Welcome to Ooblterra! v2.0.0

[past venture]

advanced company also comes with alot of other things i dont want

[sharp walrus]

you can disable em

[past venture]

i love disabling 500 things to change one thing

[sharp walrus]

but its the most stable lobby mod + has a cosmetics ui + replaces most mods

[sharp walrus]

nah, its just a generally useful tool for most of LC

[past venture]

[sharp walrus]

to cut down on mods i mean

and disabling stuff is easy there

[grim bridge]

only thing is its kind of limiting

you cant really pick and choose when it comes to (non-WTO) modded monsters with that solution

which is why I dont love it

[past venture]

m

[grim bridge]

so true

[woeful shoal]

MoreMonsters, LethalQuanities is an alt I guess you could use but have fun setting up LethalQuanities @past venture

[sharp walrus]

AC,AC,AC…

Joinnnnn usssss

we have mario shoessss

[woeful shoal]

They wont join, they're in the Hall Of Shame xD

[steep sandal]

Anyway to install just the monsters/map?
Bc I somewhat feel like the other parts like the upgraded spray and some other small touches could conflict with other mods we have

[grim bridge]

upgraded spray...?

anyway to be clear mixing and matching isn't currently supported, configuration will be for 1.0

but I also don't know what you mean by upgraded spray, or what those other small touches are. I've went out of my way to make sure content is as segmented to Ooblterra and its ecosystem as possible

[steep sandal]

Thought I saw something about this mod adjusting the spray can and other parts of the game, mb

From what I've seen tho it's coming together great so far

[half moat]

perfecto

[potent pasture]

Isn't the mod finished yet?

[grim bridge]

still in dev, 0.8 coming very soon

[potent pasture]

Is the mod similar to other mods that create new dungeons? such as more moreinteriors, LC_office, ect?

[grim bridge]

Yes, as well as a new interior, WTO features a new moon, new monsters and new scrap items. Coming to 0.8 we'll also have new map hazards and some custom room behaviors

[potent pasture]

how wonderful
I can't wait for him to come out to play

[prime reef]

wait wait

New interior and moon

on the new update?

or full release

[grim bridge]

no no to be clear the interior and moon im referring to are the ones that already exist in the beta build

I was basically just giving a feature rundown

[prime reef]

oh ok

is frankenstien coming in 0.8

[grim bridge]

correct

[prime reef]

nice

ima add it to my 100 mods modpack

[grim bridge]

as well as one other custom room behavior

[prime reef]

oo

[red spear]

Download link?

[grim bridge]

📌

[tardy flower]

johnathan phoopa

https://tenor.com/view/josh-hutcherson-josh-hutcherson-whistle-edit-whistle-2014-meme-gif-1242113167680346055

[red spear]

It is compatible with diversity?

[past venture]

diversity only modifies things that do not spawn on ooblterra

[red spear]

Ok

[sharp walrus]

(and also quicksand/mud fall speed but we dont talk about that 😋 )

[past venture]

quicksand is not on ooblterra

[shut willow]

does ooblterra have any weather

[past venture]

not yet, will have custom weather eventually

[sullen marsh]

Is this beta actually not available yet on Thunderstore?

[shut willow]

no

you have to import it locally

[sullen marsh]

aaa I see, got it, hoping it'll be there soon tho!

[weary oriole]

Where can you download the beta

[shut willow]

pins

[weary oriole]

There isnt any

Nvr mind

New discord mobile still confuses me

[shut willow]

[weary oriole]

Its in settings for some reason

[prime reef]

how is progress going

[grim bridge]

slower than I'd like, but still going

[ornate grove]

https://tenor.com/view/restless-gif-22223711

[fickle magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpsons-talking-gif-17597598

[prime reef]

u think we will get it by next weekend maybe

[grim bridge]

current goal is this weekend but I cant promise nothin

protip for me: I work on valve time lol

[prime reef]

All good man, take ur time

[red spear]

Just outta curiosity will this use LLL or LE?

[obtuse raptor]

LLL

[grim bridge]

working on LLL integration ahead of next update yep

[obtuse raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[grim bridge]

promise ill get back to you on it soon batby 💔

im working on the shiny brand new features but im nearly done

[obtuse raptor]

ive been in the mines anyway

[hollow cedar]

Ooblterra was already using LethalLib so the eventual integration of LLL doesn't surprise me w

[obtuse raptor]

LLL is founded on skullcrusher’s fork of LL

[hollow cedar]

I sees

[zenith nebula]

Surely oobl scrap 914 support :)

[grim bridge]

Oh shit I really should do that

definitely when I implement the custom equipment item

[sharp walrus]

What now?

[grim bridge]

:)

[prime reef]

btw if u ever have the time, do u think u can take screenshots of the new colored lighting

[grim bridge]

oh my god I totally forgot to show it off didn't I

[grim bridge]

consider this a general preview of v0.8, at this point

[prime reef]

holy crap

this looks amazing

not sure if u have heard of "the fiend" creature

but it would go really well with this interior I think

especially the red area

but I love how unique the coloring is in every area

[prime reef]

also if I share a code in thunderstore, will ooblterra also be shared as well?

or do they still need to manually install?>

it does

just tested it

[shut willow]

youll still need to manual install

ive tested it

[prime reef]

u dont

[shut willow]

yes you do dawg

why the fuck would thunderstore save every instance of a local mod being imported on their files

[prime reef]

i just tested it lol

idk but it worked for me

maybe cause I used it on my same r2modman

or something

[shut willow]

its not gonna send over for the others though

[prime reef]

oh

so it only sent for me cause it was in my r2

[grim bridge]

to my knowledge your friend will also need to manually download WTO

[wicked ravine]

yeah adding onto this it not even file sharing copies locally imported mods

[chrome valve]

You do the mod only shows up visually

If the person down import the mod locally after downloading it from github when you try joining it won't work

The way you know if it works is if the person has a image for the mod

[fickle magnet]

bro this is so cool

[prime reef]

are u gonna move it to thunderstore on 1.0?

no chance of adding to thunderstore at 0.8?

[grim bridge]

im considering adding it earlier but we'll see

[prime reef]

alr thx, cause 0.8 seems like a major update

[thick kayak]

This will be dope

[real ivy]

Poggers this be

[hardy siren]

if you do, you'll get a lot more testing

which will make 1.0 take longer, but it'll be a lot more polished

[prime reef]

I really think u should imo

[restive anvil]

id much rather see it polished up and feeling good as much as possible 🙂

[past venture]

if the mod is released on thunderstore before 1.0 then people might complain about known issues alot

[thick kayak]

I would not but thats me

[half moat]

@grim bridge any chance the interior will spawn on other moons (vanilla and modded) and will modded ai work with the interior. Looks amazing. Cant wait for the thunderstore release

[solid jacinth]

I would also rather just wait until it is polished before its release in Thunderstore ngl 👀

[harsh ferry]

everyone's been cookin

[grim bridge]

by default, Ooblterra's ecosystem will be entirely self contained. However once 1.0 releases I plan to let you configure all of this to your liking

[half moat]

oh fuck yeeeee

[grim bridge]

actually, with the move to LLL, you will I think already be able to adjust where Ooblterra spawns? but im not 100% if batby has that exposed to the player yet

anyway I will asterisk and say other custom AI isnt tested but I see no reason why they shouldnt work

[half moat]

tbh im terrified of llls config file lmao, its so much shit im afraid if i fuck smth up ill forget what it was ive fucked

[half moat]

cant wait to try it out, looks awesome

[west folio]

Are the textures going to be updated?

[grim bridge]

some of em may recieve changes to normal mapping/scaling but for the most part the art style remains

0.8 should at very least fix the texel density issues present in older builds. The floor size being different from room to room, etc shouldnt be the case anymore

[past venture]

ooblterra art style my beloved

[grim prawn]

@grim bridge could you put this on thunderstore?

