Welcome to Ooblterra! v2.0.0

[grim bridge]

Welcome to Ooblterra!

Like any good corporation, The Company is always down for some aggressive expansion. However, when a drunken and desperate mad scientist came to their door and offered to sell them the secret to a brand new alien planet, they didn't believe what they were hearing. But he told fantastic tales of a world where the floor was alive and wriggled beneath your feet, with strange creatures both friendly and deadly, and most interestingly to the company: facilities full of alien scrap built by a recently extinct civilization. So they paid him his sum, and he teleported a few contractors to a fascinating new place: Ooblterra.

It's only a matter of time before the company manages to figure out the planet's space-coordinates and get those contractors back. And then they'll open it to all their employees, including you!

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Welcome to Ooblterra is a custom moon mod for Lethal Company. Upon opening the game and checking the Moons list on the terminal, you'll see Ooblterra right at the bottom. Learn more about the planet, or dive right in!

Seven new pieces of scrap can be found here, along with new creatures! Welcome to Ooblterra plans to add:

• A new moon location
• 5+ Custom Scrap Items
• New custom security
• 3+ Custom monsters
• New interior location

Finally, that strange scientist left your group a keepsake! Two new suits will automatically be available on startup, to make your welcome as warm as possible. Good hunting!

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[dull ore]

we are SO back

[grim bridge]

^ world's laziest model artist

[dull ore]

^w^

[alpine crypt]

interesting 😮 have you started adding custom enemies already?

[grim bridge]

Just the wanderer right now, he'll have more behavior quirks than what's in the video but he's otherwise passive

[alpine crypt]

how did you go about adding an enemy? I'm struggling with that myself

[grim bridge]

a lot of it was using eva's lethalthings for reference

honestly after the mod's out I'll probably spend some time writing tutorials

[alpine crypt]

did you end up using the LethalLib API's Enemy class for adding enemies? or did your own thing

[grim bridge]

I did need the API for networking stuff

the script was on my own

[sudden ravine]

Really like how the inside of the castle and the castle itself looks

[alpine crypt]

any hints 🙏 I've got to the point where I'm tryna add my SpawnableEnemyWithRarity to the RoundManager.currentLevel.Enemies list but failing

[grim bridge]

If you want to send some screenshots in #dev-general I can help you out further

[acoustic sandal]

Amazing! Do you have plans to make a YouTube video by any chance possibly explaining the process to mod a moon/monster in? I’m extremely interested in learning how to make similar projects, I’m brand new to modding as a whole but I’m enjoying messing around with the audio files and suits so far😂

[grim bridge]

yep, like I said I'll probably be putting tutorials up

specifically on LCModdingWiki

since I want that project going strong

this mod will hopefully ship with tools for custom moons on either the same day or subsequent days

[acoustic sandal]

Good stuff, super excited! Can't wait to explore Ooblterra!

[median ingot]

Awesome work

[median ingot]

I assume the outside textures is far from done

[grim bridge]

what makes you say that?

[merry canyon]

!!!

[median ingot]

Just looks too basic for this game too simplistic looks very wip assets but idk

[grim bridge]

These textures are holdovers from the game this mod is based on

with a much lower poly style than LC

could increase texel density to make it less jarring perhaps

[sudden ravine]

Yeah the textures outside look pretty off

This is more of a nitpick but the animation of the entity shown in the video but animating 4 legged animals seems like it’s hard as hell

[median ingot]

the inside level looks much better the outside just looks a bit basic

[sudden ravine]

Just to clear up I’m not trynna be mean or anything lmao I think this mod has some really good potential

[median ingot]

yeah i dont want to be mean its just strict criticism since i want it to be good i appreciate what you are doing and im sure once its finished it will prob look better

[grim bridge]

tomorrow I'll play around with texture density and throw a few screenshots around see if it's any better

[sudden ravine]

Alright

[grim bridge]

all feedback is appreciated! I want this to be the best it can possibly be

[median ingot]

yeah id love to give feedback on updated pictures ive been around level design for a while so i hold some high standards sorry

it might be better to add custom textures instead of using the once zeekers left around to not be used

[grim bridge]

Hmm? no these are our assets

we're not using LC ones

[median ingot]

oh okay nvm

[grim bridge]

except for the drop position

[sudden ravine]

The inside of the building looks insanely cool imo it might need a few objects to avoid feeling empty but it looks really interesting to explore

[median ingot]

i thought you meant the opposite earlier

[sudden ravine]

Oh yea, is this a team project or are you doing this solo?

[median ingot]

yeah i agree its important not to make rooms to big spacing and empty it needs some detail and such the game relies on being in cramped spaces for the most part so its harder to avoid monsters

[grim bridge]

Myself and @dull ore

[sudden ravine]

I see

[grim bridge]

he's working on models I'm programming everything

[sudden ravine]

Ohhh

Are y’all gonna look for an animator eventually? Or are you guys gonna do it by yourselves

[grim bridge]

we're reusing assets that are from our game that we released around may, that's what this moon is based off

[sudden ravine]

Asking cause there’s some relented people here

[grim bridge]

if we need them; someone has actually already offered

[sudden ravine]

Good to know

[grim bridge]

but since we have a repository of existing assets we do already have animations to work with

The Wanderer's anim for example

it does look a lot better in unreal for some reason. mustve been some settings I applied in engine and forgot about

I actually think it's because he's bigger than he should be

[median ingot]

i see i just think these textures look to bland for a game like this with somewhat realistic outsides grass trees, dessert, snow, etc but it always have a bit of a realistic view

these textures feels a bit cartoonish or something along those lines it looks like placeholder textures for a game like this imo

thats what i thought it was when i read WIP

[sudden ravine]

Yeah this kinda nails what I was thinking

[grim bridge]

OYH's style is a lot more cartoony than LC's is

[sudden ravine]

I’m pretty sure it’s called a artstyle clash

[grim bridge]

this is partially purposeful as we wanted to really get across the idea of this being an alien planet

[sudden ravine]

where they look vastly different

[grim bridge]

but I don't want it to be too jarring to the point it's distracting

just disconcerting

[median ingot]

where is the moon planet with gravity at

[sudden ravine]

It’s not a bad thing for projects but it feels off putting and not part of the game

[median ingot]

route moon

[sudden ravine]

Jupiter planet and you just get crushed with ur ship and die

[median ingot]

maybe i will change my mind when you update the textures to look a bit better we'll see

[sudden ravine]

That should be how lc ends

[sudden ravine]

Yeah it needs a little tinkering

[median ingot]

here are some themes i found on google that looks a bit more aliien planet like i think

i dont like the trees especially on the planet you made those look not very good

[alpine crypt]

skullcrusher i love u thx for your help

[grim bridge]

:)

glad to help always

trees are probably staying the way they are unless we can find a good way to leverage unity's foliage system

absolutely terrible compared to unreal's

Well not completely the way they are

but I'm not spoiling what im changing youll see soon

[median ingot]

yeah i hate unity as well

yeah gl

[merry canyon]

🧘

it sits

[alpine crypt]

also @grim bridge how did you add a script to the enemy? whenever I run it it says the script is missing

I have it added to the prefab, and a script in the mod with the same name

[smoky sigil]

this makes me very excited for the future of this games modding scene.

[grim bridge]

this honestly represent a culmination of a lot of what we've learned so far

a few things here are new (last custom moon was LC_Construct which didn't support interiors, being able to navigate an outdoor enemy on custom level geo as well)

[smoky sigil]

very impressive nonetheless, good job on the mod

[grim bridge]

thank you

I hope the release will entertain everyone

I'm putting just about the next two weeks into custom AIs. Want them to really sell the idea of this being its own unique location

[true magnet]

Bro keep cooking this shit looks fire as fuck

[grim bridge]

:)

[steep thistle]

[civic pelican]

Some of those outside textures seem to tile pretty badly, and also seem like they are lacking mipmaps. But overall this looks really cool, especially that interior shot

[grim bridge]

Yep, those are settings I'm gonna be playing with tomorrow

yall will be the first to see 🫡

[steep thistle]

i'm blown away, custom moon already

[alpine crypt]

keep us informed 🫡

[devout hollow]

now this is cool as hell wow

[brazen ocean]

@grim bridge How did you go about adding doors and the shop to moons?

