SCP: Facility (custom dungeon mod) [4.3.4]

[lofty canyon]

A mod that adds the SCP Foundation as a dungeon that can be found, alongside the facility and the manor. By default it will only appear on Titan semi-rarely, but this can be configured.
Thunderstore mod page: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Badham_Mods/SCPFoundationDungeon/
Github: https://github.com/Badhamknibbs/SCPCB_DunGen_LC/

-Fully new dungeon with all new rooms and generation, by default as an uncommon dungeon found on Titan
-Plans for a keycard system; some doors will need a keycard to open, which can be rarely found or purchased
-Planning on possibly including SCP 914 as a functional room, letting you do stuff like turn flashlights into pro flashlights, scrap into better scrap, etc

[buoyant zealot]

oh that looks really good!

[golden venture]

damn

[fair axle]

Holy wow this is good

Definitely keeping an eye on it

[vestal tapir]

Will this be an additional dungeon that can spawn anywhere like the current facility or mansion? Or will it overwrite the facility? Either way this is insanely cool

[lofty canyon]

Anywhere, so Titan will have all 3 possibilities

Though might limit it to harder moons

[burnt basalt]

hahahaha

oh such a menacing place

[spring salmon]

Looks awesome

[plush drift]

it would be nice to make it spawning anywhere a config option :o

[lofty canyon]

I'd say it's almost ready for an alpha release but doors and light bleed/time are kind of show stoppers I'm still trying to figure out

[low wigeon]

take your time improving it, not like people are going anywhere, especially waiting for the good stuff

[echo dune]

do you have an example of the light bleed?

if your meshes are thin enough unity can sometimes just be doing that

[lofty canyon]

You can see in the video in all but the starter room, it has the sunlight even in rooms with no lights in them

[echo dune]

hmm

i could be mistaken but idk if thats sunlight

kinda seems like its just a lack of light? im not sure if this game bakes lighting at all but it kinda looks like a lack of baking of somesort

my experience is only in standalone unity projects tho

[serene spade]

even the base game has light bleeding with the fire exits and just lights in general

[lofty canyon]

It's also causing the time to appear indoors which isn't right, since I think that's to do with whether there's open space above the player?

[serene spade]

odd since the dungeon is literally generated underground

but this is LC so yeah, not surprising

[lofty canyon]

Another thought from skullcrusher is there's some trigger or something that disables sky light client side

[serene spade]

there actually must be something like that

see going in and out of the ship when its lights are off

[echo dune]

Theres a lot of ways you can easily do that in Unity yeah

[serene spade]

the game abuses shortcuts and dirty tricks

the reason why the code is a hot mess and modding is pain

[echo dune]

Of out curiousity, whats the process you've used to make this? I'm very interested in doing custom level design and would love to know more

[serene spade]

Take a look at DunGen

[echo dune]

can you link me? cant find on google

[serene spade]

https://www.aegongames.com/dungen/

[lofty canyon]

Using Lethal lib, and reverse engineering the rooms/DunGen stuff from there with help from evaisa

[serene spade]

Doesn't DunGen have docs ?

[echo dune]

Interesting

[serene spade]

it'd be about declaring rooms, making anchor points, adjusting their weights, randomizing decor, and all that

[echo dune]

Are these "new" rooms being injected into the generation or are you switching and/or overriding pre-existing tiles

[serene spade]

DunGen will take care of the rest

[lofty canyon]

Yeah that's been fairly helpful, but without owning and applying the package it doesn't have all the nice UI stuff

So it's just a bunch of arrays of node values

[serene spade]

Screw DunGen, lets use WFC

[serene spade]

from a graph perspective, that makes perfect sense

altough yeah, fairly annoying to piece togheter then

[vapid peak]

omg yes i love this so much

[serene spade]

i mean we can always come up with something of our own like using Weighted Wave Function Collapse and what not

[lofty canyon]

Making entirely new tile sets/archetypes/flow

[echo dune]

I'm pretty busy today and tomorrow but if your looking for any help getting this mod working i'm happy to trade some of my time for some of your knowledge (I've made games in Unity before just new to modding and IL stuff etc.)

no stress if your soloing this though

[serene spade]

It'd be nice if all rooms and corridors weren't squares too

[lofty canyon]

If you can help me with those aforementioned issues I'd be happy to share knowledge

[lofty canyon]

Technically not restricted to that, can be literally whatever shape, just using SCPCB assets which are primarily box based with few exceptions

[echo dune]

I can try haha, I've messed with skybox/lighting related stuff somewhat recently

[serene spade]

when are we making LC non eucledian

[cosmic prairie]

This is gonna be sick

[lofty canyon]

Working on ooblterra which will probably be much more ambitious with the dungeons

[old magnet]

Let me go ahead and look into the TOD stuff

[echo dune]

I saw the guide on using DNSpy and such to peep the code, But is there a way to look at the scenes and prefab related stuff in Unity?

[old magnet]

use eva's template, then assetripper and throw all the assets into the project

[echo dune]

bet

[lofty canyon]

Can throw you the current assets for this mod to try and figure out if something's missing there later today

[old magnet]

Appreciated

hmm

nothing i can see in the code, at least not where I'd expect

[lofty canyon]

One thing I did notice was the random connector on the teleporter door for the start door that I couldn't figure out the purpose of

Oh also fire exit doors are still todo

[old magnet]

Really? I thought those were automatically defined as exit points

[lofty canyon]

Thought so too but they also seem to double as global props or something to actually spawn

[old magnet]

?

[burnt basalt]

huaaaa

[old magnet]

SetClockVisible

I bet you this is exactly what we're looking for

I was right it's programatic

[lofty canyon]

Ah right you are

[mint crescent]

going through all of the function calls, we end up here:

[lofty canyon]

Any clues on what calls it?

[mint crescent]

so EntranceTeleport#TeleportPlayer() eventually ends up calling SetClockVisible

[old magnet]

I couldn't find that call when i first combed through entranceteleport but that was in DN and not VS so let me look again

[mint crescent]

I'm also using dnSpy

[lofty canyon]

Hmm, must be something going wrong on the door teleporter spawn or something, it's been trouble before

[old magnet]

hmm

[mint crescent]

you need to look for this bool, that's how I ended up in EntranceTeleport

[lofty canyon]

The doors are the most frustrating part of everything to do with custom gen

[lofty canyon]

Guessing I missed something when trying to fix the start door prefab in my decompile, will have to double check everything there

[mint crescent]

EntranceTeleport#TeleportPlayer() does not seem to have any uses inside of C# (according to dnSpy), leading me to believe it's called from somewhere in Unity?
Maybe you're not calling this function and that's why it causes the issue?

[echo dune]

TimeOfDay.Instance.SetInsideLightingDimness(true, this.spectatedPlayerScript.isInsideFactory || this.spectatedPlayerScript.isInHangarShipRoom);

would this be it

[lofty canyon]

Might be from a Unity event on the door script?

[mint crescent]

Yes, that's my thought as well

[old magnet]

EntranceTeleport.TeleportPlayer --> EntranceTeleport.TeleportPlayerClientRPC --> PlayerControllerB.TeleportPlayer

I can't find where that then calls SetInsideLightingDimness

[mint crescent]

Yep, sure looks like it!

[lofty canyon]

Weird as it's teleporting fine but not following up with those other bits

[old magnet]

right

the only reference to SetInsideLightingDimness is actually just its definition in the TimeOfDay class, which would lead me to believe it's something to do with unity...?

[echo dune]

Yeah its messing with the hdrp preset scriptableobject i believe

[mint crescent]

SetInsideLightingDimness is called by TimeOfDay#MoveTimeOfDay(), but insideLighting is set by ChangeAudioReverbForPlayer, which ends up in EntranceTeleport#TeleportPlayer().

[old magnet]

MoveTimeOfDay is called by update

so hmm

[echo dune]

sorry, dumb bitch question, how do i find the playercontroller file

i had it and then lost it 😭

[old magnet]

PlayerControllerB

search for it

[echo dune]

ty

[old magnet]

do you know where setInsideAtmosphere is set?

is that on entrance teleport?

we love public variables

[mint crescent]

No C# usage. It's set inside of Unity:

[old magnet]

TimeOfDay gets its InsideLighting value changed when setInsideAtmosphere is true in the ChangeAudioReverbForPlayer function

so I suppose that's the missing piec

[echo dune]

is it not just done by a unityevent? or am i misunderstanding

[mint crescent]

I've found the GameObject that sets setInsideAtmosphere and insideLighting to 1 in Level1Experimentation.unity.
It's called Office (3) and the reference is ref:27454: (you can use either one in the Hierarchy to search for it).
Unfortunately, my Unity project is broken right now (nothing renders), so I can't see where it is placed in the map.
So, it seems like there are not only entrances, but also AudioReverbTriggers that handle things. Don't you love loosely coupled stuff!

[old magnet]

what the fuck lmao

@lofty canyon when you have a chance try adding a AudioReverbTrigger component to a large trigger box, if you dont have such a setup already

hmm

though it's odd

this object exists for the manor start room but not the facility start room

whoops

[lofty canyon]

Already have one, so isn't that

[old magnet]

is SetInsideAtmosphere set to true?

because the one inside the manor prefab is set to false

for... some reason

[mint crescent]

and insideLighting

[old magnet]

yep

[lofty canyon]

Will check when I get home

I think I copied it from the manor prefab so it probably matches that

[lucid hemlock]

huge

touching stuff using DunGen?

