[Deprecated] Advanced Company

[stiff galleon]

I tried to figure this problem out for 2 weeks

[pearl fox]

what kind of desync?

[hearty frost]

I know there's some stuff going on with like LE/LEC/LLL and just general stuff the vanilla game causes itself too but don't know about flashlight desync happening

[pearl fox]

you cant leave the ship or land to orbit or something?

[stiff galleon]

There

[stiff galleon]

Desync problem there

I can provide my mod list

018d5022-2ea0-d707-5f4a-9ceab4dae380

There

[hearty frost]

Should enable the debugger as well and watch console and see where/when it happens

[stiff galleon]

You mean console?

[hearty frost]

Most if not all mods will/should have debug for changes they make

Console + Enable Debug in Log

[stiff galleon]

Thanks will test it tomorrow

[hearty frost]

🤘

[stiff galleon]

Maybe this will help me....

Just maybe

To rescue me from this hell

[hearty frost]

It's greatly helped me personally plus it helps me be able to communicate better with the modders about things

[stiff galleon]

First day encountered this bug I was like :

And today I look like

[solid pivot]

I cant find it :(

[stiff galleon]

Also terminal api will break the scarp value sometimes right?

[stiff galleon]

Find wut?

My heart

?

[pearl fox]

lol

[stiff galleon]

For you

[pearl fox]

the pizza

[stiff galleon]

Please take it

[hearty frost]

Does it? 😮

[stiff galleon]

Sometimes my friends can't see the scrap value

But I can

You didn't encountered that too???????

Because I'm pretty sure it was terminal api or facilities meltdown

[pearl fox]

btw

when you guys play modded multiplayer

do you guys open modded and then close it once you see the menu?

me and my friends do that. so that we preload everything and then join for the hud and such to show up properly

cuz most of the time. they end up seeing nothing

tho sometimes there are times they end up getting bugged

which we dont know how it happens. which is very rare

[hearty frost]

Everyone should ALWAYS do a dummy run, 1st time running. 😛

So this is a good shout ^^

[hearty frost]

No I have not encountered this, I don't think terminalapi would cause this?

[stiff galleon]

Did you install the facility meltdown?

[solid pivot]

1.1.0 Beta 9 Hotfix 8 (1.0.139)

• Attempt to fix animation errors with broken mods like MoreEmotes
• First step of adding way more sync to the lobby and players. This might lead to new errors. Needs testing. Names etc. should now be synced at all times.
• Added a couple of fixes for late joining on moon.
• Fixed an error which resulted in the mod not applying its patches on other mods when BepInEx Manager object was hidden.

Technical update incoming

This update might break some stuff tho

[hearty frost]

Is it breaking stuff because addressing sync stuff or breaking stuff for MoreEmotes? ._.

😂

[solid pivot]

Finally closing 10 tickets

https://github.com/FluffyFishGames/AdvancedCompany/issues/17

Does anyone have more info about that?

You see, with Github Tickets I can work on them whenever I find the time to do so.

So report your stuff on Github

but dont do it like this

https://github.com/FluffyFishGames/AdvancedCompany/issues/26

thats all you will get for that

[hearty frost]

Something tells me they didn't include a mod on that list ._. Last time I saw this happen was with an early version of helmetcams 😛 for me anyway

[solid pivot]

So its a non issue?

No mod should ever add 2 player models o.o

[hearty frost]

I honestly don't know because I saw this only when I first started playing LC and messing with mods, haven't encountered it since. I will install these mods now and find out.

[hearty frost]

They didn't even fill any of it in xD

[solid pivot]

yea

Very rude tbh

Its like slapping your d*** against my face

[stiff galleon]

Time for bed need to work tomorrow

Unless potatoes need me

[solid pivot]

I dont need you

[solid pivot]

You can test if the bug is fixed if you want

I already tested it tho

[stiff galleon]

Yeah will test it tomorrow

[hearty frost]

I mean TooManyEmotes have a newer version since then

OW INTERESTING the cam get fcked, even with updated TooManyEmotes.

it's like the camera gets places somewhere else xD

and view cam is... what cam is game now using here? xD or is it placing the world model in view cam?

I take it back, it wasn't. It's soon as you emote it keeps the model in view.

[devout owl]

its better that he says it tho

[shell coyote]

I'm not even angry, I'm just afraid

that It will fuck up my modpack

[devout owl]

it will prolly

dont update

or sum idk

after every update theres a patchnote

god told me that

[solid pivot]

You are very close to getting blocked

Then you can shit in your own home

I do this sync stuff specifically because of you and your weird mods

[devout owl]

btw lethal haptics isnt compatible

[solid pivot]

So maybe some gratitude is the better reaction.

Nobody here had problems with perks not syncing correctly, nobody

[hearty frost]

Pretty simple, don't reck your main modpack with updates, do it in a seperate pack

[solid pivot]

Still I invested hours into fortifying the sync of the lobby to prevent other mods from f'ing around with it

Its so funny people expect me to fix their 150 shit mods in their modpack

Then I do it and they react like that

So this was officially

the absolutely last fix

for compability

Congratulations

Give thanks to LostWanderer

I am done

[shell coyote]

I don't install stuff that is incompatabile with this mod

what

[solid pivot]

Wont care the slightest any longer

[hearty frost]

Unless the mod is tasty Potatoe, chillll 😛

[solid pivot]

I just add it to incompatible list and thats it

[shell coyote]

buddy I never said anything about other mods

even, I delete some if its detected to be incompatible

I just want to know what it breaks so I can improve my modpack around YOUR mod

I don't come around and yell at you to fix it, I just wait patiently even

[hearty frost]

We will get to figuring that out all together, just don't reck your main modpack until we know?

[shell coyote]

also, it's not a attidute you're seeing, think it more of a meme

[solid pivot]

I cant ever test all mods, thats why I add that disclaimer into changelog

so you know

Try it, if it doesnt work, create github issue and rollback

I specifically dont add new content rn

So nobody feels like missing out

If there are problems with certain mods

[hearty frost]

@solid pivot How can Corporate_Reconstructure reck the cams like that? Or is it because it's altering the terminals which use cams?

It's Corporate that's doing it

Although why people still using Corporate I don't know

[junior mountain]

Probably because this mod already adds new monitors

Lol

[hallow stump]

weird, I ise Corporate_Reconstructure with adv comp and it works just fine

[junior mountain]

He might have the additional monitors enabled on advanced

[hearty frost]

I can confirm it doesn't with TooManyEmotes

We're addressing a bug report.

[hearty frost]

This

[devout owl]

additonal monitora?

[hearty frost]

this

[solid pivot]

so its no AC error at all?

[hearty frost]

No 😛

[solid pivot]

I dont do stuff with cameras anyway

[hearty frost]

I know that's why I am confused.

Will do final test without AC

[hearty frost]

Huh?

[junior mountain]

Advanced company adds the option to spawn additional monitors which is why its bugging on corporate or whatever you are talking about

Or its general improvements

[hearty frost]

It's ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with AC. I just checked and can confirm.

[hearty frost]

AdvancedCompany does nothing with the monitors.

[junior mountain]

Do you have the general improvements mod

I think that one adds a bunch of monitors

[hearty frost]

It does but we're not talking about that.

