#[Deprecated] Advanced Company

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shell coyote
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since I send my modpack 1:1

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but problem is

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its DEFAULT on their end

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all the time

arctic sonnet
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you... are using a manager right?

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none of this manual

shell coyote
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yes

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of course

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its legit copy with using R2modman

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configured within game before game starts

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etc etc

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everything should be properly set

arctic sonnet
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pass me the code, I'll get it on my end and see what is off . -.

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you have to host

shell coyote
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018d3a75-0397-f4fa-ca20-69fff1273e7a

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86 mods, watch out, its not messy as it seems

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see it for yourself tho, odd thing is it worked few updates before

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smth with update broke it

arctic sonnet
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this is a tiny chonker - but i got it

tardy flicker
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OmegaTools WAS the issue after all

shell coyote
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I'M the host

config should be 1:1 since they use the code I sent

I AM SURE I saved it

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its the latest version of AC

arctic sonnet
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I do see your preset copied over

shell coyote
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fresh lobby

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yes

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thats what Im also saying

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potato seem to not give a care about this I've been trying to say this for 2 days

lost python
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Does it have logs

shell coyote
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probably

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I could send both mine and my friends

lost python
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Yeah prob report it to github

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Cause iirc he made a github for advancedcompany already

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Make sure to follow the template

shell coyote
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man don't get me wrong but

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github seems slower

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while I could reach here fast as hell but its just how you see it

lost python
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At least it won't get flooded, also, I am just suggesting steps so dw

shell coyote
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this shit is so cancerous that we stopped playing yesterday night

arctic sonnet
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@shell coyote Pass me invite.

shell coyote
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with like 8 people lobby

shell coyote
arctic sonnet
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just dm the join code off the page

shell coyote
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wait how

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teach me

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i didn't know Icould do that

arctic sonnet
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@shell coyote

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dm me that link

shell coyote
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ok a sec

arctic sonnet
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ensure you're hosting first.

eternal mauve
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LOL

shell coyote
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I am hosting

arctic sonnet
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it changes every time you host.

eternal ivy
shell coyote
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sent

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join and see for yourself from logs

arctic sonnet
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@shell coyote

shell coyote
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how

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how

arctic sonnet
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🤣 ...

shell coyote
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HOW

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bro

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its

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not same on them

arctic sonnet
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user error -3-

shell coyote
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tho

arctic sonnet
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it's not your fault or their fault

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sort of

shell coyote
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wdym

arctic sonnet
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see, no cache 'n stuff means I get it fresh. I got nothing.

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I then noted this:

eternal ivy
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You get what fresh?

arctic sonnet
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on a whim

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I ensured to name it precisely.

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They have "Test"

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You have "Hardcore"

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there is no "Hardcore" in the file for them

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so it gives default

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This is why if you're gonna make a pack for only one group of people to play- just keep it "default". Keep the name default XD

eternal ivy
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It still should be synced from host and client presets should have no effect.

arctic sonnet
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You say should.

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He is hammering out like a hundred bugs

barren rover
arctic sonnet
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Oh hell no lol

barren rover
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😭

split mist
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Yeah it is possible that if they have separate presets loaded it may not properly sync

arctic sonnet
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Old configs are a nightmare

split mist
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It may be intended to do so, but may be bugged

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I just reported a couple bugs I found myself

shell coyote
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wait

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master

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its still same issue on my friend

arctic sonnet
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here

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that very code you gave me

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give them. This is what to do

eternal ivy
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It must be a bug. Nothing to do with profile sharing, modpacks or whatever else.

barren rover
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Tell your friend to uninstall the old modpack and reinstall whatever code with the config included

arctic sonnet
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(trying to find the image - hold up)

split mist
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This is a fun one

arctic sonnet
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didn't save it on my PC. I'll make a new image in 10 seconds.. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

shell coyote
eternal ivy
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Just tell them to import it as new instead of updating the existing profile.

shell coyote
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ohhh

arctic sonnet
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Oh yeah never update existing

barren rover
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What a pain

arctic sonnet
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nuke packs - Import new.

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and screw off with cache

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cache is irritating

barren rover
shell coyote
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Ah I see why it happend

eternal ivy
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Nah, cache should be fine.

shell coyote
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my friend trying whole new profile

eternal ivy
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No need to nuke anything either. Just select new on import and override.

barren rover
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But why clutter by keeping all the old stuff around

eternal ivy
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What?

arctic sonnet
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look, they like cache

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Let em keep cache

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but I'll ensure I ain't got a cache to keep o- o

eternal ivy
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You know cache is just for mods original files right?

barren rover
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yes, but I want my mods pristine fresh from the web

eternal ivy
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It's not for configs or anything.

shell coyote
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so master

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what you did was import it into whole new profile correct?

arctic sonnet
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Yep

shell coyote
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and that was it?

arctic sonnet
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Yep

shell coyote
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does running work for you?

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try running see if you'Re flash

arctic sonnet
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Yep

eternal ivy
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?

arctic sonnet
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lol

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That speed would instakill someone

barren rover
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I automated putting in the values for the loot table on each moon

shell coyote
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well he again messed u

split mist
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Ik why you're saying it but seeing someone say "so master" in a Lethal Company Discord is funny to me xD

arctic sonnet
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XD ...

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I love this though

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I find it entertaining I come in and it's just like "it's all working?" "yep" "you're fast?" "Yep"

shell coyote
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well

arctic sonnet
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also jesus christ @shell coyote - what is your main menu music and why do I feel more unsettled by it than the girl breathing down my neck-

shell coyote
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my friend now trying to delete all the profile of my codes and try it whole new one

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uh

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cookie's sounds

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gonna remove it later

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once I fix this darn issue myself

arctic sonnet
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lol 😅

shell coyote
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also

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I noticed that my friends directly downloads my codfe

barren rover
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wdym

arctic sonnet
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If they don't have an issue with the net 'n whatnot (limited bandwidth or something). If you get the code last, give it to em, they import it new, cache disabled, cache cleared - it should be perfect 1:1

shell coyote
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cache disabled?

arctic sonnet
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they should be getting a perfect replica

shell coyote
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cache cleared?

