SCP: Facility (custom dungeon mod) [4.3.4]

[lofty canyon]

that explains the moon weirdness

[echo dune]

it might change again

[lofty canyon]

and I was doing bit twiddling in a way that broke it when the moon type values changed

[somber nova]

same

[lofty canyon]

lethal lib had an update that changed the moon type flags so it's probably acting up because of that, should be fine in the soon-to-upload hotfix

[lofty canyon]

1.3.1

• Fix door desync problem
• Fix scrap possibly spawning OOB
• Fix moon config not working with latest LethalLib versions
• Slightly decreased average size of generated dungeon (NOTE: Balanced around Titan; free moons may be relatively small)

(will take a hot min for thunderstore to update)

[lofty canyon]

SCP: Facility (custom dungeon mod) [1.3.1]

[scarlet phoenix]

@cedar iron

[errant sandal]

A great MOD that has provided a lot of fun for me and my friends. However, the difficulty is a bit too high. (The escape attempts of the 6 crew members often end in failure.
Our failure rate in the 1.3.1 version of the dungeon is 90%..)
The space is very small, lacks distinctive features, leading to frequent getting lost. Without carrying spray paint, it's challenging to escape from this map.
Returning after going too deep is extremely difficult; the narrow space makes it hard to evade the turret and monster pursuits, with the turret serving as the boss of this map.
The back door cannot be used to enter the SCP dungeon; only the front entrance is accessible. Currently, I haven't found any exits other than the main gate within the dungeon.
The generation of scraps seems somewhat peculiar; there is no scraps in the depths of some large rooms, and scraps often generates in hallways (near ventilation ducts).
👍 👍 Thank you for the developers' intelligence and creativity; this new dungeon has brought valuable gaming experiences. I suggest increasing the size of halls and corridors and adding features like pillars in the halls to allow players to dodge attacks. Additionally, it would be beneficial to make the generation of debris more reasonable, as frequently, the rooms in the depths are devoid of any objects.At the entrances or junctions of some rooms, it would be helpful to add illuminated signs.

[fresh island]

the models are edited versions of tiles from SCP: containment breach. as such, alot of them are straight halls. could it be nice to have a lower weight of those? yeah, but its a matter of having the dungeon tiles from another game be applicable to this one, in the end.

i kinda like how long hallways can get. it makes thumpers massive threats that require a shovel at all times for, which isnt entirely unexpected of the paid moons.

[rustic apex]

is this map still bugged?
lack of loot spawned, fire exit being 'blocked'

[brave stag]

Oh I thought that was me only

Yeah I get fire exit blocked

Sometimes

[lofty canyon]

they should all be sorted out in the latest updates

[rustic apex]

'fraid to say they're not

[lofty canyon]

can you share a log file?

[rustic apex]

later, yes
not closed the game yet

[lofty canyon]

is this on a specific moon or anything?

[rustic apex]

titan

[lofty canyon]

any other mods?

[rustic apex]

a good couple, but nothing affecting layout

[lofty canyon]

can you pass the list just to be sure?

[rustic apex]

BepInEx-BepInExPack-5.4.2100
notnotnotswipez-MoreCompany-1.7.2
Evaisa-HookGenPatcher-0.0.5
Evaisa-LethalLib-0.9.0
malco-Lategame_Upgrades-2.8.3
Sligili-More_Emotes-1.2.2
Bibendi-AEIOUCompany-1.3.4
2018-LC_API-3.1.0
amnsoft-EmployeeAssignments-1.0.8
Stoneman-LethalProgression-1.3.2
Rune580-LethalCompany_InputUtils-0.4.4
Greyull-LethalPing-1.2.4
Thorlar-HealthStation-1.0.1
tinyhoot-ShipLobby-1.0.2
AlexCodesGames-AdditionalSuits-1.1.3
RugbugRedfern-Skinwalkers-2.0.1
EliteMasterEric-Coroner-1.5.0
Kittenji-Dont_Touch_Me-1.1.0
AgsConnections-Ag_Christmas_Suit-2.0.0
Evaisa-LethalThings-0.8.8
x753-More_Suits-1.4.1
SquaredBirch2-ProjectMoonSuits-1.3.1
no00ob-LCSoundTool-1.4.0
Clementinise-CustomSounds-2.2.0
AinaVT-YippeeScrap-1.0.0
HolographicWings-LethalExpansion-1.3.6
Ceelery-Kast-1.0.2
Badham_Mods-SCPFoundationDungeon-1.3.1
x753-Mimics-2.3.0
darmuh-ghostCodes-1.1.0
Deli-Shovel_Bonk_Yippee-2.0.0
quackandcheese-MirrorDecor-1.2.0

[lofty canyon]

LC API (and subsequently anything that depends on it) is known to be finnicky with custom dungeon/moon stuff in LethalLib

[rustic apex]

no fix for that?

[lofty canyon]

not yet at least, Ooblterra has the same problem

oh and also lethal expansion

it's almost guaranteed to be those causing the problem

[rustic apex]

lethal expansion adds custom moons

[lofty canyon]

yeah it also doesn't play nice with ooblterra and likely this

[rustic apex]

should probably put that it's incompatible somewhere

[lofty canyon]

I think they're trying to work out the compat issues to make oobl more flexible which should carry over to here when that's sorted out

could possibly be something else in there causing issues too but it'd need binary testing to figure out

[boreal charm]

i figure it is, but just to make sure, is this compatible with other dungen mods like https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1189848033110798346 ?

[lofty canyon]

If it's using lethal lib it's very likely compatible

[boreal charm]

alright, thanks

[lofty canyon]

Untested though, best confirm before throwing it into everything

[boreal charm]

in that thread there are people using it and scp together so it should be fine, just wanted to make sure there wasnt anything between these mods that would make it guaranteed incompatible since they both add a new dungen

[lofty canyon]

Generally speaking as long as the library mod used matches between them they should be compatible

Though apparently some people have reported oobl might have issues? I'd need to check though in theory they should be okay together

[fresh island]

do we know if this plays well with lethalextention or not (another mod that adds dungeons using lethallib)?

i can't seem to find any errors myself, mostly just asking to make sure.

[lofty canyon]

Seems like it's fine, I think a few people have already tested with them together with nothing bad

[fresh island]

awsome!

i assumed so because i couldnt get any problems with it but needed to make sure

[lofty canyon]

Only known possible issues are lcapi and LExpansion right now

[fresh island]

expantion i think it the bad one

but yea

[lofty canyon]

Yeah I do wish the names were a bit more distinct lol

[fresh island]

i got rid of LCAPI this morning (diddnt realize something i downloaded required it) and it works prtty solid

[fresh island]

for real. new dungeon mod? nah, its lethal extention.

feels weird and makes it hard to differentiate mods.

[lofty canyon]

But yeah there's a split between Lethal expansion and lethal lib right now in terms of compatibility (and lcapi has always been a bit funky), oobl is trying to work it out

[fresh island]

yeaaahhh

[sour trellis]

So, Lethal Expansion is what causes issues with some custom moons? It's a pretty useful mod so I would like to leave it enabled, but is it confirmed that it is the issue?

[lofty canyon]

Custom dungeons of which I'm pretty sure all are made in lethal lib and lethal expansion don't seem to work well together right now, can try but no guarantees things will work

[sour trellis]

I was able to play several rounds on Dine with the SCP facility spawning in, I think the only issue anyone mentioned was the fire exit not working (which I think was intentional) and turrets shooting through doors sometimes.

I'll leave Lethal Expansion on for next time we play and let you know if any bugs occur. What specific issues are people saying it causes?

[lofty canyon]

Fire exit not working is not intentional and seems to be an issue specific to lethal expansion inclusion, turrets shooting through doors is a known issue for all custom dungeons right now which isn't related to LE

[fresh island]

small question about spawn chances for these dungeons: i know they are weighted against other dungeons based on the moons, but what is like.. the average number for something like that? it seems to go from 0-300, so is 100 just the baseline for dungeon values?

like having it ~100 is like having it show up every 2-3 days or something?

[lofty canyon]

In vanilla almost every moon has the primary dungeon set to weight 300 with the other set to weight 4 or something like that

For dine and rend the mansion is the primary dungeon, every other one is the facility

[fresh island]

weiirrd

[lofty canyon]

Except March with guaranteed facility

[fresh island]

ok that makes a lot of sense

so a 100 is basically just making it uncommon

a 300 is practically a 1/2 chance

[lofty canyon]

Pretty much

[boreal charm]

yeah you can get the mansion on unpaid moons in vanilla, it's just exceedingly uncommon. i've only seen it once in 80 hours of gameplay

[fresh island]

that makes a lot of sense

[fresh island]

ive seen it alot, ~135 hours in.

its def not coomon tho lmaoo

ive gotten it most of offence (i think its weight is the highest of unpaids tho so that makes sense)

[lofty canyon]

Seen it once in around 30 hours of play

[fresh island]

yea lol

[sour trellis]

I saw it happen once on Assurance, I think it's 1% or less for it to happen.

[cedar raft]

yes its a low chance

[fresh island]

Its not percentage based, its a weight system.

