[Deprecated] Advanced Company

[solid pivot]

and 39s while walking

[arctic sonnet]

wh...at?

[solid pivot]

having 200% stamina regen, would reduce the values by half

[barren rover]

Does starting health at 50%, and allowing players to be 50% more at, 100XP, 500XP, 700XP, for 200% total sound OP?

[solid pivot]

?

[arctic sonnet]

wait what- why are you stating standing still n walking?... what does that change?

[solid pivot]

the time it needs for stamina to recharge?

lol

you didnt knew?

🤣

[arctic sonnet]

stamina doesn't fucking recharge differently- what???

[solid pivot]

It does

if (!isWalking)
{
sprintMeter = Mathf.Clamp(sprintMeter + Time.deltaTime / (sprintTime + 4f) * num2, 0f, 1f);
}
else
{
sprintMeter = Mathf.Clamp(sprintMeter + Time.deltaTime / (sprintTime + 9f) * num2, 0f, 1f);
}

[arctic sonnet]

you're telling me if I stopped walking

the bar moves up faster

[solid pivot]

Yes

[arctic sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-guy-gif-24111092

[barren rover]

But does it offset the distance made if you just kept walking to make it worth it to stop?

[solid pivot]

At least thats how its coded

dunno if

[arctic sonnet]

probably not- but at the same time how the fuck have I not noticed that

[solid pivot]

isWalking is set tho

Game has a lot of dead variables

[barren rover]

Does the game just have its full source code available? Where do you find these snippets

[arctic sonnet]

damnit I need like... a mod to show me stamina numbers

[shell coyote]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/DtdBEJICFZQAAAAd/homelander-stare.gif

[arctic sonnet]

no way I could tell with this weird ass circle

[shell coyote]

Me thinking if it broke my modpack even more or made it better

[arctic sonnet]

I'd need to visibly see numbers to test that

[barren rover]

Something up with ur modpack bro cause i have had zero issues

[solid pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/peepogiggle-gif-4018305763991603335

its ACs fault as always

its written in the logs

by some expert

[shell coyote]

na na

I really hope its fixed

[solid pivot]

but yea, isWalking is set btw

if (!isFreeCamera && moveInputVector.sqrMagnitude >= 0.19f && (!inSpecialInteractAnimation || isClimbingLadder || inShockingMinigame))
            {
                isWalking = true;
                playerBodyAnimator.SetBool("Walking", value: true);
            }

[shell coyote]

if its not

I'm going homelander

[barren rover]

Did the giant extremely well organized code do it wrong?

Or did

sprint_value_multiplier.dll written in 5 lines that havent been changed in 2mo do it wrong?

🤔

[solid pivot]

So yes. Stamina reloads faster when standing still

            if (isFreeCamera || moveInputVector.sqrMagnitude <= 0.19f || (inSpecialInteractAnimation && !isClimbingLadder && !inShockingMinigame))
            {
                isWalking = false;

[barren rover]

It probably isnt because you never found out what the conflict was, nor submitted any complete logs

Its like asking a doctor to diagnose you but not allowing him to take your vitals

[solid pivot]

He could diagnose the conflicting mod

But dont want to do the work I guess

I should just sit here for hours and take wild guesses

unpaid

Instead I could wait for somebody reporting it the correct way

and fix the bug within 2 minutes

I take the latter

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-frog-laughing-chuckle-giggle-gif-17775874

[barren rover]

Does the stamina drain multiplier get better with increase or decrease?

[arctic sonnet]

So "moveinputvector" - it's checking movement rate?

[solid pivot]

input

vertical and horizontal axis

[arctic sonnet]

I'm assuming, "if under 0.19 units of axis change"?

what is the 0.19f

[solid pivot]

squared

its pythagorean theorem but without taking the square root of the result

To save performance

[arctic sonnet]

f? . ,.

f = pythagorean? o ,o

[barren rover]

You get the magnitude of the vector by using pythagorean thoerem on its values

[solid pivot]

a² = b² + c²

[barren rover]

i.e. the speed

[solid pivot]

but with 3 axis basically

a² = b² + c² + d²

[barren rover]

sqrt(x^2+y^2+x^2) = speed of current vector

[arctic sonnet]

so... that whole left is checking to see if all 3 axis' are in total moving <0.19f

[solid pivot]

but without the sqrt part :D

[arctic sonnet]

in which case, you're marked as "iswalking = false"

[solid pivot]

sqrmagnitude dont add the square root

x = 1f is holding right

x = -1f is holding left

[arctic sonnet]

but then - nutcrackers can detect you looking around as "movement" - assuming it shifts you in an axis just for looking around

so does it mark you as "iswalking" if you're just turning around?

[solid pivot]

no

nutcrackers check it differently

[barren rover]

If youre only rotating a vector along some axis its magnitude doesnt change

[dreamy temple]

LLL related price issues should hopefully be fixed next LLL update @solid pivot 👍

[arctic sonnet]

so that is just checking where you are as a whole, and if you're shifting around due to something...

[solid pivot]

    localPlayerTurnDistance += StartOfRound.Instance.playerLookMagnitudeThisFrame;
    if (localPlayerTurnDistance > 0.1f && Vector3.Distance(GameNetworkManager.Instance.localPlayerController.transform.position, base.transform.position) < 10f)
    {
        return true;
    }
    if (GameNetworkManager.Instance.localPlayerController.performingEmote)
    {
        return true;
    }
    if (Time.realtimeSinceStartup - StartOfRound.Instance.timeAtMakingLastPersonalMovement < 0.25f)
    {
        return true;
    }
    if (GameNetworkManager.Instance.localPlayerController.timeSincePlayerMoving < 0.02f)
    {
        return true;
    }
    return false;

[arctic sonnet]

so technically

if I'm sitting still but somebody is nudging me

[solid pivot]

Nice @dreamy temple

[arctic sonnet]

would it say that I'm walking?

[solid pivot]

Its not the vector of your movement

[barren rover]

its checking if the magnitude of the vector your looking in is abritrarily closed to 0

[solid pivot]

its an input vector

like an analog stick

[arctic sonnet]

oh

it's not checking position, it's just checking input...

i thought it was checking where you were to where you are over and over 😅

[solid pivot]

Game is using virtual axis for keyboard input

Holding left will decrease the x part of the vector to -1f

Like I said

[arctic sonnet]

so technically - if you were to be able to use a controller and nudge it super slightly - you'd still count as iswalking = false?

[dreamy temple]

My route price on the terminal was grabbed once on a process i do because I didn’t expect them to change, been refactoring my codebase to clean stuff up abit, the level routeprice is now a getter from the relevant node now on my end so will refresh accordingly

[solid pivot]

its basically: If you dont input anything you reload stamina faster

I dont change the value tho 🤷‍♂️

AC doesnt change any values regarding its config besides my own items

[arctic sonnet]

I need someone to tell me a mod that gives stamina numbers

[solid pivot]

I patch other mods and decorate ldflds :P

[arctic sonnet]

I have to see this damn stamina regen o- o

[barren rover]

depnds on if the same logic is used to decide where the deadzone on the joystick is

[eternal mauve]

uh elads hud isnt my favorite but it works

[solid pivot]

I convert certain ldflds to call

[barren rover]

Eladshud rocks

[dreamy temple]

well whatever you were changing should be synced correctly up now on my end 👍

[solid pivot]

Nice :)

[dreamy temple]

(Twas very much a me issue)

[barren rover]

Price fix?

[swift merlin]

Yes, it's finally here XD The update took a while to arrive 💖

[barren rover]

idk why r2 takes so long to get them

[solid pivot]

Finally being able to set stamina regen to 20000%

[wide zealot]

TMM is just as bad

[solid pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/flash-lampo-speed-gif-18173027

[barren rover]

Does TMM have the crazy lag when you have more than like 60 mods

i.e. click a button, wait 20 seconds

[wide zealot]

Idk

[solid pivot]

but pot pot tired

pot pot sleep

https://tenor.com/view/bedge-pepe-sleep-gif-24023312

[wide zealot]

TMM was pretty laggy when I tried it because of the ads tbh

I've heard it doesn't have the issue where the mod manager freezes sometimes when trying to reorganize mods in the list though

[barren rover]

I just want to not have to wait like 40 seconds after pressing "export to code"

You scroll too fast on the mod list and it gives up displaying them and just shows a blank white table

Gonna make my own mod manager at this rate 😭

[solid pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-shia-la-beouf-flame-gif-4445204

[wide zealot]

Kyxino is working on making a custom mod manager

called Lethal Mod Manager

[barren rover]

I wouldn’t make it only for Lethal Company

[wide zealot]

You could try the Thunderstore Mod Manager and see if it gives you less problems

[barren rover]

I just don’t get why r2 does it, it’s like it’s iterating over the entire mod list every cycle

[wide zealot]

I still dunno why the get app button disappeared on the Thunderstore for me

XD

[vagrant python]

So I tried searching, couldn't find an answer, what's the easiest way to get the cosmetics from Morecompany into AC without MC

[barren rover]

I’ll call it advanced mod manager

😭

[arctic sonnet]

lol

AC - AC2

Advanced Compiler

Why is it called R2?...

