#Skinwalkers

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trail pine
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Gonna add one more thing to this and leave but
Another thing is that with this mod, you'll actually know you're being recorded
With obs you don't know that at all

azure rampart
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That's also less private, since its checking your computer for software that records audio

grim lake
fresh atlas
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I'm going to make breakfast. benice be nice or else

grim lake
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my friends have not gotten any notifications about it

glad flicker
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Also, temp storage or not, storing recordings is very fuzzy

azure rampart
trail pine
glad flicker
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Hence why everything that does that has a warning and or asks for consent

grim lake
glad flicker
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Meh I could write it it’s not hard

glad flicker
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I was simply asking if it did exist because there are privacy law implications if it doesn’t exist

grim lake
robust spade
trail pine
glad flicker
grim lake
grim lake
glad flicker
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Yeah but the law doesn’t exactly care if it’s obvious to you with common sense

grim lake
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im pretty sure atleast

glad flicker
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This didn’t even start as complaining why the hell did people blow it out of proportion

robust spade
# glad flicker Functionality

Then rather than asking the mod author to put in more work, you could both request the feature + offer guidance on implementation. If it's open-source (I genuinely don't know if Skinwalkers is or not) you could even fork it

glad flicker
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I literally asked hey does the mod ask for consent

glad flicker
azure rampart
glad flicker
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I asked if it had that feature

grim lake
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that recording voices could be a problem

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you gave the reasons

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i gave you answers

glad flicker
azure rampart
grim lake
glad flicker
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Optin on the title screen if they didn’t optin then discard everything recorded for that person

grim lake
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it's a client side mod noop

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it doesn't record you it records everyone else, they would need to consent.

azure rampart
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Noop have you even used this mod

robust spade
azure rampart
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before requesting changes

glad flicker
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Yes

azure rampart
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Right...

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so how is a pop up

grim lake
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uh

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i don't really believe that

azure rampart
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for the person who willingly installed it

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going to solve anything

glad flicker
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I’m saying if you’re the person it’s being used against

grim lake
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ITS CLIENT SIDE NOOP

glad flicker
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Dude

robust spade
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The pop-up alone wouldn't accomplish what they're saying, they want a pop-up + the ability to not be recorded

glad flicker
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Yeah

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Basically

grim lake
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HOW WOULD IT SHOW THE POP UP ON ANOTHER PERSON

glad flicker
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Also don’t misgender me please thanks

cloud zinc
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Ability to not be recorded = not installing the mod

grim lake
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when you speak in lethal company

glad flicker
grim lake
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you give out your voice

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people hear it

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people can record it

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no matter if they have mods or not

robust spade
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My b, default brain assumes everyone is "he", fixed in the edit 🙃

grim lake
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theres no way to stop that

glad flicker
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Dude this is pointless lmao w/e

grim lake
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yes it is pointless noop

glad flicker
azure rampart
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🥱

azure rampart
robust spade
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Being a dick isn't really gonna help anyone here guys

azure rampart
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bro's playing dress up

grim lake
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alright lets not

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do that

glad flicker
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It’s your choice to leave these messages undeleted

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But you’re also going to deal with the consequences of doing that

azure rampart
glad flicker
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So

azure rampart
glad flicker
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You’re literally attacking me

azure rampart
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I'm so frightened

azure rampart
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nah thats crazy

glad flicker
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My face when opinions directed at another persons identity

grim lake
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uh

azure rampart
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Comparing that to violence is insane

grim lake
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guys this is a mod channel

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can we discuss mods

fresh atlas
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I will unlock this thread later

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Sorry @wispy wolf

peak monolith
grim lake
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also no worries

cloud zinc
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I mean the GAME itself would prob have to check if you have OBS open (which I mean technically it can do, and I guess it could tell if you're recording??) But if the game did that.. that'd be a little fucked up ino

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Imo*

fresh atlas
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rug is gonna come check the mod thread and be like +500 messages

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ya'll are too much sometimes, guh

cloud zinc
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Yea..

peak monolith
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Looks like I really missed the shit show

glad flicker
fathom sand
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He’s gonna try to respond to em all cause he just that swagger

grim lake
wispy wolf
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I doubt that would be consistent

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Yeah just disable one

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No ai

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Lol

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Ignore it it doesn't matter

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No

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Who's that?

marsh galleon
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Is the config for the mod somewhere here?

wispy wolf
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I forget but I think events

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No

azure rampart
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in your code

peak monolith
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sorry I'll go eat my dinner

wispy wolf
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Well that doesn't really work since it's the other players that have the mod, you uninstalling it doesn't mean your voice isn't potentially recorded. It's the same kind of thing as someone using recording or clipping software, you have to just trust that people won't use it.

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😎

peak monolith
wispy wolf
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@glad flicker a potential solution is it sending a chat message saying "I'm running the Skinwalkers mod which records audio"

glad flicker
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Yeah

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If you have plans to make it server side I’d suggest optin thing

wispy wolf
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I mean I don't really

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That's a lot of work

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I don't really want to have to make a dialog box

cloud zinc
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lmao

grim lake
fresh atlas
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👀 Just a reminder

grim lake
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actually not relatable i spend alot of time making the most time consuming but small things

wispy wolf
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Reminder of what?

cloud zinc
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Life 🧬

toxic jolt
wispy wolf
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You are missing the point

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It records other people's audio

toxic jolt
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probably

wispy wolf
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Not yours

toxic jolt
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oh do you mean like if only one person had it installed?

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idk just make the mod not work if not all players are running the mod, delete recorded audio after the game session ends

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seems way too complicated

fresh atlas
lyric lagoon
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i dont see how the mod would even take care of it

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a disclaimer sure but

cloud zinc
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Person 1: installed, recorded by p3, not p1
Person 2: not installed, recorded by p1 and p2
Person 3: installed, recorded by p1, not p3
Person 4: not installed, recorded by p1 and p3

lyric lagoon
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anything else is overkill

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  • the mod is out already, some people aint gonna bother updating
peak monolith
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anyone using a mod manager will autoupdate it though :)

lyric lagoon
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i still see people using big lobby v1.0.6 daily so

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eh

wispy wolf
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Yeah people can just download an older version to circumvent the warning if I add one...

toxic jolt
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ok so, make the mod not work if its on an older version

solution to the recording thing, the mod doesnt work on players that dont have the mod installed, because audio can be separated from different players thanks to the stuff console spits out when people talk

lyric lagoon
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sure its a concern, but its so convoluted, besides a disclaimer, idk

wispy wolf
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How TF would I do that retroactively

lyric lagoon
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it'll just give it away

