Welcome to Ooblterra! v2.0.0

[rocky geyser]

Cool but please do make them optional. Someone might love everything but one monster and it'd be a shame if they didn't use the mod because of that.

[grim bridge]

also already possible via LLL's config :)

its also possible to import a vanilla monster to ooblterra or ship one of the ooblterra monsters out to another planet if you love them that much

[rocky geyser]

I certainly might.

[tropic spear]

What is eye security supposed to do?

It never seems to kill me

[azure falcon]

you can check their scan node for more info, but ||eyesec check to see if youre holding any scrap either in your hand or inventory||

and aggro if so

[tropic spear]

Ohhhh

That makes sense

[edgy robin]

why does discord unfollow my posts 👁️👄👁️

[grim bridge]

thread's archived due to inactivity

which reminds me: status update

Oobl Ghost is pretty much finalized and should be gotten to yall in the coming days, once the bugfix round is done

I'm also cooking up something in order to make Tesla Coils a bit more threatening than they currently are

0.8.1 will ship with the ghost and the generation changes. maybe the Tesla Coil change as well but no promises

[prime reef]

W

[steep sandal]

How many moonsters is planned again?

[grim bridge]

4 currently implemented (lurker excluded)
3 on the way pre-1.0
at least 2 on the way post 1.0

[steep sandal]

Hot

[prime reef]

screenshots of ooblghost

[old saddle]

Thunderstore?!

[alpine locust]

No?!

[grim bridge]

good things come to those who wait

[noble yacht]

👀🔥

[thick kayak]

Indeed

[dull ore]

rip thread 🙏

[next glacier]

he does work on it, just doesn't post anything on the thread

https://github.com/Skull220/Welcome_To_Ooblterra/tree/master

[dull ore]

yeah i know I'm working on the mod with him lmao

[next glacier]

💀

[dull ore]

tbh I just needed to type something so it unmuted the thread lmao

[next glacier]

fair enough lol

[grim bridge]

I forget yall can spy on my progress there lmao

[next glacier]

hehe

[alpine locust]

https://tenor.com/view/binoculars-smile-cool-swag-awesome-gif-16627563

[sweet bough]

How are we ooblterring today?

[grim bridge]

more bugfixing yesterday, and today, and probably tomorrow

Oobl Ghost will be to yall by the end of the week

after that I want to finally take a crack at custom weather

[obtuse raptor]

have fun

[grim bridge]

I already know I'm not going to on account of the fact that weather is an enum

has anyone done it before?

[obtuse raptor]

xilo has i think

i have a wip extendedweathereffect in wip lll but

[grim bridge]

ill have a look around when the time comes

[prime reef]

do you think ooblterra factory will break on other moons?

[grim bridge]

I don't imagine there'd be any particular reason why that would happen

but you never know. mod compat under best conditions is always a coin toss

[obtuse raptor]

^ i don't say this to imply skullcrusher is doing wrong but ooblterra factory will only break on other moons if the moon or dungeon is doing something wrong

nothing inherently is problematic

[harsh ferry]

You should also take a break sometime lol dont overwork yourself

[grim bridge]

I will say I think the reverse might actually be problematic? due to the way map hazard spawns are modified by Ooblterra. I check to see youre on the right planet but not specifically that the Laboratory is loaded

[grim bridge]

appreciated but I actually did give myself a few days sometime around a week or two ago

at this point im hopefully just gonna be plugging along until release

[harsh ferry]

If you feel tired dont let that stop you when your tired

[obtuse raptor]

nah i gotta fix that

cuz people want custom ones anyway

dassa me issue

youll prob have a list in extendeddungeonflow and on selection itll populate the selectablelevel list temporaily with the missing ones

[grim bridge]

thatd make a lot of sense. its tricky as it currently stands because hazards are associated with the planet, not the dungeon

[obtuse raptor]

yeah its dumb

very much a "1 guy making a game only he touches" kinda issue

[grim bridge]

yeah the setup on the backend is very strange

[obtuse raptor]

it works tho so i cant blame them

ez to fix when your the person doin it

really really hoping v50 reworks weather to bring it up to the asset composure of levels,items,enemeis etc.

that one is the issue

[grim bridge]

I cant believe that youre not terrified of v50

lord knows I am

you have more of a reason to be, even

[obtuse raptor]

im only afraid of being unavailable when it drops

because of how LLL uses vanilla workflow and assets i'm prettyyyy ok with I think

[grim bridge]

never know what zeekers is gonna decide needs to be changed I reckon

my allergy to transpilers has to bite me in the ass at some point

[obtuse raptor]

sure but it's gonna be consistently fucked

nothing is like, founded on anything crazyy arbitrary

the only big concern i have is the random unity script order of execution problem

[round minnow]

phobia of transpilers

[harsh ferry]

Bro v50 is gonna be the purge

[grim bridge]

phobia is I guess more accurate

[harsh ferry]

Im gonna prob lose half my mods

[grim bridge]

this is a good mindset to have tbh

no such thing as an unsolveable problem i guess

[harsh ferry]

Nah why my mc modpack is crashing is the unsolvable problem im like actually giving up on that 😭

[obtuse raptor]

not to be cynical but honestly v50 might be in the fact that it might kill off any unsupported and poorly programmed mods

massive hater energy in saying that but to an extent with how unstanderdized mods are rn its not bad to have a little adapt or die pass

[grim bridge]

I venture to guess custom moons will be broken for a day or 3 and then everything will bounce back. Honestly the idea that currently scares me the most is that zeekers ends up implementing an enemy thats similar to one of mine/one of my planned ones

[obtuse raptor]

i wanna fix it within the day it drops

[grim bridge]

I do not envy that lmao. 150 little pieces that could all be broken

[grim bridge]

Golden rule of software dev; however long you think itll be, give yourself 3x that

its ok if you don't listen to this advice though; I don't listen to it either

[obtuse raptor]

really depends

[harsh ferry]

It worked fine so i added like 6 mode mods then it just didnt i even tried deleting the config and one mod by one

[obtuse raptor]

the big thing rn is i really wanna get le moons to LLL asap

because if v50 drops before then its gonna somewhat just kill those maps for awhile

[grim bridge]

oh yeah isnt LE a retired project now

[obtuse raptor]

more or less

[grim bridge]

ive had my head so deep in the sand bro

[obtuse raptor]

LL too but eva gave me grace to take the torch for scrap and enemies etc. and me and @haughty violet are contributors to fix bugs and port to update if necessary

[obtuse raptor]

a think a lot of early modders burnt out abit, time since update probably doesnt help either

and ac drama

[grim bridge]

lord the ac drama

[tight delta]

it scares me fr
Ive been trying to cut back my 80 mod list but I literally cant find something I dont activly use

[obtuse raptor]

i think i mentioned it somewhere before but the night advancedcompany w/ LLL in it released on the Thunderstore was during the peak of me having covid and i was dealing with it from 11pm-5am

was a fun three weeks

[tight delta]

oh that sounds awesome

[harsh ferry]

I have 100 more mods that i dont wanna delete more than you aka 180

Thats gonna break 100%

[tight delta]

does your modlist have any of my mods? if no then it sucks im afraid

[harsh ferry]

Das crazy

[tight delta]

[harsh ferry]

Is u okay now

[obtuse raptor]

yeeeee

[tight delta]

idk dude im insane
I went from I dont really wanna mod this game anymore to now uhhh
I wanna do moons interiors enemies

probably because my interest for the game has resparked

true this is the ooblterra tread I forgot
offtopic moment

[shy marten]

@grim bridge is this mod not on thunderstore cuz its beta?

[harsh ferry]

yes

[shy marten]

ok

[harsh ferry]

my friends got burnt out so i spent like 1-2 weeks just refining my modpack and now their intresets resparked

[prime reef]

my intrest def died once AC died out, cause i gotta rebalance my modpack with lethal quantity which will take a while. Plus im not as intrested in thr game as i once was

[old saddle]

Yea customization isn't great without ac my whole group plays 50% less now

[spring oasis]

ooooo

[tight delta]

LC v50 expected to come in a week

[dull ore]

Uh oh

[grim bridge]

here we go

[dusty niche]

He deleted that message btw

So it's not confirmed

[dull ore]

CLEAR

[dusty niche]

Some have speculated he meant it as in dropping some news about the update in a week or 2

We'll need to wait and see

[grim bridge]

zeekers might have finally learned what all indie devs ought to know: giving deadlines of any kind is a horrible idea

[dusty niche]

Probably

Cus I checked his Discord and that message is no longer there, so it was likely deleted for a reason

My guess is cus it came across wrong

[dull ore]

My guess is that he typed that and then unity crashed and wiped out the entirety of update 50

[grim bridge]

thatd make a lot of sense

[tight delta]

its in the patreon channel

[dusty niche]

Ah

[grim bridge]

could you imagine working on an entire major update in one (1) unity session and never saving and it just crashes. I think id swear off touching computers ever again

go live in the mountains or on a farm or something

[tight delta]

I gotta start thinning my modlist fr but there is litearlly nothing I want to remove

the fog update v50 is coming

[dusty niche]

Mods usually tend to get updated pretty fast when an update drops

I remember how fast everything got updated basically day 1 v47 dropped and I was worried

Lmao

[tight delta]

some mods that arnt being updated wont update

its also a pain in the ass to figure out what works and what doesnt\

[grim bridge]

to batbys point I do really wonder what will end up culled by v50

[dusty niche]

I mean from what I understand

V50 is mostly gonna be Interiors and a few new enemies

[grim bridge]

he said new moon but did he say new interior?