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how do they

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clear cache and stuff

arctic sonnet
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assuming you've clicked the code last - try not to edit presets or names after you've clicked that copy-code

shell coyote
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yea

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I didn't

arctic sonnet
shell coyote
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but still same issue

arctic sonnet
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what the hecc did u mean

eternal ivy
shell coyote
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like they instantly go to %100 on importing

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not like downloading

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as if its already downloaded on new profile

barren rover
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Thats the cache

shell coyote
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yea

eternal ivy
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That progress bar is misleading.

shell coyote
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I need it gone

eternal ivy
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It can sit at 100% for minutes.

barren rover
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And its R2 so yea the progress bar is likely meaningless

arctic sonnet
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@shell coyote

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If you wanna rid that cache completely.

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but note - you will have to download every mod, every time.

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so if you nuke this pack and import new

shell coyote
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alright

arctic sonnet
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you download all of that pack from 1 to 86

split mist
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...I fail to see this as an issue, especially since toggling the download cache would help if my friends and I have to reinstall the mods later down the line again

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goes to toggle download cache

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😛

arctic sonnet
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XD

split mist
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Granted, I have speedy interwebs

arctic sonnet
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I have.... interwebs.

split mist
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For those with the less speedy of interwebs, I can see why the cache is good

shell coyote
split mist
lost python
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Download more cache

arctic sonnet
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don't know why people say cache isn't all there is to life or money is the root of problems - the root of the problem actually lies within the [CalculatePolygonPath]

eternal ivy
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Cache is essentially downloads folder that keeps all mods you ever downloaded. And no matter how many profiles you have, they're just referenced from cache. So you don't have a separate download of the same mod for each profile that has said mod. With cache off, it the old way. Every profile will have copy of each mod in its profile folder.

shell coyote
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yeah I see now

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that was the issue

eternal mauve
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Does anyone know if badass company or TooManyEmotes mess up the AdvancedOS terminal?

eternal ivy
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It wasn't really.

shell coyote
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how so?

eternal ivy
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Because host settings for AC should just sync to everyone from host. But they don't fit some reason.

arctic sonnet
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but that is the key word there: should.

shell coyote
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thats the reason, master explained it

arctic sonnet
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potatoe still has another 200 hotfixes

eternal ivy
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A bug or a conflict, IDK. But it's not files related.

arctic sonnet
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and he's adding onto that list because of these damn items -u-'

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the issue may exist because of your nuking of "Default"

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if for whatever reason you wanna use a new preset, just make a new one and don't delete "default"

split mist
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The only real issue with caching the mods is if A. You have mods that for some reason store stuff in their files instead of outside of them, or B. Installation orders, since I believe Thunderstore and r2modman pull from the cache before downloading new ones at all, which can be an issue if one person has cached mods and one doesn't, since they'll technically be loaded in a different order

arctic sonnet
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I have heard about load order in here before

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apparently that's an issue? The hell is this, skyrim?

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How many years must we suffer todd howard before we can throw it all into a box and have it load properly like minecraft mods?

shell coyote
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oh no

eternal ivy
eternal mauve
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Also is this from Lethal Progression?

arctic sonnet
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tell that to the people who talked bout load order up there o -o

eternal ivy
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Load order is dependencies before mods that depend on them and then alphabetical.

shell coyote
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as a 5 year skyrim modder

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I don't wanna hear it again

arctic sonnet
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lol

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10 mods, your limit?

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how about ensuring 15 load in the right order ;p

shell coyote
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nah I love spending %90 of my play time modding the game

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%10 the gameplay

arctic sonnet
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you're telling me - I've spend 60+ fkin' hours perfecting a pack

shell coyote
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yes

arctic sonnet
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and some arse of 'friends' don't wanna touch it

shell coyote
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all for perfecting

arctic sonnet
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they instead touch some megapack some nimwit on another server made

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that conflicts harder with itself than [insert any political thing here]

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before hitting the main menu

shell coyote
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I guess me modding games habit comes from FO4 and Skyrim

split mist
arctic sonnet
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Mine only suffers this unstoppable issue:

eternal mauve
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Yea looking at the current most popular mod packs is kinda painfu

arctic sonnet
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I tried everything to stop that.

split mist
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Whereas if we all install at the same time in the same order from the code, no issues

eternal ivy
arctic sonnet
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it's an unstoppable bug >:c

eternal mauve
arctic sonnet
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RANDOMLY

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There is no AI tied to it, no enemy is stuck, every enemy is moving and calculating paths

prime plover
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37k messages

eternal mauve
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In the middle of ANYTGING?

arctic sonnet
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This damn calculatepolygonpath

eternal ivy
arctic sonnet
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is happening to an enemy that isn't existent

split mist
arctic sonnet
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; - ;

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I put many hours into this damn pack

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the only issue is that <-<

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and it doesn't even happen sometimes

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could go 4 moons - full day-to-night

arctic sonnet
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This is me testing it. Me putting in damn cheaty commands to spawn in 5 of everything, and like 1 of a bracken: [Nothing happens]

shell coyote
eternal mauve
shell coyote
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kev

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...it happend again

split mist
# eternal ivy Install from a code in different order? What?