[old magnet]

trying to get entirely custom rooms working

[lucid hemlock]

It's hard

[old magnet]

we're getting closer and closer

[lucid hemlock]

Getting there

[old magnet]

if this works then the last hurdle will I think just be fire exists

[lucid hemlock]

If someone can make a room api

exterior api already exists

[old magnet]

worth noting @lofty canyon if you havent noticed already that there are different level flows for 1 vs 3 fire exists (march)

investigating the difference might prove helpful on that front?

[lucid hemlock]

good luck to this mod, impressive!!

[lofty canyon]

Yeah I was designing around 1 fire exit, I saw the fire exit is I'd 1231 and there was 1 global prop for it in the flow but didn't seem to work

[old magnet]

might it be the same problem with the entry where youre referencing the assetbundle copy of the fire exit instead of the in game one?

[lofty canyon]

Lethal lib has everything, just a matter of making everything

[lofty canyon]

Well it's referenced by ID so I don't think that'd be the case

[old magnet]

right

hmm

[lucid hemlock]

Huh? What about adding to existing rooms?

[lofty canyon]

If you mean adding new rooms to existing dungeons, yeah

[lucid hemlock]

I do want to make some kind of "Expanded" mod

Yeah

More room variations

[lofty canyon]

Untested I think but should work

[mint crescent]

how come I always screw this up. before I had gray background with nothing rendering (opened assetripper project), now I have a black background with STILL nothing rendering in the scene view (download evaisa's template, exported everything from assetripper, copied everything from assetripper but the "Plugins" folder into the unity template, overwritten any files and opened it). I've got no damn clue anymore

[lofty canyon]

For me I had to delete all the hdrp decompiled shaders then install hdrp and go through the hdrp wizard

[mint crescent]

that sounds like fun, let me try that

[lofty canyon]

And reassigning hdrp/lit to every material

[mint crescent]

ah-

[lucid hemlock]

There's not a lot of resources on getting this to work

[glossy peak]

would the inverse teleport work for this mod?

[lucid hemlock]

I mean, guide wise

[echo dune]

in fairness a majority of the people who have done it are probably in this thread haha

[lucid hemlock]

Good

We might come up with something to get over this hurdle

[echo dune]

yessir

[lofty canyon]

Don't see why not

Good idea for me to test it though

[mint crescent]

you, sir, are a life savior

I finally got it to render

[lucid hemlock]

Beautiful

[echo dune]

Jealous

I run the projectcleaner but after I put in the unity path it just closes 😔

Does anything here look wrong to you guys?

[lofty canyon]

All good

[lofty canyon]

Personally I just manually fixed everything, pain in the ass but consistent for me

[echo dune]

What do you have to fix?

[lofty canyon]

Delete all the plugins that are default to unity or are free Unity packages, go into every script and delete everything below and including _initvariables or something, patch up the last few issues then what I mentioned above for rendering

[echo dune]

i see

[lofty canyon]

Oh and installing said packages though the manager

[mint crescent]

Doesn't the template already provide those?

at least some, I believe

[lofty canyon]

Probably, I'm talking about decompiling everything from scratch

[mint crescent]

I've made a quick regex for this, in case anyone ever needs it:

    protected override void __initializeVariables\(\)(.|\n)*return "(.|\n)*";\n    \}

[lofty canyon]

Handy, @echo dune might be for you

[echo dune]

mmmmmmm

at the very least im in scenes

are the missing scripts on certain things the dungen stuff?

[lofty canyon]

Yeah that's just kinda how it is

Usually it's a network object, Unity adds it back automatically, otherwise your guess is as good as mine as to what's actually missing

[mint crescent]

well I just spent an hour doing this, but man am I happy that I finally have a working project now

[echo dune]

What did you do for the various server and clientrpc functions

[fast merlin]

Howy Mowy

[lofty canyon]

so apparently use preset needs to be set to -1 in order to actually use the preset that you assign it

and yeah that controls the light and causes the time to disappear

[upbeat pebble]

Yeah but we don’t have access to the actual package so what we can do with it is limited

Pain of modding

Unless you wanna go spend 70 dollars

[serene spade]

lets just implement WFC

[upbeat pebble]

Black Market dungen copies

[molten hollow]

Oh damm, this looks hella good 👀
Will need to snoop around at some point to figure out how to make something like this, altho my experience with unity is limited to some map mod for ROR2 ages ago

[mint crescent]

Copied the if-stmt: if (<copied this>) {
and global replaced that with false. Do that for all if statements until there are no errors left regarding that. Then remove all of the bufferwriter lines (using a regex for example). It's really tedious work and took me a while.

[abstract echo]

Gaggleland mod when

[polar yoke]

hooh the containment breach memories

[tall jetty]

Wow, this actually looks hella rad! Is there a chance you are gonna make it an actual moon in the future (maybe exit A-styled)?

[golden venture]

wait thats a great idea

enter the elevator as enterance

you can prob even find the layout online for that too

[lofty canyon]

I've floated the idea and the assets are there for it, mainly just wanted to get a dungeon mod out first and foremost

[golden venture]

[lofty canyon]

and I've gotta go help work on ooblterra and their custom dungeons once this is all tidied up for a first release

[polar yoke]

ooblterra numero uno‼️ 🔥 🔥 💯 💯 💯 🔥

[old magnet]

we're all doing cool shit that's what matters

[quartz canopy]

fire

[mint crescent]

Will you open-source this (with an appropiate license) once it's done so others (like me) could learn from it and see how custom dungen can be done? :)

[lofty canyon]

yep, it'll be released under the same license as the original SCP assets (out of legality but also just so others can inspect it)

that is the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 License

[mint crescent]

Oh, sweet! :)

[lofty canyon]

found out how fire exits work and they're the most convoluded thing to exist

at least I know how they work now and it's simple to make but damn fire exits got hands

[serene spade]

Haven't you been disappointed enough already by the way the game handles anything pretty much ?

[mint crescent]

If not, you're in for a treat

[burnt basalt]

raymoo hakreio

[fair axle]

I know this is unrelated but is the game really coded that poorly/convolutedly?

Just curious based on that fire exit response. I heard from someone that everything is kind tied in together in a really weird clumped way that causes other things to break

[serene spade]

https://tenor.com/view/ronald-loud-gif-25808161

i mean, you can get DnSpyEx and see for yourself, Assembly-CSharp.dll is in the game folder

[fair axle]

I've never coded before but I will definitely check it out. I was interested in helping mod for Lethal but everyone says things about it that....Aren't...Encouraging..

[serene spade]

well, we are praying to all gods that Zeekerss might, hopefully, get someone onboard who's an Unity expert

[serene spade]

its not that bad, but its not good either

just the fact that there's a lot of hardcoding (see any player related code, its always if else if else if else, for the 4 players...) and not being generic enough in places, alongside using weird tricks

[fair axle]

Ahh I see. Not very conducive to modding

[serene spade]

even the game itself

have you noticed the horrible lag spikes when AI is "stuck"

or in general, the not so amazing perf

[abstract echo]

Break into his house and force him to make the more moddable

[thorny pewter]

dont think hes interested in this 😭

id love to do anti tamper/RE protection for it 💀

[serene spade]

yeah lmfao

[high crater]

is it gonna have a control room with apparatus

[lofty canyon]

Probably not at least for now, don't have any good ideas on how to integrate it

[lofty canyon]

Posting this here as a little preview thingy

[high crater]

when beta testing

[lofty canyon]

Considering an alpha release this weekend with the basics covered, then I'll come back to it with more complex stuff later on

[fair axle]

Will the map be darkened more than it currently is when testing/development is done?

[lofty canyon]

If you're using the video in the original post as a reference, yeah that was before the lighting stuff was figured out

[fair axle]

Ahhh okay

Apologies

[lofty canyon]

Np, I'll have to upload a new video to show the current state of things

[echo dune]

Are their any major hundles you and/or the community need to deal with for custom moons? (like exterior stuff w/ custom assets and whatnot)

[lofty canyon]

I don't think so, though I don't think anyones tried to do custom dungeon and moon together yet, gonna see how ooblterra goes then come back to SCP for extra polishing

[echo dune]

yeahh

I assume it's just kinda like a scene right? w/ a navmesh bake and all the prefabs and whatnot the offical scenes have

[lofty canyon]

Can't add scenes to the game so some workaround stuff is necessary, some mods that handle that

[echo dune]

You can't? Isn't it just like a asset like any other thing you can bundle?

[lofty canyon]

Nope, network manager forbids it

[echo dune]

oh wack

i guess its just like a bigass prefab thats slide in then?

[lofty canyon]

I think the general flow is deleting everything in an existing scene and putting in all your own stuff

[echo dune]

yeah

Out of curiosity, do you know the specific error/issue the networkmanager gives?

