevent missing null reference checks in mods like MonitorLabels from breaking them
- Added a check for assemblies to exclude them from ldfld patching. Just add [assembly: AssemblyMetadata("AdvancedCompanyIgnore", "True")] to your assembly.
- Fixed deadline not resetting to set value after being fired. (Needs more testing)
vagrant python
So when inventory is set at 10 or 1000%
This occurs
at (wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::SwitchToItemSlot>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB,int,GrabbableObject)
at AdvancedCompany.Patches.InventoryPatches+<>c.<Boot>b__19_15 (AdvancedCompany.Network.Messages.SwitchItem msg) [0x0002b] in G:\Unity\AdvancedCompany\UpgradeCompany\Patches\InventoryPatches.cs:98 ```I can submit to GH if you need me to
stiff galleon
So when inventory is set at 10 or 1000%
This occurs
```[Error :AdvancedCompan...
You removed all level about carry bags?
vagrant python
You removed all level about carry bags?
I had this issue in 138 also
but in 141 still persists and now spams error!
solid pivot
There is no feature request template for a reason
And what if I dont like the idea of model replacement?
vagrant python
Jesus
solid pivot
solid pivot
xD
I mean, someone is obv already working on hiding the equipment items
To me this dedication to get them away feels awkward tbh
eternal ivy
And what if I dont like the idea of model replacement?
Especially when you consider what type of model replacements are most used.
solid pivot
Is this some kind of fetish with the models?
Ah, OK
I guess I know what you mean @eternal ivy
So the fetish thing might be correct?
I mean, they wanted me to make my vest conform to their "huge boobas"
eternal ivy
I haven't seen anything serious, let's just put it that way. Other than that high poly model port maybe.
Even that is problematic though, because it will clash with the whole look and probably have a lot of animations look weird.
solid pivot
So I should add a toggle labelled "Fetish mode"?
stiff galleon
So I should add a toggle labelled "Fetish mode"? <:potatoe_pepe:9638999257861447...
Your parents will disappoint mode
barren rover
Idk abt all this but there’s a mod menu that lets you spawn whatever u want in and do shit like TP all loot to you and force load moons
vagrant python
So it seems in 141, it seems equipment is just not functional, Going to test AC in a isolated profile to be 100%
lavish merlin
how'd you turn off the inventory being set to 3?
barren rover
how'd you turn off the inventory being set to 3?
Perks menu inventory slots default value
lavish merlin
ty
barren rover
300% -> 400%
pulsar tangle
300% -> 400%
weirdly enough 400% makes ma have 5 slots
barren rover
Then set to 300
barren rover
Lmfao 😭
stiff galleon
Never think futa is a normal thing
stiff galleon
And should be EXIST
solid pivot
Next request for AC: One hand mode
stiff galleon
Next request for AC: One hand mode <a:potatoe_rofl:963892985450356736>
NONONONONONONONONO
vagrant python
Potatoe, I tested AC 141 with ONLY AC
Equipment doesn't function
stiff galleon
Don't you dare
vagrant python
Fresh profile - No other mods
No errors in log
stiff galleon
Potatoe, I tested AC 141 with ***ONLY*** AC
Equipment doesn't function
With clean save?
vagrant python
With clean save?
yes..
Dw it's not my first rodeo with troubleshooting
This is about as vanilla as vanilla ice cream
Interestingly, Log recognizes the interactions
lost python
no fucking way
solid pivot
xD
lost python
💀
vagrant python
Let me jump back to it
Test profile
1 moment
Gave myself 1000 credits / Turned off the save progress
Buying 1 of each item on 140
All functional
remote hazel
Next request for AC: One hand mode <a:potatoe_rofl:963892985450356736>
Can we get accessibility support for the one handed
lost python
Can confirm that the AC equipment are non-functional in 1.0.141
solid pivot
1.1.0 Beta 9 Hotfix 11 (1.0.142)
- Added a null check to library GetSpawnedEquipment
- Fixed an error with debug mode
- Fixed an error in transpiler introduced in 141
solid pivot
Can we get accessibility support for the one handed
Sure, its an "accessbility" feature
Hide equipment is also accessbility feature, so you can better look at the boobas
pulsar tangle
I just made it 11
stiff galleon
did anything get broken again?