[junior mountain]

I also remember once i put on the "two radar monitors" mod in and it bugged out the monitors

[hearty frost]

ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with GeneralImprovements (if they were to have it)

It's CorporateReconstruture.

[hallow stump]

Im running all those mods and not having any issues, just tested it, you might wanna reinstall them

[hearty frost]

I test stuff.

I do this.

@solid pivot 110% CorporateReconstructure. Why it's messing with cam placement I have 0 idea.

[hallow stump]

I dont think it is, unless the mod got glitched then he might need to reinstall it which has happened when I use it

[hearty frost]

.......

https://tenor.com/view/black-nerd-black-nerd-gif-26919340

[hallow stump]

Its a good mod but kind jank when it updates

[hearty frost]

It's outdated, outsourced. Use GeneralImprovements, not Corporate, literally stopped using it soon as they stopped updating and GI regularly updates.

[hallow stump]

I didnt know general improvments added its features sorry

[hearty frost]

It's all good, the more you know.

[solid pivot]

I just hopped a lot :3

Fixed another bug

you can now hop under water

[hearty frost]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-hop-gif-24700747

@solid pivot But yeah I have no idea why Corporate is messing with cam placement

[solid pivot]

It shouldnt tbh

Its weird

[hearty frost]

Unless they did something specific for like the older cam mods? I dunno 😛

[solid pivot]

feelsgood

[hearty frost]

30! 😮

[solid pivot]

the others I will look at later

1.1.0 Beta 9 Hotfix 9 (1.0.140)

• Apparatus value now correctly follows value multiplier.
• One vary hoppy cursed item lets you jump in water now. And even some other things :3

[hearty frost]

I wish I asked sooner, was gonna ask if you could get the multipliers to work if they stacked 😛 haha

[solid pivot]

This is the 42nd beta release.

[hearty frost]

but I can't login to my github still 😛

[solid pivot]

We are closing in on 69

[shell coyote]

hmm

good update

[hearty frost]

Gotta stop on 69 or go for 42069

[solid pivot]

14 likes left for top rates page 1

[shell coyote]

but will it

conflict with facilty meltdown

as it changes apparatus value itself

[hearty frost]

If anything wouldn't it multiply what the value is set up?

[solid pivot]

exactly

[hearty frost]

So if it's set at 300, that number would get multiplied?

Sweet

[sinful dune]

13 now

[ember jungle]

facility meltdown + lethal radiation & then change apparatus value to 240

[hardy bronze]

thank you for fixing the apparatus ❤️

[ember jungle]

what was wrong with the apparatus

[sinful dune]

read the replied message

[hardy bronze]

it wasnt affected by the value multiplier

[ember jungle]

it didn't click the first time mb

so apparatuses on eclipsed titan are worth more than one from experimentation?

[hearty frost]

It will be worth more based on mulipliers like weather.

[solid pivot]

(If you use multipliers, yea)

There might be a bug now tho. Just discovered it xD

It will use the base 0.4 multiplier from the game as a basis

Will get fixed in 141 later

DOnt want to update for 1 bugfix

[hearty frost]

What's the bug?

[solid pivot]

It will use the base 0.4 multiplier from the game as a basis <<<<

[shell coyote]

wait

got a new error

[solid pivot]

SO if it was worth 100 and you dont set any multipliers

[shell coyote]

how do I get logs again

[solid pivot]

it will get set to 40

[hearty frost]

not a cockroach? or like a grasshopper?

😄

[shell coyote]

lemme send before I rollback

to 138

[hearty frost]

So basically just ad .6 to what ever we do?

[shell coyote]

error is basically all players just die and dissapear

[solid pivot]

divide by 0.4

[hearty frost]

https://tenor.com/view/maths-gif-24525141

[solid pivot]

looking pretty alive

All info how to find logs etc. is on Github

[hearty frost]

I don't know, company workers these days have no soul 😛

So if I were to see App price to 200 it would be back at 80 for example? I am bad at maths :S

[solid pivot]

yes

[hearty frost]

IM A GENIUS

xD

[solid pivot]

so if you set it to 200 / 0.4 = 500, it will result in 200

You can also just multiply by 1 / 0.4 = 2.5

so value you want * 2.5

But 141 will fix this error

[hearty frost]

Yeah I am really bad with division xD Sweet thank you

[brazen quail]

0.4 * ApparatusSetPrice * Multiplier = Result

[hearty frost]

Yeah I did * too I am so bad with division xD

[solid pivot]

Really looking forward to see if that players dying error is happening to others as well and is steam exclusive

Players are only killed by my mod when they join on a moon

Or by turrets when they decide to pick up ears

Those are all mentions of "KillPlayer"

first is removing killplayer from turrets

second is the place where I kill players

last is to unequip stuff on death

I would find it funny if he actually means that the players are dying when joining on moon

Which is intended

[hearty frost]

Isn't that the safest way anyway without causing crazy desync?

[solid pivot]

The only thing which can happen is that Handshake isnt set to null

which would result in players dying when landing :D

Handshake process is prolonged when Client needs to create the level

at least in LAN this isnt happening

[devout owl]

fr?

[solid pivot]

xD

No

[devout owl]

what he yapperdoodling about

[lost python]

wait did they remove custom emotes again

😭

[solid pivot]

[lost python]

huh so normal members just can't ig

[simple fossil]

is this intentional?

the pose

[solid pivot]

No, not intentional.

create bug report or Ill forget it

Wont work on the mod today

I already worked 10 hours today

[fiery glen]

when i upgrade sprint speed
i become immune to knee-high water slowness
is this intentional or recreatable by others

[shell coyote]

idk what causes it

just when I first tried to head to company with my crew, they all died and dissapeared(It was a ongoing save)

if I ever were to switch back to last update and have it again, I'll send it next time

currently playing

but I'm sure I saw a big chunk of red lines relating to AC there

[solid pivot]

sure

thats why you never can provide a log

[simple fossil]

try to recreate it and send it here https://github.com/FluffyFishGames/AdvancedCompany/issues

[solid pivot]

Are you wearing flippers?

[fiery glen]

no

i noticed it on flooded experimentation

idk if that helps

lol

its not a big deal

i wonder if its because sprint speed makes sure that you have a certain walkspeed without checking for water or whatever

i dont know code

[solid pivot]

nah, I am only multiplying values :)

Water should set movementHindered

[vagrant pebble]

ack, thought I had this issue (and similar issues by proxy) fixed, is it just opening the terminal while emoting that breaks the positions?

[solid pivot]

Test it with the latest version first before trying anything

[vagrant pebble]

assuming those are the reproduction steps, I checked on version 1.0.138/139/140 and on all three it seemed fine

[alpine charm]

yo guys what is in the new update

[solid pivot]

Then these people probably had MoreEmotes installed as well or smth

[vagrant pebble]

maybe, cause I know I reset bone positions

[solid pivot]

Yea, they had MoreEmotes installed as well

https://github.com/FluffyFishGames/AdvancedCompany/issues/30

[vagrant pebble]

[solid pivot]

MoreEmotes is cancer

[vagrant pebble]

just outta curiosity I'm gonna download that modpack and see if it breaks, could be some weird incompat causing it

were they probably on 138 when this was posted?

yeah

[solid pivot]

Can btw confirm that Strange Objects will lead to multiplier going to infinity

its setting the value here and retrieving my modified value before

so it multiplies my multiplied value and saves it and my mod will then take that as a basis to multiply the value again when asked for the value

and so on

You have to set StrangeObjectValueMultiplier to 1.0f basically

nah, not even that will work

Because its reading the value I return which is of course the multiplied one :D

So the game take that into account

[fiery glen]

i knew it

[solid pivot]

There are two potential ways to fix this, one requires Strange Objects to change something in their code and the other one would make AC ignore everything you set into that variable

and make the multiplier by Strange Objects just dont work

Is the dev of Strange Objects active?