[past venture]

be patient

[alpine locust]

🔫

[past venture]

if you want it right now, manually import it

[grim prawn]

i was talking to the actual mod delevoper

i wanted a potential timeframe it released on thunderstore

etc

[past venture]

it'll go on thunderstore when it's not in beta

[thick kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-lethalcompany-company-lethal-lethal-company-gif-4002836704952403367

[grim bridge]

WTO will be put on thunderstore with its 1.0 release

current ETA is by end of feb but imma keep it a buck we're probably gonna go over that

[grim prawn]

👍

[prime reef]

It being on thundersotr would@be nice

Especially for sending codes to friends and stuff

[harsh saddle]

how come this mod murders like every other enemy

[grim bridge]

Oh lmao to make it easier on the testing side I took the other enemies out of the display list. I didnt expect an end user to ever run into it

[thick kayak]

XD

[grim bridge]

I believe this is actually possible but extremely rare on 0.7.5. Unless its happening literally everytime you go in, then thats a problem

[harsh saddle]

has there been a recent update?

im not sure which version im on

[grim bridge]

oh no, 0.7.5 is latest

[harsh saddle]

k

[grim bridge]

0.8 is coming very soon and should take mansion out of possibility completely

you can check which version you have at the top of your bepinex log

[harsh saddle]

can you concider adding back other monsters so the game isn't just weird name planet monsters and the rolling giant?

[grim bridge]

wait... are vanilla monsters not spawning on vanilla moons?

[harsh saddle]

not that im aware of?

[grim bridge]

thats definitely not intentional

[harsh saddle]

im not too sure though

i haven't really been to other planets besides like 1 with that mod

[grim bridge]

ooblterra should not spawn vanilla monsters. Thats gonna be configurable later but for now it should only be its own custom monsters

vice versa, vanilla planets should never spawn ooblterra monsters

again both of these will be configurable come 1.0's release but for now this is how its set up

[harsh saddle]

k

hey will there be an apparatus in the interior?

[grim bridge]

an equivalent to it

coming in 0.8

[harsh saddle]

does it set off the meltdown if i have that mod

[grim bridge]

not in its current state I'd have to look into how to make that work

given the way our apparatus eqvuialent works, having it set off the meltdown would honestly not be very fun but ill try and provide the option anyway

[quiet sable]

the apparatus is replaced with a model of skullcrusher and if you pull it out he dies in real life

[hybrid badger]

It's just labelled "Life Support" when scanned

[grim bridge]

I would never do this. actually if you pull it out one of my enemies dies in real life

[grim bridge]

its also worth 12 billion credits smile

[harsh saddle]

@grim bridge do you plan on adding other enemies or is it just the few we got?

[thick kayak]

W map btw

[harsh saddle]

indeed

i much perfer kast but this one is impressive

[grim bridge]

Currently Implemented:
Gallenarma
Eye Security
Lurker (will be reworked soon)
Wanderer
||Adult Wanderer||

Planned (Pre 1.0):
Oobl Ghost
Yagulf

Planned (Post 1.0):
Hunter Bot
Enforcer
Grinder

[thick kayak]

So what your saying is W content

[grim bridge]

WTO will ideally be the most feature-complete thing on the market

[spiral walrus]

What did bro mean by this

[spiral walrus]

I do not have the dog in me to work on udv enough to beat you sob

[harsh saddle]

what would the grinder do-

[grim bridge]

||nothing set in stone but the current plan is for him to at first be a mimic scrap. if you try and pick it up he unearths and starts hunting you down||

[spiral walrus]

My time would be better used in game dev or finishing up ror2 mods :)

[harsh saddle]

cool

[spiral walrus]

Oh right we were discussing this right

I had a heart attack reading it for a sec

[harsh saddle]

would their be any way to tell if it's a fake?

[hybrid badger]

Why was noop boiled

[grim bridge]

thats what I have to work out

[quiet sable]

dating app I’m pretty sure

[grim bridge]

maybe when you scan it theres some sort of tell that you need to pay attention for... maybe it scans red instead of green?

[spiral walrus]

Punishment for my crimes

Ask domeguy

[harsh saddle]

maybe you can do what the mimic mod does and have it make a sound when you clobber it with a shovel

[grim bridge]

something that you have ti be paying attention for

[quiet sable]

noop killed people (multiple)

[hybrid badger]

So I get special roles if I kill people?

Seems like a sweet deal

grabs knife

[grim bridge]

In that case why dont I have the role yet

do I need to dm my killin license to a mod

[spiral walrus]

Me

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/970090532980277321/1170418312971288716/ezgif-1-3fc0d2912c.gif?ex=6599917f&is=65871c7f&hm=fd30bef9951c7ee433a29eab4cdf5cb7f24f37094d9834773cfaaa8dd99d9da7&

My friend actually translated every crime on the list

Lemme see if I can go find it

[thick kayak]

Means good content

[spiral walrus]

accused of

1. mass killing
2. forced cannibalism
3. crimes against humanity
4. vandalism
5. cannibalism
6. genocide
7. kidnapping
8. illegal arms trafficking
9. theft
10. fraud
11. production and sale of counterfeit documents
12. drug trafficking
13. piracy
14. corruption
15. trap on the road (dunno what that means, crosswalk thing prob)
16. robbery
17. blackmail
18. political threat
19. car theft
20. rape
21. human trafficking
22. copyright infringement
23. cybercrime
24. sexual violence
25. violation of environmental protection laws
26. organization of fake authorities
27. war crime
28. loss or destruction of evidences
29. tax evasion
30. organizing or participating in a rebellion
31. promotion of terrorist activities (or collaboration with terrorist organizations)
32. following racist or xenophobe views
33. collaboration with a criminal organization
34. human rights violation
35. (not sure here, something like "breach of professional duty")
36. conscription evasion
37. illegal acquisition of confidential information
38. financial misconduct

This cat fuckec up

😭

[grim bridge]

he doesnt flinch at torture, human trafficking, or genocide

[harsh saddle]

maybe have it have like some ambient sound because i doubt anyone would scan every single piece of scrap they find

[spiral walrus]

Mimic things are kinda like

[grim bridge]

I mean tbh I thought itd be too easy because pressing scan is basically second nature

im right clicking like all the fuckin time

[spiral walrus]

A feedback loop imo cause if you don’t make it obvious enough people will be annoyed at its existence

[harsh saddle]

i don't think most people will scan every 5 seconds

[grim bridge]

like with everything ill test and iterate

[harsh saddle]

what if you just had it so that grinders would start dancing to the boombox music

just like stops trying to trick people and have it hit a jig

[grim bridge]

ideally dont want it to be something that requires an item

[harsh saddle]

as an optional thing to identify since having a boombox play 24/7 isn't the best thing to do

[grim bridge]

besides ||Gallenarma are already tamed by the boomboxes||

[obtuse raptor]

I wanna compete with you on this 😛

[grim bridge]

I will actually probably make flashlights a good secondary method for it since that has nice interplay with the Tesla Coils

[harsh saddle]

the grinder thing was just a random idea ngl

[grim bridge]

good luck ive got a hell of a head start

[harsh saddle]

tesla coils?

[grim bridge]

one of the two new map hazards coming in 0.8

[obtuse raptor]

I got one or two things in my back pocket to stunt a little 😜

[grim bridge]

you know what else you have? LLL

[spiral walrus]

Me sitting in my unmotivated corner

[spiral walrus]

This means you should sabotage skull

[grim bridge]

score two on inadvertantly crippling my competition with less-than-perfect tools that they cant help but massively improve

[spiral walrus]

Actually true lol

Got rid of all your competition by pawning off your tools

I’ve like got a dope ass modeler that’s it

[grim bridge]

ok now youve lost me what emotion does this image convey

[harsh saddle]

tesla coil

[grim bridge]

OH

[harsh ferry]

||bro my friend killed a wanderer and an adult one came behind him and he didnt see it i screamed "behind you" and he got 1 tapped lol||

[grim bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-willem-dafoe-duh-duhh-obviously-gif-16794513

[grim bridge]

LMAO great thats exactly the interaction I wanted

though they have since been nerfed to not 1shot you anymore

[harsh ferry]

K lol

[harsh saddle]

what even are those things? they look like blobs of meat.