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yeah

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there is already no easy way to know who has what in terms of mods

toxic jolt
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I dont do code stuff, but if its really a big deal youll figure it out, I personally think its stupid this is even a conversation

lyric lagoon
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  • the recordings are meant to be temporary like
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if you play the game with a mic, its not like you don't expect to land in a lobby where people are recording or something

toxic jolt
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how did this all even start

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did some snowflake come in and complain?

fresh atlas
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It was a suggestion that it would be nice to have a warning about the recording, I think

lyric lagoon
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the most that can realistically be done, is a disclaimer on the mod page

cloud zinc
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Someone asked
Got answered
Then semi suggested

fresh atlas
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Some people don't communicate well and now I'm in here so you have to deal with me

lyric lagoon
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something more intrusive would be asking in the main menu, but that sucks

toxic jolt
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disclaimer should be enough logically

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aside from just not letting the mod work only client side

lyric lagoon
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its clientside by nature lmao

toxic jolt
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well find a mod that is server side, borrow some code that makes it need server side, and use that to make it need server side or it just doesnt work

cloud zinc
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lmao

short kelp
toxic jolt
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xd

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I mean the answer is simple but I guess doing it is the problem

toxic jolt
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like I said, I dont even do this kinda stuff, just throwing things out there

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one of them will land eventually

short kelp
toxic jolt
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although just saying it wont work is not very helpful, you gotta try first

light shell
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I think that this discussion just really dumb but if something really needs to be done then just make it say in the chat that the mod is installed whenever someone joins, or if possible make it change the name of the server so it always has "[skinwalker]" in it or something like that...

toxic jolt
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anyways im gonna go, like, watch youtube and thank myself for not getting into modding this game

true coral
wispy wolf
short kelp
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hmm

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i couldn't get them to talk ig

wispy wolf
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Did you see "audio file loaded" and some file path in the console

peak monolith
light shell
wispy wolf
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It's surprisingly hard to do that when no other mod is doing what you're doing

peak monolith
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haha

fathom sand
lyric lagoon
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and all people do is raise complaints

light shell
short kelp
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but when it tried to play it just couldn't

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i'll try again

wispy wolf
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It's fairly rare

azure hollow
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is it brokey

stray silo
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Hello! Why is LC_API a dependency for the mod?

wispy wolf
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idk, I forgot

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I think I used it at one point but not anymore

wispy wolf
wispy wolf
stray silo
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Gotcha, would it be possible to drop it as a dependency in future releases?

wispy wolf
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why

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do you not like it

marsh galleon
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is this just due to no files being recorded or there is an issue?

short kelp
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oh it's working

stray silo
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Currently LC_API is causing custom sounds/music to sometimes be loaded as AssetBundles. This is probably fine, but could make debugging funky

short kelp
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yes

wispy wolf
stray silo
wispy wolf
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thx 😄

robust spade
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I saw LethalProgression is incompatible - was there any looking into this further to resolve the incompatibility, or are they still just borkd for now?

fresh atlas
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Stoneman is taking the week off so it won't be anytime soon unless Rug figures it out and fixes it from skinwalker's end

wispy wolf
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I don't plan on fixing it on skinwalkers end, at least not for now

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too much work for what little time I have atm

hazy peak
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Hi I saw some concerns about the audio files quickly filling up space just to confirm does the mod deletes the audio files after I close the game and in case not where can I go to delete them manually?

wispy wolf
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the mod deletes audio files automatically a few seconds after they are created

hazy peak
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alright thats great to know

robust spade
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Does skinwalkers distort the recordings? Sometimes I've heard exceedingly high pitched or just plain warped voices

wispy wolf
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it uses the monster's voice, so if the pitch is increased for the monster

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then yeah

robust spade
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How horrific lol, good to know

dire flare
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I wonder if this could be related as to why we were hearing voices outside constantly. Has anyone else figured out why you hear voices constantly outside?

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Oh didn't realize 1.0.7 had been released which fixed it sorry

quasi olive
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Are you looking to use the same suit of the selected player that they were wearing?

quasi olive
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Me and my friend were gonna create something like this. We had the idea was to make it so when the FlowerMan kills you it spawns in a new Skinwalker so it kinda acts like they didn't even die in the first place

wispy wolf
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That's the plan

dire flare
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Also I love the fact that all monsters have the ability to speak. I hope that when the Doppelganger creature comes out it wont stop other creatures from talking or its like a on/off option.

versed forge
dire flare
empty orchid
versed forge
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Oh I didn’t see it in the config, did I just miss the option lol?

dire flare
versed forge
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My team mates are too stupid and any time a dog sais something they respond

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We are dying to mimic dogs way too much rn

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Taking matters into my own hands

dire flare
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That sounds like a lot of fun, so much potential for funny clips

wispy wolf
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Send me ur clips!

daring parcel
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Is there a reason the GH was taken private? Was kind of interested in browsing the source code to learn from it. Decompiled assembly doesn't hit the same

wispy wolf
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someone stole and reuploaded the mod

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rubbed me the wrong way

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I might make it public once I'm done with my mimic mod

fresh atlas
daring parcel
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Any chance of sharing a zip of the repo in its current version? I'm not trying to steal anything pinkie swear

wispy wolf
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trivially more difficult is still more difficult 🫡

wispy wolf
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maybe once im done with my mimic mod

daring parcel
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What is the mimic mod? I have a feeling it's probably similar to what I was thinking of building lol

wispy wolf
fresh atlas
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Well I'm not going to argue with you about it but you have to know that C# is just a single click away from being source code again. Its very reversible, by design in many ways

wispy wolf
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ye

daring parcel
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking lol. Players who die outside the hearing range of other players are revived into enemies which look and sound like the players

wispy wolf
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ik

daring parcel
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I was gonna call it Phantom

wispy wolf
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mhmm

fresh atlas
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Oki doke, myself and 753 are site moderators so we can take down packages, just a reminder

wispy wolf
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ok cool

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I also don't like the idea of people yoinking my audio code and then making what I'm already making

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thats why after im done with what im making, idc if the code is public

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but I don't want to be copied at this stage, it just sucks to put a ton of work into something and then have someone else take it

daring parcel
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Gotcha

hollow oak
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I got this error, anyone know how to fix the problem

sacred leaf
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once again asking for a technical explanation of this mod

marsh galleon
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this a problem or also just ignorable?