Help us testing
stiff galleon
I really need a steam account to test any desync problem...
vagrant python
Make sure you're on 142 before you test
lost python
better wait for 1.0.142 for testing ig 👀
vagrant python
Just download it manaully if you're man enough
shell coyote
yeah waiting for it to drop
lavish merlin
is Helmet Lamp still a wip?
stiff galleon
Out for long time ago
steep sail
ngl when I saw the thicc model being used so much I knew it was gonna be a conflict of interest in the modding community granted I only like the skele suits but I agree some people get mad weird with model replacement stuff just cause the culture around that and what VR chat cultivated
solid pivot
Not saying everyone using VRChat is that tbf but nothing is really done about it. I do have a big problem with ERP stuff in any games minors play.
shell coyote
(thunderstore takes like 30 sweet mins for update to drop)
solid pivot
I am that guy who reports you if you do ERP in Limsa in FFXIV
lavish merlin
Out for long time ago
cant seem to buy it
solid pivot
This video btw is very valuable
It shows you how comfy those individuals are in there
They are never contested about their degenerate stuff
And with degenerated I mean p**o stuff
solid pivot
xD
There are even worse examples than the one I showed you from YT
But Mrow needs some love
barren rover
Crazy what people do when they know they can’t be held responsible or associated with any of it
I have a friend who started playing VRC a bunch and went down some degenerate pipeline
Completely different person, public steam library goes crazy 😭
solid pivot
Yea, in virtual worlds everything goes
vagrant python
so far I can say 142 has been Great
solid pivot
In public they would be sooooo small
vagrant python
It doesn't make Savage company shit the bed anymore!
solid pivot
hiding behind their avatars to groom on children...
barren rover
I was on steam once and saw a VR game where you’re invisible… very very strange
solid pivot
And I was in VRChat and calling this stuff out btw
often leads to you being not invited anywhere
it is A) well known among all users
and B) accepted
barren rover
Figures
solid pivot
"Age is just a number" is something you hear often there
Age isnt just a number btw
Age is a measurement of lifetime which correlates with ones mental development.
And there are very good reasons that we protect certain ages from having access to certain media.
barren rover
Beyond correlation, causes mental development
solid pivot
Can a 12 year old play a game which is 18+ without taking any developmental damage from it? Sure. Does this apply to all 12 year olds? No :D
barren rover
I don’t think you can convince the depraved of that though, they live in their own reality where this is all justified lol
solid pivot
I mean there are very f'ed up games like Hatred, Manhunt etc.
I can see games like this influencing the development of a child in a negative way
barren rover
I don’t think you can convince the depraved of that though, they live in their o...
A virtual reality 🤣
ripe cedar
do i need something for the helmet lamp?
barren rover
Every kid has a quest
ripe cedar
i just updated lol i guess thunderstore just took its time
hard socket
that github repo battle of the bulge
solid pivot
Happens :D I shouldnt have uploaded a broken version in the first place
barren rover
How does R2 handle custom files in mod packs? It must be uploading them and then generating the code?
shell coyote
I mean there are very f'ed up games like Hatred, Manhunt etc.