[wide zealot]

Cus it was originally created for Risk of Rain 2 I'm pretty sure

[hearty frost]

Remove Dependancy from the cosmetic packs within the "mod.yml" file.

Do it whilst modmanager is off. After done, turn back on and delete morecompany then launch.

[barren rover]

Does this keep any future added cosmetic mods from reinstalling it?

[vagrant python]

Gotcha
But don't you need to let the cosmetics take 50 years when caching?

Or is that just specific ones

I tried it once, didn't like that because I figured it'd scare off the tech iliterate

[wide zealot]

They don't cache anymore with AC

[barren rover]

That was gone after the stub was added

[vagrant python]

Gotcha

[wide zealot]

since Potatoe added the stub dll

Which has also improved game performance when using cosmetics

[barren rover]

Why does thunderstore mod manager have to be on Overwolf :((

[hearty frost]

The dependancy just gets added back in when you update but doesn't install MoreCompany

[vagrant python]

Final question would be, does anyone have any recommended cosmetic packs?

[hearty frost]

Gridians and MegaPack (FNAF)

[hardy oxide]

@solid pivot actually come to think of it, you should be aware of this too. I'm not smart enough to know which mod should try to account for the other when a compatibility issue is found so I guess both authors should be notified; I found a compatibility issue with mama llama's lethal company enhancer mod relating to how scrap is removed after a squad wipe if that mod's scrap setting is set to SAVE_COINFLIP in its config file. Causes a hang-up softlock upon squad wipe and nobody ever respawns. Setting it back to its default of SAVE_NONE meaning it won't attempt to save any scrap removes the issue and AC takes priority with its ship perk functionality like normal
#1173632636120473712 message

so maybe just pop this little niche nugget into the compatability page for AC so others know, since it's easy to avoid

[solid pivot]

Dont see the problem tbh

Deactivate COINFLIP

and set base value in AC

and deactivate perk

Base values are always applied

[hardy oxide]

no I mean, I understand how to avoid it and what causes it

just saying, in case others run into this issue

[solid pivot]

Yea, will add it to compability list with a hint

[hardy oxide]

ok ty

[solid pivot]

Can you write a ticket on github for it? There is a compability bug ticket preset

I am in bed rn :D

See pinned messages

[hardy oxide]

aw jeez oh boy, I use github so rarely, alright lemme go rummage around and figure out how to do that lol

[solid pivot]

thx :) Just so I dont forget it

[vagrant python]

Just use R2Modman

[barren rover]

yea i am, thought maybe the other wouldve been a little faster, but not worth downloading OverWolf for

lol

[vagrant python]

Where is this mod.yml file?

[hearty frost]

In the profile folder of your modpack

[vagrant python]

oh, is it the .json?

I see

Thank

[grizzled root]

how to buy Helmet Lamp and Rocket Boots Without Personal Terminal. because if typing Rocket / Rocket Boots get Purchase Rocket Launcher ( LethalThings ) or Boombox ( if typing Boots ) and if Typing Helmet / Helmet Lamp and this is happend

[fiery glen]

rocketboots no spaces

works

for me

[grizzled root]

ahh i see

same like helmetlamp

tqtq

[barren rover]

Stamina regen perk starts at 50%, 50% more each upgrade, first is 70, next is 700

😭

[barren rover]

Why wouldnt you want to use personal terminal tho 🤔

[grizzled root]

just testing normal Terminal

[hearty frost]

Imma make a channel called BM

Breaking Mods >:D

Using Porta-Terminal literally dodges item conflicts when buying ._.

[barren rover]

mostest evil perk layout

[vagrant python]

So I take it this issue is still a mystery?

[hearty frost]

Fun fact you can switch cams whilst on Porta Terminal 😄

[hearty frost]

Centipedes often cause this issue when they get stuck 😛

[vagrant python]

I got a mod that kills them when it happens

I also forgot you can just disable errors in bepinex config - Fixing the issue with a blanket

🤓

[hearty frost]

Hiding the error doesn't fix the problem :S Also Centipede is broken I thought?

[pearl badge]

Anyone else have the issue where custom moons don’t work

[solar girder]

btw did anyone know someone made a new mod to fix quotaRollover problem where if u go above the quota it gives u more perks exp anytime u land and not needing to go to the company

AlternativeQuotaRollover fixes that issue

so u wont have a crew farming free exp by doing nothing

until u go to the company again

[analog plover]

is there a way to turn off the inventory rework?

[solar girder]

i dont think so

maybe

[hearty frost]

Disable inventory perk.

[analog plover]

already fixed that issue, just wondering if i can disable hotkeys for switching items

[hearty frost]

Don't know if 100% enables compatibility but yeah, the only way I think unless you disable perks altogether?

[solar girder]

question does that also remove the extra side slots?

that are greyed out btw

[hearty frost]

For those you'll need to disable any item that use those slots

[barren rover]

What does calculate polygon path do

Why do people keep complaining about it

[hearty frost]

Rocket Boots/Flippers (Items) Light Shoes (scrap)

[hearty frost]

Ai issue like centipedes getting stuck

Tactical Helmet (item) Bunny Ears (scrap) head

Bullet Proof Vest (item) Chest

[shell coyote]

goddamn Potato

real good job

[barren rover]

R2modman on its way to disable all my mods for no reason and be so slow that the "enable all mods" button no longer functions

[wide zealot]

Have you tried going in debugging and clearing cache?

it usually speeds it up

[barren rover]

I have cache disabled

[barren rover]

Yea i did that

[analog plover]

how do i scroll to the very top of this discord forum

[vagrant python]

That is correct but if you can't fix the error because it's unknown, why bog down your FPS if you're not debugging anyways

I know it's a slippery slope

[barren rover]

What are you hoping to find?

[vagrant python]

Also, for centipede, there's a mod that kills it if it begins to cause issues

[analog plover]

just the first post with the description of the mod (i dont feel like opening my browser to look)

[vagrant python]

Should be like, centipedefix or sum

[vagrant python]

Goodluck
Discord made threads without much thought

[brazen quail]

Pinned messages

[analog plover]

alr thanks

[barren rover]

#1186884307332108339 message

[brazen quail]

Also last I used that mod it ended up just killing every Snare Flea. Maybe I got unlucky and they all got stuck

[hearty frost]

Just disable console and logging to disk 😉

[wide zealot]

I never use Bepin logging during normal play

cus the game likes to crash sometimes if you leave it on

lol

[hearty frost]

I think that's if you pause the console by accidentally clicking on it, as it pauses logging = pauses/freezes game 😛

But yeah when actually doing a playthrough just turn the console off 😛

[wide zealot]

I had it open once just trying to get an error on stream and the game froze lol

[hearty frost]

Console 69 - User 0

xD

[wide zealot]

cus I kept having an issue where the day wouldn't progress past day 1

which ended up being a LethalUtils bug

[barren rover]

Ok so the 200 suits isnt contributing to ram usage by a negligable amount

removing the .dll files for both tv-loader and x253-moresuits does almost nothing to ram usage

Atleast tv-loader is safe, something is still loading in suits somehow

toomanysuits ig

[hearty frost]

Might be the page system in toomanysuits 😛

Take it out and have like 50 suits extended on one rack, see if it brings it down

[wide zealot]

TooManySuits is scuffed and I love it

you can change rack pages while dead

[hearty frost]

I dunno if 200 suits will fit in the ship xD

[wide zealot]

and it's funny

[barren rover]

Rack pages is only client-side

Ok so somehow these mods are running wihtout DLLs

i think r2modman is somehow hijacking the steam play button 😭

[hearty frost]

Does the cache store anything that it could still run off or that purely for downloads?

[barren rover]

Not sure, should be irrelevant, the mods are directly in my Lethal Company dir

No launch options set

how the hell is it loading them 😭

[brazen quail]

Are you loading into a save that you created with toomanysuits?

[barren rover]

Would that mater if the dll file is gone?

[brazen quail]

Depends on how the info is saved ig, I don't know. If the suits are loaded onto the savefile, then the game might still dedicate them to memory and just have it be useless

[barren rover]

The rack scrolling still functions though which is why im so confused by it

[pearl badge]

should i put this in bug reports?