[dusty niche]

Ah well the post for v47 mentioned he wanted to do interior stuff if I remember

[tight delta]

if they end up changing anything on the backend trol

[grim bridge]

yeah thats what I'm worried about. I gotta double check all my patches and crossreference them against the diff

[dusty niche]

Ah okay so maybe new moons

[grim bridge]

map variation is kind of ambiguous tbf

[dusty niche]

Yeah I think that mostly means maps and interiors tbh

The Facility layout honestly should be removed

It's so bad

☠️

[grim bridge]

too iconic

[dusty niche]

Yeah

[grim bridge]

go ask tf2 to remove 2fort lmao

[tight delta]

nah I love faclity

alot of my friends even prefer it to modded interirors

[dusty niche]

Facility is bland, but you start to like it again when you have custom interior layouts

[grim bridge]

honestly im tired of facility myself but I think thats due to overexposure

i dont think theres much fundamentally wrong with it. definitely doesnt freak me out as much as manor though

[dusty niche]

This is why I only use the modded interiors that fit the vanilla atmosphere tbh

[tight delta]

I probably wont be hit to bad

and in terms of my mods I have released I have to do no work to fix them if they break lol

because its just the apis updating

[dull ore]

Iirc his patreon mentions a new moon

[tight delta]

I feel like most do that pretty well what do you exclude

[dusty niche]

I mean I use Office, ScarletDevilMansion, and Dantors

they feel the most vanilla to me

[tight delta]

I have that + scoopy + bunker

• scp

[harsh ferry]

true

[tight delta]

im debating removing bunker until it gets a size decrease

[prime reef]

all of them do

[dusty niche]

I disagree tbh, I feel like the 3 I listed are the ones that fit the most into the vanilla game lol

[zenith nebula]

facility is fine but it being effectively the only dungeon does wear its appeal down a lot unless you go rend/dine

plenty of moon variation so that's not really an issue, interiors are what is most needed imo

[grim bridge]

wakey wakey thread

Welcome To Ooblterra Beta Version [0.8.1]

Haunting...

ADDED
-New Enemy: Oobl Ghost
-Spawns later in the day
-||In Singleplayer, can be dissipated by speaking into a walkie when it's in range||
-||In Multiplayer, can be dissipated by having a teammate speak into a walkie you're listening to||
-||In both cases, can also be warded off by receiving a Signal Translator transmission while it's in range||

-New Dungeon Tile
-Spawns on main path

-Dynamic music added based on time of day
-Replaces the static music that played the whole time in the overworld

CHANGED
-Crusher Room tiles now only sometimes spawn with Crushers
-Spawn rate for Spike Traps reduced
-Spawn rate for Tesla Coils increased
-Totems of Undeath will now ||be destroyed if the player holding them dies||

REMOVED
-Time on Ooblterra is no longer slowed relative to other planets
-This fixes an issue where days would sometimes not turn over after leaving the planet
-Removed a fire exit spawn location that would cause it to immediately drop the player in front of a spike trap

FIXED
-Drained batteries will now properly reinsert
-Drained batteries will not get stuck in the receptacle if reinserted
-Gallenarma, Eye Security, and Adult Wanderer no long apply fear visuals to all players globally
-Gallenarma no longer get stuck in their shaking animation on clients
-Addressed an issue with Totems of Undeath ||Not properly spawning Ghost Players||
-Addressed an issue where players could kite Gallenarma around in their investigate state under certain circumstances
-Fixed Ooblterra's footsteps overriding the grass footstep sound on other moons
-Gallenarma and Adult Wanderers hitboxes will now disappear on death
-Tweaks to overworld geometry
-Dropship now has flame particles + thruster SFX
-Fixed an issue where the Adult Wanderer's eyestalk would disappear at certain angles
-The sound of the Machine powering on can now only be heard by players inside the Laboratory

This update along with future ones can be found on WTO's Github Releases page. When in doubt, download the one at the top of the list!

[keen terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

[harsh ferry]

ayyy thats the glitch i found (the footsteps one)

you always bring huge updates

[brazen ocean]

[vagrant trench]

anyone know how to configure the spawn rate of the interior

[grim bridge]

is it not possible via the LethalLevelLoader config?

[old saddle]

anyone have pics of oobleterra and its monsters?

[vagrant trench]

sorry for the late yes I completely forgot that a feature for LLL it works

[unique spire]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-animated-lazy-sleepy-cute-gif-17741860

[prime reef]

Hows progress going?

[grim bridge]

development just picked back up yesterday

0.8.1 will be the last beta release

but we'll have a good amount of new content ready for the 1.0 release on Thunderstore at month's end

[prime reef]

Bet I will be finished with my exams by then too

[past venture]

is fog not building up over time still an issue

[grim bridge]

thats been long since fixed, fog should be getting thicker as the day progresses

it may have broken in v50

[past venture]

waow

[grim bridge]

are you saying that because it did break in v50 or

[past venture]

no

[grim bridge]

oh ok thank god

[prime reef]

So are you going to skip .9 and go straight to 1.0?

[grim bridge]

thats the idea

[prime reef]

Hopefully

[past venture]

it would appear this is not pinned

[grim bridge]

that it isnt

[obtuse raptor]

can use /jeb pin now

[grim bridge]

doesnt really matter itll be outdated in a week anyway

oh huh

[past venture]

are these still planned for 1.0?

[dull ore]

Most of these are already in tbh

[grim bridge]

-Openable Doors <-- Present as of 0.8.1
-Hanging Electrical wires <-- Cut
-Bear Traps <-- Present in 1.0 build
-Puddles <-- Cut
-Baby Lurker AI <-- Present in 1.0 build
-Baby Lurker Eggs <-- Present in 1.0 build
-Frankenstein Room Behavior<-- Present as of 0.8.1
-Custom Weather conditions (at least one) <-- Planned for 1.0, might be pushed to post-release
-Scan nodes/terminal entries for monsters other than Wanderer <-- Present as of 0.8.1
-Arachnophobia mode support for Lurkers/Baby Lurkers <-- Planned for 1.0

[past venture]

ah, i haven't checked in in a bit

[dull ore]

Wait we cut the frankenstein room stuff???

[grim bridge]

oh

No I put the wrong thing there

good catch, thanks

[past venture]

do you plan on un-cutting the cut stuff for a release past 1.0?

[grim bridge]

I couldn't think of a great way to make either of those traps particularly interesting, so probably not

[dull ore]

Puddles im p sure we decided to cut for gameplay reasons so those prolly are gone for good.

Correct me if im wrong

[past venture]

what did you have in mind for them? maybe i could provide an idea or two

[grim bridge]

I would like to maybe revisit the electrical wires idea because i think they could have an interesting integration with fuse boxes. Give you a reason to actually turn off the switches, besides opening doors without mission control's help

but when I planned for them I assumed unity had built in cable component features like Unreal does. Lo and fuckin behold it does not

puddles would functionally be a repeat of spike traps in that it's a large area you have to jump over or sneak around. I guess they'd be different in that mission control couldn't turn them off, but that hardly felt like a big enough difference for it to not feel like a retread

[past venture]

would the hanging wires just damage you if you were close or something of the sort?

[grim bridge]

the wires would swing around and zap you if they made contact. not sure whether I'd want it to be fatal or not

unless the sector they were in was powered off in which case they'd be inert

[past venture]

some quick ideas are maybe
for puddles, they could alert enemies in some way?

for electrical wires, occasionally blocking a hallway with a big electrical radius on a timer. half the wires are active when the other half aren't. doesn't deal too much damage, but maybe slows the player so it's not viable to run through live electrics during a chase. removing the power causes them to remain off, providing more access to places without having to wait.

[grim bridge]

that latter idea isn't bad as one to add a bit more spice to ||tesla coils|| actually

[past venture]

[grim bridge]

regardless any re-visitation of those ideas would definitely be post-1.0. Right now its kinda just beelining to the finish

[past venture]

so it goes

[grim bridge]

-Enforcer AI <-- Present in 1.0 build
-Hunter Bot AI <-- Drafted in 1.0 build, but will probably be post-release as planned
-Grinder AI
-2x Usable Scrap <-- Present as of 0.8.1
-Decoration Item

[prime reef]

I think I ooblterra should have a parkour room if it doesn’t already

[chrome valve]

Not in the interior but the moon has parkour to the fire exit

[grim bridge]

a room specifically for it is on my "if I have time" list

a bit contingent though

[prime reef]

ye

[past venture]

is any specific price planned for ooblterra yet?

[grim bridge]

1-1.5k

[soft hawk]

is this v50 compatible?

[grim bridge]

the beta is not, but 1.0 will be on release

[soft hawk]

awesome!

[prime reef]

what is exactly wrong with v50?

[grim bridge]

huh?