Imagine me, a modpack maker:
Adds 1 mod, tests it, it works
Adds another mod, tests it, it works
Adds a few more, one at a time, game loading them each as I install them
Now imagine random friend I send the code to:
Didn't install them in the same order as me cuz the code just installs them alphabetically or whatever
Loads up the game
Network config mismatch
If I then uninstall everything, clear the cache, and install with the code, Network config mismatch goes away, despite having the same mods

arctic sonnet
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omfg lost

shell coyote
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they cleared cache, disabled download cache

arctic sonnet
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=w='

shell coyote
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downloaded new one

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I SWEAR

arctic sonnet
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XD

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🤣 ...

shell coyote
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man

arctic sonnet
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO TELL YOU ;w;

shell coyote
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what did we do wrong now

arctic sonnet
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You saw me

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load in

shell coyote
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yes I did but

arctic sonnet
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You saw me with the speed

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the perks

shell coyote
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what part we did wrong there

arctic sonnet
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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

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ok

shell coyote
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we're trying to figure that there

arctic sonnet
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How about this

eternal ivy
arctic sonnet
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test this for a second

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what save are you on

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save 2?

shell coyote
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yea

split mist
arctic sonnet
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tell them - to host their own lobby. Not inviting you, no

split mist
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So clearly something is changing the load order

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

arctic sonnet
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just - host. Load in. Give it a second. Quit

shell coyote
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ok

arctic sonnet
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then join in on you.

eternal ivy
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I don't doubt it happening. But it has nothing to do with a load order.

shell coyote
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ok

solid pivot
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You can look at the BepInEx code, there is no such thing as load order

arctic sonnet
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Potatoe is alive

solid pivot
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Only dependencies loading first

eternal ivy
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Because you can't influence it. Bepin just loads everything alphabetically and dependencies before mods that depend on it.

shell coyote
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still same

arctic sonnet
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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

shell coyote
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they hosted

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left

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same config, "Test"

arctic sonnet
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No no no.

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No.

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Tell them to host

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before they host

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Rename "Test" to "Hardcore"

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save - continue.

split mist
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Shrug, I'm too tired for this, it's 4am and I gotta go pick up my boyfriend from the airport tomorrow to finish up getting ready for our move

arctic sonnet
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then - leave, and then let em join in on you.

split mist
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Y'all have a good night!

arctic sonnet
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drive safe . ,.

split mist
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I won't be driving, I don't has license, but ty

arctic sonnet
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ride safe

split mist
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will do lmao

shell coyote
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we only have "Test" now

arctic sonnet
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"we"?

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you redid yours???

shell coyote
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yes but I sent the code and made them download it

arctic sonnet
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. -.

shell coyote
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so thats what we are currently in it

arctic sonnet
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ok, and you followed through with clearing your cache shit too?

shell coyote
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yes

arctic sonnet
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'n downloaded off the very same link

shell coyote
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whole new download

arctic sonnet
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or- er - code

shell coyote
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both me and them

arctic sonnet
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okey

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god how the hecc is this happening lol..

shell coyote
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I have

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zero idea

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but I just want to fix it

eternal ivy
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Instead of wasting your time trying to come up with some workaround you could've just posted the log or something. Because clearly that's not how AC syncing should work.

shell coyote
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nah

arctic sonnet
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🔧 Throwin' more of these in there till it works

eternal ivy
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Better to fix it at the core.

arctic sonnet
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although potatoe probably wouldn't mind an attempt

shell coyote
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Im done with trying to communicate with potato

arctic sonnet
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try over github o -o

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I don't have the player logs of this bug ever happening

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because it successfully works on my end

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it's the logs between both of you that are needed

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in the event it shows anything

shell coyote
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but I don't get it

arctic sonnet
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which I sort of doubt it will as it sounds like someone is defaulting into another save file

shell coyote
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we did what you told

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1:1

arctic sonnet
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and u saw it worked on my end 😅 ... I dunno wtf is between you two

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I tried my best ;w; ... cache cleared, nuked profile, import from new: via. code...

barren rover
shell coyote
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oh wait

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oh wait

arctic sonnet
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revalation? . ,.

shell coyote
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my friend #2 had it

solid pivot
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Are you still taking about the perks thing?

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There is a github issue for it with details

eternal ivy
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Disabling cache and importing as new does that already.

shell coyote
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yea

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it worked

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its the solution

barren rover
# eternal ivy Why?

Because its way easier than explaining to 10 people how to install and use r2modman, avoids issues like this, i can control exactly what their lethal company dir looks like

arctic sonnet
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so #2 didn't follow the cache stuff?

shell coyote
arctic sonnet
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🤷‍♂️

shell coyote
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he also downloaded it

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from ground up

arctic sonnet
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did #1 host first

eternal ivy
shell coyote
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yes

arctic sonnet
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then leave - then join?

shell coyote
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he did

arctic sonnet
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ok - make #2 do that

shell coyote
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yk what was the odd thing?

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1 has the flash speed

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2 didn't

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when they hosted

barren rover
shell coyote
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I joıned 1, I also had it

arctic sonnet
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they both hosted separately?

shell coyote
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yea

eternal ivy
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Not really.

arctic sonnet
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they both left?

shell coyote
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yea

eternal ivy
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It also messes their install and permanently makes it modded unless they delete all the added files.

arctic sonnet
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lost - somethin' is just weird alright? I dunno how much ye trust the ones you're tryin' to play with, but clearly there's a discrepancy in the discrepancies o -o

barren rover
arctic sonnet
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but just keep tossing wrenches at it alright o- o

eternal ivy
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Cool. I'll just assume you're on a pirated version anyway.

barren rover
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idk, its just less click overall

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and i know how it works, so i know if something goes wrong and how it went wrong

arctic sonnet
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y'all gotta teach others the ways of r2 'n codes. o- o

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I sat down 'n taught somebody the ways of r2 for like 15 minutes or so - they're gonna chain-teach others into it down the road

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don't toss em a fish, teach em how the hell to do it o- o

solid pivot
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btw

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afaik the order in which mods are loaded is the same order you see in file explorer

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Windows has that oddity that depending on how you sort smth in explorer is saved for the folder

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thats funny :3

barren rover
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useful to know

arctic sonnet
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You're giving me the itch to load my modpack after sorting my default folder in a different way

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and seeing if it fuck things up

solid pivot
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But its not guaranteed to be that way too

eternal ivy
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To mess that you'd have to have anything but alphabetical sort as default.