I love hatred
barren rover
Discord needs like ID age verification
solid pivot
I mean the most known video is probably the Brandon FM video
barren rover
Even Roblox has it 😭
barren rover
The model 😭
solid pivot
And yea, we should fix the age problem in the internet
ripe cedar
I guess modded moons arent supported anymore with the config before hosting?
solid pivot
There are nearly no sites with age verification
It was never supported before you host once
Go into a game and leave
hard socket
most age verification is extremely surface level / easy to defeat also
vagrant python
There are nearly no sites with age verification
A lot of issues with age verification is how that information is stored
solid pivot
Yea, the privacy part is tricky
vagrant python
It's a good on paper concept but people are out here getting their companies taken over because they got the, CHECK OUT MY GAME SCAM!!!
lavish merlin
seems to say this whenever i try to but Helmet Lamp
buying lamp doesn't work and neither does typing the whole thing
solid pivot
try helmetlamp
lavish merlin
oh that works
pulsar tangle
oh that works
just press X to open up the portable terminal and buy from there, much more intuitive
solid pivot
vagrant python
:chefkiss:
vagrant python
I can't do much more extensive testing because I'm solo but I'm very happy with 142 thus far
Good work
vagrant python
vagrant python
Its invisible
Version?
pulsar tangle
rejoin lobby maybe
sinful osprey
Especially when you consider what type of model replacements are most used.
As much as there are joke "big boob" models, most of what I see for model replacements being used is vtubers, weebs, or furries using their OC characters in game.
eternal ivy
Yeah, meant all of those.
stiff galleon
I can't stand anymore
vagrant python
I can't stand anymore
fix your legs
pearl fox
doesn't the Thicc mod kinda kills you due to the weight of jiggle physics. basically slides people after stopping
tropic frigate
I decide to install virtualbox
you can just #1184708473800364083
stiff galleon
No
I'm gonna use online mode
not LAN
I know how to use lan
But I'm gonna make sure everything is same
solid pivot
You need 2 steam accs tho
solid pivot
lol
solid pivot
Then you can run it on the same machine tho?
stiff galleon
Yes with VM
solid pivot
also without
stiff galleon
without?
solid pivot
I mean Steam emulators have legitimate usecases
stiff galleon
You mean spaceship right?
solid pivot
You shouldnt use them to bypass DRM
arctic sonnet
stupid drm..
solid pivot
I mean Steams standard DRM is very weak
arctic sonnet
DRMs in games are fucking awful
solid pivot
And it basically only in their steam.dll xD
Really isnt DRM as much as just the steam integration
arctic sonnet
the people they're intended to try to stop - it doesn't. And the people it isn't intended for, it fucks over. And no, I'm not talkin' bout steam's "drm"
I'm talking bout like the damn ... is it sim city?
there was a city building game, a damn lord of the rings game i think, etc
solid pivot
Same with AntiCheat tbh But it has at least some use as it reduces the script kiddies
arctic sonnet
all these stupid ass games with DRMs that did nothing but fuck with the players who paid for it, and did nothing to the pirate people -w-
solid pivot
Anyone remember SecuROM or Starforce?
solid pivot
its better that way
solid pivot
arctic sonnet
what games were that on
stiff galleon
Well I want to spend my time with your mod not the steam DRM lol
solid pivot
Oh, do you remember Spore?
They had a DRM where legitimate people had to pirate the game to play it
arctic sonnet
spore was good :< ... from what memories I had of it
solid pivot
If you played it at release you most likely played a pirated version
But yea, I am old, we had that fight with big corpos and won. When do you fight Denuvo?
Starforce and SecuROM were killed :3
arctic sonnet
I may or may not have pirated it - but I DID own the physical copy and disk
so I'm allowed to - if I did
<-<
solid pivot
My generation did successfuly beat a DRM
stiff galleon
Denuvo? you mean FPS CAP?
arctic sonnet
denuvo... denuvo...
solid pivot
Its mostly in Ubisoft games because they also add a VM XD
arctic sonnet
that rings a bell
solid pivot
FPS Hit is mostly present in Ubisoft games
Denuvo wasnt called a "new StarForce" by many for a joke
StarForce btw was basically a rootkit
solid pivot
To protect the precious intellectual property of some multi billion firms
stiff galleon
Will test 142 tomorrow
solid pivot
Where is the text? I only see pictures
oh btw, I will finally add the hide equipment option
I put it behind Age ID tho
wild silo
potatoe the secret item music is dmca free, correct? For YouTube and stuff
wild silo
hmm :/
solid pivot
Worst case is that you have to use youtubes audio removal system
I mean, Driftveil City is from the big N (Pokemon)
But they usually dont Content ID videos containing their music if its not just a reupload of the OST
wild silo
well, it's not going on my channel so I guess I just remove the items to be safe.
solid pivot
btw, by any chance using the gambling mod?
