SCP: Facility (custom dungeon mod) [4.3.4]

[thorn atlas]

And even then only partially, and he doesn't know why

[celest trail]

oh man

[polar yoke]

the spray paint is an scp

[waxen oar]

Hey there, ran into some issues while playing with friends, not sure if some of this stuff has been reported before:

• The machine's sounds are global and can be heard all across the map, inside or outside
• Some mobs like mimics and thumpers cannot path between the sections of the map
• Some mobs can walk between otherwise closed doors (including ones that aren't openable by players, I think), specifically noticed this with the Nutcracker.

[delicate linden]

So with SCP dungeons specifically I'm having scrap loot tables being the mod set amount and trying to override it with mods isn't affecting it. Basically having very sparse scrap to collect

[coarse totem]

the upgrade machine is so awesome

this interior feels way bigger than others, but i believe thats mainly due to it not having multiple levels like the facotry or manor

is there any chance you could add transition tiles for a second floor so the tiles are more interconnected?

idk how easy that is but would go hard ||especially if a lower floor was connected via elvator like the LC_Office mod and had the aesthetic of the heavy containment zone||

[polar yoke]

i think heavy containment zone is planned as a seperate interior

[coarse totem]

Oh hell yeah

Both are dope af

[charred depot]

I've still been noticing numerous pathing and door issues

Also yeah 914 is audible everywhere lmao

[coarse totem]

Yeah those are well known

A lot of monsters (especially jesters) really struggle with the doors sometimes

[thorn atlas]

I believe the plan is not to have it as a separate interior, but as a separate wing that can generate and be unlocked behind a Keycard door. With some alternative as well in case a Keycard doesn't generate somewhere obtainable

Could be wrong tho

[inner acorn]

@lofty canyon can something like that work ? "all,Secret Labs@9999"

[lofty canyon]

not atm

[inner acorn]

would be very handy

[inner acorn]

an exclusion list would also be very cool

[coarse totem]

still plans for the funny electric gates?

[lofty canyon]

may include as a part of the update to doors

[coarse totem]

hell yea

those were always so funny in containment breach

[celest trail]

yep

[polar yoke]

bad drawing but i think i know the issue with enemies going through closed doors, the navmesh generator is calculating the cyan as a jump between two closed doors (the red)

[lofty canyon]

Hmm, that's very strange, is it those specific tiles in that configuration that you noticed the problem?

[polar yoke]

not those specific tiles, i have a screenshot of somewhere it happened though, let me find it

here. this was an old version, so there was floor between them, but i think this still happens

[lofty canyon]

Yeah at least that instance should be fixed since I trimmed that rooms' mesh down, there's a lot that's still need trimming (or a full rebuild of all the meshes into pro builder)

Moving everything to pro builder meshes might be next on the list after the door fixes, it'll solve a lot of the miscellaneous issues

It'll just be a giant pain

[echo dune]

@cedar raft has goated probuilder experience if you need help (maybe yall can trade probuilder help w/ dungen help 👀)

[cedar raft]

it can be quite a bitch to work with, cant say im a big fan of 2022 unitys probuilder but yeah im pretty versed in it

[lofty canyon]

If Kay wants to help out with the process it'd be appreciated, could split the work of all the rooms

[cedar raft]

i'm working on a comission though atm so my LC stuff is very low prio

i can give input tho

input\advice\etc

[lofty canyon]

Fair nuff, if I've got any pro builder Q's I'll come to you

[polar yoke]

what issues? i plan on making a dungeon myself at some point so it'd be useful to know if i have to make it with probuilder

[lofty canyon]

It's more problems with the meshes converted out of the SCP CB format that's the problem

[echo dune]

Once you have an established workflow probuilder is pretty chill to work with

[lofty canyon]

If you're building them yourself in blender properly they'll be fine

[polar yoke]

ah

i have little to no blender experience so i'll probably make it with probuilder anyways

[lofty canyon]

The main issues being the room exporter was ass with assigning face normals, textures weren't mapped properly and the coordinates were inverted from what Unity expects

[echo dune]

Also I assume being limited in your ability to create variations of rooms

[lofty canyon]

Could definitely make new rooms in the SCPCB room editor but they'd have the same problems as all the other rooms

Was also considering very slightly scaling everything down in moving to probuilder

Like changing room size from 20.48 to 20

[echo dune]

mm

[hard gale]

i feel like i remember hearing somewher that the apperatus is in the map

[polar yoke]

it's not, not yet

[inner acorn]

also, Titan@999 isnt working rn @lofty canyon

and when playing scp on titan (and mostly on all moons) there is barely nothing to find, only vanilla scrap worth like 29, really not worth for titan

[charred depot]

the interior shouldnt affect loot spawns

thats a moon thing

[lofty canyon]

Did you try a few times? 999 would be around 70% chance to spawn SCP so wouldn't be impossible to have the facility appear instead

And did the log mention anything?

[inner acorn]

3 times in a row i had the facility so might be jsut bad luck

[lofty canyon]

If 99999 doesn't work then there's probably something wrong

[inner acorn]

about the scrap, it seems that sometimes there is 0 modded scrap and realy poor value scrap, but next round i had modded scrap and decent value overall idk seem not very consistent

nothing particular in log

[charred depot]

you may have another mod affecting scrap spawns

[lofty canyon]

If a mod isn't configured to spawn on any of the 3 vanilla spawn types (or have no type assigned) it won't spawn, though that's more a problem for custom moons

[thorn atlas]

Might be known, but just FYI, Jester got completely stuck

[inner acorn]

i dont have any scrap mod

only custom moon that add scrap but not even as a separate mod

any good overall value for FoundationLengthOverride on titan rend and secret labs?

[inner acorn]

could this affect scrap spawn https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Azim/LethalPresents/ ?

[charred depot]

doubt it

[lofty canyon]

At a door?

[thorn atlas]

Mhm

[lofty canyon]

Yeah next update is reworking doors

[coarse totem]

hell yea

[snow scroll]

this mod gave Markiplier PTSD

[neon sun]

hey so how exactly dose the ||upgrade machine|| work?

[lofty canyon]

Thing goes in, thing comes out depending on the setting

[red yarrow]

In SCP Logic, It goes like this:

||Rough : Exchange the current item for one of MUCH less value, or for destruction||
||Coarse : Exchange the current item for one of less value||
||1:1 : Exchange the current item for one of equivalent value||
||Fine : Exchange the current item for one of greater value||
||Very Fine : Exchange the current item for one of MUCH greater value, or for destruction||

shit wait a sec

there we go

[coarse totem]

exchange a living human for [REDACTED]

[coarse totem]

||i did have a bug where a friend went into the machine and we cranked it on fine, and while a masked spawned in the output side, the dorrs were bugged shut, never to open||

[lofty canyon]

That should be fixed in the latest update

Wasn't handling destroyed items properly

[coarse totem]

oh nice, i handt rested that recently, maybe a coupla weeks ago

@lofty canyon also if you were planning on adding an apparatus room, that security room that 096 spawns in could work very well

[neon sun]

interesting

and the risk of using it is the item might be destroyed right?

ive used it with the combination of the "death note" item from a mod, not sure which

which allows me to send in the used notebook for another deathnote

really useful

tho maybe a bit exploitish

[charred depot]

https://tenor.com/view/true-feel-that-thats-true-feel-gif-26944000

[sour trellis]

Had an issue with this dungeon on the custom moon kast. It spawned the scp facility just for me and another custom dungeon for everyone else (WW1 Bunker from MoreInteriors)

Any idea what might cause it?

[fiery radish]

Make sure to use LethalExpansionCore and have configs synced up with players, LethalExpansion by itself and custom dungeons causes major headaches

[sour trellis]

I already am using LECore, so it shouldn't be that. I haven't edited LECore config files either

Also based scostman enjoyer spotted

[fiery radish]

Do you and the other players have the configs of SCP set to the same spawn values? I find the easiest way for myself is sharing mod profiles, I sort of curate the pack and update a discord channel pinned message code, funnily enough this was an inside joke among friends using hanna barbera cartoon profiles for a bit, this sorta stuck though

[sour trellis]

Hm. I am unsure if the spawn values are the same, I'll check tonight when I'm back home. That would probably be it though, since I edit the configs to let the custom interiors spawn on the higher tier moons

As fun as the game is, it desperately needs more interiors and monsters.

[fiery radish]

I've adored the game since the next fest demo in October, I don't think Zeekers was expecting the game to blow up the way it did, but in the quiet periods of early access these brilliant modders have been giving us what we crave

[zealous pasture]

so uhm

how is the mod doing with custom moons now?

[tall jetty]

has been doing good since LECore released

[minor bay]

Yes for client and server side mods you need the configs to match 100%
cause will cause desync with what spawns and how it is handled

[sour trellis]

Yeah I am guessing it did something weird with the seed and picking the map type.