solid pivot
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Windows NTFS is working in mysterious ways

arctic sonnet
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omg

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imagine this could technically be an issue

solid pivot
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I mean, most Linux users hate NTFS :3

arctic sonnet
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between windows 10 and 11

barren rover
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i sort by file type 😜

arctic sonnet
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they could've shifted something

solid pivot
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But I think BepInEx is actually sorting the files somewhere

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I will check again later

eternal ivy
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That would be very stupid if BepIn cared about explorer sort.

barren rover
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He said that windows folders have the order baked in depending on how they are sorted in explorer

solid pivot
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Its nothing they have to actively do

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Its how windows returns files

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If you say: Give me all files, they are ordered in the way you have set in explorer afaik

arctic sonnet
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It's all coming together to me. This is all Windows Explorer's fault

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shoulda set it with chrome

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I remember the days restarting explorer.exe when shit just locked up in xp days... -u-'

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I wonder if that fixes lockups nowadays

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haven't done it in a long ass time

solid pivot
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ok, they add all plugins in order of what windows returned to a dictionary. Dictionary are also not guaranteed to keep their sorting :D

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Its a mess basically

arctic sonnet
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why do I feel like this could be solved with bepin loading them all at once - figuring out what touches what - and then loading them in a proper order where mods that need to touch other mods load lower on the list . ,.

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which would probably make yours load last

barren rover
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@solid pivot How does the "probability" value for enemies work?

solid pivot
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I guess they solely rely on dependency sorting because people are not tech savyy enough to sort their mods themself :P

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0 = no spawn
100 = much spawn

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Same with items

arctic sonnet
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i'm tech savy to sort my mods myself! >:c ... where... did i uh... keep the plugins

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I wonder actually

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would putting mods in sets - in folders

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help load it better?

solid pivot
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oh

arctic sonnet
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if organized right?

solid pivot
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you mean probability

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thats a weird variable

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I wanted to add it still tho

barren rover
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yea it seems very arbritrary

solid pivot
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Look at the code yourself :3

arctic sonnet
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i tried looking up probability

solid pivot
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Cant explain it to you

arctic sonnet
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the wiki pages flew over my head

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you're welcome to look up that page

barren rover
solid pivot
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float num = timeScript.lengthOfHours * (float)currentHour;
    float num2 = currentLevel.daytimeEnemySpawnChanceThroughDay.Evaluate(num / timeScript.totalTime);
    Debug.Log($"base chance daytime: {currentLevel.daytimeEnemySpawnChanceThroughDay.Evaluate(num / timeScript.totalTime)}");
    Debug.Log($"timeuptocurrenthour: {num}; totalTime: {timeScript.totalTime}");
    int num3 = Mathf.Clamp(AnomalyRandom.Next((int)(num2 - currentLevel.daytimeEnemiesProbabilityRange), (int)(num2 + currentLevel.daytimeEnemiesProbabilityRange)), 0, 20);
    Debug.Log($"AnomalyRandom 2: {num3}");
    GameObject[] spawnPoints = GameObject.FindGameObjectsWithTag("OutsideAINode");
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It increases the amount of enemies to spawn

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At least the probability of it

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it increases the chance to spawn 0 but also to spawn for example 20

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makes it more random in the extremes

barren rover
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Is "lengthOfHours" the same value as the day length value in the config

solid pivot
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no

wide zealot
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@solid pivot any chance for a fix soon for perks the host disables not being disabled for people that join the lobby?

solid pivot
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I do work on GitHub issues, I wont prioritize them by bugging me about them :3

wide zealot
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idk if any other settings don't disable properly across clients

swift merlin
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disable purchasing upgrades but everyone else in the party can continue upgrading.
I have added 2 slots to purchase and still everyone but me can purchase slots.
What is this error due to?

solid pivot
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Spoiler: your problem was already reported

meager cradle
solid pivot
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1.1.0 Beta 9 Hotfix 3 (1.0.132)

  • Fixed a bug which resulted in perk configuration to be not synchronized
  • Fixed a bug when clients havent started the game yet and encounter an enemy not present in their local dict.
  • Fixed a bug which resulted in the default preset showing wrong values when building the dict.
  • Fixed the mod patcher to actually work again.
shell coyote
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ZAMN

solid pivot
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Uploaded and also added this to the README

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Did anyone find the new cursed item? :3

barren rover
#

@solid pivot Does the default config represent the vanilla values?

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like despite all overrides being disabled

solid pivot
#

Yes, vanilla is not overridden

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Why should Vanilla override via AC? :P

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And no not exactly vanilla

#

it represents your values with your mods

barren rover
#

No like are the values in the config the same as the vanilla values, the values that have the overrides off by default

solid pivot
#

no

#

Cant guarantee that

#

as other mods might change the values

#

The values are then lost

barren rover
#

yes but the one that the mod downloads with is accurate?

solid pivot
#

?

#

Yea

#

They are from my game

#

with only AC installed

barren rover
#

nice

brazen quail
#

I have LethalExpansion and that alone doesn't cause me any issues

barren rover
#

No i mean is LethalExpansion a dependency of it?

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Some mods like to do thing in weird wacky ways away from standardized things like LE, to cause weird unexpected errors

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Though if u have LE installed instead of LEC that may be why

brazen quail
#

Oh I see, I don't think it is, no, cause I had disabled LE in trying to diagnose the issue and nothing else broke

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I have LEC installed too but I have it set to use LE purely so I can use kg and 24hr time

arctic sonnet
#

You can delete LE.

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I have to be a darn advocate of just nuking LE out of packs

#

but I also wish we could mark mods as not having an issue when they clearly don't have one

barren rover
#

I wish R2ModMan could let people make feedback about compatibility and report that in the menu

#

just like a "report compatability issue" button, you click it, select two mods you select are incompatible, and submit.

enough reports given and a little warning shows up in the mod list

solid pivot
#

Its pinned now

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I just edited my pinned posts

still obsidian
#

Thanks for your last update Potatoe, it fixed our issue with scrap value 🫡 👏

solid pivot
#

👍

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As you can see. Creating a GitHub issue and adding all necessary context will get bugs fixed

still obsidian
#

👍

stark berry
#

"How big ur ship?"