[dull ore]

Hi I'm the artist I was eeping so I couldn't input on the conversation. As far as jarring art styles goes it's a pretty unavoidable problem. We thought about making the art style blend into LC's better towards the begining, but it'd require tossing our repository of models and textures we already made and working from scratch, which'd significantly hinder the scope of the project. So I wouldn't expect that aspect to change all that much.

In regards to the tiling and bland-ness, we had a solution for this back when we were making the game all these assets are from but it utilized Unreal's not dogshit foliage system. There is something I'd wanna give a shot but Unity def makes it harder. But hopefully we can fix that issue

[median ingot]

i see well gl with that

[dull ore]

That being said there's def a few aspects I can probably tweak. The trees texture in particular was made in mind with the trees being way smaller and more clustered. We ended up scaling up the trees and making the sparser and I thought that'd be like, ok. But yeah we can def touch that texture, make it a bit higger res to match the texture density

[steep thistle]

I like the trees tbh, I just have a hard time imagining the overall color palette outside with LC

I don't think it's impossible to make it work though, and maybe it might be more of a thing of that tiled texture to me, I'm not sure

[dull ore]

Yeah nah you're totally right

[steep thistle]

I think another thing is the barrenness of the land. It's glaring that there's not more plants and rocks and stuff compared to even the game's normal barren desert maps

[dull ore]

Normally we have a kinda funky alien fungus grass to cover the tiling but I cut it cause Unity's foliage system sucks

Though it'd be good enough but I can def see now that it isnt

So yeah there WILL be grass

I just dont know how we're gonna implement it yet

LOL

[steep thistle]

The inside area is nice. Personally, I think it would look nice if you only made a section of the center pillar rotate, so it's less like a disco ball.

Like, keep it still, but have maybe the top or middle with a section with bigger windows that does spin, it'd give a look akin to a spinning emergency alarm/police light.

Whatever that thing is lol.

The outside area does give me an alternate planet vibe. Kinda like Zanaris in runescape, which also had blue land.

[dull ore]

That's a p good idea actually, yeah. Shouldn't be too hard to do either

[steep thistle]

Based off the name I expect colorful bubbly masses of slime or plants like that waterfall you got going on.

Oh, here's a fun detail

The game also just simply tiles textures

But there must be some reasons players never notice that...

[dull ore]

Oh def

Line of sight blockers, texture size, and also the fact thst the textures don't have mich detail work in its favor

Line of sight blockers is also one thing I wanna improve on here

[steep thistle]

yea, also the black spots in your terrain create a noticeable contrast, compared to LC's terrain

[median ingot]

is that march

[steep thistle]

yes

forgot to mention I love the weird zigzaggy square construct inside the building to the left

[median ingot]

why did this game have to be made in unity

[dull ore]

Yeah I feel that

[median ingot]

its going to rob the dev because its popular as well

[dull ore]

Makes it especially hard for me cause for some reason Unity won't actuslly work quite right for me.

So I have to do most of my level design work in fuckin blender and import that LOL

I will never complain abiut Unreal ever again after being forced to use Unity

[steep thistle]

hahaha

[dull ore]

Anyways anyways, I'll try and iterate on it and see what y'all think

[steep thistle]

Love to see artists who can take feedback <3

[median ingot]

based

[dull ore]

Also hopefully line of sight blockers will make the level feel bigger and denser.

[sinful vault]

Damn the mod look so nice :>

[sweet bough]

Keeping thatr in mind

[pure vessel]

This is fire

[smoky sigil]

so does this mod rely on Lethal Expansion? I saw this mod the other day, thought it was neat https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/HolographicWings/LethalExpansion/

[grim bridge]

nope, LethalLib actually

Havent heard of this

[steep thistle]

ooo

I will maybe definitely use something like that when I get there

[grim bridge]

oh yeah goes without saying but dont expect very heavy cross compatability with other mods. thats like bottom of the priority list rn

hey can yall actually see the second half of the OP message btw?

[grim bridge]

there should be a description and features list beneath the exposition

[smoky sigil]

Yeah we can see it, looks neat

[grim bridge]

not showing up on aliucord for some reason

ty for verifying that

[smoky sigil]

i am curious what the new "custom security" is 🤔
is it a new trap like the turrets and the mines?

[grim bridge]

exactly right

[steep thistle]

discord forums are weird, they start you at the bottom of the discussion so it's hard to get back up to the first post without it being pinned

[grim bridge]

bit ambitious but hopefully I can get it working

yeah for real

[slim folio]

this looks amazing, I really can't wait to see more!

[narrow wind]

bro this looks great, keep it up

especially that interior

this game needs tons of new interiors to keep it feeling fresh

any idea on how long until you plan on releasing the first version of this mod to the public? @grim bridge

[grim bridge]

Current hopes is a christmas release, or sometime around it

depends how long certain things take

[narrow wind]

sounds good man no rush

[teal linden]

THIS IS GOING TO BE EPIC

[grim bridge]

Alright chat, got some new footage of the exterior for ya

What do y'all think? Better (👍) or not Better (👎) than the original?

I reduced the saturation on a lot of the textures (mainly the floor), made the old trees smaller and gave them a new texture, added a new tree type and some other foliage (thanks @dull ore )

if we're happy with this I'll call the exterior a day and fully shift focus to AIs

[alpine crypt]

way better

also would be cool if there was more volumetric fog maybe so you can't see so far? rend, titan, etc do that to hide stuff in the distance

which adds a lot to the mystery

[grim bridge]

that would actually do a lot to make the walk to the facility less brisk, which is something I remember us talking about

@dull ore thoughts on that?

[steep thistle]

the tiled terrain texture still gets me

but it is looking better with the new foliage

and colors

[grim bridge]

I think someone above posted a good way to break that up

[steep thistle]

you might also consider toning down the contrast in one tile with the black spots

I think that's a big factor

[grim bridge]

oh you mean reduce the contrast of the floor texture?

[steep thistle]

yea, because LC's terrain is also tiled just the same way, but it blends in a lot more because the texture is mostly a blend of one color

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same thing I mentioned here

[grim bridge]

ah that's what I was thinking of

[steep thistle]

the black lines on your brown terrain show a lot easier

[dull ore]

I literally asked if this was possinle and you said no

[grim bridge]

how long ago was that

[steep thistle]

no way to retain marsh's fog?

[dull ore]

Like a few weeks

[grim bridge]

I probably thought it wasnt possible at the time lmao

[dull ore]

We def wouldnt want to

Vow's fog is brownish

[grim bridge]

it's vow not march we're using as a base

[dull ore]

Wouldnt fit

We'd wanna set the color ourselves

Anyways the way LC does fog is really weird. It dowsnt use post processing volumes it uses triggers

Iirc

[grim bridge]

might be a unity vs unreal thing

[dull ore]

Unity my beloathed

[alpine crypt]

is volumetric fog a post processing effect...?

[grim bridge]

depends on your implementation

[dull ore]

I dont think most LC moons use volumetric fog?

