Too Many Emotes

[eternal quail]

Not to mention all the weirdness that can happen when sample rates get weird, that was something we only recently fixed

oh there is also the matter of how you compress your audio

uncompressed BAE originally is a few gigs but we compressed it down so far that in the end I think its only 200mb? Our main method to prevent hitching and problems that many are familiar with from from Skinwalker mod hitches is to keep all 200mb of the highly compressed audio in memory which does sound like a huge compromise but we would rather players not have lag spikes everytime someone spams emotes as their disks spin up to try and quickly keep up with pulling audio.

The other matter is how you load that data into memory efficiently without having massive load times as your CPU tries to pump off the disk and decompress it. Originally I think BAE added a minute or so to load time but now its down to, if I recall about 3 or 4 seconds?

Audio handling is all about optimization and playing it clearly as the last thing you wanna do is lag a player or force them to wait as it could ruin a punchline they are excited to make

[scenic cave]

Well that's a lot to look forward to 😂 I wasn't expecting that much information, but it does give me a clear idea of potential issues haha, but I appreciate the response!

I guess quick question since you worked on a lot of the animation, but I have only worked a little bit with animation before, and never with animation rigging. (Coding is mainly what I do)
But I ran into the issue with the players rig builder preventing my emotes from emoting my arms and legs properly, so my solution was to disable it while emoting, and then re-enabling it when finished emoting, but sometimes re-enabling the rig builder cause the rig to get stuck in some weird shapes. It doesn't happen too much anymore, but sometimes the feet still do slightly. I was curious how you guys got around this. Did you guys end up animating the target arms and legs instead?

Anyways, I'm off to bed so if you reply, I might not see it until later, but thanks for the heads up about the audio issues!

[eternal quail]

We sidestepped the issue entirely by not touching the animator at all. We do real time rig retargeting. We inject a skeleton that temporarily does a late update parent constraint on all bones. That skeleton is what our animations play on. This allows us to keep the original animator in its vanilla state and always leave it on. This method is also how we enable using one animation for everything including enemies

This also allows "partials" where we have animations that only affect the arms or only affect the legs. Since the original animator is able to do is thing we can selectively have our parent constraints only affect some bones to allow something like the vanilla walking/jumping anim to play while you do a waving animation with one arm

This method has also (for the most part) ensured broad compatibility with all other mods that touch or alter the animator

[little goblet]

(I love this conversation) 👀 ...

[eternal quail]

The emotes api is open source though so you can read through all the madness here
https://github.com/Wet-Boys/LethalEmotesAPI/

[desert raven]

what boys?

[eternal quail]

Its our internal team name. Gemumoddo is the public facing team name

[thorny abyss]

Have anyone else has the issue where all animations disappear when landing on a moon? Can't crouch, and players can see eachother moving but there's no moving animations

[little goblet]

Mhmm... - w-

Would love to see some court hearing where they have to clarify names or terms. "And what, defendant, was the internal team name of which we're here for?" ... "W...wet boys" "Excuse me, repeat it for the jury a little louder"

[desert raven]

seems you guys oil you hair a lot then

[eternal quail]

its more in reference to all the water puns from our risk of rain 2 modding days

[little goblet]

mhm... mhm. I'm sure the jury will not attribute that to anything else.

[desert raven]

i thought it was a wet look

[little goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-26077231

[desert raven]

https://tenor.com/view/jungkook-runbts-wet-water-gif-20925304

[little goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-shoo-spray-gif-22413550

[pale goblet]

is there any way to change the default emote loadout? i miss having rock paper scissors

[desert raven]

just unlock everything lol

or set some of them to your favorites

[pale goblet]

i thought emotes got reset after starting a new game

[desert raven]

i just unlocked them all

then share

its annoying to buy them quota day

no one in the crew buys them

except me

lol

so i just unlocked it and set it to "Party Pooper" mode

you didnt change the configs?

[pale goblet]

My group likes having random emotes each run

[desert raven]

well it resets after day 0 so

you can set it up like that

but you cant change the default

[scenic cave]

Oh, very interesting. Does this work well even with different length bones for the various rigs? I have thought about something like this, but I wasn't sure it would even work. I figured that the animator prevented the bones from moving. For some reason, the thought never crossed my mind to try doing stuff like this in the late update. Maybe I could try using a similar method so I won't have to try disabling the rig builder and re-enabling it which causes issues lol.

I believe my curiosity has been sated now. Thank you! I don't intend on anything in depth like what you guys do, but I might attempt to mess around with the lateupdate method to see if I can get around that issue with the rig builder messing up the arms and the legs lol

[leaden yew]

yeah Animators move bones in Update, so anything you do in LateUpdate will override it

[eternal quail]

as for different length bones, the hands are just slightly out of place for some creatures but that adds a bit of charm

The reality is, outside of making custom animations for all enemies per emote or forcing them to stretch to a human shape (gmod style) there isn't much that can be done. At the end of the day a player is happy enough to see a fortnite or tiktok dance on an enemy and won't even notice the hands slightly out of place

[scenic cave]

By the way, this is coming from someone who doesn't normally do animations, so forgive me if I use wrong terms, or use a term wrong lol, but would it be possible to get around this issue with making a humanoid avatar for each creature instead of using the same one for all? I guess I could see how that could be difficult for some creatures if their bone structure is quite different. Or is that not too big of a concern anyways?

[eternal quail]

as a matter of fact thats exactly what we do

we just extract the model from in game with asset ripper or otherwise and humanoid it per character/enemy

[leaden yew]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Gemumoddo/EnemyInteractions/

honestly though, for the slime

doesn't work cause like, what even can you do

but yeah humanoid for all has been our motto since ror2, since it mattered a whole lot more there with every survivor having a unique skeleton/avatar

close enough is usually good enough, when you can make one animation that works on everyone

granted for Lethal Company, since the scavenger is the only main character, you can setup animations that matches it perfectly

and then let the enemies be "close enough"

[little goblet]

When you've looped 500 times and can't feel a damn thing holding onto the entire industry of teddy bears-

[brave pagoda]

My camera is bugged when using the mod

it doesn't go third person

it shows the ship from the outside from a fixed angle

this angle is always the same, no matter where my character actually is

[scenic cave]

If I were to take a stab at this, I would guess you are using corporate restructure. Not sure what that mod does, but I keep hearing from people that that mod causes this issue. People have also mentioned to replace that mod with general improvements, or something like that.

I should look into that mod though to see why this is happening, and maybe there's actually something I could do for a quick fix.

[brave pagoda]

I am using it!

on the money

[scenic cave]

Lol I have not heard about any other mod doing this, so it does seem pretty unique to corporate restructure. It's weird, because I looked at the source code briefly one time, but I was mainly looking for references to a camera or something, but I didn't see anything. But yeah, if you're fine with it, you could try disabling it and using general improvements instead. I can't say too much about the mod, I just remember people saying to use it instead of corporate restructure since they do a lot of the same things. I also have not used either of those mods, so I wouldn't know much about what they do entirely.

[brave pagoda]

if it really does bother me, then I'll do so thanks

for now it stopped after heading out to orbit

[hearty obsidian]

Bug report, don't know if this is a mod conflict but occasionally clients will be unable to send the ship to the company and the terminal will try to purchase an emote instead. The host does not have this issue.

[turbid bay]

is it possible to have the "emotes" tip in the terminal not appear when you have them all unlocked (or if you just have the Party Pooper setting enabled)

[dusk flare]

we've got a lot of mods installed and the configs and mods are synced buut
for some reason though toomanyemotes tend to somewhat "break" freezing in one position during emoting or showing wrong emotes when every player does different emotes
we've got MoreEmotes, ModelReplacementApi and MoreCompany to think what could affect that (also cosmetics from morecompany only can be seen when you are using emote from this mod somehow)

[turbid bay]

MoreEmotes notably has compatibility issues with other mods that add emotes

[desert raven]

can BaddassCompany and TooManyEmotes be in one modpack?

i want to remove MoreEmotes

[leaden yew]

yeah they work perfectly fine together

and if you ever see otherwise lemme know and I'll get on fixing it

technically anything EmoteAPI related works fine with the other emote mods, not just BAC

[dusk flare]

could this be fixed by installing betteremotes then?

[scenic cave]

Ah yes, I could actually do that. I actually thought I did at one point. I'll include this in the next update that I'm aiming for this weekend.

[turbid bay]

i've no clue! i may play with some friends later and we can try it then, unless someone else already knows

[lethal cypress]

Emote request: Peter's "Yeah!" from this clip, getting stuck, followed by the Scavenger looking around confusedly
https://youtu.be/EsSFW6nUvOE

Should be relatively easy since the Spiderman one and whatnot work, just thought it'd be a funny idea lol

[scenic cave]

I think I already have a jumping air punch emote kinda like this lol, I could just clone that one, and have that emote pause in mid air. Let me check this out when I get home

[lethal cypress]

@scenic cave So a relatively minor bug that unfortunately kills my mod's next release at the moment: The code y'all use to render cosmetics in third person but not in first person does not affect lights on said cosmetics. So the cosmetic mesh and whatnot is hidden, but the lights still show up and render in first person, which means if I for example have light-up goggles as a cosmetic, they'll be unusable (or at least painful to use). AdvancedCompany shares this bug, since I believe y'all both use similar code for rendering cosmetics in third person, but this also happens with just MoreCompany + TooManyEmotes.

I've reported this to PotatoePet as well, am unsure if there's really a fix for this since I know y'alls method involves hiding a certain cosmetic layer in first person, and the lights may not be hideable in the same way. But tis a shame cuz I wanted to add some cosmetics with minor-but-realistic lighting

The lights are technically compatible with MoreCompany alone, since MoreCompany deletes the entire cosmetic for the client

[scenic cave]

Hmm, so which mod has the light up goggles? Or is that your mod?

[lethal cypress]

Mine in development that hasn't been released. If you need the .cosmetics file for testing let me know

To be clear, the mod's been released, just not those cosmetics cuz, well, this

[scenic cave]

What is your mod exactly? And are your cosmetics using morecompany?

[lethal cypress]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1198784016262893709
In practice I use AdvancedCompany, but they're developed for MoreCompany using swipez' Cosmetic Creation Tool, yes

The cosmetics I'm trying to get lights working on are RoR2 cosmetics, Lens-Maker's Glasses and Lost Seer's Lenses in particular

[scenic cave]

Okay, so if you were so send me some cosmetics to test with, maybe I could check it out. How would I add the cosmetics in anyways?

[lethal cypress]

As well as Oracle's Goggles from Persona 5, but haven't messed with that yet

[lethal cypress]

I'll DM you

[scenic cave]

kk

[scenic cave]

I also will just post here for public record.

But I found the fix.
Along with setting the cosmetics to layer 23, I will also need to grab every light component in those objects, and add layer 23 to the culling mask. Just tested it, and the light appears while I emote, but doesn't in first person.