I mean, many mods are practically dead

Dunno if its actively being developed?

Another thing I could simply add with AC: PRefixing SpawnScrapInLevel and set the multiplier to 0.4 then

So all other mods have to use that method if they want to change multipliers

[vagrant pebble]

hmmm so uhh

I'm not really sure how to describe it other than it seems like maybe some compatibility patch is causing other stuff to break maybe?

I need to get some food but I'll look more into this later

[shell coyote]

if you wanna test modpacks

I can provide mine

probs the most usefull modpack for you to detect bugs

of AC w othermods

[vagrant pebble]

I already found the bug

[solid pivot]

👍

[hearty frost]

OH MY GOD! The stank arm got huge bufff!

[pulsar robin]

Does this mod work with Late Game Upgrades?

[spark condor]

Does this mean I do actually need MoreCompany even if I'm just using raw .cosmetics files

[solid pivot]

no

[spark condor]

Alright, should I ignore the error? Put it in a github issue?

[ember nimbus]

the game doesn't want to start

[bleak frigate]

wasnt expecting potatoe to actually make hall of shame

i thought it was a joke

[spark condor]

Where at?

[hearty frost]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[bleak frigate]

in the bepinex log

[hearty frost]

All seriousness here! It's an achievement to get on the list!

[spark condor]

I should turn warning log levels back on for AC now lol

[hearty frost]

xD

Imma come in one day and jsut say AC was the thing to break everything all alone just to earn a spot in glory ._.

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-laugh-kek-intensifies-kek_intensifies-gif-10111909

[smoky shore]

Yeah, I discovered that bug by accidentally pressing X while emoting. Right now the only solution is restarting your game

[solid pivot]

Not true

I fixed it in 139

[shell coyote]

[Error :AdvancedCompany] Error while adding ship decor:
[Error :AdvancedCompany] System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection.
Parameter name: index
at System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T].get_Item (System.Int32 index) [0x00009] in <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_0009
at AdvancedCompany.Terminal.Applications.StoreApplication.Main (AdvancedCompany.Game.MobileTerminal terminal, System.String[] args) [0x00244] in G:\Unity\AdvancedCompany\UpgradeCompany\Terminal\Applications\StoreApplication.cs:103

[vagrant python]

ok So I went back and put in 2 mods only

AC / Monitor labels, This is what I get

I guess I could upload this to github if you find that necessary

[spark condor]

this is weird because I'm also running monitor labels in a big pack with ac and don't see this, did you try a fresh profile and a fresh save?

[vagrant python]

Yep

Just submitted a bug report on it

It's odd though

When solo initially on my old profile it was fine
When someone joined, it broke for them

When making a new profile with only the 2 mods ONLY, it broke my inventory as well

[spark condor]

crazy

[vagrant python]

What version of AC are you on?

This issue happened in 140

[spark condor]

1.0.140

[vagrant python]

Send me your mod code

[spark condor]

018d51db-4fc3-377f-670d-b973ef44ead4
fair warning its a big one

[vagrant python]

nw

[gritty roost]

having a game breaking bug with AC, and cannot figure out what's fucking it up

[vagrant python]

What is the issue?

Issue still stands@spark condor

It sets my inventory to 10 even if it's 3

[spark condor]

like 10 slots?

[vagrant python]

yep

[spark condor]

wtf

[vagrant python]

The 2 homies kissing suit

:omegakek:

[spark condor]

LOL

I should remove it since noone wears it but its too funny not to leave it there

[vagrant python]

yeah it gave me a chuckle

[spark condor]

Just started a fresh save, inv is 3. sounds like some sortof weird relic from lethal things

[gritty roost]

Everything works for host, but the second a player joins the lobby, he only sees black. All the UI elements are present at the same time, centered in the middle of the screen. The player doesn't show up to the host, and gets softlocked inside the game, needing to Alt+F4 to exit

[vagrant python]

What version of AC

[gritty roost]

newest. I've tried disabling most mods, and issue is constant

[vagrant python]

I had this a few moments ago but forget what mod I dumped to fix it

[gritty roost]

still disabling mods to see if it works, but for now AC being disabled fixes it

[vagrant python]

Try downgrading to 139

[spark condor]

Anything you guys find would be helpful to share so it can be put here: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/PotatoePet/AdvancedCompany/wiki/1238-compability/

[gritty roost]

Console also shows no errors, both for host and player

[gritty roost]

how can i do that with r2modman?

[vagrant python]

Just download it from the website

🤓

[vagrant python]

Go to 139

[gritty roost]

did not work at all

same issue

[vagrant python]

Try 138

I goofed and realized 139 was also pushed last night

[gritty roost]

i'm not gonna spend the whole night manually downgrading to see if it works fam :V

[vagrant python]

🤷‍♂️

[gritty roost]

i need to figure out what mod is breaking AC

[vagrant python]

It could also be vice versa

[gritty roost]

that's easier i think

who knows, i'm already going insane with this shit

[vagrant python]

First time?

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

So upon my own testing, seems 138 is the fix for these issues

[sinful dune]

Alright so here's the easiest way you can check

Take half of your mod pack and divide it into two chunks with AC company as something that will be in both

The half that fails to launch 99/100 will be the one with that mod in it

Take THAT half and split it again and by process of elimination you will narrow it down quite quickly

[vagrant python]

THEY DON'T WANT TO BE UP ALL NIGHT!!!!

/s

[sinful dune]

It's the absolute quickest way to find mod incompatibilities for any modded game besides having the knowledge to find conflicts in a crash log

[gritty roost]

i got an exam tomorrow but cannot think with this fucking modpack not working

[spark condor]

U got a deps list?

[sinful dune]

If you have 100 mods duplicate the modpack and then delete the bottom 50, if it doesn't launch congrats you know the conflicitng mod is in the top 50, repeat until you find it

[vagrant python]

I was joking entirely

[gritty roost]

and yeah, pisses me off that i thought everything was working good (testing solo) and then i went to test something ELSE on multiplayer and found everything is broken

[gritty roost]

i do, testing 138 rn

[spark condor]

I just experienced the same thing last night, 8 people in the game and ship wouldn't land after 1st moon, everytime

[gritty roost]

138 is a bust

console says nothing special

[vagrant python]

🤷‍♂️

[tropic frigate]

trying to play with two friends, they keep getting a black fog screen whenever they try to join

it works perfectly fine for me

we've made sure we have the exact same configs, mods, everything

[ember jungle]

anyone else ever had this before? what fixed it for you?

[tropic frigate]

anyone?

[vagrant python]

what version?

[tropic frigate]

game version or mod version?