[barren rover]

no its a problem with ur installation

[hearty frost]

I mean if you got suitsaver or something is that even possible maybe? Bit of a stretch tho

[barren rover]

suit savers gone now

but how is more_suits still around

[pearl badge]

meaning?

[barren rover]

Does LEC also import suits or something?

[hearty frost]

Not that I know of 😛

[barren rover]

You have some mod incompatibility or some user error

[hearty frost]

Have you got any suit framework left installed that may of inherited them?

Unless some mods are directly affect the steam install? Which in'st even likely I guess? 😛 Imma test something with serperate LC install I think

[barren rover]

Oh i install them directly onto the steam directory

Deleting bepinex works

weird!

[brazen quail]

There's an extra file in the TooManySuits plugins folder called "suitselect"

[barren rover]

I got toomanysuits to go away, but extra suits still remain without x253 around

[hearty frost]

Oh you're installing directly into steam folder?

LC Steamworkshop when? xD

[barren rover]

2035

[hearty frost]

xD

Which suits are sticking around?

[barren rover]

all of them

somehow

[hearty frost]

In name of jesus ._.

they've become sentient

[barren rover]

bepinex must have some weird thing that lets it cache .dll files or something

Gonna try a fresh install without suit mods

[brazen quail]

In what sense are the suits "sticking around", are they on the suit rack?

[barren rover]

loosely "on" the suitrack, which should be impossible, because the .dll file with instruction to inject them into the game is gone

Doing the moresuits thing, floating and clipping through the front of the ship

[pearl badge]

weird the problem goes away when i uninstall the moons. Never had this problem before the update. if i looked through my log file could i find the incompatible mod?

[barren rover]

Maybe, but youd be better off just using trial and error

[pearl badge]

unfortunate

[barren rover]

disable half, does it persist? yes. its in the other half, disable half of that half, repeat

Something has to be injecting these suits

i deleted more_suits, i deleted too many suits

theyre still here

[brazen quail]

Where are the suit files?

[hearty frost]

@pearl badge You've joined the ranks you have xD

[barren rover]

Chillin in the plugins folder where they usually are

[pearl badge]

its cause im unitelligent

see

[barren rover]

😭

[hearty frost]

2nd intro error inbound

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[pearl badge]

its in my name lmao

[hearty frost]

I am concerned that the suits are becoming sentient tbh ._.

Or your Python knows no bounds xD

[pearl badge]

Imagine them walking off the stands

time for 5 hours of trial and error, see everyone on the other side

[barren rover]

[Info   :meow.ModelReplacementAPI] Plugin meow.ModelReplacementAPI is loaded!
[Info   :   BepInEx] Loading [More Suits 1.4.1]
[Info   :AdvancedCompany] Added MoreSuits, Version=1.4.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null to assemblies to scan.
[Info   :More Suits] Plugin More Suits is loaded!
[Info   :   BepInEx] Loading [ThiccCompanyModelReplacement 2.0.0]
[Info   :AdvancedCompany] Added ThiccCompany2.0, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null to assemblies to scan.
[Info   :meow.ModelReplacementAPI] Registering body replacement type ThiccCompany.Replacements.CatLightRedReplacement to suit name catlightred.```

HOW 😭

Advanced company is adding it 😭

[hearty frost]

Remove Model Replacement

[barren rover]

Thats crazy

[hearty frost]

And remove AC's caching

[pearl badge]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-yo-gif-26891796

Thicc company

?

[barren rover]

Where would it even be hiding this dll

[brazen quail]

How did you install the mods into your Steam folder? Did you download them individually or copy/paste the BepInEx folder from an existing profile on thunderstore/r2modman?

[pearl badge]

You know what? Don’t tell me

[barren rover]

batch file

[brazen quail]

Okay but where do the mods come from

[barren rover]

COPY "winhttp.dll" "%BASEPATH%"
COPY "doorstop_config.ini" "%BASEPATH%"
XCOPY "BepInEx" "%BASEPATH%\BepInEx" /E /I

The folder that the batch file is in

[brazen quail]

So it copies everything in the BepInEx folder over?

[barren rover]

yes, after deleting the previous bepinex folder

[brazen quail]

Ah okay so the original files no longer exist

[barren rover]

nope, its basically the same as completely redownloading on r2

I think advanced company just has a hidden feature to load custom suits

That was first run for the download, no opportunities for AC to cache stuff, files were gone before launch

Doesnt AC add like a potatoe suit or something? i swear i remember something like that?

[brazen quail]

I mean my only other thought is maybe the BepInEx chainloader is running the .dlls from the original profile.

[barren rover]

Impossible, doesnt have the filepath to any of the R2 stuff

Im pretty sure it just has a cheeky moresuits.dll to load the suit added by AC

[brazen quail]

The chainloader_typeloader.dat file in BepInEx/cache contains the filepaths to both the steam installation and the thunderstore installation on my end

[barren rover]

did u run it from R2MODMAN?

[brazen quail]

Thunderstore, I had a profile that I use and I copy/pasted the BepInEx folder to the steam installation to test LAN

[barren rover]

Thats why

[brazen quail]

Well yeah but you also copied the files so idk if your chainloader has the same thing

[barren rover]

The .dat file doesnt contain any instance of any other filepath

[brazen quail]

Alright was just a hunch

[barren rover]

Im gonna run it with just AC and some suits

[grizzled root]

I think this is mod (AC) get conflict MaskedEnemyOverhaul ( latest version )
Masked not showing Cosmestic. or only me?

[barren rover]

They dont yea

[pearl badge]

i found my silly problem. it was physics items

[barren rover]

just a vanity mod luckily

[brazen quail]

I'd expect that mod to be the core of all problems as long as its enabled tbh

[barren rover]

Seems very intensive

[wild silo]

cosmetics not showing on MEO masked? that's an issue that had been fixed before. was on MEO side iirc. they broke it again?

[eternal mauve]

Ok I updated to most recent version.... I still have an issue where whenever I fall short distances I take damage

[barren rover]

Suits shaved off 4gb

Ig moons or something ar ebeing loaded in ram

[eternal mauve]

? entirely loaded in ram?

[barren rover]

Ig

Ram usage dropped by 3gb without them

Does this game use 8gb of ram on its own? lmfao

no not even close

huh

[arctic sonnet]

Can we like

put in the FAQ

"Are your custom moons not syncing with friends? Are interiors screwed? Do people see different moons? This is not an AC problem - remove LE and use LEC"

At this point I swear we need to tell all maps stating that LE is a dependency to stating it's LEC instead

[barren rover]

I need to find what is eating so much ram!! what could it possibly be!!!!!

[arctic sonnet]

what's wrong?

.,.

[barren rover]

The suits are gone, the moons are gone, yet theres still 8gb of usage

[arctic sonnet]

8gb usage of what - memory, from lethal?

or storage?

This game shouldn't eat more than 5 or so tops .- .

if you're talkin RAM

[rigid swallow]

lol

[hearty frost]

Have you got any drivers or mods that are upscaling? or anything

[barren rover]

I dont think you can upscale the game, isnt it rendered at like 520p and then upscaled with the screen effects

[grizzled root]

if many mods ofc need many ram :)).
10-20 Mods Stable 40-60 fps ( for Low PC / Mid PC )
20-40+ Mods stable 30-50 ( Low PC / Mid Pc )
40-60+ Mods Stable but little Lag because Conflict / Not Compatible with another mod y like that

it also depends on what mod you use

[hearty frost]

Honestly low spec should be able to hit around 40-50 mods with ease as long as they're still supporting and functioning as intended

I messed with a 70 pack and it only ate like 3.5-4gb at most given times.

[hearty frost]

Have you changing any of your logging? like save to disk settings etc?

Maybe it's just Bepin doing it

[barren rover]

Ig it could just be the sheer volume of mods

[eternal mauve]

ok wait, sorry, I just got onboard with what youre talking about (I think :P). Are you testing out AC and trying to figure out why its using so much ram?

[barren rover]

100 ish mods

[barren rover]

Is it AC using ram? i havent tested it by itself

[arctic sonnet]

I got 70 mods, it eats like 4-5 gb . -.

lots o custom moons

[hearty frost]

Like I said the TVloaders alone will eat ram

If you still got them in

[barren rover]

TVLoader was uninstalled during testing, tbh it barely ate any

[grizzled root]

you have Skinwalker? because SkinWalkerExperiments using RAM for save the Audio

[barren rover]

didnt notice a change

[eternal mauve]

Ok yeah... Um, there's definitely a problem. Running the game with Advanced Company on reduces framerate drastically.

[barren rover]

8gb of audio is like hours and hours of audio

[eternal mauve]

Also I get a bug where my jumps are smaller/shorter

and i take fall damage from really small heights

[barren rover]

i dont have these problems

i actually couldnt find a ledge high enough at the company building to take fall damage, hat to jump off side onto catwalk

[eternal mauve]

can i see your modpack?