[prime reef]

why is oobl not compatble, like what issues occur

[grim bridge]

not 100% sure. when I moved my environment to v50, the AI had lots of navigation issues

WTO 0.8.1 is also built for LLL 1.1.6 and so idk how or if it'd work on LLL 1.2.2

[prime reef]

oh alr

[ancient depot]

Excited for this, actually looks like the best LC mod yet

[winged nacelle]

The fix for that was found in #1206494982521753620

Just by making more ai nodes helps

Cause aquatis had same issues with mob navigation etc

[azure falcon]

is it really just frequency? the way I solved it with WTO was by positioning them at the exact right height off the ground

I say solved, it's still having occasional problems, so if frequency is it I guess ill just add more

[grim bridge]

Hey all, just to give an update, since it's about 2 and a half hours from the "end of april" deadline I kept stating. While the mod's in a happy state content wise, I still feel like there's more to do in terms of polishing and such, so I'm going to for now take an extra two weeks to do just that. Apologies for the wait, but hopefully the finished product will be worth it.

[past venture]

i didn't even realize it was the end of the month, my goodness

[ancient depot]

No worries homie I'm excited for this, good things need to cook 🔥

[ancient depot]

Oh shit hearthian rep

U rock

[past venture]

[shy marten]

this moon releasing in a week or two?

on ts i mean

[grim bridge]

nope

it's actually releasing RIGHT NOW on thunderstore

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Skeleton_Studios/Welcome_To_Ooblterra/

WELCOME TO OOBLTERRA V1.0 NOW OFFICIALLY ON THUNDERSTORE

[feral sinew]

y'all are joking

first starlancer then wesley then this ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[dusky epoch]

does this function fine with meltdown? i see it has a apparatus replacement listed on the mod page

[grim bridge]

our apparatus replacement doesn't actually use the default apparatus code, so it's unlikely

[rancid field]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[dusky epoch]

ok sweet thanks

[grim bridge]

mod integrations will be worked on in the future. I promised @zenith nebula some integrations with SCP way back and I still intend on bringing them in

along with a bunch of additions for post-launch

[bold flicker]

oh shit it's fucking out

holy shit

[grim bridge]

Welcome to Ooblterra!

[keen terrace]

SWAG

woosh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0CR-QIVKeI

[dusty niche]

Happy to see you finally release it bud

Months in the making

c;

[dull ore]

Yipppiiee!

i hope you all like it :D

[grim bridge]

Welcome to Ooblterra Release Version [1.0]

Welcome to Ooblterra!

ADDED
-New Enemy: Enforcer
-Inside Enemy
-New Enemy: Baby Lurker
-Inside Enemy
-Supports Arachnophobia Mode
-New Indoor Hazard: Baby Lurker Eggs
-New Outside Hazard: Bear Traps
-Spawn later in the day
-5 Story Logs to be found across the map
-Can be seen in the Sigurd menu and accessed via ||view mack1, view mack2,, view mack3, view mack4, view mack5||

CHANGED
-Various Rebalances for enemy behavior
-Added ambient sounds to certain tiles for sake of atmosphere
-Frankenstein Rooms now spawn closer to the start room to make them more viable
-Adult Wanderers can now occasionally spawn naturally outside
-Adult Wanderers will now be upset by proximity and Line-Of-Sight
-||Powering on the Machine|| now has more severe consequences

FIXED
-Charged Batteries will now retain their charge upon closing and reopening the game
-Various other bugfixes I forgot :)

KNOWN ISSUES

I can walk out of the bounds of the map!
Yeah, you can. This will be fixed in the next version.

I'm having trouble reading an enemy's bestiary entry!
Make sure you enter the enemy's name in all lowercase with no spaces.
For example, use babylurkeregg instead of Baby Lurker Egg.

There's a bunch of red text every time I land on the moon!
Don't worry, this is normal. As long as it ends with skipped because it does not allow read access, it's not actually much of a problem.

I can't route to the company building!
This is due to v1.2.2 of LethalLevelLoader. Community solutions are to downgrade to v1.2.1 or to download TerminalFormatter.

My scrap is being randomly changed when I reload a save!
This is due to v1.2.1 of LethalLevelLoader. Pick your poison.

Gallenarma are getting stuck and not chasing me!
I'll fix this as soon as I figure out what causes it, I promise.

My config settings aren't working!
Turns out I accidentally fucked up LLL config integration. I'll fix it before the next version.

MOD INCOMPATABILITIES
LethalPipeRemoval
WeatherTweaks (turn off "SunAnimatorPatch" in config)

This update along with future ones can be found on:
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Skeleton_Studios/Welcome_To_Ooblterra/

[undone yoke]

No way

Guys it happened

It’s real

[distant egret]

Sounds really cool.

[shy marten]

lol

u got me

[wicked ravine]

yeah it detects LungProp being disconnected. otherwise you can do MeltdownAPI.StartMeltdown

[past venture]

OOOOOOOOO

oh my gammit

[dull ore]

is this real?

[crude condor]

how is this mod's compatibility with other mods?

[grim bridge]

we have no idea

[crude condor]

ah kk

ill let u know then when i end up playing it lol

its probably fine

[hardy siren]

wooo congrats!!!!!!!!!!

[void agate]

grats man

[past venture]

why do you have three apparatuses in your ship in the trailer

[grim bridge]

I think zach found 3 apparatuses is why

[tame zealot]

Geez now this is crazy

[neat harbor]

Holy fucking shit

Its out

[polar verge]

when I add it to my modpack it causes infinite seed loading

will update If I can get more info

no errors in console

when removed pack works

[grim bridge]

does this happen with just ooblterra and its dependencies?

[polar verge]

let me test

just before I test any known or probable incompat?

[grim bridge]

nothing in specific, no

if it works on its own then ill look into your full modlist and see what might be coming up

[polar verge]

Ok tested it with just it, its dependancies and AC(wanted to see if it was being a problem child)

works

but let me try and land on ooble

[hard lichen]

If you can, switch LLL debugging to Developer, that'll give an error for what's causing the infinite seed problem

[polar verge]

will try in a sec

also is there a config for the mod?

[grim bridge]

WTO is meant to rely on LLL's config

though it seems it's been having issues as of latest version?

if there's something youd want configured that wouldn't be found in LLL's config, though, you can let me know and ill see about implementing it

[polar verge]

Oh ok, just wanted to remove the suits since all the suits in my pack have to be bought

[grim bridge]

ahhhh

Yeah, I can add a setting for that

[polar verge]

or maybe make them unlockable

either one

[grim bridge]

will try to include that in the next 1-3 versions

[polar verge]

nice, gonna try what pure said and if that doesnt work ill send my modlist

[polar verge]

also just wondering, I noticed there was custom death music, are there gonna be any other custom tracks?

love the death theme

[grim bridge]

there should be custom music based on the time of day, specifically

when you go back outside at different times

[polar verge]

ah, that prob why I didnt hear it

since I died lol

[grim bridge]

we've tossed around ideas for adding an extra track to the boombox, no promises though

[polar verge]

ok so the bug still happens in my pack

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[grim bridge]

I will take a look and report back, though I'll state for the record that compatability with unrelated mods does tend to be lower on the priority list compared to fixes and new features

[polar verge]

should mention I tried running it without any of the other moons besides wesleys

still happened

[obtuse raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/let's-go-lets-goo-woo-woohoo-slaphands-gif-2455885103646184999

oob wesley and generic stuff got me wanting to cook again ngl

[grim bridge]

been a long time coming

I feel kinda bad youre stuck making the tools while the rest of us get to make all the fun custom content

[obtuse raptor]

i've been making fun outside of LC dw 😛

very happy you managed to get this at 1.0 man

[polar verge]

hey man I found the issue https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Hamster/LethalPipeRemoval/

if I have the option to remove the posters it bugs

but if its off then the mod works

[grim bridge]

I wonder if the code that changes the ship's poster breaks everything if the poster isn't found, then

shouldn't be too difficult to just add a nullcheck to circumvent that, if so, but ill investigate further soon

[dusty niche]

There's a couple options with that mod you shouldn't ever toggle

[polar verge]

like?

[dusty niche]

Posters for one, Suit Rack, and the Speaker by the door

[polar verge]

ik bout the other 2 but how tf did the posters cause issues

[dusty niche]

The teleporter buttons being moved also used to cause error spam but has reportedly been fixed

[dusty niche]

I mean I can think of quite a few ways lol

Like if you're using Ship Windows for example

[polar verge]

THATS WHY THEY DISAPPEARED

omg

lol

[dusty niche]

Ship Windows has an option to move the posters so I could see a compat issue coming from that alone

[stone siren]

yippee

[grim bridge]

dw, as stated in the Known Issues this shouldn't cause any problems

unless it did cause any problems. in which case its a problem

[stone siren]

Didn't notice my fault

and nah didn't cause anything

...that I saw at least

[civic salmon]

just curious, can I use your new interior only without using the moon?

[grim bridge]

via LLL's config, be aware it hasnt been tested in alternative configurations though

[civic salmon]

thanks for this quick response! the mod in general looks amazing so well done

[chilly ocean]

Probably conflict with another mod but its the only moon that i routed where it lands but ship door just doesn't open even when manually pressing it

log if it helps

[neat harbor]

I had this issue!!!!!

[chilly ocean]

I have 105 mods in my pack so not sure which

[ancient depot]

Oh my god

The wait was so worth

Just watched the trailer I can NOT wait for this 😍

[split sierra]

What is this? It looks like an achievement?