[vagrant python]

mod

[tropic frigate]

v1.0.140

[vagrant python]

Try downgrading to 138
I would suggest submitting your logs though

Most likely another mod is breaking with AC

[tropic frigate]

thing is, it's working fine for me

[vagrant python]

Ye

I had same issues

[eternal mauve]

does 137 work?

[tropic frigate]

downgrading didn't work

[eternal mauve]

to 137?

[tropic frigate]

138

[eternal mauve]

oh wait no yea u right

this is weird

do you guys know what other mods you updated?

and if everyone downgraded to the same thing

[tropic frigate]

yeah we downgraded to the same thing

we didn't touch any other mods

i'm being smart and turning on logging

this is the whole relevant part

on my end atleast

[opal turret]

Hello, I'm having an issue with a friend, for some reason, he installed the mod and he has all his pearks enabled (like, he has 10 inventory slot) despite not having any xp or anything, just fresh install

[tropic frigate]

anyone please?

we've tried turning on logs, downgrading, reinstalling, changing settings

[opal turret]

I've also had that problem but I think it's not related to this mod specifically, it can happen randomly regardless of which mods you have, sadly, just keep trying until it works ;/

[gritty roost]

exactly my issue

https://github.com/FluffyFishGames/AdvancedCompany/issues/42

check this screenshot to see if that's what they see it

[tropic frigate]

that's exactly what, yeah

[gritty roost]

thanks. if you could, would it be possible for you to go in the github issue and comment on it, saying you're experiencing the same issues?

would help showing potato it's not a one-off

[hardy bronze]

about that... it doesn't work

i tested it just now

[pulsar robin]

Is this mod compatible with late game upgrades?

[hardy bronze]

facility meltdown and lethal radiation custom value doesnt get affected by the multiplier

[barren rover]

``The mathematically best way to find mod conflicts:

1. Eliminate half of the mods in your mod list
2. Run the game and check for conflict
   If conflict is still present:
   Repeat process with the mods currently enabled
   else:
   Repeat process with mods currently disabled
   ``

[tropic frigate]

i'm sure it won't be time consuming at all to send my friend a new profile every single time i disable or enable a mod

[barren rover]

It isnt

i did it with a friend in like 20 minutes

sort explorer by alphabet, tell them what mods to delete from the bepinex plugins folder

"delete from [x] to [x] and launch the game"

[tropic frigate]

well now if it isn't one of those mods i'd have to reinstall them all

[barren rover]

No you can just ctrl+z and theyll come back loll

Better yet, select half, drag&drop into a folder on ur desktop

That way you can just drop it back into plugins folder once u check

Id give up on using R2 for it though, too many tick boxes 😭

[hearty frost]

Best way to avoid mod conflicts, cross reference what you're downloading, don't download in build. I hear some of you install like 50+ mods before even launching up. 👀

[barren rover]

True, Version out your modpack, with incremental changes

[hearty frost]

^

[barren rover]

Keep a log of all updates and config changes if possible ☝️ 🤓

[hearty frost]

And if it helps stick "DO NOT UPDATE" in the name of it so dummy friends don't update it when they see updates.

[barren rover]

Im learning C++ rn, ill cook a new mod manager that makes this stuff easy and doesnt run so terribly

😂

[solar girder]

yo i have a question

[hearty frost]

Or piss of steam to give us a workshop 😛

[barren rover]

Steam workshop mods usually rely on some standard API though from the game

Not just steams call entirely

[hearty frost]

Which Zeeks could eventually set up (hopefully)

[barren rover]

What potatoes new game hes cooking will have 🙏

[echo bone]

And the bad weather multipliers are still bugged, everytime you visit a moon with bad weather the amount of items (and value that option is enabled) increases exponentially even on next moons with normal weather

This is Titan with 150% amount of items

[arctic sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/cpr-gif-26987822

[barren rover]

Do u have other mods installed?

Can you post ur preset file from advanced company?

[echo bone]

There are like 90 in there. Maybe it's an incompatibility, I thought it was a common occurrence and happened to the majority
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[barren rover]

Did u change the weather multipliers from their default values?

All the overrides are set to False

"rainy_weather": {
      "override_scrap_amount_multiplier": false,
      "scrap_amount_multiplier": 1.1,
      "override_scrap_value_multiplier": false,
      "scrap_value_multiplier": 1.1
    }

None of the weather multipliers are set to 1.5, and titans values arent changed, i think your having issues elsewhere

[arctic sonnet]

I'mma need a darn gif for people eventually-

Dependencies

[arctic sonnet]

I mean more like:

[barren rover]

https://www.screentogif.com/ @arctic sonnet

[arctic sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/sungwoncho-prozd-algorithms-gif-2233582409731616117

But I want it to be exaggerated

and be like

DEPENDENCIES

anyways I'll get the modpack >~>

and poke around

[echo bone]

Had them active, saw it was bugged and turned them off but looks like it's still affecting, I'm pretty sure it's advanced the one causing the issue since turning the whole mod off fixes it, but who knows

[barren rover]

Turning the whole mod off would fix it if its a conflict

you can turn AC off or you can turn the conflicing mod off

[echo bone]

Makes sense

[barren rover]

#1186884307332108339 message
This is the fastest way to find the conflict

I suggest changing all weather values to 150% for testing

[echo bone]

BepInEx-BepInExPack-5.4.2100
FlipMods-TooManyEmotes-1.8.2
Evaisa-HookGenPatcher-0.0.5
Evaisa-LethalLib-0.13.2
boring-360View-1.0.5
Suskitech-AlwaysHearActiveWalkies-1.4.4
amnsoft-EmployeeAssignments-1.1.0
TanmanG-Forest_Giant_Motionsense-1.0.2
RickArg-Helmet_Cameras-2.1.5
Hamunii-JetpackFallFix-1.1.0
Hamunii-JetpacksCarryBigItems-1.0.2
kuba6000-LC_Masked_Fix-0.0.2
Rune580-LethalCompany_InputUtils-0.6.1
TheDeadSnake-Touchscreen-1.0.8
Azim-LethalPresents-1.0.4
HomelessGinger-MaskedEnemyOverhaul-3.1.1
x753-Mimics-2.3.2
notnotnotswipez-MoreCompany-1.7.6
Sligili-More_Emotes-1.3.3
x753-More_Suits-1.4.1
CTNOriginals-OuterDoorButtons-1.0.2
LethalOrg-ProgressiveDeadline-2.0.0
Nebulaetrix-ScanFix-1.0.3
togglemybits-Strange_Objects-1.2.3
Hexnet111-SuitSaver-1.1.4
quackandcheese-ToggleMute-1.3.0
Verity-TooManySuits-1.0.5
Coomfy-CoomfyDungeon-1.0.12
Phrawg-Phrawgs_Additional_Hats-1.2.2
NiaNation-AbsasCosmetics-1.2.3
ZTK-ZTKCosmetics-2.0.0
Hollow-HollowHearts_skinpack-1.2.4
Ozone-NC_LC_API-0.0.5
Ozone-BepInUtils-1.2.1
Ozone-Cabinet_Item_Storage-0.0.4
Badham_Mods-SCPFoundationDungeon-2.1.0
EliteMasterEric-CleanerLogs-1.0.0
Jordo-NeedyCats-1.1.1
CharlesE2-HostFixes-1.0.4
MrHydralisk-EnhancedRadarBooster-1.6.0
Who-Welcome_To_Ooblterra-0.7.0
jockie-LethalExpansionCore-1.3.15
gamehog44-LethalRadiation-1.2.1
Orion-DontBlink-1.1.0