I'm about to push out a code revamp update soon, hopefully tomorrow, so it will be included in that update. Thanks for letting me know!

[heavy elbow]

Hello!
Is there a solution to unite this mod with More Emotes?
I would like to have one button for all emotes

Also "Sync Emotes" does nothing.
What incompatibilities does it have?

[dusk flare]

changed morecompany with advancedcompany and installed betteremotes instead of moreemotes, they still tend to freeze when group of players emotes at the same time

[desert raven]

those are different mods. unless you have a mod that can connect all.

[scenic cave]

The mod will be updated today, by the way, which restructures most of the code related to emoting. It should fix most compat issues that are still present, but I still need to test a few more things before I can push it.

As for the sync emotes part, I'm not sure what would cause that. I've never run into that issue, so maybe it's a conflict with another mod?

[desert raven]

sync is also a config right?

also are you using thunderstore or r2modman btw

[heavy elbow]

That's great! Thank you!

Yes, I'm sure this is a conflict. I wonder if someone already figured out about it

[heavy elbow]

Of course

[heavy elbow]

I tried both

Also masked man doesn't emote when it see the player (and the console says opposite)

[scenic cave]

Well, update will have to be delayed 😦 Running into a few issues, but it's too late to think correctly lol, so I need to call it a night. (hopefully tomorrow!)

[lethal cypress]

Nooo

Sadge

[scenic cave]

I will never let you update your mod!

[lethal cypress]

Sadge

It's okay, I'll likely have to wait for AdvancedCompany as well

[scenic cave]

I will update this within the hour! My gpu kinda fried last week, (new one should be here tomorrow) so I've been running on my integrated graphics for the past while, so I haven't actually played too much to test this update extensively, but it passed my simple tests. I'm counting on you guys to report bugs from this update to me 🙂

This update probably shouldn't feel too different, but I did a bunch of restructure, so it's mainly the framework that's been changed. It should be more stable now, and much easier to build upon, but I do have some fun updates incoming once this is pushed out that wouldn't have been way too hard to implement before this restructure, so keep your eyes out for them 🙂

@lethal cypress I will let you update your mod

Oh yeah, syncing emotes doesn't actually sync the time. I guess that part broke, but it'll get fixed.

[lethal cypress]

Sweet!

Will have to test in-game once it's out to see if I still have to wait for AdvancedCompany to update too

Or if your code will 'fix' theirs

[scenic cave]

My guess is that it will fix it for AC if TME is enabled. Hopefully lol

[lethal cypress]

Fair

[scenic cave]

Alright, update has been pushed! Please let me know if you guys run into bugs or strange quirks 🙂

[leaden yew]

[lethal cypress]

Will test and let you know if it works alongside AC or not

Later, unfortunately, currently tweaking my main modpack

But if it does, cosmetic time

[eternal quail]

Another gigachad on the side of realtime rigmapping

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[scenic cave]

I credited you guys for the tip 🙂
It's kind of a relief to animate a separate skeleton rather than mess with the original player's animator haha. I'm a lot less worried about compat issues with other mods now, and makes it feel like I have more freedom in general

[little snow]

how do i emote?

[scenic cave]

You should be able to open the emote with the tilde key (~), just above tab. You can change it in game if you have inpututils enabled, too

[little snow]

whats inpututils

[scenic cave]

It's just another mod that let's you change the keybinds from mods, if the mod supports it. So if you have that mod, you could change which key opens the toomanyemotes radial menu. It's not a required mod

[lethal cypress]

@scenic cave The lights are not working alongside AC still. Gonna try with just TooManyEmotes and MoreCompany now

Gotta make sure the patch got uploaded properly

[scenic cave]

Boooo

😛

It worked for me at least, and I'm pretty sure I uploaded that patch

[lethal cypress]

All good

I might have to see if I can hook into AdvancedCompany somehow and do it myself at this rate

Yeah def works without AdvancedCompany

frick

Ughhhhh

Either way, I appreciate it greatly

Gives me big hope that it can be done at all, so I have a reason to work on my mod again

[scenic cave]

If you want to make the patch yourself, you could just have some code run after the cosmetics get spawned, and get all cosmetics on the local player, and then grab all children components from those cosmetics, and set the light culling mask to something like this: light.cullingMask = 1 << 23;
Similar to the code I sent you in a dm.
I could help tomorrow if you'd like to do that. I need to head to bed for now, though

[lethal cypress]

I'd love some help, I'm not even gonna lie I'm legit pulling up modding tutorials rn but I learn better talking to someone and doing

AdvancedCompany has an API for its cosmetics, though I'm not entirely sure how to hook into it

I have amateur coding experience so I might be able to learn quickly but assistance would be a godsend

Though I imagine API changes may not be the best way to go about it since that may make it require AdvancedCompany, which I don't necessarily want. But we can discuss tomorrow

Appreciate the offer, means a ton

[summer elm]

Just gonna drop a random emote request: See Tinh

[frigid abyss]

Latest update prevented players from scrolling through hotbar. Had to rollback to previous release to fix the problem. Will update on more troubleshooting later

[plush kiln]

wow reverting it actually fix thank you. I dont know which incompatibility with other mods, but reverting seems to do the job to fix unable to scroll the hotbar and terminal

[scenic cave]

Yeah, sorry about the scrolling bug. I will fix this soon. Not sure how this one got past me

[scenic cave]

So I apparently forgot that the model replacement API mod referenced one of my methods, and I had moved that method to another class. I will probably add that method back in for the time being.

It has also come to my attention that I accidentally left out the California girls emote. I apologize for this act of terrorism, and it will be added back in soon.

[scenic cave]

Alright, hotfix should be out for the various fixes I've heard about so far.

#  1.9.1
+ Fixed issue with update 1.9.0 breaking the scrolling in game. Whoops!
+ Readded the GetCurrentlyPlayingEmote method to the PlayerPatcher temporarily so the ModelReplacementAPI mod reference for my mod won't be broken.
+ Readded the California Girl emote. I did not mean to remove it :(
+ Removed complementary emotes from the common emotes category. They should only appear in the complementary emotes loadout in the radial menu now.
+ Added checks for cases where multiples of the same emote were being imported in. Probably my fault if this happens, but the mod should continue fine, though.
+ Upon opening the emote menu for the first time each session, the favorites loadout will be defaulted if you currently have unlocked favorited emotes.

Hopefully I didn't miss anything.

[leaden yew]

California Gurls was missing for almost 14 whole hours, some actions can't be forgiven sorry 😔

[scenic cave]

I will never be able to let this one go. Too much regret

[wanton gorge]

Why is boneless gone now?

that was my favorite one to use with movement enabled 😥

[lethal cypress]

Another emote accidentally deleted?

Flip is slippin'

😜

[scenic cave]

Bruhhh

Idk why

😦

[lethal cypress]

@scenic cave What's the name of the Kazotsky Kick one

cuz I had it in my favorites and now is gone

Am wondering if it got deletus too

[desert raven]

they said they removed a lot of emotes for adjustment

the twerk is gone too

[lethal cypress]

But I loved that one :(

[scenic cave]

Which is the Kazotsky kick?

Oh, I think it's called Rushin' around or something. Is it not in there?

Wait

Squat kick

I think

I don't feel like that one should have gotten removed

I see it in there. Maybe it was called something else before. I may have renamed some emotes

[lethal cypress]

Yeah that might be why

I'll take a look

[desert raven]

we also getting more emotes?

how many emotes do we have now?

[heavy elbow]

Hello!
TooManyEmotes causes the player to render on the ship screen as a dot

[summer elm]

Not the only mod that causes that.

[heavy elbow]

Hm?

[desert raven]

the way I fixed that was using ModelReplacementAPI

the model renders afterwards

dunno why either

[lethal cypress]

Do you have to use a replaced model, or does it work even with vanilla Scavenger still?

If the latter I might add it to the pack for the sake of bugfix

[desert raven]

i dont use any replacement models

they tend to break with cosmetics

i dunno why but we have a lot of desync when combining both

[lethal cypress]

Yeah, makes sense

So you just use it to make people show up on the cams?

[desert raven]

moreheads and more tails + the female scav will sometimes break your inventory stuff

yeah

[lethal cypress]

Interesting

[desert raven]

i just use it for the camera really

im not the only one using it like that

others encountered it and end up with the same solution

dunno how they end up with it tho. meanwhile i only realised it cuz i removed Female Scavenger. cuz of desync

and the player no longer render on the camera

added it back and saw myself on the cams

i thought it was the emotes at first. but i didnt touch it

[misty dove]

about 5 emotes are all the exact same

like act natural and it was prickly or smth, both the same emote

Aeriobatics and i think Work It are also the same meote

dont know alot of the names properly

[hidden horizon]

Idk but this mod is bug i think, i installed it and the camera was on other side of the map and the emotes when i use any emotes is like he is dancing the default only

[hushed sail]

is there a known incompatibility with some mod that causes every emote to be the default dance?

[exotic pond]

It might be a bug with the newest version, have you tried downgrading to the previous release?

[hushed sail]

i'll try now

[exotic pond]

The newest version was just a compatibility fix for LCVR if people use it, you could try downgrading to 1.9.1 and if it works then let flip know let me see if it bugs for me as well cus I know 1.9.1 worked

Yeah 1.9.2 is just busted

@scenic cave 1.9.2 has a major bug that causes every emote to be the default dance

[hushed sail]

yeah it works with previous version

[exotic pond]

This also explains why I had a mimic walk up to me earlier not emoting and it said sync emote

XD

[scenic cave]

@exotic pond Wait, really? I shouldn't have changed anything that would have broken that. I just woke up, so let me go take a look.

I could have done a goof, who knows

[exotic pond]

Probably

1 line of code isn't initiating properly

Most likely

☠️

[scenic cave]

Does it do this for yourself? Or only for other players emoting?

[hushed sail]

the screenshots i sent were me emoting

[exotic pond]

I never had other people test it, but it happened for me myself

and as I said I had a mimic spawn on Rend and I think it tried to emote cus the sync emote popup was there but it was just standing in place staring at me

Lol

Me experiencing the same issue btw XD

I tried doing 3 different emotes

[heavy elbow]

The same issue with the latest update.
It was fine on the previous version

[exotic pond]

That makes me wonder @scenic cave why can't a masked enemy do the default dance? XD

[languid oasis]

it has been happening to me as well now

i dont know why

[exotic pond]

It's a bug with the newest version if you'd read the comments

Downgrade to 1.9.1 or wait for flip's fix as he's looking into it

[scenic cave]

I apparently mixed up some of my testing files last night that broke the emoting part.
😦
But should be good now on 1.9.3 (I actually tested it before pushing it this time)

[exotic pond]

Oof it happens it happens

Lemme guess you were tired when you pushed 1.9.2?