Rend and Dine do but I dont think vow does

[grim bridge]

I think rend and dine use a 3d texture for fog actually

maybe

don't quote me on that I've just seen a texture that looks vaguely correct before lmao

[dull ore]

I should prolly wait till im home to actually crack Unity open before I keep yapping

Lol

[grim bridge]

if you are good with fog I will look into adding it

which is what it sounds like

[dull ore]

Yeah Ixve wanted fog from the begining

[dull ore]

I may have to just remake the texture to be bigger and brute force it lnao

Not exactly what I wanna do but idk how much more we can afford to hide it with foliage

[steep thistle]

what about recoloring the black part to be closer in shade to the rest of the texture

[grim bridge]

to be clear Chdata you're talking about the path texture, right? the one on the left here

[steep thistle]

mainly that one yes

[grim bridge]

honestly laz maybe we just remove the mulch? or replace it with something

[alpine crypt]

idek what that is

snakes?

spaghetti?

[grim bridge]

on the right is tentacles. the ground is alive

the left has been walked on so many times that the poor thing has been squished and doesn't move around anymore

[dull ore]

So to be clear the blue part is mainly fine you think?

If that's case I totally can just touch u0 the mulchy one

[steep thistle]

Yeah the blue seems alright

tiling is much less noticeable there

the brown looks like an excel spreadsheet however

[dull ore]

Aight bet

[grim bridge]

works for me

up next I will hopefully be showcasing the AI for the little guy that's appeared in both videos

won't be giving away everything, but I will spoiler tag it all anyway

[steep thistle]

[dull ore]

I wonder if maybe also a third texture varient might also help? @grim bridge

[grim bridge]

couldn't hurt

[past venture]

there is a distinct lack of fog

[steep thistle]

lol

[grim bridge]

we discussed this, the fog is coming

the fog is coming

the fog is coming

[past venture]

Ooblterra (Foggy)

can't wait

[steep thistle]

This conversation suddenly becomes very funny if you replace Fog with Frog in your mind

[dull ore]

the frog is coming

[steep thistle]

Oobleterra (Froggy)

there is a distinct lack of frog

[grim bridge]

@dull ore do we put in the frogpoles

I wonder if they'd work

theyd be a great way to test if I can get lurkers working

[dull ore]

god no

the frogpoles are my second biggest disgrace they look like dogshit

[grim bridge]

still probably gonna use them for testing :^)

[steep thistle]

oh boy

I can't believe I'm hearing that term again

[dull ore]

my 2nd least favorite child

[grim bridge]

hi frogpole :)

[fiery rune]

Better, I feel like it should have some more dense foliage and/or hills and rocks that block sightlines and stuff to make it feel less flat and direct. Also could use some more dense lighting with fog and stuff.
On a note with the texturing, it could really benefit from textures that feel less repeating and looping, with more variation and stuff like the main game maps

The current plants could use some more "fluff" like leaves and stuff, so they feel less like dev spheres and stuff, giving them some depth

[grim bridge]

fog and looping textures are what we're currently targeting

[fiery rune]

ok yea I probably shoulda scrolled up slightly and saw your message lmao

[grim bridge]

brought up the fluff on the trees I think that's a good idea

no worries I appreciate the feedback regardless

[alpine crypt]

hey @grim bridge how'd yall get your enemy to move reliably? mine keeps going thru walls

[grim bridge]

are you working with exterior or interior stuff?

[fiery rune]

I was thinking of some ways to make the outside feel larger than it is(like the vanilla maps do), and had a neat idea for some future modded moon, were you start off close to the fire exit, but the way to the main entrance is dangerous and much harder, and leads to a room with extra loot in it

[rigid lily]

@digital lagoon

[alpine crypt]

interior

[grim bridge]

I would say investigate your hitboxes

[alpine crypt]

but exterior too, it started going thru the floor

its using a navmeshagent

[grim bridge]

but otherwise I have no idea im not at interiors yet

[alpine crypt]

ok 😔

[grim bridge]

anyway yall if you want help with something youve seen here feel completely free to ask me, but I would prefer it be asked in #dev-general

would like to restrict this to feedback for the sake of making looking back through it easier thank you

[alpine crypt]

ok 😔

[dull ore]

improved tree model, should be less dev orby

smh you guys are forcing me to stop cutting corners

[winter cairn]

If you need any help with models/testing let me know ^-^

[civic pelican]

@dull ore Apologies for my texture, but I'm not an artist. I do like the textures and concept, it's mainly just that some of them contain low frequency information that tiles a bit.

I took my example texture in gimp and used the Wavelet-decompose filter to remove some of the low frequency info, it still looks roughly the same, but the tiling is much less noticeable.

[dull ore]

wavelet-decompose?

i don't use GIMP so idk much about this

[civic pelican]

Yeah, I do not remember if it's preinstalled in gimp but for me it's under the Enhance -> Wavelet decompose section, but any tool that can help remove low frequency detail would help. If that is too flat then there is also the Detail map in Unity that can help add some variation back to it

[dull ore]

low frequency detail?

[grim bridge]

visible islands I think

anyway I can download gimp and give this a shot

[dull ore]

nah i'd rather try it out if it's something we can apply in general

[grim bridge]

@civic pelican , which textures do you think this is specifically a problem for? I assume the floor, are they any others?

sure, that makes sense

[civic pelican]

Yeah apologies I don't know how to explain the idea of low vs high frequency detail, and it's mainly just the brown outside texture I noticed in the second preview

[dull ore]

oh well we replaced it anyways

LOL

[civic pelican]

ah understandable, then don't worry about it I suppose

[grim bridge]

we could also apply this to the blue part of the texture though

[dull ore]

it's now just a tinted version of the blue one

[grim bridge]

probably still good to look into for future reference anyway, so thank you

seems highly applicable

[dull ore]

i'll give it a look see next time im making textures

[civic pelican]

This is essentially all I did, with each layer less you get only finer and finer detail, but at a certain point it looks odd so I usually just do layer's 7 and 6

[dull ore]

huh

interesting

[steep thistle]

🤩

[past venture]

what difficulty will ooblterra be?

[grim bridge]

TBD, it mostly depends on how hard the AI actually end up being

what I'm targetting is for Ooblterra to fit nicely in the in-between for the free and paid planets

somewhere around March/Offense difficulty

[past venture]

👍

also, once it's a bit more developed, would you happen to need testers for it?

[grim bridge]

Yep, that'll probably be closer to christmas

I will pull from here dont even worry abt it

[digital galleon]

Looking forwards to this mod release, awesome undertaking, good luck!

[red spear]

would shading/lighting be possible for this? It just looks, a little odd.

[digital galleon]

Some fog would probably help a lot

Extra fog

Can hide a lot with fog

[grim bridge]

we are planning on adding fog yep

there are lights I might try making them brighter

I do prefer the darker look of the scene so no promises

more pictures tmr 👍

[digital galleon]

Dope looking forwards to it, good stuff!

[red spear]

i just feel like fog and more lighting would add alot.

[grim bridge]

I agree that's why im addin it lmao

I think actually adding local lights instead of playing with the global directional one might be wise

[grim horizon]

release it

[grim bridge]

well yeah what am I gonna do make all this and then not release it

[median ingot]

Its looking a lot nicer

[rigid lily]

Don't release it out of spite

[steep thistle]

release it, but just the graphics files. so it's "released"

[dull ore]

some room progress

[median ingot]

first room is cozy

it looks a little big though but maybe its fine

[dull ore]

all rooms are the same size as the ones in the mansion layout

[median ingot]

i dont understand what im looking at in the 2nd room

oh i see

is that a portal what is that

[dull ore]

rn the way we're making custom interiors work is essentially by writing over rooms in the mansion layout. So we're limited to making rooms the same size and with the same entrances as the ones in the mansion layout

[median ingot]

oh i see

[west flame]

yoo we can make maps?