HolographicWings-LethalExpansion-1.3.22
sfDesat-Orion-1.2.3
Ceelery-Kast-1.0.3
KayNetsua-E_Gypt_Moon-2.0.13
Jamil-Corporate_Restructure-1.0.6
SimpleDev-Kilogrammes-1.0.0
Drakorle-MoreItems-1.0.2
Pooble-LCBetterSaves-1.7.3
scoopy-Scoopys_Variety_Mod-0.6.5
Sophisticasean-KeysLockDoors-1.1.2
Woecust-Immersive_Visor-0.2.1
malco-Lategame_Upgrades-3.1.0
PortableNavi-BetterInverseTeleporter-1.0.2
FlipMods-ObjectVolumeController-1.0.4
Zaggy1024-TwoRadarMaps-1.1.2
IntegrityChaos-Diversity-1.1.10
OrangeSoft-Unlimited_Sell_Mod-1.0.0
NotAtomicBomb-TerminalApi-1.5.1
matsuura-HealthMetrics-1.0.2
EliteMasterEric-SlimeTamingFix-1.0.2
MigisFring-ScaledPenalties-1.0.0
MrHydralisk-EnhancedLockpicker-1.1.3
axd1x8a-LCAmmoCheck-1.1.1
AgentRev-ShootableMouthDogs-1.0.1
Magic_Wesley-Infernis-1.5.2
IAmBatby-LethalLevelLoader-1.0.7
Ozone-Runtime_Netcode_Patcher-0.2.5
BudgetAirpods-InsanityRemastered-1.1.2
ShaosilGaming-FlashlightFix-1.0.7
PC-FireExitFlip-1.0.0
PostMortem-BetterLightning-1.0.3
Zaggy1024-PathfindingLagFix-1.2.0
MassiveNewCoilers-FixCentipedeLag-2023.12.7
bigmcnugget-VanillaContentExpansion-0.1.8
PotatoePet-AdvancedCompany-1.0.140
Tronald-TerminalCommander-1.9.2
AinaVT-LethalConfig-1.3.4
zMods-DynamicScrapsAmount-1.0.4
linkoid-DissonanceLagFix-1.0.0
Major_And_Skiz-MoreInteriors-1.3.0
SpookyFingas-Cute_Cosmetics-2.0.0
ZG-BetterSpec-1.1.3
Magic_Wesley-Etern-1.3.4
Magic_Wesley-Acidir-2.0.0
Rocksnotch-CupboardFix-1.1.0
flerouwu-LC_FastStartup-1.1.1
jaspercreations-Scopophobia-1.0.2

[barren rover]

zMods-DynamicScrapsAmount-1.0.4
probably this one

[gritty roost]

this would be nice and dandy if fucking r2modman didn't take 40 seconds every time i clicked delete on a mod

that's the thing that makes it such a chore

[barren rover]

yea thats why u use explorer

like file explorer

[gritty roost]

ah, gotcha

[echo bone]

That changes the amount but not the value, and before I turned the multiplier off a single brush cost 880$
No worries, I will start testing stuff later

Thanks for helping tho

[barren rover]

R2 is useless, dont bother troubleshooting with it, just take half the mods, put in a folder on ur desktop for safekeeping, R2 cant be bothered to check if theyre gone most of the time

[gritty roost]

anyways not the dude you're replying to but i'll leave this to potato to check tomorrow

[barren rover]

U also have like 150 items spawning though

124 😭

like 47 credits per scrap, the average isnt too bad

[echo bone]

Yeah the quota is pretty high at this point so DynamycScrap adds some but not that much, something else is getting in the way, and as I said if I turn on the value multiplier from AC the value of the scrap gets ridiculously high

[arctic sonnet]

Christ almighty- I am losing it laughing here.

so

ok 1. You have LethalLevelLoader and LethalExpansion - remove Lethal Expansion, shove Lethal Expansion Core in, thank me later

don't worry about all the warnings of dependency issue for that

but also

[barren rover]

Thats rude 😭

[arctic sonnet]

I was looking up mod after mod to figure out what things done

no no

let me get to that 🤣

so

in the mod list

There's this: MrHydralisk-EnhancedLockpicker-1.1.3

and I'm like "Huh, that sounds cool

so I search up lockpick

I'm fucking adding this mod SO FAST

XD

can just imagine a lockpicker on a door

"So.. we'll start at pin 5.... pin 4 looks loose.. we got 3 stuck"

"We'll shimmy this and test to see if there's a false pin..."

But yeah, remove LE - put in LEC. It's like the #1 rule of LE now if you have LLL

[arctic sonnet]

and what Amdy said here- I agree.

That, or one of these expansion-like mods... don't know some of these.

You already have LEC - so just delete LE and leave it at that. Anytime LE reinstalls itself, kill it.

[echo bone]

☝️

[barren rover]

it got fixed

if it was a problem, i never noticed tbh, u mightve just had a conflict the whole time

It def works as expected now

[arctic sonnet]

the biggest question: Did you remove LE

[barren rover]

I think LE might have a scrap multiplier option in its settings, which could easily be the problem lol

[arctic sonnet]

I could care less if it causes the issues or not

Kill LE Dantor

Shoot it

Lenny style

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gun-reload-getting-ready-gif-17031430

[eternal mauve]

Yes it should be but from what I can tell both this mod and LGU are having issues out of the blue

[echo bone]

It does. It shouldnt affect tho since I have LECore disabling LE but as I said, I will try

[eternal mauve]

Yeah then you should be fine dantor

[pulsar robin]

Oh dang, well thanks for responding!

[eternal mauve]

Actually no, it looks like Evaisa’s LethalLib seems to be causing the problem, so any mod using that rn is having issues

[barren rover]

I havent had any issues with LethalLib

[hearty frost]

What issue is LethalLib causing?

[remote fox]

Anyway to disable Bunny Ears? Can only see Light Shoes to disable

[tropic frigate]

after 3 hours (bit off from 20 minutes), i discovered the incompatibility. lethal level loader

unfortunately lethal level loader is a critical part of my modpackl

[arctic sonnet]

I have come to a conclusion that lockpickinglawyer doesn't work with the resonance mod... sadface

[swift merlin]

Since the last 2 patches I have had quite a few errors, has this happened to anyone else?
For example, I can't change inventory slots, I can't take items, the ship's doors don't close and appear open in orbit. all this from the patches

[eternal mauve]

There’s been a massive increase in bug reports for both this mod and LGU, but they havent had any major changes. White spike said (and I REALLY hope I’m getting this right) some stuff in LethalLib changed behind their back…

[eternal mauve]

Try downgrading LethalLib?

[swift merlin]

I'll try that, I was just reading the other comments. XD

[meager cradle]

That all slots available inventory bug for non-hosts sure is wild

[wild silo]

@hearty frost i noticed you use custom fov. do u not have issues with giant helmet/visor shadow?