:3

I remember one of your Reserved mods breaking a while back and it was a simple fix when you woke up as well

Speaking of, would the functionality where Walkies and Flashlights appear on the model work without Core? I really want that functionality when using the flashlights and walkies in AC

But I somehow feel like it wouldn't work lol

Yeah no they don't even wake up without it ☠️ got curious and tested it XD

[hushed sail]

some emotes glitch out some MoreCompany's cosmetics. not a major issue.

[gaunt bridge]

Does anybody else have this error spammed in their logs whenever you use your scroll wheel to switch through emote pages? It's been a constant thing for me since the 1.9.0 update

[exotic pond]

@scenic cave Any chance you could fix the issue of not being able to see yourself on the internal ship camera while using this mod?

[exotic pond]

I think this is a bug with MoreCompany explicitly, as I've not had cosmetics breaking while using AC

[hushed sail]

some cosmetics that are not attached to the player's body get glitched like in the video

[gaunt bridge]

Mhm, same as me

[exotic pond]

MoreCompany has had a lot of weird issues since the 1.8.0 release, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if MC borked something

[hushed sail]

have you tried such cosmetics? maybe jojo's

[exotic pond]

I have not

[scenic cave]

Let me look into this. Is anything actually breaking? Or is it just spamming that?

[hushed sail]

maybe that's why then lmao. it's not a major issue. just leave it i guess

[cyan rampart]

Can't scroll back to previous pages because of this. It'll just keep scrolling forward even if you try going backwards

[gaunt bridge]

I haven't noticed anything actually breaking except not being able to scroll backward

[hushed sail]

i also saw a few of the same error.

but it doesn't spam for me

happens every now and then

[gaunt bridge]

Another thing that I just noticed after some testing, masked always produce this error whenever they spawn naturally

This also doesn't noticeably break anything for me

[scenic cave]

So neither of those errors should have broke anything. The first error was actually a debug message that I forgot to remove, but not being able to scroll backwards I think is unrelated. I will test this soon, though!
The second error can be ignored, but I shouldn't make it spam like that. I will likely remove that log, or at least only complain when it initially maps the bones (which I thought that's what it did. I'll have to check)

Thanks for letting me know about those issues!

[scenic cave]

Btw, were those errors about failing to find player bone spamming?

[gaunt bridge]

no, only when a masked would spawn is when it popped up

[jade urchin]

I cant roate my character when I press the keybind

[little goblet]

I am losin' my mind over a barrage of issues that seem to have no source whatsoever... but this one I can't even state is this mod or not. And the only reason why is I see this in the log [image 3]

Nothing else jumps out. The camera gets stuck to some default position

doing an emote and canceling it fixes this ... but the hell is causing it? >~>

[patent knoll]

So... did anyone report that reversing the scrolling is broken?

When ReverseEmoteWheelScrollDirection is enabled, scrolling up or down always advanced a site instead of scrolling back 😄

[hushed sail]

#1184362437550555176 message #1184362437550555176 message

[scenic cave]

I'm currently getting over a sickness, but I'd like to get this fixed tomorrow! Maybe I'll get a headstart and look to see what might be causing it

[scenic cave]

That error is fine. It shouldn't really be an error, but it will be removed in my next batch of fixes. As for the camera issue, is this the issue with the corporate restructure mod? Or are you not running that mod?

[little goblet]

"the issue with the corporate restructure mod".... please don't be tellin' me this bloody restructure mod does something to the camera

[scenic cave]

The weird thing is, is that I couldn't find any reference to cameras the last time I checked the decompiled code, but it's apparently an actual thing happening, and I haven't investigated too much to find out why

[little goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[scenic cave]

I'll have to double check soon to see what actually is the issue lol, so weird

[little goblet]

I will genuinely lose my shit if Corporate Restructure, the mod that adds informational monitors to the ship, and that's it - touches anything but the damn ship.

[scenic cave]

I'm taking another go at this lol. I literally see nothing about Camera, setting the position/rotation of anything relevent, no harmony patch methods that I can think of that would get triggered when the player performs an emote, (I don't think), or even anything obvious that would be causing this. I'm mainly skimming through searching for keywords, so I haven't actually went through the code line by line until I found the issue. Maybe if I'm bored enough, I will, but so far, no parts of the code look suspiscious.

Actually, it's not a crazy amount of code. Maybe I'll do a deep search now

[scenic cave]

I literally cannot see anything that might be causing this issue.
I might have to test the mod out myself to see if all of my components still exist, such as the emote camera pivot, check the location of the camera, etc.

[little goblet]

I mean, there are quite the handful of mods... and personally - it's this one specific map where this issue happens

Which is shown here

both- the camera issue, and the name of the map.

Every other map doesn't do this weird camera issue, so maybe if possible - check the map's code

Good news is

doing one of your emotes fixes it

because it snaps the camera to where it tries to show you emoting, and then cancelling it just returns the view

so it isn't that game breaking.... but ... ye know - I'd like this bug to never start to begin with -w -'

[lusty canopy]

syncing emotes with someone doesn’t sync it to the exact time of the emote anymore

[scenic cave]

lmaooo, didn't see your message, but I was just came here to tell everyone I just fixed this issue. Good timing.

It will be included in the next update. Hoping for tomorrow since it's president's day, and I got the day off haha

[scenic cave]

So.... Corporate Restructure causes an error that prevents the game's SpawnPlayerAnimation from running, which I hooked onto to ResetCamera settings. Why they haven't fixed this error for so long? No idea. I created a work around, so this issue should be fixed in the next update. (1.9.4)

The error that breaks things and prevents the SpawnPlayerAnimation method from running.

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
CorporateRestructure.Component.CreditMonitor.UpdateMonitor () (at <145f04274b9a4d6b9e59d1553ca40844>:IL_0000)
CorporateRestructure.Patch.MonitorPatch.OnPlayerConenct () (at <145f04274b9a4d6b9e59d1553ca40844>:IL_0000)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::ConnectClientToPlayerObject>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::Update>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)

[exotic pond]

CorporateRestructure is a mid mod anyway

Just use GI and CorporateRestructureWeather

Problem solved

[scenic cave]

Also fixed the issue with not being able to scroll backwards in the emote menu when reversing the scroll direction of the menu in the config.

[scenic cave]

Trying to push the update with the main bug fixes right now, but running into another issue that needs to get fixed first, so it will be delayed 😦

[keen citrus]

Try weather tweaks instead. Fixes the weather desync and has some cool features.
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mrov/WeatherTweaks/

[exotic pond]

I've never had desyncs using CorporateRestructureWeather

All it does is change the way it shows up on the main monitor

[exotic pond]

Only time I had Weather Desyncs and stuff I think was caused by this mod https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/ASmolBoy/Intro_Company_Speech_Extended_Remix/ cus it breaks the game in a ton of ways

I don't use custom moons or anything

[keen citrus]

I have never used that mod. The weather desync is usually on modded moons.

[desert raven]

all intro speech breaks if they are directly added via bepinEx

tried it.

tested every intro speech

and it was the same result

desync galore

one reason why i asked LethalResonance to have one. cuz they are using a proper dependency and now they have a newer api

[sturdy fox]

is sync emote with dead masked intended ? 😂
i feel so toxic from this

[hushed sail]

Why is bro dead like that

[visual prism]

ok, but did you sync the emote

you know, out of respect

[scenic cave]

I swear I broke the masked enemies emoting when they transition from their start to loop animation clips, but it's working now, and I didn't do anything, so now I'm very suspicious that it's not fixed.
I might just push the update.

https://tenor.com/view/code-works-code-not-working-error-scaler-create-impact-gif-24991578

I did not overhaul any code. I'll test it a little bit longer

...... Nevermind. I think I found the issue. Now I don't have to go to sleep thinking I pushed an update with a bug I can't find 😂

[exotic pond]

https://clips.twitch.tv/StrongJollyJamANELE-yqN0HbawjDw5L5_- @scenic cave Is it possible TooManyEmotes may be causing this to happen?

[scenic cave]

It is very possible lol. It could be that I'm trying to animate them without checking if they are dead. I moved that section of code, and maybe I changed the emote conditions on accident? I will have to check on that tomorrow

[exotic pond]

Okay 👍

[keen citrus]

never skip leg day!

[sharp vine]

does this mod have audio or nah

[exotic pond]

@scenic cave You ever look into this bug yet? XD

[scenic cave]

soon

[scenic cave]

also soon

I'm testing the death bug one atm

[exotic pond]

Cool, cool, cus that was funny af

[sharp vine]

https://tenor.com/view/monstercat-dancing-jams-gif-22193038

[little goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/phonk-russian-badger-russian-badger-phonk-meme-based-gif-1151806001734917784

Might I make a suggestion- >w>

[scenic cave]

Actually, I'm unsure now @exotic pond. When you killed the masked enemy, he wasn't emoting, so it shouldn't have done anything. I just killed a few after they were emoting, similar to your video, but they died normally.
I did however kill some while they were emoting, and they "died", but they were still emoting forever, which is actually a different bug. I will fix this by adding their death as a condition to stop emoting.

So I don't know haha

[exotic pond]

Okay so the situation that happened in the video was that

as I was killing the masked, my actual friend it was mimicking

Got grabbed by a Bracken

and it mimiced the animations of being grabbed

When they did

Lol

qwbarch said it's not from Mirage's end and thought maybe something weird was going on with your mod there

So you'd essentially I guess need a friend to test with, have a mimic spawns in that mimics them and kill them and see what happens XD

[scenic cave]

Hmm, I try to mess with the masked enemy ai as little as possible, and there's no way I have them copy anything related to the player they're mimicking, aside from using random emotes from the emotes that the player has unlocked.
It is still possible my mod is doing stuff. What I said is what I intended, and not always what's actually going on

Possibly

I'd have to test later

[exotic pond]

Okay lol

[lilac dock]

can I hit the luddy with this mod

[sharp vine]

lmao he listened to me

[exotic pond]

Have you looked into this yet cus I would love a bug fix to be pushed if possible XD

[scenic cave]

Nope. Won't be back on my computer for a bit. For when I do get back on and can test it, give me some steps to follow so I can possibly try to replicate it. Might speed up the process haha

[exotic pond]

Well, in my case it happened randomly cus my friend got killed by a Bracken when I was boxing a mimic of her lol

So I imagine if a mimic of someone spawns if the real person dies in some way it could be reproduced

Worst case hope a Bracken spawns in and have them get murdered by a Bracken XD

[exotic pond]

018dd35d-b00c-640f-ec17-e817d732af82 My current mod pack btw if you need it for testing

You'll need to ensure you enable the console if needed as I disable it by default since I stream when playing the game XD

[scenic cave]

I guess there's a possibility that it could have been messing up the humanoid skeleton which I animate on, but if that's the case, it shouldn't happen since I added death as a condition to stop emoting haha. I won't push the update out just for that, but I will include it in the next update

Wait

What I just said doesn't make sense lol. The player shouldn't even be affecting the mimic.

Idk anymore, but I'll look just in case

[sturdy fox]

o yea when i change the keybind from the config the text ingame just doesnt update to it
i wonder why

[scenic cave]

I'm assuming you're not using input utils? Or do you have it enabled?

