Lethal Things

[steady topaz]

eba if we ever make a creature

please lets make a creatue

i wanna sculpt

[willow abyss]

Make the weird dog i posted

[royal lynx]

Make a pterodactyl or smthn

[willow abyss]

But the weird dog

[royal lynx]

I'm planning on making one after seeing the tulip snake

True weird dog

It kinda reminds me of shrimp though

[restive zephyr]

https://delicious-fruit.com/ratings/game_details.php?id=18696 close enough

[willow abyss]

What is shrimp

[royal lynx]

Zeekers old game had a monster called shrimp

Some guy made it an enemy that eats scrap

[steady topaz]

its too simple theres no suclpting

[willow abyss]

The elevator game?

Hotel

Thing

[royal lynx]

Upturned or smrhn

[willow abyss]

Yeah that game with the fucked up framerate

[restive zephyr]

unturned

[willow abyss]

That feels like it plays at 10x speed

[royal lynx]

Sorry your tip is going down to 7 bucks, I'm buying snacks @steady topaz

[restive zephyr]

do you know of олейна

[steady topaz]

no

[restive zephyr]

vinesauce

[willow abyss]

Why are you eating pencils

Crayons are yummier

[royal lynx]

The taste of lead grew on me

It's like licorice

[steady topaz]

snap into a slim jim

[keen prawn]

why is your thumb so damn long

[high yew]

was about to ask that but thought it would be rude

[steady topaz]

That's my whole schtick

@high yew @keen prawn no one is ever ready when i show them The Big Thumb

[high yew]

i see a cat

[keen prawn]

oh my god

[high yew]

damn

what a cat

[steady topaz]

I wonder the same

[royal lynx]

messing with pitch is so nice

[restive zephyr]

fire in the hole

[royal lynx]

im making a tutorial for enemies and whatnot and i wasnt sure what enemy i'd reference while 3d modelling em, then i remembered eba had a bunch and i kinda liked these two (they're simple) the most for a new enemy.
i do have to ask though, do you have any problem with me using your drawings for reference @willow abyss?

[high yew]

caime

[royal lynx]

i havent decided which one ill use if i do get permission, im much better at animating humanoid than slime(?) but at the same time i gotta look up an old tutorial i used for adding something like that green dress lol

[astral bay]

Character modeling scary

[weary remnant]

I love Caime

Can I pet it

[willow abyss]

the left one is literally cookie

Bonus scrapped lethal things idea, i once planned to make it so when you give gremlin energy to the cookie fumo she would come to live and run into the nearest wall and knock herself out

cookie is not my design so i can't really give you permission for that one i guess, feel free to reference some other things though

[royal lynx]

looks like a cuter version >:3

ah rip

thank god i dont have to learn to model hair

[willow abyss]

the hair on the cookie fumo was a disaster originally

lmao

[royal lynx]

I can tell, looked at a quick tutorial on how to do hair and jeez it looked complicated

[astral bay]

Time to only model bald things

[royal lynx]

thats what i've been doing so far

also i totally forgot there was a dog that needed modelling up here somewhere

though these two are also really cute

im gonna somehow try making the squid

[astral bay]

I need to learn how to create characters

And more round things

Despite my like ~200 hours on blender I’m still kinda ass and can only do objects
Tbf I haven’t really attempted character modeling much but it’s because it overwhelms me

[willow abyss]

the squid was supposed to have clothes and be disguised as a human but i couldn't figure out how to draw clothes on him

[royal lynx]

was the inspiration octodad

[willow abyss]

no

[royal lynx]

oh dang

[willow abyss]

octodad was an afterthought

i realized it was gonna literally be octodad and scrapped it

it was a main character idea of a game i'm working on

lol

[royal lynx]

thats what im using as a 3d visualisation lmao, couldnt figure out how to do the back part of the head

ah icic

[lunar sun]

after seeing an issue that ive only experienced happen to someone else, probly time i reported. with toy hammer, there's an occasional bug where when you pick it up, it'll immediately go back to where it was picked up from. doesnt cause any inventory issue thankfully, but the bug remains

[royal lynx]

ik what you're talking about, i think i know the cause

[royal lynx]

never again am i doing an octopus, still not done but holy was this horrible to do

[lunar sun]

even if you did quit, i know what else it couldve been used for. tho thatd be adding more to the pile

[willow abyss]

lmao now give it a walk cycle

[royal lynx]

Yeah I can't wait to rig it :deadge

[lunar sun]

so this for an LC mod or slated for something else?

