Most likely LethalExpansion
#[Deprecated] Advanced Company
solid pivot
plush fern
I really wish I could keep my scrap mods but they require LE ðŸ˜
eternal ivy
What's wrong with LE?
plush fern
LE just tends to cause a lot of small-large conflicts with other mods. It's mostly cause that mod alters a lot of code. with little to no modularity.
But because so many of the moon/scrap mods use it as a dependency it's obnoxious.
solid pivot
Making all configs saveable in two formats is a pain
old glen
Is ther a bug
plush fern
Yeah I would imagine so
plush fern
are you using LE?
plush fern
There's a known bug with LE that if you exit back to main menu and you don't restart the game you can't buy any items no matter how many new saves you make.
solid pivot
Did you try to use buy like I suggested?
buy rocket
buy light
I take no feedback as "it works"
analog radish
That's good!
solid pivot
example json
Only one thing has to be fixed. You currently can rename a config to File config and this will lead to weird behaviour
And I have to test saving the file config
old glen
how do you open this menu and is ther any mods that dont work with this very very very cool mod
also do you have guys have any plans
for the future
of the mod?
old glen
oh on lan
old glen
it might be another mod
solid pivot
I am actively developing this feature right now
old glen
oh is there any mods that are incompatiblewith this mod it wont let me buy any of the items like flippers or night vision goggles
solid pivot
I already asked you to try "buy flippers"
And yes
LethalExpansion
Its causing this problem
But with this menu the game feels totally like another thing
Really a good outlook of what my game will become
olive prawn
can i wonder what mod settings mod is this
solid pivot
Its just the settings for my mod
solid pivot
I say it once again but dont want to sound narcissistic or anything
I have 7 years of professional game dev experience
So yea, it comes with experience
worthy geode
possible but i would personally not recommend it?
worthy geode
gives sprint speed, sprint endurance, jump height, actual straight up weight reduction (probably the most powerful thing), crit chance
solid pivot
Mine is better 
worthy geode
yep it has a shittier implementation of night vision
where it's kind of an armor item
you order it and pick it up and it gets permanently equipped outside of your inventory until death
solid pivot
If I am allowed to say so
worthy geode
and is activated with alt
it also just doesn't work as nice imo, although it doesn't get weirdly blocked by like... darkness blobs in the facility
do you know what I'm talking about?
worthy geode
idk when I'm in the facility often I'll walk into a room and can barely see in front of me
and then i go a step further and suddenly the way clears and i can see much further
worthy geode
it's like there's congealed darkness that gets blown away by getting closer
worthy geode
nah it's like 2ft away
solid pivot
If I increase that the fog outside wont be as strong either
worthy geode
i can't see in front of me sometimes
plush fern
The only mod I can think of that affects darkness is diversity
worthy geode
it's so weird though, i don't know why it's there
i don't play with anything meaningful except AC
solid pivot
dunno what you mean tbh
worthy geode
got like... fumo, LCBetterSave, etc. Random client sides that don't do much
if there was the darkness blob there I couldn't see the wall
solid pivot
darkness blob?
worthy geode
tends to happen in long straight areas
plush fern
if there was the darkness blob there I couldn't see the wall
Hold on I know what it is
eternal ivy
Do you have Diversity installed?
worthy geode
no, i don't have diversity installed
plush fern
It's from the valve's
solid pivot
you can see through the steam tho with the nightvision
worthy geode
yes steam i can see straight through
it isn't steam
it goes away when you get close
plush fern
Yes but from a certain distance the steam looks like a dark blob with the nightvision
worthy geode
no not steam
like nightvision off there's still nothing there after I walk through it
plush fern
Really cause I've only seen dark blobs when there was steam in an area
worthy geode
I'll try and cheat and see if I can record something
worthy geode
plush fern
Oh it seems like another light source is bouncing off the visor as you pass under it
solid pivot
lol
thats not a shadow blob
turn off the night vision
you are looking into a light with the night vision
plush fern
You could try getting a mod that removes the visor and see if that fixes it.
solid pivot
I do remove the specular of the visor
Its basically the light effect of the lamp and its indeded :D
To make it not too easy
So light is very bright
solid pivot
worthy geode
ah weird
solid pivot
Its basically an effort to balance the night vision somewhat, having something which flashlights wont have a problem with
but a night vision
I mean outside it works best when its dark too
worthy geode
it looks less like "ah im staring into a light with nightvision" and more "why is there an inpenetrable fog that recedes when I get close"
worthy geode
good
make it darker naturally too
and nerf flashlights
so you constantly alternate nightvision
solid pivot
Nah, wont change anything rn, have other problems to solve tbh :D
worthy geode
either it's too bright to use it or too dark not to use it
im joking btw i think this is hilariously bad design lol
solid pivot
Lobbys are broken
solid pivot
no
in my local version
and I mean, you have an alternative night vision out there you can use
If you prefer that
I like my night vision with less detail and with deficits
But advantages of course too. Having a totally bright room, look further in fog and see through steam
I might make light brighter tho
plush fern
I do like the seeing through steam part
solid pivot
blending your whole screen
So its very clear whats wrong
I was like a nice guy y'know?
Like: Oh I build in an overdrive protection
:3
Yay, fixe that lobby bug. Phew
worthy geode
it is still my favorite night vision was just kinda confused by the weird fog thing going on when i can very clearly see further without the night vision in those situations
solid pivot
Like I said, its intentional to reduce the power of the night vision and enable more jumpscares
The night vision itself is meant to produce more jump scares
Low battery, having you saving battery
walking in absolute darkness and turning it on for 1s and off for 2s
So you can get jumpscared by a spider :3
Or a mine
Or a turret
worthy geode
oh i just kinda leave it on
solid pivot
All other monsters are very clearly hearable in all states
worthy geode
even without battery upgrades i end up making frequent enough ship trips
solid pivot
If a monster stands behinds those lights, it can jumpscare you :D
worthy geode
spiders don't usually chill in those areas
solid pivot
thats true :D
worthy geode
mines and turrets are fair ig
solid pivot
But never know what monsters will come in patches
worthy geode
i don't think i've been jumped by one in that fog but i could totally see running into that area and suddenly seeing a turret down the hall
solid pivot
Flowerman might scare you :3
worthy geode
nah if I'm looking at him down the hall he'll make noise
he'd just run up behind
bracken is honestly the most manageable monster I think
meager cradle
I got jumped by a turret in a cloud, was p bs
worthy geode
if I'm not actively distracted by a coilhead or fighting a nutcracker i almost never get got by a bracken
and brackens are 3 power units, it's great
that's like 3 less coilheads or nutcrackers to deal with
meager cradle
Pretty reasonable that Bracken's a 3p enemy, it takes up some of your time exploring so you don't get hit by the rice crispies
worthy geode
not much tbh
im just cranking 360s while running around
hell i can do it while sprinting
and not get lost
hell bunker spider is a 3p too
bunker spider is a joke
its so odd that the least dangerous enemies are way less power and way lower cap than the most dangerous
meager cradle
It's not of a tier of a Coil Head yeah but it is an enemy that can got you if you have no clue that it exists
worthy geode
well yeah that's true of all enemies
except spore lizard
spore lizard is a good puppy :)
although i guess even spore lizard panics new people into running off cliffs or into mines
meager cradle
Another one that's power 3 is a Jester and it's deserving of that spot lmao
worthy geode
jester absolutely deserves 3p
it's so oppressive
i think the monster i hate most of all is ghost girl
at least jester highly encourages not getting lost
ghost girl is just fuck you stop playing
go sit on the ship and don't you dare turn around
solid pivot
Good. People didnt notice
alpine charm
alpine charm
also, i forgot. did this mod comp with lategame upgrades mod?, i mean bruh it's 11/12 wit this mod
solid pivot
Somebody told me its not compatible
solid pivot
Just so everybody saw it 👀
But I will sleep now :D
And yesh, you will be able to change your cosmetics while in-game
You can also create presets
And I might add my own LateCompany solution too in the next update
Next update's gonna be huge
You wont be able to use the standard cosmetics of MoreCompany tho as they pack it all into a single DLL :)
After that update and when all bugs are fixed I am fully concentrated on 1.1
Thats all I want to do for 1.0
analog radish
That looks dope
solid pivot
:)
hallow mortar
THE MORECOMPANY COSMETIC MODS WORK LETS GOOOOOOOO
plush fern
Wait who said lategame upgrades wasn't compatible? I use that with this and have no problems. Granted I adjusted the config to disable all the overlapping upgrades from lategame upgrades.