[sturdy fox]

i have it enabled but once i changed it from config manually it refuse to change

guess i have to change it from input utils nexttime then

also what did u add after 1.8.6 to make the size tripled 🤔

[sturdy fox]

input utils seems to save my key change even if i delete toomanyemote and its config,
but it doesnt fix the radial thing from sayng ` instead of my assigned key
i wonder how did i make it work last time

[scenic cave]

I'm not 100% sure why the size increased so much. I added almost 100 animation clips in 1.8, but jumping to 1.9, I didn't really add much content, I mainly changed up the code a lot, so it's kind of weird why it increased so much in size. I'm not home right now, so I can't check, but now I'm curious lol.

I will also look into the keybind issue later

[exotic pond]

Lmao @scenic cave https://clips.twitch.tv/ImportantMoralYogurtSuperVinlin-my-fWuV0OJotZ8HY people have been bringing up this bug where when you kill a masked while emoting how they get stuck in an emoting state

[sturdy fox]

something like this
the masked kinda being funi

[scenic cave]

The fix will be pushed out soon enough 🙂

[sturdy fox]

[exotic pond]

@scenic cave ran into an issue where when murdering a masked while emoting it didn't stop emoting

[scenic cave]

yeah, I haven't pushed that fix out yet. It will be bundled with more stuff tomorrow. Also, my time estimates aren't the best, so don't hold me to the "tomorrow" part too hard 😂 (I will try)

[gentle hound]

So i have been having some issues where pressing alt dosent unlock rotation and alt-tabbing out of fullscreen and back in permanently locks rotation. It dosent create any warnings/errors in the console apart from the 'Reloading Player Model' message.

[exotic pond]

@scenic cave when is that bug fix update coming?

XD

[scenic cave]

Oh sorry, and yes haha. Once I finish repacking these animations. I had to recompress some of them. My mod tripled in size because I left them uncompressed after I redid them in 1.8 I think? I don't remember. But yeah, gimme 2 hours. Need to get some food too

[exotic pond]

Okay!!!! 😄

[exotic pond]

https://tenor.com/view/gpo-update5-gif-25774271

Lmao

[scenic cave]

It's pushed now haha

[sturdy fox]

the california gurls incident

[scenic cave]

It happened again

idk why lol

[misty dove]

about a week ago all of my favorited emotes vanished, totally forgot about the entire thing until now and i dont even think i have the logs.. i mean last time i checked i closed lethal company..

[scenic cave]

Were they just gone from the favorited emotes? Or were they not a part of the mod anymore?

[misty dove]

Gone from favorited

[scenic cave]

Actually, it seems like there are some unintended things going on with favorited emotes. When some emotes get temporarily removed, I guess it removes it from the favorites. I don't remember if that's what I intended at the time, but I don't think that's how it should be. Also, if for some reason someone loads the mod up without any mods loaded, which wouldn't normally happen unless a bug happened, all emotes might be removed from favorites. I will fix this in the next update. Thanks for letting me know!

[misty dove]

I do know that it is temporary, it happens usually when I land on Aquatais [modded moon], and comes back when I rejoin. Haven’t been in lc for a while so idk if it’s back yet

Another thing idk if you can fix, if you update the mod midway through a game [like when you yourself add an update to it] your emotes will be the 1 dance

Also prickly and act natural are the same emote

[scenic cave]

Wait, act natural is in there? That was the old name for the emote. Thank you haha, I will get that one removed.

And which dance are you referring to? The default dance in the game?

[misty dove]

yeah default dance

we haven’t played lc in a while but I don’t know if the Aerobic having 2 of the same emote and renamed is also still there

[scenic cave]

Where were you seeing the act natural emote again? Was it just in the menu? Or was it an actual emote you could perform?

[misty dove]

i could perform it, [beware i havent played lc in a while i do not know if you fixed it yet]

[scenic cave]

Ohh, I see. Then it should be fixed. I'm not seeing act natural anymore. Aerobics is also renamed to Work it out, so I don't think that one should be duplicated. Thanks for the information btw

[exotic pond]

@scenic cave Is this EnemyAI Error spam from TooManyEmotes?

[Warning:TooManyEmotes-1.9.5] Player died while emoting. What a loser... I mean, I hope this handles smoothly.
[Warning: Unity Log] HeadMaskTragedy is disabled! Netcode for GameObjects does not support spawning disabled NetworkBehaviours! The RandomPeriodicAudioPlayer component was skipped during spawn!
[Warning: Unity Log] PlayOneShot was called with a null AudioClip.
[Warning:TooManyEmotes-1.9.5] Failed to perform emote on masked enemy. Target player is too far away. Distance: 166.4931
[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException
Stack trace:
UnityEngine.Component.CompareTag (System.String tag) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0001)
(wrapper dynamic-method) EnemyAI.DMDEnemyAI::EnableEnemyMesh(EnemyAI,bool,bool)
StartOfRound.SetPlayerSafeInShip () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_008B)
(wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMDStartOfRound::SetShipDoorsClosed(StartOfRound,bool)
HangarShipDoor.SetDoorOpen () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0000)

[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException
Stack trace:
UnityEngine.Component.CompareTag (System.String tag) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0001)
(wrapper dynamic-method) EnemyAI.DMDEnemyAI::EnableEnemyMesh(EnemyAI,bool,bool)
StartOfRound.SetPlayerSafeInShip () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_008B)
AudioReverbTrigger.ChangeAudioReverbForPlayer (GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB pScript) (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0177)
AudioReverbTrigger.OnTriggerStay (UnityEngine.Collider other) (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_018B)

[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException
Stack trace:
UnityEngine.Component.CompareTag (System.String tag) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0001)
(wrapper dynamic-method) EnemyAI.DMDEnemyAI::EnableEnemyMesh(EnemyAI,bool,bool)
StartOfRound.SetPlayerSafeInShip () (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_008B)
AudioReverbTrigger.ChangeAudioReverbForPlayer (GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB pScript) (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_0177)
AudioReverbTrigger.OnTriggerStay (UnityEngine.Collider other) (at <af9b1eec498a45aebd42601d6ab85015>:IL_018B)

I noticed TooManyEmotes threw a warning there

[scenic cave]

Nah, that's fine. Just informational. Not really a "warning"

[exotic pond]

Ah okay, just trying to isolate what's causing the EnemyAI spam

[misty dove]

funniest thing ive seen

"Player died while emoting. what a loser... I mean, I hope this handles smoothly."

[misty dove]

Found out what emotes it is

Work it out is a copy of Aeriobics

Oh

I think aeriobics was removed

[wanton gorge]

What happened to the "whirlwind" breakdance move? Has it just been replaced? That one was so much fun to goofily spin around with with unlocked movement and not have to worry about it resetting/starting up
😢 😢 😢

really happy "boneless" is back though

[lime garnet]

man do i want a whitelist for emotes

[scenic cave]

What about something like a separate config (outside from the base mod's config) that allows you to enable/disable certain emotes?

[scenic cave]

The transition was kinda messed up, so I temporarily removed it. It will come back!

[mighty pagoda]

tooltips are borked again

doesnt update when you rebind through inpututils

[lime garnet]

as long as i can have a whitelist and it works i'm good

[little goblet]

@scenic cave Ooseykins-LethalVRM-1.0.7 - Doesn't seem to work together with TooManyEmotes. There doesn't seem to be an error stating anything, nor any Debug information to be visible. It simply causes the model put in via. VRM to do the default dance animation no matter the emote chosen. @misty notch (I'm assuming you're the VRM dev, since you share the exact same name) - I have a friend using VRM with a model (tis how I discovered this lack of interaction).

For Oose:
Also, on a side bit: VRM models don't have jiggle physics (it seems). Can certain models not use the jigglyphysics stuff (from like "JigglePhysicsPlugin"), or use "Dynamic Bones" and convert it into jigglephysics plugin call of sorts if possible? In VRChat, things with jiggle/sway physics function - so something isn't allowing the same jiggles/sways to happen (even though both are Unity games). This section isn't more important than the lack of functionality between the two mods. Would like both fixed though.

Leaving this here just incase somebody doesn't know why their emotes are failing, and the 2nd paragraph is just askin' why the wiggle/jiggle no work 'n if it can be added.

[scenic cave]

What do you mean I share the same name as the dev for LethalVRM? Isn't it Ooseykins? I did not make that mod

[little goblet]

No, I'm pinging Oose as they have the same name as the dev-name of LethalVRM on the website

[scenic cave]

Oh

sorry

[little goblet]

😅

[scenic cave]

I didn't see you pinged him, lol mb

[little goblet]

The VRM side of things is for him, I is pinging u just questioning the lack of functionality between you 'n their stuff

friend of mine wants to use your emotes, but they can't get it working. It just does default dance.

So wonderin' if you can figure out why that happens 'n patch it for his model-using butt - u-

[scenic cave]

Gimme a sec to read your post, though. A little busy atm

[little goblet]

I can report: With the mod installed - the emotes still function. It breaks only when a model replaces the default one.

(or the currently used model of the individual)

[little goblet]

I can confirm something odd. When someone with the VRM syncs a dance, they still do the normal dance - but if you (another person) does the dance, you can see the cosmetics of the player dancing to the same emote - phasing through the VRM model

[exotic pond]

Never use cosmetics when using a VRM or ModelReplacementAPI

They don't work properly with different models that's why you're seeing weirdness

[misty notch]

@little goblet Yes hi I know there's an incompatibility. Not sure the fix, there is unlikely to be a fix from my end soon. BadassCompany made a fix that changed the script execution order to fix incompatibility on their end, if this is the required fix (changing order) it will probably happen eventually. Sorry there hasn't been more support overall, I'm pretty busy with other parts of my life

There is possibility to fix the physics bones, I've talked to another dev who achieved it but I haven't uploaded a public repo to get pull requests. The lack of physbones is marked in the FAQ for the mod. Feels inappropriate to talk about my mod in this thread so feel free to ping me elsewhere if you want to continue a thread (though I won't have much to say)

[little goblet]

Well make a heckin' thread :< ... ... Unless there is one and I failed to find it

[leaden yew]

in reference to this, literally not documented at all by unity, but it basically does what it says on the tin, an execution order of -2 would go after an order of -1, which goes after an order of 0, etc...

[misty notch]

Sorry I only joined this discord to ask extremely specific questions and respond to @ me, not sure how to make threads etc (also away from my office, sorry!)

[misty notch]

Yes! It's extremely weird that there is no documentation because it is very powerful and could be used (or abused?) often

[desert raven]

once you come back.. you can make a New post on the #1169056298856362105 Mod Releases. add the link, name, photo and such. then ask the moderators to pin your important notes and links or something related.