lyric lagoon
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isn't that a log form the game itself

harsh dagger
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yes

lyric lagoon
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yeah so its useless anyways

lyric lagoon
sacred leaf
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i do not want it in short

lyric lagoon
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dive into the dissasembly

rigid pivot
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Something is occuring to where whenever I enter with the new

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version

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my whole screen is black

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and I can't move

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it also seems to corrupt the save

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making my quota 0/0

rigid pivot
wispy wolf
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theres a conflict

rigid pivot
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is there a possibility I can downgrade? I downgraded the progression mod

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or would that not be recommended

wispy wolf
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u can downgrade to 1.0.3 skinwalkers

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but u wont have a config

rigid pivot
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thank you for the solution

lyric mauve
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so uh thinking of trying this but saw someone got VAC banned, prob fine but is this uh safe to use?

astral flume
lyric mauve
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oh sorry i saw this and thought it was a VAC ban

quaint willow
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Bruh

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No lmao

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I was banned from rug’s multiplayer game

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2 years ago

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Also the ban was 650+ days ago… this game has existed for like 2 months

lyric mauve
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heh

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thanks guys

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appreciate it

rare wraith
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memory leak generator

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great mod

wispy wolf
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what version are you using?

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it discards clips when there are too many in like 1.0.6+

rare wraith
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the version from yesterday idk

wispy wolf
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check it in r2modman

rare wraith
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1.0.6

wispy wolf
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what was the memory usage in task manager? or why do you think there was a leak?

rare wraith
wispy wolf
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do you have any other mods installed?

rare wraith
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ofc

wispy wolf
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I mean you'd have to try just with skinwalkers to make sure its not another mod

quick geyser
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also btw rug, not a big thing but I saw on your webstie that the invite to the lcdiscord is invalid. Might wanna change it to the perma link at the top of #announcements whenever you can

wispy wolf
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good call, discord would only let me generate the stupid nitro invite

quick geyser
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XD

covert latch
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yeah I'm using bigger lobby is that what the 404 error is?

wispy wolf
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ignore the 404 error

quick geyser
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I feel like you gotta just catch that error so it doesn't spit into logs and this gets flooded with people asking the same thing 100 times

covert latch
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oh ok was worried the 404 meant it wasn't playing the files

wispy wolf
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i didnt realize people would scour the logs

quick geyser
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yea but make it like an info or warning so people don't see red text and go "oh no"

wispy wolf
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maybe later

night kettle
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how does this mod work tho

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like i mean does it just take a random voiceline from ur voice

fathom sand
night kettle
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so what happens if i just spam v

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lol

fathom sand
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it deletes ones that are too short

night kettle
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whats like

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that average

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the

fathom sand
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i dont remember

night kettle
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alr

fathom sand
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it needs to be longer than .8 seconds or so

night kettle
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is there a way to make the mimic more louder tho

wispy wolf
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no

night kettle
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k

wispy wolf
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its based on the enemy's voice

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so it will depend on the enemy

night kettle
full flare
versed cargo
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Is there a way to hear your own voice coming from monsters when you're spectating? would be funny to hear what my friends hear

copper socket
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Do the voice clips get stored locally? just don't want file bloat

wispy wolf
copper socket
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Ah good to know

zenith jay
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This mod is pretty cool, was looking at the code prior to it being privated and was interested in making a concept for a dedicated "skinwalker" monster that uses your friends voices

fervent berry
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which enemies does this mod apply to? all or just bracken

wispy wolf
wispy wolf
fervent berry
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ah okay

zenith jay
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That's sick, me and my buddy had a flowchart of ideas to make it really scary

wispy wolf
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would love to see it if you dont mind

fervent berry
# wispy wolf all, use the config

do you know how to edit mod configs on thunderstore? I know that isnt specifically in regards to ur mod but im kinda new to this, sorry

wispy wolf
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edit config in the launcher

fervent berry
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ohh i see

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thanks

zenith jay
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2. Make it look identical to another player (items/name etc)
    -Implement MoreCompany cosmetics
    -Implement held items
3. Apply Spore Lizard AI for general roaming/lure mode
    -Record/play target players voice lines for other players in the complex
4. Modify AI to make it attack/chase players if they get close to it
    -Skinwalker would chase at Brackin sprint speed
    -Skinwalker would silently kill, consume the body, and then mimic the appearance of victim
    -Skinwalker would take the last voice clip of the player and use it as a "scream" when attacking the next player to scare them and to provide more believability while luring them
5. Repeat steps 2-4```
ionic nimbus
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[Error :RugbugRedfern.SkinwalkerMod] Failed to load WAV file: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
its this bad?

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if so how do i fix it

pallid shuttle
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yo the link to the mod wont let me go to it

wispy wolf
pallid shuttle
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ight

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oh wait

pallid shuttle
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didnt see that thin at 1st also thx

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ok its thunderstorm thats bugging

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not ur link

remote cape
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@wispy wolf Ever changed the spawn solution for the network behavior?

wispy wolf
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no

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im not updating it rn

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kinda worried about breaking something

remote cape
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💀

azure seal
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anyone looking to play skinwalkers mod?

final hill
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Is it broken right now?

wispy wolf
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no

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wat?

final hill
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Hmmm is it incompatible with certain mods?

wispy wolf
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only lethal progression

remote cape
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This always happens

final hill
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Ah perfect

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Thank you!

remote cape
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Take LP off for now

final hill
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Dont gotta tell me twice

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Love this mod more than Lethal Progression

wispy wolf
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bruh dont be mean thats the creator

final hill
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:( I didnt mean it like that

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I cant wait to troll my friends with this mod

remote cape
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I feel terrible

wispy wolf
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tbf its mostly my fault

quick geyser
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what conflict did you make rug?

wispy wolf
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we both used the same shortcut to use network variables

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its technically not allowed by unity so idk why it works at all

quick geyser
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lmao

wispy wolf
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but because the prefab hash id is 0 since we're generating it at runtime, there cant be two prefabs with id 0

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so one mod bites it

quick geyser
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so you need to impliment and asset bundle with said prefab instead?

wispy wolf
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yes

quick geyser
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and there's like -8 documentation on that so it's annoying af

atomic dagger
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is there a config that lets you choose what monsters mimic your voice

wispy wolf
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yes

atomic dagger
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which file is it

wispy wolf
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use r2modman for gods sake plz