[eternal mauve]

At experimentation, jumping off the ship when almost landed deals damage to me :P

I have my fall damage (and fall height) perk set at 100% base and yet still have shorter jumps... im trying to look for the mods that are causing the issues, if its not AC

[barren rover]

Are u standing on the rails or something weird? it must count you as falling somewhere above before the ship reaches the ground

[arctic sonnet]

I do. But they reduced the ram consumption a lot

[eternal mauve]

No, its not just when jumping off the ship. All my jumps are shorter

[arctic sonnet]

they only save 200 audio tops

[eternal mauve]

theres that staircase room in the facility? jumping down to get down quicker deals damage to me

turning off AC fixes it, so its an incompatibility

[arctic sonnet]

what mods are screwin' with yer jump?

[barren rover]

They should voice to text the audio from players live, send it to chatgpt, get a prompt back, and use a voice replicator to mimic the gpt response 😭

[arctic sonnet]

i said this numerous times verbally about how skinwalkers should somehow incorporate voice mimicry - but that'd be way too advanced

[eternal mauve]

one moment

[arctic sonnet]

and also some people really hate the idea of their voices being recorded

[barren rover]

018d4309-f9f5-ceb3-78cd-02eaa02beedb

[arctic sonnet]

yet they'll go on phone calls for hours on end or some shit >~>

[hearty frost]

I mean savewalker does cache audio but it usually trades out oldest first

[arctic sonnet]

They changed that

the audio that gets replaced is completely random

[barren rover]

Ur voice is public 😭 Its like something mandatory to present when interacting with anyone ever

[arctic sonnet]

could be the newest, could be the oldest

[hearty frost]

ow did they?

[arctic sonnet]

Yeh

Which like

[hearty frost]

ah!

[arctic sonnet]

I wonder where people are getting issues from

I have probably the worst damn memory here

and it runs fine . ,.

3-4+ hour sessions

[hearty frost]

Since last few updates I've not had issues with Skinwalkers either since they reduced it back down

[arctic sonnet]

no leaks, no crashes, maybe we remake the lobby once to get people back in (even if AC has late joining, latecompany has scarred me)

[hearty frost]

I still can't believe people still downloading Latecompany tbh 😛

[barren rover]

The memory thing only concerns me slightly, ig anyone with 16gb is probably fine

with 8gb u have bigger problems nowadays 😭

Its stable at around 14gb

[arctic sonnet]

amdy

wtf did u do

are you launching this from r2modman, with everything updated

and do you have none of those 300-video tv/boombox mods

[barren rover]

not launching from r2modman

where does ram use clock in for u

[arctic sonnet]

5 gigs tops, maybe 6 when the session's long with a few quotas passed

o- o

[barren rover]

on my pack?

[arctic sonnet]

on my pack

-w-'

70 mods, smooth

[barren rover]

I thought you were saying this cause you ran my pack and it used less ram

[hearty frost]

No way

[arctic sonnet]

well seeing as your pack wants to eat like 12 gigs

[hearty frost]

I am going to test this now xD

[barren rover]

idk i guess if ur using 70 mods with 5 gb, 140mods with 10gb is proportional

[arctic sonnet]

wait but I already have gamblingmachine

what is this

[eternal mauve]

ok, here's my dependency list, minus LethalLevelLoader, LethalExpansionCore and some moons which don't enter the equation cause I'm not testing anything on them:

[hearty frost]

Slot Machine (Furniture)

[eternal mauve]

ohmygosh lol

sorry :P

[hearty frost]

Jesus

[eternal mauve]

I'll send that in a text file in a moment

[hearty frost]

Yeah send as txt ^^

So it's collapsed in discord

[arctic sonnet]

ok

I like that concept

Why not add 2 gambas

[hearty frost]

@arctic sonnet Imma run this stuff now giving meself unlimited credits and hitting this machine xD

[eternal mauve]

Looking through this, the only mods that (I think) could possibly mess with jumps are LateGameUpgrades and GeneralImprovements

[arctic sonnet]

bloody general improvements..

this wouldn't be the first time I heard that mod 'n issues lol

"Gemumoddo-BadAssCompany-1.1.4" what

[eternal mauve]

its an emotes mod, and its actually crazy good

has no affiliation with MoreCompany/lobby mods

Its filled with copyrighted music tho hehe :P

[barren rover]

Im using generalimprovements rn without any issues

[eternal mauve]

with AC?

[barren rover]

yea

And abt 80 or so other active mods

[hearty frost]

There's no issue between GI and AC

[barren rover]

Fuck this ram thing, Not my problem if their computer bluescreens 😂

[eternal mauve]

Can you create a new save, edit the jump/fall damage CHANGE variables to be lower, and then let me know how that goes?

[barren rover]

Wait, youre making fall damage LOWER?

[eternal mauve]

no...? one moment

[barren rover]

u said change variables to be lower

do u make ur percetnage less than 100 or more than

[eternal mauve]

That might be what I did wrong :P but im not sure yet, one moment

[barren rover]

if its like the stamina drain vaues, lower = worse

[feral spruce]

uh so whenever i play solo advanced company makes it so that when i die i get stuck in the screen right after the death messages

[hearty frost]

Softlock caused by some other mod

[feral spruce]

i disabled every other mod other than adv and the issue still persisted

then i turned off adv and the issue was fixed

[hearty frost]

Clear cache, revert to default and you'll find AC isn't the issue 😛

Also make sure you haven't altered your Bepin to hide GameObject

[eternal mauve]

ok, these are my perks. I actually DID NOT do that. The only base change i made was on sprint stamina

...

[eternal mauve]

The issue persists with this loadout.

[hearty frost]

You also changed Inventory

and all increments have basically been changed

[barren rover]

Base is the same doesn’t matter

[eternal mauve]

exactly.

[barren rover]

Disable half, check for glitch, do it over and over again until u narrow down to one mod

[eternal mauve]

will do 👍

[unborn bough]

Does this mod's in-game configuration also allow the customization of moons added by mods?

so say for example I wanted to adjust enemy spawn rates on maps like Orion, Infernis, Acidir

[hearty frost]

This mod can manage moons, yes.

[brazen quail]

You need to run the game (or make a save I don't remember which) at least once for them to show up on the config if I recall correctly

[unborn bough]

ye I figured, was just wondering it could configure modded moons is all

currently in the process of building a modpack around AC

and hadn't gotten to modded moons yet, getting all the essentials going first

[barren rover]

Can manage moons like no other

[vagrant python]

Not sure of the cause, but it seems some players are reporting their perks resetting

But it seems that sometimes their perks also come back later randomly

[hearty frost]

If they playing a modpack that has a profile progression saved then switch back I think this causes that. Especially when hidegameobject was active

[barren rover]

I can barely export as code 😭

Its a good day to use batch files instead of r2 🙏

[vagrant python]

It seems to happen mid run

Not between jumping lobbies

It hasn't happened to me, but it happens to random people in my lobby at random intervals

[eternal mauve]

Do you guys think its normal for AC to make the game have a harder time running while in game?

It is a big mod

But im not sure on how big of an effect it has on the default game.

[hearty frost]

when it happens type "debug" into the porta-terminal, all of you and post here or something for potatoe to see

Actually loaded in to test now xD

Time to gamble the company away

100 max bids???? MORE MORE

[vagrant pebble]

there's a config option to switch to DMCA safe stuff and/or mute audio fyi, incase that's ever been an issue

[eternal mauve]

never been an issue for me, but thats the only downside i could think of for the mod :)

[barren rover]

modpackflation

[wide zealot]

outrunning a coil head with the mario shoes is some of the msot fun I've had XD

[hearty frost]

I might have some good news, gonna confirm in a moment xD

Sad no good news

Hell Weather is fixed BUT still doesn't stack multipliers 😛

[barren rover]

Do you develop mods? how do you know all of this

[eternal mauve]

whom are you adressing? aeniema?

[barren rover]

yea..

[eternal mauve]

I thought YOU developed mods :P

[barren rover]

haha no not yet

[hearty frost]

Ow no I don't make mods, I never have the patience for it :S

I can easily get lost in geometry though for some reason (level editing)

[barren rover]

True, Imagine all the people blaming ur mod for incompatibility with no reason 😭

[hearty frost]

Yeah why I don't do it, I'd lose my shit too soon 😛 I am easy to fire away from the get go xD

I read and understand some stuff but it all becomes to repeitive for me and just end up losing interest although it is really interesting stuff, especially when working with certain stuff - I couldn't ever see my self doing Unity stuff though ngl 😛

[eternal mauve]

Anyone know what AdvancedCompany is actually doing when you close the game?