[scenic cave]

@misty notch Okay I'm kinda free now. What does your mod do that conflicts with mine? Are we both moving the player's bones, but your mod is moving them after mine or something? I don't know much about your mod, so unsure atm where the issue is right now haha

[misty notch]

Oh hi yeah it runs in LateUpdate to move the bones of the spawned model to match the player model. https://github.com/Wet-Boys/LethalEmotesAPI/commit/f7928e596954d34e35826284bba32eb1497976dd#commitcomment-136949020 is the change from Nunchuk that makes LateUpdate run earlier

I think because my mod exists as a singleton since the game loads, it sticks itself first in LateUpdate execution order by default (order of object creation) and their fix just makes their mod run earlier than mine each frame

It's a fix I should add to my mod to ensure compatibility across the board but I haven't gotten around to it, sorry! In general the execution order doesn't really matter, but in this case it did

[scenic cave]

Kk, gimme a sec and I'll look into this

Tyty

[misty notch]

Tysm, sorry I don't mean to throw the responsibility to you on this, I'm embarrassingly inactive in this community

[scenic cave]

Alright, I've postponed audio and emotes with props for too long, so here's a quick preview of the next update! For clarity, this emote in particular is a special sync emote, where if you sync with someone performing it, it does a different emote within that same emote sync group. More of these will come in the future!
Also, a quick note about emote music. With the exception of emotes with musical instruments, I am making the decision to only allow music to be played from a nearby boombox. Maybe I will add a config to disable this, but this will be default.
Maybe I'll add more types of syncing emotes, similar to how helldivers 2 does some emotes, where you're left in a pausd emote until someone syncs with you, and then you emote together, like a fistbump, hug, and change my rock paper scissors emote to do the same haha. Who knows
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWsCQk6ODEk

[little goblet]

Hell - Yes

[little goblet]

@scenic cave - https://youtu.be/pHXDMe6QV-U?t=47

[scenic cave]

Tbh, I do like that one better. Maybe I'll have both, but have it be random between them haha

@little goblet

[little goblet]

:3

I know it's not an easy task - but you could totally set it up like how Warframe/Maplestory 2 did their music-systems of sorts

but that'd require the creation of like a music system that uses text to turn into notes

and also a way to have it play in unison when started together or when people jump in randomly

-w -

A task for V.69 - No doubt.

[leaden yew]

I love all the instrument emotes

[eternal quail]

W/10

[scenic cave]

What exactly are you referring to here? Was this part separate from the warframe/maplestory thought you had?

@leaden yew @eternal quail haha thanks 😘

[little goblet]

added onto

In Maplestory 2 you could sync music with another - assuming you had the other instruments

and anytime you jumped in, it'd be in sync and play with the song

[scenic cave]

Oh, then yes, that's exactly how the emote in the video works. You can press e on someone performing the emote, and it syncs with them, and performs a different emote within that emote sync group (different instrument)

[desert raven]

Ohhh nice music emotes

i'll totally spam that

can't wait to sync music emotes with Mimics

[dusk flare]

what would happen if fifth player tried to sync into this?
do they just go all over the instruments again

[desert raven]

i think it would be better for them to just go along with the people based on how long they are doing the emote

like an insert

[little goblet]

Outer Wilds Spoilers - Do not click if you haven't beaten Outer Wilds: https://youtu.be/9xQp2-C4z74?t=5257 @scenic cave Can dis be added? .w . ... There's definitely music reference sheets in the event you must create the notes yourself out there on the net.

[sterile lion]

^ First thing I thought of when seeing that preview lol

[scenic cave]

Currently, if a fifth player tries to sync, and all the instruments are being played, it will just play the instrument in line after the one the player they synced with is playing. Their instrument will not make any noise though if someone is already playing that instrument, and it is playing noise, but for every person in an emote sync group, the volume will increase by a bit

[scenic cave]

I would be 100% down for this. I would just need to get my hands on those animations lol

I guess the outer wilds is Unity, isn't it? Shouldn't be too hard to extract

[sterile lion]

correct

[scenic cave]

Well, it looks like I have outer wilds installed still (super great game). Let me give it a try in a bit lol

[little goblet]

(a great friend of mine would probably go nuts happy if you get that into the mod .w. ... They'd love it 5x more than I would)

on the topic of that game, ||fuck the god damn fish|| -w-

but I'd rather trade my epic sax guy for their love of that game's tune

so if the two are in consideration @scenic cave - pls work on the outer wilds one first 😌

[scenic cave]

What are you referring to about this exactly?

[little goblet]

@scenic cave

The meme of that is "Epic Sax Guy" ., . .... if that doesn't age-check me, I don't know what would/will 😅

[scenic cave]

Oh, I just didn't understand how you worded that lol. You were just asking for that song specifically?

[little goblet]

I'd rather trade that for the outer wilds one to be done first (or at all). .w.

It'd (Outer Wilds bein' a music emote) do more for them (fwiend), than epic sax guy would do for me -3-

but I would nonchalantly epic sax guy through a facility

pls gib walking movement speed when doing it <w<

also I could totally feed ye many music memes for that stuff

if you ever wanna have another thing to musically add

(like, if ye wanted to basically give a reference to all Binding Of Isaac Rebirth players: https://youtu.be/5bQFhlsd0M8?t=9)

[scenic cave]

I likely won't go out of my way too often to track down animations/music for people, with the exception of outer wilds (possibly) because I love that game and the music. I just don't have all the time in the world, but if people do put in the work and provide me with stuff to work with, like animation files/music/props (whatever what you want needs) I might be able to make something happen haha

But I would like to add the sea of thieves instruments/animations. Idk how I'd even grab those, though

[little goblet]

:D ... i'd be content enuff with outer wilds

and they'd be ecstatic

[scenic cave]

Btw, not to get your hope up, but I did get the animations for the game, and most of the relevant ones for the instrument animations seem to be humanoid animations, which is good haha. It just means less converting, but a few are a little different and might require tweaking. And then animations for the instruments. I would hope that part is easy enough, but I won't be able to look at this too much until I update this mod. It sadly won't make it into the next update, but maybe the next haha

[little goblet]

No rush! .w.

I want a heads up in the changelog or a ping here prior to it releasing though so I can prepare to record their reaction to it ;3

[brisk ether]

Hey, I have a question. Is there a list of what the origin of each emote is, or where they're from? A lot of them I know, but I'm just curious about the rest. Love the mod, btw! All of the emotes are incredibly well done.

[little goblet]

I would love a list like that, but I too love figuring out what the reference is

a friend was flabbergasted as to how I knew the niche reference of ... what was the emote name?... Error?

and it only clicked to me because of the 3 times the emote wasn't spazzing out - because that was part of the meme XD

[dusk flare]

i somehow figured out error just when it started twitching
the timing is great too

[scenic cave]

Lol most of the emotes are from fortnite, will likely be adding other meme / popular emotes from other games soon.
As for the actual origin of where those emotes came from, I don't have a list of that lol

Btw, error has now been renamed to "Get down" since I have recently been made aware of the actual name (I think), but the emote will remain, and will stay legendary tier lol. It will likely get removed from players' favorites after the rename, though

[little goblet]

It definitely is get down 🤣

[scenic cave]

Anyways, I think the update is basically finished. It's too late to do my final phase of testing, and I don't like releasing updates when I go to bed, because I won't know about issues, and won't be able to fix them for about 16 hours after I wake up and return from work haha

So ETA is tomorrow!

[little goblet]

👍 release it another time

maybe you'll recall something in your sleep ye forgot to do -u -

[scenic cave]

Oh, I forgot to add new config entries for this update. That's just one example of the potential many things I'm not thinking about right now

Anyways, I'mma head to bed soon, laters

[desert raven]

is the twerk emote back yet?

i like that emote. its funny

i would use that to mess with my friend. whenever they use that twerk emote from the more emotes

[scenic cave]

Oh, I totally forgot. Let me fix that one tomorrow and I will try to add it

[desert raven]

i think there are some more that are missing

i think you need to do a round check of every emote you have.

because i think its not only that which is missing

[desert raven]

i only remember Twerk because it was the first emote i used that made me laugh during our group having 15 members at once

they all decided to use the more emote twerk one by one then i found that you also had one and used it

it was a totally different emote which made us laugh

[unborn quartz]

This shit is so beautiful I may cry

[brisk ether]

No worries! Thank you for your reply 🫰

[scenic cave]

There definitely are, and some that are already added back in for this next update, but there are some that I won't re-add since I don't think people will miss them. Windmill will return, but not sure about this patch.

[desert raven]

what are the ones that are not coming back? a lot?

oh btw. that musical emote. it can be triggered by the mimic right? but it needs to stick quite a while before it can perform some of it

[scenic cave]

I honestly don't remember. I'd have to check my old files. I don't think it was that much.
And masked enemies can perform those emotes, but I'm not currently going to add more code just to make them play those emotes longer lol. I'm trying to be minimal when I change elements of the game that aren't essential to my mod, like the masked enemies. I don't want to ruin compat with mods that might modify the masked enemies

[desert raven]

oh when i mention the masked. i meant like is there enough time frame for them to play the instruments before going to attack

[scenic cave]

Yes. It's just 1 emote, but it has 4 emotes in the sync group, if that makes sense. When you perform that emote, it will always perform the violin, since that's the first one in the emote group. It's the same for players and masked enemies. You can only play the other instruments by syncing with someone else, or performing the emote while you're already performing the emote, and it will cycle through them. Just some technical information lol

But to answer your question, they will perform it right away

[desert raven]

oh nice

[scenic cave]

The update is live! As live as it can be until it updates on thunderstore and mod managers.
Please, share any bugs from this update with me! I would like to get them fixed asap. Thanks all

[lusty canopy]

changelog?

isnt on the website

[scenic cave]

Apparently, the update failed

F

Wait

No, it uploaded successfully.
Changelog is on the top tab

[lethal cypress]

I haven't even played yet but I can already tell 2.0.0 is gonna be great

Just by that preview you posted

[marble heart]

emote music!?!!?!?

[exotic pond]

Requires a boombox though, I hate wasting money on boomboxes 😦

Still amazing though ^^

Oh hey nice there's an option to disable the Boombox requirement

Yay 💜

I'mma test this

Excited

Lol

@scenic cave you may wanna add an option to disable Copyrighted music btw

[lethal cypress]

That's a good point for streamers, yeah

[exotic pond]

Ye

Update is amazing though

[scenic cave]

@misty notch btw, the compat with your mod is fixed. Forgot to tag you lol

[scenic cave]

I just have a general mute button right now. I don't wanna sort which ones are copyright right now lol

[exotic pond]

😢

[exotic pond]

Maybe you could have the BadAssCompany devs help you with the DMCA stuff? 🥺

You can't tug at my heart strings like this I wanna use the update for my next stream 😆 but need a way to disable only the copyrighted stuff

[sturdy fox]

ah yes the 2.0 update

the dawn of california gurls 2.0

[little goblet]

whoooa why does it look like that

why does yours look so cool 😭

[scenic cave]

Idk

To everyone else: Also heading to bed. So I had to revert some things and removed the audio, as there are issues that need fixing, so I will have to update it again when I got time to fix it this weekend. Sorry not sorry 🤷‍♂️
Jug Band stays, though.