"Yes..."

shell coyote
#

holdon

#

that a mod?

stark berry
shell coyote
#

where

stark berry
#

biggership

shell coyote
#

WIP, do not use?

stark berry
#

but not perfect still wip i guess

stark berry
shell coyote
#

there any issues with it yet?

stark berry
#

but u can go to that space from there

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and accessible only if landed in moon

shell coyote
#

me see

shell coyote
#

I didn't get it

#

wdym by that space from there

stark berry
#

or if door open just jump from the ship fence

shell coyote
#

problem is theres nothing there

stark berry
#

need to crouch and walk there if from inside

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and ship items like wardrobe can't put there i

lost python
#

so 1.0.132 should be good right 👀

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I haven't backread much as I was outside but I do know that the github issues were being addressed

solid pivot
grizzled root
#

Cosmestic using .dll not work? i mean like MoreHead and WackyCosmestic

lilac owl
winter umbra
#

i've seen you talk about disabling the portable terminal, is it already pushed or is it for a later update?

lilac owl
grizzled root
#

maybe Morehead no work because Have Another depency like Jiggle.
without AC is work fine the Morehead but with AC cosmestic Morehead no work

lilac owl
#

Its not because of the jiggle, I just told you why

grizzled root
#

ah y

lilac owl
#

MoreHead uses its own method to load the cosmetics since they didn't build them as .cosmetics files for some reason

grizzled root
#

wackycosmestic now no using .dll he using .cosmestic for make compatible with AC

solid pivot
#

I decided against butchering my mod to cater to peoples needs. So rn its either play with AC and enjoy it or dont. I dont care any longer

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Portable Terminal wont be deactivateable in t he near future, probably ever. Because I will stop developing this mod.

#

Just remove the keybind

winter umbra
#

okay

ancient sand
#

I play with other mods with AC as core

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If something conflict and I remove the other mod

#

Don't know why people come complaining here and not the other mods to make them compatible with AC

solid pivot
#

There was never that much stagnation then when I tried to do what others told me to do.

#

YOu can tell me what to do, but you have to pay my hourly wage of $90.

ancient sand
#

You are to cheap 😛

solid pivot
#

As long as I develop my mod with my time I will do whatever I want to do

ancient sand
#

How much one night with u? Hahhha

barren rover
#

😭

solid pivot
#

One night is $10 million

ancient sand
#

PayPal and address

#

Hahahaha

barren rover
#

Why would someone want to disable the personal terminal, just keeps everyone from hoarding the terminal to shop

solid pivot
#

Dont know tbh

twin cipher
#

portable terminal is so convenient

solid pivot
#

Investing hours to make it removeable again doesnt seem benefical for the mod.

barren rover
#

Its imperative to the gameplay to wait for 5 minutes while someone uses the terminal!!

solid pivot
#

(Removing it as in making it dynamically load depending on configuration)

#

I mean, people asked me for an option to remove my logo from the main menu

winter umbra
winter umbra
solid pivot
#

All I can offer is a basic "X" wont bring up anything

#

synced value for lobby

#

the code for the portable terminal still runs

#

you just cant open it

winter umbra
#

i'm ok with that

solid pivot
#

This isnt a good way of doing it but its the only thing I can do in basically 10 minutes

solid pivot
#

They want the "vanilla feeling" X)

barren rover
#

Dont do it just to spite them

shell coyote
#

they can f...well, just move on

stiff galleon
solid pivot
#

xD

stiff galleon
#

If you want vanilla style just play vanilla instead

solid pivot
#

So yea, there will be a new tab in lobby config soon

#

"Game"

shell coyote
#

"What do you mean theres no 124915812905 coilheads at enterance gate? GAME IS TOO EASY WAAAH!!!"

solid pivot
#

First 2 options are most likely starting credits and activate portable terminal

barren rover
#

People confuse "vanilla feeling" with just useful convenience features so much

lost python
#

they always do

#

💀

shell coyote
#

Way I see in my modpack is It's just lethal company +

solid pivot
#

Save progress will switch from Lobby => Game

shell coyote
#

or LC2

stiff galleon
#

Hey I want vanilla style
Me : just remove all of your mod and boom you will get it

lost python
#

vanilla feeling is not having 8 people in your lobby 👍

solid pivot
#

Lobby just being the abilities of the lobby code (max players, late join etc)

shell coyote
#

I do have 8 people in game

#

and man

#

only 1 of us returns all the time

#

yeah...

stiff galleon
#

Btw is join middle game and late join stable now?

shell coyote
#

but its always cool that people call me boss there

#

since I'm the only one whos wearing white

#

we do follow a rank system

barren rover
#

@solid pivot Have a disable portable terminal option that just prevents the mod from loading in on any subsequent loads 😭

lost python
#

huh

#

oh you edited it 👀

shell coyote
#

honestly Potato

#

youre mod is a must

#

for LC experience

#

same with LGU

barren rover
#

Every other multiplayer mod is like wildly unstable in comparison

shell coyote
#

my only ever problem -incase it happens- is bugs with AC

#

cause like its sometimes very stressing to tell 7 people to wait till bug fix

#

in middle of the game

grizzled root
#

@solid pivot can't buy Helmet Lamp on Terminal ( not Personal Terminal ) and the Discount from Item AC is broken said 50% but still pay original
ex: Headset = $50, discount 50% $25. when wanna buy still pay $50

solid pivot
#

?