[split sierra]

What is the bug? I am currious

[past venture]

achievement for the game ooblterra is from, On Your Hands

[split sierra]

ahh never knew

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1708200/On_Your_Hands/

Because of your map I will now have to play this. 😛

[polar verge]

Infinite seed loading

[grim bridge]

fairly certain this is a conflict with weathertweaks, which attempts to override the sun animator

Ooblterra also does so in order to make the fog get thicker as the day goes by

ill get in touch with the mod author to see what can be done

[chilly ocean]

Ah. if that was it i remember weathertweaks having config to disable it. I'll try disabling it and see if it works.

[chilly ocean]

the door opened with it disabled. Nice!

[grim bridge]

cc: @neat harbor since you said you were having the same issue

glad you got it working

[fallen cliff]

cant get this mod to work, i cant land on any moon with this on

get these errors

[grim bridge]

check for both of the previously identified incompatabilities (LethalPipeRemoval, WeatherTweaks)

hmm

do you by chance have LC_API?

[fallen cliff]

i do not

[grim bridge]

it seems this is because something else is loading WTO's asset bundles before the mod itself can

throw me your mod list

[fallen cliff]

profile code or just the modlist?

[grim bridge]

either or

[fallen cliff]

profile code: 018f58d1-39ed-e71d-f39f-f7a95c69b273

[prime reef]

wait whats the custom terminal

and lets go Im so happy this is released

[cedar hull]

i have weathertweaks installed but cant find the sunanimatorpatch well...

Also does the interior have an LLL Config?

[grim bridge]

yep, should be called Oobl Laboratory

[cedar hull]

yeah found it now and everything seems to work

[solemn raven]

I’ve kinda avoided a lot of stuff on this mod to get a good first experience when 1.0 dropped

I didn’t even get to see a monster before i was too spooked and noped out lmfao

[grim bridge]

thats what I like to hear

theres so much still in store for not just you but everyone. Idk if anyones even figured out how the apparatus replacement works yet

[solemn raven]

The scrap values seem insanely high though

[grim bridge]

Yeah, I plan to tweak both them and the route price ahead of next release

[solemn raven]

It gave me like 5300 when I scanned

Gotcha

[grim bridge]

I wanted Ooblterra to slot in place as an endgame moon that you pretty much had to go to in order to meet the higher quotas as you get deeper and deeper into a run

[solemn raven]

Super cool stuff you got going here though! Happy to see you were finally able to drop 1.0 after so long

[grim bridge]

but its clear from feedback that I overtuned it just a bit

[solemn raven]

It’s been what…5 or 6 months?

[grim bridge]

ty ty im glad everyones enjoying it

I started on this project like 3 days after people found out how to mod LC

since November ~13th

[solemn raven]

I’ve been keeping an eye on it since January I think

I loved the ambient music inside

Really added to the atmosphere in a natural way

It isn’t jarring but also keeps the “this isn’t normal lethal company” feel you’re going for with the expansion

[grim bridge]

I really thought our musician was in this server but I guess not. ill forward him your compliments

[solemn raven]

Haha, please do! Me and my bf both thought the music slapped

[dull ore]

This project was a pretty big challenge for me cause I'm used to Unreal and not Unity. So I had to select the Unity export option instead of Unreal (the unity option had the wrong setting anyways)

[grim bridge]

You probably wouldve been more hands on the engine side of things if your unity install, like, worked

[dull ore]

Yeah I do really wish I could have

I tried reinstalling unity and stuff but my shit's just cursed

[crisp current]

I wanted to work more hands on with the engine as well but I had a lot of trouble with project file itself
Although I believe thats more of a unity/assetripper problem not yours

[zenith nebula]

wasn't OYH Unity or is it unreal?

[dull ore]

it's unreal

[grim bridge]

OYH is on UE5

[zenith nebula]

huh neat, didn't realize

from my gamedev course I know the artists loved having a programmer that preferred UE5 cuz it's just so much better at dealing with models

[dull ore]

IT REALLY REALLY IS!!!!!

it has way more tools and is so much easier to use

[grim bridge]

Unity has about 2 features that I would describe being better than unreal and every single other thing I'd give to unreal

[zenith nebula]

maybe it's better than when I used it but Unreal C++ is some real wacky stuff

[dull ore]

https://tenor.com/view/transitions-kinemaster-black-guy-suit-tiktok-gif-25279479

blueprints

[zenith nebula]

BUT MY PERFORMANCE!!!!

[dull ore]

ur prolly right but i will say it def makes it easier for me to make tweaks and small additions to projects without needing to get Skull involved

[zenith nebula]

the UE API stuff still makes stuff customizable, and imo is way better than how Unity does it

like the UPROPERTY stuff is pretty well defined

just the way it crams a garbage collector into C++ is

[dull ore]

oh so true i hugely agree

<- not a programmer

[grim bridge]

OYH is actually ||a blueprint only project :^) ||

its not something I intend on repeating but I really love how quickly I can prototype and refine code without needing to open VS

[zenith nebula]

Blueprints are definitely a nice thing for quickly getting stuff done, though once you get heavy processing and giant loops the limitations become pretty apparent

My final year team project when I was in AIE was a kind of randomly generated dungeon crawler and having the dungeon generation algorithm in blueprints would be agony

[grim bridge]

thats probably entirely fair actually, a lot of our UE work has been pretty linear as you know

[zenith nebula]

It's also a lot of fun making the tools for the artists to quickly iterate on

[grim bridge]

oh yeah the fact that Laz can just pop into the engine and do shit without actually being a programmer is so nice. and unreal also just has a lot of stuff out of the box that you can work with without the headache of plugins or writing it yourself

I was shocked that unity didnt have a native cable system

part of the reason I cut the dangling wire hazard

[zenith nebula]

Unity missing features that have existed since the source engine, classic

[grim bridge]

it has been used to make a lot of really great games, I can only assume the otherwise talented devs simply didnt know any better

alternatively they didnt want to be shackled to Epic Games because it was a big corporation. Luckily unity didnt get rotted so bad that it makes even worse decisions now

[zenith nebula]

One thing I made during that AIE project that I was pretty proud of was a room creator so the artists could make a room model, put a room component on it, and lay out all the back end details like doors, spawn points and the walkable tiles in a nice window

More or less made DunGen from scratch in UE now that I think about it lmao

[zenith nebula]

Unity has that balance of really simple and easy to understand while also being flexible enough for most people to find what they need pretty easily

I see it as a stepping stone up from rpgmaker for some people as well

[dull ore]

rpg maker is v good if you want to make a very specific kind of game lol

[grim bridge]

I did have a harder time onboarding unity than unreal but I feel like that was cuz I learned unreal first

there were a lot of things otherwise familiar working in doombuilder, but

I figure it also depends on your background

[dull ore]

fun fact: one of the levels in OYH is actually a doom level

[grim bridge]

a level I made in doombuilder to be specific

a friend came to me showing me tools that could take level files and turn them into unity fbx files

and I was like "cool" so I tried it and 2 years later I shipped it

[dull ore]

that shit is still in the final game mostly untouched

[zenith nebula]

Nice, kinda curious which one

[dull ore]

09

[grim bridge]

the only real change to it is that I made the walls a bit more

scraggly? yknow they have like folds in em

[zenith nebula]

Will have to peep at home, and yeah makes sense

[zenith nebula]

Rpgm is wacky in how much you can bend it to do stuff you wouldn't expect

[dull ore]

i have never super messed with the new versions myself

only ever did VXAce

which i hear is kind of bad

[zenith nebula]

I didn't realise rpgm could just do 3d games till I saw Dissilusion St

[grim bridge]

I have... RPGMaker MZ

[zenith nebula]

Also Lisa that looks like a Unity game till you get into a battle

[dull ore]

one of my top 10 games of all time is an rpg maker game that looks like this lol

https://youtu.be/HFnnhtrRRks?si=NoMiRgvm6gWPjYI0

which blew my fucking mind

[grim bridge]

onboarding MZ was pretty fuckin bad I will say but I imagine that's cuz im so used to 3D work

[dull ore]

i genuinely didnt know until i cracked it open if it was actually rpg maker or if it was just trying to evoke it on purpose

[zenith nebula]

Yeah can see why, same kinda thing with disillusion st where you can definitely see the parts that are rpgm-like but that it doesn't look like it should be possible with the kinda jank editor
https://youtu.be/jVhBEo9KfHw?si=UMtk_E1W6EPuWgOh

[dull ore]

oh wow this is sick

[zenith nebula]

Idk what it is about that artstyle but it's crack to me I love it

[dull ore]

its v v goodf

[zenith nebula]

I really wanna try making a game with a similar style, just gotta actually come up with a game to make

[solemn raven]

Me, thinking I’ll only have a few scrap/interior adjustments to make for my next modpack update:
StarlancerZero, Ooblterra, and all 13 of Wesley’s Moons:

[hard lichen]

This does just uses the LLL config, right? It doesn't have it's own?

It seems like the Manual Level Names List is not working in the LLL config, so you cannot add the interior to other moons 😦

[grim bridge]

currently yes, i've noticed there are some problems with LLL's config and im not sure if its to do with me or LLL

[hard lichen]

I can try helping if you want, mind if I dm you?

I made the config for teraspace and black mesa

[grim bridge]

sure, just be aware im not working on it right at this moment

[hard lichen]

That's all good I just got some questions

[placid prism]

What's the config file called for this one? I wanted to make sure only the Ooblterra interior would spawn on the map, unless you guys already set it up to ensure that with other modded interiors installed?