meager cradle
I think that was prob the issue, you ideally want to go into the config and disable any overlapping features
stiff galleon
OK it's time to say goodbye to morecompany
It was ma good mate,but its time has come
bleak frigate
nova ingot
sharp pollen
When will the underwear be shown?
eternal ivy
I assume you're going to forcefully disable all MC functionality except cosmetic one? Because all the additional ones will still have MC as a dependency.
sonic vale
can i ignore those errors?
looks like it's conflict between diversity and advanced company
solid pivot
When will the underwear be shown?
Its hip
sharp pollen
outside thong would be mildly funny
solid pivot
xD
sharp pollen
you should add more silly item btw
like a squeaky slipper
i just got some ideal after showing
an eletric suit that discharge on damage contact
reusable but only once
deal 2 shovel worth of damage to an area including yourself
lethal company item theme seems to be it's good but it can also kill you like jetpack, ladder...
eternal ivy
that's like 2 items out of a dozen
solid pivot
And cant you just deactivate MoreCompany in Thunderstore or even install mods without dependencies?
eternal ivy
Disabling depndency disables all mods that depend on it.
sharp pollen
that's like 2 items out of a dozen
i saw a clip of a shotgun with safety turned off blast the owner while in the shelf so may be it's 3
eternal ivy
That's not a buyable equipment though.
worthy geode
tzp can easily get you killed if you don't know where you're going/are. Boombox can draw dogs to you. Stun grenade can help an enemy more than it helps you if used improperly. Zap gun can easily target a friend instead of an enemy and get you both killed (has happened to me). Even a walkie talkie can get you dogged if someone yells into it while you're outside.
pretty much the only equipments that I'd have a hard time saying are dangerous in any way would be flashlights, key (even this can get struck by lightning but I'm not really counting that), lockpicker, and shovel-type tools. Not counting shovels as dangerous because in 99% of circumstances the only way someone dies to a shovel is intentional friendly fire (or lightning)
solid pivot
Flashlights produce sound when turned on/off
So if something which reacts to sound is near and you dont see it and turn on/off the flashlight, it might react to it :D
Or even if you see it and dont know about that :P
But yea, would be better if enemies which can see detect the light of flashlights.
worthy geode
afaik only dogs react to sound anyway and I don't think a flashlight will do much to aggro them
meager cradle
Dogs will only usually react to flashlight clicks if they're like, literally beside you
I'm not sure if any of the other vanilla enemies even see/react to flashlights
The only enemy rn that I can think that even does anything like that is a WIP modded enemy lols
fair delta
Thought I'd let you and anyone else interested know in case you receive any bug reports that there's a conflict between Advanced company and the latest two versions of Diversity 1.1.5 and 1.1.6 which is causing a lot of lag for clients in multiplayer, I made a post on the Diversity thread about it.
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solid pivot
What do you think about me changing the cosmetics system a bit?
Like
If you equip a nightvision your hat cosmetic gets hidden
If you equip a body armor your chest cosmetic gets hidden
That way it wouldnt start clipping :3
Cosmetic mods can then use my system instead which gives the cosmetic creator control to say "Dont hide on equipment"
Because like its a hat not clipping or smth
analog radish
What do you think about me changing the cosmetics system a bit?
I feel like it would be better for it to be configurable.
- Make sure the cosmetic is removed when using the garment. (for small cosmetics)
- Make sure that the cosmetic is not removed when using the garment. (for objects that do not directly interfere)
- Make the garment never appear if the cosmetic is on (for larger objects like heads)
solid pivot
I always prefer the equipment to be visible as its mechanic relevant information.
And its required for stuff like the headlamp later
Hiding equipment cant be an option :D
Only hiding cosmetics
And yea, I will make a custom component for cosmetics creators where they can say: Keep it visible when equipment is present
For bunny ears for example
They dont need to be hidden when a headlamp or night vision is visible
I can also do a bounding box check
analog radish
seems good
solid pivot
I can add some configuration in my mod for cosmetics mods which didnt convert yet
Like a simple list to set this for certain cosmetics
I can test them for clipping etc.
solid pivot
👀
fair delta
are you making your mod compatible with morecompany cosmetics or they'll have to be made for your mod?
solid pivot
fair delta
im refusing to write the answer here so everyone else is forced to read also
desert plinth
im so excited for new stuff to be added to this mod so far definitely my favorite mod 10/10
mellow fjord
@solid pivot
is there anyway to reset my perk data fully
i kinda wanna start from the start
solid pivot
btw. I'll try to implement parts of https://github.com/nesrak1/AssetsTools.NET to the mod so its able to decompress a cosmetics assetbundle and replace the assembly reference in it to my own assembly so I dont have to add a MoreCompany.dll to the mod for cosmetics to work.
This will, however, add some additional load time to cosmetics
I decompress them, alter them and feed them to unity afterwards. So it shouldnt be thaaat long
Basically I dont go into the depths of the assetbundle, only to the class references :)
There seems to be a ClassDatabaseFile
And yes, this is somewhat complex. But as always
Wanna do it right
analog radish
Good luck!
bleak frigate
i feel like flashlight battery is bugged, it doesnt increase when i use ship XP
solid pivot
Pretty sure its not bugged, might be a conflict tho
wild silo
if you're using eladsHUD it doesn't display correctly. remaining time actually drains slower than 1/s
pulsar geode
I have a quick question as I use MoreCompany because it is able to work with the reserve slot for flashlights. Do you have an alternative mod I should be using to make that work with Advanced Company?
eternal ivy
Advanced Company works with Reserved mods. It's even mentioned on AC page.