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or you can go into the config folder

atomic dagger
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ty

wispy wolf
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lil goober

quick geyser
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definitely a goober

remote cape
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don't worry rug

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I'll properly do it

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hopefully today, or maybe after Wednesday

wispy wolf
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ok

sage coyote
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Love what youre cooking rug

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Make a kofi

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I’d like to buy you a coffee

wispy wolf
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my patreon is linked on the mod page if u want

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ig I could setup a ko-fi 🤔

quaint willow
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rug how much did 2018 pay you to use LC API

sage coyote
quaint willow
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its so bad

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and ruins compatibility for so many mods

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it was borderline vulnerable at one point

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I was using this mod until I checked in one day and saw that new updates needed LC API

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never using it again ig

wispy wolf
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u can just turn it off i dont think it even uses any of it

quaint willow
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why do you have it marked as a dependency then

wispy wolf
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it used to use it

quaint willow
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you should like remove it because it causes actual issues to have in your mods folder with a lot of other mods

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if its not needed dont make people think they need to download it

wispy wolf
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what issues

quaint willow
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a lot of mods are incompatible

sage coyote
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This is the first I’m hearing of it

wispy wolf
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are they tho...? like which

quaint willow
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it might be better now idk but before it would break mods that have their own asset bundles and all sorts of other dumb shit

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its poorly made

wispy wolf
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yeah that was patched

quaint willow
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its also like

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very useless lmao

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i dont understand why it was even made

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it was unpinned for a reason

thorny mica
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hi guys! where is the config file located for this mod, i dont see it in the zip
also, does this store audio clips of voices on my pc? where would that go

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thanks!

wispy wolf
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if you use r2modman, its in the "edit config" section

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if u use the zip, then its in the bepenix config folder

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u have to launch once to see it

thorny mica
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thats why, havent launched yet. awesome thank u!!

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oh sweet cus i saw people mentioning that and i was rdy to delete it daily haha

wispy wolf
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it does, it deletes them after a few seconds tho

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idk why alu said that

trim jewel
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Just curious before I do the mod with friends, but it uses only voices RECORDED from the party right? It doesn't use AI to mimic voices?

wispy wolf
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no AI involved

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that shit is expensive

trim jewel
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TRUE

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thank you !

quaint willow
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rug can you remove the steam game ban its been 2 years 💀 you can keep me banned on your own servers just remove the steam ban

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i did a little silly 2 years ago on his multiplayer game

sacred leaf
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?

inner compass
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hey is it ok if i edit the source code to make it so everyone hears the same audio (or atleast attempt to do that)

wispy wolf
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no

inner compass
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ok

quaint willow
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its open source why wouldn't that be allowed

glad flicker
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wait yeah what

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lmao

inner compass
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it steals reference

glad flicker
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open source mod that you cant edit?

quaint willow
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fire!

inner compass
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i didn't realize it was open source mb

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couldn't find it earlier

wispy wolf
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its not open source

inner compass
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hu

glad flicker
#

oh now that just sucks lol

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why

quick geyser
#

@wispy wolf doesn't want people to reupload their mod

inner compass
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fair enough

wispy wolf
#

already happened once

quaint willow
#

he said nothing about reuploading

inner compass
#

guys tyrust this is my very orgiinal mod called "the mimic mod"!!!!!!

wispy wolf
quick geyser
#

if you change it on your own version it's probably fine but if you start redistributing, that's a no no

inner compass
#

nah i was probably just gonna give it to my friends n stuff

glad flicker
#

well without proper license you get fouled for editing the code

inner compass
#

cause this on it's own is already really fun

glad flicker
#

also you cant get your hands on the code

quick geyser
inner compass
#

just do some very simple code where if it's a crappy reupload it uhhh self destructs itself, that's really easy to code right 100%

glad flicker
#

hell nah

quick geyser
#

ong but still

glad flicker
#

Just making the repo public with the proper license should suffice no

quick geyser
#

too much of a hassle for rug

#

but just having things private leads to it not being stolen

inner compass
#

is there any other updates planned for this with maybe your own audio playing back or nah

quick geyser
#

also he said he'd make a public repo once the mod is fully complete

quick geyser
inner compass
toxic jolt
#

bro imagine "It steals" in lethal company

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I would love that

inner compass
quick geyser
#

I'm just telling you what his plans are for as far as I know

toxic jolt
#

"It steals" is what I think of when I hear jester sprinting out of sight

quick geyser
#

maybe he'll make it so that all other monsters in the config are by default false so it's only just for the custom enemy but you can turn it on for others too

#

that's actually a good idea now that I think about it

inner compass
#

is he planning to make it so any custom entities have some sort of support

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or you could atleast type something for them in the config

#

i don't know how hard coding that is so i dunno if that's even possible

quick geyser
#

I have no clue on that front

inner compass
#

fair

oblique tangle
inner compass
#

ye i hope he adds it in so everyone hears the same line

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but that would mean it'd have to record your own thing as well

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which means you could be walking down a dark hall alone, and call out for your friends, only to hear it echo right back out from the darkness

sinful stone
#

Still, I think this is good on paper but in practice, it is a bad idea

fluid charm
#

mEOW

oblique tangle
wispy wolf
#

main difference is we are gonna have a mob kill the player first

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before taking their body

glad flicker
#

Y’all really gotta fix the current caching soonish

wispy wolf
#

what issue is there

glad flicker
#

100 gb sound file goes crazy

wispy wolf
#

who has a 100gb sound file?

glad flicker
#

From what I understand it creates a cache and only deletes it at the end of your play session no

#

Unless it was changed recently cause I don’t keep up completely (call me stupid if it is)

zenith jay
glad flicker
#

I remember a lot of people complaining about the file getting too big and then eating all the memory on their computer

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Which is like valid if it isn’t cleared at the end of every moon

wispy wolf
#

it deletes files immediately after loading them

glad flicker
#

Hm?