Would love to read up on it

[lofty canyon]

Not really my area of expertise, probably better to ask someone like the lethal expansion Dev

[lofty canyon]

New preview showing off the current state of the mod, after a couple more room variations I think it's in a good enough state to release
https://youtu.be/zVOn6R5FhMc

[echo dune]

yooo

[serene spade]

[golden venture]

wow thats sick

[zinc yew]

That is sooooo coooooooool!!!!! looking forward to a link and hours of messing around in 🙂

[gray glen]

I got lost just watching 😂

[serene spade]

same lmao

what i kinda lack are bigger rooms / puzzles tho

it'd be funny also to put some monsters on display, quite literally

[high crater]

@lofty canyon cant wait to this release

[half bane]

bro

this is insane

[high crater]

make it so u can change it to a specific moon at the config

[abstract echo]

Can you add puzzles to go in certain rooms?

Like a reward room

But u gotta sacrifice 2 other items to get in that room

[serene spade]

I mean, yeah anything is possible with modding

[abstract echo]

True

Somebody should make that

Not me but someone

[serene spade]

thats what everybody says

now get your ass togheter, get Rider, get Blender, get AssetRipper, get Unity, and make a mod

[high crater]

when is it releasing

[vapid peak]

i think it would be really cool if the entrance room was the proper orange striped room, or if there was gate a for main entrance gate b for fire yk

but overall this is so fucking sick nice work

[inland ivy]

we just need the tall white funny shy man mod now

[silk shuttle]

Coming today?

[lofty canyon]

I was planning on having the same LCZ/HCZ/Offices structure from the game, but it would take a lot of fiddling to get the dungeon flow right and would inflate the size of the dungeon even more. Maybe as an expansion it might be cool but for now I'm sticking with the LCZ assets

[molten hollow]

Maybe have them seperate as "options", ie some moons can generate with LCZ, some with HCZ, some with offices

[fast shard]

^ could be good. But thats also triple the work LOL

Either way super super nice! I love it so far :) My only concern is if landmines / items spawn on the unreachable high up walkways in some rooms but thats not really a big one

[abstract echo]

I dont know HOW

[serene spade]

google

[lofty canyon]

There's some intentional item spawns on stuff like the catwalk, the idea being if you want to get them you have to bring a ladder

[high crater]

is it coming today

[polar yoke]

this is horrific why would you ever do this i love it so much

what monsters can spawn in the facility?

noticed that doors glitch through walls when opened though, hope that's fixed

[wooden zealot]

sorry if you've since figured it out but you might try looking at the coomfy dungeon mod for some ideas on map size/gen, they can get pretty big but the branched layout makes it easier to tackle with less grouping. Or just keep it big and reccomend longer nights mod

Also do the doors work as "locked" until opened for monster purposes?

[lofty canyon]

Monster spawns are dictated by moon, so it'll match the spawns for the moon it spawns on (currently set up as an uncommon layout for Titan and very rare for dine/rend), and yeah I've already fixed the door bug since recording that

[polar yoke]

oh yeah forgot its not a unique moon

will spawn chance for the facility be configurable?

would like it to be guaranteed at titan

[bright rover]

This is so badass, I cant wait for it to release.

[lofty canyon]

Can't make it guaranteed without some extra tweaking, but rarity might be an option

[bright rover]

Goodjob Badham.

[silk shuttle]

this mod + coil head 173 mod would go nicely

[polar yoke]

could just set rarity to max 👍

[plush drift]

itd be very nice to have a config for it to be able to show up on specific moons, id love for there to be an uncommon alternate for the basic moons that dont have mansion insides, the mod looks great

[lofty canyon]

Max rarity means it'll be 50/50 (well not exactly but close enough)

[polar yoke]

aw :(

[lofty canyon]

Haven't seen that mod, will take a look

[lofty canyon]

The idea to have each zone as separate dungeons is pretty cool, maybe once I get around to having a custom moon for it the dungeon could be randomly picked from the 3 variants

[bright rover]

You have to make tesla gates if that isn't planned already.

[high crater]

make this music play 2 min before the midnight (with alarms) and make alot of entities spawn and after this music ends it will self destruct

really good concept tho if u tell me

[polar yoke]

nah

[high crater]

it is

would be like a automatic self destruct

because of entities

you can change it at the config if u dont want it to self destruct

to make it hard

what do you think @lofty canyon

[abstract echo]

good pint

point

i'll get back to you

[polar yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nein-nada-non-pelican-gif-18559523

[polar yoke]

anyways. when does this plan to release. it'd be so epic and awesaome if it released today and i got to play it with my epic friends and have epic fun :]

[lofty canyon]

Probably not today but maybe tomorrow (in my timezone)

[polar yoke]

:[

[lofty canyon]

Plan was a weekend release, all I've got left to work on is a weird door bug, some more rooms and testing multiplayer functionality

[fair axle]

Holy crap this is amazing man. Great work

[fast shard]

Also I have no idea if this within the scope of the mod or not but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg3uOmw2jyw
If the layout could pull ambience from CB itself that'd be glorious

I think the sound design of CB is like perfect so having some of the more grounded ones that suggest ur alone play is nice

[lofty canyon]

example of fire exit spawning in place only accessible by ladder (and scrap)

Also I'm getting a friend to remake the fire door asset to be more scp-ey (and so the game asset isn't repackaged)

[fair axle]

Oooo interesting

[echo dune]

It would be fine to repackage the game asset, no?

[fair axle]

Either you ladder out or get stuck looking for the main door

[lofty canyon]

nah I think the owner here had an explicit no repacking assets policy

plus better to not do that anyway

[echo dune]

🤔

[lofty canyon]

also I think I tuned the dungeon generation a bit wrong lol

[lofty canyon]

doors block everything except wound-up jesters

[molten hollow]

Do they block it forever like the code doors on normal maps? (ofc outside of jesters) or like normal doors for few sec.

[lofty canyon]

block forever, so they are more powerful than regular doors in some ways but the jester can power through them and open everything in their path

[quasi scaffold]

Would you add a secure door to make terminal player have something to do?

Also will it compatible with CoomfyDungeon mod and MoreMonsters mod?

And I was wondering the crying sound in the video. Is that SCP-096?

Sorry for many question if you can answer them all I would very appreciate it.

[lofty canyon]

as long as a mod doesn't fiddle with dungeon generation it should be compatible, I think the crying was the mask? and no plants for secure doors at the moment

[silk shuttle]

Idk if this has been asked before but is it possible to get the SCP CB ambience music while inside ?

[edgy patrol]

Just wanted to pop in and tell you that this looks amazing and I have a ton of respect for you for making a mod like this. I'm glad that new dungeons are being created -- as it's the most lacking part of Lethal Company right now imo

[lofty canyon]

there was a request a bit earlier about it, I don't think it's really possible unfortunately without a hacky solution since right now there's no ambience or anything to override

on a separate note though, a friend helped make a custom fire escape exit, which looks like this and will take the place of the appearance of other fire exits

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185107081045487686/1185172216250388490/image.png?ex=658ea4a3&is=657c2fa3&hm=82545e74f83f1518932b29340d117960b50761027e8af51282d377bc2f9beda4&

[lofty canyon]

ingame appearance

[golden venture]

damn this is nice

[high crater]

@lofty canyon

what do you think

[lofty canyon]

prob not gonna implement that, would require a lot of changes to how enemies spawn and stuff

[high crater]

hm ok

[high crater]

is it gonna release today

[lofty canyon]

will see how it goes, need to do a multiplayer test and some other tweaks but otherwise t's mostly done

[high crater]

well

you can do a release then ill get some friends to use the mod

and if it dont work ill let u know

[zinc yew]

Let me know if you need any help testing wink wink

[polar yoke]

id be willing to help test

[high crater]

same

[abstract echo]

I volunteer

Please i have aids

[polar yoke]

this mod'd probably go good with a mod that lets you edit specific moon spawns but unfortunately that doesnt seem to exist

[mint crescent]

specific moon spawns
you mean enemy spawn rates? Brutal Company Plus does that too.

[polar yoke]

if you mean enemy spawns everywhere then no, and i also dont want everything else that brutal company comes with like thousands of landmines

[brisk parrot]

Fyi there’s a config option for it now in BCP

[polar yoke]

still, having the entire mod to edit the spawns of one moon seems like a waste

[mint crescent]

fair enough

[marsh meadow]

I'm already excited for the moment my friends and I pop in here, and they question which one is the mimic lmao

[polar yoke]

hope it releases today

[burnt basalt]

hope it releases in the next few minutes

[polar yoke]

hope it releases right now

[burnt basalt]

hope it releases 2 days ago

[sour trellis]

Pretty cool mod, does it function so far?

[plain apex]

think we're getting it today?

[burnt basalt]

holy shit I was not expecting SCP-076-2 amazing mod!!!!

[sour trellis]

Sick. I would love to try this map out.

[bright rover]

Wait what?

Seriously?!?!!

Is that going to be included??

[burnt basalt]

i'm jk

[bright rover]

im going to kill you

[polar yoke]

hm, i think nutcrackers, coilheads, masked and brackens should be able to open the doors.

[bright rover]

They aren't able to already?

[polar yoke]

dev said only enraged jester can open the facility doors right now

[bright rover]

aww

I feel like the apparatus being pulled should do somethin special on this tbh

[lofty canyon]

might throw in a few extra enemies that can open doors normally

jesters barge the doors opening them near instantly

[bright rover]

Definitely should do everything he said, I think everything else shouldn't be able to for obvious reasons.

And I'm just curious myself here, do you plan on doing more to the mod after release? I.e. tesla gates, 914, apparatus stuff, elevators, and more? Hell maybe even keycards could be added. There's so many things you could expand this mod with.