[dull ore]

2nd room is a sorta giant fleshy plug

[median ingot]

have you seen the sdk tools someone made

[grim bridge]

the layout honestly reminds me of those bfg test fire rooms in doom 2016

[west flame]

no

[median ingot]

maybe it can make ur level design more free instead of being limited by presets of current maps

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/HolographicWings/LethalSDK/

refering to this

[grim bridge]

this seems to just be for outside layouts

I do actually have an acquaintance or two working on fully custom dungeons

[median ingot]

that very well might be true i didnt look much into it i just know what an SDK is

[grim bridge]

we havent fully cracked it yet

getting closer

[median ingot]

i see i hope you will be able to do so

[grim bridge]

WTO will prolly just use this solution unless we manage to get that working prior to christmas

[dull ore]

tweaked the materials and mesh so it's a bit more obvious it's a plug

[grim bridge]

Laz lemme see the machine room

[grim bridge]

:)

Do you know if the scale is near what it is in OYH?

[dull ore]

almost certainly not

but idk really

[grim bridge]

unfortunate but still cool

[dull ore]

i'm kinda freeballing with the scale unless i can figure out a good way to make a reference

[grim bridge]

Might be able to just throw you the scavenger model

wait

[dull ore]

i have it, but it's not to scale i don't think

[median ingot]

damn cool design on that room

[grim bridge]

right

[dull ore]

actually wait rq

how tall is the scavenger compared to doorways

[grim bridge]

It should be I just stole it from the prefab

I mean he should at least fit and take up most of it

[dull ore]

My favorite part of doing this btw is that the origins for all the rooms aren't the same lmao

There is 0 consistancy

[winter cairn]

You can get the model of the crew member from the game files; It what I use. When I’m back at the computer I’ll post it, y’all working in blender?

[grim bridge]

We do already have his model we're just not sure if it scales properly

we are working in blender yes

[winter cairn]

If you ripped it from level 4 it is to scale

The model is hidden below the map and referenced as “scale reference”

It’s what I’m using for Aquarius and the height hasn’t been an issue

[grim bridge]

huh no shit there he is

new video ‼️

fog is finally in, we would love to change its color but the script isnt loaded in Unity so I cant tell what variable that'd be

[steep thistle]

the fog adds so much

[grim bridge]

with everything laz threw in the overworld + the fog it honestly feels kinda like a jungle now

and im not knocking that Im actually really happy with it

[dull ore]

i do wish the fog played better with flashlights

but

nto much we can do about that

[median ingot]

wow its so much better

[steep thistle]

that feels like a place with toxic air

just like the info says

[obtuse raptor]

Hey friends! Not sure if all the stuff your messing with is unreleased sauce ya'll are cooking up or not. I'm looking to add new rooms and stuff to the pre-existing layouts in the game and would love some advice. (I have a history of development in Unity but new to modding)

[grim bridge]

its unreleased

someone is working on getting custom interiors working and I'll get back to you on how we're doing that

a

[obtuse raptor]

Ah I see! Yeah I'd love to know how that progresses. Would love to practice some level design with this game.

Out of curiousity, What are the big pain points with custom interiors?

[grim bridge]

it seems to be working for them

they haven't reported back on whether monster spawns work properly, but they can generate a custom dungeon and enter it

[abstract reef]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

looking sick soo far tho

[elder garden]

fricking slick, was drunk last night when I was checking it out but its beautiful, can't wait to see when it's out

[solid sentinel]

I need this in my life

[past venture]

i noticed in certain dips in the terrain, the fog doesn't actually reach it, making it look quite odd. also, perhaps the fog could just be maybe a little thicker? i feel like more fog could make the place feel more mysterious, though less fog improves the reveal of this moon being far more alien when you first land

[grim bridge]

The biggest issue is that I cant really access the fog class so I cant play with very many of the variables, at least right now

that said I am at least happy that most suggestions are of this nature because at this point all of its is just tweaks

[past venture]

ah, alright 👍

[grim bridge]

If I manage to figure it out I'll actually maybe consider tying the fog to the TOD system, given the planets brightness never changes

IE the fog gets denser the further into the day you go

[stable walrus]

Does Ooblterra have a consistent design inside or does it have random generation like vanilla moons?

[grim bridge]

nope, its a random layout

obviously the start room will always be the same, but

[stable walrus]

awesome, looking forward to it

[obtuse raptor]

Asking as a curious new modder, Why can’t you access the fog class?

[grim bridge]

when I click into LocalVolumetricFog it gives me a missing script

I suspect its because its made with a plugin I dont have or something of the like

If I knew what the class was I could try and see all its member variables via code but no such luck

I can look into it, UABE might help

[obtuse raptor]

Probably dumb question (I come from unity dev experience but not modded so I might be missing context), Have you checked the HDRP specific using? HDRP has some specific fog stuff https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/[email protected]/manual/Volumes-API.html#changing-volume-profile-properties

[grim bridge]

I have not, I am very new to unity

thanks, I will follow this down see if it helps

[obtuse raptor]

👍👍

Very interested in messing with custom levels so lmk if there’s anything I can help with

[past venture]

getting back to the ship when the ship's close to leaving

https://tenor.com/view/superbowlsunday-theweeknd-weeknd-halftime-show-gif-20283693

[obtuse raptor]

Is the developer working on custom interior prefabs/ layouts in this discord?

[grim bridge]

they're in the unoffical community discord

I'll probably throw them an inv here since they're quasi on the team

[dark cradle]

looks so much better with fog

i really like this mod

[grim bridge]

thank you! hopefully the release will live up to the hype

new monster demo tomorrow, hopefully

[sweet bough]

Hey, was wondering, does the moon have a fire exit and if so, how hard it is to access?

[grim bridge]

It does! I can talk about it tomorrow underneath some spoiler tags

[sage moon]

just wanted to say this mod looks insanely promising, all teasers so far have been crazy, looking forward to release 👀

[sweet bough]

neat can't wait for tommorow

Also, will it be for V.45 or V.44?

just wondering if im gonna get noscoped by a nutcracker even on new moons

[grim bridge]

its for v45, but Ooblterra by default will only spawn its custom monsters

there will ideally be a config option to allow all monsters to spawn there, and one to allow Ooblterra monsters to spawn on other planets

[sweet bough]

aah interesting

May I ask why?

[grim bridge]

why what specifically?

[sweet bough]

why not let the other fellas spawn?

[grim bridge]

since Ooblterra is its own unique planet with its own unique interiors I also want that to reflect in its enemy roster. Really feel like a completely different place instead of just another moon

also reflected in the art style, lack of a day-night lighting difference, etc

[sweet bough]

Btw I love the art style

[grim bridge]

@dull ore hey look

thats our artist he does fantastic work

[sweet bough]

Yeah I saw, that fella does great work, really can't wait to get my hands on that moon with my friends

And I understand what you mean, the red interior is a tad weird with Ennemies like Loot Bugs or Thumpters

[grim bridge]

of course if thats what you as the player want, you can have it, hence the config

[sweet bough]

Also, how hard is it to make custom moons

I have never modded and can't barely make a Donut in blender but LC has made me want to mod

[grim bridge]

Most of it was just figuring out how at first

when WTO launches it will hopefully come with tools + tutorials to make the process easier in future for others

but its modeling, texturing, and unity mainly

some c# ofc

[sweet bough]

Neat ! Well thank you SkullCrusher

[grim bridge]

cheers

[tardy flower]

When poop mod coming

[river plume]

Man I got a ton of experience in modelling and texturing (and other languages than c#); but nothing with Unity at all, if you ever want another modeller/texture creator (for misc models) I'm totally down to help. I'm gonna search for some information now on how I could even start modding, but have fun! Looks like an amazing project.