That song is from Deadly Premonition and copyrighted
hearty frost
^
hearty frost
Everyone should be disabling the song if they're streaming/vids
wild silo
thx for the heads up. no gamba tho 😄
solid pivot
One of the best video games ever made
ember jungle
Everyone should be disabling the song if they're streaming/vids
imo you should also be disabling it if you gamble extensively at all
hearty frost
👀
ember jungle
i've never gotten any modded moons to work tbh
solid pivot
hearty frost
imo you should also be disabling it if you gamble extensively at all
I have that and the slots machine, played with a addicted gambler and they drained all our creditsxD
ember jungle
anything that adds a new map or tileset to my game causes my ship to get stuck between destinations and it doesn't matter what mod i try to use for it
ember jungle
I have that and the slots machine, played with a addicted gambler and they drain...
you have what and the slots machine?
hearty frost
you have what and the slots machine?
Gamble & Slots Machine
Slot machine is ship furniture 😛
ember jungle
vanilla?
hearty frost
No haha it's a mod
ember jungle
oh sick what mod
solid pivot
you dont grammar correct a quote
hearty frost
Bro getting the fame to thier head from the looore
solid pivot
Not even sure who CatsArmy is
ember jungle
anything that adds a new map or tileset to my game causes my ship to get stuck b...
off the cuff does anyone know what causes this
it's as if i'm locked out from this kind of content
hearty frost
Have you got multiple NetworkAPI's installed?
ember jungle
🤷
cold harness
Is it possible to play with this mod on official servers, or does the mod block this possibility?
ember jungle
nobody lists what they change in their mod anymore so i have no idea
cold harness
okay thx
hearty frost
I will do some testing with Interiors soon, scoopy finally released sewers
ember jungle
like honestly with the amount of desync me and my friends have it's almost certain there's more than one thing trying to api a network whatever that means but i wouldn't bet money on which one i think it is because i have 60 something mods and not one of them is called "network api"
hearty frost
Nat talking about someone else probs 😛
solid pivot
ok
hearty frost
few other mods don't do changelogs or rarely update it
solid pivot
I thought I was included in "nobody"
hearty frost
kind of annoying like 4-5 versions not noted 😛
ember jungle
in your case tater i still don't know where you keep your comprehensive list of things AdvancedCompany adds
hearty frost
Naming no names ._.
ember jungle
i have actively looked and not found it
solid pivot
If I have missed anything, tell me. I can add to that list
I am also easily the mod with the most frequent bugfix updates
ember jungle
i think it might help end users if you list all the mods that are made redundant with the installation of AdvancedCompany
it could be a separate document somewhere else
solid pivot
Its listed here
If you want to add a mod to it, open a compability issue
Or tell me here
ember jungle
cool i actually didn't notice this
i'll pass this along to anyone else having similar problems
LateCompany is redundant?
hearty frost
of course
hearty frost
AC allows joining after game starts and also if you want when landed
solid pivot
It barely does anything anyway
ember jungle
Sorry I'm conflating it with LaterNights
solid pivot
xD
ember jungle
While I have you here I actually have a question about how the day length slider works. If I set it to be longer than normal, does that make the minutes in the day longer or does it make the ship stay past midnight?
solid pivot
minutes longer
ember jungle
Cool, thanks
sinful dune
minutes longer
Do you have a Patreon
Seriously I don’t think there’s anyone who spends more time on modding lethal company
sinful osprey
https://github.com/FluffyFishGames/AdvancedCompany/wiki/Compability
LethalEmotesAPI based mods (badasscompany, glizzy emotes, broiilers emotes, etc) should all be fully compatible
vagrant python
Ok. So, yes, my name is Player #0 for some reason when typing
solid pivot
only for you or for everyone?