[lofty canyon]

currently trying to get the networking fixed, then there's an issue with the main entrance doors I need to figure out, but then it should be ready for release after that

[polar yoke]

that makes sense

[polar yoke]

bcp doesn't even have a config for specific moon spawns

[echo dune]

Whats with the doors right now? I remember the previous convo with the lighting toggling and such

[lofty canyon]

figured out the issue with the doors, now I'm just trying to figure out why it won't network, and why enemies aren't opening the doors they're supposed to

[glossy ruin]

@lofty canyon You think its gonna be out tonight?

[lofty canyon]

still trying to figure out some networking issues, unsure

[glossy ruin]

@thin plover Can possibly help he is goated in modding

[fast shard]

Yeah, was the one thought I had that more should def open them like coilheads (ala 173) and masked (brackens too really)

I think its funny, you could probably reskin a lot of lethal mobs as scps most of which are already in CB

Masked > 035
Coilhead > 173
Thumper > 939
Bracken > 106 (or 096 i guess?)

[polar yoke]

what are the issues currently?

[lofty canyon]

currently:

• Entrance door teleporters(both fire exit and main) aren't being replicated across the network
• SCP doors aren't opening for enemies (and is probably also broken networking-wise)

[polar yoke]

hm, dang. also, will the mod come with a way to be guaranteed? or will that possibly be added later?

[lofty canyon]

maybe later, making it guaranteed involves fiddling with the dungeon stuff beyond just appending the dungeon flow as an option to the array

[polar yoke]

i imagine it atleast wouldn't be too hard though, im not sure how much spaghetti code lc has but it'd probably be something like overriding the chance of all other dungeon options in the array to zero

[lofty canyon]

I've done it for singleplayer contexts before, didn't test in MP and right now I'm still trying to figure out the door issues to have release ready in the first place

[polar yoke]

👍

[brisk parrot]

Does the facility still have an apparatus room?

[lofty canyon]

not at the moment

[lofty canyon]

tested some stuff and seemingly the generation function doesn't do bounds checking, so while I can't really make it truly guaranteed I can probably add a setting to make the chance so high it's practically guaranteed

also sorted out entrance door teleporters, all that's left is the room-to-room door and then it's release ready (at least close enough)

[gray sorrel]

im excited to play it, been tryin to lurk and watch to see how it all goes =]

[bright rover]

I feel like if anything, the bracken would be SCP-303.

[high crater]

what do you expect from a roblox dev

[autumn temple]

someone should make an scp 096 mod

for the jester

[polar yoke]

make both the other dungeons so common that they integer overflow into being negative rarity, simple!

[lofty canyon]

took way too long to figure out but I think I've finally fixed everything

[plain apex]

oh shiiiiit

[lofty canyon]

just gonna do some quick playtests with a friend to make sure everything's good and then I'll publish it, I'd say expect a release sometime today

[plain apex]

can't wait!

[echo dune]

very excited to see it. open source from the jump or nah

[lofty canyon]

very soon after if not at the same time

[lofty canyon]

still a handful of minor bugs to work out but overall functional, have a preview video in the meantime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcwj_tg_czM

[polar yoke]

upside down sign, my favorite

[echo dune]

This is looking so well done man

[polar yoke]

i don't know if you could do it, but some way to seperate players would be evil and horrible and amazing because this looks so much worse alone

enemies spawning in the roof seems like a bit more than a minor bug, but eh

[echo dune]

You mention Occlusion not working, Does DunGen handle that?

Are some of the Tiles a lower height than the ones in the basegame? Looks a little bit cramped in some areas

Oh no, did someone beat you to the first new dungeon mod at the last second?
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Backrooms/Backrooms/

[lofty canyon]

I think I saw this earlier in moddev, it's just a thing where falling in the pit room sends you there to escape?

[lofty canyon]

height in LC isn't exactly the same as it is in cb so scale is slightly off, but keeping it at the current scale is much better for alignment reasons

[lofty canyon]

eh it's one of those things in programming where the difficulty is inverse to how complicated it sounds

enemies spawning in the ceiling is probably just some misplaced vents, but opening a door is a multi-day endeavour

[golden venture]

this map not having a custom moon sounds so messed up to me

[autumn temple]

which moon would this replace?

[golden venture]

this is art

someone give him a nice moon

[echo dune]

Fair. definitely wouldn't be a priority but in theory it shouldn't be too bad to modify the tileset to allign with the dimensions of the basegame tiles without direct scaling

[lofty canyon]

holding off on custom moon for now just for simplicity, might revisit and make a custom moon with the Site 17 outsides after ooblterra

[echo dune]

It actually might be an interesting excuse to get DunGen <-> Custom Moon Compatability going between different mods using this dungeon and my custom moons?

[autumn temple]

which moon

does this repalce

titan?

[lofty canyon]

the foundation spawns on Titan, by default it's going to be uncommon (~33% chance of spawning instead of facility or manor)

[echo dune]

this dungeon definitely fits the vibe of the moon i was working on yesterday in #1184848349619310652

[golden venture]

yeah you made very pretty moons with nice terrain

vouch

[echo dune]

#thunderstore-releases 👀

[polar yoke]

YIPPEE!

[lofty canyon]

ssshhhush

[polar yoke]

oh hey, it's two mods away from being the 5000th mod on the thunderstore it seems

[lofty canyon]

(header link for ease of access: https://ptb.discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1183889212978778173)

Mod has officially been released in 1.0.1, there's probably bugs but everything obvious from a few run throughs seems to be sorted out. The unity package for information on how to make custom dungeons has also been uploaded to the github.

SCP: Facility (custom dungeon mod) [1.0.1]

@here for all the people following this thread

oh I can't do that nvm lol

[tall jetty]

the modpack right above it 😭

[polar yoke]

i enter the facility and immediately whimper this is a crime against god

why is FoundationGuaranteed only recommended for debugging/sightseeing?

[lofty canyon]

just cuz having it always set would make it boring, nothing technically wrong with having it set

[polar yoke]

ah. i have it guaranteed for titan because titan felt a bit odd being a normal bunker with all the paid planets.

one thing i must say though
good lort the level generation. it's just basically a twisty line. it does generate a fire exit at the end usually thankfully, but it doesn't all the time and sometimes it's on a damn catwalk after walking through three rends worth of grey halls. titan's 2.25x level size really does not help it.

[lofty canyon]

yeah level gen is something I've still gotta tweak more, it's a lot of arbitrary numbers, will tweak over time and might remove the catwalk fire exit if it proves annoying

I'll probably also remove the off-axis doors since it makes it way less likely to create loops and connections

[polar yoke]

catwalk fire exit is unique, i'd say keep it. doesn't complement a moon with one fire exit well, but if level gen is improved to be more compressed then it'd probably be fine

[echo dune]

Where is the unity package you mentioned? Wasn't able to find it on the github

[lofty canyon]

o forgot to push the commit, doing now

[feral flame]

alot of enemies seem to spawn inside walls

[lofty canyon]

which room?

[feral flame]

ill clip it gimme a sec

had an incident earlier where a nutcracker spawned inside some stairs which i dont have a clip of

[feral flame]

these stairs

other than that this mod is awesome

[lofty canyon]

ah makes sense, those stairs are a bit of a pain, I'll try and patch it up alongside a generation improvement for 1.1.0

[feral flame]

im also noticing a bit of an fps drop sometimes

could be something else though

or this

[lofty canyon]

seems like some of the larger enemies get spawned too close to the wall at vents and end up walking backwards into it getting them stuck

[feral flame]

another issue is turrets got their ammo upgraded and can now shoot through walls

[cold scaffold]

armor piercing turrets:

[feral flame]

pretty funny tho

[lofty canyon]

ah think I figured out why the turrets have AP rounds

forgot to setup the layers on some of the rooms so they don't percieve them

[feral flame]

also ive found some doors cause enemies to forget you exist

[lofty canyon]

like going through them makes them stop chasing you or something?

[feral flame]

yea

[lofty canyon]

might be a similar issue with the tagging, a lot of stuff relies on that

[lofty canyon]

yeah that elec room didn't have the layer properly set hence why turrets don't see it and presumably enemies don't know how to get through it

[polar yoke]

that's something presumably quite important to fix

[lofty canyon]

yeah getting an update for it ready now, should cover these

[burnt basalt]

Hmm, I had a glitch where only host could enter the facility, my friends just ended up falling infinitely

We set spawn rate to 300, all moons, guaranteed appearance

But we also had some other mods in

[gray sorrel]

Mom told them to leave you alone lmfao

[polar yoke]

what other mods?

[lofty canyon]

any mods that patch RoundManager.GenerateNewFloor might have conflicts

[burnt basalt]

Here is my code if you wanna see my modlist: 018c76e3-bc73-4528-acf8-00113c3087df

[lofty canyon]

alright I've pushed update 1.1.1, which should address at least some of the issues you've raised, when thunderstore gets around to updating it on the page can you give it another runaround to see?

[feral flame]

will do

[lofty canyon]

is this a thunderstore modpack id or something? could I get just a screenshot or something like that for reference

[burnt basalt]

nah, it's r2modmanager code

[lofty canyon]

to my knowledge none of those mess with the round manager, is everyone getting the load message in the console on launch for the SCP mod?