wispy wolf
#

if you actually experience an issue of someone having 100gb of audio plz tell me

#

but dont just throw stuff out like that

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cuz people take it out of context

glad flicker
#

Fair

#

100gb is hyperbole but there were some large ass files

wispy wolf
#

the files are about 300kb each, its not even possible for them to get that large

#

or are you referring to the folder

quick geyser
#

people really be clowning

glad flicker
#

The folder itself

inner compass
wispy wolf
#

separate mod probably

inner compass
#

fair enough

#

i think it's funny hearing a coil-head moving around while talking, t hinking it's someone, then instantaneous coil-death

wispy wolf
#

which means I have to make a separate voice API mod to serve both of them

inner compass
#

(it was a major trickster)

quick geyser
#

you could instead just keep the config for other creatures but set them to false by default

astral flume
#

I've seen people talk about it generating many GB of files as well

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haven't used it myself so I can't relate

glad flicker
#

Yeah this isn’t some weird one off thing

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Heard it a lot

inner compass
#

hsan't happened for me yet

wispy wolf
#

where do yall hear this stuff

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would be nice to know so I can look at feedback

inner compass
#

most ive seen is like 1500 kilobytes or something, but that's cause it was someone explaining a funny thing that happened to them being saved as an audio

glad flicker
#

I guess it depends on how long you play at a time

sinful stone
#

How would the ogg format compare file size wise to wavs

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Even then, if file size really is that big of an issue, then would implementing a timed flush of the sounds after a certain size limit be a worthy look into? I mean yeah you would lose voice recordings from earlier in the session but it'll refresh itself with newer ones

wispy wolf
#

it was causing an error

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the flush

sinful stone
#

Ahh

wispy wolf
#

im gonna re-implement it, but I have to hook the leave game method somehow

sinful stone
#

It would flush upon exiting the game?

wispy wolf
#

its supposed to

sinful stone
#

I see, I was talking about a more active flush that refreshes mmmm let's say every orbit IF the size limit had been flagged

wispy wolf
#

well its supposed to delete the files automatically already

#

this lil freak

quick geyser
#

spoopy boi

sinful stone
sinful stone
wispy wolf
#

well ig not impossible

#

just hard

#

im not doing it

sinful stone
#

Ahhh okay

lyric lagoon
#

transcoding isn't free, WAV sure uses more memory but its the tradeoff

#

I think deleting the files after a moon would make the most sense

lyric lagoon
#

perhaps people alt f4

wispy wolf
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

lyric lagoon
#

i never once in my life pressed a quit button in any game 🦅

wispy wolf
#

also, does anyone know why some people havent been updated?

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is it cuz 1.0.3 is in a modpack or something

sinful stone
#

Possibly or they just don't update often/don't see a reason too

lyric lagoon
#

are the downloads still going up ?

wispy wolf
#

yeah like 10k an hour

quick geyser
#

maybe make it delete all sound files when the mod is initially loaded too so anything that is left over doesn't stack

wispy wolf
#

thats what it did

#

it caused an error tho

#

and crashed

#

so...

#

idk

quick geyser
#

ohhh

glad flicker
# wispy wolf

It shows how many downloads each version got not how many people have a specific version downloaded

lyric lagoon
#

keep them around for the next match benice

glad flicker
#

Iirc

wispy wolf
glad flicker
#

Weird at one point it worked like that

#

Hmph

quick geyser
wispy wolf
#

yeah 1.0.0 was at 4500

quick geyser
#

do you have a screenie?

sacred leaf
wispy wolf
#

trust

wispy wolf
sacred leaf
#

maybe i'm thinking of something else

glad flicker
#

What does it use from lcapi exactly

wispy wolf
#

nothing

glad flicker
#

Why depend on it then

wispy wolf
#

cuz it used to

glad flicker
#

Are you going to stop depending on it orrr

wispy wolf
#

maybe

glad flicker
#

I’d advocate for that because I really like avoiding downloading lcapi

quick geyser
#

older manifests will still have the dependency no? so newer ones don't need to have it in their list

#

I would assume r2 uses the uploaded manifest for the specific version to get dependencies since you upload the whole thing as a zip

inner compass
sinful stone
inner compass
#

understandable

#

maybe there could be some extra config settings for size limits and stuff

sacred leaf
#

eyeless dog saying "its lit fam"

gloomy hawk
#

Do yall know anything about the mod causing heavy stuttering for some people? It works fine for me and a couple others, but one friend began stuttering to oblivion when he installed the mod

floral cloak
#

this thread is suffering from a serious lack of funny clips i can steal

obsidian phoenix
wispy wolf
#

lol its the #1 search term on youtube

#

verified with private browser + VPN

#

cuz I didnt really believe it

runic gyro
#

Lethal company vods are trending hella

sacred leaf
kindred snow
#

hi
any known mod conflicts for this mod? (e.g yippee mod for hoarder bug)

shrewd fable
#

Skinwalker mod is our favorite mod now dude, it has led to so many funny events in our game. I died and then instantly a monster nearby used my voice and it was so funny, we love the mod 😤

quick geyser
#

rug is making the skinwalkers be standalone creatures. Though he has said he plans to keep a version for other creatures to in either another mod or through configs

quick sand
#

Im curious, does the skinwalkers repeat words players have said? Or do they have a set of fixed words they say in the voice of the players?

wispy wolf
#

repeats words of players

kindred snow
#

ok thx KEK

sacred leaf
#

the config seems to not work, and sometimes the voices are seemingly randomly pitched?

wispy wolf
#

pitch is based on the creatures voice

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so high pitched voices get high pitched voice lines

#

what doesnt work about the config tho

sacred leaf
#

even when set to false, certain creatures still mimic voices

wispy wolf
#

which ones

sacred leaf
sacred leaf
# wispy wolf which ones

mostly noticed it with forest giants and baboon hawks because i stay in the ship all the time, also saw bunker spider do it (only ones i have it true on are snare flea, bracken, coilhead, eyeless dog and ghost girl)

wispy wolf
#

hmm

#

well as for outside i think thats a different bug

cedar terrace
#

If files are big after playing for long time you should prob delete files after each time you goto orbit

wispy wolf
#

and for bunker spider was there another monster near?

sacred leaf
#

there was a slime and a i think thumper maybe? i know it wasn't anything i have true set on

wispy wolf
#

wack

sacred leaf
#

also, where are the audio files cached? incase i have the bug where they don't get removed, i want to know where to clean them out

wispy wolf
#

local game folder

#

Dissonance_Diagnostics

granite sluice
#

Idk if there is a place to report bugs, but this does not work with the Freddy_bracken mod or any mod that messes with the braken's sprites, you will get stuck on the loading screen forever

wispy wolf
#

wack

granite sluice
#

oh also for the creator of this mod, would you like help with making the mod do a runtime AI clone of the player's voices and then use that to make the creature be able to speak any lines and like actually argue and try to lure ppl in? cus I could help you with that or just send me a link to the github as a collaborator and ill shoot you a pull request in a few weeks

wispy wolf
#

no sir I would not but thanks for the offer

granite sluice
#

Fair fair, just thought it would be cool if it could actually try to decive the players good mod!

wispy wolf
#

thx!