vagrant python
I only have myself rn
Monitor also shows Player #0
1 moment
Where is the post to launch 2 instances?
sinful dune
I have ko fi
Sometime in the future I’ll tip you on there but if you haven’t already considered it and decided against it I think many would donate to a Patreon I haven’t seen another modder in this discord casually remake entire other mods as “compatibility” fixes lmao
vagrant python
nvm 1 sec
hardy bronze
i have a bug where the clients see deadline as the challenge moon (it's 7 days and 3 hours) and i see myself as a player #0, is this AC issue, right?
vagrant python
nvm
I can't test it solo
Was looking into running it solo in offline but that wouldn't show up correctly
hearty frost
only for you or for everyone?
solid pivot
But this is online, yes?
vagrant python
ye
solid pivot
In LAN its totally normal
hearty frost
Online it's like it LAN it's not.
vagrant python
I was not in lan
hearty frost
It's fine in LAn
Double check now cause was fine yesterday in LAN
Interesting, in LAN it shows it aswell when I join not just monitors/chat.
That was Local only, does the same when allowing remote connections too.
Yeah so when you run Online, actually shows your name when joining but will still referr to playerID instead
Also tried AC standalone, still present.
hardy bronze
i have a bug where the clients see deadline as the challenge moon (it's 7 days a...
this is a normal game
its not a challenge moon
as for the host the deadline doesnt change
and as the quota as well
after we sold everything
hearty frost
0 error :/
solid pivot
or the text "No steam ID found."`?
hearty frost
It's finding steam ID for me
solid pivot
Is the text "No steam ID found." in the log file?
If it isnt, what you describe is basically impossible
patent wolf
Does anyone else experience that you cant see steam pfps and everyone is just called player #(number)
vagrant python
Relaunching mine rn
hearty frost
[Info : Unity Log] subcribing to steam callbacks
Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 1966720
SteamInternal_SetMinidumpSteamID: Caching Steam ID: 76561197995739125 [API loaded no]
[Message:AdvancedCompany] Initialize NetworkManager...
[Info :GeneralImprovements] Adding ToggleableFancyLamp behavior to FancyLamp prefab.
[Warning: Unity Log] Parent of RectTransform is being set with parent property. Consider using the SetParent method instead, with the worldPositionStays argument set to false. This will retain local orientation and scale rather than world orientation and scale, which can prevent common UI scaling issues.
[Warning: Unity Log] Parent of RectTransform is being set with parent property. Consider using the SetParent method instead, with the worldPositionStays argument set to false. This will retain local orientation and scale rather than world orientation and scale, which can prevent common UI scaling issues.
[Info : Unity Log] Returning week num: 7
[Info : Unity Log] week num: 7
[Info : Unity Log] host button pressed
[Info : Unity Log] Returning week num: 7
[Message:AdvancedCompany] Applying cosmetics for 0
[Message:AdvancedCompany]
[Info : Unity Log] Displaying menu message
[Info : Unity Log] Connection approval callback! Game version of client request:
[Info : Unity Log] Joining client id: 0; Local/host client id: 0
[Info : Unity Log] Stopped connection approval callback, as the client in question was the host!
[Warning: Unity Log] [Netcode] You cannot decline the host connection. The connection was automatically approved.
[Message:AdvancedCompany] Server started!
Even in log it's pulling SteamID & Name fine
According to Unity itself anyway
nothing from AC for me
AC just seems me as the PlayerID
I didn't even have debug turned on fml
[Message:AdvancedCompany] ldfld bool GameNetworkManager::disableSteam
[Message:AdvancedCompany] callvirt void QuickMenuManager::AddUserToPlayerList(ulong steamId, string playerName, int playerObjectId)
[Info :AdvancedCompany] Replacing SteamMatchmaking.CreateLobbyAsync(4) with SteamMatchmaking.CreateLobbyAsync(LobbySizePatches.GetLobbySize())
[Message:AdvancedCompany] Patched GameNetworkManager->StartHost!