I'll be sure my group has the exact same config file as me

[minor bay]

Ye that is what nice about profiles using the r2 modman is that it will match config settings and will share easy with profile code

You can also update a profile too

[sour trellis]

Yeah, with what I was told here, I am sure that the issue is i updated the config file after sharing the profile code

[minor bay]

Yeah would just need to share any changes to group and have them update or make new profile with profile code

[sour trellis]

Since I had the SCP facility set to 100 as the spawn chance, then changed it to 200 since it wasn't showing up as much as I wanted

[minor bay]

Yeah 300 is by default 50% on normal lethal moons

[sour trellis]

I play with a group of 5 to 8 usually so more hard maps is good, I already had to add the more monsters mod since my group has like 3 hyper competent players who can do stuff like "escape 4 coil heads"

Yeah, I have:
Scoopys Dungeon
Scp facility
More Interiors bunker

[minor bay]

And adding bunker and normal
Makes it
33% scp
33% bunker
33% normal

[sour trellis]

Might add that touhou scarlet mansion later.

[minor bay]

The more interiors I think the more
The number values change

It is basically a pool to pull from

[sour trellis]

Yep, it's like a gacha/lotto deal, 300=300 chances for it to be chosen

[minor bay]

If all are 300
Then it's like
20% SCP
20% bunker
20% factory
20% scoopys dungeon
20% touhou
1 % mansion

Landing on experimentation if all set to experimentation moon

If you want more then other either set before for less appearance or higher for more like above 300 works

[sour trellis]

Yeah, I like having the maps weighted properly. So for example, Kast, being a very hard moon, mostly spawns the regular facility and the scp facility based on the weights I gave them

And atlas abyss always spawns the dungeon

Sometimes the mansion.

It makes the moons more fun and flavorful that way

[echo dune]

Next LLL update you’ll be able to test your results in terminal

[minor bay]

Yeah hyped to see update 👍

[polar yoke]

friend stepped on a lethal things teleporter trap, this happened

[feral flame]

Lethal things teleporter traps reuse how the inverse teleporter works

[obtuse drum]

have you never had this happen to you?

has happened to me in regular facilities

[polar yoke]

ah

[polar yoke]

i know, but it would be wrong if i said we used an inverse teleporter

[feral flame]

I know, it's just to clarify that lethal things isn't an issue it's something with inverse teleporting, but this kind of thing happens in vanilla

[polar yoke]

👍

[zealous pasture]

Huh I'm confused. LECore was released before SCPDungeon and LECore was just ain't It. It was buggy with custom interiors.

So youre telling me that they updated It to fix that issue?

[tall jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-getting-comfy-idk-what-this-is-called-cat-getting-ready-to-sleep-gif-19541080

yes

everything works good now

cause I think the custom dungeon issue was sorted out like 1-2 days into LECore's thread creation here

[zealous pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/steam-happy-literally-me-woopa-hippy-gif-15080613585758560403

Ok so I should use this https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/jockie/LethalExpansionCore/ and not the original LE?

[tall jetty]

yeah

esp now that you can just not use le altogether without also uninstalling dependent mods

[zealous pasture]

Nice and what abt the fire exits with custom dungeons. Are they also fixed?

[tall jetty]

yes

[polar yoke]

would it be possible to make the intercom room's upper area be able to connect to other rooms? might add some verticality to the facility

[lofty canyon]

possible and was the case for earlier versions, but it messes with the alignment so I opted to remove it and all the other off-axis doorways

[polar yoke]

ah, alright

when you recreate the meshes maybe you could align the doors

[lofty canyon]

don't really know how that'd be possible given it's elevated

[polar yoke]

oh is the elevation the thing that isn't alligned

uh

align the elevation?

[coarse totem]

That would be super awesome to have stacked floors

Maybe someday

[lofty canyon]

don't really know what you mean, probably the best that could be done is a custom room that has enough elevation to clear the normal tiles and has the door aligned on the xz

[polar yoke]

this is what i mostly meant yes i worded it in a stupid way

[lofty canyon]

2.2.0

• Reprogrammed doors, should be less prone to navigation issues
• Fixed 914 global audio (hopefully for real this time)

SCP: Facility (custom dungeon mod) [2.2.0]

Oh also undocumented change since I changed it and forgot to test but have verified, spraypaint now functions

@fiery radish I think you were waiting on spraypaint working on this interior mod?

[vivid kiln]

THIS IS IT THE MISSING PIECE TO THE PERFECT INTERIOR MOD

Only other thing I can think of is an aparatus room

[lofty canyon]

not 100% on if I'll add an apparatus, seems like they're still being worked out from the networking issues I've heard of over at MoreInteriors; for now I'm pretty happy with the dungeon gimmick being SCP 914

[vivid kiln]

I'm in love with it. used it to kill masked lmao. I had it go in, hit it, and my buddy hit the button

masked came out dead

[lofty canyon]

huh that's not intended behaviour lol

I don't even know how that happened

[vivid kiln]

oh. i see. what was it supposed to do??? (it didn't go to the right room, it stayed in the left input door)

[lofty canyon]

right now there shouldn't be any interactions with enemies, the only defined actions are for players and items

[vivid kiln]

hmm. no idea

[lofty canyon]

if it was on rough/coarse and the masked came from a player maybe the damage function called on the player got passed over to the masked? no idea

[vivid kiln]

it was on rough

[fiery radish]

Thank you very much! 😍

[balmy ridge]

What does 914 even do I don’t really Understand it

[lofty canyon]

Object (or person) goes in, pick a setting, activate it, and it'll mutate the item based on the setting

[balmy ridge]

What should I really expect and what stuff should I try out
I’ve tried fucking around and not really much happened

[lofty canyon]

Super basic example is regular flashlight put through on fine turns it into a pro flashlight

And there's a bunch of different scrap that when put through turn into different scrap that roughly line up with what you'd expect

[quasi scaffold]

My friends still fell into void when entering facility

[lofty canyon]

Are you configs matching and are you using Lethal expansion

[fiery radish]

It's a bit niche but you can get yourself a shovel with a sign, and I like to turn engines/axels into smaller items if they're close

[balmy ridge]

Cool

[fiery radish]

Oh and most importantly

[lofty canyon]

I do wanna add more conversions but I can't think of any more reasonable sounding conversions

[fiery radish]

Turning keys into lockpickers

It's like a dream come true

[quasi scaffold]

LEC

Is that a problem?

[lofty canyon]

Expansion core should work

[quasi scaffold]

And no only generate chance had been modify to 1000000

We were testing the mod is stable or not.

[lofty canyon]

The config has to be identical for all players

[quasi scaffold]

Huh so the generate chance maybe will cause desync problem?

[lofty canyon]

Guaranteed to be the case if it's not the same for everyone

Which is the case for all custom interior mods right now since dungeon selection is client side via shared seed

[balmy ridge]

You said it does something to players

Does it just kill them

[lofty canyon]

On rough yes, the other settings have different effects though, you can find them out

[quasi scaffold]

Got it will test it tomorrow

[balmy ridge]

Sounds funny guess I’ll mess around a bit more

[paper condor]

nut cracker seems to get stuck in doors sadly :(

i had to close it to make him walk anywhere else

[lofty canyon]

Can you share a log if you have it from a game where it got stuck?

Added a bunch of logging just in case to the new door code so it might help

[paper condor]

dont know if i have it anymore, but i do see your door stuff in the logs

it seems to work well

[lofty canyon]

Would be weird if just nutcrackers broke and nothing else

[opal spear]

last time i tried this i just lost the sign lmao

also turning ||people into mimics|| is top tier

[devout yarrow]

Issue in the map i saw a really long time ago: friend falling through the floor and dying when he entered the facility

[lofty canyon]

using lethal expansion core and are configs synced

[devout yarrow]

no like everything was synced and i believe we had lethal expansion core but he'd just

fall

ill double check the expansion core real fast

[final ruin]

yeah everything should be fine if you have core

[lofty canyon]

if it was a while ago like pre-LLL it might have been before even that functioned

[devout yarrow]

oh aight

[rare adder]

so a question for the people who frequent this mod. do you feel like its slightly bugged regarding scrap spawns?

we had it spawn on march and walked all over the playable area we had generated and only found 75 out of 575 scrap value. is it possible its generating broken doors? or maybe some fire exits can lead to segmented areas?

[hard gale]

yea, honestly i reccomend only using this on high value moons liike titan

[fiery radish]

It seems to be the door sync thing again, to some enemies the door is just closed but open to players, I saw it a few times in the dungeon last night

Spraypaint is a blessing though

Love that it works now 💖

[lofty canyon]

That's annoying, do you have any logs I could look at? Can't think of what might be causing it

[fiery radish]

Nah sorry mate I've not got the logs, what I can say is that the enemies get stuck in the door frame, you can't hit them through the invisible door but if you press the button it syncs up again since it opens the invisible door and the visible one can't close on the enemy

[ionic flame]

To the person(s) working on this mod; Is it possible?

[rare adder]

i was gonna ask about tesla gates myself

[ionic flame]

this interior doesn't have bottomless pits like the vanilla, so tesla gates could be a good alternative

[rare adder]

but only if they can also hit entities

otherwise it's not lore accurate

also have to allow them to be disabled from the ship.