[grim bridge]

theyre a not-unintelligent species whos curiousity dominates their actions

named wanderers for their tendency to travel great distances over their lifetimes... which are typically pretty short because curiousity is a bad trait for prey animals to have

adulthood is rare but they actually become pretty powerful if they reach it

[harsh saddle]

Ya know is the planet itself an entity?

With the weird meaty texture to it

[grim bridge]

youd be correct

[harsh ferry]

Bro its sound yucky af i always laugh when my friends go on it for the first time

[grim bridge]

the description does literally warn you that the ground is alive

[harsh ferry]

Oh nah 💀

[harsh saddle]

You'd just be scanning and all of the sudden the scanner detects the planet-

[thick kayak]

Hold on so your telling me we are gunna land on a life form?

[grim bridge]

thats exactly what im telling you

[harsh saddle]

What if you added like holes in the planet and those are just how the thing eats

Just like having things fall down them

[thick kayak]

Can you scan the planet?

[kindred saddle]

I like to think the tentacles would grab and pull things under

[grim bridge]

not currently but admittedly its a really funny idea I might make it sometimes come up if you scan on the surface

[thick kayak]

So the acid water

[thick kayak]

Nice

[kindred saddle]

I do think getting a "new creature discovered" popup and having mission control check and just see Ooblterra could be funny

[harsh saddle]

id imagine the holes would have like teeth

[grim bridge]

somewhere between 0.8 and 0.9 ill be implementing something along the lines of what yall are talking about

I dont think ive even told the dev team about this yet lol

[kindred saddle]

No I dunno what you're talkin about

[chrome valve]

This channel got randomly active lol

[kindred saddle]

Guess I'll find out

[chrome valve]

Yo skull crusher

[grim bridge]

hello

[chrome valve]

Yo plannin on making any other mods?

This one is hella sick

[harsh saddle]

sorta like this

[chrome valve]

Also I've tried to tell plenty of people about the mod

[grim bridge]

I have had a few misc ideas but current plan is to go back to making Real Video Games™️ once this is done, as I need money in order to survive

[chrome valve]

You could always look into commissions for modding this game

[kindred saddle]

So it goes

[grim bridge]

comms arent a bad idea and ill probably take some on the side honestly

[chrome valve]

Also I saw that game you made

Ngl looks cool

[grim bridge]

thank you I appreciate that

[chrome valve]

I researched a little and found it

Nice puzzle game look

I might get it in the future who knows

[harsh saddle]

maybe you can add like one of those little recorders that are found in official moons?

the "lore" things?

[grim bridge]

data logs? also planned

[harsh saddle]

k

[chrome valve]

Yo skull

Have you ever though of making a custom ship for ooblterra

[grim bridge]

itd be a lot I think

[chrome valve]

True

Still would be sick

[harsh saddle]

how would you even do that-

[harsh ferry]

What if you add a new dude instead of sigurd and make him say its insprird by sigurd's idk

Inspired*

[grim bridge]

the reason the dropship, player, and the little landing area are all in the style of lethal company and not WTO was kind of intentional. The company are invading a completely new planet instead of just a new moon, so thats a visual reflection of that

[grim bridge]

some of the logs will be from the aliens who lived/worked here and some will be from the man who discovered this planet first

[harsh ferry]

Cool

[chrome valve]

Yo guys off topic but a new interior mod got posted

It's a hospital

[kindred saddle]

I forgot to ask earlier but do you think there'll be some way for the oobl language to be in the logs or is that just straight up not possible

[chrome valve]

I was tricked

The hospital ain't out yet

[harsh ferry]

Ye any mod in releases that has wip is in the making

Wip means work in progress

[grim bridge]

we were going on about scanning ooblterra and I thought itd be funny for its bestiary node to be in the oobl language, but that is logistically easier said than done

I have no clue how unity's UI system works :)

if its anything like unreals it will suck to learn :)

in theory I could do some trickery and just render a gif on top of the screen... akin to what the doom mod does

[harsh ferry]

Doom mod?

[grim bridge]

LC_Doom

lets you play doom on the terminal

personal favorite of mine

[harsh ferry]

Ayo what

Lol

Im installing that

[chrome valve]

Ik another doom mod in the works

It basically let's you pick up a controller and turned lethal into doom

The ui changes and a ton of mons spawn

It's pretty neat

[solid jacinth]

oh yeah the next AC update

I assume that's what it is 👀

[harsh saddle]

there's something wrong with my thing

i keep getting mansion

[grim bridge]

try running WTO and its dependencies on their own

do make sure that youre actually on the latest version. If you installed manually, make sure all of the assetbundles are present

[harsh saddle]

i currently have 0.7.5

[grim bridge]

yeah in that case check any mods that mess with interior spawns

[harsh saddle]

does that include custom interiors?

[grim bridge]

maybe? they havent been known to conflict but better safe than sorry

[harsh saddle]

k

[chrome valve]

Yo skull is there a release date for the update

[harsh saddle]

nope, still mansion

[grim bridge]

0.8 is pretty much ready, pending some minor bugfixes and internal feedback. ill say wednesday

ill give myself some buffer and say the new expected time for 0.9 is mid march

I work on valve time dont take any release dates I give you seriously

[grim bridge]

have you tried with just WTO?

[harsh saddle]

no

i just disabled the interior things

[grim bridge]

try just WTO see what happens

[harsh saddle]

k

ok it works now

[grim bridge]

mod conflict then

[celest shadow]

Leaving this here to check back later, keep up the good work :)

[past venture]

the ghost of ooblterra past

[wicked ravine]

meltdown just patches LungProp.EquipItem and checks if isLungDocked is true, then itll start the meltdown. if your apparatus triggers something on obblterra though dont worry about adding meltdown support

[alpine locust]

Could say that during rainy weathers (or a custom weather replacing rainy weather) the masses become active and adjust themselves at different locations to pull the unfortunate into the planet for consumption.

Aka TotallyNotQuicksand

[grim bridge]

that's simple enough, I'll probably just make it an option on the eventual config file™️

[harsh saddle]

uhh

so i wanted to test if you kill an adult by shooting it with a rocket launcher

it died

and i shot a baby wander with it

and uhh

[grim bridge]

oh my god

corpse party

[harsh saddle]

for some reason baby wanders can tank multiple shots from a rocket launcher

an adult died by one

@grim bridge how is this possible

is this why they aren't extinct?

they are just super stong

[grim bridge]

this is a bug I identified a couple days ago actually his health value is actually somewhere around -1000 surely

if his health is too low he'll refuse to die

which would have insane implications if I didnt fix it already

[harsh saddle]

damn

uhh

[grim bridge]

oh yeah the dev test map does that

when testing collisions on everything I ended up with an awesome shovel collection

[harsh saddle]

ik

but god

that is alot

[harsh saddle]

@grim bridge are wander's allergic to mushrooms by any chance?

[grim bridge]

im... sorry?

is this a lore question or is there a mod that adds mushrooms

[harsh saddle]

because uhh

[grim bridge]

oh dear

[harsh saddle]

it was a joke question since i found a corpse right by some mushrooms

[grim bridge]

well I mean I figure thats what happens when you eat food from another planet

especially when its uncooked

[past venture]

considering the teeth, i think you'd need to do a little more than cook them

[harsh saddle]

and those spores might be a problem... yikes

[harsh saddle]

and to awnser your question, yeah there's a mushroom mod https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/PloufJPEG/CompanyCreatures/

[alpine locust]

The teeth are so unsettling tbh. Kinda surprised they dont bite other crewmates when they get to close to a infected person

[analog nacelle]

my curious question i have is, is this interior just for the moon or are you able to set it to other moons aswell?

[prime reef]

currently the ooblterra dungeon will only spawn on the moon ooblterra. 1.0 might add it where you can configuire the dungeon spawn chance on certain moons i think

[analog nacelle]

cool

[unique spire]

I'm so hyped for the release on thunderstone

[thick kayak]

same

[prime reef]

same

I hope 0.8 will

[icy walrus]

@grim bridge where download

[thick kayak]

Not out yet

[grim bridge]

(beta download can be found in the pins)

[icy walrus]

https://github.com/Skull220/Welcome_To_Ooblterra/ ?