[tardy flower]

Didnt know it said thst

Also that wasn’t directed towards anybody

[river plume]

lmao

[tardy flower]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-in-the-hood-he-was-runing-from-the-cop-car-gif-2721313015240083908

[river plume]

i'll make sure to subscribe

[tardy flower]

Just checked the rules i zont think it breaks any

[river plume]

(it was funny)

[tardy flower]

Bruh

[river plume]

i mean tell me, is it not why does a random gif of a guy smiling have racism in the tags

[tardy flower]

Cuz its a clip coming from a guy in a airplane yelling the n word

The clip in the gif is just him smiling

[river plume]

lmfao nice

[grim bridge]

this mod is so popular we already have totally unrelated shitposting im so proud

wish it were something less racy but yknow its what I can get

[tardy flower]

Its comes in the package

https://tenor.com/view/star-rail-picmix-honkai-hsr-honkai-star-rail-gif-13211506784059878620

[river plume]

yeah, 3.99

[tardy flower]

2

[empty hearth]

where can i download

[dull ore]

In the future (it's not finished yet)

[stable walrus]

Are all enemies already thought of? Like the ideas/models

[dull ore]

A lot of their gameplay is tentative right now, though we're heading towards a clearer picture. But as far as models go they are all pretty much done, since they're just ports of monsters from our game that we're pulling from for the moon

I've had to make one new enemy model and I might have to make one more and make some adjustments, but I visually they're more or less done

[stable walrus]

Ah I was hoping I could suggest a mechanic for a monster, a monster who barely peaks its head around a corner, and if you get too close or stare for too long it attacks/eats you whatever

[lost skiff]

Thats just like the bracken with some added steps

[grim bridge]

A lot of the conceptual work is making sure the monsters arent just rehashes of existing ideas, or at very least that we put some kind of spin on them

that said I just watched Predator and Aliens yesterday with a friend so if youve seen either of those, expect some familiar concepts

[sage moon]

ngl that sounds horrifying given the game's context

sounds good lmao

[zenith nebula]

Ayo, custom dungeon fella here

[grim bridge]

alright cool

[dull ore]

Actually on the note of monsters, I guess since all the monsters are more or less predesigned i can show some of em off

[grim bridge]

hold off

I dont wanna show off anything till its implemented

[dull ore]

fair nuf

[tardy flower]

Up ass, to left

[grim bridge]

Safety First!
Regarding Ooblterra's fire exit.

|| The members of the Followers Applied Sciences Division (henceforth FSD) were faced with two problems. First, that they had lots of water waste runoff that they couldn't find a good place to filter. Second, that their building wasn't up to code and needed some sort of fire escape. Some genius thought, "Hey man, if you're on fire, you're gonna want water anyway, right?" and decided to put the fire exit right over the runoff.||

||This actually saved more lives for them than you'd think. For you, however, it means either using an extension ladder to access it, or having some confidence in your jumping abilities.||

||You'd better have that confidence, though, because Ooblterra's water is acidic. Very acidic. Taking any kind of dip will be very poor for your health.||

[median ingot]

this is cool

maybe you can add an after effect when exiting the water

since its acid

[grim bridge]

having it linger for a few seconds isn't a bad idea

[median ingot]

well normally you would prob just die touching that

[grim bridge]

most of that is down to balancing

[dull ore]

Seeing this fire exit function in its intended purpose as we talked about on paper is better than sex imho

[median ingot]

parkour to fire exit is cool

[grim bridge]

simple risk reward relationship, I also want ||players to think twice when they're carrying a lot of stuff on taking the fire exit home||

[median ingot]

on Dine you can cheese ur way up to the fire exit with just buffering sprint jump

[grim bridge]

||weight doesnt ACTUALLY effect your jump height but not only do most players not know that, not being able to run out of the water if you fail is terrible||

[median ingot]

oh yeah thats smart

yeah i like it

very cool idea

[dull ore]

You will need to make it so the water almost always does more than 25 damage per average dip8

Otherwise a player can always make it out as long as they wait for natural health regen

[grim bridge]

that's pretty advanced tbf but I guess that's true

in that clip ||I got hit about 10 times so a damage value of 3 should be a good balance||

actually that's lower than its current value so I'll keep it where it is

[dull ore]

Ok baller

[topaz bison]

ayo this looks sick!

[sweet bough]

Are you sure the fire exit is up to code?

I mean, Im not sure It’s very OSHA approved

[grim bridge]

im fairly certain osha prohibits fire exits perching over pools of deadly acid water

luckily theres no osha in space

[sweet bough]

Nightmare Space or Heaven Space, who really knows

[topaz bison]

for a moment, i thought you meant taking the fire exit door back to the ship

like the physical door off its hinges

[grim bridge]

mine now

[topaz bison]

xd

only thing im worried about are my friend's pc's on whether it can handle the new moon

[grim bridge]

If you can run lethal company you can run WTO

Honestly I venture to guess the scene's poly count is probably lower than your average lc planet

[topaz bison]

lmao

any vids/peaks on the new enemies you mentioned?

or is that gonna be a surprise until release?

[grim bridge]

like I told laz I want to save any reveals until theyre implemented

but just like with the fire exit, theyll be posted here under spoiler tags

[topaz bison]

ah alright

[dull ore]

This might not be the case

WOT has less polygons per model but it also is more populated than an average LC moon, and also most of the constructions aren't just stretched out cubes lol

[grim bridge]

that is true

[tardy flower]

When can i crank 90’s in lethal company

[topaz bison]

When the fortnite mod arrives

[round minnow]

soon...

[past venture]

hm, i particularly like the starting room with the red light, perhaps more lights like that could be added around the facility?

[grim bridge]

that is the hope

I love lighting tricks like that as long as they dont end up being too expensive to render we can definitely play around with similar ideas

[faint linden]

looks sick af

[mild condor]

do you plan to implement flooding to this moon?

[grim bridge]

if Ooblterra is to have any weather it'll be custom

I have two ideas for that

flooding may not work programatically and definitely won't work conceptually so I'm not huge on using existing moon weathers

that said, being able to use them on Ooblterra will be a config option, as well as being able to use Ooblterra's weathers on the other moons

[topaz bison]

acid rain

toxic air to replace flood. like your oxygen tank or gas mask has a certain amount of durability

btw, would ooble be a paid planet like titan?

[grim bridge]

Current plan is for it to be around 100-200 credits, so it fits nicely in the inbetween slot

also configurable

I like user settings in case that isnt apparent

[topaz bison]

ah i see

since its around that price range, im gonna assume its not gonna be like an S+ hazard level

[grim bridge]

honestly depends. I have no way of quite conceptualizing how difficult all the monsters are when thrown together in the same map

[grim horizon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/853896519336722454.gif?size=48&name=SCsleeping&quality=lossless

[topaz bison]

with the additional monsters u mentioned ur adding, it probably would be quite high in difficulty with the already dozen vanilla enemies

[grim bridge]

Oh the vanilla enemies will be off by default

again, configurable

but I really wanna sell alien planet. want the place to feel completely new

[topaz bison]

damn everyhting is configurable lmao

[topaz bison]

ah i get you

[topaz bison]

well since u got acidic water, hope you can somehow play around my weather suggestions

[grim bridge]

like I said I really like player options

Of course, this is all "If I can get it working". some of these config options might need to be added post-launch

[topaz bison]

idk how you'd do acid rain, but if you do, tops to you!

[grim bridge]

oh, some of those ideas are similar to things I've thought up already

[topaz bison]

awesome

[topaz bison]

yeah thats understandable

[median ingot]

could be like a 350 $ A tier planet

[grim bridge]

could be yeah

[median ingot]

with a rare chance of being S

[grim bridge]

like I said, ideally mid range, between March and Rend

[median ingot]

like very low chance

[grim bridge]

I don't actually know if I can slot it in there in the moon list, I think it's possible via regex

[topaz bison]

this suggestions sounds a bit too extra, but you could add in some conditions to unlock it. Like finding 3 Tape Logs that talk about "Alien Planet", "Coordinates", "Weather" or whatever u wanna add in em

really making it seem alien that even the company doesnt have it in it's planet list

[grim bridge]

not a bad idea but I like the little tidbit I came up with for the OP

[topaz bison]

what's that?

the vid u sent?

trailer*

[grim bridge]

in the OP there's a short lore blurb explaining how the company found the planet

oh

OP = Original Post

[topaz bison]

ah'

tbh thought that meant as "opening"

[lunar skiff]

Fuuuck. They beat me to the punch with the sdk and everything

Unless the sdk doesn't support custom scenes, cause that's what I'm trying to build my sdk around

[smoky sigil]

There sdk does support custom scenes I believe but competition doesn't hurt

Also it isnt very good, could definitely be better for sure

Like I'm pretty sure it doesn't support custom interiors at all and it's pretty poorly documented last I checked

[past venture]

their sdk doesn't support the item dropship

[smoky sigil]

Lmao fr??