I noticed that with the recent update there's more stuffs going on before game closure, which is new and probably makes forcequitting the game early dangerous, no

[hearty frost]

You can see what it's doing in saved log if you have bepin saving to disk :3

I dunno if info's is saved to disk though by default so if not just add it in and you can see then. Fatal,Errors & Warnings deffo save by default though

Ow ignore me

it's all saved to disk by default

[eternal mauve]

Hehe, mods that disable logs probably don't help with that right? :PP

(saving)

I'll reenable logs and check it out

[snow pendant]

Does anybody have any good cosmetics for advanced company? I ditched just more company cosmetics

[barren rover]

They are interchangeable

[hearty frost]

They all use MoreCompany as dependency so when installing you have to remove MC as dependency, you can use any cosmetic except for feet.

You can ignore dependency with R2 or if using ThunderStore you can edit mods.yml and remove the dependency that way to remove MoreCompany before Launch.

Cosmetics will automatically get loaded in regardless of doing this though.

[tawny tulip]

what use do the light shoes have after being creased?

[hearty frost]

Cursed Items have very high sale value.

You can also change this yourself too if you want.

I never take em back to ship though, I love the RGB too much

[tawny tulip]

what happens to them

what caused them to stop working?

[tawny tulip]

i just have more company and ac both

[vast comet]

thought of asking it here, since I think this is the main mod causing me issues rn

opening the portable terminal while doing a more_emote's emote causes it to open in this weird way

I have seen playermodels getting weird too sometimes but they soon get back to normal

is there a way to fix the terminal screen?

[hearty frost]

They run out when you get back to ship with them. They pull all enemies in map. That's their intended design 😛

Also shoes really good for carrying heavy weight

300 lbs become no issue with light shoes

[tawny tulip]

wait wym pull enemies?

[hearty frost]

The music attracts eneimes in whole map, if you're inside they will all come after you. If you're outside, they will come after you.

[hearty frost]

Don't use More_Emotes 😛

[tawny tulip]

wait it makes them come outside

[hearty frost]

No I mean if you outside, all outside will come after you. If inside, all inside come after you

[tawny tulip]

even manticoil?

LOL

[barren rover]

I use too many emotes

[vast comet]

not very helpful 👎 but ill take it

[hearty frost]

Ow no not Manticoil, they're not an enemy 😛

[hearty frost]

This is actually helpful information fyi.

Even though potatoe did what ever they could for compatibility, it's still using custom animators and they can conflict.

TooManyEmotes can even cause issues even though best compatibility. You might end up with the stanky arm or leg.

If manticoil attacked that would be beautiful xD

[barren rover]

Im ngl TooManyEmotes just looks like the better version of More_Emotes

[hearty frost]

Nah More_emotes got the twerk and signboard :< I'd love toomanyemotes if it had first person config 😛

[vast comet]

I like the simplicity of more_emotes more

[hearty frost]

but that would ruin it's compatibility tbh

[barren rover]

I like too_many_emotes,Theyre all just ripped from fortnite lmfao

[vast comet]

signboard actually the funniest shit

[grizzled root]

quit and rejoin ( if you host accept your fate )

[vast comet]

got you

[hearty frost]

signboard actually lethal asf, you can break a host with it xD

[barren rover]

get signboarded and erase your entire harddrive

[vast comet]

I found a way to bypass the weird screen coming up by opening it with other emotes lol

[vast comet]

how so?

[hearty frost]

Yeah if you emote again after, it usually fixes animations.

[grizzled root]

i get same like u but not from Emotes. from Lag then open Personal Terminal

[hearty frost]

Kill host/lobby. Freeze Host in place, stopping them from moving if you do a certain thing at a certain time in a certain manner.

Unless it's fixed now 😛

[vast comet]

never saw that and me and my friends usually use it a lot

very funny indeed

[fair turret]

Can someone help me to understand why after dyeing the value of scrap become so high? I need to change something on the settings?

[fiery relic]

Hello, @fair turret, we have a dedicated support channel and forum here: #help-and-troubleshooting #1185732310700654732
Anyone responding is a volunteer so be patient.

[grizzled root]

bruh the bot xd

[barren rover]

wdym after dying

[hearty frost]

Tedious frame perfect actions can almost break most things in most games if not patched 😛

[grizzled root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1030278820403630191.gif?size=48&name=lmaozoom&quality=lossless

[hearty frost]

Bro hit that jackpot

[grizzled root]

remove Strange Objects. that mods broken always change value if you drop take drop take

[hearty frost]

@fair turret I hope you not using LGU perks with AC perks xD

[barren rover]

Thats one of the strange items lol

it changes value on drop

[vast comet]

yo thats actually something i wanna hear about

[hearty frost]

They don't stack, they conflict/break.

[fair turret]

I'll do it

[hearty frost]

Same as if you were to use LethalThings utility belt alongside inventory from AC.

[grizzled root]

y i know but Curse Of Midas is broken all Strange Objects

and if you quit then load game. all Scraps items change value

[vast comet]

cause in my lobbies i really wish to spice things up with the new mod content but still want to make it fair and vanilla-ish

[barren rover]

? all midas scrap or all scrap in general

[fair turret]

Maybe it's that i'll check thanks

[vast comet]

wich perk system is more balanced? in your opinion

AC is obvs the cooler one

[hearty frost]

AC is the only maintained perk system for LC. LC is highly customisable too.

[vast comet]

but whats better 👀

[hearty frost]

Get rid of Strange Objects too xD

[fair turret]

Ok

[barren rover]

Bunch of strange items haters in here

[grizzled root]

I mean like. If you have Curse Of Midas the Scrap and Drop on ship, then Saving game > Load game. all scraps on ship bugs and always change value

[fair turret]

Thanks

[hearty frost]

I wanna be able to see xD

[barren rover]

ive never had that happen, odd

[grizzled root]

and my Lamp become 0 Value bruh

[fair turret]

It happened also to me

[vast comet]

okay last one I swear, sometimes me and my friends got a really weird fov, either hands too down, or we can see our own cosmetics in the middle of the screen, or when we use the terminal's monitor is wayy to far

I am suspicious about it being some bug with the portable terminal again but I couldnt recreate it to show it here

anyone got anything similar? and if so could you fix it while in-game?

[hearty frost]

Are you using any FOV/Res mods? That are not FOV_Adjust and HDLethal?

And also What Emotes you using if any?

[vast comet]

nothing

I can send you the thunderstore's profile code if you want to check it by yourself

[vast comet]

only vanilla and more_emotes

[eternal mauve]

more emotes is incompatible with most other emote mods... try BadassCompany, I'm loving it so far

like actually though

[vast comet]

I usually twerk a lot 😳

[eternal mauve]

its so nice :P

[vast comet]

the thing is i use only more_emotes

[hearty frost]

Any third person cam mods? or anything?

[eternal mauve]

ik!!! I felt the same way dropping more emotes cause i loved the signs and everything

[vast comet]

nothing

[hearty frost]

Only thing I can suggest is try without more_emotes 😛

[eternal mauve]

Its also incompatible with AdvancedCompany. Trust me though AdvancedCompany + BadassCompany is well worth the switch from MoreEmotes

[vast comet]

I am being more cautious about using the terminal while emoting

[eternal mauve]

MoreEmotes was designed without compatibility in mind

[vast comet]

but still a mildly frustrating thing

it doesnt stop me from playing

just make it harder to read the things on terminal

[vast comet]

I will check badasscompany

[eternal mauve]

unfortunately i believe opening terminal while emoting is not the only time it breaks it

[hearty frost]

Try using DesktopTerminal instead as that fixes the camera to the screen (Out of curosity try it)

It also adds mechanic to terminal with new design

[eternal mauve]

you mean it fixes camera to the original terminal right? I dont think that mod works with custom terminal

its completely different design :/

Trying is not bad idea tho

[vast comet]

you mean terminaldesktop?

[hearty frost]

They dropped an update earlier and updated the camera to a fixed position

[hearty frost]

That's the one

[vast comet]

will see it now

better changing the whole computer than givin up on my signboard

[eternal mauve]

oh damn thats AWESOME

I LOVE that mods concept

need to try that out now

[hearty frost]

Yeah no more weird neck turning xD

[hearty frost]

That's the plan! 🙂

OpenBodyCams also did update and fixed the door camera to not show the body camera too 😉

[eternal mauve]

ok wait so are we talking about the og terminal or mini terminal??

[eternal mauve]

YASSS

[hearty frost]

It's OG terminal with new UI and Mechanics

[eternal mauve]

i mean what issue are we trying to solve! the one with og terminal or the smol one from here

I didnt know MoreEmotes breaks with og terminal

[vast comet]

i having trouble with the og terminal

[eternal mauve]

Ahhh

[hearty frost]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/wijes/TerminalDesktop/

[vast comet]

i dont think it is happening because of more emotes

but instead maybe a mix between more emotes and how the portable terminal works together

also, since I closed the game

is there a way to completely wipe out the LGU store from the terminal?