#

hmmm 🤔

tidal willow
#

omygod

sinful stone
gloomy hawk
cloud zinc
#

||sorry that was cringe||

granite sluice
wispy wolf
#

^^

gloomy hawk
#

Maybe tomorrow, it was my friend that had the issue and hes already gone to sleep.

#

Just trying to think of what could be doing it

cloud zinc
#

Idk probably the file type not being right

granite sluice
cloud zinc
#

🧌

gloomy hawk
#

I kinda doubt its other mods, our setups are all the exact same and its fine for 4/5 of us

#

But yeah I'll probably just wait for tmw and get the console trace from him

graceful perch
#

My friends and I just played with this for a while today. We came up with a safeword to identify each other and something called out our safeword in my friend's voice who I knew was at the ship, so that was top 5 scariest moments of my life

wispy wolf
#

lol

#

no word is safe if they can steal any of them

graceful perch
#

I'd love to have the ability to have everyone hear the same thing though, my other friend was really confused as to why I was freaking out so much in that moment

wispy wolf
#

good >:)

graceful perch
#

Ah, it's not a bug, it's a feature

#

A horrifying feature

tidal willow
#

Rug if you're still planning on creating a new mod page for the Skinwalker update I think it would be funny if you.. changed the current mod name to Schizophrenia or something

wispy wolf
#

mmm

hushed spear
#

SchizoCompany

sinful stone
#

Mirror man

clever night
#

Is it possible to configure the config to make the voices sound the same for everyone, not different for each?

cedar terrace
#

not yet its only client sided rn no netcode its in the works though

tidal willow
#

Also your mod is getting quite the attention in twitter rn lol

wispy wolf
#

all I saw was the one 4M view post

#

ok this one is funny lol

tidal willow
#

Oh yeah I was talking abt the 4m post lol

wispy wolf
#

crazy stuff

remote cape
#

people making fun of you on twitter thinking you use ai

#

It's clear they haven't even seen or played it

ornate sapphire
#

Get that LC_API out of here bruh 😭

remote cape
#

Best to actually remove LC_API if you're not using it

#

Quite the amount of issues with it

ornate sapphire
#

why do some devs add it add dependency when its not really needed :/ it just causes more issues

glad flicker
#

Mhm

potent basin
#

Hi, I have a question about the mod. If I have push to talk enabled will the mod only record audio bits from when the push to talk button was activated? Thanks!

fresh leaf
# wispy wolf

Seeing this alone gets me so excited, I can't wait till the monster comes out.

grim lake
#

they pick up and move things just like a player usually does

fresh leaf
#

Yeah actually a great idea, IDK how feasble it is but you could re-write it that their home point is near the doors so it makes sense even more so and will trick more people.

#

IDK how much it would change balance though since they would sometimes be gathering for you but it's a horrific new risk so I think it balances out getting a few items free rarely.

grim lake
#

hmm

#

yeah that could work

#

or it could take scrap away from the door and lure players away from the exit

toxic jolt
#

sorry im backreading LOL

old thunder
#

Is there anyway to adjust the chance for it to be a skin walker - I want to have brackens or something like that be a skinwalker but not every time. Better yet, having a separate enemy (you are probably working on something like that). Anyways, thanks.

quick sand
#

hey just popped in cause i was playing with a group of friends and one of them said that they kept getting an error that kept saying "http://404 not found"

#

i just made a modpack for the first time and followed the steps, and it worked for everybody but him

quick sand
sage coyote
#

It’s random. Mod just records audio. Saves it locally. Randomly plays it. Deletes the files after game close (and periodically too)

tame marten
#

Too good my GAWD

spring raven
#

Any idea why one of my friends hears phrase said from previous planets and is the only one who can hear them speaking even though I set up the files for all of us which means we have everything installed matching perfectly? also is it supposed to be only dead people talking or it just repeat phrases that were said?

quick sand
#

it can be living people. My friend called me a dumbass and few minutes later a bracken said his own lines

wispy wolf
#

Cooncidence

azure rampart
#

@wispy wolf I believe the game has stolen your idea

wispy wolf
#

Recent update? Or what

azure rampart
#

Yup

#

game just updated

wispy wolf
#

Did zeekerss post?

quick geyser
#

v45 in the assemblies looking through it rn

azure rampart
#

You can also go back to version 40, which is awesome of him to do.

wispy wolf
#

Ok well rip

quick geyser
#

@wispy wolf quickly looking through the assemblies it doesn't look like a vocal skinwalker type enemy but just some sort of enemy mask of sorts

wispy wolf
#

How does it work

quick geyser
#

so skinwalkers should be good for now

quick geyser
wispy wolf
#

K

azure rampart
#

That’s good

quick geyser
#

Looks like it steals the players body after killing them and becomes them I think. It's moreover just a quick glance but it's somewhere along those lines. I'm going to test it in-game right now to see for myself. though browsing through the code there is no voice mimicry in sight

azure rampart
#

I’m glad he didn’t just implement what this mod is doing

#

That would suck

wispy wolf
#

Well it's always gonna be faster for the developer to add something than a modder 😔

quick geyser
#

real

naive kayak
#

update when

quick geyser
naive kayak
#

no update for this i dont think it works for me anymore

quick geyser
#

Be patient and give rug time. if you want to still play on modded with out issues with friends
go to the prior version of the game by right clicking > properties > betas > previous in your steam library

wispy wolf
#

Any errors?

quick geyser
#

So from a bit further digging looks like it grabs a player and kills it and then takes over it's corpse. It works like the normal player and even will be teleported back to the ship like a player. There's something here about a mask or other that I still have to figure out but it seems like a one-for-one of the possesion thing you were wanting to do

wispy wolf
#

rip

#

Well I can give it the players voice at least

sinful stone
#

I first I thought this would be a bad addition that would hurt the idea of the skinwalker enemy mod but actually wouldn't this be a good opportunity to use that ai and build upon it?

quick geyser
#

adding support for the new moster would be a must of course. I wonder if you can make it only id the recordings for the possesd player and send those back. Wouldn't really make sense for a jeff lookalike to be speaking in bobs voice

wispy wolf
#

Yeah

quick geyser
#

maybe should look into actually networking so that all players hear the same clips for the mod then. I honestly think hearing yourself is way more funny too since you would go back and forth with your seperated friends trying to get them back to you while arguing with your past selves voice

#

just a thought

sinful stone
#

That or you can keep going with the original idea but either keep the skinwalker enemy in the facility or transition it to always be that terrifying thing with no body doubling but still uses your voice and hangs in the shadows

quick sand
#

since ur testing, have you seen what they've done to make giants easier to avoid while u were at it?