[stone siren]

It’s in LLL config

but should already be set to only the Oobl interior

[hard lichen]

There is definitely a problem with the LLL config with this. It currently works only on Ooblterra the moon, but you cannot put it on other moons. The issue will be fixed soon

[polar verge]

when selene's choice came out I added like 22 new moons

since that mod made it easier to keep track of that many

[solemn raven]

Just looked it up— I’ll probably look into that for the pack

One thing that’d be neat would be if you could like limit moons by quota

Only Easy moons on quota 1

You unlock Intermediate on quota 2

You unlock Hard on quota 3

[polar verge]

you could reccomend that in their thread, I was about to reccomend having a setting for custom thresholds for like have 3 moon that are 100-400 and 2 moons from 400-800

[grim bridge]

be wary an issue has been flagged with LLL's config in particular

one that we'll work on fixing in time for the first patch on friday

(batby if youre reading this, it's my fault not yours dont worry homie)

but yes Oobl Lab should be exclusive to Ooblterra by default

and vice versa

[hard lichen]

The problem should be isolated to the Manual Planet Name List so using any other setting in the LLL config should, in theory, work

[tropic spear]

i cant find any ooblotera themed loot

and its really scarcely spawned

[grim bridge]

whats your mod setup like?

[ancient depot]

I've had this installed for a year and never played it

I will now

Probably next week it's skyrocketed on my list thanks for the reccomend

[tropic spear]

is there an easy way to copy the whole mod list into the clipboard from thunderstore? 😭

[wooden bobcat]

settings > help > show dependency strings, but better put it in a txt to avoid wall of text

[past venture]

does ooblterra have any outside enemies other than ||the wanderers and the adult wanderers?||

[grim bridge]

yes, ||ghost players as well||

more to come in future updates

[past venture]

very nice

[grim bridge]

ty very much

[tropic spear]

i kept finding weird stuff as a wrench which i dont even know where its from 😭

[grim bridge]

other question I had for you, I assume you were finding all custom scrap on ooblterra? In other words, the scrap wasnt from vanilla

[past venture]

immersive scrap

[tropic spear]

on a second thought, i remembered that the only ooblotera scrap i saw was the ooblotera key but the loot spawning was still extremely scarce for me and even a team of 4 people couldnt make back the routing cost in one quota

[grim bridge]

thats odd, Ooblterra's scrap spawns should be pretty plentiful

I imagine the problem might be most of ooblterra's higher value scrap being replaced with modded lower value scrap

my philosophy was "if you have a custom enemy, you want to play with that custom enemy, so it makes no sense to remove it from ooblterra" but now im revisiting that idea

[past venture]

would it be possible to move the ooblterra poster as to not replace a vanilla poster

[grim bridge]

maybe Ooblterra should resist new content

[grim bridge]

I could look into making it a ship decoration in a future release down the line, actually

a free one that's always in the shop

[past venture]

ooblterra not having other content by default (but still being able to add it to ooblterra if you so choose on your own) would be good i think

[grim bridge]

yeah exactly. resist it by default but then allow it if you specifically ask in the config

leave it up to democracy

[noble yacht]

Shoot it’s out?

🔥🔥

[past venture]

if the oobl lab is put on a different moon, will all the mechanics and traps and stuff still work?

[hard lichen]

Right now oobl can't be put on a different moon. It'll be fixed soon

[past venture]

ah

[celest shadow]

bit late to the party but grats on your 1.0 release :)

[past venture]

oh my goodness the dropship pillar is still there?

[grim bridge]

yeah honestly I kinda just overlooked it and the ||ship platform||

I am ||most likely gonna remove the ship platform next update but I honestly dont know about the dropship pillar. feels too much like a notable landmark||

[dull ore]

remove it entirely?

[grim bridge]

yeah, the ||ship will just land on the ground now||

players seem overwhelmingly to have found it more annoying than tense, especially because monsters can't follow you up there

[dull ore]

fair nuf

[grim bridge]

Next update will also fix the issue with putting Oobl Lab on other moons via the moon's planet name in LLL's config

you can also change the route price in case you wanna go to ooblterra immediately

[dull ore]

i wonder if we could make the scrap price based on the route price number

[hard lichen]

Probably could be done via code

[grim bridge]

in theory it really wouldn't be that hard, just a matter of patching GrabbableObject.Start() and multiplying the scrap's value by a percentage

idk if it's something I particularly wanna do, I feel like if players wanna lower the route price all it should do it is lower the route price

I guess I could always leave it up to a config setting

"DynamicScrapValue" or some such

since im already adding one to turn the suits off

[hard lichen]

Yeah I think a config would be best for that. Settings should do what people expect them to do

[grim bridge]

exactly, yeah

[dull ore]

i personally believe that games should be hostile to the player in all manners possible but I do see that

[grim bridge]

^ this here is why you're making models and not design decisions

[dull ore]

hey be fair, I did the level design for the outdoor area

[grim bridge]

why would I ever be fair to you, lazarus

[dull ore]

i take great joy in forcing the players to do janky parkour to get the fire exit

[grim bridge]

no yeah to be fair i think that was a pretty smart play

[dull ore]

genuinely i think having it be jank is better than it feeling purposeful

it makes it feel like you tricked the game, like it's a tech

[dull ore]

(in this particular spot)

[grim bridge]

well good job giving away that it was purposeful. -2

[dull ore]

its over...

[civic salmon]

I just can not make the interior spawn anywhere. I already disabled every other interior mod and put this into the LLL config for the Oobl laboratory section but it just won't spawn. Any ideas?

there's always the vanilla facility spawning

[hard lichen]

It's a current bug, will be fixed in the next update

Literally like 10-15 messages above #1182523433221902376 message

[civic salmon]

oopsi and thank you for the heads up! will wait patiently

[prime reef]

can I now add vanilla enemies?

[hard lichen]

You should be able to add them to the moon itself I think

[tight delta]

I just noticed it released we so back

[queen pasture]

so some scrap is spawning inside impossible to reach places

[wooden bobcat]

Sorry if this was already asked, but will there be an option to turn added suits on/off?

[dull ore]

Yes

[grim bridge]

ive tried an awful lot of things to fix this and have had no luck

if any mod devs know what causes this I'd gladly patch it up but no amount of navmesh obstacles seems to work sadly

[zenith nebula]

Best bet is to make sure the model has no unseen areas on the ground faces

[grim bridge]

is that really it? that sucks

[zenith nebula]

Like if that tile bit is one plane it should be divided into multiple with each area covering explicitly only what's walkable

[grim bridge]

theres some other areas in the interior where scrap spawns out of bounds but its like. those areas would look bad if there wasnt a floor lmao

[dull ore]

Oh shit that sounds like a job for me

No fucking shot it gets done lmao

[zenith nebula]

In that case just making sure there's not a scrap spawn nearby that has a radius which reaches the inaccessible area should be enough

[grim bridge]

that also really sucks

[zenith nebula]

You can use copy spawn location or multiple really low radius spawns if you still want stuff close to an area where they might spawn OOB

[grim bridge]

thats what ill try doing then

[zenith nebula]

Scrap spawns are pretty scuffed in the game in general though, extremely fickle

[grim bridge]

god, what isnt

[zenith nebula]

Moons are pretty scuff free I guess, everything else has some level of jank

[prime reef]

idk but this mod gives me terarria vibes!

which is a good thing!

[grim bridge]

Welcome to Ooblterra! v1.0.0

(new version coming very soon)

[jade monolith]

:0

[hard lichen]

I'd just make the scrap spawns for that tile have no range, they should only spawn where the node is then

[grim bridge]

yeah, that's the plan

[hard lichen]

Black Mesa does that for every scrap😂

[grim bridge]

I assume given how scrap works, even if these spawn points are in the air, it should drop them to the ground once the round starts

I assume that's what all those "distance to ground" log prints I keep seeing are about

[hard lichen]

I can confirm it does. We were having issues where scrap would fall through tables. The only thing that still does it for us is the lamps, they seem a bit janky

[hard lichen]

Not sure what that is, got an example log?

[grim bridge]

nah it's been ages since I've got any of them and they never gave me a problem so I just kinda ignored them

if it comes up any time soon I'll post it

[hard lichen]

All scrap spawns on Black Mesa are a little raised off whatever surface the node is on, that should be fine

[lean iron]

I ran into issue where I cant go on company building while using Ooblterra mod, is this a known bug or is it just me?

[grim bridge]

this is an LLL v1.2.2 issue; check the known issues section on the top pin

the next release of WTO will have terminalformatter as a dependency to circumvent this, but for now just download it manually or downgrade to LLL v1.2.1

[lean iron]

alright it works thanks

[kindred saddle]

Lamps also just fall through the ship on exiting and reloading save files sometimes

It's awesome

[hard lichen]

There's a couple mods that fix items falling through the ship, haven't had any issues with that since using one of those

[chrome valve]

put a ignore navmesh there then

[grim bridge]

tried that ages ago it didnt work

[shut willow]

yoo been a while since ive been active in the server

congrats on the release

🔥🔥🔥

[zenith nebula]

the way it works internally is that it samples a random point in the radius and snaps it to the closest navmesh position to that point

[grim bridge]

what does it do if there isnt one, out of interest?