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I dont quite get it tbh

#

Did the personal terminal show the discount?

grizzled root
#

personal terminal discount is work

#

but on terminal no

solid pivot
#

Only with AC items?

grizzled root
#

yes

solid pivot
#

cant be

#

All items are treated equally in code

grizzled root
#

hmm maybe conflict uncertain company?

solid pivot
#

if (node.buyItemIndex != -1)
{
if (node.buyItemIndex != -7)
{
totalCostOfItems = (int)((float)buyableItemsList[node.buyItemIndex].creditsWorth * ((float)itemSalesPercentages[node.buyItemIndex] / 100f) * (float)playerDefinedAmount);
}
else
{
totalCostOfItems = (int)((float)node.itemCost * ((float)itemSalesPercentages[node.buyItemIndex] / 100f) * (float)playerDefinedAmount);
}
}

#

thats the vanilla game code

grizzled root
#

because uncertain company can make Discount Increase (-xx%) or Decrease (xx%)

solid pivot
#

dunno

#

🤷‍♂️

#

Found nobody playing with AC on twitch once again ._. I guess the players just dont deserve AC 🤷‍♂️

grizzled root
#

There are many reasons why no one uses AC. because too much is customized (that's my opinion)

solid pivot
#

Yea, sure. Playing with 150 mods is so much less customized :3

#

150 mods is just so close to vanilla :'D

barren rover
#

U can disable everything and just play with vanilla settings if inclined

grizzled root
#

almost override all

barren rover
#

Ive got 140mods and everything seems to play pretty nice

grizzled root
#

because u dont care about quality for playing vanilla

#

i mean like somebody wanna play lethal company like vanilla but not many custom and overpower item

barren rover
#

I pretty strictly curate and configure everything lol

barren rover
grizzled root
#

Like i dont like LethalConfig because i can Changes the config using .cfg [ Text Editor ]
but for Thunderstore App / R2Mods that Mods (LethalConfig) is best

solid pivot
#

No other mod is as non-invasive as AC :3

#

Most patches are by now transpilers

#

50%

#

Gold standard for modding

barren rover
ornate zealot
#

What do yall mean nobody uses AC??

grizzled root
#

man LethalConfig and AC different.
LethalConfig almost can change everything Mods, but i dont wanna add LethalConfig because not all mods can sync and need same CFG ( different config = broken game and no sync in match )

AC almost sync all maybe but AC only regist Moons, Items, Enemies

solid pivot
#

On Twitch I find nobody :3

ornate zealot
#

Dude it’s like third or fourth page on r2modman for most downloaded

solid pivot
#

I know that some specific group will soon maybe play with it tho

hearty frost
barren rover
ornate zealot
#

Just bc nobody played with it yet on twitch don’t mean nobody uses it

grizzled root
#

wtf wrong with u

barren rover
#

oh

hearty frost
ornate zealot
barren rover
hearty frost
#

mans wants a config for thier 100+ mods when AC does all that

solid pivot
#

Imagine AC now having cfg files

grizzled root
solid pivot
#

Have fun managing 2000 configuration values

hearty frost
solid pivot
#

AC is balanced imho from the get go

#

It aims to make the game longer tho

barren rover
#

U can have many mods and preserve the vanilla feeling if u mess with cfgs enough

hearty frost
#

Literally General Improvements + Advanced Company is all you need for Enhanced Vanilla

#

But I forgot...

#

Broken mod stupid, don't use..... KEK

solid pivot
#

But when I have the curve editor I will also add quota stuff. So you can make it increase faster

barren rover
#

for example the better spraypaint mod, u can disable infinite spraypaint, and then it just generally improves how they function, and fixes a well known bug

solid pivot
#

xD

#

Experts

#

gotta love them

barren rover
#

I dont get it 😭 My modpack falls flat when i use any other big lobby mod

hearty frost
#

"Friend said not to use it, don't work. Therefor don't work" - Expert 2024

solid pivot
#

I've heard advanced company has lots of mod incompabilities so im not using it.

ornate zealot
#

I got 71 mods in my modpack rn

hearty frost
ornate zealot
#

Havr yet to encounter any

barren rover
#

"Advanced company bad, it came to me in a dream"

solid pivot
#

AC is submissive in most cases

wintry quail
solid pivot
#

If another mod overwrites stuff, AC wont do what it wants to do

hearty frost
#

I put AC up against about 130+ mods, only a handful had some issues and even then some tweaking fixes those issues.

hearty frost
wintry quail
#

Puts me in the minority, actually checking and removing overlap via configs

barren rover
#

What mods are people using that are incompatible that dont just aim to replicate some feature that AC already implements

#

Are these incompatible mods in the room with us?

hearty frost
#

It's like these people are same who put petrol in diesel cars

barren rover
#

unrelated but speaking of that, why tf does every other country switch the green and black color of the gas pump

wintry quail
barren rover
#

U cant handle me at my russet u dont deserve me at my yam

hearty frost
#

I actually didn't realise how big yams could get until yesterday xD

barren rover
#

I think making the ship land 250% slower by default is optimal

hearty frost
#

This is change I am planning on making too, I want the ship speed upgrade to be more meaningful as it drops down fastish by default anyway and it will be more "cinematic" a guess landing down into death

#

and the getaway will be more intense too

barren rover
#

I do it because it gives monsters more time to get in after u flip the lever 😭

hearty frost
#

xD precisely 😉

barren rover
#

I think it draws more attention to the perks menu without me having to tell about it if i make every stat below its vanilla value and have the first upgrade be cheap

solid pivot
#

Soon I can show something nice

hearty frost
#

😳

#

Also Rabbit Ears are chaos when you got masked running after you xD

#

use with caution xD

#

bruh xD

solid pivot
#

Are you my bunny?

#

🐰

#

Hop hop!

#

Jump!

#

Nobody will realize that I made it so that you can jump on slopes :3

solid pivot
#

Good bunny

#

Hypuuuu

#

Some people would say

#

Having a bullet time effect in a multiplayer game is not possible

#

I beg to differ

#

:3

#

Hint hint

hearty frost
#

👀

solid pivot
#

Recommended potatoe settings

#

🤣

#

I might also add Starting Moon to the Start settings

#

So you can start on Titan :3

hearty frost
#

Actually this is an amazing change 👀 Like really would love to be able to change starting moon :3 My only question is will these settings be togglable? i.e. if using GeneralImprovements and/or stuff like SavageCompany?