[ionic flame]

I don't think it would be too hard to have it hurt enemies

and instakill the player... obviously

[rare adder]

if possible allow them to be permanently disabled from the ship and enabled in the same fashion. as when MTF requests a tesla gate to be shut off it doesn't come back on

[coarse totem]

Tesla gates could just zap enemies to temporarily stun them

[ionic flame]

yes, surely this massive wall of electricity would not kill a hoarding bug

[rare adder]

^

now granted it doesn't kill SCP-106 but it does take him out for a bit

[ionic flame]

having it kill things would make it just as dangerous as the pits in default interior, and right now the only real danger in this interior is the enemies and turrets

environmental hazards spice up gameplay a bit

[rare adder]

as long as they don't get overused in the generation

having one in every other hallway could get tedious

[ionic flame]

it would make sense for them to be rare yea

[rare adder]

i once had a SCP:CB seed where i had 3 back to back tesla gates down a hall path. pain

[boreal charm]

i don't think they should be able to hit enemies

it makes sense for it to be able to, but its the same thing with the mines, you have to balance gameplay with realism

no fun to just walk all over the map and find a bunch of dead enemies without them even having a chance to get you

[ionic flame]

have tesla gates only be triggered by the player?

[boreal charm]

yeah i guess that could work

[rare adder]

jokes on you. i use fairai and barely any of them die

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-why-pepe-pepehands-crying-gif-12683546

[lofty canyon]

I'll patch up the door problem (figured out the what just working on the how, plus realised an issue with fast door opening logic being inverted), tesla gate might be a part of the reworked geometry pass just so thre's something new

[lofty canyon]

2.2.1

• Fix inverted logic for doors (and manually account for Thumper/Mimic door speeds)
• Fixed issue with doors opening normally networking incorrectly

SCP: Facility (custom dungeon mod) [2.2.1]

from my testing it seems like doors are fine now, at least as far as I can test solo

[coarse totem]

Hell yea, thanks!

[final ruin]

Idk if anyone else is having this issue, but I get stuck on the screen showing the map seed when landing at Secret Labs or Etern (Probably other moons but I dont want to test all my moons) with the SCPDunGen set to 9999 on both . The SCPDunGen works fine on Titan, and other interiors work on both Secret Labs and Etern, so based on purely assumption because I am too lazy to check extensively, that it is getting stuck on specifically modded moons, for some reason (Probably a mod conflict).

Mod Profile Code (122 Mods): 018d548c-529d-7c76-c7ac-be131b22b739

Log File (Trying to land on Etern):

[lofty canyon]

pretty weird, saying that there's a null reference being used when there's guards against that all over

[lofty canyon]

is it consistent for you? I can load in just fine using that profile code

[final ruin]

hmm

You know maybe the save Im using is just messed up

but it is consistent on the save Im using

Ill try a new save

wow yeah

a new save worked

shucks I cant use my favorite save anymore

[lofty canyon]

yeah something in there is being really weird, that log doesn't make any sense to me

[sharp zinc]

Looking forward to messing with the machine SCP when I eventually find it

[fiery radish]

Just wondering but are there any plans for heavy containment? 👀

[lofty canyon]

I want to fix up the geometry first and add the Tesla gate, after that HC is on the list

[sharp zinc]

The tesla gates are like terminal doors, yeah? That's what it sounded like anyway, from what I read

[sharp zinc]

If I could add my own configs I could make a whole modpack with 914 at the center of obtaining the endgame items from different mods

[lofty canyon]

Not really any concrete plans yet but the idea is

• Tesla gate activates when a player gets near, killing them instantly if they stand in it when it zaps
• Can be disabled like turrets by terminal operator
• if it activates when an enemy is in it, it will deal a bit of damage and stun for a second (if either applicable)

[lofty canyon]

Custom 914 config is also on the radar

[sharp zinc]

Ah. So it's kind of a door you might be able to pass alone if you are quick about it but are better off with a ship operator

[lofty canyon]

Pretty much, if you're smart or fast you can get through but if you're hauling it'll be much more difficult/impossible without terminal assistance

[sharp zinc]

I kinda cheated my way into testing clockwork as part of a test to make sure the laser gun was working and found you can dupe equipment on fine setting. IDK if that's intentional or not but I love it and it already makes me think what the most efficient way to spend a day mass producing equipment would be in my pack

[lofty canyon]

Anything going into the input of 914 is supposed to be destroyed/converted such that nothing remains in the input so that's unintentional

[sharp zinc]

Nothing was left in the input, but 3 zap guns came out the other side. That wasn't on purpose?

Oh sorry not zap guns

Laser guns

I thought that applied to everything and fine setting just made more items if it didn't have a recipe

[lofty canyon]

Default behaviour is it just rerolls the scrap value for items that don't have a specific conversion

Which isn't affected by the setting

[sharp zinc]

huh... kinda odd then. Might be a lethal laser specific bug or something

I was thinking how I could use that to mass produce tzp or spray paint. Wait, does it refill empty cans of items? That at least could still be useful if intended

[lofty canyon]

Charge based items do recharge on 1:1 or better, and are discharged on less than that

Could check canister items too, though they might be too specific for cross mod compat

[sharp zinc]

True, mod compat has to be a nightmare

[final ruin]

ok bro

[wind cargo]

Looks like a skill issue to me

[lofty canyon]

they just wanna know what you're converting, no biggie

[final ruin]

Yeah I didnt get a chance to do that'

[sharp zinc]

Convert the coilhead. Do it

[sharp zinc]

Also re: this, I wonder if you could sort of create a soft compat with some mods by having the clockwork create a new instance of an item if no recipe exists. If a mod has a consumable item that might be a way to refill it without having to check for canisters. If it's not already a thing. I haven't gotten to test MUCH of the lab yet, I wanna save some stuff for survival

The hard part is living long enough in solo to reach titan

[tall jetty]

hmmm, considering how scarlet devil does it's custom enemy variants with the knights, maybe you could do something similar with peanut?

[lofty canyon]

the default behaviour is supposed to handle unrecognised items, even from mods (cirno fumo at least seemed to go through fine)

oh yeah woo

[polar yoke]

what is @ ?

[lofty canyon]

"@" means it makes a copy of the item (tweaking basic attributes e.g. scrap value, battery). "*" destroys the item

[polar yoke]

epic

[final ruin]

I think it would be funny if when you get enemies working with this, the toy robot will spawn a turret if set to very fine

[lofty canyon]

dunno how feasible it is to have custom conversions for enemies or other things but will see

[polar yoke]

nah toy robot would spawn a nutcracker

[polar yoke]

hope it is plausible

[final ruin]

maybe a turret would be fine and a nut cracker would be very fine?

[polar yoke]

put the turret in on coarse for a landmine

[sharp zinc]

Nice. Sorry if I suggest something that already existed I literally have not gotten to actually test the clockworks.

Aside from my cheaty test file I regret even doing

[lofty canyon]

Well that was a fast turnaround for a feature

2.3.0

• Added json-based custom conversions for SCP 914

Also while I can't really test it, I'm fairly certain that SCP 914 conversion setup is serverside, so the host doesn't need to share 914 configs with everyone, it will only respect the hosts' configuration

SCP: Facility (custom dungeon mod) [2.3.0]

[lofty canyon]

(if someone can test this for me it'd be appreciated)

[quick jungle]

Oohh I feel like I never seen SCP 914, is it a new added ones?

or it has been there since the beginning

[lofty canyon]

It's been in for a few weeks now

[jovial badge]

Does the recipes folder go in the base BepInEx directory?

[rare adder]

There's a mod to turn coil heads into peanut

[jovial badge]

I wish that mod had an option to make it a separate spawn, would love to be able to disable vanilla coilhead in SCP and enable that one to replace

[tall jetty]

im referencing this

the whole gig with it spawning from a prop

[lofty canyon]

It needs to be in a folder called "badhamknibbs-scp914-recipes" which itself is in a folder in your plugins folder

I think thunderstore messed up the directory setup though

[lofty canyon]

2.3.1

• Fix file structure in Thunderstore for SCP 914 recipes (no changes to mod file)
• Changes to documentation/install instructions

[balmy ridge]

if I use the FoundationLengthOverride config option does it still dynamically change with moon size or no

[lofty canyon]

Yeah, it still gets multiplied by the moon scalar hence the warning about setting it too high

[balmy ridge]

ok nice

[devout yarrow]

is anyone else experiencing the new ugly scroll bar

for discord*

yk maybe i shouldnt ask that here-

[echo dune]

@lofty canyon found via some upcoming validation checks

[Info   :LethalLevelLoader] Audio Restoration Warning: SCPStartRoom Has Missing ReverbPreset
[Info   :LethalLevelLoader] Audio Restoration Warning: SCPStartRoom Has Missing ReverbPreset
[Info   :LethalLevelLoader] Audio Restoration Warning: SCPStartRoom Has Missing ReverbPreset
[Info   :LethalLevelLoader] Audio Restoration Warning: SCPStartRoom Has Missing ReverbPreset

not sure if matters but

[lofty canyon]

weird, should be fine, there are reverb presets in it

[hushed wing]

if I want the dungeon to generate on all moons i have ingame at 150 and secret labs to guarantee, can I use string "all@150,Secret Labs@9999" ?