[shut pilot]

the new emotes look so cool

Is the audio attracting dogs? I hope it does

[gritty moth]

I noticed a conflict with the TooManyEmotes mod as there's an emote called 'Switchstep' that takes over the 'Switch' camera command when it's in store which also messes up the view monitor when trying to open or close doors/turrets by showing a 'confirm' or 'deny' menu that conflicts with other actions @scenic cave

[scenic cave]

Lol thanks for letting me know. There might be a few like this. I might have to make people type the whole name to avoid this completely, or I can find a list of commands and only do it for the ones that conflict with existing commands 🤷‍♂️

[lime garnet]

you could use https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1209010173713322004 for now

[stable nymph]

oh my lord, 2.0.0 is soooo good 🔥
Out of a 4h session we spent like 3 being an impro band xD

Thank you for your work bringing us fun moments ❤️

[scenic cave]

hahahaha glad to hear 🙂

I found me and my friends did something similar. We just wanted to vibe xD

[scenic cave]

2.0.3 is out with more fixes.
Audio is back, and dmca-free mode can be turned on in the emote menu instead of just muting all of the audio.
Also added the california gurls emote 😉

[exotic pond]

Yay ^^ does the DMCA mode do the classical music alternatives like BadassCompany?

[scenic cave]

Nope. For testing two types of audio, I did add alternatives for 2 emotes, and may do this for more of them in the future unless I can easily convert all of them to dmca-free lol

Did they make the classical alternatives?

Also it's late, so I need to be heading to bed, night!

I also thought about turning all of the dmca alternatives into kazoo covers 😉 It would be funny

[exotic pond]

Idk haha you could ask them but I love the idea of adding a bunch of funny DMCA alternatives ^^

Sleep well btw ^^

[leaden yew]

if you define "feeding all tracks into a midi converter" as classical music, then yes we did lol

we wanted to do some fun stuff with real time midi files, allowing people to feed in their own instruments for it to use, but that was way out of scope in the end

[scenic cave]

I haven't touched midi stuff for many years. I almost forgot that existed. Well, at least I got a tip, if I have time to replace more of those tracks haha, thanks!

[leaden yew]

The kazoo cover idea sounds really funny though

[exotic pond]

It really does 😆

Finally I can use TooManyEmotes though and masked enemies can dance with music!!!

cus once we added BadAssCompany masked enemies stood out like a sore thumb

Lmfao

@scenic cave I saw you fixed the walkies and flashlights being stiff when mimics emote nice job

[scenic cave]

Wait, was that an issue? I don't remember lol. It was an accidental fix.

Oh, I think I remember I was missing code that was present in 1.9, and when I added it back in to fix the objects being held by the player, it fixed that as well I guess

[exotic pond]

Love that it did Boneless

LOL, gonna be fun when I do my big stream later and people die to moments like this 🤣

[sturdy fox]

the only update that im willing to wait for

https://tenor.com/view/hololive-dance-hololive-california-girls-california-girls-hololive-dance-gif-26807834

[summer elm]

Dance Moves lacking audio. 😔

[cloud marten]

So toomanyemotes doesnt seem to work for me while playing with hotbarplus, which is weird tbf cause its both from flips

[summer elm]

That combo works for me.

[cloud marten]

hmm weird

cause if I have hotbarplus enabled with toomanyemotes neither work

[summer elm]

Something else then.

[cloud marten]

Hmm ill try it out I guess yeah

[scenic cave]

Which part doesn't work?

[scenic cave]

Also, I keep getting upset when I hear no audio as well, but at the same time, I keep forgetting to add it. I will do it now before I forget, and add it in the next update haha

[cloud marten]

Neither does, not the emotes nor the hotbar

[scenic cave]

You have any errors in your console? If not, I'm really not sure. I've never seen a compat issue between toomanyemotes and hotbarplus

Could be another mod conflicting with hotbarplus, which does break stuff

[cloud marten]

yeah probably was that just gonna stop playing with hotbarplus rn

[lime garnet]

the death emote not having audio and not any form of movement after the animation is peak

[scenic cave]

Lol it's also kinda silly that you can rotate that emote, but I don't wanna make an exception. Looks super funny though

[sturdy fox]

you can hide in walls with those, wont stop enemies from going after u tho 😂

[mighty pagoda]

why is the entire history of tiktok in this mod goddam

[scenic cave]

Because Fortnite took them from tiktok, and I took them from fortnite 🤷‍♂️
Fortnite's "Icon" (iconic?) emotes are basically dances from tiktok that got popular haha

[mighty pagoda]

oh are they really 💀

[maiden panther]

https://outplayed.tv/media/L8MW75
when your just trying to enjoy the emote music. smh

[scenic cave]

Bruh, that is so good 😂😂

[sturdy fox]

reverse yippe

we are the yippes all along, we madge when some random guy yoink our stuff

[steep merlin]

Not entirely sure if this is the right place to submit this, but I think I've found a bug where I can't seem to add jug band to my favorite emotes, which is just, truly unfortunate

[cloud marten]

Bro ur laugh is hilarious 😭

sounds like an engine thats failing to start 💀

[little goblet]

if it's an emote in toomanyemotes, proper place to submit this issue. An emote should always be favorable. 👍

Although posting logs and detailed stuff in github probably would be better.

[maiden panther]

Well I am technically sick 🤣🤣🤣

[stable nymph]

yes, can confirm

[cloud marten]

Does the emoting with mimics work with the maskedenemyoverhaulfork too?

or just the normal overhaul

[sturdy fox]

it worked last time i played with MEOF

[cloud marten]

alright ^^

[scenic cave]

Huh, let me look into that. I thought I fixed it, but maybe I broke it again. It's most likely related to the fact that that emote has four emote names even though it's kind of one emote.

[heavy elbow]

Hello!
Today we tried an updated version of your mod, and the sound features are great!

Could you enable music only for boomboxes that are turned off? Or make config for that option?
We can't dance with our own music anymore

[hearty obsidian]

yes is there a way to dance without automatically changing the music

maybe if music is already playing

then it doesn't change

[scenic cave]

Yes, I could probably add this as a config option. Give me a bit, though. Focusing on another update atm

[scenic cave]

This should be fixed now!
@summer elm Also, dance moves should have music.
Anyone else who mentioned this, but boomboxes won't play emote music now if they're already playing their boombox music.

[steep merlin]

Fuck Yes

[scenic cave]

Don't give me nightmares

That face

[steep merlin]

oh god. if you played super monkey ball adventure then im so sorry for you

[scenic cave]

I have not lol, but of course I know of it

[high halo]

YESSS

i was just gonna ask about this

super sick

[marble heart]

W update

i dont need a boombox to play emote music now!

[fervent raft]

🪳 Bug Report: Upon death during emoting, your model gets stuck in an A-pose. You don't see the ship flying away cutscene either and it cuts off to black. Fortunately, everything resets when the next round starts. So not too game breaking.

As I was testing this solo, I'm not 100% if this affects spectator cam. Potentially it could if it's stuck on viewing the A-pose player model. That would be a negative effect.

relevant portion of the log

from the moment I perform the emote to reviving on the ship

yeahh its quite the niche bug. cant imagine this happening too often and everything resets just fine on next round start. still quite the fun mod. 👍

[marble heart]

whoever created this mod can you make it so u can just play music on the ships speakers?

like as a seperate mod

[fervent raft]

it does play on ships speakers

did you want to disable it? because you can disable it the configs.

[scenic cave]

@marble heart yes, what Sashimi said. It's been updated to play on the ship speakers, but can be changed in the config. I'm not going to make a separate mod for this, sorry!

[little goblet]

@scenic cave

is there a reason these weights are these numbers? 😅

[exotic pond]

Keep in mind he may not answer, he's working on getting an update pushed out that rolls back ReservedSlots to pre 2.0 with the API support added

[little goblet]

mhm

I just hope I don't brick something

I will be fixing it back to better looking numbers

[exotic pond]

Just don't touch them

the defaults are fine lol

[little goblet]

:c .... I hate all them zeroez

[exotic pond]

ignore it

don't look at the config

XD

[scenic cave]

That's fine. Unity just does that sometimes with decimal values lol

[marble heart]

oh i just want to play like music on speakers without the use of emotes

[scenic cave]

Are you specifically referring to the emote music, or just any music in general?

[marble heart]

any music in general

[scenic cave]

Yeah, that's not the job of my mod lol

I'm not making any more mods either

[summer elm]

DiscJockey is your best bet. Even though that's for boombox.

[marble heart]

ah ok

i just hate the silence in the ship while everyones afk

[frank gazelle]

Jug Band is an amazing emote

[little goblet]

I'm in a fucking giggling fit with the emotes. I love it @scenic cave

👌

[keen citrus]

Had a crash when players were emoting and we had someone joining with late company.

[scenic cave]

I'm not really sure. The log doesn't really say what happened at the end of it. No sign of errors.
You sure it would have been the cause of this mod?

Did it only crash for you? Were you the host?

[keen citrus]

I ended up figuring it out. It sent me all over the place tracking sound errors and back.

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Lauriichan/FriendPatches/

Apparently it was conflicting with anything that utilised player models.

[muted grove]

We were crashing with similar issues last night and couldn't figure out what mod was causing it. I think this might be our answer!

[frosty fulcrum]

Greetings, I tried searching for this and found by random... But I have a bug question.

Half of my household plays on KB/M and others use controllers

The issue we are having is... My wife and son keeps activating the Pinwheel trying to run from things, and up the Emotes come... Then dead.

I tried looking in the Config file to rebind the Controller... But only found options for KB binding. Tried to change that to see if it helps. It did not.

Is there away to fit this issue?

[turbid bane]

Hey I have stumbled across this awesome mod and read through all of the description. Just one thing I wanna ask, will the unlocked emotes reset upon not meeting the quota? Because I’m confused on that part.

[brittle cliff]

I'm assuming there's no first-person mode for the emotes? Just something I'm looking for

[little goblet]

Emotes get reset on quota fail, but you can customize it to always have all emotes . ,.

[turbid bane]

I see.. so they don't have the option to enable the "keep emotes even if the quota fails" feature?

[scenic cave]

For full support with changing keybinds, I recommend installing InputUtils

[scenic cave]

Not yet, but it's been requested. I might add the option in the future

[scenic cave]

This has been requested a few times as well, so I might look into this again. I will need to figure out how I want to implement this first.

[turbid bane]

Thanks for considering this option 👍 I can see that you have hundreds of available emotes so I figured it might make a good feature to keep the emotes after a failed quota run, just like they did with keeping the ship upgrades and furnitures mod. However tho, you have done alot of good features implementing this mod ✌️

[frosty fulcrum]

Does it do Controller keybinds?