[zenith nebula]

there's the custom moon API which was released pretty close to when the game came out that's pretty underwhelming, but from what I've seen the lethal expansion SDK is better and I think supports the drop pod

[grim bridge]

bizzlemip's MoonAPI was essentially a spring point I had to build a whole lot off of

I do still prefer my solution because adding in a prefab is easier to me than having to set up all the stuff that's required in the scene

[past venture]

desc of this mod https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/DynamicFlight/Hostile/ says it doesn't support dropship, and was uploaded more recently than lethalexpansion's last update

[grim bridge]

I wouldn't be able to use fog for example if I was using a custom scene

since the script isn't loading properly

[smoky sigil]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/sfDesat/Orion/ this mod last updated today, apparently the dropship does work here

[past venture]

hm

[grim bridge]

oh shit

competition

[zenith nebula]

the base game just throws a bunch of fully dynamic lights basically everywhere especially in the mansion so I think you'll be good

[grim bridge]

are they all fully dynamic???

why????

couldnt they just be stationary??????

[zenith nebula]

I don't think unity lets you use stationary/static lights for spawnable stuff

[grim bridge]

ooooh

that's a really odd limitation but I guess I get it

[zenith nebula]

but yeah every light in the dungeon is a realtime light

[grim bridge]

Still though the entry room effect has more more concerned about shadows than the lights themselves

thems also aint cheap

[smoky sigil]

i have heard too many people say this games graphics being bad mean it can run on a potato, and as someone who plays on a potato, that is categorically false.

[zenith nebula]

yeah nah rendering all those lights are definitely not cheap at all

[smoky sigil]

sure, it RUNS, just not very well and not without mods lol

[smoky sigil]

it also dosent help the game runs like 600 if statements every frame for some reason

[zenith nebula]

eh sometimes that can't be helped if you've got a lot of complex stuff going on

[grim bridge]

AI is notorious for this

actually the if statements arent whats killing you its the debug logging

which there are 600 instances of every frame

[smoky sigil]

is there a mod that disables these 🥹

[grim bridge]

not that I know of. to my understanding thatd require a LOT of transpiling

although this should only be a problem if you have the console open in the first place? (IE like most mods do) maybe? I don't use unity much so I don't know

Unreal flags debug logs (print strings) as development only and automatically rips them out of consumer builds but obviously unity doesnt do the same

[smoky sigil]

i feel like i have never heard anything positive about unity ever lmao

[grim bridge]

Having now had experience with both teams I will say that the way unity does components is very very clever and prefabs are a very useful tool

most everything else is a drawback

[smoky sigil]

like i always hear "unreal has x feature that makes everyone life 100x easier but unitys alternative will make your life miserable" lol

[grim bridge]

so in unreal if you want to know where a sound file or texture or object is being used you can right click on it and bring up a "reference viewer" that shows you exactly that

unity has zero equivalent to this out of the box

which is devastating because thats very useful for understanding how things work

in context of modding a game

unreal also lets you alt click and drag to instantly duplicate and move an actor, which is nice if youre placing down, say, a bunch of trees in a scene and want to easily populate the map

unity needs you to ctrl+c and ctrl+v everything

speaking of trees unreal lets you paint foliage onto anything whereas unity wants it only on terrain actors it seems

all things that have made ooblterra development way more difficult than it really should be

that said I don't know how moddable unreal games are in the first place

they tend to have things locked down over there, encryption and shit

[smoky sigil]

simply remake the entire game in unreal next time lul

[grim bridge]

add a bunch of needless hdr and bloom and make the models super insanely high res

[smoky sigil]

and nanites

[zenith nebula]

C# is definitely nicer for modding since IL is way easier to reverse engineer than assembled c++ code

[grim bridge]

gangsta until you get to blueprints though

[zenith nebula]

barring blueprints

[grim bridge]

surely there is some sort of decompile solution for blueprints right

[zenith nebula]

for blueprints I think it's pretty easy

though really depends how much unreal c++-ifies stuff

[grim bridge]

I believe as of UE5 they dont do nativization anymore

at very least its no longer an option you can tick

[past venture]

unreal has file sizes to match zip bombs though

or so i've heard

[steep thistle]

you guys wouldn't happen to have done anything similar to...

spawn a custom interactable object (like a ladder or door or lightswitch) in a designated location in a certain map, or even a specific interior room?

I want to spawn a button in the bracken room that does stuff when you press it

[grim bridge]

are you talking about doing this AFTER the maze is generated?

[steep thistle]

yes

[grim bridge]

Because im not sure what you mean by the bracken room

[steep thistle]

that's the room that looks like it's from the backrooms

people call it the bracken room

[grim bridge]

Oh oh I thought you meant whatever favorite spot the bracken picks

[steep thistle]

people think it's related to the bracken

idk tho lol

[grim bridge]

all youd have to do is crack open that rooms prefab, find a unique mesh or something

[rigid lily]

I hate that room, it's always empty

[grim bridge]

then take your custom scripted object and place it at the location of that mesh (or somewhere RELATIVE to that location) via a gameobject.find or a component value comparison or whatever

something that uniquely identifies that room, maybe the name of the mesh

[past venture]

brackrooms. i guess it's just commonly the farthest room from the main entrance, because that's how the bracken picks its room if i remember correctly

[steep thistle]

basing off the textures I think I found it... it just doesn't show up right in unity for me lol

mesh link is broken or something from my rip

[grim bridge]

the reason WTO draws over the manor preset is because the meshes are actually visible in unity

the factory wall meshes are built I think using probuilder

and thus dont survive being assetripped

[steep thistle]

eeenteresting

I guess before that I need to find a way to spawn my button in front of me for realistic testing

[obtuse raptor]

Not without Bakery, Yeah

[steep thistle]

hm, I found what I think is the backroom room but I can't find any of those underground/pipe sections lol

wait maybe that's the HallwayClover... it was so piped I didn't recognize it

[median ingot]

did i not tell you guys about this or maybe i only mentioned their sdk lol

[fiery rune]

Baked lighting right?

[tardy flower]

Tried it, kinda sucks

The map is empty

Not really empty

But theres no terrain

And using it breaks the moons gui

Also it has a test world included with it

Also the entrance is just a white glowing rectangle

[dull ore]

I have never been so relieved in my life i cant lie

[tardy flower]

They just “remade” the moon in new update

So it may be better idk

[dull ore]

I'll chekc it out now that im at home

Gotta scope out our enemy's power yknow

unfortunately i have to report it's fucking sick

[median ingot]

welcome to WIP

[dull ore]

yeah nah ur def not giving it enough credit it's cool

[tardy flower]

Im gunna throw my shit at you

[median ingot]

Waterridge has a decent outside i guess

[grim bridge]

they played an older version

[median ingot]

orion is super wip

[tardy flower]

I havent looked at the new update

[dull ore]

oh ok lol

[median ingot]

oh lol

[tardy flower]

Also didnt know waterridge was a thing

What is it

[median ingot]

i think its Wateridge actually

its in the orion mod or was atleast

[grim bridge]

thats the one thats bundled with lethal expansion

[dull ore]

wateridge is from the SDK, it's not from Orion

[median ingot]

oh nvm then

[tardy flower]

Then y are u mentioning it😭

[median ingot]

it was listed in orion description before

[grim bridge]

its included in the download

[tardy flower]

Poopa

[grim bridge]

and shows up on the moon list

[tardy flower]

is wateridge cool

[median ingot]

he updated this

[dull ore]

yeah it's a test map but it's p neat

[median ingot]

it used to not say included in LethalExpansion

[grim bridge]

anyway I guess technically this would put us second

[median ingot]

its a few days ago i looked at this

[tardy flower]

Does it say test map?