#

still updating on my end

quick sand
marsh galleon
quick sand
#

really?

wispy wolf
#

If you don't send the actual error I can't help.

marsh galleon
quick sand
#

for now all he told me was he was missing a wav file and then that http 404 thing

marsh galleon
#

yeah its the one i tagged probably

wispy wolf
#

Ignore it

marsh galleon
#

shouldnt cause issues

quick sand
#

thanks for the clear up

#

also noticed yall's talks about making a separate enemy for the skinwalker, hope to see it soon 🙂

wispy wolf
#

Well the game just updated

#

And added that

#

So not anymore

quick sand
#

oh 😦

#

not anymore cause your gonna use the mask instead? or not anymore cause they added the mask

quick geyser
#

at least the voice mimicry is still a w feature that rug has up on it

quick geyser
#

still trying to figure it out, what does the mask do

quick sand
#

still remember following after my friends voice thinking it was him only for it to be a bracken xd

sinful stone
# wispy wolf So not anymore

You can still make the enemy, just ditch the fake player idea and keep it as a lure enemy that attacks like the flea or something similar. Would hate to not see that through after the work put in

wispy wolf
#

eh it would be another 20 hours of work to do that

#

I've already spent like 20 hours

#

I'm kinda done

#

If he added it then thats that

quick sand
#

btw, friend that has the 404 error asking if he should just remove LC_api

wispy wolf
#

just tell him to ignore it

sinful stone
#

Both could co-exist with that idea but damn man, sad to see

quick sand
#

oh shit wrong place

grim lake
#

does this mod still work in the new update?

wispy wolf
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

quick sand
#

lmao

sinful stone
#

Bruh the update just came out, calm

quick sand
#

man's the flash

#

so other than it being a fake error, it doesnt like stop him from hearing the voices right?

grim lake
#

does the mod still work tho

wispy wolf
#

oml

grim lake
#

its a genuine question, does anyone know or do i gotta find out myself

wispy wolf
#

Go find out

grim lake
#

ok

wispy wolf
#

It's good intel

quick sand
#

lol

grizzled pelican
#

bro cannot use his scroll wheel to look up

quick sand
#

gonna head to bed, goodluck with the mod and thansk for the help regarding the fake error :v

tidal willow
wispy wolf
#

||new item?||

night kettle
#

how do i make a mob mimic a voiceline every one sec

#

(for goofy)

fathom sand
night kettle
#

but like

wispy wolf
night kettle
#

alr

wispy wolf
#

its insane tho

fathom sand
lofty zenith
#

anyone know if there are plans to make the skinwalker mod server sided? or is that even possible?

wispy wolf
#

im curious what u think server sided means

#

and then I can tell you if its possible or not

lofty zenith
wispy wolf
#

possible? yes. happening? no

#

its better if they cant hear the same stuff

#

more creepy

lofty zenith
#

fair enough

peak monolith
#

so rug did you hear about the new enemies

wispy wolf
#

yes

#

yo anyone want to test the new skinwalker mod version

sinful stone
#

Test how so

wispy wolf
#

like play a game

sinful stone
#

Suree

#

Lmk the details

wispy wolf
#

@sinful stone join call

marsh galleon
#

so its potentially already functional?

#

mod still works i think

wispy wolf
#

1.0.8

  • Updated for Lethal Company v45
  • Actually fixed the bug where audio would randomly play outside (for alive players)
  • Removed the 404 error
  • Removed the LC_API dependency
grim lake
# wispy wolf more creepy

not really my friends and i are able to tell whether its a skinwalker or not very easily by the fact its saying something completely different at a completely different time

#

you could make it align without it being server-sided i bet

wispy wolf
#

thats why its most effective when ur split up

grim lake
#

like uh would it be possible for it to be client-sided but like theres some kind of algorithm or set way to choose which sound will play

#

like if it chose the 13th newest recording for example

#

and it refreshes the count everytime a lobby restarts

#

that way it would be aligned

marsh galleon
#

will config stay the same?

#

or the new monster was added and it needs an upd

versed cargo
#

thx for your work on the mod, its a lot of fun

grim lake
#

itd be nice if the new monster was added to the config

#

it would be awesome if it could talk

#

(the tragedy mask)

#

unless its already done

grim lake
cloud zinc
#

Does this mod work on v45?

tulip bobcat
cloud zinc
#

Sick

blazing oak
#

i was thinking if i could add that monster name and disable him

grim lake
blazing oak
#

yes

grim lake
#

like normal skinwalker stuff without the mod or

#

does it have basic voicelines

blazing oak
#

i mean with the skinwalker

grim lake
#

oh

#

nice

blazing oak
#

oh and it got updated, i didnt notice

#

IT doesnt show as updated on thunderstore

slow wharf
#

Id still love a dedicated monster to control your friends and their voices, but eh

#

i guess the masks are cool for now

blazing oak
#

Can I somehow disable the mask talking without it being in the config?

#

@wispy wolf

wispy wolf
#

does the mask talk?

#

I havent seen it in game

blazing oak
#

oh

#

Do you not want spoilers?

#

Well it does talk

slow wharf
#

Like because of the skinwalker mod, or just basegame

blazing oak
#

The skinwalker mod

blazing oak
slow wharf
#

Ah gotchu

wispy wolf
#

do u want to disable it talking?

blazing oak
#

I cant just add the name to the config and set it to false right?