[burnt basalt]

Ah idk, we stopped for tonight because it's late

[azure nymph]

another issue about ap turret in 1.1.1

[marsh meadow]

AP turret is hilarious

[mint crescent]

@granite lion is there a chance you could pin the top post? :)

[mint crescent]

Thank you :)

[granite lion]

"please" never hurt tho hehe :3

(ya welcome, hehe)

[upbeat loom]

SCP SCP SCP SCP!

This looks dope!!!!!!!!!!!

[floral stirrup]

how to fix it?

and i can't go to scp too

[serene spade]

i'd have a look at the source, feels like a genuine bug for the mod, does the mod have a separate room for the main entrance, that is guaranteed to be placed, or does it consider the entrances as an aftereffect ? because if so, that looks like a case for this

[serene spade]

one important thing, do you have the seed ?

One very good thing the mod could do is list the moon seed, that'd help debugging

if the game doesn't do so already

[floral stirrup]

how to find the seed?

[serene spade]

check the logs, its what shows up when you land on a moon, but if its gone, thats alright, unless you remember it

[floral stirrup]

oh ok

[serene spade]

its what the dungeon generation will be based off of mathematically, so having the same seed ensures reproduceability, which well, would help in debugging as we could get bugged moons on demand

[floral stirrup]

here

after reset to new seed the problem still here

[honest gulch]

the config isnt synched across all players, causing players to fall infinitely in the void

[boreal charm]

getting these weird squares whenever i shine the flashlight in a certain direction

seems like its not just the squares but lighting is usually a little buggy in one direction on most generations of the map

this rocks for what is essentially the first custom dungeon in the modding scene though

i feel like default map size should be scaled down a bit though, its very easy to get lost and the facilities themselves are huge making it hard to find any scrap. i usually go in and walk until i find the next fire exit and end up coming out around 8-9pm

door sounds are also a bit loud and harsh on the ears. mimics compatibility should probably be looked into in the future, the custom fire exits makes it very easy to tell which ones are fake

thats about everything i found while doing a few solo runs on it

[queen mica]

oh my god this is sick

[livid dune]

How does the spawn weight affect the spawn chances?

Want it as a rare possibility on all moons at like idk 20-25% ish?

scale in config is 0-300 though so

[polar yoke]

spawn weights of all the possible dungeons are added up and made into chances, regular bunker weight is usually 300 so you might want the scp facility spawn weight to be 150, because 300 spawn weight would usually be about 50% chance

[livid dune]

gotcha

[polar yoke]

nutcracker doesn't seem capable of entering the intercom room, or atleast the stairwell leading up to it. was just wiggling at the door, didn't chase me in when aggroed. also clipped through the door behind it somehow.

[polar yoke]

another problem i found. the facility seems to sometimes just. not have a fire exit. gives a prompt when trying to enter through the fire exit that "The door was blocked."

[fresh island]

hey i really really like this mod- could we get a way in the configs to swap the door button use symbol back from the scp one to the LC one?

dont get me wrong, i love the work put into it. i just like me my uniformity too.

[fresh island]

im actually unsure if thats a problem or intentional either. if its inentional, a config could fix that.

[lofty canyon]

There's a bunch of things that were done to avoid having any base game assets included in the package (made literally right before zeekers gave the all-clear on sharing assets in mods with attrib.) such as swapping in necessary assets at runtime based on dummy assets, so there's probably some issues there I can resolve through switching those back

[lofty canyon]

^ similar problem I'm pretty sure, gonna work through moving some stuff back to vanilla assets where applicable

also the scrap spawning system I seem to have completely misinterpreted on how it actually functions, gonna have to do another run through each room to fix up how scrap spawning works

[polar yoke]

oh yeah, that's something i noticed, the facility had basically no scrap. i only found like three things on catwalks

[edgy patrol]

Hi, I just wanted to report that multiple people I was playing with got killed by a turret that was in the wall

[fresh island]

vanilla game does that too. its rough.

[edgy patrol]

Yeah, but it got us THROUGH walls as well, which I haven't encountered yet in the base game, so idk

[fresh island]

hm. yeah thats not normal lol

[edgy patrol]

It's like it was spawned out-of-bounds and it could shoot through walls, maybe that's more accurate

[fresh island]

wack

[lofty canyon]

yeah the navmesh generator seems to not particularly care whether a part of ground is accessible or not so I'm gonna have to trim down the rooms to have zero excess space

[polar yoke]

if someone does make a custom moon for the facility, i sure hope it'll have multiple fire exits

[noble dagger]

yeah we just need dungeons, screw moons lol

[polar yoke]

eh. i'd be willing to make a custom moon if i found a model of containment breach's surface

[lofty canyon]

with how incredibly complicated the dungeon gen stuff is I'm not really surprised people haven't tried tackling it

[noble dagger]

yeah i couldnt imagine

props to all the modders!

for everything really

[lofty canyon]

all the SCP:CB assets are open source (hence why I'm using them), after sorting out the bugs and helping ooblterra out with their custom dungeons I was gonna make the site entrance a custom exterior

[polar yoke]

i messed with the spawnrates and it's not going well

yeah, seems the main problem with the mod right now is things spawning in/clipping through walls

[lofty canyon]

trimming down all the floor plans now so nav doesn't spawn there, dealing with the incredibly scuffed CBRE tool

[polar yoke]

oh? do you know where i could find the assets?

[lofty canyon]

https://undertowgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8080

[polar yoke]

i don't think .3dw files can be opened by unity, hm

[lofty canyon]

yep welcome to the file conversion gauntlet

[polar yoke]

so, how did you get these usable in unity?

[lofty canyon]

cbre-ex to open 3dw file, then that has an export option to fbx

also the coordinates get flipped along the x axis for some reason so every asset is flipped like 2tsud_ed

[polar yoke]

rather large problem i've found, lack of textures and maybe also collision but i dont know about that one

[lofty canyon]

You have to configure CBRE to point to the texture folders

[polar yoke]

not sure where the texture folders are

[lofty canyon]

Should be linked at that page I sent

[polar yoke]

doesn't have gate b :(

[livid dune]

Are the spawn rates of this map low? we are getting like maybe 1 guy spawning each time we get it

and basically no loot either

[lofty canyon]

Yeah the spawn setup wasn't set quite right, working on improving it in next version

[woeful crow]

thx u sir for the mod xoxo

[sudden thistle]

W mod but when playing with friends we've noticed... a lot of bugs with AI, I assume this is known already

[lofty canyon]

Yeah now zeekers gave the ok it'll be switched back, I just needed something to ensure no asset reuse prior to that

[lofty canyon]

Yeah hashing them out after work

[lofty canyon]

Mimic Dev is welcome to use the custom assets if they want to add compatibility, it's a bit out of my control

[polar yoke]

honestly, i'd like a setting to keep the custom assets. i think they're pretty cool

[boreal nymph]

Noticed the doors arent solid to turrets

Just got detected and mowed down through one hahaha

[terse plank]

me and my friends entered and half of them got desynced into a mansion layout

[noble dagger]

do clients need my config?

or does it sync with the host?

[lofty canyon]

Probably best to have it manually synced, in theory it shouldn't matter but there's a lot that's uncertain about how dungeon stuff is synced

[noble dagger]

ok ty

[charred depot]

i havent extensively played the map yet, but from following along your progress updates i understand there should be a custom fire exit model. when using the Mimics mod it spawns mimic fire exits with the standard model; is there anyway to change it or is that a hard incompatibility issue that would require a custom patch

[boreal charm]

.

[charred depot]

lmao barely missed it

my b

[echo dune]

there will probably need to be some standerdized custom preset system for stuff like that

[charred depot]

have you by chance reached out to the mimics dev about it?

[boreal charm]

no, you're free to do so if you'd like. they have a thread in this server too

[molten hollow]

can somewhat confirm that, as we run with lategameupgrades better scanner that requires no LOS, we had total of 7 items on the map with 4 of them being inaccessible (on experimentation) generally also seemed to be low as we had also double scrap amount and experimentation on regular had usually ~20

[lofty canyon]

There's also an issue with the scrap generator I've got to figure out, misinterpreted how it works so I need to fix that up too

[molten hollow]

Great mod tho, love having the SCP dungeon :D

[little fiber]

Sorry if this was said already, but im not sure if it's this mod or another, but dungeon generation for normal/vanilla interiors are generating the same layout

[lofty canyon]

This mod doesn't modify anything around the seed generation so it's likely something else; can post a mod list to check though

[charred depot]

lootbugs cannot get through open doors

[thick goblet]

Meanwhile Turrets can shoot through closed doors

[crimson bolt]

wait this mod isn't it's own moon?

[crimson bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1109214684172791888/1145928945317970001/gif.gif

[tall jetty]

the only time I decided to change it for host only all my teammates fell through the map

[honest gulch]

everybody needs to have the same config

when we played with friends and they didnt have scp enable on non paid planet, they just fell through the ground

[noble dagger]

Same lol I did it as a quick fix to restart the lobby back up haha. It was all messed up

[young oxide]

i got the same thing and tried deleteing scp and still got the problem

[median fjord]

Is this only light containment at the moment?