[grim bridge]

yep bingo

check the releases tab

[icy walrus]

what does this add

[grim bridge]

new moon, new interior, new monsters and scrap

[icy walrus]

I dont think the new interior works

[grim bridge]

how did you download the mod?

make sure you downloaded the first zip file

if the moon worked but not the interior it may be a conflict with another mod

[obtuse raptor]

ah fuck

[grim bridge]

alright everyone there's a known incompatibility with LLL

this will be fixed with the 0.8 release, which will depend on LLL

lol

[obtuse raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-walter-white-sus-face-app-gif-23028540

[wicked ravine]

what the fuck is happening here

[grim bridge]

newer versions of LLL apparently overwrite some LethalLib code

lethallib code which managed WTO's custom dungeon

[harsh ferry]

yeah and i run into a lot of issues with the new LLL updates

1.0.7 seems to work the best rn

[granite drum]

is this on thunderstore yet

[thick kayak]

no

[dry dawn]

I keep just getting mansion interior for some reason 😔

[chrome valve]

yeah i think its some other mod's update that did that

it didnt before

[grim bridge]

this is a known issue with LLL

it will be fixed in 0.8 coming so soon i can almost taste it

[prime reef]

how soon

[grim bridge]

I have to fix an issue with some lag spikes that happen occasionally and I have no idea where the hell they come from

after that it ships

[prime reef]

this weekend soon :)??

[grim bridge]

im done holding this back

you know me and release dates

but literally ASAP so yes if its fixed this weekend itll ship this weekend

[prime reef]

LETS GOO

been waiting for that juicy colored lighting for so long

[mighty olive]

I’m so excited for this mod

[thick kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/hype-gif-25972342

[ornate grove]

github or?

[grim bridge]

as usual

[half moat]

any update on when it should be released on thunderstore? i remember you saying once its 1.0

[grim bridge]

thats the current plan indeed

[half moat]

what version is it on now? havent really been active on discord so i got no clue lol

[grim bridge]

current build is 0.7.5. 0.8 will be out soon

[half moat]

oooo, nearly there

cant wait

[grim bridge]

Welcome To Ooblterra Beta Version [0.8.0]

Back to the Lab again...

-Doorways now (sometimes) have doors that can (sometimes) be locked
-Oobl Laboratory now spawns keys (these keys are styled after Ooblterra but will work in vanilla dungeons and vice versa)
-Start Room now spawns multiple paths instead of just one
-Rooms now have colored lighting that loosely indicate depth into the facility
-Some large doorways ||will now begin to incrementally close the more a player passes under them||
-New suits :)

-Frankenstein Rooms now spawn with 4 chemicals
-Frankenstein Rooms are now usable

-Cafeteria room now spawns
-Machine rooms now spawn
-Machine rooms are now usable

-New Trap: Floor Spikes
-New Trap: Tesla Coil

-New Scrap: Empty Battery
-New Scrap: Charged Battery
-New Scrap: Chemical Beaker
-New Scrap: Sprint Totem
-New Scrap: Totem Of Undeath

-All scrap are now held properly in first person
-All scrap now feature a full suite of sounds

-Gallenarma:
-||Will now scream and beat their chest before they begin attacking a player||
-||Now feature a different footstep sound||
-||Are now more likely to wake up on their own after a while||

-Eye Security:
-||Now have a random chance of performing a 'Deep Scan', indicated by a red scan ray. Deep Scans check the player's entire inventory, not just their active hand||
-||Will always perform Deep Scans if in range of a Tesla Coil||
-||Will now shut down for a few seconds after performing a scan and failing to find an object||

-Adult Wanderer:
-Various minor AI tweaks

-Lurkers:
-Removed from spawn list, pending rewrite coming in next version

-New Enemy: WTO Mimic/"Ghost Player"
-Spawns circumstancially

-Addressed an issue where Wanderers killed by players would have a value on the host but not on connecting clients
-Addressed an issue where vents would spawn in awkward places (requires more testing to confirm)
-Days on Ooblterra now last longer than days on other planets
-Sunlight no longer bleeds into Oobl Laboratory

As of now, Welcome To Ooblterra depends on Lethal Level Loader (v1.1.6). This update along with future ones can be found on WTO's Github Releases page. When in doubt, download the one at the top of the list!

kept yall waiting huh

new version should have a much better turnaround time than the >1 Month this took, as we're essentially just working on new enemies and a few other amenities

[mighty olive]

Is this still incompatible with other mods?

[grim bridge]

ymmv

it's definitely now compatable with LLL, which had issues where it'd accidentally spawn the manor instead of the Oobl Lab

but other than that it's up to user testing

[mighty olive]

Gotcha, I'll go ahead and give it a test then. I'm super hyped for 1.0, but if I can get it early I'll gladly take it

[alpine locust]

So cloooooose!!! 💜

[harsh saddle]

@grim bridge what do tesla coils do?

[lunar mantle]

WOOO I am so hyped to go back in to try out the new stuff

[grim bridge]

any object you're holding that can go off, will

[harsh saddle]

k

[grim bridge]

walkies, boomboxes, flashlights, etc

[harsh saddle]

also what do mimics do?

the ones mentioned in the update log

i tried finding them with devmode but didn't see anything

[grim bridge]

||they're both just reskinned masks||

[harsh saddle]

oh

what do they look like?

[grim bridge]

||the wto mimic can be spawned by failing a frankenstein sequence and the ghost player can be spawned if you die with a totem of undeath in hand||

[harsh saddle]

so they're just ||masked men||?

but they spawn differently?

[grim bridge]

yep

and, yknow, dont have masks

[harsh saddle]

will the maskedenemyoverhaul mod fuck with the 2 enemies?

[grim bridge]

uncertain, but im sure someone will say so at some point

[lunar mantle]

I will be able to find out it's in my mod pack

[harsh saddle]

wait do fire exits have custom door models?

[grim bridge]

they do not

[harsh saddle]

are the indoor fire exits the same size as normal interor ones

[grim bridge]

yep

[harsh saddle]

what im trying to say is, is the mimic compatible with this mod?

[grim bridge]

753's mimic mod should be plug and play, yes

we kept the fire exits the same as the default ones for sake of readability

same with the doors, vents, etc

[harsh saddle]

@grim bridge can you release the thunderstore thing soon? i don't want people avoiding my game hosting things because im asking them to download a sketchy ass zip

[grim bridge]

current plan is still to release to thunderstore for ver 1.0

[harsh saddle]

can i be allowed to release an unofficial 0.8.0 so more people can see your work and so i don't have to tell people to download a random ass file? I'll definitely credit you

[grim bridge]

not the first person to ask, but please refrain for now

[harsh saddle]

ok

[grim bridge]

I want this to remain a (semi) private beta until it's good and ready

[grim bridge]

Welcome To Ooblterra Beta Version [0.8.0], HOTFIX 1

-Fixed it being a bit too bright

This update along with future ones can be found on WTO's Github Releases page. When in doubt, download the one at the top of the list!

[half moat]

respectable, most people would just say "no fuck off" lmao

[grim bridge]

I understand why people are so adament and i really do mean it when I say I'm giving consideration to releasing on thunderstore prior to 1.0 but it's matter of weighing my options

[shut willow]

the 0.8.0 !!! the 0.8.0 israel !!!!

https://tenor.com/view/one-pice-gif-26834018

[prime reef]

lets gooo

[red spear]

Is your next big update 1.0? or are you planing on doing a .9 update first?