[Message:AdvancedCompany] Patching SteamLobbyManager->LoadServerList...
[Info :AdvancedCompany] Adding .WithKeyValue("advcmpny", Lib.Mod.GetHash()) to lobby search.
[Info :AdvancedCompany] Adding .WithKeyValue("advcmpny", Lib.Mod.GetHash()) to lobby search.
[Info :AdvancedCompany] Adding .WithKeyValue("advcmpny", Lib.Mod.GetHash()) to lobby search.
[Message:AdvancedCompany] Patched SteamLobbyManager->LoadServerList...
[Message:AdvancedCompany] callvirt void QuickMenuManager::AddUserToPlayerList(ulong steamId, string playerName, int playerObjectId)
[Info : Unity Log] subcribing to steam callbacks
Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 1966720
SteamInternal_SetMinidumpSteamID: Caching Steam ID: 76561197995739125 [API loaded no]
The only Steam stuff I see
brazen quail
I had this issue earlier, I could see pfps fine though, and it didn't seem to affect anything other than the name itself. In chat it gave my Steam name "has joined", but every message after that was Player #0
patent wolf
Also it works fine for the host
hearty frost
Yeah even with GeneralImprovements etc too I am seeing it in debugger
@solid pivot xD
hearty frost
Also it works fine for the host
Player #0 is Host.
hearty frost
does AC even touch monitors....
Why it's so funny xD
vagrant python
I've been up too long so I was scratching my head for a second there
CS is "deprecated" afaik rn
GI is the way to go
Not officially by the dev, but uh
I was reading some issue it was having and it's better to switch to GI
hearty frost
Yeah they just not updated, they said they'd update like 2 weeks ago but still nothing 😛
vagrant python
now I just need GI or TouchScreen to fix compatibility with bettermonitors - submitted a bug report to both
hearty frost
yeah Corporate messes cams up too for emotes
vagrant python
Didn't think I'd like the touch screen mod but it is mega noob friendly which makes my life easier
hearty frost
Also there's another cool mod that lets you move it around too, not just focus on players :3
vagrant python
The uh
Freelookcamera or w/e
Is it "op"? or do you think it fits well in terms of balance?
hearty frost
FreeLookMonitor yeah
vagrant python
My brain is deep fried rn so forgive me
hearty frost
I mean you can look at whole dungeons without the player even being in that spot so a little 😛
vagrant python
Trying to fix sleep schedule, been up all night finagling with LC
Hmm
I had a feeling that was the case
I do like the mod that buffs the radar boosters
hearty frost
They still have to be in the dungeon though to see the dungeon space
vagrant python
I guess as long as it works as it should be fine
solid pivot
Its a rather small bug
hearty frost
Wasnt looking tbh xD
This whole time I thought you were looking haha xD My bad 😛
Yeah it's not end of the world, least it's tagging the right player 😉
hearty frost
solid pivot
1.1.0 Beta 9 Hotfix 12 (1.0.143)
- Fixed a bug which resulted in the defaulting of usernames
hearty frost
Thank you ❤️
solid pivot
it should(TM) work
hearty frost
Bro about to patch my steamID to give me goofy name :<
hearty frost
Nah there's only one 👀
solid pivot
Looks correct to me
I might add anonymized player names later tho
because I like that idea tbh
Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta etc.
solar girder
Nah I made my most cheapest moon cost 15670 and it gives 108970 quota if you collect all 127 scraps
And the next moon is 1234567
hearty frost
Anonymised players could be cool, like a skill ceiling thing ;D
analog radish
sure
Hello Potatoe, I'm reviewing the way to change the logo with your Flavour that you gave me a while ago.