[fast shard]

Yeah

[median fjord]

sweet

[sturdy oracle]

I dont know if i got unlucky but when i play earlier with some friends, there was almost no loot around the map and we only found 2 monsters, we played until the midnight in game because we were so deep in the dungeon and ended up taking too much time to the to the exit door

[magic plinth]

Are there tesla gates in this?

[polar yoke]

lack of loot is being fixed hopefully

[median fjord]

seems like teleport pads place you outside of the map with lethal things lol, not fixable but thought it was funny

[lofty canyon]

'Ello all, I've been working on a v1.2.0 which is aiming to fix a lot of the stand-out issues (dungeons too 1-way, scrap spawns being low, fixes for AI, inverse teleing into walls, etc) along with some other stuff e.g. addition of 173's chamber. I'll put it here in pre-release tonight after work <t:1702969200:R>, and if there's nothing major wrong with it I'll put that up as the definitive version until next year.

[fast shard]

👍 Thank you for your hard work! Excited to check it out soon :)

[charred depot]

Rad

[polar yoke]

maybe a breaker box spawn could be added?

[tall jetty]

hoping for config sync

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/979397421668921394.webp?size=48&name=prayge&quality=lossless

[lofty canyon]

I'll look into how mimics did it to see if I can figure that out

[delicate linden]

Any chance for compatibility with custom moons?

[lofty canyon]

If it integrates with lethal lib, maybe?

[polar yoke]

i don't think lethal lib will get custom moon capabilities till ooblterra is done

[delicate linden]

Lethal Expansion SDK is what everyone is using currently

[lofty canyon]

Can't really speak to integration then, really depends how it handles choosing the manor or facility

If it lets you pick a dungeon flow manually it should be possible to integrate

[vivid schooner]

this is sick, fantastic work!
I would definitely like to see an option to set it to specific moons in the future (Dine specifically, since I tend to avoid that regularly)

[polar yoke]

it just uses an id system

[lofty canyon]

If the IDs match the game managers flow array then in theory you should be able to just use the ID that's assigned to the flow array there, though guaranteeing it's the right dungeon if/when new dungeon mods are introduced might be difficult

[rare sand]

Is there anything else that the mod needs to work properly? Cause I've been trying to use it and it doesn't seem to be working nor does the config file appear.

[old magnet]

LethalLib, BepInEx, and MMHookPatcher

check the thunderstore dependency for the first, and then check the LethalLib mod's dependency list for the other two

[rare sand]

sure, thanks!

[lofty canyon]

Thunderstore/r2 handle recursive dependencies but I probably should add the llib dependencies just for clarity tbh

[plain python]

This sounds cool as hell

[delicate linden]

Seems that SCP resets its config and is always being set as the dungeon

[lofty canyon]

Alright, here's a pre-release of 1.2.0, which should address all the things outlined above and have the new rooms. Let me know if anything sticks out as game-breakingly wrong.

if there's no major issues I'll update the thunderstore page version later to this

(also you do need to have lethallib & relevant dependencies to use it, obv)

[feral flame]

aight

[molten scaffold]

this is normal?

[echo dune]

@lofty canyon make sure to enable read write access on the meshes, its a bool on the asset itself ^

[lofty canyon]

oup yeah must have forgotten to do that for 173s chamber

[feral flame]

some floors are not solid on the test build

also some of the walls in the room dont have collision either

[molten scaffold]

Items are also difficult to find, even though there were 35 items scanned.
when I explored it only found 1 but it didn't work when I scanned (right click) it needed to be taken first before it could be scanned

[lofty canyon]

alright hotfix to resolve that room issue, should have collision now

[feral flame]

slight texture glitch in the room now but its alright

enemies struggle to get inside the new 173 room

[feral flame]

brackens will go into their angered / fleeing state by being looked at through doors

coilheads still struggle to identify enemies in different rooms

items spawns are still pretty rough

[lofty canyon]

Seems like I'm missing something when it comes to door collision but I'm not sure what

[echo dune]

navmeshobstacle stuff maybe?

that stuff can be finnicky

[lofty canyon]

Yeah I've got the nav blocker and it seems to usually work

[echo dune]

nav blocker?

[lofty canyon]

Nav mesh obstacle thingy

[echo dune]

ahh good good

[lofty canyon]

Given turrets shoot through the door and brackens react to sight through it it seems like a collider problem

But the tags all seem to line up and the doors have colliders

[echo dune]

do we know the script thatso n the doors thats missing?

[lofty canyon]

Presumably synced object spawner

[echo dune]

ah ok

and you've looked into the Blocker objects?

sorry just throwing shots at you incase any land

[polar yoke]

maybe try and see how regular doors do it?

[echo dune]

@lofty canyon youve looked through all the doorlock code ye?

bunch of stuff that messes with the navobst settings

[lofty canyon]

Yeah, the nav carving is just so enemies route around locked doors

[echo dune]

public int collidersAndRoomMaskAndDefault = 2305; gets used a ton for that kinda stuff

[polar yoke]

generation has definitely been improved a ton, here's a new and old facility with 3x dungeon size

[echo dune]

big w

[polar yoke]

it does look alot more connected than it actually is though, some of the big crossroad rooms have doors blocked off with gates

for a first expedition, i wandered around, got 3 scrap, took a teleporter trap from hit mod lethal things, landed in 173's chamber, wandered a bit more, got killed by a turret through a door

[fiery radish]

Still on the live public version but me and my friends had a very odd experience, I was noticing loot spawning outside of reachable areas, like in the locked bathroom stalls of the bathroom or behind walls, as for loot composition we were testing it on March where roughly each run's terminal scan and score showed a total of about 250, most of the loot was just stop signs

I'm not sure if there is any conflicts with CoomfyDungeon as we were also testing that, love the vibe and atmosphere, did see a couple monsters struggle to pathfind through rooms, oh and there was quite a large number of turrets out of bounds pointing inwards

[lofty canyon]

I severely underestimated how much this game relies on just finding flat surfaces to put stuff on, which the models extracted from SCPCB are full of out of bounds, I trimmed them all down on 1.2.0 above so it should help with that

[echo dune]

what script is it doing that in? curious to see it

[lofty canyon]

Not sure on exact script but scrap spawning checks a sphere around each spawn point for a random nav mesh position, hazard spawning is the same

[magic plinth]

Does this have tesla gates?

[polar yoke]

nah

not yet atleast

[quartz canopy]

This mod is released?

It doesnt say wip

[lofty canyon]

Yeah it's up, I've got an update to fix a couple things coming soon

Also a prerelease version of that update available above

[fiery radish]

Ahhh that would explain some of the wonky things in the base game like loot spawning at the bottom of pits/top of the cabinet loot room or turrets spawning inside bookshelves, doors or pipes. Still early days for tileset and moon modding, but you're doing a brilliant job!

[sour trellis]

I've had loot spawn on the scaffolding next to the death pits in those long rooms full of all the pipes and wooden pallets, you could only grab it using an extension ladder to walk out on top of the pit.

[polar yoke]

ive seen that happen. i scanned, said "ooh loot" then got played like a fiddle

[magic plinth]

Darn. I REALLY hope it gets them. They would make a perfect replacement for gap rooms and stuff, as that hazard room in most layouts

[plain apex]

When do you think that update might drop?

[lofty canyon]

might just release 1.2.0 as-is since it fixes a lot of the major stuff, I wanted to figure out the doors but I just can't see what's different between mine and the base games' doors

[turbid wave]

dear god people are already figuring out different dungen styles / layouts / whatever you call it

[lofty canyon]

I'd like to add them at some point later, just haven't worked out networking for that kind of stuff yet, plus crunch both at work and on ooblterra right now

[marsh meadow]

Is the new update going to fix scrap generation?

[lofty canyon]

Pretty much, plus some other stuff

[sour trellis]

I am very excited to try this one out once it's functional

[bright rover]

Whats the chances of this spawning because it has taken forever for it to spawn, been playing around 4-5 hours now with the mod and I haven't experienced it once. I have all of the dependencies and don't have anything that'd mess with it.

[old magnet]

dunno why you replied to me but im pretty sure its a very low chance on Titan by default

you can adjust it in the config I think?

[bright rover]

Sorry, I'm real tired right now and I didn't notice you weren't Badham.

[old magnet]

no worries

but anyway yeah try just editing the config

[bright rover]

Thank you.

[lofty canyon]

There's an option to have it be guaranteed to appear, just mind the configuration must be the same for all players

Also only on Titan by default, can be set to all or paid moons as well

[bright rover]

Thank you!!

[quartz canopy]

is this in thunderstore

[fresh island]

so.. it seems like coil heads cant get through doors?

[lofty canyon]

Coil heads struggle with doors in general, it's kinda just how they are

[fresh island]

oof

yeah we watched one run around like an idiot for a minute straight, unable to get through. havent seen behavior that bad before so i thought to say smthn

[lofty canyon]

I'm using basically all the same scripts the base game uses for its' doors, they should be about as competent at opening the SCP doors as the base game doors (which given a generally effective strategy to deal with them is to close doors on them, seems to line up)

[fresh island]

they can open the doors, it seems to be a problem specifically abt walking thru open ones.

a few friends and i were taking turns going into a hallway and getting it to move to see if it could even get thru the door. it just wouldnt go through :/

[lofty canyon]

Is it a specific room that it's failing to get into? There was an issue in an earlier version with nav meshes not generating in some rooms

*and was it specific to coil heads for that door

[fresh island]

We were in a hallway, and it couldnt get into the one room with the glass walls and a staircase.