[hearty frost]

Yeah this is why it happens because both use custom animators and More_Emotes has no compatibility

[vast comet]

or even so I remove every perk the store will still appear as blank

[hearty frost]

Remove LGU perks

[eternal mauve]

im a lil confused, why not just remove the mod?

[vast comet]

I like the other things that they add

[eternal mauve]

For me, When I was using MoreEmotes + AC, my portable terminal would show up weird and not let me see the screen

[hearty frost]

Man wants their shoppy trolley

[eternal mauve]

like?

(I feel.. oh LMAO)

was about to say i didnt know of anything else they use

[vast comet]

and theres also the contract system

[eternal mauve]

I believe it will appear blank. The perks aren't bad though imo, they can be quite cool

[vast comet]

wich is, I gotta say, pretty epic

[eternal mauve]

like the discomobulator

[hearty frost]

Yeah you can actually leave some of the perks in.

[eternal mauve]

I don't think you can disable the ENTIRE upgrades system but you can make some upgrades, like Malware Broadcaster and whatever, shared across the entire team

[hearty frost]

Just remove the stuff that affect player state when using AC

[eternal mauve]

O?

[hearty frost]

Also Revive kinda handy sometimes

[vast comet]

inters is bad 👎

[hearty frost]

xD

[vast comet]

gotta hug that team wipe from time to time

[hearty frost]

Not if you wanna revive and kill your teammate again >:D

[eternal mauve]

you mean the speed/jump/stamina stuff? I didnt think those were incompatible with AC

Pretty sure they stack, but I can check later

[vast comet]

as I said, I like my mod content to be as fair as it can be, while still making things hard

[hearty frost]

To my knowledge they affect player.state

[vast comet]

reviving is gross 🤮

[hearty frost]

Unless compatible now and stack?

[vast comet]

still don't want to see my friends zooming sonic speed

[hearty frost]

I know LGU have done updates 😛

haven't checked since

[eternal mauve]

asking potatoe when hes up to answer questions is probably the thing to do here

[vast comet]

the AC perks system is good beautiful enjoyable makes good use of exp

LGU kinda scuffed I didnt like it when I saw that the faster translator was just a message in chat

[eternal mauve]

i got that one disabled. I like the immersiveness of the original

[eternal mauve]

BUT! LGU lets you have things to buy with your money! Especially late game!!

[vast comet]

yeah that is what made me sob when seeing the updated form

[eternal mauve]

I use LGU because it can be really cool

Like

[vast comet]

yeasss thats why I like the idea of the contracts

and they seem well implemented

[eternal mauve]

having one player buy the Beekeeper upgrade, another buy the stamina one, and another buy... uh idk....

THE POINT

IS

[vast comet]

a really unique concept as far I can tell in the mod community

[eternal mauve]

you can sort of "class" your group into roles using your hard earned money

which i really really like

[eternal mauve]

yeah, btw u should know those contracts are honestly pretty difficult

they spawn super far away from the entrance

furthest point possible actually

[vast comet]

I was testing alone early in the morning

[eternal mauve]

(unless you disable that, in which case the contract object has a chance of spawning in a pit)

:P

[vast comet]

cheating some credits and trying to fullfil any of those

[eternal mauve]

WAIT NO

they fixed that

i think

[vast comet]

I tried to do it twice

the first one being the drive one

that I DONT KNOW but I think I have to do it with at least two people

anyway I got into the facility than died to a bunker spider my bad

the second time it gave me a rescue contract

and I found the guy yelling behind a locked door

I dont know if it is intentional but what it seems to me is that

having a chair dude is really important while doing any of the contracts

anyways... LGU is fun

but their perks kinda mid

[eternal mauve]

:(

I miss signs

California Girls emote definitely the correct choice though

although i want both

[grizzled root]

@solid pivot Conflict with MaskedEnemyOverhaul

[wide zealot]

https://clips.twitch.tv/UglySmokyMageBCWarrior-nztwuz_e6bagp3XI

Love how far it was behind me when I would turn around, it sounded way closer

[hearty frost]

That's not a conflict, it's just failing to find MoreCompany compatibility because MC isn't present.

[grizzled root]

what mean i have morecompany

[hearty frost]

You're using AC right?

[grizzled root]

ja

[hearty frost]

AC stops MC from waking/loading.

So therefore the compatibility isn't loaded.

There's no compatibility for MaskedOverhaul - AC, unless it's included in the dll Potatoe did but I don't know 😛

[wide zealot]

MEO has been compatible with AC since Potatoe told the dev how to make it compatible with it

MEO dev added 1 line of code that made it work

[hearty frost]

Ah fairenough, still stands with the error though - it's looking for MoreCompany.

Suprised they didn't make a switch in config between AC and MC 😛

[wide zealot]

Yeah I'm guessing they just have MoreCompany uninstalled

[hearty frost]

or jusr look for either.

just*

Error will still prompt even if you're not using cosmetics and/or have it disabled 😛

[hardy oxide]

I'm getting false sales for store items, some are even from a mod like lethalthings that are entirely disabled both by lethalthings config and by Advanced Company pre-game config menu. I'm also getting sales for items that aren't listed as on sale in the store but show as discounted price when attempting to buy. Seems to only apply to items in the store below the vanilla roster, as sales on legit items both show the sale and also apply its discount on item purchase screen. Is this a known issue to anybody?
Some sort of internal mismatch of store IDs that the sales code uses perhaps?

From screengrab, extension ladder does in fact charge 35 if I attempt to buy, but shotgun for example claims to be 420 of its 700 original price, yet on attempting to buy it, it demands 700 on the purchase screen instead.

[eternal mauve]

do you have any terminal mods?

[eternal mauve]

also does it ACTUALLY charge you 700?

like have you checked

[hardy oxide]

discount alert, terminal API, and terminal_clock are all I have

[hardy oxide]

technically no, I just noted that when attempting to buy something claiming to be on sale, the purchase screen either asks for more money, or flatout says I cannot afford the item because it is secretly full price

I doubt Lethal Company Enhancer allowing you to type into the terminal the moment you press E on it could be doing it either, but technically that is one other mod that touches the terminal

[eternal mauve]

so it ACTUALLY still costs more. hm.

[hardy oxide]

oh, also DetailedScan, but can't imagine that would touch store

[eternal mauve]

drop dependencies list here (in a text file)?

[hardy oxide]

dependencies for what? or do you mean my entire mod list?

[eternal mauve]

yep. theres a thing called a dependencies list that you can get from going to the settings of your mod manager

its one of the options

if you dont have too many mods you can try screenshotting!

[hardy oxide]

did that work?

oh great

only thing I could possibly guess is that discountalert is coded like garbage and needlessly, forcibly wrangles authority of how sales are triggered and for what items away from vanilla game and uses its own system overtop to decide a sale and then announce that sale, but that seems like a silly stretch for what the mod is meant to do

only funky behavior I can recall doing on my end is, I made a save on a 4th slot with LCBetterSaves, noticed some lethalthings store items were presented in the Advanced Company pre-game config menu items tab, disabled them there just to be sure Advanced Company wouldn't ignore lethalthings config and put them in the store anyway, then started up the save. Played a bit, uninstalled LCBetterSaves, booted up the game, noticed my save was gone because it was slot4, re-enabled LCBetterSaves, booted up game again, selected my save, but I noticed then that Advanced Company pre-game config items tab did NOT list the other store items anymore, despite using the same preset where I manually unchecked them.

Maybe somehow altering what store items were and weren't checked from beginning the save to continuing it confused the store into thinking there were more store items than was actually listed, thus confusing what sale goes on what item as a result?

[robust swallow]

I actually get a similar issue (not with items showing up in the store, but with the sales being incorrect). But I had the issue since before using AdvancedCompany. Not sure if yours is the same, but the sales only seem to be wrong for me as the host, connected players tend to see them properly

[trim lily]

hey, anyone using HexiBettershotgun? when testing in lan the client always get this error when joining

[stiff galleon]

If you have any issue please report to github.
Any report in here will be IGNORED.