[hearty frost]

What you mean

[wild silo]

default fov vs 72 fov

[solid pivot]

Dunno when I will come to fixing the current bugs. The changelog states that there might be problems and yea, downgrade for now if you dont want to beta test the mod

I was playing FFXIV. I have other stuff to do as well

Maybe I will have some time tomorrow but cant promise anything

I want to start AC: Rogue tomorrow

[hearty frost]

Ow yeah that comes with the FOV 😛

[remote fox]

Sorry to ask again, but is there any way to disable the Bunny Ears scrap item? Can only find the Light Shoes to disable

Oh, it appeared, must have been imcompatibility with LategameUpgrades, since I just disabled it

[eternal mauve]

Should I get that

I keep hearing it

And I like story games

But idk cause it seems weird

Also out of the AC’s I’ve only played 3 Remastered :P it’s pretty good though

[tropic frigate]

has anyone else experienced players being unable to join with lethal level loader enabled?

[eternal mauve]

Are you sure it’s LLL thats the problem? Evaisa’s LethalLib got an update that broke a lot of stuff

[hearty frost]

This works with AC btw ❤️

[stiff galleon]

Morning guys

Time for work

[stark berry]

try report in github too, since reporting only in github i guess like mentioned in pin

[remote fox]

Oh damn, completely forgot to check in there, sorry for the trouble

[eternal mauve]

have you downgraded lethal lib yet?

[remote fox]

Not yet, might try to do that

[eternal mauve]

downgrade just one version, we're not sure why yet but the most recent version broke a lot of mods

[eternal mauve]

hey by the way, did downgrading LethalLib help?

[remote fox]

Downgrading AC to v1.0.138 seems to fix the issue, so I might settle for that

[eternal mauve]

sorry hehe, what was the issue exactly? Just so others/potatoe knows in the future

[remote fox]

Incompatibity with MonitorLabels, my camera freezes when I die and only comes back when I respawn in the ship. There's an issue on github already, I just forgot to check

https://github.com/FluffyFishGames/AdvancedCompany/issues/40

[eternal mauve]

ohhh, really weird :P thanks for posting the issue!

[swift merlin]

Yes, almost everything was solved. The only thing that was bad was that people could somehow get super speed, but nothing that prevented us from playing.

[arctic sonnet]

Item desync

happens whenever you try to pick up an item that is already picked up by somebody else. Fixed by teleporting. Just know whenever you fail to pick up an object once - stop trying

[kindred kiln]

It might be nice to add something to the AdvancedCompany.Lib namespace for getting the Player.HeadMount object that head equipment attaches to (assuming I haven't missed a method for that)

I'm having to resort to reflection for OpenBodyCams compatibility at the moment

it's also honestly a little unfortunate to have to do a Player lookup for each of multiple API calls to get these objects, but that's not a big deal

[tropic frigate]

i think we were having the problem before lethallib got the update

[dreamy temple]

Not a real problem until I get a proper report 😛

[tropic frigate]

[hallow mortar]

its not LLL

its moreinteriors

some sort of conflict with AC I believe

[hallow mortar]

.

[tropic frigate]

oh! thanks

[hallow mortar]

the 1.3.0 update makes people spawn in the void

when they join my lobby

i rolled back to 1.2.1 and its fine

[arctic sonnet]

Is there like... any possibility a debug function could be made to make mods load - and then it runs through the list of like... everything? ... You know how there's an FPS test in old games where it shoves every possible combination of lighting, aliasing, etc - to see how it performed?..

where is like.... a debug where it loads [all mods in x pack] - forces all moons to load in their own like... sandbox'd sections. Forces 15 scrap to all spawn the same, and test to see if all 15 spawn correctly - on mesh (or in the boundaries of map) - etc, like

run through all combinations of code

and see what spits out

and the same way scrap spawns - it forces like 3 of every enemy to spawn out of each vent that was generated, killing them off and repeating it - basically trying to go through all scenarios within a minute or two of revving the test

n then spits out "Hey, on this map: calculatepolygon happened" "This map: scrap failed to spawn in 5 times" - somethingsomethingsomethin'

currently just feels like the old days of minecraft packs just tossing shit together 'n finding out why they angy - or Skyrim "load order" apparently (never done so, but the more I hear about it the more it seems to be problematic to figure some order)

just - throw it all in box - hit button - let it run a set of simulations 'n get all conflicts possible after it tries every combination of spawning, generating (up to X times), weather, you name it

n I'm assuming you can just fast forward everything, like how you can run through an FPS check faster if you cap it and it can reach that cap - or "tick rate" in minecraft, you probably could just fast forward all the simulations and run through an entire day of all this random testing and checking for errors within seconds . -.

(Entire day meaning - entire day of being on a moon)

Actually that'd be some lovely debug assistance if none of this is possible... hey @solid pivot - could ye figure a way to make the game faster?

not shortening the day length - the day length stays 700 (example, by default) - but from landing to leaving gets shortened to like 30 seconds

i guess like the days of cheat engine in the past... I remember fast forwarding flash games through some process in there - forgot what it's called.

[eternal ivy]

wdym by "from landing to leaving"?

From 8am to midnight?

Because that's what day length is for.

It's not for "shortening the day length"

[dreamy temple]

you can't do that

[eternal ivy]

Yo can.

[arctic sonnet]

😭

[eternal ivy]

Set day length lower than 700?

[arctic sonnet]

@eternal ivy I think batby knows what I'm talking about

the day length is set to 700 - but the day starts and ends at 12 within 30 seconds

you fast forward the day

[eternal ivy]

Yes, that's what day length option is for.

[arctic sonnet]

-w-' ...

ok how do I rephrase this

[eternal ivy]

It controls how many seconds are in 16 ingame hours

[arctic sonnet]

I want 1 minute of what would happen in the game, from AI moving, scrap spawning, daytime shifting, etc - to happen within 5 seconds

[dreamy temple]

unity won't let you do that in a general way you want

[eternal ivy]

The day will still be 8am to midnight

[dreamy temple]

@eternal ivy they want the entire game to move faster

not the day

[arctic sonnet]

Literally faster.

If you know minecraft, I want the tickrate to be x10

[vagrant python]

Think like Age Of War on 2x

[arctic sonnet]

in a sense

[eternal ivy]

Ah, so literal fast forward

[arctic sonnet]

Yes

[eternal ivy]

Yeah...

[arctic sonnet]

I want it faster

That'd debug so much shit

[vagrant python]

I am speed.

[arctic sonnet]

just fast forward all spawn scenarios, all scrap spawns, daytime cycle, outdoor enemies

[dreamy temple]

yeahh time.deltatime can be changed to support changes to an extent but iirc the physics stuff gets weird if you pushed it to an extreme + a lot of mechanics won't be doing stuff with that in mind

[eternal ivy]

Like?