[grim bridge]

each new enemy will likely be released in a successive 0.8.x update. 0.8.1 is the next planned and will add either the Oobl Ghost or the Lurker, depending on which one I finish first

by 0.9 all (pre-1.0) enemies will be implemented and then the 0.9 update will add any other amenities. custom weather, etc. once that's out I'll synthesize any remaining user feedback and release 1.0 to thunderstore

[prime reef]

hey if I use AC on ooblterra, can I spawn other enemies on it

[grim bridge]

not sure. Now that we're on LethalLevelLoader, you should be able to use its config to toy around with spawns

[prime reef]

bet, I was just curious if some how oobl completly disbaled vanilla spawns or something

[harsh ferry]

hey skullcrusher when i go to other moons i can still hear the ooblterra slimy ahh walking sound

when i walk

[grim bridge]

ah yknow actually thatd make sense

im curious if that was an issue present in older builds. based on the way the code is written it mightve been

ill publish a hotfix for that tomorrow

if my understanding of the issue is correct, this should only happen on grass moons? snow moons and sand moons should still be normal

[harsh ferry]

i dont think so

i mean i saw that lcsoundtool is abandoned now or something idk

idk if u even use it it might be related tho

i think lethalresonance broke a lil

[harsh ferry]

i was on orion

and i heard the slimy ahh sound

[prime reef]

Im gonna change oobl price in the config, what would you say is a good price for it?

[harsh ferry]

its gives insane loot

so maybe 650-750

[prime reef]

cant say I agree

[harsh ferry]

dawg i found a 200 loot once that shit was insane lol

wait it got fixed or something maybe its only when i go to ooblterra then other moons

bc we did that

[prime reef]

also is this the mod that adds mach suits?

I think AC kinda messed up the weights for outside enemy list

what is the adult wanderer supposed to be at

as well as wanderer

or any other enemy that spawns there

[harsh ferry]

@grim bridge i was right it only happens after i go to ooblterra first then diff moons and also it breaks ship landing noise

[harsh ferry]

||he is protecting the wanderer at all times||

[grim bridge]

we plan to make it somewhere north of 1000 when we launch

Ooblterra's haul values can actually be incredible if you have multiple players and also ||if you power on The Machine||

[harsh ferry]

||what is the machine||

[grim bridge]

we add 7 new suits at this point. one of them is named "Mack suit" if thats what you mean

[prime reef]

im talking about the weight number

cause in AC, everything is 0 for me

for outside enemy list

[prime reef]

damn

[harsh ferry]

he might be using a diff spawn system idk

ask him

[grim bridge]

||new room tile for 0.8, spawns once per day. If you find the charged battery, you can power up the machine and itll unlock a scrap shelf with 10 scrap in it||

[harsh ferry]

||DAS FIRE||

[prime reef]

also is the dungeon size supposed to be 0.6

kinda small

[grim bridge]

adult wanderer is meant to be at 0, since they ||only spawn conditionally||. Wanderers are in the daytime list and should be at 50

[grim bridge]

||Yeah my idea for how to make an apparatus equivalent was to just invert it. power the facility up instead of down. Makes for a nice alternative objective I think||

[prime reef]

ok ty

[grim bridge]

this is to compensate for how large each tile itself is. but feel free to tune it to your liking

[prime reef]

oh yea in daytime, it says wanderer is 50

[prime reef]

ok thanks

it would be cool if blobs could spawn, but they change colors depending in which "biome" area there in. Like if there in blue area. they become blue, if there in a red area, they become red

ect

[grim bridge]

whats up with the ship landing noise?

[harsh ferry]

its gone

[grim bridge]

I doubt thats me, tbh, since I dont really touch that sound

[harsh ferry]

i dont hear it after going to ooblterra

[grim bridge]

or the ship landing event etc

[harsh ferry]

idk it works when i dont go to ooblterra

i mean its just a ship sound

[grim bridge]

ill look into it regardless for all I know maybe im accidentally throwing it into the assetbundle somehow

[prime reef]

once you fix those, then I will add to my main packl

[past venture]

why would you do that

[grim bridge]

release 0.8?

sorry my bad, I won't release version 0.8 next time

[past venture]

||compatibility with meltdown, once you land you have two minutes to find the machine before the moon explodes||

[past venture]

no i meant imn a good way

[grim bridge]

oh I wasn't quite sure how you meant that

[grim bridge]

this could be possible but given how the spawns work, ||I sincirely doubt you are plugging the charged battery into the machine within 2 minutes||

that said I can add compatability with meltdown such that ||the countdown starts the moment you plug the battery in||

[fluid stream]

damn its not out yet that trailer was sick

[past venture]

||was just being silly, would definitely not be fun getting 10 scrap out in two minutes||

[grim bridge]

its amazing how much better the mod looks now compared to that old trailer

[fluid stream]

def keeping this moon on watch

[grim bridge]

I agree. Unless you get really lucky with the fire exit placement youre probably fucked

[past venture]

what if ||the light colors changed when you plug in the battery||

[grim bridge]

1.0 release is still slated for end of february but the jury's still out on if that's at all likely to happen. hard deadline of end of april

[grim bridge]

:)

[past venture]

maan i wanna go test out all the new stuff but i wanna keep most of the ingame stuff a surprise for full release for me

[grim bridge]

understandable. tbh I think waiting for full release is the way to go

but I also want player feedback for bugs and stuff. tough balance

[past venture]

ghhhhhhhhh oh whatever i'll get to see my friend's reactions when it fully releases, i'll test it

woahhh ooblterra has a custom moon texture in orbit

the weird dropship tower hasn't been fixed yet

[grim bridge]

dropship tower?

oh you mean for the item ship?

[past venture]

yeah

[grim bridge]

Whats up with it?

[past venture]

it exists, just kinda awkward to go to

i forgot how soul rending being in ooblterra for 5 seconds is :(((((

[grim bridge]

and a preview video :)

though I may get it retaken. I hear its a bit hard to actually see whats going on

[past venture]

ooblterra enemies don't seem to be spawnable with dancetools, which makes testing them more difficult

[grim bridge]

I know for a fact they are via lethaldevmode, but I had to add them manually to the spawn menu there

perhaps I will have to do the same with dancetools

[past venture]

plug room seems way too common

[past venture]

dancetools usually adds enemies automatically, so it's odd they aren't there

[grim bridge]

I remember spectateenemies had a problem with spectating ooblterra monsters before it suddenly started working so perhaps a similar thing is happening here

[past venture]

the ambience is horrific i don't need the ghosts of oobl's past whispering in my ear

||re-inserting the drained battery inserts it at a really odd angle||

||do the drained battery and charged battery use the same item? if so, they're also unspawnable by dancetools and i'm not going through the ooblterra hell maze to find the charged battery properly. half because it would take forever, half because ooblterra is scary||

[grim bridge]

||batteries actually spawn as map hazards, not items, but yes they do. if dancetools lets you, there is a boolean you can flip to switch a battery from drained to charged. I normally use UnityExplorer to this end, though||

[grim bridge]

@tall shale :)

that was his favorite sound and for good reason

I am gonna try and make it play a little less frequently maybe

easier said than done as a cursory glance of the code revealed

[past venture]

||i think adult wanderers should have a slower spawn animation/spawn a bit further away and chase you a bit slower. when i first killed a wanderer it was pretty much impossible to tell what was happening until i was already dead||

[past venture]

||dancetools does not let me do this unfortunately||

[grim bridge]

||Finding the battery does indeed take forever. like I said, alternative objective.||

||Ideally youd have two scouts, one looking for the battery and one looking for (and marking a path toward) the machine||

[past venture]

||jumping into the machine seems to not do anything. i believe it should probably instantly turn you into slag if you have the smart idea to jump into it.||

[grim bridge]

I went back and forth on this internally because while it does have ooblterra's acid water, it doesn't actually go all that deep. its kind of just a very thin layer running over a basin

gameplay wise its not like it actually adds much of anything

but that said its kind of just a matter of adding a damage volume so fuck it, might as well

[past venture]

you also walk on the water in it

[past venture]

what's the spawn weight of the oobl lab on ooblterra?

[grim bridge]

100%

by default

try simulate ooblterra in the terminal

[analog nacelle]

will it be able to be configged with other moons, such as its interior, or is it just stuck to this moon

[grim bridge]

LethalLevelLoader should allow you to change a lot of stuff in its config

enemy spawns, interiors, etc

[analog nacelle]

gotcha, thanks

[past venture]

that's chance, not weight

[grim bridge]

oh

300 or 400 I believe?