Question, how can I access this file?
solid pivot
Or La casa de papel names :D
Why would you want to access that file? Its just an assetbundle xD
solar girder
Then you can select basically from a list of names
I love making the weather give no value lol and gaslight people into it cause I want to grab a one shot weapon which probably cost my whole crew Quota lol
solid pivot
Its an assetbundle with png texture in it
analog radish
Why would you want to access that file? Its just an assetbundle xD
cuz Idk how to start
hearty frost
I love making the weather give no value lol and gaslight people into it cause I ...
LaserGun??? xD
analog radish
Simple, I'm horrible at C#, I already tried once and I couldn't even take the first step without making my computer turn into garbage.
solar girder
LaserGun??? xD
Nah the inf shotgun 1 tap weapon
solid pivot
- Download Unity 2022.3.9
- Create project
- Add texture file
- Set texture import values
- Set asset bundle to some name
- Add build script for assetbundles (google)
- Build AssetBundle
- Load it in mod
solar girder
Costing over 80Billion
hearty frost
Nah the inf shotgun 1 tap weapon
Ah xD haha
analog radish
- Download Unity 2022.3.9
- Create project
- Add texture file
- Set texture impo...
Thx, I'll take a look
solid pivot
solar girder
Ah xD haha
And I added SellBodies so no one can get nutcrackers weapons
Only their bodies
hearty frost
And I added SellBodies so no one can get nutcrackers weapons
Savage ._.
barren rover
Nah I made my most cheapest moon cost 15670 and it gives 108970 quota if you col...
😭
hearty frost
Ignore me and yeah wasn't saying AC haha xD It's just how the model looks! threw me off xD
analog radish
welp, 2nd try
solid pivot
its the one the game uses
analog radish
thx
solid pivot
barren rover
<@536700582631833607> xD
AC touches the monitors or something 🤣🤣
hearty frost
AC touches the monitors or something 🤣🤣
Bro it made me laugh xD
"AC broke my monitors"
"I am guessing AC caused it!"
"I got told to avoid AC"
solar girder
The only way they can tell what weather it is if they use the terminal
barren rover
I heard ac has a lot of incompatibility, so I’m not using it
solar girder
BUT IM ALWAYS USING IT
hearty frost
only AC thing that's broke for me is my DC/AC adapter for my monitor
barren rover
CAUSE I MADE EVERYTHING NEARLY ECLIPSES
For my eclipses I make scrap way more valuable and reduce scrap amount by half
solar girder
It works for me
I'm running on a whole SEPARATED COMPUTER HAHAHA
hearty frost
Next complaint I am waiting for is "Ac has too many updates" KEK
Anything for the sheep to moan about
solar girder
For my eclipses I make scrap way more valuable and reduce scrap amount by half
For my eclipses I made the map really small and spawn-rate very high
solid pivot
thats me
barren rover
“AC has too many updates, heard it breaks a lot of things” -some 180IQ genius
solid pivot
AC is too big
solar girder
I'll make the hardest playable modpack ever LMAO
hearty frost
"AC is too complicated" -LethalQuantities user
barren rover
Tf is lethal quantities
hearty frost
Config generated for indexing EVERYTHING into seperate files for enemies/moons/interiors xD
barren rover
I don’t get it still wdym
hearty frost
Like a eyesore version for AC's config for scrap/moons/enemies
no UI, all cfg files
barren rover
Tbh I like cfg files more
hearty frost
Yeah the cfg files are fecking huge from LQ
solid pivot
aa 700kb json file would be like a 2MB cfg file
hearty frost
especially for Enemies
vagrant python
Doing it all in game live is too good
hearty frost
they includ EVERY var
solid pivot
and 700kb is just a normal size for AC config files
barren rover
You can still edit json though D:
Oh no not .cfg, I thought you meant specifically just having to open the file and edit the text
vagrant python
I just wish I could add remote to store
barren rover
.Json is vastly superior
hearty frost
Oh no not .cfg, I thought you meant specifically just having to open the file an...