But yes its really low chance.

[lyric pasture]

i have 160 hrs and saw it once on assurance its gotta be rlly low

or im super unlucky

[gloomy turret]

does this conflict with the backrooms mod / custom moons?

[lofty canyon]

Backrooms might be okay (I'd highly recommend testing first though, I'm not sure), custom moons using lethal expansion (which I'm pretty sure is all but oobl right now) are incompatible and will break

[gloomy turret]

ah dang

what causes the breaking?

[lofty canyon]

Not sure right now, just a general incompatibility between Lethal lib and lethal expansion, works being done to resolve it but for now it's a one or the other deal

[gloomy turret]

fair enough, gl on patching it :D

[analog crown]

Ive gotten it like 10 times with like 11 hours

It would be nice if there was a way to get this dungeon like 1/3 chance on a specific moon or smth

Because I've never gotten it at all

[lofty canyon]

You aren't getting the SCP dungeon at all? What's your config set up like?

[feral flame]

Fire exits just arent functioning for me

[lofty canyon]

modlist?

[feral flame]

things that i think could be causing the issue are
lethalexpansion
lategame upgrades
possibly input utils

[flint scroll]

@feral flame if you don't touch the config i'm pretty sure it's only on titan by default (unless it's changed since then)

[feral flame]

i mean the fire exits on scp

they are always blocked

or dont function at all despite the fire exit being visible but also not functional inside

[lofty canyon]

can you share a mod profile?

[boreal charm]

just to clear the air, i finished playing a session with both this mod and lethalextension installed and saw both dungeons during the session, worked fine. no bugs 👍

[lofty canyon]

yeah I've just gotten home to do some testing with lethal extension and it doesn't seem to be causing any problems, haven't done a multiplayer test yet though

[boreal charm]

also the scrap issue seems to be greatly alleviated by the new hotfix, we barely found any scrap last time but found tons just now

[feral flame]

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[feral flame]

for me it requires you to go really deep into the facility to find a good amount of loot

but id rather that than none at all

[boreal charm]

could just be unlucky, me and my friends found that the loot was pretty evenly distributed, definitely moreso compared to the earlier versions

[feral flame]

there is a notable increase in scrap spawns yeah but from my experience it requires alot of exploring

[flint scroll]

For the fire exit issue I think WtO had a similar issue that was fixed

But idk if it's the same issue

[lofty canyon]

weird, this pack is working fine for me

scrap spawning being low and doors not working sound like it's possibly an older version? though the pack you sent me is the latest

[feral flame]

its not the scrap thats having issues

its the fire exit

[lofty canyon]

yeah I went through the fire exit, didn't have any problems

do you have a log file I can check?

[errant sandal]

I am testing, and the issue with the back door might be due to the LethalLib not being updated.
Sorry, I replied to the wrong person.

Oh! It seems to be fixed now. I encountered this issue on March before. After updating LethalLib, SCP no longer spawns on March.

[feral flame]

ill try it out again with mates when we next play a session and ill let you know from there

[feral flame]

i looked in the logs and couldnt see anything unusual other than lethal company's usual spam

[flint scroll]

a mod i can recommend to enhance your experience is the dontblink mod. you have to mess with the config but it let's you get almost to a scp cb state

with this mod and like the scp 173 mod

[analog crown]

What mods break it?

Because it's probably due to another mod

And I don't even know about a config menu

[fresh island]

Lc_api and lethal expantion are known to break it

As they do alot of mods using lethal lib

[analog crown]

how much of a chance is there for this to spawn?

[analog crown]

would it be too much to ask for the dungeon to have a 100% chance to spawn in this mod planet? maybe yall could work together or smth

[fresh island]

it doesnt work with this mod.

it uses lethal expantion, which is super buggy with alot of lethallib mods.

[analog crown]

Huh

[lofty canyon]

default chance/config (assuming no other dungeon mods) is ~33%, only spawning on Titan

[analog crown]

Oh thanks...

[lofty canyon]

lethal expansion (note: not lethal extension) may raise issues, use at your own risk (and LCAPI might be funky as well)

[analog crown]

Alright

[lofty canyon]

that said I've been testing a bit with lethal expansion and it doesn't seem to be causing any problems for me

[analog crown]

If possible

[analog crown]

Could you consider this? I believe it would be a really cool adition

[fresh island]

it litterally wouldnt work, that mod uses an API known to conflict with this mod.

[fresh island]

oh?

[analog crown]

Your not the modding police

[fresh island]

maybe im wrong lol

[fresh island]

who said i was dude?

[lofty canyon]

a lot of the reports of things breaking have come from people where the common link is usually lethal expansion or lcapi

[fresh island]

^

[lofty canyon]

it's very hard to pin these things down

[analog crown]

Unfortunate well I wish you the best of luck but

Is there any custom rooms for scps as of now?

[lofty canyon]

what do you mean? the whole thing is custom rooms

[fresh island]

173's room is in the game, as well as multiple item rooms and the coffin.

[analog crown]

Ok

[lofty canyon]

oh yeah there's a handful of SCP containment rooms

[analog crown]

Just extra base set of rooms not hallways n such

[lofty canyon]

most of the containment rooms are cap rooms that only spawn at the end of a branching path

[analog crown]

But yes ty I will def use this

[lofty canyon]

also tinkering with modded LE moon support, will see how it works out

[analog crown]

But I feel like it would be cool if there is a 8 percent chance to spawn on march

Because titan is expensive and me n my friends can't get there we too dumb

[lofty canyon]

also adding a more flexible config in general

[analog crown]

Kk ty

Gtg hope it works

[fresh island]

i mean, you can set that up in the config, but the mod is build to be used for titan (the paid moons also work pretty well)

[lofty canyon]

aiming to have the next update let you just pick each moon individually, which includes custom moons

so you can do something like RendLevel,TitanLevel,OoblterraLevel and it'll spawn on those 3 moons

[fresh island]

Nice!

[echo dune]

@lofty canyon in the future w/ LL you'll be able to grab moons based of categories and mods too

[lofty canyon]

that'll be nice, though CSV for user customization is nicer I think

[echo dune]

ya forsure

[charred depot]

why tf do there gotta be so many mods doing the same shit or having such similar names all causing issues with eachother LOL

[shadow wigeon]

Cause everyone wants their own cool API library to depend on which does the same thing

[cedar raft]

its very common early on in modding scenes

[charred depot]

Fair enough

[feral flame]

this issue has been happening for a hot while for me

[lofty canyon]

looks like it's failing to swap the doorteleporter object in, is there a log I can check?

[feral flame]

this was recorded a while ago and i forgot so im launching the game now to see if the log says anything

[lofty canyon]

how long is a while ago? there's been a few changes over the past few days

[feral flame]

like 4 hours ago

[lofty canyon]

oh, I assume it's the latest then

[feral flame]

nevermind 14 hours ago

[lofty canyon]

hmm, still within the latest release time

if you get it to happen again, send the log (door hotswapping occurs during dungeon generation on moon land)

[leaden pasture]

is it at all possible to like, replace coilhead with this reskin https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/raydenoir/SCP173CoilheadSFX/ but only on this dungeon?

[feral flame]

just a bunch of spam like this

not even sure what im looking for

[lofty canyon]

you can just send the whole log I can dig through it

[feral flame]

How should i send it?

[lofty canyon]

should be able to just send it, either by dm or posting here

[feral flame]

ffs

game crashed

[lofty canyon]

weird, it's saying the entrance teleport B (the fire exit) is being found and replaced

[old magnet]

BepInEx/LogOutput.Log

in case you aren't aware the last log is always dumped there

[feral flame]

gotcha

[lofty canyon]

actually this looks like it failed to replace it

[feral flame]

thing is

it worked a couple times

broke a couple times

[lofty canyon]

my best guess is it's a race condition where something is finishing before another so it isn't able to replace it, the most fun bug to deal with

[lofty canyon]

have you tested Ooblterra? their method of teleporter door patching is a bit different, if that works flawlessly for you I might tweak things to work more like that

[feral flame]

havent heard of ooblterra

[echo dune]

i looked into what i'd need to do for injecting dynamic doors and got scared

[feral flame]

it worked this time but every time it has worked its only been in this room

second attempt the door failed

[sick notch]

okay just to be clear this dungoen isnt a moon but a chance to spawn in titan?