AC also has its own configurable lobby extension. 32 players by default in current version.
fair delta
64 players when?
me and my 32 other friends cant fit in a lobby so we cant play the game
unkempt dagger
will this interfere with morecompany? since this is a less downloaded mod & most people will have morecompany installed instead...
eternal ivy
AC already handles lobby extension and soon will have cosmetics too.
solid pivot
As the process of converting the assetbundles will take some time, it will be cached and done when new cosmetics files are found.
eternal ivy
yes but the other people will *also* need the mod
Obviously.
unkempt dagger
thats why im wondering if morecompany would still work because more players have that downloaded so bigger chance of the public lobby requiring morecompany
solid pivot
I mean, you can keep playing MoreCompany. But my mod has all the features of MoreCompany and more
unkempt dagger
yeah, just less users
eternal ivy
Playing random public modded lobbies is not a thing really, as everyoen needs to match mods 1:1 to avoid issues or even being able to join in the first place.
So it doesn't matter what has more users.
unkempt dagger
Playing random public modded lobbies is not a thing really, as everyoen needs to...
i find it easy to find public compatible modded lobbies
worthy geode
most lobbies are MC + client side mods
unkempt dagger
^
eternal ivy
I guess? People wouldn't make them if they did have mods that required perfect matching.
Still, there are client side mods that will not stop you from joining but are still required for everyone to have a similar experience.
For example, I think Skinwalkers is client side? It obviously wouldn't work well if not everyone has it though.
plush fern
I mean people can run skinwalkers only on their end and watch as everyone else thinks they're going crazy xD
unkempt dagger
it'll just work for the player using it from what i know, i dont use it though & dont care if someone else does
eternal ivy
Using it alone is pointless. And that's just one example out the top of my head.
unkempt dagger
you can have it installed just in case someone else uses it, or your playing with a friend in public
plush fern
The thing is nothing about that mod syncs with other people though. Spectators can't hear what the person hears and I've had moments where someone right next to me will hear something and I'll either not hear it or hear something completely different
eternal ivy
Yeah, yeah. It's not the best example.
plush fern
I just avoid the skinwalkers mod tbh
If it were a more cohesive experience and less laggy on my pc I'd reconsider
eternal ivy
@unkempt dagger install CompatibilityChecker if you haven't. Will let you see any mismatches from lobbies that you can't get into.
That is if the host has it too.
unkempt dagger
sometimes it just doesnt work for some mods & doesnt say why
worthy geode
skinwalker just doesn't work from a design perspective
pulsar geode
Advanced Company works with Reserved mods. It's even mentioned on AC page.
but the flashlight doesnt end up on the reserved alt slot unless im doing something wrong
eternal ivy
Worked when I tested. Either something else breaks it or one of the latsest updates to Reserved does.
plush fern
Reserved slots keeps updating so the issue is likely on that front
solid pivot
Another reason I'll go standalone added to the list :3
plush fern
The funniest thing is just 2 minutes ago they pushed out another update to reserved item core so yup proving my point lmao
Doesn't bother me none cause I feel it's redundant since I already have the extra slots from this. If you need more than 7 slots it really is just a skill issue at that point 😂
solid pivot
It was always a skill issue to begin with
eternal ivy
Before I started using AC I just reduced slots to 3 and had reserved for flashlight/walkie only.
The only feature I miss is flashlight/walkie attachment points for when they aren't held.
plush fern
You mean like having the flashlight on your shoulder and stuff? That always bothered me cause it would just shatter my immersion tbh
Like the flashlight would just hover over their shoulder, not very immersive imo
eternal ivy
How? Flashlights already stay on when not held in hand in vanilla.
And they are nowhere to be seen.
plush fern
You can already toggle flashlights on and off with this mod
And you can just grab the walkie toggle from renegade
plush fern
You're talking about the stuff being visible on the model when not in use yes?
I addressed that first
eternal ivy
Attachment point for a flashlight is not unrealistic. Just because it's not detailed enough (just like the game) doesn't mean it's immersion breaking. And how is it immersion breaking when flashlight already shines from nowhere in base game when not held???
plush fern
Now I;m confused, first you say I'm not answering the topic but clearly you read my first response so which is it? Nevermind I think this is going nowhere.
eternal ivy
You started talking about hotkeys which I didn't mention.
And I'm confused about how is a flashlight being visible on the body is more immersion breaking than a cone of light without a source.
I actually don't like any of the hotkey solutions for walkie/flashlight because I don't want them to be usable when both your hands aren't free.
solid pivot
First rewrite worked
AssetTools.NET uses a lot of memory tho and seems to not free it correctly
Now making it multi threadded and adding a preloader to the game
Have to think how I want to add the cache. Probably I will look if a .cosmetics file is still existing and if not I remove the cached version too
Dont want to fill up the space of people
So I will put the following files besides the .cosmetics files for a file like SIllyHat.cosmetics
SillyHat.cosmetics.md5
SillyHat.cosmetics.cache
Removing either one of those will result in the cosmetic to be recached
If the original file cant be found for .cosmetics.cache files I will remove them
👀
First step converting and caching, second step loading btw
Loading will be way faster tho
nova ingot
but the flashlight doesnt end up on the reserved alt slot unless im doing someth...
Newest update, works just fine
solid pivot
What is wrong with your hand?
nova ingot
Wym
solid pivot
It looks like its made out of glass
nova ingot
nova ingot
Let me be clear
solid pivot
All I have to figure out now is how to remove the dependency for MoreCompany
Probably gonna totally hack their mod with Harmony making it doing nothing
Prefixing all their methods
Or if possible I can use a PrePatcher
And just remove the Plugin from the MoreCompany.dll
So it isnt loaded
solid pivot
Again something just working again
Conversion and caching and loading is done
Now adding the cosmetics to the cosmetics panel :D
Whoop Whoop
cosmic meteor
Wait so as of right now do I need more company in the pack for the advanced company ro apply the cosmetic packs?
solid pivot
If you download cosmetics it will add MoreCompany but my mod will break it
So no MoreCompany any longer
Wont be compatible at all, my mod will actively break MoreCompany
To replace it
So its easy to switch, just deactive AdvancedCompany and all your cosmetics are still there
and you are using MoreCompany then
AdvancedCompany + MoreCompany wont be a thing anymore
As I have replaced all functionality and replaced all things with my own solutions
Solutions which enable you to create presets for your cosmetics, change them while in-game. Having a lobby setup, being able to adjust any lobby before starting it etc.