[zenith nebula]

actually not sure, haven't tested

[grim bridge]

I put a good few of mine up in midair assuming itd just drop the scrap down

[zenith nebula]

I think the navmesh sampling isn't bounded by range, so it'll just find whatever the closest navmesh point is regardless of radius

[grim bridge]

oh huh

interesting

[fluid stream]

why is there so many track suits lol

this moon looks sick even tho its gonna take me 5 years to get 1200 credits

[grim bridge]

you can always lower Ooblterra's route price via the config if you really wanna go there that badly

[fluid stream]

nah its fine

ive gotten to like 700 in like the first quota b4 just gotta save up

[grim bridge]

fair enough

get your fill in now im gonna ||make it even higher next version||

also try to sell a little over quota so you can come prepared :)

[raw nimbus]

does spawning ooblterra mobs on other moons work? i was thinking it would be fun to add some events to my brutal company minus config to have them occasionally spawn

[grim bridge]

every monster except Baby Lurkers can be added to another moon's config in its enemy spawn sections

well. technically you can add baby lurkers. but itll only spawn in 1

their egg which spawns a group of them is registered as a map hazard. I will need to do additional config work to let you move those to and from ooblterra

[past venture]

if you set a moon to have the oobl lab, will it have the baby lurker eggs?

[grim bridge]

not right now, but a config option for that will be included in the next release after this one

speaking of this release:

Welcome to Ooblterra Release Version [1.0.5]

On Balance...

CHANGED

• Several lights in the Laboratory will now be turned off ||and can only be turned back on via powering the Machine||
• Bear Traps now make a sound when closing
• Bear Traps can now be hit with a shovel to make them retract without stepping on them
• Bear Traps spawn in faster
• Raised Ooblterra Route Price from 1200 --> 1700 for sake of balance
• Baby Lurkers are now better at hitting the player
• Gallenarma now counterattack much faster, and are thus harder to kill with Shovels/56 Shovels
• Reduced maximum number of Baby Lurker Eggs
• One-handed scrap should now be significantly more common than Two-handed scrap
• Outside monsters spawn in a bit faster
• The fog now takes a bit more time to become fully blinding
• Charged Batteries are now worth 200 credits (down from 800)

FIXED

• Fixed a bug where Frankenstein Rooms would not allow any player to pull the lever except the one who placed the body on the bed
• Fixed a bug where Frankenstein Rooms would ||spawn the WTOMimic outside when the revive is failed||
• Scrap spawns are now more consistent and it should be impossible for it to spawn out-of-bounds
• Fixed an issue with LLL config for the Oobl Laboratory where the manual planet name would not work
• The Oobl Lab now has vanilla hazard spawns configured in case players want to use it on a moon with vanilla hazards (vanilla hazards should not show up on Ooblterra)
• Fixed visual bug where Item Dropship would drop its equipment in midair

REMOVED

• The Autopilot Ship no longer lands on a platform and instead lands directly on the ground
  • This allows several of the outside enemy types to get inside your ship :)

KNOWN ISSUES

• Players may still be able to walk out-of-bounds of the moon
• Enemy bestiary logs need to be accessed as one word (for example, babylurkeregg instead of Baby Lurker Egg)
• __ skipped because it does not allow read access is spammed in the log on landing (this will have no adverse effects on the game)
• Gallenarma and Baby Lurkers sometimes get stuck and will not chase players
• Enabling LLL's moon config for Ooblterra will cause the moon to spawn only Shovels instead of scrap for some reason. (A workaround or fix for this is being investigated and will be included in the next version)
• Enemies can't chase you onto tables and desks (A fix for this will be included in the next version)
• Time of Day music will sometimes just not play (Currently being investigated)

MOD INCOMPATABILITIES

• LethalPipeRemoval (will only cause issues if you enable poster removal)
• ImmersiveScrap (works, but will override much of Ooblterra's scrap with its own)
• LethalClimbers

This update along with future ones can be found on:
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Skeleton_Studios/Welcome_To_Ooblterra/ . Please allow several minutes for Thunderstore/R2ModManager to update its list.

In the next version, we plan to add a config for WTO that changes features such as editing the Map Hazard spawns, binding enemies/hazards/scrap to the interior of the moon, scaling scrap value based on route price, disabling suits, and more. We hope to get that one to you within the next week, so stay tuned.

Welcome to Ooblterra! v1.0.5

[solar tinsel]

Nice. Btw can you please nerf the battery? Guranteed 800 is just too good. Or atleast give us a config

[grim bridge]

OH

[solar tinsel]

Wait... dont tell me - you wanted to change it to a lower value but... forgot?

[grim bridge]

no, I just forgot to put it in the patch notes

that should already be tweaked as of v1.0.5

[past venture]

disablign suites

[grim bridge]

oh my god

shhh you didnt see that

[dusty niche]

@past abyss time to fix compat sir

[azure falcon]

from what I understand, as long as you turn off that config setting, WeatherTweaks will work fine

oh hi this is still skull I forgot im on my work alt rn

Im pretty sure there's also a config one can disable to make LethalPipeRemoval work, i think it was the poster one?

lemme double check

[past abyss]

what is happening

[dusty niche]

Mrov really cares about that config setting though

[past abyss]

i mean - it's not guaranteed to work

[dusty niche]

Your Sun Animator Patch needs compat for Ooblterra

[azure falcon]

WeatherTweaks gets mad when you route to ooblterra because I swap the sun animator with one that animates the fog on the moon. That's how it gets thicker as the day goes by

[dusty niche]

Yes but you begged me to turn it back on after you said you fixed compat for Rosie's secret moon

lol

[past abyss]

👀

hmmm

[hard lichen]

Is that only in BetaWeatherTweaks? I can't find it in my config🧑‍🦯

[azure falcon]

I can send you the exact code and discuss it further in dms or here if youd like, I dont mind

[dusty niche]

Yeah only the beta version

[past abyss]

yes

[azure falcon]

I was planning to eventually reach out to most of the mod devs for whatever incompatability got flagged

[past abyss]

please 🙏

[dusty niche]

Which why are you not using the Beta version? XD

[hard lichen]

Ah, welp I guess you should fix that in your post Skull

[past abyss]

I'll try to get it checked tomorrow

[dusty niche]

You're gonna make Mrov cry

lol

[hard lichen]

Because of issues like this, I like my pack being incredibly stable if I can do it

[dusty niche]

BetaWeatherTweaks is stable so long as that config option is always disabled tbh

But it hurts Mrov's fefe's when you turn it off

lol

So I guess you gotta decide where your priorities lie

😂

@past abyss is a very sensitive man but we all love him c;

[past abyss]

what does that have to do with anything

[dusty niche]

Idk c;

[past abyss]

🥲

[hard lichen]

I might try it out then, didn't know all the issues were caused by a single config setting every time I hear about it. Tho I'd probably turn that setting off for now, sorry mrov 😦

[past abyss]

understandable

it's there so I can test what's not working and fix it 😆

[fallen cliff]

i still cant get this mod to work, it just wont load and with it enables it bricks my entire modpack because i cant land the ship on any moon

[hard lichen]

You have BetaWeatherTweaks? if so, you need to set SunAnimatorPatch to false

[fallen cliff]

no and i did test this without piperemover and normal weathertweaks

this mod didnt work on release either and i reported it then

[grim bridge]

it seems lethalthings is dumping a bunch of errors? try without that maybe

it seems like the same issue as before; something is loading WTO's assetbundles before WTO can

LCAPI used to do this but you said you dont have that

[fallen cliff]

lethalthings does that when something else is causing the error, it probably not that one, more people would have same issues as well since it a popular mod

[grim bridge]

this may be obvious but if you know how to access the mod's folder, do make sure the assetbundles are actually in there

[fallen cliff]

do you mean the LC folder or profile folder?

[grim bridge]

the profile folder, specifically inside the folder labelled Skeleton-Studios_Welcome-To-Ooblterra

[fallen cliff]

yeah its there

[grim bridge]

do you have any other mods that might disable the ship posters?

besides lethalpiperemoval

[fallen cliff]

i do not

[grim bridge]

id love to help any further but im not at my pc till way later

[fallen cliff]

ill send my profile code and modlist, its late here so ill be offline for a while, i appreciate the help

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ill try to troubleshoot myself tomorrow and see which mod it might be conflicting with

[zinc pagoda]

following in hopes that this bug gets fixed. the moon looks interesting enough for me to make a little "wesified" icon of, but if i cant even reach it, then i lack the motivation to do so

[unique spire]

What are the difference between maked and Ghost player?

[dull ore]

i believe there is no difference beyond visuals

[unique spire]

I Need a guide for all this enemies ahah

[grim bridge]

multiple people have asked at this point so ill try putting wiki entries for em on the thunderstore page

but yes, differences are purely visual

[azure falcon]

https://youtu.be/J3q3sF2Y0Jk

:))))))

[solid sentinel]

Ooo

[dull ore]

oh holy shit

[ancient depot]

Just played a bit of this today. Fucking loved it.

[grim bridge]

@fallen cliff @zinc pagoda confirmed: this is an issue with LethalClimbers

I can try to reach out to the dev at some point but for now your only solution is probably to disable it. I'm not quite sure why it's loading my assetbundles before WTO can but I don't know if there's much I can do about that on my end

[zinc pagoda]

right... right... dont have.