[feral flame]

from what i can see going to titan day 1 it functions fine but the moment you leave and go back it stops functioning

[lofty canyon]

ah, maybe it's an issue on second time only or something weird like that

[lofty canyon]

yep

[lofty canyon]

yep, can confirm it's a problem with revisiting

[golden venture]

can you add support for this mod https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Zingar/SecretLabs/

its a free planet

and i only want it on paid planets

[lofty canyon]

working on a config change for an update which semi-works with this

[golden venture]

oo

[lofty canyon]

though it has multiple fire exits which breaks a bit so 2/3 fire exits won't work

[hallow mirage]

played this mod recently and got the scp facility, i was able to walk perfectly fine on the floor but my friends just fell right through the floor

[golden venture]

this mod rlly needs an outside its just way too good and it could be a harder planet than titan and cost more

i mean the secret labs is exactly what you were planning the main enterance is the elevator

it would be perfect lol

fire exit is here where you see the light

there is another fire exit upstairs too

[cosmic wyvern]

did you change your config for it to be on every planet?

configs aren't live updated on joining servers, so if you set it to every planet each person getting the mod has to modify their config as of right now, sounds like in this recent patch tho the plan is to maybe make it live update on server enterance in the future. but for now everyone has to set it to all in the config

[hallow mirage]

yeah on all moons

[hallow mirage]

also good to know

[hallow mirage]

Also just did some looking around, i have a feeling it’s because of this

the moon i was on wasn’t even a custom moon so idk why that happens but oh well

[echo dune]

yeah no that change is stupid

its probably that

[lofty canyon]

well that's a bit annoying

[hallow mirage]

Yeah, just a bit

Especially when it was the first time i saw it spawn and then i see my friends fall through the floor

Hilarious when it happened but man that sucks

[hollow atlas]

the facility doesnt seem to spawn in for me even after i enable it for all moons and set guaranteed spawn to true

most likely due to mod conflict ig

[static yarrow]

Does it not spawn on any moon?

[hollow atlas]

none, i set it to all but i tried titan anyway just to be sure and i just get the default facility or mansion

[static yarrow]

I've definitely gotten it on titan so must be an incompatibility

What number do you have in the config for spawn chance

[hollow atlas]

my guess would be either lethal expansion or brutal company

[static yarrow]

300?

[static yarrow]

Is that the beta of brutal company plus? Or the old version

[hollow atlas]

plus

not the old one

[static yarrow]

New from the discord?

[hollow atlas]

uhh

wdym

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Nips/Brutal_Company_Plus/

i used this one

[static yarrow]

Yeah hasn't been updated in few weeks

There's a new beta on the discord

In the mod thread

Old version is bit buggy

But I think it's more likely to be lethal expansion

[hollow atlas]

can you link me the thread real quick

also yeah ill try disabling lethal expansion to see if it works

kind of a shame though

[static yarrow]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1181871343730425887

Lethal expansion has settings that mess with interiors I think

[hollow atlas]

yeah thats the same one i linked

[static yarrow]

It's the same mod

But they have a development build for the next update

But I don't think that's causing your problem

Unless it modifies interiors

[hollow atlas]

just fucks with the spawn rates/chances afaik

so yeah

[static yarrow]

Lethal expansion messes with map sizes

[hollow atlas]

ill just disable lethal expansion and see if it works

[hollow atlas]

ah yeah thats probably it then

[static yarrow]

If lethal expansion is the issue and disabling it works, but you want to keep mods that use it, then try installing https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/jockie/LethalExpansionCore/ at the same time, it disables the extra features in lethal expansion and maybe wont cause your problem anymore

[hollow atlas]

ohhhhhhhh

yeah i never knew this existed

ill try in a sec thanks alot

[static yarrow]

You can have both installed at the same time

Might not be enough and maybe its not even this causing your problem but hopefully it works

Try without lethal expansion first though

[unkempt stratus]

how to add this

to my game

[hollow atlas]

@static yarrow

i figured out the issue

it was teh dumbest shit ever

wasnt a mod compatibility problem

my lethallib was just outdated

💀

ty for trying to help tho!

[static yarrow]

np glad you fixed it

[lofty canyon]

@feral flame alright I can confirm that the incompatability is within Lethal Expansion (tested with 1.3.6)

with expansion the fire exit fails to spawn on the second visit to a moon with the SCP dungeon, after removing the mod it works

[tribal leaf]

would be cool with an scp moon with all this stuff in it

[analog crown]

the thing is it takes so much work to make a dungeon and a custom moon, people usually make one or the other, what we need is for people to work together to give these new moons custom dungeons.

[tall jetty]

even using just the core doesnt help?

[magic plinth]

Jesters can never go through doors for me and just always get stuck

Also is this mod compatible with lethal extension?

[fresh island]

What we need if for a central lib or API people naturally gravitate towards, or at least something that doesn bug the game put as soon as you add any other mods

[boreal charm]

that's lethallib

[crisp lantern]

There IS a SCP-based Moon but I don't think this mod works on custom moons

Edit: I backread and well, ig they are planning on doing something

[golden venture]

have you used this does it work and is there any big issues ?

[marsh meadow]

It's interesting there isn't a central library mod to allow for adding extra moons/dungeons into the mix. I'm sure it's much more complex on the back-end, but it would be interesting to see some sort of "map manager" which handles all that, then allows for setting up config in the terminal on a per-planet/per-dungeon basis

[static yarrow]

I've used the mod in the past and lethal expansion mods functioned fine with it, but I don't currently use any expansion mods

[hollow atlas]

i tested a bit with my friend using base lethal expansion and we had no outstanding issues iirc

[golden venture]

yeah i would like to use that too as it has no annoying extra stuff just moon modules

[lofty canyon]

Untested, but it's something lethal expansion is doing to the moon in leave that's messing it up

[tall jetty]

how should i test it? just enter via fire exit and go back outside?

[lofty canyon]

For me, a consistent way to break it was go to a moon (Titan in my testing), test the doors (they always worked the first time for me), leave the moon, then immediately return to the same moon and test the doors again

[tall jetty]

ok imma do it now

brb

https://tenor.com/view/curses-foiled-again-he-man-meh-skeleto-gif-16546096

[lofty canyon]

yeah though it wouldn't work, afaik it's nothing to do with the additional content it's just whatever LE is doing to moons makes things mess up

[lofty canyon]

I mean to me lethallib covers basically all bases (with custom moons now that seem to be basically fully compatible with custom dungeons, at least from fiddling with oobl), but there's always the ever present issue of https://xkcd.com/927/

xkcd: Standards

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

[echo dune]

LethalLib will be. I just need a couple more days to polish up it’s moon intergration

[magic plinth]

Jesters can never go through doors for some reason

[fresh island]

Lol yeahh

[analog crown]

The possibilities of this mod are endless, there is so much stuff that just makes this mod a win

[lofty canyon]

Minor update

1.3.2

• Tweaked moon config to be more flexible and support modded moons better
• More detailed logging of processes and additional error notify messages
• Lethal Expansion incompatibility note

SCP: Facility (custom dungeon mod) [1.3.2]

[leaden pasture]

first question, is FoundationGuaranteed only true for the moons on the list? either way, how "guaranteed" is 300?

second more unrelated question to other mod users, anyone know the internal name of this moon? https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Zingar/SecretLabs/
pretty clear what my goal is with these configs

[lofty canyon]

yes, the guaranteed setting only applies to the moons the foundation is set to actually spawn on

I think the internal moon name of that mod is "Secret Labs", though note it's a lethal expansion mod so compatability might be tenuous

[leaden pasture]

really hoping we get some good base apis and sdks so the lethal expansion chaos with lots of incompats and forced moons/scrap and config additions eases for yall devs

[lofty canyon]

also the weighting depends on how the moons' own dungeon setup is weighted, if it's like vanilla moons a value of 300 would make it roughly 50/50

[leaden pasture]

yeah unfortunately my friend fell through the floor when entering the dungeon lol, sad that moon mods all use LE currently

[timid quiver]

Downgrade LE to 1.3.8 or use LethalExpansionCore and it will work 🙂

[leaden pasture]

will try, if not imma leave it spawning on titan sometimes for now

[lofty canyon]

Only partially works, it still breaks on the older versions the second time you visit a moon and get the SCP foundation

[waxen drift]

But with lethalexpansioncore it works right?

[lofty canyon]

According to b1adewo1f who tested with just the core the issue remains

[wooden zealot]

from my current testing the perpetual falling to non hosts has only happend on modded moons, using core only

[leaden pasture]

yep

core/1.38 doesnt fix it at all, though as usual normal moons work fine (so, obvs lethal expansion's fault if anyone is at doubt lol, the dungeon works fine)

[errant sandal]

Unable to play normally on custom planets, I died not long after I entered the dungeon. Is it possible to set separate spawn probability for each moon?

[stray estuary]

does config need to be the same for all players? when hosting im the only one that can enter the building without falling infinitely in the void

[errant sandal]

Yes,everyone must share the config settings.

[stray estuary]

ty

[nocturne moss]

when is it planned for config sync because the base chance of the SCP Dungeon is really low

[lofty canyon]

probably not too soon, it's a bit complicated to sync custom dungeon settings

[nocturne moss]

ah ok

[dense apex]

Could you give me some more details? I tried 10 or so times under different conditions, entering and leaving multiple times with LethalExpansionCore but I couldn't get it to happen, as soon as I switched to LethalExpansion it started happening

[timid quiver]

Which issue?

[dense apex]

falling into the void when entering the dungeon

[serene spruce]

is there a config for this mod

i couldnt find it

even after starting and closing the game

no config file

lethallib was outdated thats why it didnt generate a config ^

[echo dune]

Why?

[timid quiver]

Custom moon?