Idk if it was specific to coil heads tho, bc also a TON of the enemies seemed to spawn outside the map still :/

It was one of the few we'd seen.

[lofty canyon]

Is this in the 1.2.0 pre release?

[fresh island]

Its the one currently downloadable through thunderstore

[lofty canyon]

Ah, there might be some bugs especially with enemy spawns in the current live version

Hoping to get 1.2.0 up soon

[fresh island]

Ahh

Ye

I noticed that turrets still spawn inside of walls, too. Its probs the same thing as the enemy spawns. I remember something about the flat surfaces being trimmed down, so i assume theres just a lot of them in general.

The items seem to be fine tho, at least i think. If you configure it to be on earlier moons, its very hard to find them, but we still were finding them. Thats most likely just dungeon size tho, so we just turned it to paid moons.

[lofty canyon]

There was an issue with scrap spawns and hazard spawns because of how it handles the spawn nodes, but it should be better or fixed in 1.2.0

[fresh island]

Yea

[lofty canyon]

Also dungeon generation should be better too with less straight lines and more loops

[fresh island]

Its def better, the both of those

It still seems to happen tho lol

[lofty canyon]

There's a lot of weirdness in general so dunno if it'll ever be perfect but hopefully it'll be more in line at least

Also as far as I'm aware there's no way to debug nav mesh stuff in-game which makes testing issues way more difficult

[echo dune]

what do you need to debug

[lofty canyon]

Like a nav mesh visualiser or something would be pretty handy in finding problems

[hushed quest]

so is there less scrap spawn in the scp dungeon in 1.1.1?

[hushed quest]

also when is 1.20 releasing on thunder?

[lofty canyon]

right now :)

(when thunderstore refreshes, that is)

1.2.0

• Added new rooms (173 Chamber, 3-way connector)
• Added open doorways for room connectors
• Improved room meshes to help prevent enemies/scrap spawning OOB and improve navigation
• Increased lighting brightness across all rooms
• Modified dungeon generation to (hopefully) produce more winding paths and interesting dungeons
• Removed fire escapes from catwalk in 4-way room

(i forgot to list those last 2 in the changelog on thunder whoops)

well it's an update to the existing item plus confirmed here as a legitimate update

[brisk parrot]

Any chance we’ll get an scp styled apparatus room in the future?

[lofty canyon]

not impossible, might add at a later date

[cosmic prairie]

Nah this is malware, I launched it and now I'm laying here on this metal table with this weird machine on my femur

On a serious note: cool fuckin' update though

Ngl though having a femur breaker room where you can sacrifice a player for some justified reason 🤔

[tall jetty]

i wouldn't even need a reason tbh

[hushed quest]

it would be fun if there was something to sacrifice multiple people to get an item like sacrifice 2 people giving a vile of 106 gloop worth 180 while also increasing spawnrates of enemies in the facility

that or actually coding 106 as a real entity and having that as a feature to get rid of 106

[cosmic prairie]

Same

[golden venture]

is the layout randomized or is it a set seed ?

and how playable is this map now ?

[tall jetty]

10 objects with total value of 900 on rend 😢

[polar yoke]

can confirm there's alot more loot now in the new version

[tall jetty]

was there a patch after 1.2.0?

i could tell just by using scan command if the dungeon is scp or not

[polar yoke]

snare fleas are the worst thing ever to encounter in the big rooms. can't hit em off the ceiling since it's too high. can't walk around em since the anomalies surrounding the facility seem to give them enough brain power to sit right above doors. just death

[cosmic prairie]

Just get near them so they fall to the ground and beat them to death

[inland ivy]

^

even if it falls on you, you can just blindly re-pick up shovel and hit em off

I hate soloing thumper more but at least v47 makes it more consistent (same for taking damage too tho )

[fresh island]

bro its an update to a verified mod

its not a new upload

[quasi scaffold]

Monster stuck

[fresh island]

Kiss him

He looks lonely over there

[quasi scaffold]

And I saw a red rope guy, what is that? it won't hurt me but keep make my sanity drop

[fresh island]

Do you have brutal company on?

Its a brutal company event.

[quasi scaffold]

lonely~dear lonely~

[quasi scaffold]

No

[fresh island]

Huh

Any mods that add events/monster spawns?

Bc its an unused enemy in the game

[quasi scaffold]

skidibi

and more monster

that's all

[fresh island]

:/ weird

Check the config of more monsters

[fresh island]

Bc that ramps the spawns

[quasi scaffold]

or maybe I place this file to the wrong place?

[fresh island]

Ive nit used it tho

Those are all your dlls, wheres your config files tho

[quasi scaffold]

There

[quasi scaffold]

Never seen this monster before I install SCPdungeon

[fresh island]

It shouldnt be from that

Wack no idea

Yeah that monstey shouldnt be spawning

Its a completely unused enemy

[quasi scaffold]

Well that's really weird, it won't hurt me just push me and makes the girl come to play with me earlier

[fresh island]

Yeah

Thats bc all monsters give paranoia, and LG picks targets based on paranoia

Its just applying the paranoia. Its all it can do rn

I kinda wish it'd be implemented fully

[quasi scaffold]

Yeah I know, I thought it was Dullers from backrooms, but soon I realized I don't even install backrooms mod.

[fresh island]

Hm

[quasi scaffold]

Ah found it

https://lethal-company.fandom.com/wiki/Lasso_Man

It's this guy

[fresh island]

Mhm

I wish he like.. slowed you and after a while killed you, but for now he seems to just be there

[quasi scaffold]

I just want it...

nevermind.

Lasso Man huh, I think it will use its rope to chock you?

[winged vortex]

As someone newer to modding this game I was wondering, how much of the battle in making a dungeon mod is actually making the dungeon? Or in other words, how difficult is it to patch in a new dungeon type once its made in Dungen

[lofty canyon]

a little tedious but in terms of making all the prefabs and whatnot it's relatively simple, the hardest part is trying to wrap around all the oddities of how dungen is implemented

[winged vortex]

I’ll definitely keep at it, I’m in the very early stages of an abandoned Company prison in Dungen but there’s a lot to learn! I’ve done random generation with other softwares but it was a lot less room based

Love what you’ve done with this mod, trying to do something similar definitely makes me appreciate it more lol, keep up the good work :)

[lofty canyon]

as a mod/dungeon for LC? If you need a hand I can help you out with any q's you have with it

[wicked idol]

is this mod stable

its the only map mod that exists

[lofty canyon]

more or less

[wicked idol]

i see videos of people clippin through walls falling through floors and turrents shooting through walls

[lofty canyon]

a few bugs but afaik nothing game-breaking as long as the configs are matched

[lofty canyon]

a lot of those should be resolved in the 1.2.0 update that came out yesterday

only major issue I know of is turrets/enemies see through and can attack through doors, still trying to figure that one out

[wicked idol]

okie

[cold scaffold]

The SCP Foundation installed AP rounds on their turrets

[hallow mirage]

Awesome

[cosmic prairie]

Couldn't have been a more perfect placement

[inland ivy]

jesus whys it cost 204

[fresh island]

Put that little shit in containment hes too loud

[inland ivy]

I turned him to like 35% in configs or something lol

[fresh island]

So many

I think i have him at a 2, and evil at a 10%

I made him incredibly rare because it feels so good to find one after having not seen him all week

[quasi scaffold]

Well today I found Lasso Man again in this map is this an easter egg? or just a bug?

It's won't hurt me but keep attract girl. pretty annoying

[fresh island]

He litterally should not be able to spawn

I dont think this mod even handles spawning

Have you tried playing without the mod to see if it still spawns?

[quasi scaffold]

Well I will try it later

[quasi scaffold]

I confirmed that it's moremonster trigger this in this map

But I've used this mod for a while before I install SCP, never seens this problem before

[polar yoke]

do you have the facility overriding titan?

[wooden zealot]

I feel like ive seen 2-3 people see ribbonman when they shouldn't. Without SCP wonder what it is

[quasi scaffold]

No only SCP

[quasi scaffold]

It's Moremonsters mod

[polar yoke]

i meant the scp facility only appearing on titan

[quasi scaffold]

Oh yeah I didn't change that

[rustic apex]

is it meant to drop next to nothing in the facility?
found a whole 3 items, and scan said there was nothing left

was on experimentation

[fresh island]

well, you were on the easiest moon

how much value were said items?