[boreal charm]

just set the general rarity to 150 and then do Secret Labs@99999

[hushed wing]

does it apply to modded moons too, the general rarity?

[boreal charm]

actually, i think i was mistaken. pretty sure if you're doing list you will have to list every planet individually. the general rarity will apply to all moons that don't have a specified weight though

[sharp zinc]

I really wanna get into custom recipes for this mod. If a json lists a conversion to an item that doesn't exist, what does it do?

Basically can i include soft mod dependencies in my json or will it break?

[ancient nebula]

if I wanna change the recipe of an existing item that is already in the default json, do I modify the default json or will creating another json (as is instructed in the readme) and defining the recipes there override the original?

[lofty canyon]

you can edit the default config if you want to remove a default conversion, if you add conversions for an item that already has an entry in a different json the results will be combined

[ancient nebula]

Will there be any sync issues or something like that if I do and not everyone has the same json? I see in the readme that it's not recommended to edit the original one

[lofty canyon]

I'm pretty sure it'll be fine, all the 914 setup is done serverside as is the conversion process so it should just respect the hosts' config only

haven't been able to test it though

[sharp zinc]

Also what if items are listed but not installed?

[ancient nebula]

Oh alright then, thanks!

[sharp zinc]

And is there a simple way to obtain an items code name?

[lofty canyon]

if you use an invalid input item it'll give a console error as a warning but will just skip it otherwise, if there's an invalid output item it'll be treated as a * (i.e. will destroy the item if it gets picked as the output)

[sharp zinc]

oh ok

So I SHOULD make an lgu.json, a lethalthings.json etc. but a misc.json can mostly work for small mods

I wanna make all the mods compatible thru clockworks

[lofty canyon]

yeah you can set it up however you like, there's no restrictions on what is in each json so you can either split it up by mod or just throw all your custom conversions into 1 big json

[sharp zinc]

Yeah

[lofty canyon]

also I'd recommend asking whatever dev to add the conversions themselves to include with their mod

[sharp zinc]

Is it hard to bundle json recipes into the mod? I don't know about asking them to make it a feature but I definitely support it if they do

I feel like it's ok to have OP recipes with the clockworks because in the actual SCP universe it's MEANT to be OP. It turned a gun into a super laser gun, didn't it? I only vaguely know about most of the SCP world but I watched a video on clockworks

Ingame it's balanced because titan is 700 credits for 3 chances to stumble upon scp, find the machine and ferry items to and from

Which will only become more of a problem as this mod progresses and new dangers are added, I'm sure

[lofty canyon]

nah it's pretty easy, just needs the directory to be set up correctly for mod loaders

[sharp zinc]

And the json literally uses the item name as it appears in the shop or on the scan tooltip, right?

[lofty canyon]

yep

[sharp zinc]

Nice

[sharp zinc]

My conversions aren't working for lgu. Peeper doesn't become radar booster, portable teleporter can't be upgraded etc.

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here

can a result just be []?

To not have any effect?

[lofty canyon]

It has to have a value in it, to do no conversion use "@"

[sharp zinc]

Alright

[lofty canyon]

Also check the log to make sure it's being loaded, it'll tell you on start up if it loaded correctly

And if there is a problem with the json it'll point you to the invalid line/column

[sharp zinc]

AHA

Yea, it never loaded. TY

[sharp zinc]

Oh my god I'm an idiot. I got the names wrong and thought they were just differently named in the store but no, I just don't pay attention.

[polar yoke]

does only the host need a 914 recipes file?

also, does anything specifically break if you touch the default recipes file?

[sharp zinc]

Should only need the hosts configs

[polar yoke]

epic

what happens if two files add conversions for the same item?

[sharp zinc]

Also I just realized ||upgrading flashlights might be really strong. 15 credits per flashlight can be turned into well over a hundred credits worth per lamp||. Justified imo given the nature of the SCP, but definitely gamebreaking.

I think they combine outputs?

Two outputs in one result file makes it a weighted chance for either to occur. I think this still happens if more than one file is used to create said output

[lofty canyon]

If there's multiple outputs it picks one at random, with the odds being determined by how frequently the same item is in the list

Like if the outputs for an item are [flashlight, flashlight, soda] it'll be 2/3rds chance of flashlight, 1/3rd chance soda

And it combines all the outputs from all custom recipe files

[hard gale]

it would be cool if u added custom scp enemies that replaces the ingame creatures like scarlet devil mansion did with the coilhead head.

Will def make the interior be way more epic

then it already is

[lofty canyon]

I don't really wanna bloat this mod for people who just want the dungeon

And others are already adding their own SCP enemies, whom I may be working with for special behaviour

[sharp zinc]

Not possible, we have clockworks

..ok, maybe possible. idk what is meant by "heavy containment"

Also yea literally just add the scp enemies mods. Replace coilheads with peanut, scopophobia, etc. Clearly whoever was running the scp facilities was forced to abandon so maybe the scps are now free to go planet to planet. Or something.

[hard gale]

idk im not a scp fan so im not sure, just thought it would be cool

[hard gale]

makes sense, but I dont think there is a way to use those to only work on this dungeon

mainly the peanut

[final ruin]

I wish the coilhead scp173 was synced with other players

[hard gale]

its not?

[final ruin]

no

I think someone said they were gonna update it to make it so

but they havent

[lofty canyon]

If the dev for 173 coilhead wants to they could probably make it work on their end by checking the dungeon flow name for "SCPFlow" and change things accordingly

Wouldn't be as easy to handle on my side especially since enemies aren't handled by dungeons

[hard gale]

yea or by moons would be nice

I only use this dungeon on certian moons

as well as all my dungeons

[trail arch]

Could you please Add the Aparatus (Reactor) to the map because some of you might know the Meltdown mod and theres another mod that plays the SCP music while meltdown so it would match perfectly with the map.

Heres the mods i was talking about
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/loaforc/FacilityMeltdown/

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/sapphlre/SCPSecretLaboratoryEscapeMusic/v/1.0.1/

[fiery radish]

The SCP apparatus should be something to do with the warhead room from Containment Breach

[trail arch]

Great idea

[thorn atlas]

From my discussions a while back, they're currently working on making the variants networked, and making it so multiple variants can work at the same time if they all use similar code (for example, 173, Weeping Angel, and FNaF Endo were the ones in discussion).

[final ruin]

yea

I think the dev said they are far away from their home

[thorn atlas]

Valid

[deep garden]

Im unsure whether or not this is already a feature but I was messing around with a friend with 914, and it'd be interesting for coarse to result in the character outputting a masked men?
apologies if that is the case we only chose rough and perished.

[deep garden]

thanks phonk im running on sleepy rn

[tall jetty]

i think that enemy conversion isnt a thing yet

[torn crow]

theres some mods that make them interactible to eachother, but their not enhanced yet aka not much in it

[fiery radish]

Try very fine, we had a funny one on that

[white hill]

got a question, using this config FoundationMoonsList = paid,Secret Labs@9999 will work? like, I don't have to list every paid custom moon right?

[devout yarrow]

no you dont

should be able to just put modded anyways

also 914 is lit

just

dont put a player on very fine

put a walkie on fine tho

[white hill]

I just didn't want to add every modded moon, or having to edit the config everytime I add a new moon just cuz I want labs to be 100%

[lofty canyon]

That config doesn't work right now, LLL is getting a massive config overhaul which I'll use which should have options for stuff like that

[white hill]

btw ou have a typo there https://github.com/Badhamknibbs/SCPCB_DunGen_LC/blob/main/SCPCBDunGen/Plugin.cs#L156, iDefaultRarity should be iRarity 👀

[lofty canyon]

Oops, well it's only a logging error it'll still function fine

[white hill]

yea, just a typo

perhaps arMoonNames[i] should also be arMoonNameRarity[0] in that same line

[lofty canyon]

Ah yeah, not breaking issues at least

[deep garden]

its not enemy conversion its kill and remove the body of player who walked into 914 and spawn masked at the position of output

[coarse totem]

gotta say im very happy with the place this mod is in, and how much fun its been to play with the friend group
@lofty canyon thanks again for making this great mod!

[lofty canyon]

Np, had a short break but I'd like to get back into working on stuff

[dark ether]

Just had an odd issue where the facility was abnormally bright inside

not sure if this was caused by the moon or not since I was pairing this with Secret Labs. It was also abnormally dark outdoors as if the moon was eclipsed, but the weather said it was clear

[tall jetty]

whats the moon?