[royal lynx]

It's for a tutorial

[lunar sun]

ah

[small grove]

I think choosing an octopus might've been one of your worst ideas LMAO

and it still looks really good!!

[royal lynx]

The octopus isn't hard to model, I just used something to model humanoids on it and that screwed over 3 hours lol

Anyway give or take like another hour working on the Unity project, and then another hour or two on coding and it should be ready

[keen dock]

Excuse me
How to solve the problem that the rocket launcher cannot ammo after saving the file?

[small grove]

ahh makes snese

[steady topaz]

@royal lynx I can't believe eba gave you our squid 💔

[royal lynx]

you shoulda modelled it, it was pain

[steady topaz]

Naw itd hurt

[ionic ridge]

In the latest version I see that there is some content in the config disabled by default. Is it unfinished stuff that shouldn't be touched?

I see another enemy and a few items

[coral dawn]

the other enemy doesnt work iirc

not sure about items

[royal lynx]

Afaik cookie fumo doesn't work either

Well, the explosion doesn't, I'll have to recheck the code just incase

[coral dawn]

explosion ??

Doesnt maxwell do that?

[royal lynx]

Cookie fumo does too

[coral dawn]

Ouchy

[full magnet]

I recall Zeekers changed something about explosions in v50, Immortal Snail mod maker needed to change some thing on their end for their mod for it to properly work

Similarly whoever made Missile Turrets needs to change something on their end to get the missiles to properly kill players, it sort of just awkwardly flies at you forever rn

[glad yew]

Lmao how? @willow abyss

[restive zephyr]

aww it wants to say hi :3

[willow abyss]

how are yyou spectating it

[glad yew]

SpectateEnemies

[willow abyss]

boomba explosion does do damage right, i tested it like 2 days ago

or 3

[broken thicket]

I'm getting this error in the new update [19:54:06.7343863] [Error : Unity Log] MissingFieldException: Field not found: int .EnemyType.PowerLevel Due to: Could not find field in class
Stack trace:
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::BeginEnemySpawning(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::Update(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.TrampolineRoundManager::Update?31562690(RoundManager)
LethalThings.Patches.Debug.RoundManager_Update (On.RoundManager+orig_Update orig, RoundManager self) (at O:/github/LethalThings/LethalThings/Patches/Debug.cs:121)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookRoundManager::Update?-625192008(RoundManager)

[19:54:06.7343863] [Error : Unity Log] MissingFieldException: Field not found: int .EnemyType.PowerLevel Due to: Could not find field in class
Stack trace:
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::BeginEnemySpawning(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::Update(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.TrampolineRoundManager::Update?31562690(RoundManager)
LethalThings.Patches.Debug.RoundManager_Update (On.RoundManager+orig_Update orig, RoundManager self) (at O:/github/LethalThings/LethalThings/Patches/Debug.cs:121)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookRoundManager::Update?-625192008(RoundManager)

[manic wind]

Worked like 2 days ago when I tried

[halcyon ocean]

that's MonoMod making it look like LethalThings caused the issue, but I think it's likely that that's caused by a transpiler acting on BeginEnemySpawning

[broken thicket]

I dont have mono

[halcyon ocean]

wut

the game runs on mono lol

and MonoMod != Mono

[broken thicket]

oh I thought you meant the mod for console logging

[halcyon ocean]

also, if you have LethalLib then you have MonoMod patcher

Mono is a CLR implementation that C# code runs in

[broken thicket]

I dont have monomod patcher

I have HookGenPatcher though

[halcyon ocean]

that's the MonoMod patcher

[broken thicket]

oh

[halcyon ocean]

regardless, you can see it in the stack trace

[broken thicket]

what is the error mean

[halcyon ocean]