[pure marsh]

Is it possible to disable the suits in the mod? Because I saw there is a few too many suits because of it

[fallen cliff]

Thanks for finding out!

[fallen cliff]

whats the issue with piperemover btw, do you need it disabled?

[grim bridge]

no, just make sure the poster removal isnt checked on

[grim bridge]

this will be included in WTO's config in the next release

[grim bridge]

which bug were you having that needed to be fixed then? I assumed it was the same as the one you posted under

[zinc pagoda]

being unable to land anywhere. thing is, i dont have LethalClimbers installed

[grim bridge]

send me your profile code and latest bepinex log

do you have either of the other known incompatible mods? if so, make sure to tweak their configs

[azure falcon]

oh right whoops

[grim bridge]

hrm

[zinc pagoda]

there are others? also, away from computer for a good while today so code will have to wait

[grim bridge]

well that sucks ill do it on my pc I guess

[zinc pagoda]

so what were the other incompatible mods?

[grim bridge]

MOD INCOMPATABILITIES

• LethalPipeRemoval (will only cause issues if you enable poster removal)
• ImmersiveScrap (works, but will override much of Ooblterra's scrap with its own)
• LethalClimbers

[zinc pagoda]

LPR it is.
also have ImmersiveScrap, but i aint worried about scrap loss

[jade monolith]

ah shit, I just readded immersive scrap to my modpack too

that's a rip

[grim bridge]

just disable the poster removal feature for LPR, in the next release of WTO it should work completely fine either way

another thing im looking to do on next release is add a config option that makes it so that the oobl lab by default only spawns its own scrap no matter what, unless you change that config option, so that shouldnt be an issue for long either

[zinc pagoda]

aye aye. thanks for yer help. hope i have time to test before i play with my crew tonight

[grim bridge]

v1.1.0 should be out within the week :)

[jade monolith]

is there any specific scap I need to disable in immersive scrap for yours to spawn correctly?

just need to make my pack as bug-free as possible for my friends

[grim bridge]

No, its nothing to do with any one specific scrap, just that immersivescrap adds all its new ones to the pool for all moons and they seem to crowd out ooblterra's own custom scrap sadly

[jade monolith]

ah that's unfortunate

ill disable immersive scrap for now I guess

[past abyss]

a small note: only beta version has the issue

[grim bridge]

oh, alright

[past abyss]

😇

[past venture]

BetaWeatherTweaks (circumvented by using BetaWeatherTweaks

[past abyss]

it's fixed already 🥺

[boreal mortar]

I seem to be having issues with the TogglePersonalScanner mod, as with Ooblterra installed, any moon I go to and leave seems to break functionality with this mod enabled. It could be another mod, but I had installed this mod at the same time as well and I had disabled the earlier mod and it still happened.

[noble cliff]

whats the config called for this mod
i cant seem to find it

[stone siren]

doesn't exist yet

LLL config if you want to change interior, moon things n' stuff

[noble cliff]

ah alright thnak you

[past venture]

||out of all the ooblterra enemies, oobl ghost has to be my favorite. it's terrifying. i just wish it had an actual animation for when it attacked you because just having the model sit on top of you while you get slowly damaged is odd||

[grim bridge]

im honestly surprised your favorite isn't ||the enforcer. him chasing you around while invisible was partially inspired by that dream you had||

[past venture]

||i'll have to look at enforcer more, i haven't seen everything too much. oobl ghost is definitely the most terrifying though||

[grim bridge]

either way, it scaring you at all is what counts

feedback noted on that Oobl Ghost thing though - we very nearly changed his animation for when he chased after you, but im not really sure what we'd make him do for when he attacks

[dull ore]

it should proooly at least float in the front of the player instead of inside it

[grim bridge]

he is fundamentally snake-like, maybe he could coil around you like a python. but then itd probably look award for him to go back and forth in and out of that state

[past venture]

yeah\

[grim bridge]

the problem with this is that the way the ghost is designed, ||perfect play with him is to keep yourself in a sort of goldilocks zone where you aren't taking damage but you also aren't too far away and the radio interefence is still being processed ||

||that goldilocks zone is when the ghost is in front of (or behind) the player instead of standing on top of him||

so idk what I'd replace that with

[dull ore]

maybe something like this?

[past venture]

maybe ||it becomes mostly transparent when on top of you but a ghosty visual effect is placed on your screen||

[dull ore]

that could also work, would be p lightweight as well

[grim bridge]

||as in, a repeating animation of it stabbing its tail into you?||

[dull ore]

yeah

tho honestly their idea sounds a lot easier to do lol

[grim bridge]

problem with that is that making the ghost transparent is already what happens when you dissipate it, and I don't wanna get those wires crossed either

[dull ore]

presumably it'd only be less transparent for the player being attacked

[past venture]

just the visual effect then to obscure it

[dull ore]

who would have the screen overlay so there would be no confusion

also whatever we go with we can prolly get some benefit from just moving the origin to the head as well

will probably look less silly even without any major changes

[grim bridge]

that's also a gameplay decision to consider because having the origin be in the center means it takes the player more time to escape the danger radius while being attacked

whereas if the origin is in the head you can escape the damage radius instantly when running forward

[dull ore]

can the hitboxes be messed with on that front?

[grim bridge]

I don't wanna have the hitbox in a place that doesn't match visiually, though

[past venture]

maybe the damage radius is moved to the head aswell? but that might be confusing beca

yeah

i think the visual effect is the best idea

[grim bridge]

all I have to do is figure out unity ui stuff 🙃

[past venture]

alternatively put a clientside sphere of shader around the player's head

[dull ore]

while we're suggesting changes, maybe some visual feedback for the walkies affecting the ghosts is in order

[grim bridge]

I don't immediately agree I think not knowing makes the situation more chaotic

[obtuse raptor]

It’s very chill dw

just avoid layoutgroups & animators

[dull ore]

maybe, but it does make learning the effective radius nigh impossible. Someone may also try the walkies and then determine it doesn't work if there's no feedback

[grim bridge]

this is entirely in line with normal LC in all fairness

it's seemed pretty consistent based on reports that ive recieved from players that once they actually read the ghost's terminal entry, they pretty quickly figure out how to work with him

[dull ore]

fair nuf

[zinc pagoda]

hope you dont mind, but heavily referenced your icon for this moon's "Wesification"

[grim bridge]

hell yeah welcome to ooblterra fanart :)

[zinc pagoda]

and a bit of feedback from @dusty niche, make the outdoor squishing step sounds a config option XD

[grim bridge]

if you're uncomfortable, good

[zinc pagoda]

im fine

[grim bridge]

though I'll maybe let you turn them down a little bit

thank you for the art though it looks cool :)

[zinc pagoda]

any moon that falls within my preferences (unique, not from another franchise, and in at least a singleplayer friendly state) gets an icon. only exception is Secret Labs

oh and it has to look good

[grim bridge]

oh I hate to tell you this now Ooblterra is indeed from another franchise

we made it though if that gives us back any points

[zinc pagoda]

what franchise

[grim bridge]

On Your Hands

[zinc pagoda]

well ive come this far already. exception made

[grim bridge]

this project originally started cuz everyone in the studio fell in love with lethal company when it first came out and wishfully joked about ooblterra being added as a place you could go

[zinc pagoda]

good nuff. welcome to the moon catalogue

[grim bridge]

hell yeah

[past venture]

i should play on your hands sometime

[boreal mortar]

While you're around, @grim bridge, did you see my message about how WTO seems to (potentially) break TogglePersonalScanner?

[grim bridge]

OH

let me go check that out right now

[boreal mortar]

Again, it might not be you, it could be because of another mod I also got (LethalPipeRemover with LethalConfig), and TogglePersonalScanner hasn't been updated since late March (pre-v50), but still

I did hear LethalPipeRemover was conflicting with his mod before

[grim bridge]

just added it to my (more lightweight) pack, I landed on Ooblterra, went back into orbit, and then landed again. Had no issues, though

LethalPipeRemover will throw up an issue if you enable the option that removes posters

[boreal mortar]

I saw them in the ship, so that shouldn't be enabled

Wait...

I checked my config just now and that actually was set to true.

How the hell am I seeing the posters anyway?

[grim bridge]

everyone's configs have to agree or else configs get messed up

[boreal mortar]

I'm solo, for one

And two, did you go and land on another planet and try using the scanner?

Cause it works for one planet, but then stops working for the next

[grim bridge]

I'll try routing to a different one

to be clear, the problem is with the scanner not working anymore, but nothing else breaks?

[boreal mortar]

Well, the scanner works, but it can't be toggled, it goes back to its original function (must be used by right-clicking each time), but yes, nothing else appears to break.

[grim bridge]

tested by routing to ooblterra, then experimentation, then assurance, worked all 3 times

[boreal mortar]

Huh, alright.

Wonder what's wrong with my pack then... it is an atrociously big pack though, so it could be any number of things

[boreal mortar]

I think I might've found the culprit actually, it could be HotbarPlus or ReservedItemSlots. One of those two, those had also updated in tandem recently as well

[grim bridge]

them causing issues with WTO, or TPS?

[boreal mortar]

TPS, WTO should be just fine

And it was exactly HBP, as people were reporting similar issues with "hold to scan" mods, with is pretty much identical mine, minus the holding.