[celest trail]

secret lab, they said it alr..

i have this issue before i think it was from the moon side? but back then when it happen the clock is only available indoor instead of outdoor
they patched it and i never see the outside light indoor anymore
dunno about your case tho

[dark ether]

I can try making the post in the secret lab thread as well

Wasn't really sure which mod it could've been from since the lightings seem to have been switched

[tall jetty]

ah i must be blind

weird, never had that issue there

[tall jetty]

i had that happen to me with that one spectator mod that adds night vision

[dark ether]

I do have a night vision mod installed for testing purposes, but there's no spectator mode to it and out of all the moons I went to, this was the only interior that this happened with

[tall jetty]

can you try testing without nightvision mod maybe?

[dark ether]

I'll test that right now

[dark ether]

Doesn't seem like that's fixed it

the outdoor lighting seems to be correct this time though

[dark ether]

Not sure what I did, but somehow I messed it up even more :')

None of the custom audios for the doors will play now

[lofty canyon]

would need a modlist to know if there's any conflicts, or you can do the ol binary search test to find what mod is messing stuff up

[dark ether]

018d8042-315c-9ed0-b7ff-058baaa58b8b

Not sure what the binary search is, sorry :')

[obtuse drum]

disable half of your mods if the issue happens re enable and test half of the half you didn't disable if the issue doesn't happen re enable half and then you just keep going

[dark ether]

Ooh that method. Never knew it had a name

[polar yoke]

anyone got any good 914 presets?

[balmy ridge]

Default

[thorn atlas]

Hey @lofty canyon any idea why this would be happening?

[torn crow]

for that interior an @ needs to be added

[lofty canyon]

I think I just made a mistake in the logging

[torn crow]

Infernis@xx

[lofty canyon]

pretty sure it's working but made a typo in the log stuff

[thorn atlas]

Bolty read the moon registers, they definitely have @s lol

Alright, I'll trust ya since I haven't had any issues with SecretLabs before

[torn crow]

did you put list?

hmm

[thorn atlas]

putting list is no longer required with new SCP config

you just list OR use a preset

[sharp zinc]

I set up one for LGU so far. Been meaning to do more but keep getting distracted

[polar yoke]

ooh, can i see?

[sharp zinc]

Here ya go

IDK if the dev wants people to share their configs in this channel, I will gladly delete this message if it takes up space.

[lofty canyon]

Idm, if the setup is for a specific mod I'd recommend suggesting that they add it to their mod (skullcrusher is gonna add custom conversions for ooblterra scrap)

[sharp zinc]

I would love if there was official compat for clockworks with like everything. I have yet to reach titan in my non-cheaty endeavors but I will definitely be looking forward to reaching scp in survival

The flashlight to laser pointer conversion is unbelievably good since I have lasercontrol

[lofty canyon]

Whole idea behind json recipes was to make compat as seamless as possible, also possible to create a mod that is just custom recipes

I'd like to have full compat with fumo company, would be fun and useful to get the fumos desired with 914

[polar yoke]

'no man you don't get it you gotta go in there on rough to see if we get a fumo for it'

[sharp zinc]

Cause of death: molecular anihilation

I don't have the fumo mod but I know there's some meme sword made of fumo, what if you could put a fumo in the clockwork on very fine and get the sword?

(I only know this because there was a video of someone attacking a mimic fire escape and getting absolutely anihilated for it)

Sometimes mods don't need direct compatibility. Sometimes the compat happens on accident.

[midnight knoll]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Clemonade_Stand/ClemsSCP914Patch/

I'm still trying to figure out the file structure but the script itself works

Gonna work on MoreInterior and Wesley Moons scrap at some point

[lofty canyon]

In your mod root directory (where all the thunderstore info files are) you need to make the folder structure go (ROOT)/BepInEx/plugins/badhamknibbs-whateverthenamewasiforgot/jsons go here

That makes thunderstore build the correct file paths using a mod loader. If installing manually, make a folder in plugins called whatever you want, then the badhamknibbs-etc folder in that, then put your jsons in there

[midnight knoll]

waiting on the thunderstore update but i think i got it

[lofty canyon]

You can check the console to see if it got picked up right as you launch the game

[midnight knoll]

also, do the custom scripts override your default?

or would I have to just name mine default?

[lofty canyon]

They're combined

[midnight knoll]

:/

[lofty canyon]

Currently no way to disable the default config, might add if it's something you want

[midnight knoll]

Yes please

wasn't thinking about that when making the script and was just changing the default one originally, I changed alot of what you had

[thorn atlas]

Do your patches need any other mods, Clem? If not I might check em out cuz I always like the idea of moar shit

[midnight knoll]

The script has sections where the other mods are included

Although I made the script with the intention with those mods being used

So there might be some weird results if one isn't used but nothing gamebreaking

I might make it more friendly with Coarse,1:1,Fine all having a "@"

[sharp zinc]

Trying to convert to an item that doesn't exist destroys the item

[thorn atlas]

Eh, only if you want to, I'm only gonna use it if I like all the conversions haha

[sharp zinc]

Which should honestly have a config setting

[thorn atlas]

Mhm. Should just convert to the same item if the conversion fails, or scrap it maybe

[midnight knoll]

so then yeah

im doing that anyways

[thorn atlas]

Let me turn my empty rocket launcher into scrap metal

[midnight knoll]

with ALL the items

[sharp zinc]

Why scrap metal

Add conversion from rocket launcher to shotgun. Or better, lethal lasers laser gun

[thorn atlas]

I mean, 1:1 rocket launcher could also just refill it

That'd be dope af

[sharp zinc]

It does that

[thorn atlas]

Since Rocket Launchers be expensive

Does it work with modded items with their own ammo?

[sharp zinc]

True. Wait, last I checked the default was 300 something, did that get changed?

It should

I think

[thorn atlas]

Cuz I remember trying to stick a modded scrap in there and it vanished entirely

[midnight knoll]

The ammo doesn't matter, it just spawns a "new" item

[lofty canyon]

It should just return the item, item destruction isn't intended (except for some specific instances)

[sharp zinc]

Sometimes I noticed items end up on TOP of the machine output

[thorn atlas]

I checked that, had that happen before too

So unless it was clipped into the top, which is possible

[sharp zinc]

Huh? Maybe that was before I noticed items ending up on top

[thorn atlas]

I'll have to mess with 914 some more and get back to you

[sharp zinc]

Actually no, when I put the recipe for radar boosters in wrong it trashed the recipe

[thorn atlas]

Unfortunately 914 is a bitch to test cuz finding it isn't exactly guaranteed even when you do get SCP

[lofty canyon]

Items spawning on top is known but a bit weird to fix since it's nav mesh related

[sharp zinc]

I put experimentation at 9999 into the config while testing. Plus you can shrink the dungeon

[thorn atlas]

Just tell the Navmesh "no, bad"

[lofty canyon]

That plus using Lethal config to disable enemy spawns is how I tested

[thorn atlas]

and spray it with water

[lofty canyon]

And using Unity explorer to just noclip to the dungeon to see if 914 spawned before going in

[sharp zinc]

Wait sometimes it doesn't spawn?

[thorn atlas]

Mhm, it's not guaranteed, it's just a room

Is it possible to make a room always spawn at least once with DunGen? @lofty canyon

Messed around with its documentation a tiny bit but decided to wait for LLL documentation before continuing

[lofty canyon]

You can up the odds but technically impossible to guarantee

[thorn atlas]

That's what I thought

[echo dune]

https://tenor.com/view/curb-your-enthusiasm-larry-david-confused-unsure-undecided-gif-3294343

[thorn atlas]

Batby should just rewrite all of DunGen clearly

[lofty canyon]

Batby just makes lethal company 2

With integrated mod support

[thorn atlas]

Now with Electric Boogaloo Eels

[timid quiver]

I think the special tile injection is specifically to allow you to do that

[lofty canyon]

Ah that's probably how SDM does their exit hence the long generation time

[timid quiver]

What's SDM? 😅

[lofty canyon]

Scarlet Devil Mansion

[thorn atlas]

It's certainly a factor, but I'm pretty sure there are other factors too

[wind cargo]

The long gen time was actually just the dungeon making 3 main paths on a heavily conjested space

Special tile injection isn't all the slow (since you can give the tile some leeway on when it spawns). It won't give you slow load times like me since my issue is really just the bounding box

[minor bay]

Makes sense since I had same problem early on it would take a while and create the dungeon or fail since it Detects the tiles colliding with the bounding box

Unless you are talking out the outside parts in your map where you made a outside bounding box

[sharp zinc]

Someone in mod ideas came up with an idea for me, SCP 426! I'm a toaster that makes people refer to me in the first person! I would be a perfect frickery item to come across in the facility!

[small stream]

I mean, you can't really change how people talk in voice chat, so would it even do anything besides be a toaster?

[sharp zinc]

True, but there were other ideas about how to pull of my tomfoolery! Like making the player switch to my pov whenever they get too close to me- they still control themselves but see themselves from my perspective! Other ideas involved slowly making toast hallucination scrap that disappear after a round, making them unable to move and see themselves from 3rd person and more!

I can't control the voice speech without flat out silencing affected players, but there are plenty of ways to make them say "holy shit, I'm a toaster!"