Yeah you can just never open LQ cfg's in R2/TS it will freeze it for like 30 seconds xD
They're that big
barren rover
Tbh I wouldn’t open anything in R2
solid pivot
NotePad++ is the best :3
hearty frost
plus you can add compat for extensions to NP++ 😛
barren rover
Tf is NP++
hearty frost
NotePad++ xD
hearty frost
hahaha
steady nymph
https://github.com/FluffyFishGames/AdvancedCompany/wiki/Compability
On this topic, isn't MoreItems also redundant?
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Drakorle/MoreItems/
barren rover
Is all of AC written in NP++ @solid pivot
solid pivot
it is
hearty frost
On this topic, isn't MoreItems also redundant?
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-...
Yeah and also if you're using GeneralImprovements
barren rover
Port it over?
barren rover
That would be cool asf
I don’t know anything abt unity but I think you compile the product in unity and need some text editor to actually make changes
hearty frost
I know there's extensions you can add to it, so would be cool if you could turn it into a semi compiler haha
solid pivot
Nobody playing with AC on Twitch rn :<
hearty frost
I will change that soon when your update pushes to me, I wanna check out Sewer update to scoopy
hearty frost
Ah yeah thought so, would've been cool if you were somehow using notepad to compile haha xD
barren rover
I use VSCode
solid pivot
My codebases are too big
VSCode is fine for small projects
But when you have a big project there is the requirement for a enterprise/professional level IDE :P
9 likes left for page 1 top rated btw
hearty frost
These nerds holding AC back, they need to give in and join us. 👀
Wonder if they know you can log in through Discord if they wanna thumbsup 😛
solid pivot
Maybe they'll finally make the switch when you can reconnect after dc and stand where you left?
Nah, people dont care for the technical marvels
hearty frost
Potatoe - "Don't forget to smash that like button"
@solid pivot Fixed, thank you ❤️
barren rover
What does AC lack that latecompany has 🤯
hearty frost
What does AC lack that latecompany has 🤯
latecompany does literally nothing
barren rover
I know 😭
solid pivot
You will see flying items and stuff
just chilling in the air
you cant pick em up tho
barren rover
Top 5 on store 😭
solid pivot
Because its in the inventory of someone xD
Placebo
LateCompany is basically just placebo
hearty frost
It's funny too people saying Physics_Item making scrap spawn in the air. They're using Late_Company and don't even know
analog radish
welp, on my way for the project
analog radish
Oh, good luck!
solid pivot
First time I really can test my new controller
hearty frost
I haven't played AC is so long xD Think last one I played was before BlackFlag xD
analog radish
I miss AC4
solid pivot
Finally have this bad boy
hearty frost
The Pro Elite 😮
solid pivot
It feels very good :0
hearty frost
It's actually a noice controller from everything I heard.
solid pivot
The clicks are satisfying :D
barren rover
I have one, I love how heavy they are
solar girder
What does AC lack that latecompany has 🤯
You mean be a ghost when u joined missions yeah that works really well but still small bugs happens if u have a lot of mods though it's really useful setting Advanced Company have
Works most of the time for me
solid pivot
You will later be able to join as a player either when you have disconnected or if the lobby creator allows so
analog radish
Yay! <a:potatoe_cheer:951918126319153242>
If in a process I need help, will you be able to help me?
fiery relicBOT
Hello, @analog radish, we have a dedicated support channel and forum here: #help-and-troubleshooting #1185732310700654732
Anyone responding is a volunteer so be patient.
solid pivot
But desyncs might occur
analog radish
Oof
solid pivot
Not rn but later, yea
solar girder
You will later be able to join as a player either when you have disconnected or ...
As a 3rd setting?
analog radish
Not rn but later, yea
thx
solid pivot
Yes Softy
solar girder
Yay
solid pivot
DC and Reconnect will always work
hearty frost
Yeah I say don't allow Planet joining, there's always gonna be some desync and there's only so much that can be done to clean some/most of it up 😛
solid pivot
and it puts you back where you dced