If its a vanilla moon, everyone using the same config and you are using 1.3.8 or Core it should be fine

At least thats how I "fixed" it

[dense apex]

Custom moon yes, he said there was still an issue with core so I was trying to investigate it

[lofty canyon]

I tested Titan which broke consistently with lethal expansion for me on the second visit getting the SCP foundation

[lofty canyon]

Adding dungeons is handled by the lethal lib on launch in the menu while config sync needs to after the server is up

[dense apex]

With original or core?

[lofty canyon]

Tested with original, b1adewo1f reported it broke with core too

[cold scaffold]

is there a problem with custom moons? worried about running into problems since I have both this and custom moons installed

[lofty canyon]

from testing if you get the scp foundation on the same moon twice it will break the fire exit the second time

[hallow mirage]

Does anyone know a fix for non-host players falling through the floor

[lofty canyon]

and possibly other issues, some people haven't had enough trouble to be bothered so you can try using it but just note if you encounter any issues note that LE is very likely the cause

[lofty canyon]

A. does everyone have the same config settings B. do you have lethal expansion (core or otherwise)

[hallow mirage]

No, and yes i have the most recent version

[lofty canyon]

everyone needs to have the same config settings

[hallow mirage]

Gotcha

[lofty canyon]

and lethal expansion is a known issue, especially the latest versions

older version may be a bit more stable but the latest release especially is very buggy with custom interiors from lethallib

[hallow mirage]

I’ll keep that in mind

[lofty canyon]

ultimately anything to do with lethal expansion and custom interiors is that issues are known and not really solvable on custom interior end, use at your own discretion and willingness to deal with unpredictable bugs

[hallow mirage]

Alright, thx for the info

[vapid moss]

I wish custom scraps didn't rely on lethal expansion ngl

[echo dune]

they dont, lethallib suports em too

[vapid moss]

yea but majority of the scrap mods at least rely on LE

[echo dune]

i havent looked into config stuff yet but we should be able to re-inject that dungeon stuff if the config sync demands it later on

i don't think the game even looks at any dungen stuff till it tries to generate

[lofty canyon]

probably, just means having to go fiddle with dungeon stuff without using lethallib

[safe schooner]

what do you dislike about LE? if its all the random crap it adds you could always install the LE(Core) fork of it instead

[echo dune]

na i mean like i can prob get it into lethallib once moon stuff is pushed

[lofty canyon]

oh right, yeah having the config sync being built into lethal lib would be super handy

[vapid moss]

I dont dislike it but it breaks a fair bit of mods

[cold scaffold]

yeah i wish moon mods would use a different dependency instead of LE

[safe schooner]

like what? i havent noticed anything yet and i have like 60 mods installed

[vapid moss]

what do you mean like what, read up like literally 5 messages

multiplayer desync, fire exit breaks

[echo dune]

soon

[safe schooner]

my bad i kinda just hopped in the conversation without reading anything

[novel root]

Does this break with BrutalCompanyPlus? I wandered a sizeable portion of the facility and found a single toothpaste and little to no enemies

[lofty canyon]

not aware of any issues with BCP, but if it messes with how scrap spawns are handled it may have incompatibilities

[novel root]

it do

same with enemies i would assume

[lofty canyon]

if it tweaks dungeon spawning parameters it may have also just made a collossal dungeon

I'll do some quick testing

[novel root]

as far as i can tell, it doesn't mess with dungeon parameters, only enemy rarity, scrap rarity and scrap value

could b wrong tho

[lofty canyon]

seems like it's working fine, it's possibly tweaking dungeon parameters because this is gigantic, so you might have just been unlucky

[novel root]

holy

[analog crown]

Wait question

[lofty canyon]

says there's about 50 scrap for me

but it's so big that they're all spread out super thin

[analog crown]

Will u ever add the different containment zones

[novel root]

ye if it works like that makes sense why i wasnt finding shit

[analog crown]

You could make another fire exit like thing that teleports you there instead. (Containment zone to zone)

[lofty canyon]

I've been floating the idea and it's definitely possible, just that it would rely on large dungeons so it'd act super wonky on moons with low scale factors (i.e. experiment and all the cheap moons)

[lofty canyon]

also this room lmao

[analog crown]

Erm that is a problem

Perhaps depending on the tier it could have heavy zone or not

[lofty canyon]

hmm, yeah having different zones only available on some moons is also possible, would complicate the config though

[analog crown]

I mean if it works it works. If it does its job can't really say it's overcomplicated unless it breaks the game

Although

It's still your choice

But wouldn't there be issues with entities ?

Like too many

I saw people talking about it

[lofty canyon]

don't think so

[novel root]

gah damn, but also i look at brutal company plus and nothing seems to point to it changing the dungeon size, would increasing the amount of scrap the spawns on a map increase dungeon size?

[analog crown]

If you go around adding hcz I'm gonna assume your not gonna add Tesla gates.... Right?

[echo dune]

It won't be in the initial release but i'd love to experiment with more dynamic options for this. so custom moon creators can add tags like "Forest, Desert, Snow" to their moon that you could look for, or min-max price range and etc

[lofty canyon]

scrap shouldn't be directly tied to dungeon size, no idea how bcp works though, might tweak dungeon size to compensate for events

[analog crown]

Well I hope all goes well. But I got a question.

In terms of creating new dungeons on a scale of 1-10 how easy is it?

[novel root]

shiet ill just ask

[lofty canyon]

relative to creating other new stuff for LC I'd put it around a 6 or so, 8 if you wanted to add unique stuff to the dungeon like interactables/etc that aren't part of the base game

working on a guide now which will come with a template to work with

[echo dune]

^ itll be a lot easier as time goes on

[analog crown]

What game engine do you use?

[lofty canyon]

Unity? can't really make stuff for a Unity game without being in Unity

[analog crown]

Oh I'm dumb

Doesn't that cost money

[lofty canyon]

no unity is free

[analog crown]

W h a t

[novel root]

shouldn't, you can install it with a personal license which is free

[analog crown]

I thought it wasn't?

Alr I'm making my own dungeon 🤓

[novel root]

[analog crown]

I already know what im gonna do... Thanks much

[analog girder]

i dont know if it was fixed yet but a few days ago all my friends would fall through the floor when entering the dungeon and i would be the only one able to go in

[fresh island]

do you have LCAPI or LethalExpansion?

[polar yoke]

how are you viewing that debug stuff?

[lofty canyon]

unity explorer

[analog girder]

if you're talking to me then yes

[lofty canyon]

latest version of lethal expansion is particularly buggy with custom interiors

[analog girder]

oh ok, do you know if itll be fixed at some point?

[lofty canyon]

not sure, not much I can really do on my end

[analog girder]

ok thanks

[analog girder]

would downgrading it help?

[lofty canyon]

1.3.6 is still buggy but partially functional

[analog girder]

ok

[timid quiver]

If its on vanilla moons works fine except for the fire exits. On custom moons wont work

[serene spruce]

Why is the map so huge and little scrap 😦

[lofty canyon]

is the scan giving you less than normal scrap?

[boreal sable]

I get a high count but low scrap value on Titan. Testing it before putting it into my modpack. It's about happened almost everytime there is SCPdungeon on Titan. (Not all the time tho)

No configuations touched.

[feral flame]

i was thinking it was spawning fair amounts of scrap it just isnt spawning the large 2 handed scrap

[stray estuary]

when playing with friends we found that the map is very large, but when exploring for several minutes completely splitting up, we only found one whole inventory of scrap in total. spawn rates dont seem to be the issue, theres just too much dead space that makes it take much longer to find scrap. maybe this is just something we experienced and we could just be bad, but we were playing with 5 people. to fix this id say just let scrap spawn in hallways and make it a config option if its too big of a change. other than that its a great mod, and we’ve had a lot of fun playing it, props to you!

[serene spruce]

Haven’t checked will do later, but the issue might be that the dungeon is so huge and the scrap gets diluted and hard to find?

Is this a bug or is it intentional for it to be a very huge dungeon

[lofty canyon]

2-handed scrap spawning should be fixed

[lofty canyon]

It might be the dungeon just generating very big, I'll do some testing and look at tuning the dungeon length down

problem is scaling is per-moon so the dungeon generation on Titan being right might make its generation on something like Experimentation be unusually small

[sour pollen]

does this mod only work when there's 4 ppl

[timid quiver]

Works with any amount of people

[untold cairn]

That is just not true. There's more scrap mods made for LethalLib than for LethalExpansion.

[vapid moss]

my bad, you are right 🤓

[static yarrow]

@lofty canyon any plans to make it so you can open doors that are behind you like in the scp game?

so you can open and close while watching coilhead

[untold cairn]

Does anyone know the internal name of Secret Labs moon?

[leaden pasture]

Secret Labs

written like that lol

[lyric pasture]

so do i just add this to the list of moons the scp interior can spawn on?

[lofty canyon]

yeah, just mind lehal expansion compatibility is iffy especially with later versions

[lyric pasture]

okay appreciate it!

[analog crown]

do you think you know when your gonna release it?

[lofty canyon]

in progress, currently waiting on the custom scrap guide pull request to go through then I'll work on the custom dungeon guide

[analog crown]

what do you mean by custom scrap guide pull request?