Like in the gui

[grim bridge]

1.0 is still a race but I doubt we'll win that one

[median ingot]

not even 2nd

there is also a half life map

[grim bridge]

not nearly the same scope though

[dull ore]

no there's a seperate 3rd test map

[median ingot]

but orion isnt the first lol

[tardy flower]

Lc_construct

[dull ore]

that's construct, it's cool but it isn't actually functional

[grim bridge]

I mean technically the HL map is second and LC Construct is first

[tardy flower]

fupa

[grim bridge]

but they dont have interiors to my knowledge

[dull ore]

oh wait was there ALSO a HL one?

[median ingot]

the first map was gmod gm_construct

[grim bridge]

Yeah, based on an op4 level

[dull ore]

oh shit

[median ingot]

by bizzlemip

its super ancient shit

[tardy flower]

When do u think ooblterra’s gunna go public

[dull ore]

ok well, we're still in the running for 2nd place on functional moons

[grim bridge]

Christmas is the hope

[tardy flower]

Or like in public alpha

[median ingot]

yeah it wasnt functional inside at all

xD

and dropship didnt work either

[dull ore]

Orion is really cool though honestly, like the aesthetic is gorgeous

[tardy flower]

Have any ideas for the monsters

[median ingot]

i have only seen the super wip of it

[grim bridge]

Honestly I'm just optimistic we'll be the first thing of a comparable scope

[median ingot]

the more moons the better

[grim bridge]

im implementing them as we speak

[dull ore]

it's got missing collission and the doors aren't modelled yet but it's looking great

[grim bridge]

around 5-7 so far

i expect that to take up the rest of the week and then hopefully next week will be alpha testing

[tardy flower]

When i tried it in the other version it had no terrain and like 7 buildings

[grim bridge]

laz your ass really needs to get in gear on the interiors

[dull ore]

my two other jobs are kicking my ass

but yeah i'll get em done

[tardy flower]

Yeah i feel like they should make the trip to the door and the ship a lil longer

[grim bridge]

I think we've cracked custom ones completely so you should have more freedom in that regard now

[dull ore]

this weekend will give me a lotta time

oh shit sick

[tardy flower]

I remember i made a railgun model thing cuz i wanted to make a railgun mod but i didnt have time to do it:(

[dull ore]

how will that work for me exactly?

[grim bridge]

youre no longer restricted on the shape/layout of the room

[tardy flower]

Could gaggleland be a possibility?

[grim bridge]

the doorways still need to be the same size

[dull ore]

right, but i assume i need to accomodate for connections

[grim bridge]

yep

[median ingot]

oh we are getting custom insides?

thats huge

[dull ore]

there seems to be 2 different types of "doorways"

[tardy flower]

Wasnt that already a thing?

[grim bridge]

some are for doors some are for hallways

Ooblterra's solution that was shown in the video was less than ideal

[tardy flower]

How

So

[grim bridge]

@zenith nebula managed to get a completely new solution working for their scp mod

Ooblterra simply took the existing rooms and drew new models over them

for the mansion layout

[tardy flower]

Ohh

Pineapple mod

1/100000 chance to spawn

[dull ore]

btw not relevant entirely but here's Orion

[grim bridge]

huh

[dull ore]

insanely cool aesthetic

[tardy flower]

Looks alot better

[grim bridge]

honestly a lot emptier than I expected

[dull ore]

yeah but it's def intentional

[tardy flower]

They need to fill in some gaps

[median ingot]

i wouldnt judge it yet

[tardy flower]

Or add fog

[median ingot]

its also a good atmosphere

it just looks like a vibe

[tardy flower]

Yeah

[dull ore]

yeah i was kinda blown away but how much of a vibe it is

[grim bridge]

not a judgement, just that the store page made it look like it had a bunch of scrap cars and shit everywhere

[median ingot]

imagine a sandstorm

[tardy flower]

Thats what i thought

[dull ore]

tbf that might be the eventual intention

but just judging it as is I do like the desert look

[tardy flower]

Like it chips away your health?

when in sandstorm

[median ingot]

yeah it looks decent for wip project

[zenith nebula]

I think if it was compressed down a bit to make the empty space less bland it'd be great, the aesthetic is already there

[median ingot]

i like the intentional spacing of open area

[tardy flower]

Yeah i could do it too

I cant cuz i broke my leg

[median ingot]

and he will prob put like a scrapyard somewhere

because of the cars

[dull ore]

i took the pic while flying in, when you actually get in you land decently close to the door

[tardy flower]

He could add more rubble

Or like a crashed airplane

[dull ore]

also i gotta say LC shaders are like

really really good at making literally almost anything look in art style

[tardy flower]

Wym

[dull ore]

you don't need to do too much work to a model to make it fit cause most of LC's style comes from its shaders

[tardy flower]

Oh

I dont realize it has shaders

I feel like if your trying to make a new moon and ur gunna make a custom dungeon, it’ll be hard to get it to make sense of why that dungeons a thing

Like without rehashing other ideas

[zenith nebula]

yeah even super basic assets still look pretty good

[dull ore]

yeah! like it genuinely looks lik you significantly tweaked that from containment breach

even tho i imagine you prolly didnt

[zenith nebula]

yeah it's basically a model rip with custom lights

[dull ore]

btw speaking of, I haven't gotten a chance to talk to you since Skull has been the middleman but holy shit good work on the dungeon stuff. SCP is a good fit

[magic geyser]

make spring head be scp 173

[grim bridge]

that's already a mod aint it?

[magic geyser]

(make it spawn there)

[magic geyser]

yeah but

he can make his own

[dull ore]

also I can tell you have good taste because you're also in the OFF and Nerrel servers 🤝

[zenith nebula]

Probably not gonna have any custom SCP enemies, did want to have some fun reference stuff though like the mask having a guaranteed spawn in 035s room

[magic geyser]

nice

[hard mango]

any links to download?

[magic geyser]

is it gonna have a control room with apparatus

[magic geyser]

its WIP

[hard mango]

i know

didnt know if there was a test map

[grim bridge]

depends which mod youre talking about. and by that I mean no it doesn't theyre both WIP

[zenith nebula]

Not at the moment, don't have anywhere in mind to put it

[grim bridge]

it'll be on thunderstore when it's out

[zenith nebula]

Ready when it's ready etc

[grim bridge]

ok sorry Ooblterra will be on thunderstore when it's out

[dull ore]

OH that reminds me

Skull are we back on for the aparatus concept?

[grim bridge]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1183889212978778173 <-- for SCP discussion to avoid this confusion in future

lmao

[hard mango]

yeh sorry just didnt know if it was posted somewhere

[zenith nebula]

Oh yeah got off topic lol

[grim bridge]

yes it's totally possible for the battery to work the way we originally proposed

[dull ore]

LETS FUCKINGGGGGGGGGG GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[grim bridge]

now that we have custom rooms

very low on the priority list tbh so we'll see if it actually gets implemented, but

[magic geyser]

damn i was on the wrong thread

sorry

[grim bridge]

no worries

discord thread visibility is weird

[zenith nebula]

I'll try and get an alpha for the SCP stuff out by the weekend, then I'll work on ooblterra and see where we can go from there

Was having some lighting issues but I'm assuming that it was just from crappy mesh export so the ooblterra assets should be fine

[grim bridge]

I am so fuckin excited to show off the laboratory

[dull ore]

don't be so sure

i am also dogshit at making and exporting meshes

[grim bridge]

fun fact laz we don't need to export them

unity supports blend files

[dull ore]

wait yo ugot that working?