MoreCompany and AdvancedCompany are at that point not really compatible any more anyway
And if thats a problem for anyone: Dont use AdvancedCompany then
Its easy as that
People constantly asked me if I can add cosmetics into it, now I invested the huge amount of work. So people have to deal with the consequences of this step
I do hope this isnt a huge deal for most player
plush fern
I think that's a reasonable ask
solid pivot
Dont want to sound narcissistic but I think my solution is way superior.
plush fern
Honestly using your mod to increase my lobby size has been way more stable than morecompany on my end
solid pivot
The new end screen is way better :D
And the upcoming new death screen will be too
Placing all players at the bottom of the screen instead of them blocking the screen
plush fern
Wow now that I'm hearing that I'm amazed vanilla doesn't do it like that it already sounds better
What's the point in spectating if half your screen is clogged up lol
solid pivot
In vanilla you only have 4 players
isnt that bad as when having like 10 dead players
plush fern
That's a fair point to be made
nova ingot
Only reason most people are using more company are for the cosmetics so it's not a big ask
unkempt dagger
its also used more than biggerlobby, right?
solid pivot
I will however will also change the lobby search soon
Only showing people playing with AdvancedCompany, as you cant play on a server without it
Will conflict heavily
unkempt dagger
Only showing people playing with AdvancedCompany, as you cant play on a server w...
now that would amazing
solid pivot
Dunno how I can remove my lobbies from vanilla. Probably cant
So vanilla players are probably pretty angry :D
Connecting and instantly getting kicked
:P
I prob will just add a tag in front of the lobby name then
[AdvCmp] YourLobbyName or smth
So vanilla players know that it wont work to join
And so I can just scan for the tag :D
distant viper
I can’t stand the perk system as is. Maybe make perks use credits and add them to the ship upgrade section like the LategameUpgrades mod does?
solid pivot
Most people seem to have no problem with it
Why invest 10-20 hours of work if most people can deal with it?
solid pivot
:3
plush fern
:3
I get the sinking feeling this floaty won't keep me from drowning in flooded planets :3
solid pivot
Good night tho. Need some sleep. Will clean up the code tomorrow
Nah :D
Its purely cosmetic
plush fern
I know was just trying to make a terrible joke xD
solid pivot
Release will probably be weekend
meager cradle
As long as the 32p lobby feature is stable, I'll be happy to use it
plush fern
I personally capped it to 12 in the configs and haven't had any noticeable issues
meager cradle
Stability + upcoming cosmetic feature will be my answer to yeet MoreCompany just cause I know my friends will be happy to have the silly cosmetics to better differentiate one another
cosmic meteor
And if thats a problem for anyone: Dont use AdvancedCompany then <:potatoe_pepe:...
Nah I was just asking cuz I been out more the week and am interested in using ur mod in the long run. But current likes cosmetics so I was wondering how it would work is all.
Also is there any incompatibility with LGU?
meager cradle
Certain features between LGU and AC overlap so be sure to disable them accordingly
meager cradle
You'll want to disable either overlapping upgrades/items (LGU) OR player perks that deal with the following:
- Movement Speed
- Sprint Duration/Sprint Speed (and/or Stamina Usage)
- Night Vision (note in AC, the Night Vision Goggles item is the only thing in the head slot currently, so disabling this will yield an unused slot that takes up UI space)
- Scanner Distance
- Weight's impact on your speed
- Lightning Rod (One is a ship upgrade, e.g. the Signal Translator; the other is a standalone 2-handed item that can be deployed, but cannot be recovered when deployed.)
(While the two don't conflict due to the fact that LGU has its own shop, pick whichever of the two you prefer for your play style) - Damage increase
I'll give a quick test of how the shops for the both of these mods play out, because I've tested the mods separately, never together
meager cradle
Hm, come to think of it will AC have its own shop category like LGU handles it or will the stuff continue to populate the shop like how LethalThings does it?
hallow mortar
Don't remember if i mentioned this or if someone else has, but rebalancing the teleporters to something more reasonable like 30 second on standard teleport and 60 second on inverse instead of 10 and 210 (bizarre imo) and then adding ship upgrades to improve the cooldown would be cool
honestly you should set up a trello like lethal things so people can see what you have planned or are considering or even actively working on
plush fern
What's a trello?
hallow mortar
plush fern
Ah I see, this is my first hearing of it
pale solar
So bigger lobby will be compatible or is this mod becoming it's own (More Company/Bigger lobby) or did I miss something 🤔 || i'm slow ||
eternal ivy
This mod doesn't need BiggerLobby or MoreCompany.
Has its own lobby extension built in.
Future version will allow you to use MoreCompany cosmetics.
analog radish
So **bigger lobby** will be __compatible__ or is this mod becoming it's own (Mor...
This is already a mod that can support more than 4 players, it does not need biggerlobby nor MoreCompany
wild silo
Dont want to sound narcissistic but I think my solution is way superior.
probably more than fair tbh. Everything you've done so far with this mod is polished af. I mean just look at that cosmetics menu 👀
also perks menu is the best addition to terminal i've seen.
fair delta
@solid pivot Does extending the deadline and having a fourth day increase spawn rates over the previous day to match with the vanilla mechanic?
I think that's what this is suggesting right?
Instead of just being the same spawn rate as the last day since they are both 1 until deadline
If it doesn't already it would be a good way of helping balance the ability to extend your deadline
solid pivot
it would still be the same
stiff galleon
@solid pivot I think Damage reduction perks is not working? cause I test with spider while I'm at level 4 and there should be reduce to 60% damage so the spider damage should be 90*0.6 = 54 but after I take the damage I lost 90 HP
bright portal
You'll want to disable either overlapping upgrades/items (LGU) OR player perks t...
I think it'd be useful to just pin this temporarily so people can just easily look at this for reference
solid pivot
Then its probably a bug
stiff galleon
I'm testing with a new save
Hold on
And maybe the critical chance also not working - according to my friend
Yes
Confirmed
The perks is not working
stiff galleon
And maybe the critical chance also not working - according to my friend
I will test it later
solid pivot
Either tell me where the error is in the code or search for the conflicting mods
[HarmonyPatch(typeof(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB), "FirstEmptyItemSlot")]
[HarmonyPrefix]
public static bool FirstEmptyItemSlot(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB __instance, ref int __result)
{
__result = -1;
var grabbingObject = CurrentlyGrabbingObjectField.GetValue(__instance);
var inventorySize = Perks.InventorySlotsOf(__instance);
global::GrabbableObject checkingObject = null;
if (grabbingObject != null)
checkingObject = (global::GrabbableObject)grabbingObject;
if (checkingObject == null)
checkingObject = HoveringObject;
var currentSlotType = __instance.currentItemSlot == 7 ? InventoryType.HELMET : __instance.currentItemSlot == 8 ? InventoryType.BODY : __instance.currentItemSlot == 9 ? InventoryType.SHOES : InventoryType.INVENTORY;
if (checkingObject != null)
{
var checkingObjectType = checkingObject is Objects.Helmet ? InventoryType.HELMET : checkingObject is Objects.Body ? InventoryType.BODY : checkingObject is Objects.Boots ? InventoryType.SHOES : InventoryType.INVENTORY;
if (__instance.ItemSlots[__instance.currentItemSlot] == null && (currentSlotType == InventoryType.INVENTORY || checkingObjectType == currentSlotType))
{
__result = __instance.currentItemSlot;
}
else
{
for (int i = 0; i < inventorySize; i++)
{
if (__instance.ItemSlots[i] == null)
{
__result = i;
break;
}
}
if (__result == -1 && checkingObjectType != InventoryType.INVENTORY)
{
var clothing = (Objects.Clothing)checkingObject;
var equipmentSlot = clothing.GetEquipmentSlot();
if (__instance.ItemSlots[equipmentSlot] == null)
__result = equipmentSlot;
}
}
return false;
}
return true;
}
I dont see an error here at all
You either increased your inventory size above 7 or you have a conflicting mod
ANY mod changing inventory behaviour will be incompatible
stiff galleon
Yes 8 slot and there will be a problem with 8 slot?