...I dunno. I saw the suggestion and thought it would also be a great suggestion for this mod, as one of the sillier SCPs I know about.

I would be a high value scrap with a low spawnrate! That way encounters with me are a rare treat and not a frequent nuisance

...Though given I'm a two handed item and force your camera to point at yourself, good luck seeing where you're going without a guide

(Not exactly what ShadowMe suggested but the general idea of me being a hard-to-collect scrap is definitely solid)

[analog girder]

did the glitch where other players would fall the floor get fixed? (this was like a month ago)

[lofty canyon]

should be fixed

[analog girder]

alright thanks

[warm wind]

so does anybody know what 914 does?

it bugged my friend on very fine after he respawned

he was also turned into a masked

fine did nothing to my flash light

and rough killed a shovel

[sharp zinc]

||It changes items||

In actual SCP lore it ||turns one item into another item following the theme. For example a gun could be turned into a better gun||

In this mod you can do stuff like ||turning keys into lockpickers and basic flashlights into pro flashlights||, my favorite feature being the json recipe system for custom mod item conversions.

It's so simple and yet so much potential

[boreal charm]

i recommend reading this if you're curious about what it does/how it works
https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-914

[white hill]

having an issue with this mod

FoundationMoonsList = TitanLevel@100,RendLevel@100,DineLevel@100,Secret Labs@99999 I've got this config but on Secret Labs it never appears

from the logs I found this

[Info   :LethalLevelLoader] Trying To Find All Matching DungeonFlows For Level: Secret Labs
Potential DungeonFlows Collected, List Below: 
Facility - 300, SDMLevel - 0, BunkerFlow - 0, OfficeDungeonFlow - 0, CastleFlow - 0, SCPFlow - 0, 

SelectableLevel - Secret Labs Level Tags: Custom, 

DungeonFlow 6. : SCPFlow - Matched Secret Labs With A Rarity Of: 100 Based On Planet Name!

Matching DungeonFlows Collected, Count Is: 2``` am I missing something 🤔

[torn crow]

SecretLabs@X
SecretLabsX

no space :)

[white hill]

that wasn't the issue, it seems I had an outdated version

updated to latest version and now it works

I've also found something weird, but I'm unsure if it's related to this mod or Secret Labs, but I have a vague memory of Secret Labs having 3 fire exists and now it has 1, I'm unsure if it's because of the moon or this interior or it was just changed in the latest version?

[final ruin]

Secret Labs had 2

and now it only has 1

Actually Secret Labs may have had 3 but it was probably right when it first came out

[white hill]

I remember it had one just in the road where the ship landed, and another in the gate A which is still there, I have a vague memory of having another exit fire but I don't remember where exactly

Feels sad it now has only 1 :/

[strong frigate]

If I want to use this facility do I need to downgrade LLL

or even downgrade this mod too

[white hill]

It works fine with latest LLL

[lofty canyon]

Pretty sure it works with the latest version, I just haven't updated yet

[fiery radish]

Yep works latest version, I updated everything in my pack yesterday and played a bunch

Only thing I've seen problems with right now are LE moons, or I'm just saying that because Callisto froze on the seed and we haven't tried kast

[sharp zinc]

LE moons are all free rn

Idk if they actually load

[warm flax]

Keeping into the SCP theme, it would be cool to see rare SCP scrap with function. Maybe like 268 where the player cant turn invisible for a short time
a bit like https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1193285845965353010 but with function

Maybe even add the birthday cake with the ability to change players voices and models (although this would probably be a huge challenge)

[lofty canyon]

Was considering making an SCP scrap mod, though it wouldn't be linked to this mod

[sharp zinc]

If you do, maybe the two could have compatibility in that the scp scrap spawns much more often in the lab? IDK enough about mods to know if that's a reasonable idea or if it would just be ghost girl levels of headache

[lunar lodge]

should add the toilet butt ghost (scp 789-J) in one of the bathrooms as a rare spawn, and if you jump in it you get sucked in

https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-789-j

[thin bough]

So I put FoundationMoonsList like this

But when I open the game I got this in the logs

Am I stupid?

All the moons have rarity 100?

I realized that I was having the interior of the SCP more than the others

[lofty canyon]

I made a typo in the logging, it should work fine

[bronze mortar]

Not sure if anyone asked about this, but I'd like to suggest level restriction to gates with card scraps if possible.

[cerulean adder]

what

[thorn atlas]

It's been mentioned but seems like if it's included, it will only be to Heavy Containment, or an alternative way will be added for balance / gameplay purposes. Keycard doors are a lot more brutal on a game with limited time and random scrap spawns, imagine walking down one hallway and needing a Level 3 card that didn't spawn until later in the dungeon due to DunGen's code

And forcing it to generate over and over until a "valid" seed generates

Is not a good idea

[strong frigate]

what version of SCP facility do i need with LLL 1.0.7

[lofty canyon]

Latest should still work with that version

[sharp zinc]

Does this mod actually break with the new lll? I haven't had a chance to check

Titan is too scary for me rn.

[thorn atlas]

It's worked in my experience

[sharp zinc]

Cool

[lofty canyon]

Current plan is to have HC take up half the dungeon, with a locked gate between them that can be opened only by either the terminal person or by converting a key into a keycard

[sharp zinc]

ooh

I'm assuming Heavy Containment means mega dangerous enemies or something

[lofty canyon]

I'd like it to be more effort on the part of the terminal method but I'm not sure how it'd work

[sharp zinc]

Don't show the code to open heavy containment on the monitor

Instead, several codes on the wall in various sections of the dungeon

Maybe?

[lofty canyon]

It's a bit more dangerous in that the area is thinner, has death pits, etc but enemies and whatnot aren't changed in hc

[sharp zinc]

Ah

[thorn atlas]

Maybe have a computer or sticky note near Heavy Containment with an "emergency override code" for Heavy Containment. Something you have to physically go there for and find

[sharp zinc]

Oh, yea

I was gonna say a few computers around the area with codes on them but maybe it's best for just one code

[lofty canyon]

That sounds good and pretty achievable

[thorn atlas]

For ease of inserting purpose, just make it part of the Heavy Containment room so you don't have to add any separate generation crap

Forces player communication if you want in without a keycard

[lofty canyon]

Another idea was a lever that spawns in the electrical tile that needs to be activated to allow opening the gate

[thorn atlas]

Could work, but only if the electrical tile is guaranteed to be before Heavy Containment and always spawn

[sharp zinc]

To prevent incompatibility with turning keys into ||lockpickers||, maybe one is fine and the other is very fine

[lofty canyon]

Electrical room is exclusive to LC, can boost the odds

[lofty canyon]

Items can have multiple conversion results, already the case for a lot of items

[echo dune]

why not two dungeons

[lofty canyon]

The logistics of connecting the two would probably be a blocker (plus it's already set up like that in the game anyway)

Though secondary dungeon for stuff like the maintenance tunnels wouldn't be out of the question

Since there's already a bunch of tiles I'm leaving out that rely on going through the maintenance tunnels, which would be cool to implement

There's also the question of how big can a dungeon get before it's so big it's unexplorable in the time limit

[minor bay]

I know that 🙂

Which is why I am reworking the generation
For the bunker

120 tiles + is what I found out
Hard to get anywhere deep solo
4 people can almost do it

[minor bay]

You can make it possible with archetypes instead of a whole new flow
DunGen let's you add more sections of map using it would just need a connecting adapter tile to act as a in-between

[lofty canyon]

Yeah that's the current plan for HC

[minor bay]

But yeah huge dungeons would only be possible if the time limit was increased

[lofty canyon]

Though maintenance tunnels are connected via elevator

[minor bay]

Oh nice

[lofty canyon]

So it'd make more sense for that to be it's own dungeon

[minor bay]

Yeah true

[lofty canyon]

@echo dune just curious, would there be some way to say count how many times a given tile appears in dungeon A, and adjust the properties of the dungeon B to match?

[minor bay]

The runtime dungeon in the editor does this counts all the tiles
When you select what the root gameobject
But yeah that would be Cool being able to do that.
Matching the size of different dungeons

[lofty canyon]

I'd need the count of a specific tile, not a total of all

[minor bay]

Oh gotcha

👍

[lofty canyon]

Could just get all as a quick and dirty method but ideally there'd be some better way

[echo dune]

is this in the context of asking me to add something to LLL or just in general

[lofty canyon]

Just in general

[echo dune]

yeah

[lofty canyon]

Maintenance tunnels are probably far out from addition for now

[echo dune]

lets split the question up into getting and setting

getting on initial thoughts i/you etc would just prefix patch the dungen function that actually instansiates objects and handles the counting using that info imo

because it can be a little hard to consistency compare prefab assets to prefab instances

setting is just like, modifying a dungeonflow ofc. which sounds a little finnicky to do via code

no immediate red flags

if its something i ever added to LLL i would maybe make a like GetTileReport() function that returns a Tile,int dictionary for you maybe

If LLL theoretically did work for you in this regard, what would either of you two expect from LLL?

like ideally

[lofty canyon]

My first thought would be something like an event after each dungeon is created that a mod can hook into to check the properties of the most recent dungeon created and gather properties about it

And that lets it tweak the upcoming dungeon data to match

[echo dune]

mhmm ok

[lofty canyon]

Which would require the dungeon load order to be explicitly defined, and dunno how it'd handle mods that add their own functions on top

[echo dune]

multi dungeon is something i wanna add to LLL anyway which would likely involve some sort of per level stack or queue yeah

i was actually already thinking about a per mod report you could access funny enough

I'm pretty picky when it comes to what debug logs i send out in public builds of LLL but also I kind of didn't like that you guys don't have too much information about what exactly i'm doing to your content

so instead of debugging those changes directly i wanted to store them in a kinda modreport/dungeonreport etc. and then log those

so for example if i stop logging them on my end for a public release you could run the function yourself

eg. content i restored, config options that had changes

[topaz orchid]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[untold cairn]

Yes?