The dev is aware and will be hotfixing that. Sorry for the confusion

[grim bridge]

no worries

[ancient depot]

This is the only config option I really care about besides adding the interior to other moons

[indigo sapphire]

This mod is amazing!

[fallen cliff]

any way to disable the additional suits?

[dusty niche]

Not yet, it will be an option soon

[fallen cliff]

alright cool, thanks

[split sierra]

@grim bridge
Is there a Wanderer or baby Lurker enemy in Ooblterra?

[grim bridge]

both are from ooblterra, yeah

[split sierra]

Are they the same entity or separate entities?

[grim bridge]

theyre seperate

[split sierra]

It seems like the Baby Lurker may have the same Scan Node and Lore entry as the Wanderer.

[grim bridge]

OH

when I make a new enemy I normally just copy the wanderer and swap around the mesh, etc as needed

I didnt change the scan node for the baby lurkers because you don't scan them, you scan the egg they come out of

so it probably does indeed still have the name and ID of the wanderer

I assume thats causing some sort of issues?

[split sierra]

Ahh I see. Some programs that manage entities show this problem and list it incorrectly

I use Lethal Quantities and it lists it under Wanderer.

[grim bridge]

understood. should be pretty trivial to change that for the next release

[unique spire]

Are you planning to add more things in future?

[grim bridge]

within the week I'm going to release 1.1.0, which will predominantly add a whole host of config options

but yes, new features such as equipment, weather, and enemies are planned for later down the line

[jade monolith]

nice!

[rapid pagoda]

Hi !
I'm looking for config options
Where can I find them for Ooblterra mod ?

[grim bridge]

right now WTO doesn't have its own unique config settings; we're adding those in the new update coming within the week, but for now try checking LLL's config settings for 523 Ooblterra and Oobl Laboratory

what are you trying to change?

[rapid pagoda]

Just wanna see what is configurable
Thanks for your answer ❤️

[austere lotus]

Greetings just wanna say this is an amazing mod, really been loving it exploring it solo and with friends
and im looking forward to more updates and changes!

however on a recent update, i cant help but feel things got...well foggier? (i uploaded an image)
i get its an LC aesthetic for things to be dark and foggy, but one of the things i liked about WTO
is that it wasnt like that, i could easily see all the weird textures and lovely pixel art
it felt like i was on a different game thats refreshing and scary!

BUT maybe im wrong, maybe its one of my mods causing it to be this foggy for some reason?
i'll run some test, but just really wanted to congratulate you guys and the team on such an awesome project!

[grim bridge]

523 Ooblterra is designed to get foggier as the day progresses... but it definitely shouldn't be this bad at 9am

you say recent update... was this between 1.0 and 1.0.5? or did you play the beta versions?

[zinc pagoda]

so map says some pathways are available.
the pathways:
https://i.gyazo.com/77097b8efb20688c128348749bcf2994.png

https://i.gyazo.com/2ec581e752c9d5c631a729c7b628deea.png

[grim bridge]

this is a quirk of how this tile generates

by default this tile has all 4 pathways accessible, but I during development added some blockers becuase it was annoying to go all the way down the hallway and find nothing

those blockers extend pretty far out, but, unfortunately, do not seem to register on the minimap

[austere lotus]

This screenshot was taken while using the 1.0.5 version

[grim bridge]

what version were you on previously? I may have changed the way the fog works between the last beta and now

certainly not between 1.0 and 1.0.5 though

[austere lotus]

that i sadly dont remember, i constantly update mods the moment i see r2modman notice
so im not sure what version was my first experience of WTO
i know i downloaded it ever since i saw that really nice trailer uploaded to youtube

[old saddle]

Battery on what item?

[grim bridge]

definitely 1.0 then

strange. might indeed be another mod

did you test with ooblterra on its own?

[austere lotus]

i will actually! just to make sure its not a mod causing this fog
just waiting to get back home hehe

[austere lotus]

Finally home! ok so i made a new profile, only downloaded WTO and General Improvements (to give me 3k credits) and its still very foggy upon landing
just out of curiosity i ran the game again with G-Improvements disabled and still foggy
downloaded version WTO 1.0.0 and ran the game, still foggy...

em i going crazy?
maybe funny enough my previous profile mods Reduced fog?
if this is intended i'll respect it! after all im just nitpicky about fog hehe

[grim bridge]

I would ask you to compare it to the youtube trailer but the bitrate makes it a bit difficult to tell

its possible thats what you were having though. see if the fog gets thicker as the day progresses, it should

[dull ore]

Tbh this fog just about matches my experience too

[grim bridge]

I know my monitor looks different from everyone elses so

maybe it was just a mod reducing it back in 1.0. especially if you went back and redownloaded it

[austere lotus]

nope you are totally right, i watched the trailer and theres the fog :3
huh guess i am going crazy!
that 1st experience of WTO had me all sparkled eye so much it distorted my perception
of it on the next time i played it lol

sorry for bothering then! most likely i simply had a mod that reduced the fog
thank you so much for responding, you guys are amazing

[grim bridge]

no worries, glad to hear youre enjoying the mod :)

[dull ore]

Dw I am also very [normal] about all my model and texture work being obscured by fog 😁

[grim bridge]

hey laz ill make you a deal. redo the terrain mesh to be bigger and ill reduce the fog

[dull ore]

I'm joking I like the fog lol

I'd prefer that over the terrain being bigger even tbh

[grim bridge]

yeah I wasnt gonna reduce the fog either

[dull ore]

LMAO

[grim bridge]

its been a bit controversial but im overall happy with it getting thicker as the day progresses

makes everything past 6pm a fuckin trip it seems

[dull ore]

If we ever do a second moon tho I'll make it bigger

[grim bridge]

if we ever do a second moon I'd have to come up with some new wacky gimmick(s) for it

maybe that key and button idea we keep throwing around

[dull ore]

The huh

[grim bridge]

im not telling you it in public thats potential spoilers

[dull ore]

Tell me in private then

[grim bridge]

im not telling you in private im lazy

[dull ore]

No I'm lazzy

[grim bridge]

-2

[dull ore]

My bad

[zenith nebula]

Underwater moon based on the thalassophobia chapter

[grim bridge]

one of my friends would kill me

[dull ore]

Goes hard tho

BUGELFISH

[grim bridge]

ive never actually been to... whats it called. the v50 moon thats in the game but not accessible without mods

Liquidation

ok well I being it up because I remember hearing someone say the gimmick was that it was underwater

[zenith nebula]

Nobody can go to it cuz it doesn't exist

[grim bridge]

but apparently you cant even land on it

yeah

I was gonna say "I dont want zeekers to do my idea after I do it again like with the crushers" but who knows whether he's actually doing that

[polar verge]

reminded me what ever happened to hadal labs(if you know that mod)

[indigo sapphire]

Honestly if I were to change one thing about the interior, it's the amount of red being used.

[grim bridge]

well... strictly speaking, you can change that...

[zenith nebula]

It's a bit up in the air, worked on it a bit but devs behind it are pretty busy

[polar verge]

ah fair

[zenith nebula]

I'd like to do a new interior if someone else does the modelling

[indigo sapphire]

Honestly, I haven't explored the configs or gone in depth with the interior so fair enough. Keep dying to that ghost thing cause it's ruthless

[grim bridge]

the configs arent how you change it

regarding the ghost, did you read his terminal entry? should help figure out how to deal with it if you havent

[indigo sapphire]

Yeah I know. A bit of a skill issue on my end. Been going in blind.

[grim bridge]

ahh fair enough

I do genuinely wish there were some sort of way to make it obvious like, intuitively how you defeat the ghost

but its a bit esoteric to begin with

[indigo sapphire]

The planet itself gives me a PS1 era game level.

[grim bridge]

thats about what we went for, Quake in specific was a big inspiration for me. though obviously with a way broader color palatte

[dull ore]

For me half life 1/black mesa was the biggest pulls.

[grim bridge]

^

lots of xen too yep

[dull ore]

Pikmin as well motivated a lot of the creature design

Gallenarmas in particular are p inspired off Mamutas

[tropic spear]

how did you get so many slots?

[zinc pagoda]

hotbarplus and reserveditemslots

[past venture]

how did you get the ||ghost player to work? i've tried making a variant of masked without the mask in question, but if i touch the mask it ends up breaking the kill animation so they just hold the player in place forever||

[grim bridge]

I had this exact same bug happen; I just set the mesh filter to 'none' on both versions

kept the mesh renderer material the same

[past venture]

excellent, thank you

[grim bridge]

actually, I unchecked "mesh renderer" on the 'eyesfilled' object

[stable walrus]

How do you avoid ||ghost leviathan lookin thing||

[grim bridge]

check the terminal entry?

[stable walrus]

Didnt know there was one, we played for hours and was unable to scan it, but were able to scan the other enemies, probably due to one of my other mods

[grim bridge]

you indeed can't scan it, the first time it attacks on a save file you will automatically receive its terminal data

[stable walrus]

alright I just didnt check the terminal my bad

[grim bridge]

all players get the "new creature data added to terminal" notif at once

all good, this has been a fairly consistent issue so I might change the way that works

[stable walrus]

I play with 120 mods so its hard to keep up with everything

[grim bridge]

fair enough