Ah found an info in config nvm
solid pivot
....
stiff galleon
Sorry for that
midnight apex
I'm *pretty* sure crit works?
Crit does work. Would be awesome if there was a sound indicator when it triggered, but I can confirm it does work.
stiff galleon
Maybe my friend just unlucky but can confirm that damage reduction doesn't work
frail spruce
there a way to remove the boot slot?
solid pivot
Wont answer those questions any longer
I probably will add a config for it but it will automatically deactivate all (clothing) items of the mod
Then this question stops
Its one way or another. Cant have both worlds
solid pivot
I probably will add a config for it but it will automatically deactivate all (cl...
And this is your answer. Deactivate all clothing items and the equipment slots will be gone
You will effectively remove 50% of the mod tho
frail spruce
Damn
gleaming junco
You will effectively remove 50% of the mod tho
To be fair, 50% of your mod is still more than most other mods haha
solid pivot
Thats true
gleaming junco
You can disable half the stuff and it would still be a great mod, so I could see why people want compatibility haha
solid pivot
Disabling Equipment Slots wont affect compability :P
Mod is still handling all inventory related stuff
frail spruce
I dont mind the equipment slots, just don't want the boot slot to be there visually
gleaming junco
Disabling Equipment Slots wont affect compability :P
No like some people will want to play with 8 slots, and dont care about the clothing items. Some will not care about the slots at all but love the clothing items
Its all a personal thing is what im saying haha
I for one do like the clothing items hah
solid pivot
Clothing system will only get better when there are more items :D
Just wait for the climbing boots
Oops, leaked something again
Dumb potatoe :<
stiff galleon
To be fair, 50% of your mod is still more than most other mods haha
True. This mod is a LEGEND. and it still evolving.
solid pivot
Slopes aint stopping me
gleaming junco
@solid pivot I believe you mentioned this earlier, but if my mod has a feature that affect an animator that your mod also changes, it is impossible to get those to work together right?
solid pivot
True, sadly
You could use AnimatorOverrideController instead tho but the game constantly checks for the animator
rapid hollow
i wonder if this cosmetic pack will work when converted to AC, cause one bepin setting that needs to be turned off for the neco arc hoarding bug mod to be able to make sounds makes the cosmetics not appear
solid pivot
I can change that behaviour tho
gleaming junco
Ok yeah I'm pushing some compatibility in an update today and wanted to double check. Lucklily all the other features of my mod work with yours
solid pivot
Or was it OverrideAnimatorController? Dunno
Its sad that Unitys Animator isnt extendable at runtime
Which is the reason that for my game I will probably use another solution
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/animation/umotion-pro-animation-editor-95991
Will test this soon :D
Alternatively there is this which is a bit more basic
But shows layer editing in InspectorGUI and I doubt they parse the stuff before building like Unity does
I might add the ability for emote mods to add their animations to my controller tho with overrides later.
So you could check if AdvancedCompany is present and use that solution then :D
Basically its probably something like
AdvancedCompany.Game.Player.GetPlayer(controller).PlayOverrideAnimation("emote1", newAnimation);
With a shorthand method like
AdvancedCompany.External.PlayOverrideAnimation(controller, "emote1", newAnimation); or smth
But will let everyone know when I came up with smth
I mean, thats the RuntimeAnimationController of Unity:
[NativeHeader("Modules/Animation/RuntimeAnimatorController.h")]
[ExcludeFromObjectFactory]
[UsedByNativeCode]
public class RuntimeAnimatorController : Object
{
public extern AnimationClip[] animationClips
{
[MethodImpl(MethodImplOptions.InternalCall)]
get;
}
protected RuntimeAnimatorController()
{
}
}
All handled in engine code
Not much you can do without a lot of effort
I mean, I could buy an asset capable of it and all the stuff the game uses and implement it into the game.
But this is also a lot of effort
UMotion Pro seems to only be an editor tho
Yea, guess Ill go with Animancer for my game
GIving modders the ability to add their own animations seems to be worth the price :P
stiff galleon
Maybe my friend just unlucky but can confirm that damage reduction doesn't work
Well after killed many dogs for research purpose, can confirm that my friend is super unlucky. The critical perk is fine, only damage reduction not working.
grizzled peak
Hey is there a way to only get the items and not the special features like xp and body slots. (Specifically only really need the lightning rod). Ive checked the configs and I cant disable every single perk (strong arms) nor does it seem to be an option to disable body slots
stiff galleon
And this is your answer. Deactivate all clothing items and the equipment slots w...
@grizzled peak answer here
grizzled peak
oh i see
stiff galleon
And this answer really need to pin up
grizzled peak
do you know if theres a way to completely remove XP?
actually let me check if i did disable all of em correctly
oh my lord
nvm i am dumb i am so sorry 💀
solid pivot
Strong Arms is Critical hit chance
Dunno why somebody is basically ripping out 95% of the functionality tho
grizzled peak
this is the only mod with an actually good lightning rod 💀 late game upgrades doesnt really fit what I want it for lmao
not like any of the features i removed arent good tho, ive played with them but my group just doesnt want to deal with XP or body slots
solid pivot
stiff galleon
Looking good
meager cradle
I mean I set the inventory slot to 4 (like vanilla) and disabled the entire perk system to better acclimate the mod with my friend group
They're completely fine with the new items and the modifiers for the moon weather
solid pivot
I carefully balanced this mod to make gameplay more fun
I also tested it a long time to ensure its the most fun with vanilla settings
Its always about creating awesome moments, thats what all items and stuff is aimed at
I will help a friend with the Alliance Raid in FFXIV now tho
meager cradle
It's just I didn't want to overwhelm them with a ton of new stuff added to the game, hence why my modpack for them adds like, this, 1 new moon, and the rest are just QoLs
Some of the QoL mods I originally had got yeeted in favor of the ones AC baked in
solid pivot
And yes, I will add a server config to deactivate cosmetics
analog radish
And yes, I will add a server config to deactivate cosmetics
Thanks that's necessary sometimes
meager cradle
I do very much appreciate the robust config file so that I specifically tweak settings to fit my group's particular desires 
hallow mortar
honestly you should set up a trello like lethal things so people can see what yo...