[scenic cave]

Yes

[frosty fulcrum]

Nexus or Thunderstore? (assume TS since most mods here are)

[frosty fulcrum]

Is there another option where I don't have to string lines of words and symbols together.... I don't know how to code

[scenic cave]

Oh, Thunderstore, btw.
Are you referring to something like <keyboard>/x or something?

InputUtils makes changing controls similar to vanilla

You just press the key to bind a control to, assuming the mod adds support for inpututils

[frosty fulcrum]

I'm running the Lethal Extended

Do i don't think there is a, menu to access mods... So far I've been directed to adjust the Config files, which has me nervous

[fervent raft]

u don’t use lethal config mod?

although it doesn’t detect every mod’s config.. it does detect a good chunk and it’s easy and convenient to use the UI. plus there’s a reset button to reset a config setting back to its default.

[frosty fulcrum]

It only detects 2 mods

[fervent raft]

too many emotes is detected for me

but anyway if u did somehow bork the config, u could just delete it and it should just generate a new one

[fervent raft]

yeah something’s weird with yours

it’s not even showing the mod icons

did u have introtweaks?

[frosty fulcrum]

Nope.

Lethal-Extended (mod pack)
Infinite Stamina
Mini-map
Portable Terminal
Extended Day

Are all the mods I have. I don't have a bunch as I have to manage 4 computers to manage set ups on

[keen citrus]

Instantly fixed all our issues.

dear god.... I have been trying to find out the instability for over a week and a half.
It was so inconsistent and looked like other problems.

[muted grove]

That's frustrating! I was getting all sorts of random errors that were leading me all over the place lol. After uninstalling it we've been fine.

[keen citrus]

We had this one instance where it finally showed during a crash.

Apparently, the addons fix for the "Unknown" player, completely deletes and reassigns the player model, camera, sound source, everything.
This happened during the lever pull and level load. Which led to a crash.

I imagine that a lot of mods will fail because of this drastic change.

[muted grove]

Have you posted in their mod thread? I'd be happy to second the issue also.

[keen citrus]

Do they have a thread here?

I was searching and failing to find one.

[muted grove]

Maybe not! I thought I saw one last night. They do have a Repo on github though.
https://github.com/Lauriichan/LC-FriendPatches

[keen citrus]

Yeah I am writing up a bug report now.

[keen citrus]

Here we are.

https://github.com/Lauriichan/LC-FriendPatches/issues/5

@exotic pond

I may be wrong, did you not have problems with friend patches before as well?

[muted grove]

Awesome, I added to your report. Hopefully this helps them fix it!

[exotic pond]

Yeah it doesn't actually do anything, just replace it with RecentlyPlayedWith by 1A3

[unborn quartz]

I have some bugs where the boombox emote music gets like dull and muted

[scenic cave]

I know this sometimes happens with me when the third person camera goes behind a wall, or almost behind a wall. Does that sound like what you're running into, or it is always like this?

[little goblet]

I have audio bugs sometimes, but they're odd. Sometimes I can have it play while I move after doing an emote, other times it sounds like the audio plays twice and then one gets turned off rapidly. But none of that really takes away from the mod's experience that much .o .

[scenic cave]

I'm also having the audio playing twice, and weird stuff like that. What's weird, and I could be wrong, but I don't remember this happening last week, but a few days later, without changing anything, this started happening, so I thought it was a mod doing it. I thought diversity, but I honestly have no idea. I will test again soon with less mods. It could definitely by my mod though lol

[fervent raft]

new update dropped 😎

that's an interesting bug u fixed. didnt kno u could see the girl when emoting.

she just wants to dance with u too 🥺

so will this particular bug still affect other things that are intentionally unrendered in other mods? since they wont have that patch code u put on the girl

[little goblet]

dunno if this is something fixable on your end, or requires a fix from mimics, but I'mma @ both of ye. @molten mason 'n @scenic cave - ||I've noticed that if you use the emote and turn the camera to the door, if you can phase the camera through the door if it's a mimic, but can't if it's safe.||

I accidentally discovered that, trying to test my spawns (the spawns are failing -~-...) - but thought it's worth pointin' out

||(You can actually phase quite a bit in, but I angled the camera to show partly phasing. But you can zoom out and see the door and hallway which gives it a tell)||

||Interestingly enough, on a custom interior like SCP - you can phase through all fire-exit doors, so you can't really tell||

||although I don't think mimics work in SCP interior... haven't met one yet||

[scenic cave]

I could probably ||just check the layer that the fake door is on, and add it to the layer mask that's used in the raycast that determines if there's a wall between the player and the third person camera.|| I will take a look at that tomorrow, thanks!

[little goblet]

shhh~

-3-

I spoiled it for a reason

so others don't abuse it -u -

at least intentionally.

[scenic cave]

I got you

It has been spoiled

[little goblet]

can't let them know the abusive power of using a Jetpack whilst using the default 1 emote too easily

ahem

[scenic cave]

😂😂 Yes, exactly what you just said. Definitely don't want people to know that

[little goblet]

:p

[fervent raft]

well i dont think my friends are clever enough to abuse emotes like that 🤔 (i think)

[little goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/toothless-yoshi-cas-van-de-pol-how-to-train-your-dragon-gif-3895550527008532813

[little goblet]

Random request (this is lots like a joke- but it's just cause I found how good it looks for somethin' like a flashlight): if you have two flashlights and have them on, dual-wield them during emotes

also I blame your mod for extending how long i test by like 50 minutes. I like the emotes 😅

[scenic cave]

Bro, everytime I get in a game to test something with one of my mods, I keep finding myself dancing in the ship so I can jam to some music for a bit lol.

[scenic cave]

Honestly, it would look pretty funny, but likely won't do this. I have too many other important things and bugs to fix 😦

[little goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-26077231

[fervent raft]

sooo.. i had an issue with ModelReplacementAPI suits rendering improperly in VR and i told both the LCVR and MRApi devs about my problem, but it turns out this mod was the one causing the issue.

basically the MRApi suits would render in your camera perspective, obscuring your vision.

https://github.com/DaXcess/LCVR/issues/223

[scenic cave]

I replied, but it looks like they found the issue. Thanks for letting me know though!

[fervent raft]

now we can have thicc employees and emoters together 🥹

[fervent raft]

#1187188516644474911 message

sorry, but i think you'll have to update your LCVR patch to account for the changes in the new LCVR update

i wrote this bug report out in MRApi before realizing it mightve been a TME issue

apparently LCVR got this new API.. so maybe you could use that to check if a player is in VR mode or not rather than checking the DisableVR config option.

only when i set DisableVR to true, will the emote wheel finally pop up in flatscreen mode

[fervent raft]

BTW emote death bug appears to be fixed 👍

[fervent raft]

interestingly enough, i also have BetterEmotes. the game is on the same TME fail conditions, but no errors on their end and the emotes work fine for flatscreen players. they havent even updated yet so i wonder how their compatibility patch works with the new LCVR update..

[proven swallow]

https://github.com/DaXcess/LCVR/blob/main/Docs/API/README.md#checking-if-vr-is-active

using LCVR.Player;

if (VRSession.InVR) {
  // LCVR is running in VR mode
} else {
  // LCVR is running in flatscreen mode
}

[scenic cave]

What would be the alternative to this? Were you wanting to open up the emote wheel in VR?

[scenic cave]

Okay, thanks! I'll update my patch soon.

[fervent raft]

no im having mixed lobbies of flatscreen and VR players.. i want flatscreen players to at least enjoy ability to emote.
and if VR players want to switch back to flatscreen mode, most people are going to use that pop-up window option to do it.
that window only pops up when DisableVR is false.

[scenic cave]

Currently, the only safe way to switch is to close the game. Maybe backing out to the main menu and rejoining would be enough as well. I do plan on changing some of the code so it can be changed on demand, as well, because as it is right now, if the mod is not enabled when you join a lobby, it does not initialize certain things, but I will probably change that so that objects such as the emote camera are initialized, but they just won't do anything in VR mode, and this will make it easier to switch mid-session.

I am not sure how much time I will have to do this tonight, and I'm not 100% sure about tomorrow, but after tomorrow, I have a list of bugs for my mods that I will be pushing out haha

@fervent raft by the way, with the lcvr change, can non-vr players not emote currently?

Sorry, I know you probably just said it a little bit ago, but I am just double-checking

[fervent raft]

#1187188516644474911 message
if they go through the pop up window and select "no" to enter non-vr the emote wheel will not work

only by setting DisableVR to true will the emote wheel pop up.. but that prevents that windows from popping up

[scenic cave]

Okay, thanks for that information! It is likely that the objects are not getting initialized since you are enabling that after joining a session it sounds like. But like I said, hopefully I can push this fix out tonight, or tomorrow.

[fervent raft]

ye i think the patch just needed a better way of knowing if the game's in VR or not. i can test for u when its out.

[scenic cave]

If I shared with you a test .dll of this next version, could you test it out for me? You'd probably want to share this with whoever else you play with. And if you have mods to update, update them first, and THEN replace the existing toomanyemotes dll with the one I will share with you.

[fervent raft]

yeah i can test it out. not right away, but within the hour.

[scenic cave]

Yeah, all good. I'm just double checking the changes, but I'll shoot you a dm if that's fine

[fervent raft]

ur good

i’ll test both flatscreen and VR

[fervent raft]

was this pretty much the only change you’ve done? implemented daxcess’s solution?

[scenic cave]

Yes, but I also made sure to initialize everything, such as the emote camera, the whole emote menu, animation preview, etc, regardless on if VR is enabled or not. This will let you swap over mid-session. You just won't be able to open the emote menu, performing emotes, and all that if vr mode is enabled.

[fervent raft]

yep thats what i totally expect no emotes for vr people

will vr people still be able to see flatscreen players emoting along with the boombox related music?

[scenic cave]

yep

should, unless I broke something, but I believe that's how it worked in the past

[fervent raft]

alright sorry i couldnt get to testing as soon as i thought.

i decided to test VR mode first.

but loading into a lobby, i couldnt look around.

i'm moving my head around, but it's not actually moving the ingame camera at all. so i was just stuck staring at the poster no matter how much i turned my head.

then i pull up the 'ESC' menu

suddenly ingame camera was now in sync with my head movement!

although i saw a floating body and boombox in front of me

i decide to go back ingame and now i can actually look around, but for some reason im now outside the ship

Now testing flatscreen mode by selecting “No” on the pop-up windows (DisableVR = false)

works like normal. i can emote in flatscreen mode no issue. 👍

nothing being kicked up on the console. boombox music works too.

let me try VR again but a clean profile with just the 3 mods, LCVR, MRApi, and TME.

[fervent raft]

same result: things work flawlessly for flatscreen players, but things are broken for VR players.

[fervent raft]

this is the error that pops up when i load into a lobby in VR mode

[fervent raft]

i see you mention something about being able to "swap over mid-session". i'd like to clarify that you must restart the game completely when switching from either flatscreen or VR mode. the pop-up window only shows up a couple seconds after the bepin console starts loading. toggling the DisableVR setting ingame also doesnt change your mode immediately, you still have to restart. so there's no swapping modes mid-session.