[lofty canyon]

on the wiki

[analog crown]

alr!

[shut wren]

I haven't really tested the mod yet, are their C.A.S.S.I.E announcements like in SCP:CB/SL?

[peak quartz]

did you get the falling thru the map issue fixed by downgrading to 1.3.6? 😄

[feral flame]

Falling through map issue is caused by config desync

[lofty canyon]

It can be caused by either config desync or lethal expansion's versions after 1.3.8

[feral flame]

man the lethal expansion incompatibility just keeps getting worse

[feral flame]

odd, im running lethal expansion 1.3.11 and im not getting this issue

[lofty canyon]

What version? Anything 1.3.8 and prior the only bug I know of is the fire exit issue

[feral flame]

1.3.11

fire exits are still busted but nobody is falling through the world

[lofty canyon]

Hmm, maybe there was a change inbetween that resolved the major incompatibility

[lofty canyon]

1.4.0

• Added SCP 914 room (Not funtional... yet)
• Adjusted dungeon generation to make smaller dungeons (plus additional tweaks to try and make generation more consistent)
• Added new config option to allow customization of the dungeon size (use with caution)

SCP: Facility (custom dungeon mod) [1.4.0]

(this update also comes with a tweak to doors that might fix turrets shooting through doors but I got super unlucky with turrets, if someone else can check that it'd be appreciated)

(and report if the doors are seethrough to enemies again if that happens from the change on the offchance that broke)

[fiery radish]

@lofty canyon Just found the SCP 914 room and fell through the floor

[lofty canyon]

oup

[fiery radish]

It was Larry all along

[lofty canyon]

true it's a feature trust me

1.4.1

• fixed 914 room collision (oopsie)

[lofty canyon]

(should be fixed when thunderstore pushes the update)

SCP: Facility (custom dungeon mod) [1.4.1]

[fiery radish]

Also a few other things I just found on ver 1.4.0

Slimes can go through closed doors, I found a doorway a slime couldn't pass (and probably other monsters too), and a room where the floor sounds are different to other rooms

room with floor sounds

[lofty canyon]

Hmm guess the door tweak didn't fix things, will probably revert it

[boreal charm]

a few days ago when i played slimes still couldn't go through doors

if it's still happening its not because of the door tweaks

[fiery radish]

Also 1.4.1 I had 2 thumpers get stuck on an open door and a bracken on another, it was 2 of the large rooms adjacent to each other, maybe it's something to do with the doors being open? Like it's sort of a reverse thing for monsters? Because that slime came through a closed one

[hushed helm]

What is the %chance for 100?

And 300?

[peak quartz]

scoopysvarietymod lists 300 as 50% and im guessing its the same here, based on nothing but guessing xd

[hushed helm]

Hm i wondering how the overlaping on perchant chance works

[red yarrow]

Same

[hushed helm]

B.c i get more often scoopy dungeon than scp dungeon

[red yarrow]

I also wonder why the percentage is like this

It’s such a weird system

[peak quartz]

Same bro, i feel like a 0-100 would make much more sense

but theres probably a reason

[red yarrow]

A number from 1-300, with 300 being the max with a 50% chance??

Like the 0-100% system WOULD make more sense

i just can’t think of a reason for it at all

[peak quartz]

yeah totally agree xD its a confusing setting for sure

me neither, but probably is some weird unthinkable reason for it haha

[red yarrow]

Like at max, i’d expect to be able to set it to a % higher than 50

And it’d most likely be possible, since there is a config option to make it always spawn

Which would basically force it to be a 100% chance

[hushed helm]

Does anyone know if this is host only setting

Does other player need to change this to match ur setting?

[boreal charm]

you guys are misunderstanding, 300 is not always 50%, it's relative to what other dungeons in the pool are weighted. the default varies from moon to moon, but on most moons the dominant dungeon is weighted as 300. adding another moon also weighted at 300 raises the probability of both to 50% since they're both equally as likely. adding another 300 moon takes them all to 33%, and so on

weight is just how many times it's added to the pool

[lofty canyon]

Configs need to be identical across all players

[red yarrow]

Ah that’s why

I thought 300 was just an arbitrary number

That makes more sense

[hushed helm]

What is the weight for titan with facility and mansion?

[shut wren]

Probably 300/100 by default

[lofty canyon]

the weight for facility is 300, mansion is 69 weight on Titan

[peak quartz]

Thanks alot this makes sense!

[small stream]

Dungeon/Interior variety is the thing I felt the game was missing the most, and after trying this mod out last night with friends, it has revived my interest in the game. Thank you.

[undone shell]

Yup, having new moons is nice don't get me wrong, but ultimately 90% of the game is spent inside the facility not outside. So having more interior variations > having more moons.

[small stream]

That's how I feel too. The new moons are nice, but since you only really run from ship to entrance, or ship to fire escape, they don't really add very much. It's the interiors that make the experience.

I wish the base game had more interior variety.

[lofty canyon]

In fairness custom interiors right now are super difficult to set up correctly compared to custom moons, but there's efforts to make it easier

[small stream]

I assumed as much, since there's only 3 interior mods, and like 20 new moon mods.

will "interiors" or "dungeons" be added as a tag on thunderstore soon? It was hard to find mods that add that on the site because there's no tag for it like there is for moons.

[lofty canyon]

Could ask the person running the thunderstore page about it

[fiery radish]

Also did further testing in the recent session I played, i had another slime stuck at a doorway, closed the door while it was there and it just opened the door and came through, not sure how much that helps but how'd the slime open the door?

[lofty canyon]

Weird, slimes shouldn't be able to open doors

[livid dune]

Do any mods prevent the dungeon from spawning that we know of?

[lofty canyon]

Lethal expansion

[small stream]

I have seen videos of people getting it to spawn with Lethal expansion, but i haven't been able to

[livid dune]

Hmm I've currently got that disabled

[lofty canyon]

Not the lethal SDK or lethal core either?

And does everyone have the same config?

[livid dune]

I'm testing it solo

[livid dune]

Niether

[lofty canyon]

Oh is it an issue of not showing up not falling into the void?

What's your current config in that case?

[livid dune]

Oh it's just sending me to the default dungeon type

Stupid question but is the "All" case sensitive?

[lofty canyon]

Should be lower case

[livid dune]

yeah it was all caps for me

[lofty canyon]

I'll probably adjust it to be case insensitive next update

[livid dune]

Hmm

With the size as -1

Still not spawning

[lofty canyon]

Odd, does it work if you put in the moons manually? E.g. does the default config work

Also I'm noticing some config description issues there, might have messed something up there

I'll be home from work in about 3 hours to check

[lofty canyon]

@livid dune think you could provide a log for me to check?

[peak quartz]

hmm friends still fall through the ground when entering door, ive downgraded to lethal expansion 1.3.6 as suggested but still doesnt work, any idea what could cause this?

[small stream]

I had this happen when players had different configs

I didn't even have Lethal Expansion. I removed it because SCP wasn't even working with it.

[verbal flame]

Is there an SDK for creating dunGEn or template or tutorial thingo?

[lofty canyon]

tutorial is in progress, which will come with a template to work off

[peak quartz]

Its weird tho, i send all my friends a modpack ive precreated with configs and everything 🤔 Can the configs reset when they launch the game?

[timid quiver]

Are you using BiggerLobby or MoreCompany?

[peak quartz]

Morecompany 🙂

[timid quiver]

Hmm interesting, it works fine for my group with MoreCompany but not with BiggerLobby. Make sure to have the same config as they suggested

[peak quartz]

Thanks for the help anyways! Yeah im certain they have the same config, unless its a known issue that configs reset upon launching game(which i doubt)

[peak quartz]

I will try updating to the latest lethalexpansion next but i doubt ittl fix anything hehe, which lethalexpansion are you using if i may ask?

[lofty canyon]

can't really help much with lethal expansion support, best I can recommend is just testing with LAN till you find what works

[peak quartz]

alright cheers, do you know if theres any way to run two instances of lc on my computer with lan? or do i have to buy it again and run it on another pc to test? xd

[lofty canyon]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1184708473800364083

[peak quartz]

Thankyou i appreaciate it:D

[peak quartz]

I managed to replicate the bug in lan, both configs are the same. I will start disabling mods and testing whenever i have time 😄 ill make sure to post if i find any useful info

[inner acorn]

i have the same issue and im sure everyone have the same config, ping me if you find a solution pls

it's only happening on custom moons when using "all" in config, on vanilla map its working @lofty canyon

[peak quartz]

Alright i will do 😄 thanks for the additional info, havent really tested on vanilla moons but if it works there im really thinking its something to do with lethalexpansion 🤔 but definitely weird as weve seen content creators manage to play scp interior on scp moon

[small stream]

I've been having the issue for a specific player in my group, no matter what, and we weren't using modded moons at all. If you find a specific cause, let me know.

[lofty canyon]

Lethal expansion support seems to come and go with every other version, as well as just having random bugs in general

[small stream]

everyone else was fine, but 1 player just always falls endlessly through the floor.