[feral flame]

You're probably better off asking the questions in the scopophobia thread because idk if your questions can be answered here

[gentle forum]

@lofty canyon Hi, just reporting some z errors I noticed on this tile

[jovial badge]

Just came to report the same pretty much, bunch of white seams abound

https://i.imgur.com/EabrIEZ.png

[dark ether]

Were the custom door sounds removed? The last few times I've played with it in my modpack I only hear the vanilla door sfx

[lofty canyon]

Like the SCP doors just make the base game door sound? Not intended, what kind of mods do you have?

[dark ether]

Too many to list tbh :’)

The only audio mod that I can think of that would conflict is LethalResonance

But idk if that’s an actual incompatibility or not

[lofty canyon]

Maybe if lethal resonance does some weird stuff with door sfx it might break, I'd recommend testing without it and seeing if stuff is still broke

[dark ether]

I’ll test that tomorrow and check

[frail hamlet]

woah what? I only replace default door sounds

[lofty canyon]

Just spitballing, haven't checked if lethal resonance is the actual cause or not

[frail hamlet]

dont mind me, just sayinnngggg

if there ends up being an issue lmk when possible

[lofty canyon]

Was just thinking if you replaced the door sfx in an unusual way maybe some name clash or something would happen

Since afaik doors have been working fine for most people

[static talon]

wha

i am deeply confused

[untold cairn]

About what?

[static talon]

loading Secret Labs@9999 at default rarity 100

welp lets make default rarity 9999

[untold cairn]

???

[lofty canyon]

It's a logging error, it's working it just displays the wrong name

[static talon]

a oke

[final ruin]

does seem to be

I disabled resonance, and didnt have the issue

re enabled it, happened again

[lofty canyon]

seems like it is lethal resonance causing something to go wrong, how are you replacing the sounds?

[final ruin]

also am I like missing an image or smth

[lofty canyon]

nah that's just showing you can't interact with it while the door is opening

[final ruin]

phew

in another game I played it had a placeholder image which was very similar to that

[frail hamlet]

Custom sounds and LCSoundTools, just like almost every other audio mod out there

How odd

[dark ether]

Yea it’s just the image used in all SCP games when the door is opening

[lofty canyon]

stuff is happening

[sly wagon]

what is that ?

[warm flax]

A change I'd recommend is making light containment a early moon type interior, and making a new heavy contain zone themed interior

[sharp zinc]

I feel like the clockwork shouldn't be free though.

It's REALLY good

[thorn atlas]

Making them separate interiors for separate moons something I highly disagree with, personally

[sharp zinc]

That too

[thorn atlas]

Not really a good way to make Clockwork more fair other than maybe locking it behind a Keycard, but honestly that just feels unfun

[frail hamlet]

A new Dependency for LR is currently being worked on and this should elimate this issue once finished

[lofty canyon]

ah was just gonna rename the door sfx in my mod to see if that fixed things

[frail hamlet]

this would also be a welcome change tho

[thorn atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[frail hamlet]

and would be necessary for any other sound packs

besides ours I mean\

[thorn atlas]

Will this result in Lethal Resonance being more compatible? Cuz part of the reason I haven't tried it is cuz I've heard it breaks with a surprising amount of other mods

Grape vine, of course, no idea how true that is

Haven't tried it as I said

[lofty canyon]

I'm assuming the problem is an sfx name collision, so I'm just prefixing all my audio names with scp

[frail hamlet]

this is the first conflict I have ever been made aware of actually

like, ever

unless you mean a conflict with another sound replacement mod in which case obviously

[thorn atlas]

I dunno tbh

[thorn atlas]

I have no references or citations so I could be very wrong

[frail hamlet]

oh, well if you ever find one. Let me know! Compat is super important to me cause I love playing with modpacks

[thorn atlas]

Totally valid ^^

Glad to hear it

[silver vale]

What the hell are they doing

[static talon]

anyone has some debugging mods so i can spawn modded scraps to test if my recipes are working

[celest trail]

lethaldev or dancetools

[static talon]

thx

[abstract fossil]

Looks like my dungeons are all registering at default for some reason

Here's my config

[final ruin]

they arent

it just says they are in the log

its fine

[abstract fossil]

oh awesome

thanks

[hard gale]

if we ever do get a meltdown theme for scp this would go hard

and the apperatus

[lofty canyon]

Woo 2 mil

[echo dune]

https://tenor.com/view/autism-creature-yippee-creature-yippee-autism-woo-gif-10988973615622974862

[cerulean adder]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-lethal-party-dance-modded-mods-gif-12029361067718843715

[lofty canyon]

Might release heavy containment as it's rn, it's all functional except for the keycard conversion and gate so it'd just add some nice variety and dunno how long it'll take to make the gate stuff

[hard gale]

Is that a new interior?

[lofty canyon]

It's a new half of the existing interior

[lofty canyon]

See here

[hard gale]

So like a huge update basically

So a new interior but it’s still a part of the scp one. Yea like u said, half of. A interior

[lofty canyon]

Pretty big yeah, also updates to the latest LLL on top of the new dungeon portion

[hard gale]

Bet

So it’s gonna look like that kinda

[lofty canyon]

Oh also fixed the dungeon never looping back on itself

[lofty canyon]

Using the SCPCB style but yeah that area

[hard gale]

Ok that’s a nice update fs

So more like this

[lofty canyon]

Yeah

Can spot that tile in the image if you zoom in

[hard gale]

So this is what you have been cooking for so long

[lofty canyon]

Partially, also just been exhausted from irl stuff so haven't had the motivation to work on things

[echo dune]

Did the probuilder thing happen yet or nah? Just curious

[lofty canyon]

Tried but the lighting problem persisted into the probuilder rooms

So guessing something wrong with the material

[echo dune]

Mhm?

[lofty canyon]

Plus remaking in pro builder is a lot slower than I'd like, maybe just being used to hammer-like editors but it's way faster to just make the rooms in CBRE than in probuilder

[echo dune]

Forsure

Out of curiosity did you try ProBuilderizing them? Usually the results are pretty worthless buy

[lofty canyon]

How do you do that?

[echo dune]

its one of the options in the probuilder window

it tries to turn the instance of the mesh into a probuilder mesh

automatically

has very inconsistent results but could maybe(?) work in this context with how primitive some of your rooms are

[lofty canyon]

Yeah the rooms are all brush based from CBRE anyway so it'd probably work better in this context

[echo dune]

yeah

actually i can prob quick try i should have a project with your stuff in somewhere

[lofty canyon]

I've got the (slightly outdated) Unity package on the GitHub

[echo dune]

oh dude

this actually isnt that bad

kinda hard to show in isolated screenshots but

[lofty canyon]

Those metal beam bits are kinda funky but looks pretty reasonable otherwise

[abstract fossil]

Out of curiosity, what's the probuilder thing?

[echo dune]

didnt take long to add this door for example

[echo dune]

probuilder is unity's offical level design tool

[abstract fossil]

Ah gotcha

[cerulean adder]

Badham I saw you saying earlier that you'd have "fixed the dungeon never looping back on itself" is this what's happening on the current version of the SCP Dungeon, like it never loops back?

That would kinda explain why my friends feel like SCP Dungeon is almost always a death trap and they always gets lost never finding the exits

[lofty canyon]

Yeah I forgot to turn on the setting that allows different branches to connect to each other, it doesn't guarantee no dead ends but does improve the odds

[cerulean adder]

Ahh! Can't wait to discover the new rooms and the fixed dungeon :))
Thank you for the good work and take your time, looking forward to seeing this

[lofty canyon]

Also including a new custom LC room as a fairly basic 4 way tile

[quasi scaffold]

So this mod is not working with newest LLL?

[final ruin]

works fine for me

[quasi scaffold]

Thanks!

[silver vale]

I wonder if there will be any room with an apparatus or something?

[lofty canyon]

I'd like to add an apparatus room at some point, I just don't really have modelling skills to make an apparatus holder

anyway here's 3.0.0

3.0.0

Thanks for 2 Million downloads!