Thoughts? 
solid pivot
I wont work on the mod that long anymore :3
1.1 is the last update
At least last major update
I will work on my own game, but yea, probably will make a Trello for that and open it up later
hallow mortar
Oh alrighty!
fair delta
I will work on my own game, but yea, probably will make a Trello for that and op...
how much will it cost
70USD pre order + expansion pass
solid pivot
$1469.69
meager cradle
lmao
solid pivot
prob 10 bucks Dunno yet
fair delta
free demo 🥺
solid pivot
Limited to 1hr
fair delta
epic games store exclusive
solid pivot
yesh
fair delta
Limited to 1hr <:potatoe_pepe:963899925786144798>
gonna make a new account and copy over my save file every hour
solid pivot
:)
analog radish
I wont work on the mod that long anymore :3
Oh, will you stop the development of the mod?
that's sad :c
solid pivot
Yea, will concentrate on my own game where I can actually do all the ideas I have
Simply not possible in this game
fair delta
Advanced company 1.2 available behind paywall
solid pivot
ESPECIALLY considering other mod conflicting
The game will always have a problems with multiple mods adding animations
At least its a pain to keep them compatible with Overrides
All mods cooking their own soup
My game wont have these problems as its made from the ground up with modding in mind.
And I think thats worth it
I plan to only create a foundation first, completely moddable and then build my own game as if I am modding it
Star maps, moons, loot, items, functionality, clothing system, etc. etc. etc.
Everything 100% moddable
Movement of the player will be switchable simply by replacing the attached MovementController
So you can add all sorts of movement
be it a jetpack or flippers like in Lethal Company
Or something totally different
Like new styles of ladders or movement options like going down a tube
And being able to accelerate with W
Or to slide left and right
analog radish
I see, dw
solid pivot
Lethal Company was never made with modding in mind :D
And it shows
I am currently hitting a wall where I can either do what others do
Adding moons
Or decide to switch over and create a fully functional modding foundation for my own game :D
And if nobody plays it, I dont really care tbh
as long as I can play it with my friends I am happy :3
This mod was, after all, made for me and my friends.
meager cradle
A game I can think up off the top of my head that was designed with modding in mind is, Starbound
Which is about the game's only saving grace lmao
solid pivot
RimWorld has a lof of stuff changed for modders too
RImWorld has soooooo many good mods
Factorio has soooooo many good mods
Big Big HUUUUGE mods
:D
one of the last things to test rn for the menus
autumn halo
well good on ya for doing all this man i hope you atleast stick around to keep it going
solid pivot
I will update the mod for new game versions if it isnt basically totally broken
solid pivot
And I might add some small items here and there when I created them for my game :P
New scrap found in my game will find its way into my mod
autumn halo
you're def already in the running for replacing biggerlobby and more company
solid pivot
Next things to change:
- Death Screen (with voice chat)
- Removing all non AdvancedCompany session from Lobbies
autumn halo
And I might add some small items here and there when I created them for my game ...
and for a game that isnt made with modding in mind it might be limiting but tapping into this community can def get you a following and therefore players for whatever game you want to make on your own time
solid pivot
After that I think I am pretty happy with the last 1.0 update
meager cradle
Kinda hoping incompatibility (the whole new shop items won't work if I load back in garbo) is fixed between AC and LE
solid pivot
1.1 update will have content in it
One thing I probably also need to do is to update the hotbar when closing the settings ingame
so you can see the change
eternal ivy
Personally, I'm happy with AC even in its current state. The only thing I would've liked changed is equipment slots. Like if they were positioned and interacted with similar to how reversed slots are. And I'll be honest, I feel like reserved slots compatibility was a waste of your time Potatoe.
eternal ivy
guess 7 slots is just not enough
worthy geode
7 slots and basically not needing a flashlight too
solid pivot
Death Screen is making progress but Ill sleep now
autumn halo
i have an issue where i quit to menu and go back into the game the night vision cant be purchased anymore
magic pasture
any plans to add some of the base game code fixes/optimizations that i noticed while scrolling and reading as a separate mod?
stiff galleon
Will damage reduction fix in the next update?
earnest depot
how does the perk xp work? i haven't been getting any xp
meager cradle
i have an issue where i quit to menu and go back into the game the night vision ...
Seems to be a problem if you have LethalExpansion on your pack, restart the entire game and it should work again
plush fern
Yeah i discovered that bug a few days ago and that's the only confirmed workaround atm
Now if LE could just stop getting into a fistfight with every other mod it'd be nice xD
autumn halo
its not le i think not really its just roundmanager
game has a lot of fucky wuckyness
lost python
how does the perk xp work? i haven't been getting any xp
You obtain XP everytime you finish quota. The amount of XP you get for both Player and Ship will be based on the quota completed (e.g. 130 quota = 130 XP)
plush fern
^ Essentially this. You only earn points once you meet quota and leave the company planet. For the first 3 planets you won't have any exp
I like this since it incentivizes and rewards actually meeting quota. Which is of course the main gameplay loop lol
pale solar
xp for killing things?
plush fern
No, you get a fixed amount of EXP per quota you meet, the only changes to how much EXP you get are how far into the quotas you go. Bigger quotas met yield more EXP. Nothing else impacts exp gain.
unkempt gust
Wb the chicken wings
unkempt gust
😦
plush fern
plush fern
I bet it was 😂
unkempt gust
It was
pale solar
How does one go about adding in custom cosmetics that people have made for MoreCompany cause i'd like to use some but don't want the dependency of Morecompany
plush fern
Not sure as the update adding cosmetics hasn't dropped yet
pale solar
Ah gotcha 😩
plush fern
iirc PotatoePet mentioned a mod update this weekend. I think it will include the cosmetics but I could be wrong
eternal ivy
Does AC affect anything related to dungeon generation or entities/scrap spawns?
solid pivot
How does one go about adding in custom cosmetics that people have made for MoreC...
You will be able to install MoreCompany hopefully and my mod will cripple it :D But you can also download it manually and put it in your plugins folder by hand. But that might not work with profiles in Thunderstore etc.
solid pivot
Does AC affect anything related to dungeon generation or entities/scrap spawns?
Scrap spawns, it adds scrap and weather modifiers
eternal ivy
Right. But without weather it should be the same?
I'm just wondering about compatability with stuff like CoomfyDungeon or various "Brutal" mods. Maybe someone with experience of using them together with AC could chime in.
solid pivot
My death screen wont show you talking when you have push to talk activated and not pressing the key and speaking
eternal ivy
So "Spectator Voice Icon Fix" wouldn't be necessary anymore with AC?
solid pivot
I guess, yea
It wouldnt work anyway :D
As I completely override the death screen
At least the voice part
solid pivot
First test with 22 boxes :D
eternal ivy
Do you recommend increasing XP multiplier when playing without progress saving?
solid pivot
Yes
I would guess 200% would be fine
You can see one box being a bit higher than the others btw :D
I try to get a better screenshot of it
stiff galleon
You can see one box being a bit higher than the others btw :D
Does it mean he is speaking?
stiff galleon
Hmm maybe you can add username at the bottom?
stiff galleon
Well agree. So we have to recognize the icon with the sound?
solid pivot
Thats one of the downsides of 32 player lobbys
stiff galleon
Well agree. So we have to recognize the icon with the sound?