[obtuse raptor]

You can check that in simulate if you change the config btw

[fluid stream]

last time i checked 300 was 50%

[obtuse raptor]

if something else is 300, yes

300 doesnt just mean 50%

[fluid stream]

ig this can have different values its just most LLL interiors have 300 as 50%

[obtuse raptor]

no

you misunderstand how it works

if theres only 1 dungeon option

it having a rarity of 1 means 100%

if theres two dungeon options and both are at rarity 1, both are 50%

[hardy siren]

weight is the amount of times a dungeon is added to the pool for a planet. all percentages are relative to the other weights

[fluid stream]

i was talking about something like this

[hardy siren]

yes, 300 is approximately 50% on other planets because all of the other planets have one dungeon at 300 weight. this changes as soon as you throw more than one dungeon into the mix

[opaque tulip]

in vanilla under the hood, facility had weight of 300, and if you add another interior with weight 300 it's 50/50 to get either one

that's why it's a common example to say that 300 is a 50% chance

[prime reef]

is there still audio issues with oobletarra

[grim bridge]

wdym by audio issues?

if youre talking about the footsteps/ship, I'll be looking into those tomorrow

[prime reef]

yep those

what exactly were those issues, do those always happen?

[grim bridge]

the footsteps issue happens when you land on ooblterra and then leave and go to another planet. youll still be hearing the squishy steps

as for the ship door sound issue, im not sure. ill have to investigate further

[obtuse raptor]

@grim bridge oh i forgot

I can add custom footstep sound support

Yaya

[grim bridge]

thatd be nice over the hack solution I use lmao

expected turnaround time on that?

[obtuse raptor]

Probably safe to wait on me

[grim bridge]

works for me

[obtuse raptor]

doin a small update today or tomorrow ideally

[tall shale]

eyyyyyy

although yeah would be super grateful if it was less frequent

I got it like 3-4 times exploring one branch of the lab

[harsh ferry]

it was lethalresonance that the ship landign thruster sound doesn't work

its been fixed

[sand pike]

you're damn right it has👏🏻

[grim bridge]

well there we go

ill wait for batby to add custom footstep support then

[sand pike]

Batby?

[grim bridge]

IAmBatby, LethalLevelLoader dev

[grim bridge]

see

[sand pike]

Custom footstep support from LLL? Interesting

Like in a choose which sound from vanilla way

[obtuse raptor]

how the game does it is very simple

if (tag) get x from array

[sand pike]

Or like new sounds?

[grim bridge]

it makes sense given what the tools are designed for. I never asked for it because I didn't think anyone else needed it

[obtuse raptor]

you weren't the first person to ask 😛

[grim bridge]

oh no, Ooblterra has a completely custom footstep sound

no shit

ok well apparently ooblterra and some other moon also has a completely custom footstep sound

[obtuse raptor]

😭

[sand pike]

Well either way I’ll just hope it ends up compatible with our footstep sounds once they’re out

[obtuse raptor]

i think both kay and matt asked first but you had it in oob first

[obtuse raptor]

explain

[sand pike]

Nothing particularly, I just didn’t know you could do that and since it has to do with sound I hope it wouldn’t interfere once we add our footstep sounds

I doubt it’ll be an issue

[obtuse raptor]

oh yeah like from looking at the code new footprints might be the easiest addition periods

the entire class is

[Serializable]
public class FootstepSurface
{
    // Token: 0x0400092C RID: 2348
    public string surfaceTag;

    // Token: 0x0400092D RID: 2349
    public AudioClip[] clips;

    // Token: 0x0400092E RID: 2350
    public AudioClip hitSurfaceSFX;
}

[grim bridge]

If you take a look at the ooblterra code you will see I just replace the grass footstep sounds with the squishy ones

I probably just need to cache those sounds and restore them when the player goes to a different planet

no idea why orion played those sounds but for all I know they have their terrain tagged as grass too

oh good job discord

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[obtuse raptor]

outside of the context of lll doing it

to add a new footstepsurface

you make a new footstepsurface, add the string, add the clips

and add it to the array in startofround

thats it

[grim bridge]

right but the problem is that surfacetag is compared to the internal tag list

which you cant modify

[obtuse raptor]

no

you might have misread?

            this.interactRay = new Ray(this.thisPlayerBody.position + Vector3.up, -Vector3.up);
            if (Physics.Raycast(this.interactRay, out this.hit, 6f, StartOfRound.Instance.walkableSurfacesMask, QueryTriggerInteraction.Ignore) && !this.hit.collider.CompareTag(StartOfRound.Instance.footstepSurfaces[this.currentFootstepSurfaceIndex].surfaceTag))
            {
                for (int i = 0; i < StartOfRound.Instance.footstepSurfaces.Length; i++)
                {
                    if (this.hit.collider.CompareTag(StartOfRound.Instance.footstepSurfaces[i].surfaceTag))
                    {
                        this.currentFootstepSurfaceIndex = i;
                        return;
                    }
                

[grim bridge]

yeah CompareTag right there

[obtuse raptor]

if the currentFootstepSurface tag isn't the one the player hits then it loops through the array and tries to find a match

you might have missed the ! on the first comparetag?

[grim bridge]

its 8am so maybe im reading this wrong but this code seems to only assign currentfootstepsurfaceindex if the CompareTag() returns true

so if that never happens itd just use the default value of that variable, which im fairly certain is 0 IE the grass sound

[obtuse raptor]

if the current selected FootSurface tag doesn't match what the raycast hits, it loops through all the registered FootSurface's and if there is one that does match, it makes that the current FootSurface

[grim bridge]

right but its checking the tag on one of the colliders

the collider that the raycast hit I mean

[obtuse raptor]

mhm

[grim bridge]

so that collider would have to have the tag on it

[obtuse raptor]

correct

[grim bridge]

how would it have my custom tag on it

unless thats a thing thats possible with nomnoms tools but I thought tags were determined when you build the game

[obtuse raptor]

ah there we go

tags are literally just like, tags

kinda fullstop

you can only have 1 to reduce the impact on findobjectbytag? maybe?

theres no limit

in total amount and/or dev/modding context

oh you know what

semi

im a little fraud

googling shows apparently assetbundles just don't unpack custom ones well

[grim bridge]

it was my understanding you just couldnt add custom tags

[obtuse raptor]

but you can programmatically add them

[grim bridge]

thats why my original solution which just used the SO didnt work. I tried adding a TentacleFootstep tag in unity and the built mod didnt care

[grim bridge]

whats the method?

[obtuse raptor]

lemme test real quick

gotta go to sleep but i will get to the bottom of this tomorrow

either im right and were gucci or im wrong and i will truimph to restore my honour

[grim bridge]

ill be waitin on ya

[obtuse raptor]

worstcase easy fallback for a quick update would be to have a footstep surface ref. in extendedlevel that overrides but i'd prefer a more natural solution

[prime reef]

does the issue only happen on certain moons

[grim bridge]

Unsure. I predict it only happens on grassy moons - Vow, March, and any custom one with its floor tagged as grass

but im not sure

I haven't given it full scope testing yet

im gonna give Batby a day or two for his implementation and then push another hotfix

[prime reef]

I will do some more testing

[grim bridge]

thatd be nice

to replicate; travel to ooblterra, leave, and then travel to another moon

[prime reef]

alr

[past venture]

had a dream about an ooblterra enemy that doesn't exist, invisible guys called assassins that threw spears at you

[grim bridge]

generally I think showing up in people's dreams is a sign you made something good

[prime reef]

yea, that means they are also thinking about that thing a lot

[past venture]

well clearly you gotta implement this enemy, it came to me in a dream

[grim bridge]

on the one hand that sounds terrifying on the other it sounds incredibly unbalanced

also a bit lorebreaking but literally only I care about that

[past venture]

could probably balance them by making them attack slow, making the invisible material have heavy distortions so you can spot them if you pay enough attention, and also give them very noticable noises. probably also make them not an instakill even if it's a giant spear

[prime reef]

can confirm, forest planets grass sounds make the squishy sound

but can also confirm restarting the lobby fixes it

[grim bridge]

can you also confirm it doesn't happen on other planets?