[grim bridge]

yep

the main terrain just refused to work but it works fine with the interior meshes

[dull ore]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-lets-goo-lest-gooooooooooooooooo-gif-19416648

[zenith nebula]

Whatever you do can't be as bad as dealing with .3dw files

Half the trouble of the SCP mod has been mesh shenanigans so we should be able to hash out ooblterra dungeons super quickly

[dull ore]

hells yeah

[zenith nebula]

Though dealing with a fun and not aggravating bug where adding the fire exit has seemingly caused the main entrance to teleport to the world origin point

[lunar skiff]

did you make this?

[gritty yew]

@grim bridgehi me again! this still uses the replace vow method of making new moons right

also i see you all figured out custom facilities/dungeons

[grim bridge]

yep that is correct

there's an alternative method around at this point

[gritty yew]

what is the alternate method and is there any documentation on how to get started?

[grim bridge]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/HolographicWings/LethalExpansion/

no idea on documentation

[gritty yew]

does orion have a custom interior?

[grim bridge]

nope it's the standard ones to my knowledge

[gritty yew]

huh ok

well good work btw your stuff looks really great

do you plan on making this open source so i can crossreference if i do make a moon

[grim bridge]

Yep! the mod will be open source, Moon tools will be added to LethalLib, and I'll hopefully even write up some tutorials

[gritty yew]

sick! good luck

[stable walrus]

orion is so bad rn ooblterra looks far more complete

[somber shell]

Does Orion crash anyone elses game?

[stable walrus]

i dont think this is the place to ask

[zenith nebula]

No hate to Orion, being the first proper moon mod and all, but yeah ooblterra is definitely more ambitious

[sweet bough]

Wasn't the first proper moon mod LC_Construct?

[wise knot]

oh heck. new tileset and everything.

[dull ore]

No no not me, was posting screenshots from it since it was being talked about

[tardy flower]

Could i make moving terrain/parts that are apart of the outside with the moon tools api?

[grim bridge]

as long as you get it scripted in unity, yeah

[dull ore]

It's def not lmao we have a long way to go. Orion is definitely much closer to completion.

Also be nice to them they're definitely working hard on something they're passionate about too and imo it's coming out really sick.

[obtuse raptor]

There is a way to disable these all at once I think, I’ll have to find it tomorrow

[tardy flower]

I think ooblterra just has good graphics and models

[gloomy light]

does this mean lethalexpansion will not be required in the future i.e Orion? Only ask because the extended settings make some things wacky with certain mods

[grim bridge]

strictly speaking yes it won't be required. Really just comes down to which workflow the mod author prefers

if they want custom scenes they'd use lethalexpansion and if they want to use a prefab they'd use lethallib

[obtuse raptor]

Does LethalExpansion not also use prefabs?

[lunar skiff]

lethalexpansion doesnt use custom scenes

i looked at it

seems to be replacing built in as well

[grim bridge]

for real?

huh

i thought that was the advantage of it

[lunar skiff]

i mean its an entire sdk

if you ask me thats a pretty big advantage

[grim bridge]

not an exclusive one though

we've got like 7 entire sdks already

not shade or nothin

Still probably gonna merge into lethallib anyway, but

[lunar skiff]

you realize theres kind of an issue with having everything in one api right

it just becomes kind of bloated

[grim bridge]

oh we've had discussions on that

doesn't matter to me that much a tools a tool ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lunar skiff]

and what was the resolution

[grim bridge]

lmao you say that as if there was one

[lunar skiff]

still its kinda

[grim bridge]

we have had discussions on it though

[lunar skiff]

if someone uses the library for one big thing theyll have 500 other little htings

[lunar skiff]

pretty sure this is why r2api has like 500 submodules

oh yeah its kind of just unorganized too

it sounds like itd be better to work on (to me atleast) if it was split up like r2api

[zenith nebula]

Well lethal lib already has custom dungeon support and I worked with Eva to iron things out with that which is why I'm using it for SCP

And I'll also be working on the custom dungeon here so it just makes sense to keep all the same workflow

Ultimately it's just a preference for which one people will pick up, though if the first major addition mod is built on one or the other it does incentivise using that one for future mods that add stuff to avoid compatibility issues

[obtuse raptor]

its just me out of the three moon threads here using lethal expansion right

[grim bridge]

there's yours, there's ooblterra, was there another?

[obtuse raptor]

my brain went to scp but i realised thats only dungeon stuff

[zenith nebula]

Yeah SCP for now is just dungeon, maybe when moon API is added to lethal lib it'll be expanded out

[obtuse raptor]

yeah

very curious too see what youve been cooking with all of that

[zenith nebula]

Targeting a weekend release right now for that

[obtuse raptor]

sick as

[zenith nebula]

Then it'll be on hold (unless there's major issues) till ooblterra release

[obtuse raptor]

I'd love to mess with some light editor tooling/visualisation stuff for custom moon scene stuff

[grim bridge]

timeline works out well on that since laz is throwing us more internal models this weekend (hopefully)

[obtuse raptor]

would be super easy to hook up visual stuff to see the path of the ship landing and a bunch of other stuff

[red spear]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1020532760206655508/1023231579134369792/hapee.gif

[grim bridge]

after a couple of days with my head in the sand I am pleased to announce I have first drafts for ||7|| new AIs

going to spend the next 2 days fully setting up the prefabs and iterating. then hopefully by sunday I'll have at least 1 preview to share

[spiral walrus]

Split assemblies fucking sucks no

Don’t even act like it’s good

[spiral walrus]

Damn I’m getting so outdone rn

[spiral walrus]

I’d personally like to promote lethallib and since sneer will be coming out on lethallib I’m sure that’ll drive a lot of attention it’s way

[grim bridge]

another point for unity over unreal: FSM is vastly fucking superior to behavior trees

transitions are just so much easier to wrap your head around

[lunar skiff]

???

[spiral walrus]

Tbf I did kinda preface why I was eating shit on getting stuff done lately

[lunar skiff]

It's good to me, what's wrong with it LOL

[spiral walrus]

Split assemblies sucks, any mod dev worth their salt will tell you as much

[lunar skiff]

K and how so
Ror2 one if the biggest modding scenes has r2api split

[zenith nebula]

yeah, cirno fumo probably helped cement it as the prime item adding mod, and with SCP + ooblterra being on it will prob make it prime dungeon/moon mod

[spiral walrus]

I hope you know split assemblies was the decision of like 2 people

[grim bridge]

if we're gonna have another argument #dev-general please yall I like to use this thread for reference

[obtuse raptor]

Mine aswell

[lunar skiff]

Why are you dodging the question tho I asked u how it's bad 😭

[lunar skiff]

Got it

[spiral walrus]

At best we get separate sub module updates which means updates for the api can come out a little faster but it fucking makes it so annoying to work on mods because you have to add alllll the modules to your mod and also 90% of people still depend on the core which means it loads all 30 sub modules regardless of if they’re being used

It clutters modpacks so bad 😭

I’m done now

[grim bridge]

tbh its not as if this thread isnt a total mess anyway

ideas are written here sometimes though

[spiral walrus]

Sneer should make it the premier enemy mod too though as for adding more tools to that side I cannot do too much

[grim bridge]

colored fog is working!

this opens the door for at least one custom weather condition that I should have more than enough time for, if not the two I have in mind

[sweet bough]

Is it gonna be like an Acid fog or something like that?

[glossy wind]

how does one instal this? i cant fine it

[fiery bobcat]

As the title of this thread states, this mod is Work In Progress.