[stiff galleon]

Here is the report step please follow it

[hearty frost]

👀

[bleak frigate]

thanks for posting dis

[wraith totem]

fwiw, this has no impact on performance

[wide zealot]

Weird I've noticed it makes r2 lag a bit less sometimes if I've just uninstalled a mod then clear it

[trim lily]

by doing what ? my R2 lag so much thats insane

[wide zealot]

I have no idea if TMM could perform better, maybe if you disable the ads somehow it might

[wraith totem]

Well that sounds like a performance improvement because you uninstalled a mod rather than cleaning the cache

[wide zealot]

most likely

[wraith totem]

The cache is never read from unless downloading mods

All clearing it does is remove mod versions that aren’t used on a profile

On other games it is also used to re-apply the mod state, so conflicting files are re-applied based on the order of the list

LC doesn’t need state management though

[wraith totem]

Also on this, the ads don’t really have a performance impact

[hearty frost]

👀

[barren rover]

Player joined w steamId: xx [Warning:AdvancedCompany] Client is missing AdvancedCompany! Connection approval callback! Game version of client request: 49,76561199365201152 Joining client id: 8; Local/host client id: 0 Approved connection?: True. Connected players #: 1 Disapproval reason: [Message:AdvancedCompany] OnClientDisconnect for 8 [Warning:AdvancedCompany] Wasn't able to remove client 8 Disconnect callback called Is server: True; ishost: True; isConnectedClient: True Disconnect callback called in gamenetworkmanager; disconnecting clientId: 8 A Player disconnected but they were not in clientplayerlist

hmm

[vagrant python]

I wonder if this is why some players stay around after leaving

[barren rover]

Client is missing AdvancedCompany!

NO!

[barren rover]

[Message:AdvancedCompany] Doing a handshake with the server. [Info :AdvancedCompany] Writing handshake data before joining... [Message:AdvancedCompany] Writing data for a total of 6 synchronizers. [Message:AdvancedCompany] Writing data for AdvCmpny.Lobby [Info :RugbugRedfern.SkinwalkerMod] Audio folder not present. Don't worry about it, it will be created automatically when you play with friends. (C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/common/Lethal Company/Lethal Company_Data\..\Dissonance_Diagnostics) [Message:AdvancedCompany] OnClientDisconnect for 0 Disconnect callback called Is server: False; ishost: False; isConnectedClient: False Local client connection denied; clientId: 0; reason: Displaying menu message Failed loading; displaying notification result: Error Displaying menu notification: An error occured! [Message:AdvancedCompany] Client stopped! [Message:AdvancedCompany] Removing message handlers.

weird

Might be persistent purchases

[eternal mauve]

does it work?

[stark berry]

Does this flashlightfix new update already in AC?

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ShaosilGaming/FlashlightFix/

[barren rover]

[Info   :PersistentPurchases] Beginning patching of GameNetworkManager.ResetSavedGameValues
[Info   :PersistentPurchases] Patched GameNetworkManager.ResetSavedGameValues
InvalidProgramException: Invalid IL code in (wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetworkManager:DMD<GameNetworkManager::ResetSavedGameValues> (GameNetworkManager): IL_023c: ret       

  at (wrapper managed-to-native) System.RuntimeMethodHandle.GetFunctionPointer(intptr)
  at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.GetFunctionPointer () [0x00000] in <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_0000 
  at MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.Platforms.DetourRuntimeILPlatform.GetFunctionPointer (System.Reflection.MethodBase method, System.RuntimeMethodHandle handle) [0x00000] in <4e2760c7517c4ea79c633d67e84b319f>:IL_0000 
  at MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.Platforms.DetourRuntimeILPlatform.GetNativeStart (System.Reflection.MethodBase method) [0x0004d] in <4e2760c7517c4ea79c633d67e84b319f>:IL_004D 
  at MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.DetourHelper.GetNativeStart (System.Reflection.MethodBase method) [0x00005] in <4e2760c7517c4ea79c633d67e84b319f>:IL_0005 
  at MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.Detour._TopApply () [0x00025] in <4e2760c7517c4ea79c633d67e84b319f>:IL_0025 
  at MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.Detour._RefreshChain (System.Reflection.MethodBase method) [0x00149] in <4e2760c7517c4ea79c633d67e84b319f>:IL_0149 
  at MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.Detour.Apply () [0x00053] in <4e2760c7517c4ea79c633d67e84b319f>:IL_0053 
  at MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.Detour..ctor (System.Reflection.MethodBase from, System.Reflection.MethodBase to, MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.DetourConfig& config) [0x002e1] in <4e2760c7517c4ea79c633d67e84b319f>:IL_02E1 
  at (wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.ILHook+Context.DMD<MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.ILHook+Context::Refresh>(MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.ILHook/Context)
  at (wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Trampoline<MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.ILHook+Context::Refresh>?259185518(object)
  at HarmonyLib.Internal.RuntimeFixes.StackTraceFixes.OnILChainRefresh (System.Object self) [0x00000] in <474744d65d8e460fa08cd5fd82b5d65f>:IL_0000 
  at MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.ILHook.Apply () [0x00059] in <4e2760c7517c4ea79c633d67e84b319f>:IL_0059 
  at HarmonyLib.Public.Patching.ManagedMethodPatcher.DetourTo (System.Reflection.MethodBase replacement) [0x00047] in <474744d65d8e460fa08cd5fd82b5d65f>:IL_0047 
Rethrow as HarmonyException: IL Compile Error (unknown location)
  at HarmonyLib.Public.Patching.ManagedMethodPatcher.DetourTo (System.Reflection.MethodBase replacement) [0x0005f] in <474744d65d8e460fa08cd5fd82b5d65f>:IL_005F 
  at HarmonyLib.PatchFunctions.UpdateWrapper (System.Reflection.MethodBase original, HarmonyLib.PatchInfo patchInfo) [0x00033] in <474744d65d8e460fa08cd5fd82b5d65f>:IL_0033 
Rethrow as HarmonyException: IL Compile Error (unknown location)
  at HarmonyLib.PatchClassProcessor.ReportException (System.Exception exception, System.Reflection.MethodBase original) [0x00045] in <474744d65d8e460fa08cd5fd82b5d65f>:IL_0045 
  at HarmonyLib.PatchClassProcessor.Patch () [0x00095] in <474744d65d8e460fa08cd5fd82b5d65f>:IL_0095 
  at HarmonyLib.Harmony.PatchAll (System.Type type) [0x00008] in <474744d65d8e460fa08cd5fd82b5d65f>:IL_0008 
  at PersistentPurchases.Plugin.Awake () [0x00037] in <9d36770362664d9fa32dc014c89006df>:IL_0037 
UnityEngine.GameObject:Internal_AddComponentWithType(GameObject, Type)
UnityEngine.GameObject:AddComponent(Type)
BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader:Start()
UnityEngine.Application:.cctor()
UnityEngine.NVIDIA.GraphicsDevice:CreateGraphicsDevice()
UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.DLSSPass:SetupFeature(HDRenderPipelineGlobalSettings)
UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipeline:SetupDLSSFeature(HDRenderPipelineGlobalSettings)
UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipelineAsset:OnEnable()

[Info   :   BepInEx] Loading [PintoBoy 1.0.2]

[hearty frost]

You don't need

[hearty frost]

Yes works and also just got a multiplayer patch, so good for multiplayer now.

[stark berry]

yes but new update push just in case

[hearty frost]

We've never really needed it for few months now 😛

[barren rover]

whyyy

Maybe model replacement

who fucking knows

at SpectateEnemy.Patches.GameNetworkManager_Patches.Postfix ()

maybe spectate enemy

[gilded night]

Is there a way to make xp/perks progress be tied to a save state

[hearty frost]

I bare a gift to anyone who wants a base ModPack for AdvanceCompany, use as it is or work from it. Advanced Company - Base - v1.0.1: 018d44ab-f7be-d735-343e-d74db6696e21

[eternal mauve]

yep, uncheck the lil box near the xp/perks area in advanced company settings

[sullen ravine]

Where are we advancing fellas

[barren rover]

Found it, its OE Tweaks better masks mod or whatever its called

Do not use with AC

[vagrant python]

Post a SS of mod?

[barren rover]

Possessed_Masks by OE_Tweaks

[vagrant python]

Gotcha

[solid pivot]

Virus Mod tbh. I dont see why any mod would want to access your Registry

[wide zealot]

Yeah I wonder wtf mod he has installed that would even ask for that permission

[jaunty ingot]

i wonder if they are just using it for some of the enums in that class, either way it makes zero sense lol

[wide zealot]

Nahhhh no mod should ask for registry permissions ever

[jaunty ingot]

i mean tbf its not asking for permission, its just referencing a class that shouldnt ever be needed here but yeah

[solid pivot]

At least that DLL doesnt seem to be present :D

[jaunty ingot]

thats good lol

wonder if they are saving states that way for some ungodly reason

[solid pivot]

xD

[barren rover]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/OE_Tweaks/Possessed_Masks/

[vagrant python]

So
I'm still going down a rabbithole trying to find an answer for this question

What is the cause for the name desync

For example,

You have me Slav, my buddy Moose, when we have over 4 people, sometimes my name will be changed to moose and the terminal /monitor will show moose and that will be associated with me and he may become someone else entirely

If you look at the monitor, you will see my icon but his name

It damn nears breaks the feature of teleporting because it becomes a guessing game

I don't know if I should be looking in the log for something but I don't know what exactly causes it either

Just figured I'd ask here in case anyone has insight on this

I've tried searching mods and I've tried searching through the discord
It seems to be only fixed after remaking the lobby

[solid pivot]

Finally someone recognize you can outrun coilheads with the speed :3

Now try Jester :3

[wide zealot]

Yes lol, I wanna find a looping spot at some point and loop a coil in circles with those it's so fun how close it sounds to you then you realize it's 5-6 meters behind you when you turn around XD

[solid pivot]

Logs and screenshots of the debug command on portable terminal would be more helpful than a report.