[grim bridge]

my main consideration was actually the interaction for getting away from them, as that's kind of what im trying to build Ooblterra enemies around. most of them have conditions that you get punished for getting wrong

this matches the interactions one has with coilheads and nutcrackers for a vanilla example

it's not as rigid for but also applies to brackens, hoarder bugs, eyeless dogs

[past venture]

maybe having it act more like a bracken would be better. throws a spear, runs away, gets another spear, slowly sneaks up and throws another spear

[grim bridge]

that'd work but it's pretty basic

instinctual response would be that the way to defeat him is to find where he keeps his spears and destroy them

then he'll just charge at you and you smack him with a shovel

I want to make these interactions at least interesting and novel

let it be known: I take requests just not for free :)

[past venture]

oh yeah in my dream i found the spear storage and battled a group of three of them with a spear

[past venture]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-fresh-sideye-cat-cat-staring-side-eye-cat-side-eye-gif-14813005665353532624

[prime reef]

sorry was busy will get back to it later

[grim bridge]

no worries, I appreciate the help

[prime reef]

also is it normal for spike traps to spawn right in a fire exit

lke I entered and just died

[grim bridge]

yknow that makes sense and im kinda shocked it literally never happened in testing

I'll manually make that impossible in the hotfix

[past venture]

are there any images or videos of the tesla coil? i was unable to find one myself. also, how does it spawn? does it spawn like landmines and turrets?

[prime reef]

bet

also

time feels really slow

[prime reef]

I find it a lot

but nothing happens

[grim bridge]

that's because time is slow

for sake of balance. I think this is also exposed in LLL's config but if not I can add an option for it

[grim bridge]

yep, spawns like a map hazard. It'll only really matter to you if you have something that can go off. Flashlights, walkies, boomboxes, etc

I've toyed with one other idea for it, but it'll have to clear internal testing

[past venture]

hmm, they might conflict with hazardsoutside then

[grim bridge]

spikes do as well

WTO specifically modifies the spawnmaphazards function to ensure that everything spawns in a specific location instead of a random one, because that was messing with the placement of spike traps

so yeah I'd assume some sort of conflict

[prime reef]

could I change it now

it makes it to easy

[past venture]

ah

[grim bridge]

like I said if it's in LLL's config feel free

its your game not mine

[prime reef]

oh im dumb, alr thx

what should I change it to for a normal value

[grim bridge]

1

lower values are slower, higher values are faster

I do recommend setting it to something slower than normal because finding the battery + machine can take a long while, so I would suggest trying 0.8 or 0.9

but again, your game, do whatever you want

[azure falcon]

s/o batby for having config options for the grand majority of things I was gonna make config options for

oh oops wrong account

[prime reef]

its 1 by default in lll, i have a global multiplier in ac for all moons, so oobl feels very slow. I changed it to 1.5. This also made it take way to long for enemies to spawn as well

[grim bridge]

oh so your time is already slowed from vanilla?

yeah thatd probably make it glacial then lmao

wait a minute

hey @prime reef update: I'm wrong

you will have to wait for the next hotfix

I completely forgot that I abandoned using the default selectablelevel timescale because it was causing an error where days would skip

I will come up with a solution in the meantime

[prime reef]

oh yea also, we finish a day in oobl, and the day doesent pass

keep in mind i have 100 other mods too

[grim bridge]

I suspect that's due to AC's global multiplier but I can't say for certain. I did a lot of fuckery to fix that mentioned issue and it might not have been perfect

[prime reef]

i will reset ac global multiplier

dont really need longer days

[prime reef]

so the lll config wont fix it?

[grim bridge]

yeah for now I suspect the lll config won't do anything

you can still try it if you want but don't expect anything good

[prime reef]

alr thx

[old saddle]

how do i download this mod?

[fiery sable]

https://github.com/Skull220/Welcome_To_Ooblterra/

[red spear]

@old saddle

[old saddle]

i just read that myself, imma just use this one sadly to much work to play with randoms when i cant just send them a code

*not use

@red spear

[red spear]

yea

[fiery sable]

It's currently in Beta, that's why it's not released on Thunderstore yet (or so I assume)

[fluid stream]

yes they are waitin till 1.0 to release it

[shut willow]

waiting for 1.0 to add to my multiplayer pack

just too much effort for one planet

[edgy robin]

totally downloading this when on thunderstore

[prime reef]

im fine with its current state, only issue is no weather, it feels pretty OP that I can go all 3 days. Im def gonna increase the moon price, cause this is supposed to be the ultra end game moon

[analog nacelle]

how much would the normal moon price be?

[harsh ferry]

@grim bridge maybe acid rain could work since im pretty sure the river is acid

[past venture]

already planned i think

[ornate grove]

how is scrap value rn?

i'm sure the performance is a lot better since the last time i played it

[ornate grove]

i mean for custom scrap

[grim bridge]

on release the moon will be worth somewhere north of 1k

scrap values are indeed pretty high though I did long since fix the bug that raised them on other planets

[analog nacelle]

thats neat!

[grim bridge]

first of the three planned weather effects is pretty similar to acid rain but its a bit more fair I think

[half moat]

Fuck it. Add a tornado that can sweep you up LMAO

[grim bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-fan4stic-fantastic-four-the-thing-say-that-again-gif-9345984830195785978

[harsh ferry]

@grim bridge another bug that might be minor is it making lethaldevmode spawn only ooblterra creatures and rolling giants

actually not too sure if this is ooblterra

[grim bridge]

can confirm this is ooblterra, I intentionally strip the vanilla enemies from the dev menu in order to make my life a tiny bit easier

I will try to take this code out of future builds though

I really didn't expect people who werent modders to be using LethalDevMode lmao

[harsh ferry]

i test my modpack and shit to see if there's glitches if i add a mod lol

[grim bridge]

that makes sense

[prime reef]

this would be perfect for the green biome

and would be cool for the frankenstien room

and the appertus can spawn in this room

[acoustic crypt]

Why is this not on thunderstore

[alpine locust]

Because no full release, and the beta is on their server if Masa recalls correctly.

[harsh ferry]

and on github

at here

https://github.com/Skull220/Welcome_To_Ooblterra

[alpine locust]

Ohh, right yeah forgot about that part

[edgy robin]

this will eventually come out on thunderstore right?

[grim bridge]

yes

in 1.0 :)

[edgy robin]

this fina be so fire

[edgy robin]

i always get confused with version stuff, since its on 0.8 does that mean in 2 updates its 1.0 or does it switch to 1.0 whenever you want. like you could technically go to ver 0.629

[grim bridge]

semantic versioning typically goes Major.Minor.Patch. that's about the level you can expect from the content of the updates, but it's different what these specific categories mean from developer to developer

to answer your question directly though, current release plan is this:
0.8.1 will add a new enemy
0.8.2 will add another new enemy
0.8.x will add any further new enemies until im satisfied with the roster
0.9 will add some amenities like weather effects
between 0.9 to 1.0 I will be pretty much exclusively synthesizing feedback
then 1.0 will release

I expect a max of about 4 or 5 new enemies before 0.9 so the max number of updates you will be waiting is 6

tentatively

[tardy flower]

Its like almost done and they prolly burnt out🤷‍♂️

[shut willow]

yeah ik

im just saying ill wait for 1.0

cause my team stupid as fuck and it takes them 10 years to download locally

[tardy flower]

Zamn‼️

[shut willow]

spent a whole day tryna figure out one guys problems and turned out he aint even download the fucking modpack 😭

[mighty olive]

sounds like my friends

[edgy robin]

this gonna be a hefty mod. hopefully my load times can handle it.

ill probably be fine.

new moons and enemies never caused issues for me.