[inner acorn]

yea maybe, i even tried to only run scp dungeon without scoopy dungeon i taught maybe they conflict and generate 2 interior on 1 map but no, also using coomfy deungeon doesnt seem to impact the bug

[inner acorn]

make him double check his config if he's the only one maybe

[peak quartz]

Yeah same actually tried disabling scoopy earlier too to no avail xD

[peak quartz]

Willdo! but as inFiniTea suggested i would look into the config files of the guy thats having the error and compare it to yours

[lofty canyon]

Scoopy should be fully compatible, we're both using lethal lib

And if there are any issues specifically from ours clashing I can work on that

[peak quartz]

Alright good to know thanks 😄 i will try different versions of lethalextension aswell and see if anything works xd ill let you know if i find any clashes with scoopy but i doubt ill find any

[inner acorn]

is this also happening whithout any other mods enabled ?, like only the bare minimum to run custom moon and interiors ? because i did'nt try this

[peak quartz]

I feel so dumb for not trying this lmao, ill definitely test if i can replicate the bugs with the bare minimum of mods

[inner acorn]

yea u should let me know, this could save a ton of time before doing mod by mod

[lofty canyon]

The mod needed for custom moons right now is lethal expansion which is a known problem mod

[peak quartz]

Yeah ive tested both 1.3.6 and 1.3.13 and both seem to have the issue, i will do a bare minimum install tho to cut some variables

[inner acorn]

i know thats what im saying like if its not working with only lethal expension, that mean there is no need to test each mod one by one to find a compatibility problem

[peak quartz]

probably saving me so much time haha ty

[inner acorn]

also back in the day i found that sometimes, deleting the lethalcompany folder in %appdata% can fix some weird issue, maybe not this timle but good to know

this could have saved me 3 days of testing if i knew earlier lol @peak quartz

[peak quartz]

ooo interesting thanks 😄 i guess some mods store data in appdata too maybe

[inner acorn]

i think its more linked to save data, like it can store info in the save and that can impact even a fresh new save, very weird tho

[peak quartz]

ahh yeah makes sense, i just checked appdata and theres alot of files from previously deleted mods :DD probably smart to delete them xd

managed to replicate the falling to the void bug with only SCPfoundationdungeon, lethalexpansion and secret labs moon installed. so theres definitely an incompatibility from lethalexpansion. (in my opinion)

ill test different versions next

[verbal flame]

that's poggers
there's a few dungens I know need to exist and I'll enjoy making em :o

[peak quartz]

I have absolutely no progress made after testing LethalExpansion version 1.1.4, 1.1.7, 1.2.0, 1.2.14, 1.3.0, 1.3.3, 1.3.6 and the latest version 1.3.13
(all these were tested with only secret labs, lethalexpansion and scpdungeon enabled. Also it was on latest bepinex 5.4.22.0)

I am confused and i will try more troubleshooting tomorrow lmao

Also found an user on LE github stating that
1.3.8 and below would work for custom interiors, whereas i didnt get any to work which is weird

[lofty canyon]

Different versions of lethal lib may also change how compatible it is with LE, just as a note

[boreal charm]

have you looked into lighting bugs? it's been an issue with this interior since 1.0.0. mainly around those air lock rooms but it's kinda weird in other places too

[lofty canyon]

It's something to do with the export of room assets from CB breaking normals I think, not a modeller so not sure how to resolve it

[small stream]

I have seen people play the SCP moon with the SCP interior, so i know it has worked for some people, but I couldn't get it to work

[small stream]

normal mapping would be a texture thing

[lofty canyon]

Nah I think it's the actual vertex/face normals not material

I don't have normal maps on most of the textures

[peak quartz]

aaah cheers bro, ill test that tomorrow when i wake up 😎 that would make alot of sense

[paper condor]

my friends and i have the same exact files but cant get the dungeon to generate for anyone but the host :(

[inner acorn]

add the dungeon only on vanilla moons, thats the fix for now

[paper condor]

gotcha, shame since the secret labs moon would have been sick :(

will there be fixes made ?

[lofty canyon]

Lethal expansion is known incompatible with any interior mods

Which causes that

[paper condor]

odd, cause the other interior mods I have work fine

but maybe it is just modded 🤷‍♂️

[lofty canyon]

I mean the only other one in release rn is scoopys which also has identical issues

[paper condor]

Yeah, it has no issues for me vanilla wise so maybe it is just the modded maps

[shut wren]

there seems to be an issue with consistently falling through the map

[lofty canyon]

using lethal expansion?

[fiery radish]

There should be a bingo sheet in this thread with LethalExpansion

[shut wren]

yup

[lofty canyon]

that's the problem

[vapid moss]

but like, is the author of lethal expansion aware of these incompatibilities?
or its something interior authors can fix

[undone shell]

I would be more amazed if they didn't know tbh

[north cobalt]

I have an issue where i can't get it to spawn on any map what so ever even with the effective spawn set to true.

and my config when changed to example only titan spawn just resets and makes it set to spawn on all maps

[lofty canyon]

can you share your config?

[north cobalt]

These maps were added before i removed them but i tried testing with the clean vanilla just that and scoopy and i cant get it to spawn on any map

[lofty canyon]

try removing the spaces after the commas

[north cobalt]

oh damn i didnt even think of that

[lofty canyon]

and if there's still problems send the log you get after launching to the main menu

[peak quartz]

i will start testing different lethallib versions with LE version 1.3.8 to see if it changes anything now 🙂

[exotic hinge]

thing is like a week ago i was playing with 7 friends using both lethal expansion and scp interior and i wasnt getting any desync for many many games

now we get it every single time

sad had to get rid of lethal expansion

we spent like 4 hours bug testing with different versions of lethal expansion and everything and eventually gave up lol

[peak quartz]

Goddamn im sorry haha :/ issue seems so back and forward its weird, wouldnt surprise me if theres external factors we arent thinking about causing this in regard to LE heh. I will try downgrading every single mod to like pre new years or earlier

[echo dune]

have you guys had desync issues with enemies not seeing certain players?

hijacking badhma's thread a little just curious from people actually playing custom dungeon content

[peak quartz]

Yesssssss ive had that! on custom moons if that matters

And this was on vanilla dungeons, i havent gotten interiors to work on custom moons ever

Coilheads sprinting away from players as soon as host is dead etc

[vapid moss]

had that too here, coilheads only counted host looking at them, and just practically killed everyone except host cuz them watching was straight up ignored

also Jester rarely ignores players, but just yesterday happened when I hosted a game and was killed by it, but the person next to me safely exited

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[echo dune]

custom moon? custom dungeon?

[vapid moss]

custom dungeon, it was on titan

we dont have custom moons installed

[timid quiver]

Only on custom moons, custom dungeons are working fine on that regard so again, LE issues 😅

[north cobalt]

Oh mb

i shouldve put only

there

only secret labs and scp interior added

[north cobalt]

.

I've tested the map 3 times in total with effective spawn on true

still doesnt spawn

[distant patrol]

So if I'm using Expansion but i keep this from occurring on custom moons, would we see any issues?

Or would it generate without issue on the default moons i have it set to

[north cobalt]

Is expension needed to run these interiors and maps?

[peak quartz]

I have tried so many different versions of LE and lethallib, even switched between earlier scpfoundationdungeon versions to see if it made a difference, but doesnt seem like the dungeongenerating wants to load for player at any version

[peak quartz]

Expansion usually ruins the interiors (atleast on custom moons). id definitely reccomend playing without expansion if possible

[north cobalt]

I might try because i've searched for answers and on 3 diffrent discord servers everyone indicated its an issue with expansion

[peak quartz]

Yes it 100% should be an issue with LE :d

[north cobalt]

Is there a diffrent kinda of mod that can replace expansion

like i'd like to run secret labs but not with expansion

[peak quartz]

I dont think so but definitely let me know if you find any! i know theres a Lethal expansion debloated version, but it also gives me the falling to the void as player bug unfortenuatly :/

I kinda want maps to become undependent on LethalExpansion atm 😂

[open agate]

What i Need to write to make SCPdungeon spawn only on vanilla moons

?

[dense apex]

Are you running the exact same mods/config as the host? I have never been able to get the void bug with LethalExpansionCore only with LethalExpansion

[peak quartz]

I am running 2 instances of the game on my pc to test so im 99% certain it cant be a different config

[zealous pasture]

The mod dosent work for me no matter what lol. To adittion im using LethalExpansion and backrooms mod.

[peak quartz]

but i will retry lethalexpansioncore! thanks

[peak quartz]

Yeah same here, ive tried for 5+ hours at this point using several version combinations xD the one ive heard is supposed to work with interiors is lethallib 0.9.0 and lethalexpansion 1.3.8 but doesnt work for me unfortenuatly

[zealous pasture]

this is pain in the ass I also tried Scoopys variety mod, but that one dosent work either.

[peak quartz]

for sure is :))) im not giving up yet tho and ill post a solution if i ever find one (which seems more and more unlikely)

[zealous pasture]

I will try this, but first ill try to delete backrooms mod.