#

Max enemy power 1000 haha just noticed xD Dangerlands!

solid pivot
#

Which options are a problem?

hearty frost
#

I don't know if they a problem, general improvements has 2 credit settings which are 1 per player and minimum overall starting credits.

#

SavageCompany changes stuff on fly so probs okay?

solid pivot
#

dunno, we have to find out :D

hearty frost
#

We will indeeeed 😄

#

I know Atlas Abyss gonna be my starting moon already :3

#

KEKW xD

solid pivot
#

🤣

hearty frost
#

Gotta stick a hint in somewhere saying "I'm breaking all your mods ;)" xD

barren rover
#

[Message:AdvancedCompany] I've heard advanced company has lots of mod incompabilities so im not using it.

solid pivot
#

I will totally do this

#

as an error

hearty frost
#

100% got to do it xD

barren rover
#

lmao

solid pivot
#

Log.LogError(""I've heard advanced company has lots of mod incompabilities so im not using it." - Someone");

hearty frost
#

They gonna feel famous when they read it 🤓 🤣

ornate zealot
#

So like other people can put mods that they know are compatible/incompatible in the list?

barren rover
#

It would appear typing any furniture item into the personal terminal would prompt that it was already bought

solid pivot
#

No

#

you can tell me what to change

ornate zealot
#

hm

#

Alr

#

Probably when i get home, i can give like an extensive list

#

But i’m at school so i can only name some off the top of my head

solid pivot
#

QuotaRollover wont create problems any longer btw

vivid vigil
#

you didn't escape the second pair of quotes

solid pivot
#

Yea, I did. Discord doesnt show it

vivid vigil
solid pivot
hearty frost
#

I've been haunted

solid pivot
#

:3

#

Be my bunny

#

jump jump

vivid vigil
#

Oh also may I ask why the mod isn't on github?

solid pivot
#

Because I am the copyright owner

hearty frost
#

ON MY WAY

solid pivot
#

And I decided so

vivid vigil
#

Alrigt

#

Alright*

solid pivot
#

:)

vivid vigil
hearty frost
solid pivot
#

Is the volume of the sound OK btw?

valid flume
solid pivot
#

I know some popular streamers might play the mod soon

vivid vigil
solid pivot
#

So better adjust the volumes to not kill their ears

hearty frost
valid flume
#

thx

hearty frost
#

The Volume could town down a little but nothing too crazy!

hearty frost
hearty frost
vivid vigil
hearty frost
#

and put LOD to 2.

#

I turn PP off so I can see Reynolds face better or higher res stuff don't look funky, currently havn't put textures back in or Ryan 😄

stark berry
shell coyote
hearty frost
hearty frost
stark berry
hearty frost
stark berry
hearty frost
ancient sand
#

Btw your mod it's being used by The most lethal company and it's fucking awesome

stark berry
#

i use HD so i can turn my modpack only using 2.5GB RAM

ancient sand
#

I can't play without ur mod tbh adds so much fun

stark berry
#

since moresuit really consume alot of RAM

hearty frost
#

I mean Emotes also consume RAM and CPU too 😛

ancient sand
#

RAM shouldn't be a problem at 2024, but it's true some people have potato PC with 8GB

stark berry
#

rn i compress every suit to 512x512 to make it more low

#

lmao

#

make 1gb ram to 300mb ram

#

since they save suit in memory that's why use more ram

shell coyote
#

@solid pivot

#

is jump height changes your doing or?

solid pivot
#

?

shell coyote
#

hmm

hearty frost
#

I mean with suit saver, emotes and moresuits + AC I am using like 3.5gb Ram

stark berry
#

lethalemotesapi + badasscompany use 2gb ram insane

barren rover
#

I bought 32gb ram im gonna use 32gb of ram damnit

stark berry
hearty frost
barren rover
#

The suits use more ram than they take up storage on hard-drive?

hearty frost
#

CPU usage is another thing though, some of these mods like the CPU really tasty

shell coyote
#

it seems like its halved

#

odd issue

hearty frost
#

Also this is your best friend. Especially if you stream.

barren rover
#

Newest version of immersive scraps is perfectly compatible with AC on newest hotfix

solid pivot
#

Dont change jump height perk base value to 50% if you dont want it to be halved? 🤷‍♂️

hearty frost
devout owl
#

is there a way to make my stats get destroyed during ship reset through the settings?

barren rover
#

ur perk progression?

solid pivot
#

🤣

#

10% scram value multiplier and 10% scrap amount multiplier

hearty frost
#

Showertime :3 then theeeeeee company

barren rover
solid pivot
#

1.1.0 Beta 9 Hotfix 4 (1.0.133)

  • Fixed a bug which prevented entering float values into probability fields.
  • Added new configs for headset, helmet lamp, tactical helmet and flippers.
  • Fixed a bug which prevented Travel discount from working
  • Added new game config tab with new options:
    • Starting credits
    • Global scrap value multiplier
    • Global scrap amount multiplier
    • Global enemy max power multiplier
    • Activate portable terminal (you wont have access to perks when deactivated)
    • Deadline length
  • Changed the way XP are given to make it compatible with QuotaRollover
solid pivot
#

🤷‍♂️

#

When its 100, the calculation formula is as follows

#

force += jumpForce * 1

#

So I am not halving it

shell coyote
#

idk the reason why this happens

#

its just odd

simple fossil
#

Is it possible to get starting credits per player and make a minimum starting credits if using that setting?

solid pivot
#

it indeed is

shell coyote
#

its like realistic jump height

solid pivot
#

starting credits per player? What do you mean?

#

Credits are group based

simple fossil
#

Like if one player than 15 credits, 2 players 30, and so on

solid pivot
#

Not yet, will be possible when I add the curve editor

ancient sand
#

Let's go new things, thanks 🙏🙏🙏❤️

simple fossil
solid pivot
#

Player scaling will be a thing later

#

Starting credits wont be part of it I think tho as I would have to remove credits when players are leaving etc.