[fervent raft]

just to give u an idea what it's like to boot up with LCVR + showing off LCVR settings

[fervent raft]

i dont think there needs to be any mid-session checks. only after the pop-up window and game launch should u check if VRSession.InVR is true and then applying the vr patch the same way u did in current version.

[scenic cave]

@fervent raft Give me a bit to look at this in a little bit, but thanks for the information!

[scenic cave]

This part is good to know. If I have to, I could go back to preventing certain elements from loading.
I think I see a potential issue, related to the error you shared. Let me check on that.

[urban glade]

unless I'm blind I don't see crab rave
there's a suggestion LOL

[fervent raft]

but employees arent crabs

[scenic cave]

It might be called Crabby

[urban glade]

which tier is it? haven't been able to find it

[scenic cave]

rare or epic?

[urban glade]

also, so glad you included Forget Me Nots because that's one of my favorite songs ever lol

[scenic cave]

I can't remember

[urban glade]

turning on the ability to move while using these emotes is the only way my squad is going to get anything done

[little goblet]

Literally be dancin' in the ship at least 20% of the total time

least

[urban glade]

or just constant jug band

All the time

[little goblet]

there's one rare emote i love

https://youtu.be/oftolPu9qp4?t=61 The one that does dis bit

[urban glade]

Also I can't wait to full sprint off the top of Titan in the t-pose emote while playing Even Flow by Pearl Jam over my soundboard

[little goblet]

and this one- https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/848167747522134066/1219169437232660561/2024-03-18_02-23-15.mp4?ex=660a5304&is=65f7de04&hm=fa01ff164bbdfa88fac41eea63744c16a3d0ba69b1846a68ea132bd71cdfad27&

ngl - I've gotten addicted to doing an emote with a shotgun

and trying to kill a masked coming at me or some enemy

during the dance

[mossy current]

has anyone else had the issue where the host sees their cosmetics on other people?

[little goblet]

yup

happened during the vrm bug a little while back

but vrms now work

'n I haven't seen it since o -o

[civic steeple]

any hope you ever add torture dance as an emote?

[civic steeple]

also I am a party pooper doesn't work and I'm not sure if im the one doing it wrong

I turned it on and off but kept all the emotes

even if I die/reset save/join a different save

[scenic cave]

I'm assuming you're the host, right? I haven't heard of it not working recently.

[exotic pond]

It does work you may have a corrupted config lol

[graceful glade]

Is MoreEmotes compatible with TooManyEmotes or will something break?

[scenic cave]

As far as I know they are compatible

[unborn quartz]

Is MoreEmotes stable yet

[graceful glade]

I've never had issues with it

[unborn quartz]

Ive had it be all wonky and wild

[gaunt bridge]

yeah, it messed with the player models a lot when I had it in my mod list

[fervent raft]

did some light testing and it looks very promising

ive only tested solo

emotes work in flatscreen mode no issue

and entering VR.. everything looked fine too

didnt see anything get kicked up on the console

i just need to confirm it works fine in multiplayer.. which ill prob check later

thank you flip for going out of ur way to fix the VR issues 🙇‍♂️

i use BetterEmotes over MoreEmotes

[graceful glade]

Yup, they work very well together 👀

[fervent raft]

try BetterEmotes

i havent tested BetterEmotes + TooManyEmotes with the latest TME update, but it was working on the last update no issue in multiplayer

[graceful glade]

MoreEmotes works fine too

[fervent raft]

but i dont see bro clapping his hands tho? 😭

[graceful glade]

Its not the hands that are clapping

[fervent raft]

[little goblet]

Yo prank em john-

[limber elm]

Latest update ver 2.0.7 doing this weird bug with the player models when emoting

didn't do it with the older ver

[fervent raft]

if u could show a recorded clip, thatd be nice. but is the issue with the morecompany cosmetics not moving with the player model?

[limber elm]

uhh just hopped off lethal with my friends but it does move with the player model it just shows like an extra model

as you can see sorta in the ss

[fervent raft]

was it only showing it on ur one friend

or all of them?

[limber elm]

it would like swap between players

also messed with my playermodel it would just remove the visor

[scenic cave]

Sorry for late response, but this should be fixed now.

[young sky]

was the bug about local player visor getting attached to other emoting players?

[scenic cave]

Yes. It was when I was animating each player's camera, but I forgot to check if it was the local player when moving the visor lol

It's mainly in preparation for those who want to emote in first person, but that part isn't ready yet

[young sky]

#1191113181653905423 message
I almost gave up trying to find a reason thinking it was on me

Glad it got fixed

[scenic cave]

Lmao, no. 100% me 😂 Sorry about that!

Even if I only moved the visor for the local player while they emote, does that part mess with your mod at all?

[young sky]

if you're talking about first person view, it won't.

[scenic cave]

Okay cool. It's basically moving it exactly like the vanilla game does anyways, but just checking.

[fervent raft]

i havent tried 2.0.8 yet, but yeah i saw the bug when playing with friends tonight

yeah u can see on my friend, ryan, there's a floating player head.

but then when i also emoted.. my morecompany cosmetics appeared on him and other people too.

hope ur 2.0.8 fix also fixed the cosmetics issue too... havent tested it yet. prob tomorrow i test.

[civic steeple]

where are those skins from?

are they from the same mod?

[graceful glade]

Yes, we've made them ourselves

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Mari0no1/TNSSLPrivateSuits/versions/

[limber elm]

Thank you!

[unborn quartz]

[scenic cave]

Is this issue the one with all players showing your cosmetics on them?

[fervent raft]

yes my cosmetics shows up on all of them

when i emote and enter third person perspective

(in flatscreen mode)

no wait actually if u look at my friend in white suit in the back of the video he’s unaffected and that’s possibly due to him having his own cosmetics.

so maybe my cosmetics only applies to people who don’t have any on

i’ll give more feedback when i test 2.0.8 tonight

[scenic cave]

Okay, sounds good! I remember when my mod used to show your cosmetics on other players, but that was fixed awhile ago. Should have been at least. I don't even remember why that happened, but I will check it out.

[exotic pond]

@scenic cave after the most recent update there's a lot of desyncs where emote audio just starts randomly playing

[fervent raft]

like no boombox or ship speaker around and it somehow plays?

[fervent raft]

unfortunately didn’t test yet, but tonight for sure. i got a friend to help out with multiplayer testing.

[exotic pond]

I disable those features

But someone kept getting desynced having the Best Mates audio play

and it's not the first time it's happened

other day someone joined and immediately had emote audio playing too

[tired light]

I noticed my player model doesn't appear to be rendered on ship cameras, only the nametag appears visible. This isn't very noticeable with the vanilla cameras, but its easier to see when using a mod that makes changes to them, like GeneralImprovements. Is this a bug or is it an unintended, unavoidable side-effect of how TooManyEmotes works? I scrolled through this thread and saw the mirror mod mentioned a few times, possibly same root cause?
@scenic cave

[fervent raft]

just tested 2.0.8 with a friend

okay the issues between MRapi, TME, and LCVR is all sorted out 👌 works flawlessly in VR

that cosmetic bug is still there however

[slate parcel]

Make this a feature? 😆

@scenic cave

[scenic cave]

Being outside the ship, or first person?

First person shouldn't be added yet

[slate parcel]

Was joking but I glitched the animations to first person

[scenic cave]

lol oh, I do have all of the logic for first person, just left out the option to switch to it. How did you glitch it?

[slate parcel]

Windowed mode > change size of window during animation

[fervent raft]

interestingly, the cosmetic bug also affected the LethalSnap mod too

here's a polaroid picture of my friend from that mod.

he has my cosmetics on in the pic, but ingame he had nothing on.

hopefully all this info gives u hints on whats going on.

this was tested in flatscreen.

OKAY testing in VR mode. 👇

^mirror decor mod

^lethalsnap mod

u can see on the polaroid camera screen he has my cosmetics on

lmk if u cant replicate this in flatscreen.. then ill have to look into what other mod may be causing this

[fervent raft]

oh yeah another thing

YMCA emote didnt have audio

[little goblet]

@scenic cave oh I had glitched into first person when I was in another's pack and they had the "Third person" mod. When going into third person and then hitting the button to go back into first person - your camera goes to first person with emotes

I'm actually shocked the world didn't conflict and implode with two mods actively taking control of the camera

[exotic pond]

@scenic cave any chance you can look into why the audio has been desyncing a lot after the most recent update? I've had cases where someone joins the lobby and starts playing emote audio, yesterday someone kept constantly getting stuck playing the audio from Best Mates even if they would play the emote then stop it would only temporarily fix it before it started again

It's super annoying

This didn't happen with 2.0.7 for us 😭

[fervent raft]

did downgrading to 2.0.7 fix it?

[exotic pond]

I'm not gonna downgrade it cus people in my group will just push update

But I'm saying

this 100% didn't happen

til 2.0.8 dropped

[fervent raft]

from what i know 2.0.8 only touches camera rendering stuff

[exotic pond]

I've been having this issue my past few times I've played after the 2.0.8 update released

[fervent raft]

to address a visual bug

[exotic pond]

Something else probably was unintentionally borked

It happens

[fervent raft]

unless flip messed with audio stuff without mentioning

[exotic pond]

I mean he's done updates to stuff before and something else unintentionally breaks

[fervent raft]

from my experience with 2.0.8, no audio desyncs

[exotic pond]

Well good for you

[fervent raft]

but still a visual bug that i’m not entirely sure is caused by TME

[exotic pond]

I have it set so the audio plays from the character not the boombox or speaker and for me it's been happening a lot since 2.0.8 dropped

To the point I'm considering removing it from my pack til this is fixed

😆

[fervent raft]

oh from the character?

[exotic pond]

Yes

[fervent raft]

maybe that’s why. i haven’t tested that.

[exotic pond]

2.0.7 it never happened

2.0.8 it's been almost constant

[fervent raft]

i’ll do some of my own testing later to see if i can replicate.

can i get a copy of ur TME config?

[exotic pond]

2.0.7 it happened once when someone dced while emoting but when they played the emote and stopped it was fixed and never happened again

[exotic pond]

Btw @scenic cave The Family Guy version of the Surfing Bird emote can be unmuted when using DMCA mode ^^ it's not copyrighted

[scenic cave]

Sorry, I skimmed over a lot of the convo, but did you disable emoting from boomboxes?

Wait

Yes, you did say that

One sec

[unborn quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/parasyte-lock-in-locked-in-serious-meme-gif-13189278796605253304

Hello Flip

[scenic cave]

Ayo

[unborn quartz]

Long time no see, how u doing buddy

[scenic cave]

Doing good!

[unborn quartz]

been loving the updates

[scenic cave]

Thanks! (you got a bug to report? 😂 I feel it)

[unborn quartz]

Nothing that I dont assume you already know

Weird muffled boombox audio from time to time