[peak quartz]

yeah probably a good idea to remove any external factors 😄 im running only the bare necassary while testing atm and it definitely seems to be a LE issue

[dense apex]

let me know how it goes! if it still happens could you tell me what mods you have? and maybe a copy of the configs

[peak quartz]

I will letyou know 😄 trying it soon, and yeah can send configs to confirm:)

[dense apex]

Also to everyone using LethalExpansion, if you have noticed desync issues in the dungeon on a custom moon (mobs ignoring you for instance) one cause of that was found today and is being tracked here https://github.com/HolographicWings/LethalExpansion/issues/20, hopefully we can have a resolution to that soon!

[peak quartz]

Ooo thanks bro ive had that issue too! (we kinda didnt mind it for the session as it created some hillarious moments for us xD) but definitely would like that fixed too

And Joakim you just gave me my first breakthrough, i just tested scoopys variety mod on the custom moon waterridge with the debloated LethalExpansion and boom my player instance managed to get in 😮 now theres hope xD (I used the mods Bepinex 5.4.22, Lethallib 0.9.0, HookGenPatcher 0.0.5, LethalExpansionCore(with the oldseaport module) and scoopys variety mod 0.5.1)

Now i will install scpfoundationdungeon and see if it works with that interior too 🙂

[humble linden]

Me and my friends tried this mod but everyone except for me (host) spawned somewhere in the wall. I could hear them but I couldnt see them and they couldnt move. We then removed the mod for now. My guess is that it didnt work because it was a modded moon but im not sure about that. Idk if this is a know issue but i just wanted to report it here

[peak quartz]

Scpfoundationinterior seems to work on LethalExpansionCore 1.3.6 on the map waterridge, my next test will be zingars secret labs with scp foundation 🙂 looks promising

only thing that sucks is the console is getting spammed with errors like Max shadow requests count reached and other errors, but i choose to ignore them for the time being

[polar yoke]

turrets shooting through doors seems to be fixed

[tall jetty]

everyone has the same config right?

cause i dont think config sync's been implemented yet

[humble linden]

yeah we all had the same config. we played before but the dungeon didnt appear at all, thats when we realized that we need to have the same config so that isnt the issue.

[north cobalt]

Did you use the lethal expansion core modules aswell?

also a mod seperate by jockie?

[humble linden]

I had this issue with 2 different friend groups btw but it was modded moon everytime so...

[peak quartz]

I just pulled the modules from the original lethal expansion and put it into LethalExpansionCore, but im guessing its the same as using that 🙂 (i also deleted the original lethal expansion completely)

I tried launching scpfoundationdungeon on the map secret labs, and my player instance ended up spawning in the first staircase 🤔 will retry

_
Alright it works now on the second try! it might be inconsistent and definitely isnt the best of solutions :))

But if you download Bepinex 5.4.22, Lethallib 0.9.0, HookGenPatcher 0.0.5, SCPFoundationDungeon 1.4.1, LethalExpansionCore (1.3.6) and finally Zingars Secret Labs 3.2.2 you should be able to run scp interior on secret labs map 🙂 i will see if i missed anything important

#remember bepinex 5.4.22 is the latest github version and not the thunderstore version (although both might work as i havent really tested the thunderstore one)

[tall jetty]

but can you do two consequent runs without the fire exit breaking

[peak quartz]

I can test that! This is the first time ever i managed for 2 players to get into the scp interior on secret labs moon so havent really ever tried a fire exit xD

ill let you know

But the lethalexpansioncore is 1.3.6 so i dont doubt theres gonna be alot of additional bugs

Also anyone know why this might happen? There seems to be no missing textures ingame, but my consolelog keeps saying this upon generating dungeon. (ill ignore this untill i find a corresponding issue ingame)

[fickle sky]

I've played this dungeon constantly even trying to add more enemies I only have the snare fleas show even in big groups. And be like 2 items max and get s tier when we leave anyway you can add more items spawn cause we just stopped using it no items or monsters we just end up walking around aimlessly every time

[polar yoke]

the item spawns depends on the moon, not the dungeon

[peak quartz]

Might be the dungeon generation thats too huge

[peak quartz]

Testing fireexits for the second run now 🙂 (back to back) ill let you know if the fireexits work or not soon

Hmm is it the "Fire exit seems to be blocked" that means its broken? . i will check the other fire exits in case its a map feature that it blocks and unlocks random ones

[tall jetty]

yeah its a known issue sadly

breaks every time when LE is enabled

on subsequent days

any moon

[peak quartz]

aaah that sucks yeah :/ do you know if it is only moons with multiple exits or just all moons?

[tall jetty]

i think all moons

it breaks on titan

[peak quartz]

holy fuckk a mimic just scared the shit out of me while i was reading your msg XD Anyways yeah alright that probably means its all moons then :/

hmm ill check if maybe the fire exit bug resets upon going to a vanilla interior moon inbetween, even though thats not ideal for playing

[peak quartz]

Sorry for all the questions, but do you know if its only the fire exit from outside>in thats broken? Like im wondering if firexit from inside>out would work 🤔 it might just show the same there idk

[tall jetty]

Honestly no idea, but I bet its the same both ways

[peak quartz]

Yeah wouldnt surprise me either tbh haha, ill try to get it checked tho 😄 it would make it atleast a bit useable if you can exit thru them

[north cobalt]

Can you tell me the name of the moons you added to the interior spawns

[north cobalt]

I did this and i still cant spawn something other then facility

is it 102 wateridge or without 102

[peak quartz]

Hmm have you set FoundationGuaranteed = true ?

[north cobalt]

Oh right

[peak quartz]

im not sure as for the wateridge name but some others said it was 102 wateridge 🙂 i tried with "all" when experimentating

on secret labs i just wrote secret labs tho and it worked 😄

[north cobalt]

Did you put secret labs and wateridge on both generations

or each on seperate

[peak quartz]

generations as in attempts? i put all on my first attempt and when that worked with wateridge i tried "secret labs" on the secret labs map to see if it worked 🙂

[north cobalt]

ye mb

im blind

[peak quartz]

is np 😄 always good to be sure

[north cobalt]

Ugh it still didnt spawn

I tried wateridge and 102 wateridge

[peak quartz]

damn im so sorry D: you could try 102 Wateridge with the capital W, im not sure if it is sensitive to that tho

do you get it to spawn with all?

[north cobalt]

Imma try with that now yeh

[peak quartz]

gl man i really hope it works out

[peak quartz]

Is it possible fire exits might not spawn at all on the inside on the second consecutive day? Ive been running around in the scp facility like a madman on march for 5+ mins now xD

all i meet is the spooky monsters

[north cobalt]

Nah its cooked

This damn facility killin my eyes

[peak quartz]

😦 ill try to see if i can get it to work with the 102 wateridge input

xD

[north cobalt]

I tried vanilla maps paid maps modded maps

all i get is this damn facility not even mansion

[small stream]

HJave you tried withoiut Lethal Expansion?

[peak quartz]

It should always work without lethal expansion i think, the problem we are trying to solve is making it work with it :/

[north cobalt]

I did it like him

[small stream]

oh wait I misunderstood

in the config for SCP make sure this is set to false:

[north cobalt]

tried with false and true

still dont work

[small stream]

true should theoretically make every interior be the SCP facility

so def make that false

[north cobalt]

Yeah

But even then it doesnt spawn it

[small stream]

are you trying to make it spawn, or make it not spawn. I'm confused?

[peak quartz]

Wait are you trying to spawn scp facility or variety mod now? 😮

[north cobalt]

Both

I want Variety to spawn on wateridge

and SCP on secret labs

[peak quartz]

aaaahh

alright :d

[small stream]

ah.

[north cobalt]

But i cant get it to spawn on any map

not even vanilla

[peak quartz]

is scp spawning on wateridge for you? or is it the og facility

[north cobalt]

Og

Always og

i rarely got mansion

like 3 times so far

[peak quartz]

ahh oki thats good atleast, that means the scp facility isnt overriding it

[small stream]

that's normal

Yeah, I thought you were saying you were only getting SCP

[north cobalt]

No no im getting the og always

and i want to get SCP at least once hahaha

So i know this shi works

[peak quartz]

yeah understandable xD

[small stream]

This is my moon list, which works for me to get the SCP on all the vanilla moons

[peak quartz]

these are my cfgs atm

[small stream]

I just realized I have vow twice for some reason

[peak quartz]

and it seems to work

Also might be important to check if youve downgraded from lethallib 0.10.1 (most recent version) to 0.9.0 (idk if its necassary but ive done it)

[golden venture]

@tawdry aspen because you put multiple fire exits on your moon the level is broken when combining it with a interior mod

also there is lightning inside

what i recommend is only have 1 fire exit for now

if you want people to be able to use your level with modded moons and scp layout

[peak quartz]

if this is a fix i totally support this

[golden venture]

LethalExpansion has no support for multiple fire exits

the issue is players fall through the level in multiplayer with multiple fire exits

[peak quartz]

hmm i just tried to get varietymod interior to spawn using the 102 Wateridge input but it didnt load for me either 🤔 wonder if theres a format we need to use or something

Cus scp interior would spawn on wateridge using that

[distant patrol]

you realize that interior mods and custom mods have some compatibility issues due to a dependency, right?