Or maybe that is not very necessary ?
solid pivot
Is it that important to know the name in the death screen?
I dont feel like its a big deal tbh
stiff galleon
Hmm... Let me think about it, but maybe you are right
solid pivot
You will encounter players alive first anyway :P
stiff galleon
The icon will use steam profile icon?
stiff galleon
Well then I think that is not a big deal
And I really want to know if the damage reduction perks will fix in the next update? That perk really change the balance very well.
solid pivot
Yes, will be fixed
stiff galleon
Thanks!
solid pivot
this is the changelog for 1.0.11 so far:
1.0.11
- Fixed an error which only showed the simple death messages with Coroner
- Fixed an error with damage reduction perk
- Added lobby settings and presets
- Added client settings
- Added MoreCompany cosmetics compability
- Added custom death screen
stiff galleon
Here's my weekend plan
Get Advance company 1.0.11
Remove morecompany completely
Enjoy game with friends.
No food. No sleep. Just enjoy.
solid pivot
:P
You probably will still have MoreCompany installed tho when you use cosmetics
but my mod will cripple it
foreach (var type in types)
foreach (var method in type.methods)
method.Cripple()
basically
Transpile Empty them and prefix all methods
stiff galleon
I really can't stand with Morecompany anymore
analog radish
You probably will still have MoreCompany installed tho when you use cosmetics
so if we wanna use the cosmetics we still have to use MoreCompany
solid pivot
Yea, it will be crippled by my mod tho
stiff galleon
If I want to use cosmetics we still have to have it?
solid pivot
Unless cosmetics mod devs remove the dependency for MoreCompany
analog radish
Yea, it will be crippled by my mod tho
I see, thx
analog radish
Unless cosmetics mod devs remove the dependency for MoreCompany
I'll do that with my cosmetics
solid pivot
So ask your favorite cosmetic creators to remove the dependency :)
As the cosmetics will work with AdvancedCompany as well
stiff galleon
What about Morecompany's default cosmetics?
Still need Morecompany?
Or built in?
stiff galleon
I got it. But if I install Morecompany and I want to use your lobby extension what shoud I do?
Or does the mod will override it?
earnest lichen
Will there be a latecompany compatability or latecompany adaptation in this next patch? Or nah just wondering.
solid pivot
My mod will override MoreCompany
You wont be able to deactivate the lobby of AdvancedCompany any longer
stiff galleon
Got it
solid pivot
Probably nah, cant promise anything
rapid hollow
My mod will override MoreCompany
oh thats very handy
thanks!
not gonna need to tell anyone to change configs or uninstall
stiff galleon
Will there be a latecompany compatability or latecompany adaptation in this next...
I have to say that all mod to let people join the middle game will have high possibility to make the save broke
solid pivot
If my mod is loaded before MoreCompany I probably will just add the IncompabilityTag to MoreCompany
but sadly I cant ensure the load order
earnest lichen
Yeah I was playing it last night with latecompany and desyncs for sure happened. 6/8 of the players were experiencing it. All good
solid pivot
I could do a PrePatcher but dunno if it can access mod dlls :D
stiff galleon
Well I think you can focus on other things. I think make a compatibility patch for other mods is the lowest priority thing to do. Or maybe I'm wrong.
stiff galleon
Ah I misunderstanding that. Sorry
eternal ivy
Will there be a latecompany compatability or latecompany adaptation in this next...
Use ShipLobby instead.
solid pivot
Somebody here who did a prepatcher before?
Patch is never called
All other logs are present
stiff galleon
Finish() Calls is 0?
solid pivot
if (!type.IsSubtypeOf(typeof(BasePatcher)))
Yea
Finished with 0 calls to patch?
I guess I have to look at the v5-lts branch :D
earnest lichen
Use ShipLobby instead.
I'l give it a try thanks!
solid pivot
Seems it only gives access to managed folder files btw
stiff galleon
I think I'm gonna try to make some mods to improve my coding skill :(. Very upset that can't give any help
solid pivot
I can add this to the incompabilities but this will only work if my mod is loaded before :D
stiff galleon
So this mod have to place at the most top?
solid pivot
According to the code BepInEx will load them any way it wants tbh
I might be able to do the following
Add a prepatcher which just changes the BepInEx data
but dont know if its already loaded at that point
most likely not
stiff galleon
Does R2modman can change mod load order?
solid pivot
var sortedPlugins = Utility.TopologicalSort(dependencyDict.Keys, x => dependencyDict.TryGetValue(x, out var deps) ? deps : emptyDependencies).ToList();
It only sorts by dependencies it seems like
stiff galleon
Painful Scream
solid pivot
sadly the preloader isnt aware of the plugin config yet
stiff galleon
aware plugin config? Why the preloader have to aware config?
solid pivot
I could have removed MoreCompany that way from the loading process
I try to discover less invasive methods first
thats just good code design
Crippling a mod shouldnt be the first way to approach it
but I guess its the only way
Because of this
if (!loadedAssemblies.TryGetValue(pluginInfo.Location, out var ass))
loadedAssemblies[pluginInfo.Location] = ass = Assembly.LoadFile(pluginInfo.Location);
PluginInfos[pluginGUID] = pluginInfo;
pluginInfo.Instance = (BaseUnityPlugin)ManagerObject.AddComponent(ass.GetType(pluginInfo.TypeName));
RIP for the great design code
solid pivot
Load, set PluginInfos =>GOOOO
I have to inject my prevention between those lines
cant change loadedAssemblies to make it think it was already loaded
stiff galleon
Ah so you want to let BepInEx think the morecompany is loaded but in fact that is not loaded?
solid pivot
It seems like the mods get sorted alphabetically tho
But not entirely sure
Cant do that, have to go the cripple route sadly
[Error : BepInEx] Error loading [MoreCompany 1.7.2] : Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: method
Take this
Cripple route 
stiff galleon
cripple failed?
solid pivot
Cripple 100% successful
the loaded assembly was totally crippled
It couldnt even load
stiff galleon
Hmm I am wondering cripple a mod will cause what consequence?
solid pivot
[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
MoreCompany.MainClass.Awake () (at <1a14a2ff040c49ffae1164059c66ca7f>:0)
UnityEngine.GameObject:AddComponent(Type)
BepInEx.Bootstrap.Chainloader:Start()
UnityEngine.Rendering.HighDefinition.HDRenderPipelineAsset:OnEnable()
I need to try to cripple it when its already loaded tho
But that might be something for the preloader! :0
Wait, this is huge
Very good idea
solid pivot
I do misuse it tho. But certain circumstances requires some creative thinking
´May I introduce?