[shut willow]

unironically this mod isnt that big despite adding alot of new content

[edgy robin]

b e t

[shut willow]

its about the same size as Celest

at around 90k

maybe lower i forgot

more or less

[edgy robin]

thats incredible

[hard mango]

does this add some suits?

can they be disabled?

[grim bridge]

1. yes
2. not currently, but will be configurable as of 1.0

[prime reef]

did the new hotfix come out yet?

[grim bridge]

still in progress

(though I guess its hard to call it a hotfix with how long its taking lmao)

I took the time after 0.8's release to transfer over to a new unity project environment, one that's up to date with v49 (my previous one was v45) and one that lets me test in editor via nomnom's patcher. I just finalized the transition yesterday

[prime reef]

bet

[tight delta]

Time for the base game to update and shatter all of your work

/j

[grim bridge]

1 fear

im never modding a video game I like again. I miss being excited for updates instead of scared of them

[old night]

does this mod add suits?

[grim bridge]

yep

7, currently

I say that as if I have plans to change that number I absolutely dont

[old night]

mhm, just saw that they are there and wasn't sure if it was intentional

[tight delta]

kinda true

thankfully my stuff is cosmetics so I dont have to do any work as long as the main dev of the api I use keeps updating lol

but have had this in other games that isnt just cosmetic stuff

[chrome valve]

black varients would be cool tho

[grim bridge]

ok actually a black variant would admittedly be kinda cool

[obtuse raptor]

In theory a lot of potential basegame changes would target LLL's stuff for the most part

[old night]

yeah if zeeks embraces modding, imo he should put funds into servers so everything just needs to be communicated from the server to the players rather than communicated between the host and clients

[wicked ravine]

nah p2p (peer to peer, one player is the host/server and a client) makes sense for small co op games like lethal company, especially considering its a lot easier. zeekers would also have to rewrite all of the networking code for basically no benefit (it would allow crossplay but that has got to be through the floor on his priority list)

[old night]

Is it a small game tho?

[obtuse raptor]

very much so

[wicked ravine]

well not now but before lethal company, his previous most popular game (atleast on steam, i aint digging through the roblox ones) had less than a 100 concurrent players

[old night]

well lc has a lot of players

[wicked ravine]

and i meant small more as in the team size

[old night]

and he made millions

[wicked ravine]

yeah thats the thing, he would not have planned for it to explode like this, so doing server infastructure would have been useless (super costly, he didnt know if it would make money, expensive, and if the game flops womp womp).

and if lethal compnay wasn't p2p; modding would not have exploded, which is a big part of why lethal company exploded.

[old night]

How is modding easier in p2p?

[wicked ravine]

we would basically only have clientsided mods. mods that did more complex stuff were either: out of luck, or had to implement some janky way where it ran through their own server.

[obtuse raptor]

a lot of people bought a small game

[old night]

interesting, I thought networking was only difficult because of p2p

[wicked ravine]

networking is generally difficult no matter the structure, p2p just means no one has a final authority on what happens (like enemy ai i think is calculated by whoever its chasing)

[old night]

huh

[wicked ravine]

every client helps process the game and every client sends data to every other client (basically). there is no client in lethal company that processes everything

[zenith nebula]

If LC came with like dedicated server tools instead of P2P it would be easier modding wise but wouldn't get the benefits of quick and easy steam integration and hosting

Which is definitely a defining factor in the games popularity

[wicked ravine]

oh yeah like hosting your own server, yeah minecraft plugins kinda proved that

the steam integration is definetly a huge plus though

[grim bridge]

to be fair The Upturned is a linear singleplayer game so looking at player numbers at any time other than release is kind of pointless

but otherwise I agree

[wicked ravine]

yeah i meant it more as an example that zeekers wasn't really known before this

[grim bridge]

to all who havent: go play the Upturned that game rocks

[zenith nebula]

It Steals is also cool

[grim bridge]

agreed. I havent played any of his other games, I know laz really wanted me to play dead seater at one point

[zenith nebula]

Legs in LC would probably work really well tbh

[shut willow]

zeekerss probably wont make crossplay since its been confirmed that mobile wont be a thing (despite all the knockoffs)

[terse chasm]

Ik he wants to remain in control of his properties but he has made so much money he could just outsource a port with crossplay to another company if he wanted to. Although mobile would probably make public lobbies even trashier so idk maybe its a good thing

[weary oriole]

Thats a good idea

It steals interior

https://tenor.com/view/1000-quota-stare-lethal-company-1000-yard-stare-gif-8412969833343799422

[grim bridge]

progress update gamers:

• Footstep sound problem is (based on my testing) fixed
• Working on fixing the issues related to days either not advancing or skipping
• Rebalanced spike traps to spawn less, rebalanced Eye Security to kill players quicker
• Oobl Ghost is at his first playable draft stage. Will need testing and refinement

• Made a couple modifications to dungeon generation. There's a new tile and also kitchen tiles will now only sometimes spawn crushers

[harsh ferry]

les go

bro is the goat

[old night]

thats a 5th creature?

zambungus

[grim bridge]

correct

there's at least 3 more planned out of whats currently available in 0.8

[old night]

nice

[tight delta]

Is there a run down or what they do somewhere?

[harsh saddle]

Wouldn't that be the bracken again?

[grim bridge]

the ghost you mean? they wont be scannable, so it wont be available in game

theyre fairly simple and I figure players will find out how to beat them relatively quickly

[tight delta]

I meant like a run down of what the enemies do

[grim bridge]

yet still I forget that ive been meaning to make demo videos for all the monsters

I'll try to get on that. might as well

hard part is figuring out how much to give away. I guess just the gist

[tight delta]

Yea I like to know what I’m downloading
I don’t tell my friends what they do I just like to know to make sure I’m downloading something we would actually enjoy

Because I’ve gotten some garbage before because it didn’t tell

[grim bridge]

then yeah fuck it im confident enough in these freaks to sell you with them

[tight delta]

Yea I should mention that I don’t think yours are bad I just wanna know what they do

[grim bridge]

entirely reasonable

[old saddle]

this on thunderstore yet?

[past venture]

not yet

[old saddle]

its comin though?

[past venture]

yeah

[edgy robin]

i need one more mod for my modpack to breach the 250 mark, i said i was gonna wait till thunderstore but this just looks too good

[grim bridge]

keep in mind since this is a beta you will inevitably run into bugs

I do halfway encourage the wait until release approach if you want your first experience of the mod to be as good as possible

[edgy robin]

hmmmmm yeh ok

[grim bridge]

glad to hear youre excited at any rate

[edgy robin]

for sure

[grim bridge]

i guess ill update everyone; finally got a chance to test the first oobl ghost implementation (burnout's a bitch), we decided to come up with a more interesting method for defeating him which I have written and am going to test tomorrow

[edgy robin]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-lethal-company-dance-default-dance-fortnite-fortnite-dance-gif-2528941247781774150

[fathom scaffold]

I watched the video teaser and I like the interior so far. There is only one thing I'm a little hesitant on though. I'm not a big fan of constant red light just overwhelming the map. I hope that it's just the main entrance that has that red light because it reminded me of one of Wesley's moons where he replaces all light with red light (including flashlights), my friends and I weren't big fans of that change.

[grim bridge]

great news! different room tiles have different lights on them

some of them are indeed red but youll also see plenty of orange, yellow, green, purple, and blue throughout the facility

||additionally, powering on the machine converts all of the facility's lights, including the start room's, to be white||

flashlights will remain the same color they are in vanilla

[fathom scaffold]

I'm glad to hear that. I know you intend for ooblterra to be an all in one custom moon/interior but do you plan to have settings to have the interior appear in other moons?

[grim bridge]

as of our integration with LLL (0.8+) this is already possible via its config system

[fathom scaffold]

Awesome. I'm looking forward to 1.0 and I admire the ambition in implementing those not so easy features in the post 1.0 to do list.

[past venture]

you have too many mods

[real ivy]

There’s no such thing as too many mods

[rocky geyser]

3 custom monsters? Whoa that's a lot.

[harsh ferry]

And more to come