[vagrant python]

Alright
I will try to get a group later to try and reproduce it and submit on it - I don't even know if it's an AC specific because it was an issue in MC
Makes me wonder if it's a base game issue

[eternal mauve]

is it normal for a total monster power level of 8 to spawn on a moon with a power level of 7?

(outside)

[eternal mauve]

you have no mods that mess with the terminal?

(or... do you think its specific to this mod??? orrrr)

[solid pivot]

I am planning on fortifying the lobby code even more, keeping my own track of things and make the game adjust every frame if something is off.

So AC will keep track of names and set the player controllers usernames accordingly

[steel lance]

Looking for a way to change the font size as its seriously really large when I test loaded the mod. Also Will it let me use other mods like LethalExpansion to config the moons/scrap/& weather stuff?

[vagrant python]

Well, this issue was long before I was running my own servers
Anything touching terminal either
I first noticed it in early versions of MC

I think it may happen when people die

One issue I know for sure is when people are joining and you have over 4, names go wild

I will also document this as well

For example,
I open a fresh lobby
I invite 10 people
Often it is reported to me that people will see my name 5x
I see everyone's name normally though
Sometimes I will see random names of people not even in the lobby - that I have never played with

[solid pivot]

"not even in the lobby" <- this must happen in vanilla as I do nothing with name retrieval :)

[vagrant python]

Fascinating

I speculate if it's people trying to join the lobby but perhaps failing? (I.e, vanilla players)

[solid pivot]

They dont get a player object assigned and get disconnected as if the connection approval returned false

[vagrant python]

Hmm
I'll try to keep both instances separate when submitting

When I make the lobby and everyone joins
I'll get screenshots from myself and members

And grab logs of the moment and from portable terminal

When the name desync occurs on the monitors,
I'll do the same with screenshots, debug and logs and how it was produced
It's a fairly easily repruducable issue as it occurs every time I host 4+

Thanks for your responses

[solid pivot]

other people reported 30 player lobbies working flawlessly

[vagrant python]

Interesting
Biggest I've ran is 11
Usually the only issue i have is the monitor / name
Pause menu name issues

Otherwise no issues with stability

Just those annoyances

[wide zealot]

Usually for me names desync when I send an invite

[vagrant python]

It's just funny when someone types, say Moose into the terminal or changes via monitor and my ass gets YOINKED

[vagrant python]

Oh, like invite players via steam?

[wide zealot]

Like if someone is in my lobby, their name suddenly becomes the person's name I've sent the invite to

Yeah

but only in the tab menu

Lol

I'm not sure if that's a bug with AC though it might be vanilla

[vagrant python]

Yeah I don't have issues with overhead player names

Just to be super clear
I'm following you though

I'm gonna add that to my testing and see if it has correlation

[wide zealot]

Btw @solid pivot I do wanna thank you for fixing the desync when people join late with names on the terminal lol

That was probably the most annoying bug to deal with XD

Which every late join mod had up til you fixed that

[vagrant python]

What do you mean by this?

Just in case it may relate to my issue

[wide zealot]

When someone would join the game late, names on the terminal would desync and it would basically confuse and swap out player names

that's been fixed by Potatoe

[vagrant python]

Yeah, with other players?

[wide zealot]

Yeah

[vagrant python]

Shit I wonder if that could be the cause

[wide zealot]

I don't think so I think the tab menu names desyncing when a steam invite is sent is literally vanilla

It fixes once the person joins

[vagrant python]

That issue is far less of an issue im worried about

But what you mentioned is what I'm dealing with that is a huge problem

[wide zealot]

I have not had terminal names desync at all in a while

[vagrant python]

Could you DM me your mod list for comparison?

And to clarify, if you run 4+
Names don't mismatch on monitor?

Makes me wonder if another mod could be causing it

[wide zealot]

No

Not since Potatoe implemented the code to fix it after I made him aware of it that's not saying it can't happen though

[vagrant python]

Right, which makes sense
Bugs are quite slippery

[wide zealot]

The only option I know might cause desyncs is if you let people join and spectate while landed

There's a reason that option is off by default

[vagrant python]

No, that feature has been hit and miss and causes crashes with ship item desync - at least that's what the error would say at the menu

Right

[solid pivot]

Would love for people to report with logs when its a miss tbh

Then I can make it work 100% of the time 🤷‍♂️

But if you dont want late join to work I guess its OK to keep on your holy logs

[barren rover]

So far working more or less flawlessly with 140ish mods in a 6 person lobby

Very reigorous testing

[grizzled root]

uh.... This is Happend when Go terminal then Go Personal Terminal ( quit terminal then press X [without delay instant Press x] )

[solid pivot]

I consider this a no problem

Close terminal and open again fixes it

And even if it doesnt, you now know what not to do

[grizzled root]

nope still like that

already Close Terminal and open agins still same like pictures

[steel lance]

Is there a way to make the text slightly smaller??

[grizzled root]

@solid pivot check the Github

[steel lance]

Nice size modpack I'm curious which mods?

[barren rover]

Ill try to load it up into a R2 code

Lots of cosmetic and scrap, i try to avoid things that look redundant or troublesome, config editors, things that do what other mods do but worse, etc...

[steel lance]

you have the code so I can take a peek?

[barren rover]

No R2 too laggy, refusing to export

I included the dependency string though

[wide zealot]

Idk why you keep using r2 if it's giving you issues

Lol

[barren rover]

I only use it for downloading the mods in bulk

And update checking

[solid pivot]

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[wide zealot]

@solid pivot any chance you could iimplement the option for the drop ship to take off fast after you open it's doors like FasterItemDropship has?

Cus I don't wanna reinstall that mod just for that feature XD

[stiff galleon]

18 now

[balmy marlin]

is MoreCompany works rn?

[arctic sonnet]

if you're asking "Does MoreCompany work right now?" - you can have it installed with AC. AC just disables most of it due to AC doing what MoreCompany does.

[balmy marlin]

hmm i just wanted the lobby expansion and cosmetics thing

[arctic sonnet]

cosmetics function without MoreCompany. But it's specifically the cosmetics themselves you have to obtain o ,o

and the expanded lobby comes basekit with AC. So if you don't care for the specific cosmetics obtained via. MoreCompany - you could ditch it entirely

although that might even be a lie at this point - Potatoe probably released an update that just gets the base cosmetics 😅

I simply haven't tested removing MoreCompany and testing what AC cosmetics I get basekit with the other cosmetic mods

[wide zealot]

You still need to have MoreCompany installed if you want the cosmetics that MoreCompany includes

Cosmetic mods though will work without it

[arctic sonnet]

Potatoe could totally make that irrelevant if he wanted to ;p

[wide zealot]

I would love that honestly, there has to be some way to get the cosmetics out of the dll for MoreCompany lol

[balmy marlin]

is lobby expansion on ac works?

[arctic sonnet]

? .-.

[balmy marlin]

e

[arctic sonnet]

Are you asking if AC can make lobbies bigger?

[balmy marlin]

yes but i want the bigger lobbies as single file

like morecompany does

[arctic sonnet]

... huh..? ...

You do not set up configs with AC... if you're thinking of setting configs up

you do it all in-game

[twilit rock]

Is there a way to make AdvancedCompany not overwrite the spawns for the masked for the mod MaskedOverhaul?

[arctic sonnet]

does it do that? . ,.

[wide zealot]

It doesn't do that

[twilit rock]

it doesn't?

[arctic sonnet]

that's what I thought o- o

[twilit rock]

weird means a different mode is

[arctic sonnet]

AC gives you the option to customize it however you want, but the numbers you see there are what the maps have

unless ye tick the box, those are set by default or some other mod

If you have any event-based mod, check those

brutal company, hullbreaker, etc

[twilit rock]

I did, I turned off savage company thinking it caused it

it didn't

[arctic sonnet]

hm

[twilit rock]

I don't have any other event-based mods