#

And every round starts with exactly 1 player

simple fossil
#

How does GenralImprovements do it?

solid pivot
#

I guess they add and remove credits? :P

#

A round starts with 1 player

simple fossil
#

Or will general improvements starting credits be compatible

solid pivot
#

Probably

#

Try it

simple fossil
#

I will when I have time

#

I know before this most recent update it would always work atleast

wintry quail
solid pivot
#

:3

barren rover
wraith totem
solid pivot
#

Global value multiplier is 0.4

barren rover
#

by default?

solid pivot
#

Yea, vanilla

#

I can however show the correct value in the future

#

With the 0.4 multiplier

#

And let you enter them with that in mind

#

If you enter 100, I save 250

#

So 250 * 0.4 = 100

barren rover
wraith totem
#

then it’s useless

barren rover
#

well not really lol, most of the time it would probably be accurate

solid pivot
#

Problem is that some people might abuse a system like this

wraith totem
#

as in, no one will notice it if it’s just a small indicator

barren rover
#

Why would someone bother botting it if its just a little indicator or mildly worded warning message

solid pivot
#

Its the same with reports on Twitch etc.
Usually you do systems like this in a manner where it goes up on a list for a moderator to manually check :D

wraith totem
#

It’s either a blocking action which is abusable, or it’s indicated but kinda useless

solid pivot
#

But who checks compabilities of mods and who pays them? :P

#

AND

#

a update can change compability

barren rover
#

It would reset every update

shell coyote
#

potato

#

I don't wanna point finger on you but

solid pivot
#

Which would make it useless for AC

#

as it updates daily

shell coyote
#

it seems jumping height is bugged

solid pivot
#

Its working for me?

wraith totem
vivid vigil
shell coyote
#

its always same no matter what config

solid pivot
#

no

shell coyote
#

and its also halved like

solid pivot
#

no, no and no

shell coyote
#

not vanilla

solid pivot
#

People shat on my mod

#

Because I did stuff with the terminal

vivid vigil
#

ok

solid pivot
#

it once was in there, I removed it and developed my own terminal

vivid vigil
wintry quail
#

"Fine I'll do it myself"

solid pivot
#

Exactly

#

If they dont want me meddling with their holy terminal

#

I wont

vivid vigil
#

It took me like an hour to realize it was moved into the portable terminal because I didn't read the changelog 😭

solid pivot
#

Its in the readme

wintry quail
#

Very funny it's still written like so in the Thunderstore page though

barren rover
#

maybe you should name the file PLEASE_READ_ME.TXT

solid pivot
wintry quail
#

Without mentioning the new terminal

solid pivot
#

There is a gif underneath it

#

Pictures tell more than 1000 words

vivid vigil
solid pivot
#

yes

#

The one you can see here

vivid vigil
#

yeah that was before it got updated

solid pivot
#

Yes, I addressed that issue

#

I would love for the Thunderstore wiki to give me the ability to create sub pages

wintry quail
#

New legacy data just dropped lol.

solid pivot
#

:<

wintry quail
#

Refresh fixed this bug

solid pivot
#

lol

vivid vigil
solid pivot
#

Might do but writing readme and documentation takes time

vivid vigil
#

yeah I understand

wintry quail
#

"Hire" the community to do it for you :p

solid pivot
#

Can you do sub pages in github wiki?

wintry quail
#

We love the Company don't we

solid pivot
#

Oh, you can do a custom sidebar

#

To give the illusion of sub pages

barren rover
#

Why does R2MODMAN become to grueling after it gets like 120mods listed

wintry quail
#

You should use the mod called Advanced Company, I hear it has like 10 mod features in one

#

Should make your modlist smaller

barren rover
#

1.4GB 😭

wintry quail
#

Sounds like pain

barren rover
#

Its all tied up in a single 12k textured 90,000 polygon piece of scrap

wintry quail
#

why

barren rover
#

im kidding, theres like 8 moons or something

wintry quail
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Someone out here to compile the polygons on MGS1 into one scrap

wintry quail
barren rover
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Painstakingly carved out a loot pool for every one after like 12 hours

solid pivot
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I dont understand russian

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found a russian streamer playing with AC :'D

wintry quail
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Your reach grows

barren rover
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its going global

solid pivot
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The russians and portuguese love AC

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Seems like they have superior taste :potatoe_pepe:

wintry quail
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Who can hate on a mod that has the features of 12 mods that won't try to murder each other (hopefully)

solid pivot
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I guess I am not a sputnik potatoe 🤷‍♂️

wintry quail
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But you could be

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Secret item

solid pivot
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Filthy americans betrayed me. For the glory of the soviets!

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My soviet brothers and sisters!

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For mother russia

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Communism tato 🤣

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*adding a communism mode to LC*

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Found a chinese person

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Dont understand a single word

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With the russians I at least understood da and niet

barren rover
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[Error :AdvancedCompany] "I've heard advanced company has lots of mod incompabilities so im not using it." - Some expert
[Info :AdvancedCompany] Booting

lmfao

solid pivot
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yea, 2 streamers

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What?

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This is a legendary statement

wintry quail
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Say, where's this new feature of adding starting credits and modifying global power?

solid pivot
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Oh wait

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Have I missed the assetbundle again?

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🤣

wintry quail
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I swear I saw it pop up once actually

barren rover
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I updated and all my config dissapeared

wintry quail
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Before I loaded in but it never appeared again

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Now I can't be sure if I'm hallucinating or not

solid pivot
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potato did an oopsie

wintry quail
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Potato added a ghost girl to the AC UI

vivid vigil
solid pivot
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1.0.134 uploaded

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with the correct assetbundle

wintry quail
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Updat-

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Why does it say 1.0.133

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Sure

barren rover
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This is the "vanilla experience" ive been looking for

wintry quail
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"I heard it has a lot of incompatabilities"

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More Company:

solid pivot
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Like missing its own updated assetbundle