The crippler
I call it that because it actually feels a bit like boxing that poor assembly into oblivion.
yesh
stiff galleon
Crippler the destroyer
solid pivot
The "Crippler"(TM) is working
And its 100% ensured to run before MoreCompany
I sadly cant just add the incompabilities at that point as it was already checked
I dont have to be that aggressive any longer tho. It should suffice to only kill the Awake method
little lichen
Just wonder if this mod work with ShipLobby or LateCompany?
solid pivot
[Info : BepInEx] Loading [MoreCompany 1.7.2]
[Message:AdvancedCompanyPreloader] BepInEx is loading MoreCompany...
[Message:AdvancedCompanyPreloader] Removing Awake from MoreCompany! Successfully prevented MoreCompany from loading.
[Message:AdvancedCompanyPreloader] BepInEx is loading MoreCompany...
[Message:AdvancedCompanyPreloader] Removing Awake from MoreCompany! Successfully prevented MoreCompany from loading.
[Info : BepInEx] Loading [More Suits 1.3.2]
Working as intended :)
I now can extract the cosmetics of the dll too basically
As long as you have the MoreCompany.dll thats no problem
little lichen
And can you add custom keybind for use walkie-talkie like in WalkieUse and TermSpeak?
stiff galleon
Probably nah, cant promise anything
@little lichen answer here
eternal ivy
Are there issues with ShipLobby?
stiff galleon
For me. No right now
Only some player join as named Nameless
But not sure if it was Morecompany's mod
little lichen
i means, i'm ok with this lobby, but i wonder if my mates can jump up or we have to restart the lobby every time
stiff galleon
i means, i'm ok with this lobby, but i wonder if my mates can jump up or we have...
I recommend restart the lobby. For not giving any chance to break the save or the game
But u still can use mid-join mods like Shiplobby or latecompany on your own risk
little lichen
so is they work with?
stiff galleon
Yeah. Doesn't have any major bug
solid pivot
So, if you have MoreCompany installed you will get the MoreCompany default cosmetics too
So at least there is a reason to still download it
stiff galleon
But the main function is compeletly removed lol
solid pivot
yes
The mod simply doesnt load any longer
The Awake looks like this
void Awake(){}
stiff galleon
Do nothing XDD
wraith totem
Does R2modman can change mod load order?
No, you can’t configure the load order yourself so neither can the manager
meager cradle
Unfortunate
stiff galleon
Well sad. I hope it will have same function like Vortex mod manager
solid pivot
BepInEx simply doesnt allow to define load order
No mod manager will be able to due to that
I guess they will do something about it in BepInEx6
stiff galleon
BepInEx simply doesnt allow to define load order
Wondering why BepInEx dev do that. Make sure not screw up game with wrong load order?
solid pivot
Because they havent thought about it as a necessity probably.
As long as you have dependencies set up correctly its not needed actually.
But my mod wants to do something which isnt usually considered :P
Going out of the bounds of my own mod and affect other mods and patch them
stiff galleon
Isn't the load order can resolve the conflict function between mods perfectly?
solid pivot
Sometimes, yes
But it requires people to handle the load order
Not everybody is that tech savvy
stiff galleon
Actually I think this function is important for V5, Cause I see many mods conflict with others. And sometimes just use different load order can resolve the problem
solid pivot
Mod developers can add attributes to their methods to resolve 99% of all load order errors
But deactivating the complete functionality of a mod isnt something you usually have to do
I dont need to do it basically. I could ask the cosmetics devs to remove the dependency to MoreCompany
But I dont want to go from door to door :P
stiff galleon
But if they want to use MoreCompany's default cosmetics they still need it and there's no dependency problem right?
If they install other cosmetics mods that require Morecompany
sonic vale
the main problem is that mods nowadays contains too many features all-in-one
like lethal expansion for example, which is required for all moons and some items, but breaks half of the game and conflicts with many other mods
and more company too, big lobby and, for some reason, cosmetics
stiff galleon
and more company too, big lobby and, for some reason, cosmetics
Well yeah and poor tech support I think
stiff galleon
Looking good
solid pivot
Some cosmetics not working tho, dunno why xD
stiff galleon
Not working? you mean not visible? or not covertable?
solid pivot
Not working as in Unity is doing some really weird f**ked up sh*t
stiff galleon
Lol take your time to fix that problem
And I have to go to bed now It's 3AM in Taiwan
rose parcel
Give us that bus to drive around in outside to pick up the loot at the doors
solid pivot
For people wondering:
AdvancedCompany.dll has 11838 lines of code.
AdvancedCompany.Unity.dll has 19323 lines of code.
31,161 lines of code in total
solid pivot
Give us that bus to drive around in outside to pick up the loot at the doors
No bus for you!
rose parcel
I had over 200+ cosmetics on more company I took them all off cause when you use the mirror decor drops frame rates for everyone the more cosmetics you have on. It's funny I put every cosmetic on and uninstalled them all. But the game technically keeps them all on you just don't see them. So make sure to turn them all off before Uninstalling them
solid pivot
31,161 lines of code are enough
rose parcel
I need a truck to pick up all big items, make me a vehicle I see all these dope new planets that are flat and open. They need some transportation
Or an Ai you can buy in the terminal that will go pick up items outside and bring them back to the ship for you
Like guilty sparks with like a glowing beam holding the item as it brings it inside the ship.
solid pivot
I strongly advice against using stuff like the mirrors tbh
but thats up to you
Mirror effect is usually achieved by rendering the whole scene a complete second time
sonic vale
yeah, mirror mod destroyed my wife's fps
solid pivot
If it were to use RTX, yea sure, go for it
sonic vale
she has integrated gpu
solid pivot
If you have a RTX card
sonic vale
i have 3070 and perfectly okay
solid pivot
Mirror mod is basically doubling the cost of the game on the GPU
Not saying its done in a particular wrong way or anything
There isnt any other way to do it :D
I hope the mirror camera at least has a very limited far plane
To most stuff gets removed by frustrum culling
Do explaing it really quick
Thats basically frustrum culling.
All objects further away than the far plane are getting ignored for rendering
All objects closer than near plane and all objects whose bounding boxes are not inside the view angle
If the mirror doesnt set a close Far plane you can think what happens
The mirror is basically a camera looking at you and showing you what it sees
Large far plane = The game basically renders 2 whole times just for a small mirror
wraith totem
Isn't the load order can resolve the conflict function between mods perfectly?
If you’re meaning in terms of conflicting files, well the way we install mods in the manager doesn’t allow for it
One of the many benefits of subdirectories 💪
solid pivot
I think he was talking about conflicts with Prefixes etc.
Which mods can fix themself by using Harmony.After / Before
most mods dont do it tho
So people using mods could fix those by defining the load order. But BepInEx doesnt give you the ability to do so, sadly.
wraith totem
Generally just declaring something as a BepInDependency at the top of your main class means it loads after those mods
solid pivot
I think it does somehow, because it seems its loaded in alphabetical order thanks to Windows returning the files in alphabetical order
wraith totem
So it’s more of a developer defined load order
solid pivot
This ofc only applies to Windows
wraith totem
But yeah i think otherwise it’s just alphabetical on windows but shouldn’t be relied upon