[rustic apex]

yea
but on normal facilities you can find like
400+

[wooden zealot]

yea like 470 9 items

[rustic apex]

uuhhh
87 was the worth

[fresh island]

wack

[rustic apex]

might've just been a bad seed, we were just very confused lol

[fresh island]

yea

that has happened before in the past but alot of that was fixed in the most recent update

[rustic apex]

ahh okay

[hushed quest]

yeah no whenever me and my friends get scp dungeon we only find like 1-2 items in the current update

[fresh island]

wack

[rustic apex]

oh dear

[fresh island]

ive been finding stuff fine, thatrs weird

[hushed quest]

also not to mention we usually see it in titan

but still we find like less loot than library or a regular dungeon

[fresh island]

ive had maybe 1-2 times weve i diddnt know why it was so low but in private testing and group play weve found 4+ consistently even on early moons

yea idk thats weird as hell

[lofty canyon]

I've only tested the spawn rate stuff for Titan, other moons have different scale factors which likely affect how much can spawn

[rustic apex]

makes sense, okay

[fresh island]

yea

[lofty canyon]

that said, I have found there is a bug with the spawning nodes meaning large and fancy scrap isn't spawning

(and the way lc handles spawning means that failed spawns count towards the total)

[rustic apex]

o h

[lofty canyon]

must have gotten lucky with my tests since I was typically getting ~2k of value for titan

[rustic apex]

yeah it not spawning big scrap is uh
ouch

[lofty canyon]

exactly why it isn't spawning I have to look into more, but I'm off till boxing day so will have to wait till then for a fix to that

[cedar raft]

Heya I was just curious if you had any documentation on where to get started on using LethalLib and the dungen API - I'm using the LethalExpansion SDK for the exterior moon and would love to set up my own interior dungeon for it. I'm a level designer so I'm super keen on setting up my own modular prefabs and props on my own even if its tedious work.

even just a point in the right direction - I'd be super grateful!

[lofty canyon]

There's not really any documentation but basically you'll need to decompile to a Unity project, then compare the existing room prefabs and DunGen data files together to figure out how everything fits together

So you'll need prefabs for rooms and doors, then a dungeon flow, archetype and tile sets

[cedar raft]

Sorry, didn't see this reply, will look into it, thanks ^^

I own DunGen on the UAS is there that much difference between how the decompiled project would behave vs a project I could throw together with a sample scene from DunGen itself?

[lofty canyon]

I think you can only use the decompiled data files with decompiled DunGen and I don't think both work in the same project so you won't be able to compare data files, but otherwise it should work

It will also need to be a decompiled project so the collision masks and tags/flags all line up

[fiery radish]

Was playing more today and got the SCP dungeon on both Rend and Offense, Rend total was about 900 and Offense was about 288. Seems the loot value or total scaling is still a bit low for the target moons, I haven't experienced any real issues since the 1.2 update other than room doors sometimes being missing, not sure if that's intentional or not but very very good progress made on the mod, well done!

[lofty canyon]

Reduced button door count is intentional so monsters don't get stumped by constant doors (the ratio of doors to frames matches other dungeons)

And right now large and fancy scrap fails to spawn, for reasons I have yet to figure out, which reduces the value as failed spawns still count towards the spawn total

[fiery radish]

Huh that's weird, strange to think that's how the game handles it. You'd think failed spawns would re-attempt until successful or at least boost value to compensate 🤔

If it's any help another time I played on Rend I did get paintings in the dungeon, most recent one gave me a bunch of coffee mugs

Would you know if anything is up with the items themselves? Pre 1.2 I only seemed to find Stop signs and bolts, not sure if there's any constraints on the models or anything

[lofty canyon]

The scrap spawn system has a lot of quirks that I don't fully understand, there's something like tags for each spawn position that determines what can spawn there

But all the rooms I've looked at in my decompile just use the general item group, so I just used the same for all my spawns

[torn haven]

uh

yes!

also got a map desync

not sure if its cuz of this mod or another

ah it desynced because of config

different configs

[molten hollow]

No clue if anyone said/niticed before or if its a quirk of SCP dungeon with a spray mod, but spray dosnt work, tried marking my way to enterance with spraycan but can't paint on walls or floor (using betterspraycan mod)

[echo dune]

^ youll need to check the specific ones basegame uses but that is probably the rendering layer mask settings on your meshrenderers

[old magnet]

do you know what the tag that allows spraypaint is called? is it the decal layer?

[echo dune]

yeah

i dont know if the one in my scr is the one lc expects hto

youll have to compare

[old magnet]

Ooblterra's interior also does not allow spraypaint so I'm gonna try fixing it and reporting back

[echo dune]

its using this https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/[email protected]/manual/Decal.html

[old magnet]

the thing that concerns me is that my unity project still reflects v40 of LC but that hopefully shouldnt matter

[echo dune]

i actually have a hunch this is why the game is in hdrp tbh

since for the longest time people just did not know urp could do decals natively

[heavy quest]

anyone get the issue whesre your friends dont seem to be seeing the same map?

the configs are the same

i asked them to make it all 300

[sour trellis]

One of the turrets shot through a door, according to one of my friends

[fresh island]

Yeah the dev knows of that.

Still undlsure why they can do that. The doors have similar code to that of base game doors, so its weird.

[opaque basin]

I mean the nutcracker can also do that

just shoot someone even if the door is locked

[vapid moss]

this was probably said a few times already but I'd highly suggest reducing the possible amount of enemies that can spawn inside when playing with 4 people

encountered this for the first time, got a bunch of loot, then 3x thumpers, 1x bracken, 1x jester, 2x nutcrackers and a ghost girl appeared inside

we werent using any difficulty enhancing mods either, so a config for this would be nice given how large this dungeon can be

[polar yoke]

the enemies are dependent on moon, not the facility

[vapid moss]

I've never seen 3 thumpers spawn on titan before but sure

[cedar raft]

all creatures have costs and each moon has a budget

theres alot of combinations that can happen

[cosmic prairie]

Just uhhh get good with a shovel

[lofty canyon]

That enemy count is pretty standard for Titan, the SCP Facility just happens to be easier to traverse for both enemies and players so encounters are more common, plus no locked doors for them to be behind

[lofty canyon]

Double check the configs are identical, any difference can cause problems, that said I'm working on config sync for the next update

[heavy quest]

Ok

Seems the same cuz I told them and saw it’s the same

[lofty canyon]

Finally, sorted out the scrap ordeal, all scrap items now spawn properly (though config sync still to-be-figured-out)

1.3.0

• Fixed special scrap not spawning, improved scrap spawns in general
• Dungeon flow tweaks to further improve path generation
• Increased chances for special cap rooms to spawn (173, 372, etc)
• Added Bepinex/HookGenPatcher dependencies to make dependencies clearer for manual downloaders

SCP: Facility (custom dungeon mod) [1.3.0]

[brave stag]

So far the doors are desync
Unsure why

Thumpers acting weird? (LOUD Noises) unsure

But keep up the good work

[lofty canyon]

I did tweak the doors a bit to try and fix some pathing issues, guess that failed to work

[brave stag]

@lofty canyon can you check on the thumper?

It was really really loud

[lofty canyon]

my mod doesn't change anything about the thumper, don't know what it could be doing to it

[brave stag]

I’ll try to reproduce it

[timid quiver]

Got the mod configured to only appear on titan but I went to Dine and I got the dungeon

[tall ingot]

more scrap needs to be in there

[brave stag]

so testing out

it was just a silly cheater

sorry about that

[marsh meadow]

Is there a way to enable just this map and the mansion for Titan? I don't like the bunker layout very much. Adjustable scrap rate via config would also be neat

Additionally, does big scrap spawn in SCP yet, or is that still a wip?

[lofty canyon]

Scrap spawning has been fixed, everything spawns correctly now (dungeon generation has been tweaked though and are a bit big so it might still be hard to find, gonna tune it down a bit for an upcoming hotfix alongside a door networking problem)

I'm not sure if there's a mod for tweaking dungeon spawns but I don't really want to fiddle with dungeon gen for anything besides this mod, you could make it guaranteed if you want to run with just the SCP dungeon though

[fresh island]

hey so, dispite having the option turned only to paid moons, its showing up on march. and the scrap is spawning, but either the dungeon is too large for march or its just not spawning. this is something thats been really frustrating, because in all my hours of testing this mod, i cannot replicate it UNLESS there are other people playing with me, and i cant find anything in the console to explain why that is.

the doors seems to also be entirely client-side.

this mod looks super promicing but it keeps having huge game-altering problems as soon as im not the only player in the lobby and im frankly sick of it.

[echo dune]

(Keep in mind this is the first public custom dungen ever)

[lofty canyon]

Doors issue is known, I've got a fix ready when I get home from work, and I'll be tuning the dungeon size down so it's easier to find stuff (as far as I know scrap spawning itself is fully fixed, just dungeon size was also tweaked so it'll still be hard to find scrap)

Dunno what's up with it spawning on non-configured moons is, need to investigate that more

[fresh island]

brother ive been following this mod for a while i know

im just pissed because i can get it to work perfectly fine when im on my own and as SOON as i get into a game with friends it doesnt work

when you spend actual weeks trying to fine-tune your mods to not have any errors and this is how its been, it gets on you

like i really like this mod, do not get me wrong. I just like it in singleplayer, when it isnt spawning on moons i told it not to and when it actually has the scrap it seemingly is supposed to have.

and i have no idea how having more people changes it- the console diddnt come up with anything alarming when i was looking at it (keep in mind im no programmer)

[weary chasm]

i've redownloaded the files and even the other required mods and i can't seem to ever get the dungeon spawned @lofty canyon

even with guarnteed enable turned on

[rough hamlet]

@lofty canyon sorry for the ping, I'm working on a dungeon mod and have the dungeon generating and spawning on a moon but cannot figure out how to get the entrance teleport setup in unity. Any tips?

[signal gull]

ooo any hints on what the theme of the dungeon ur making is?

[west nebula]

same

[lofty canyon]

ah, lethal lib changed how it handles moon types