[north cobalt]

did

[golden venture]

i am aware but this would fix the issue for everyone

[north cobalt]

I reinstalled thesame versions you did even the github bepinex

[golden venture]

i feel like most people would want to combine secret labs with scp foundation mod

as it just makes sense

but right now this isnt posible in Multiplayer due to LethalExpansion breaking multiple fire exits

[peak quartz]

alright D: try putting the CastleDungeonMoons = all and check

just to see if its loading

[distant patrol]

they would need to work together in general first

[north cobalt]

Yeah i did

I also tested it on vanilla maps aswell

Nothing

[peak quartz]

daaaamn what theee D:

[golden venture]

its a temporary solution

not a permanent one

as it would make everyone happy til a fix comes around

[north cobalt]

idk im going nuts

[golden venture]

idk scoopy variety mod works on all custom levels i put it on

[peak quartz]

same bro i definitely feel your frustration haha, ive been struggling so long with it aswell and new bugs just come the second something gets fixed XD

[golden venture]

if this is what you mean by castleDungeon moon

[peak quartz]

Yeah^ thats what we are trying to get to work for him

[north cobalt]

Maybe i should remove one of the interiors

[golden venture]

all those work

[north cobalt]

imma try that

[golden venture]

ive tested them all manually

[peak quartz]

Yeah try removing scpdungeon and only have varietymod, even though they should be compatible

[golden venture]

the mod requires terminal data not internal level names

fyi

scp however requires internal names

i have scp dungeon and scoopy variety mod

both works for me

[peak quartz]

epicc :d broiiler what lethalexpansion version are you using if i may ask?

[north cobalt]

What versions of bep you got

[golden venture]

latest

[north cobalt]

bruh

[golden venture]

both latest

[peak quartz]

What the hell

[golden venture]

what moon are you trying to do it on ?

[north cobalt]

Any

Legit any

im desperate

[golden venture]

does ur console say anything

error related

maybe some mod compatibility issue from another mod

can i have ur dependencies string

[peak quartz]

i had to downgrade to the LethalExpansionCore 1.3.6 debloated version and lethallib 0.9.0 to get scpinterior/varietyinterior to work on multiplayer :'))

[north cobalt]

I tried it solo without any mod

[golden venture]

i am not using the Core

[north cobalt]

Just SCP or Variety

[golden venture]

i am using the actual LethalExpansion

[peak quartz]

Thats amazing haha

[north cobalt]

Neither was i

[golden venture]

i doubt the core would work

[peak quartz]

The core is the only thing working for me, if i use lethalexpansion my friends will fall through the map as scp/varietymod wont generate a dungeon for them

do you have legacy moon loading set to true?

[golden venture]

actually the vanilla moon isnt working for me

but every modded moon does

so vanilla, didnt work

ima figure that out real quick

[golden venture]

where is this setting

[peak quartz]

in the LethalExpansion config

[strong frigate]

does it help with falling endlessly through the inevitable void

[golden venture]

nope

[peak quartz]

Its something that came after 1.3.9 or smthn because they switched to asynchronous loading (which is thought to be causing the issue)

[golden venture]

thats because a map has multiple fire exits

[peak quartz]

damn bro interesting af

[north cobalt]

huh

[golden venture]

if you are using the moon Secret Labs thats why

[strong frigate]

It was Orion

[distant patrol]

that is also caused by LE from what ive seen

Yeah

[strong frigate]

And titan

[golden venture]

does Orion have more than 1 fire exit ?

[strong frigate]

Don’t think so

[golden venture]

ok nvm thats weird

Titan only has 1

[north cobalt]

But i've played on secret with multiple and it didnt fall to void for me

[strong frigate]

Right

[distant patrol]

Have you tested your setup with other players or just solo

[peak quartz]

yeah i feel like theres so much different solutions that work for different people

its confusing af

[strong frigate]

It’s so unfortunate

[distant patrol]

because the main bugs happen to the non-hosts

[strong frigate]

Everything was working for my group up until last night

[distant patrol]

Which is why LE is so unstable with interior mods

[peak quartz]

Yeah really unfortenuate :/ wish this was LE creators biggest priority tbh

[peak quartz]

Damn that sucks, were you using all the latest updates of everything?

[strong frigate]

Ye

[peak quartz]

Wtf its actually mind blowing, i sat 5 hours yesterday testing everything from most recent all the way down to the version where custom moon support was added

[golden venture]

both

also its not spawning on vanilla moons for me

only modded once

[strong frigate]

I miggt just have to downgrade LE or scoopys idk

[golden venture]

i tried vanilla and all

[peak quartz]

Broiler do you manually mod btw? or r2

[golden venture]

i think i have to add every base level manually

r2

[peak quartz]

ahh alright damn, was hoping you might have a magic way of putting the files XD

[golden venture]

r2modman does that

you can share profile code

[peak quartz]

hmm ill try installing everything of the latest again and input your cfg and we shall see

[golden venture]

and it syncs config with others

it wont work on any vanilla moons yet

let me fix it first

[strong frigate]

I noticed even after sharing my code to my friends some of the configs were different

Like scoopys spawn was set to all for one person, but vanilla for others

[golden venture]

keep in mind dont use internal names for variety mod

only scp foundation

they use different methods

[peak quartz]

yeah true that, making everything into a manual modpack should work too tho since all the configs are set in the files inside bepienx

[peak quartz]

aaaaah damn thanks lol that makes sense

[golden venture]

havent had this issue personally but i remove all outdated configs manually

[strong frigate]

Yeah probably should do that@

[peak quartz]

smart^ seems like they get merged upon updating etc

[golden venture]

so these are the names you want to input

include ID too

[golden venture]

thats exactly what happens if a config has no description to its function it usally means its been removed from the updated config

[peak quartz]

aaaaa yeah makes sense, cus ive seen that tons tbh haha

[north cobalt]

That also explains why when i edit the names of the spawns when i launch the game it resets it back to all

[golden venture]

still having problems making it work in vanilla moons

it works on every modded moon i have

this is weird

maybe i have to use the Internal names for the base levels

as they are not LethalExpansion related

is my theory

lets see if i can get it to work with one map

[peak quartz]

hmm you could try adding their names with commas inbetween instead of vanilla, incase the vanilla function is broken 🤔

[golden venture]

i have made it work with vanilla before though

when i didnt use modded names

its def posible just weird

i think it was just vanilla without a ,

or all

not sure

[peak quartz]

yeah definitely weird but possible imo

[golden venture]

making sure i didnt typo first

lol

it does ask for internal level names

for base game

in the description

it worked

ez

ExperimentationLevel,AssuranceLevel,VowLevel,TitanLevel,RendLevel,DineLevel,OffenseLevel,112 Aquatis,13 Kast,43 Orion,Castle Grounds,Ducky,Abandoned Manor,

here is my preset

[strong frigate]

For dungeon spawn?

[golden venture]

yeah it works on all those moons for me except Castle Grounds and Abandoned Manor havent had time to test it yet

[peak quartz]

But doesnt waterridge have several fire exits too? how come you arent falling thru the void there

[golden venture]

i havent played the level with friends

so idk

but thats how i found out how to add it to modded moons

if it has multiple fire exits im disabling it on that moon

i havent rlly played it

[fickle sky]

So what moon do I need to apply this mod too so I can get monsters and items to spawn

[golden venture]

you shouldnt need a moon for that ?

[peak quartz]

ooooo alright yeah makes sense, so if there was a moon with only 1 fire exit that might work with friends on newest updates🤔

[golden venture]

yeah i will do some tests with my friend later

to make sure everything is good before i bring it into a big lobby

[peak quartz]

Anyways a delboated LethalExpansionCore 1.3.6 and lethallib 0.9.0 + secret labs and scpdungeoninterior will work on multiplayer 🙂 even tho theres multiple fire exits, but the exits will always be broken on day 2 for some reason (and i dont think all the fire exits will work)

[tacit pier]

this fixes the falling through the void bug?

[golden venture]

you should remove 102 Wateridge from it

i updated it

[golden venture]

cant say for sure but it will spawn the dungeon on those levels

with whatever chance you put

where is the 2nd fire exit on wateridge

i only see the one on the 2nd floor

[tacit pier]

where do I put that in? what config file?

[peak quartz]

i will test some custom maps with only 1 fire exit to test it now 🙂 im pretty sure aquatis is 1 fire exit right?

[golden venture]

in here

[tacit pier]

tysm

does only host need to do it or all players?

[peak quartz]

and maybe one of the older zingar secret labs maps have only 1 fireexit

[golden venture]

im pretty sure its all players

i dont see how it would work otherwise

as its loading files

[tacit pier]

gotcha

[golden venture]

prob true but they would also contain more bugs

im just not going to use that level til there is a fix or he removes the fire exits

can still add the scp interior on another map

[peak quartz]

Ahh yeah you are right :/ but fck its such a perfect map to use this interior on

[golden venture]

ah i found the 2nd fire exit on wateridge ok

[peak quartz]

guess ill just have to make due with how it is atm xd

[golden venture]

yeah im not including this map either

hopefully Zingar sees my message and does a temporary fix for us