#

yes

wispy wolf
#

no

#

ok im adding that to the config

blazing oak
#

Thanks 🙂

#

If you gonna know how the monster works youll see why 😄

#

If it would only talk in one persons voice that would be great,

wispy wolf
blazing oak
#

I honestly have no idea

wispy wolf
#

did u scan it?

blazing oak
#

let me check

wispy wolf
#

nvm name is "Masked"

blazing oak
#

ok

wispy wolf
#

found in asset rip

grim lake
#

awesome

blazing oak
#

@wispy wolf There is one more monster

#

havent seen him yet

wispy wolf
#

yeah

blazing oak
#

you could add him aswell

wispy wolf
#

good call

oblique tangle
#

New enemy cancelled? 😕

rugged jungle
#

F

oblique tangle
#

I was looking forward to it tbh, it looked really good

foggy rune
#

Me too, I’ve been following 😔

hushed musk
#

this mod works for 45?

wispy wolf
#

put on hold, at least

vale fjord
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Hey, I don’t want to be a bother, but I’m just curious. Are the configs user specific for this mod? Or does just the host assign what can or can’t speak?

wispy wolf
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Host

vale fjord
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W

sinful stone
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I do not appreciate Jim Carrey repeating my friends laugh while constantly trying to maliciously touch me

thin current
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having a bit of a problem, the mod isn't loading and throwing an error saying "targtting bepinex 5.4.2200"; I have installed through Thunderstore, where the BepInEx plugin is currently 5.4.2100; have installed 5.4.2200 manually (for my own purposes), but it seems the thunderstore one is overriding the one I manually installed? and thunderstore won't let me remove their version of Bep because it's a dependancy for every other mod installed... does anyone have any workarounds or fixes outside of manual installing outside of thunderstore?

robust spade
# wispy wolf more creepy

Originally I thought the same, until a buddy and I happened to hear the exact same voice line which made it much creepier. We had both heard a third friend mumbling, then said "Hey bud is that you?" and heard him laughing. We both ended up dead and learned that the third friend never left the ship that whole game kekw

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It'd also be neat to be able to hear ourselves (if the audio was synced for all), that way when spectating we know what's freaking out the living players

robust spade
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Though it is a shit ton of work, so definitely not a "light" request.

inner compass
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i think rug might be on it already(?)

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just scrolled up nvm

fathom sand
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I don’t think it being synced is worth the time compared to the features from working on other stuff on the mod tbh

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But ofc it being synced would definitely make it harder to just dismiss the voice

jolly hull
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I've written about a fix for Lethal Progression compatibility here, so I thought it would be good to reference it here as well: #1182384185571291266 message

robust spade
fathom sand
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Hmm he’s probably gonna focus on college now

wispy wolf
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But I'll still patch stuff

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And maybe add some special things to the mask

sinful stone
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The nutcracker telling me there's a flea before sending lead through my body is also unintentionally hilarious

wispy wolf
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lol

prisma falcon
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can i ask how you got the players audio file from the game code or are you recording it separately

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because this was something i had in mind as well

tidal willow
inner compass
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so is the custom creature being cut or no?

ocean fox
# gloomy hawk Do yall know anything about the mod causing heavy stuttering for some people? It...

Hey @wispy wolf I had filed an issue on the github before about this same thing. I did some extra testing as you asked, but I couldnt find any common threads between the people who get the stutters and those who dont.

People who get the stutter had nvidia rtx 3060-4060, but so did people who didnt get the stutter. Plus i doubt it has to do with the graphics card. We all have like 16gb+ RAM and at least intel i7 9th gen+

I was able to at least identify exactly what pops up on the console when the stutter happens and took a screen using the newest version. My friends with the stutters also had this pop up when it stuttered. Note that we are using LateCompany and MoreCompany and thats it... The stutter happened with 3 people, and all the way up to 10 people as well, so group size didnt make a difference. I also noticed a lot of log messages saying the folder was getting to big or something, and in parenthesis how many files there were before it reset them? It varied between 30-100 max i think. Also tried reducing the amount of enemies who produce the sounds (granted only turned 3 off) and the frequency to 0.5 in the cfg, had the same amount of stutters...

@gloomy hawk whenever u get to play again would you mind also checking your console so we can identify whats going on? Also, what mods do u have and what was your group size?

wispy wolf
# ocean fox Hey <@356946356478148619> I had filed an issue on the github before about this s...

It doesn't make a ton of sense that it stutters when loading the audio files since it should be doing it asynchronously. However when it's loading a ton of files, maybe it results in a stutter? The problem is I've personally never had any issue with this, and I don't know why it only affects some players. In a lobby with 10 players, you should be generating and loading pretty much the exact same amount of audio files, which would mean you would all stutter (which is why only affecting 3 is confusing). Changing the config won't change the stutter most likely, because the config doesn't dictate the audio recording process, just the playback.

Does it stutter when you see "Got audio file path" or "Loaded clip from path"?

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thanks for helping figure this out btw 😄

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actually now that I think about it, maybe its the file deletion process that is causing the lag, not the loading

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but still why would it only affect some players 🤔

wispy wolf
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could be a common factor

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I only have SSDs in my computer so I wouldn't experience an issue

ocean fox
# wispy wolf thanks for helping figure this out btw 😄

ofc! my group loves this mod so itd be great if everyone is able to use it kihara509

the ssd and hdd factor could be good to look into! i have had problems with games stuttering when installed on hdd before, but that was a different pc and i have very intensive games play without issues on my current pc, but i will look into it and ask my friends about their specs too! thanks for ur attention (; hopefully pzk rubie replies later with some more info that could help out

prisma falcon
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mine is on a hard drive

grim lake
tepid oak
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stuttering aswell, no one else in the lobby seems to have the same issue

night kettle
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I love my friends running to a dog thats mimicing my voice yaya

rigid acorn
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one of my friends lag a lot with this mod on 😢

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and he have an ssd

lavish kiln
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mod working for anyone?

dire flare
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yes works normally for us

gloomy hawk
lime urchin
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so there is a issue with it

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can find out wat

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but when someone joins with the mod on

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it just loads a black screen and doesnt enter the lobby

wispy wolf
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Check console for errors

dire flare
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Honestly having played the new update for 5 hours the mask creature is pretty lame as an enemy. It never gives the impression of it being another crewmate as its clear as day that its the monster

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I hope you continue developing your mod since this mask guy is a really lame version of your great idea

wispy wolf
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Yeah I agree

dire flare
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there was never even a second where I thought its another crewmate

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just an idiot jogging around with a big white mask

robust spade
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I remember seeing a screenshot of some entity puppeting a dead crewmat, that'd really be interesting to see

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I was guiding a buddy through the facility after a coil head jumpscared him. I offered words of encouragement, and said "You're doing great buddy, you're almost done!"

The coil head then repeated what I had said lmao

wispy wolf
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lol

lime urchin
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im running it fine

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since im hosting

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but anyone joining gets fucked over

wispy wolf
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hmm k did they have lethal progression installed

lime urchin
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nah

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just skinwalkers and moresuits

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same as me

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they can host