[arctic sonnet]

within 30 seconds

so we know if the map has calculatepolygon issues

interferes with this or that mod

[eternal ivy]

You can spawn outdoor enemies with debug menu

[arctic sonnet]

but that's spawning it in - I want the game to do it naturally

[eternal ivy]

Scrap is unaffected by time

[dreamy temple]

thats more of an LC issue than anything

[arctic sonnet]

I went in with debug tools and forced 5x enemies of all kinds to spawn in

[eternal ivy]

Daytime cycle doesn't really do anything other than visuals

[arctic sonnet]

couldn't get calculatepolygonpath

I go in without touching a thing - calculatepolygonpath

I can't force it

[dreamy temple]

yeah its not a consistent bug

[arctic sonnet]

it's not even a visible bug

[dreamy temple]

its when the game sets a navmeshagent to a destination it can't get to

[arctic sonnet]

when it happened, I visually checked all enemies

[dreamy temple]

yes ik

its a lc issue

[vagrant python]

Not consistent? That's a bold statement

That was a little over the top

Let me dial that back

[arctic sonnet]

No no, very bold indeed. It happens consistently, just replicating it is bloody impossible for me >~>'

[vagrant python]

What I mean is, I assume for debugging
Not consistent but it is very much a common plague

[dreamy temple]

It's not a reproducable bug*

[vagrant python]

Yeah

Shit makes my FPS down to like 40

[dreamy temple]

The game needs to be safer and check all the destinations it's telling the navmeshagents to go to

[arctic sonnet]

I even edited the enemies to be gone. I literally killed all enemies off with the unity editor/explorer thing and it still said it

damn thing calculates even if what exists doesn't exist.

[vagrant python]

Between that bug and the current bug with Savage company and AC

[arctic sonnet]

I'm telling you, it's the one bug never to be fixed.

[vagrant python]

It makes me want to not respawn

[arctic sonnet]

Minecraft has Herobrine, LC has Calculatepolygonpath

[dreamy temple]

no no it can very much be fixed

[arctic sonnet]

I'll see it within a year

2 years

you name it -u-

[dreamy temple]

it could be fixed by a mod v. easy

[arctic sonnet]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

I dare someone to figure a solution for it

[dreamy temple]

i just told you the solution

[arctic sonnet]

not in a coded form. I gave like 10 ideas how the hell it could be fixed but I can't make it appear >~>'

n I can't even deduce it's an enemy doing it

[dreamy temple]

it is an enemy

[arctic sonnet]

I literally deleted them all

[dreamy temple]

this is the solution

[arctic sonnet]

and it still said it

[dreamy temple]

then you did it incorrectly 😛

[arctic sonnet]

why is the game even calculating it if they're gone >->'

I literally deactivated them with the editor! >:c

They're not even in the code

[dreamy temple]

yeah that doesnt stop that

[arctic sonnet]

WUT U MEAN THAT DOESN'T STOP IT >:x

THEY GONE

;- ;

[dreamy temple]

deactivating isn't deleting

or despawning

etc.

[arctic sonnet]

they're not even a source to click on the right

I hit the big ol red button - they poof :<

they don't exist on that list

n yet it spams me with the infamous calculatepolygonpath

I had a pack with 0 red text, no errors, no darn conflicts... n I spent 40-50 hours trying to figure out the last damn nail in the coffin

n I simply cant 🥹

Gave up, so the pack probably has 50+ errors now cause I hear lethallib screwed stuff up, some mods aren't happy with emotes, AC presets-this-or-that

yadayada

[dreamy temple]

you can't figure out the nail in the coffin

its not something you can prevent

because its a basegame problem

[oblique nacelle]

I've had this error appear a lot of times when I spawn a lot of hoarding bugs and make them all attack me

this way is a pretty consistent way of reproducing it

[arctic sonnet]

I had thought so many things, like - is it hoarding bugs? maybe there are so many that they surround someone in the middle

I spawned like 30

none

[dreamy temple]

please

[dreamy temple]

.

[arctic sonnet]

I miss my darn emotes...

[oblique nacelle]

zeekers gotta fix his darn enemyai class lol

[arctic sonnet]

am i the only one that wasn't on board for such an early patch to be a challenge thing?...

[vagrant python]

Wdym

[arctic sonnet]

like - daily/weekly challenges get created ages later for stuff

look at like slay the spire or atomicrops

[dreamy temple]

i dont think anyone asked

[vagrant python]

Oh, that is zzz content to me

Not interested

[arctic sonnet]

Just a weird thing to try to get out the door pretty early ., .

[dreamy temple]

zeekers is prob adding whatever they want

[arctic sonnet]

let zeekerss be zeekerss I guess . ,.

[vagrant python]

This is something I haven't seen anyone report but what's up with dogs getting back up when they're dead when shooting a firework?

[meager cradle]

...? omg

[arctic sonnet]

They heard it obviously.

ye know- i could've delivered that better with certain emotes..

[vagrant python]

Yeah, I have limited stickers to respond with

[arctic sonnet]

Imagine an emote like this:

[vagrant python]

Cringe changes always made in any discord you go to

:cope:

[arctic sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-goodness-why-didnt-i-think-of-that-facepalm-the-simpsons-gif-16763233

[vagrant python]

They just do walking animation but it does throw you off guard

Because you can't be too sure if a love one walks in

[arctic sonnet]

or - it keeps you on guard

My ass would clench if I saw a field of dead dogs suddenly stand up near me

don't you mistake it - I'll go eagle-eyed for a few seconds

I could spot a key at 9 PM in the dark 30 meters away

but only for those few seconds

[vagrant python]

Lmao

Giving keys the ability to lock doors

Game changer

[arctic sonnet]

mhm

[vagrant python]

:chefkiss:

[arctic sonnet]

there is a lockpicking mod that apparently makes them jam doors too

[vagrant python]

It's busted

[arctic sonnet]

almost tempted to get that mod just to not change the time it takes to open doors - but to lock em with them

it'd give their weight some use - ,-

[vagrant python]

When you unlock a door, it starts to try and jam it and goes negative time

[arctic sonnet]

oh

it doesn't work levels of "it's busted"

[vagrant python]

So don't enable the jam feature

[arctic sonnet]

:c

well then they're just bloody useless <~<

[vagrant python]

I still use it for the 10 seconds over 30

30 is ridiculous

[arctic sonnet]

eh I mean

you gotta give it a different mindset

you plug it there for 30 seconds, as you explore elsewhere

[vagrant python]

I mean, yeah you can drop it off and run around but sometimes with the generation, you're literally twiddling your thumbs

[arctic sonnet]

if you, or anyone else, comes back to the door - and they see an open door with a lockpicker on teh floor

that means nobody has gone in so it's a direction they should take

[vagrant python]

It's mostly due to this occurring more often than not

[arctic sonnet]

honestly

[vagrant python]

This'll probably improve with time

[arctic sonnet]

lockpickers should weigh 8 pounds tops

change my mind.

[vagrant python]

I changed it to 0

[arctic sonnet]

lol

[vagrant python]

Why the hell is the extension ladder 0

But the lock picker 16?

[arctic sonnet]

cause uh...

um

[vagrant python]

That's a WHOLE ASS LADDER

[arctic sonnet]

Yeah and they're

obviously light as a feather

carbon-nanotubes

ahem

[vagrant python]

I've done a lot of weight tweaking to make things more realistic in some cases

Like tactical helmet is like 6 lbs

[arctic sonnet]

(I've held a few shovels in my life... are they actually bloody 16 pounds?)

they don't feel 16 damn pounds

[vagrant python]

I know it's for the sake of balancing what you take but I'm long past the shitty mechanic of dragging ass

Lmao
So glad it got changed to 8

[arctic sonnet]

8 sounds more like it

10-ish

[vagrant python]

Yeah

I've disabled the jetpack from being buyable

That thing is not only buggy as fuck but just a waste of money in the hands of 99% players

I've seen some people use it very well but too much of a eye candy item

[arctic sonnet]

👀

[vagrant python]

:omegakek:

[arctic sonnet]

excuse me

why is our fucking shovel made of vibranium

[vagrant python]

Fr

[vagrant python]

Here is a heavy duty long handled shovel

[arctic sonnet]

Bro

These shovels

are made to be wielded by gods

[vagrant python]

I own one of these
It doesn't feel like 4 pounds
It does feel like a feather

[arctic sonnet]

like

hold up..