• Upgraded to latest LLL
• Added Heavy Containment (keycard gate TODO)
• 1 Extra room in Light Containment
• Fixed rooms not being able to loop back on themselves
• Changed item group patching to better support different languages
• Tweaked default config (slightly higher default rarity, made Secret Labs highly likely to be SCP Foundation)
• Option to disable default SCP 914 config
• Upped minimum dungeon size scale from 1.0 to 1.5

[final ruin]

wowie

[lofty canyon]

SCP: Facility (custom dungeon mod) [3.0.0]

[final ruin]

WAHOO

I will now make a new video

I saw your comment on this one

[lofty canyon]

(also forgot to document I made the default dungeon size slightly lower, but compensated with higher scale so dungeon generation doesn't completely break on cheap moons if you add it to them)

(hopefully)

oh yeah @midnight knoll config to disable default 914 config now

[celest trail]

why wouuld 914 be disabled ?

[fiery radish]

Hey knibbs, what LLL features do you use from 1.1.6? I'm having to use 1.1.4 due to massive conflicts with LQ

[final ruin]

914 doesn’t get disabled

[lofty canyon]

Clem wanted a way to disable the default 914 recipes so he could do his own recipes without the default messing with the odds

[final ruin]

yeah

[lofty canyon]

don't think it uses anything specific to 1.1.6, should be compatible with all post-1.1.0 LLL versions

I just grabbed the latest dependency string

[fiery radish]

Ah righto, yeah it's a bit of a mess right now with LLL and LQ 😅

[lofty canyon]

I've also updated the unity package on the git for the people who care about that

[celest trail]

👀 oh they wanna cook

[celest trail]

sry shouldve worded it better 😂

[midnight knoll]

Lethal Quantities?

[fiery radish]

Yep

[hard gale]

epic

could someone send screenshots if they happen to run over the new areas?

[midnight knoll]

Whats happening with it? Was about to start updating to 1.1.6 but I use LQ aswell

[static talon]

btw, it seems that paintings can't be scanned unless picked up

[midnight knoll]

^ thats a vanilla bug

[static talon]

oo oke

i didn't know that

[fiery radish]

I had a bunch of weird issues, the biggest of which was the terminal breaking for moons and route commands

I'm gonna do more tests today to make sure I wasn't dilusional that night

[fiery radish]

@midnight knoll I think it's fine as long as you don't touch the LLL config at all

Running some tests, going to LE and vanilla moons, all gucci

I think before I wanted LLL to show Price

And that caused the problems

[midnight knoll]

I believe the terminal thing is between LLL and LE

Both LE and LECore have different reactions to LLL also

ie they break in diff ways but I don't remember specificly what

[fiery radish]

It may have been and I thought it was LQ during testing that night, it doesn't help I removed LQ and started playing around with LLL configs and that started to mess the game up 😅

At least for my pack that doesn't include anything crazy or too far from vanilla it's all good, which is all I wish for being my group's pack handler

[fresh island]

i havent cheked up on this mod in a while, i wanted to ask if pathfinding is still an issue?

i tried the mod yesterday, no problems. but i diddnt spend a lit of time with it, so i thought it best to just ask.

[lofty canyon]

Should be all fine, haven't had any reports about issues

[fresh island]

awsome

i couldnt force anything to act weird, but i wanted confirmation from a dev.

theres actually a few mods that use lethallevel loader that seem to have good enough pathing as is, where i wasnt able to force it. i doubt it had to do with levelloader, but i find it funny almost every interior using it is (for the most part) figured out pathfinding

again, not enough testing done to conclude thats the case, just something i recognised while playtesting and found funny

[lofty canyon]

It's more that before LLL people were still figuring out what everything actually does and how to not make everything explode

[tall jetty]

oop

[lofty canyon]

Yeah gotta figure out those weird seams, probably just need to get around to remaking all the rooms properly

[tall jetty]

if it helps its the walkway room

and i can kinda see white dots everywhere i go so i guess you're right

[lofty canyon]

A lot of the earlier tiles are basically direct asset rips, I've been tweaking the newer tiles more to prevent oddities

[fresh island]

fair enough

[tall jetty]

took a quick look at the new tiles, holy hell that is INSANE, im like baffled

keep up the good work

[strong frigate]

haven’t used this mod in a long long time but last I used it loot was very scarce

has that been fixed?

[boreal charm]

yes

[fiery radish]

I had a lamp spawn in this :(

[cerulean adder]

haha love the finger pointing to it

[fiery radish]

I must report all my findings with a finger point

[cerulean adder]

What the fuck is happening in these screenshots

Did it.. like.. rain mob corpses lol

[fiery radish]

We took them with us 😃

SellBodies mod, very fun to have!

[cerulean adder]

Uh, okay that's interesting actually thanks

[static talon]

you murderers

[hard gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ9CkQk7fm0&list=RDAQ9CkQk7fm0&start_radio=1

im gonna recreate this

in lethal company

does anyone know if I can spawn dead bodies

[dark ether]

Why do I feel like I've heard this song before

[hard gale]

idk

[dark ether]

I figured it out

I used to loop this for hours when I was like 12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC8A-ZLe5rk

[hard gale]

yo

I made a

thing for that

a facility metldown version

@dark ether

[dark ether]

Oml there's too many good meltdown songs 😭

[hard gale]

this is the best one

dont use others

[dark ether]

I originally had an Ultrakill one, then I switched it over to one from Doors (the roblox game) just because it unironically is such a tense song

[hard gale]

can u send me the doors one

I will make it so it can be a 50/50 chance between both of the songs

[dark ether]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Mari0no1/DoorsEscapeMusic/

[hard gale]

thx

[dark ether]

Only thing with this one is that it's both facility meltdown and ship early leave

[hard gale]

oh crap this is good

[hard gale]

wdym

[dark ether]

like if dead players successfully vote to make the ship leave early, it'll play for that as well

[hard gale]

oh ok thx

[hard gale]

but i think mine is b etter still

[hard gale]

can soemone plz send me new images and gameplay of heavy cintainment

contain,ent

tried playing on the own

got scared

[final ruin]

ill make a video rn

will probably take a bit tho

like maybe 30 minutes

[hard gale]

bet

i couldnt find the new stuff

and i heard rolling giant

[final ruin]

I actually found it immediately my first try

[hard gale]

its late and im home alone, so hell nahh i alt f4

[final ruin]

but then I got cornered by a coil head and scp 096

oopsies!

[hard gale]

lol

[hard gale]

prob gonana do it with secret labs again? Just had an update

[final ruin]

yea

I was gonna make it right when the update came out for this mod

but I felt sleepy

[final ruin]

damn I actually got a good video on my first try

[final ruin]

@hard gale I finished the video but its gonna be a bit

its 2gb

(not because its long but because I made the resolution higher)

[red yarrow]

You could probably make it either the Nuclear Warhead Silo, or the Micro H.I.D. Room

Though the former would make the most sense

[tall jetty]

nuclear silo with meltdown would be soooooooooo goood

[hard gale]

bet

[hard gale]

nice video showcased a lot!

[hard gale]

honestly just use the same model as the facility one

[devout yarrow]

i feel like if yall want an apparatus room i think the silo area would work nice, but would be weird to put an apparatus there though..

[devout yarrow]

reminds me of a game called incursion

dont think it exists anymore

aliens vs people + pretty much the spy from tf2 but as an alien

but he can legit just shoot you to death 💀

im pretty sure either that uses the song it it used the background "bmm mmm mm"

[slow flame]

⚠️ BUG, PLS FIX IT⚠️

[obtuse drum]

that happens in the vanilla game too

[slow flame]

oh

[balmy carbon]

@lofty canyon so i was reading the warning about setting the dungeon size too high and can cause things like my pc crashing or worse, what can be worse than the pc crashing part?

[wind cargo]

death

[cerulean adder]

hemorrhoids also

[opal spear]

murder too, believe it or not

[lofty canyon]

pc corruption is probably worst case scenario if it tries to generate something too big and doesn't crash gracefully

[static talon]

corruption or overheating 👍

[red yarrow]

Wait, is THAT what happened to me???

Bc my pc bluescreened so hard while playing lethal i had to reset it

And i never even changed the dungeon size

[lofty canyon]

Maybe, lethal company has basically no safeguards against the dungeon generation going haywire

Or just everything between the lever being pulled and landing

I've tuned down the dungeon size over time so it's probably much less likely to happen without tinkered values

[static talon]

depends on what was the error code

[rugged quest]

Has this been updated?

I played it maybe a month and a half ago and it was a bit bleak

[final ruin]

yea

heavy containment section now

[rugged quest]

Good….goooood

Is scrap still nearly impossible to find?

[final ruin]

uh

kinda

[rugged quest]

Does it just not generate?

[final ruin]

the scrap?

it definitely generates

[rugged quest]

How much of the correct amount?

[final ruin]

oh I have no idea about that

Everything related to scrap seems fine though

[rugged quest]

Is the scrap value between the minimum and maximum?

[final ruin]

Look maybe I shouldn't have tried helping, because I don't know the specifics, but scrap seems to have correct values