[vagrant python]

This is the 8lb one

92$ for a shovel, gawdamn

[lost python]

Shovel discussion 👀

[vagrant python]

I've adjusted shovel prices to 20 over 30 for convenience of not messing with starting money

But then potatoe added the tactical helmet

Insert uh

Flower duet by Delibes

[arctic sonnet]

I'm trying

to figure out the fucking weight of a yield sign

and apparently that's hard.

I CAN GET ALL OF THIS DATA

but not the weight

[vagrant python]

Dude the yield sign is probably so high to make you YIELD

Get it

Cause it's a yield sign

[lost python]

They are hiding the true weight of the yield sign

[arctic sonnet]

I can get the god damn minimum and maximum temperature the sign can withstand - but not the weight

[lost python]

They dont want you to know

[eternal mauve]

i thought wed never reach the day when lethal company prices are actually better than real life

[arctic sonnet]

lol

i mean

extensions are just 60

a mechanical, extendable, ladder

for 60

that's a solid deal

[lost python]

Not to mention it doesn't care about you standing over it on an x-axis

[arctic sonnet]

apparently enough strength to withstand an employee carrying like 300 lbs of stuff

[lost python]

It is solid enough as a platform plank

[arctic sonnet]

lol

[lost python]

Like wtf

[arctic sonnet]

It weighs 0

[lost python]

It can also kill you and dogs

[arctic sonnet]

but has god damn neutron star weight activators

in the box

[lost python]

???

[arctic sonnet]

honestly - godliest purchase

that ladder

yes there's a "Zap gun"

or a "jetpack"

things we have already irl basically

but do we have a godly ladder capable of handling 400+ pounds, even when just planked over a cliff - and can withstand it just having the box on a surface?

no tying down needed

no bolts/screws/fastenings

[lost python]

What is the heaviest vanilla scrap

[arctic sonnet]

uh...

cash register

and then gold bar

iirc

[lost python]

Damn

[arctic sonnet]

you can hold 3 gold bars

n 1 cash register

to be the heaviest possible I think

[meager cradle]

Prob either gold bar or cash register, you move at snail speed just picking 1 up

[arctic sonnet]

I mean when you think about it too

unfair money pharma

120 bucks for an inhalant drug like that?...

probably cheap a f

[vagrant python]

Zap gun is another item I've nerfed in price

[arctic sonnet]

and an automated lockpicking device, that can pick any door?... for <$20?

[vagrant python]

To 200$ but nobody ever uses it

[arctic sonnet]

It's never really that useful

[vagrant python]

Even when I buy it with spare money, nobody uses it

[arctic sonnet]

it's useful if like

[vagrant python]

:omegakek:

[arctic sonnet]

you need to kill a bracken

[vagrant python]

Same with stun grenades

[arctic sonnet]

or a dog

but that's about it

stun grenades have one extra use that makes them worth it

[vagrant python]

Strong arms has entered the chat:

That perk is :chefkiss:

[arctic sonnet]

the stun grenade is one thing I will usually buy

[vagrant python]

I buy it to have it but ain't nobody uses it around me

[arctic sonnet]

cause after you use it, its secondary use is invaluable sometimes - depending on the situation

[vagrant python]

But I can think of times it would probably help

I do use the flash on radar booster

Goated change

[arctic sonnet]

yus

radar booster, the unloved but should-be-loved child

useful a f

[vagrant python]

Yes

[arctic sonnet]

you're immune to giants having one out in your hands open

[vagrant python]

I'm always teaching people about it

And the radar booster mod, allowing the remote to work on it

:chefkiss:

[arctic sonnet]

I was tempted to put the remote

but I'm afraid of its interaction with like malware broadcaster

[vagrant python]

Wdym

[arctic sonnet]

i don't want someone with teh ability to explode them indoors that easily with the press of a button

the hacking tool is fine cause it takes time to do the job of someone at the ship

but if the remote can detonate them

it's a tad too powerful

[vagrant python]

Oh you talking about the mod that let's you use the remote on things

[arctic sonnet]

did u not...

[arctic sonnet]

say that here? . ,.

doesn't that mod allow the remote to affect turrets, mines, doors, etc

[vagrant python]

Afaik that mod doesn't allow that

Uh only flash radar booster to my knowledge

[arctic sonnet]

if it's the same mod I seen - it does do that o- o

lets ye do anything the ship can do

[eternal mauve]

i have officially sent my first bug report!

yay

[vagrant python]

Can you drop a link?

[arctic sonnet]

sure o-o

let me fetch it-

[vagrant python]

Brb a sec while you do that

[arctic sonnet]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SZAKI/RemoteRemastered/

[vagrant python]

Oh yeah, someone sent me this

I like this idea because then I don't have to worry about when I have a shitty ship person

Really gives the remote some purpose

I was thinking about this with the laser mod

Just to give them some ingenuity to get back at THE MAN!!!

[solid pivot]

meltdown mod applying value 2 times

[rich basin]

Hey Potatoe

how ya doing today

[hardy bronze]

So the multiplier is working on the first one and the second one overwrites the multiplied value?

LethalRadiation custom value for the apparatus also doesn't work with the AC's multiplier

[solid pivot]

Just so people dont report it

[vagrant python]

Just figured I'd mention it again, not sure what the cause is

Missile launcher causes dead dogs to rise and go into walking animation or standing - Still dead

[solid pivot]

Report it as github issue

Will forget it in about 1 minute

You only see your perspective with your issue

I am full time employed, I am a streamer and content creator and modder getting dozens of issue reports all day

Reporting it is the safest way for it to get fixed

The model replacement crowd is wild tho. They want me to cater my mod to their needs

Just deactivate all equipment items?

You clearly dont need them

With your fancy new player models

"I am using a mod which will make any skinned meshes not work, please make it so I can still use your skinned objects so they go over my big boobas"

[vagrant python]

This is hilarious
They need their grossly sized bodies for maximum immersion

[faint oxide]

If u want booba don't wear armor that's well known already in any game

[solid pivot]

Now they ask for me to disable the equipment renderers

[vagrant python]

It's just one of those silly things that is niche
insert someone coming in

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-ackchyually-actually-gif-11156171

[solid pivot]

They claim otherwise xD

[vagrant python]

I will put up a post on GH in a few hours
Issue is extremely easy to produce
Just always spooks me because I'm like, wait aren't you dead?

But I do love the utility of the Missile launcher - Since your informant on its utility, it has been a game changer

Especially for those pesky giants

[solid pivot]

" I think the function to disable render for client, will be requested quite often. "
"Ability to hide equipment shown on body with a toggle would be a highly requested feature. Big shame they won't do it."

[vagrant python]

Lmao

[pearl fox]

wait

[vagrant python]

Always the smallest communities with the loudest cries