LethalThings.Patches.Debug.RoundManager_Update is a wrapper that calls through to the original function through its orig parameter

[broken thicket]

dose it mean no enemys spawn or only lethal things enemys

[halcyon ocean]

couldn't tell you

it depends on when the spawning happens and when the error happens, I don't know that code

all I'm saying is, the stack trace isn't telling you the culprit, you're gonna have to check if it's caused by Lethal Things or another mod

[broken thicket]

I think its lethallib

[manic wind]

Lethal lib is fine with lethal things

as its just a depandancy mod

the lethal things uses

[broken thicket]

https://github.com/EvaisaDev/LethalLib/issues/76

[manic wind]

That was fixed like a week ago

[broken thicket]

it got opened yesterday

the offical v50 came out sunday

[manic wind]

It still happens when you have masked enemy overhaul or the scp 96

v50 has been in beta for a while

so peeps have been modding and playing it

[broken thicket]

but the offical still changed some things

[halcyon ocean]

nobody provided logs on that issue so there's no way to know if that's a new issue or people that haven't updated

[broken thicket]

let me test to see if its lethallib

[manic wind]

What other mods are you using

as It cant be lethal lib itself, rather its a mod the uses it not being updated

[broken thicket]

its https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/jaspercreations/Scopophobia/

[manic wind]

yes

I said above it was broken

[broken thicket]

do they have a thread

[manic wind]

Its a know bug

fix is WIP

[halcyon ocean]

the fix for that particular error should just be a rebuild

[manic wind]

Wonder what taking so long for it, maybe hes fixing some other issues with the mod as well

[halcyon ocean]

I would imagine so yeah

there were a few other changes to AI that maybe affect that mod though, but I wouldn't think those fixes would be invasive

who knows though, I'm not an AI author

[manic wind]

I remember there being a bug where multiple 96s would spawn when only one spawnable

[halcyon ocean]

oh wait right, it had its own spawning mechanism didn't it

[manic wind]

yeah since more than 1 doesnt make sense

[halcyon ocean]

I think there's limits on some enemies in the game already too

[manic wind]

I once saw 4 on one map

[halcyon ocean]

but maybe they implemented a global limit instead of one for the interior and one for the exterior, which I think is how it works in vanilla

[royal lynx]

From what I know it's an abandoned project

But I donr wanna spread rumours so no clue

[manic wind]

I had heard its at least being patched but I could be wrong

[royal lynx]

Current lethal things doesn't have many problems, nor does lethal lib, I'll try to fix em if they pop up but there shouldn't be any unless it's about the unreleased enemies

[alpine wraith]

think they're just kinda MIA

[royal lynx]

I hope so

[astral axle]

I killed a Butler with one today. There was a desync where the Butler spawned hornets but also kept knifing me, but only for me, and was completely dead for everyone else but I have no evidence that it was caused by the Boomba

[royal lynx]

im sorry this looks so shit

[analog dock]

It looks adorable lol

[spring gate]

imagine turning around and you see this thing standing right in front of you

I'd shit myself

[ripe sand]

:3

[lunar sun]

now animate it suffocating a scavenger

[royal lynx]

God no

Just walking

And maybe an attack

[small grove]

wdymmmm it's so silly goofy!!!!

[keen dock]

Excuse me
When I looked in the log file to find the reason for this, I saw that will copy a rocket launcher by I saved.
Then I reopened the save file,It will spawn that copied rocket launcher in the game.
Is there any way to solve this? Because that copied rocket launcher certain have no ammo.

[glad yew]

We don't know that for sure

The dev has said nothing as of late

Don't spread false information unless you know for sure

[manic wind]

Yeah I was mistaken

Sorry

[glad yew]

It's fine

[manic wind]

I was thinking of another mod

[glad yew]

I want Scopophobia to come back too but I'm fearing it may be abandoned

😦

[manic wind]

Maybe someone could contect the creator at some point to ask to fork it?

[glad yew]

The mod doesn't have a github

[manic wind]

when hes online I mean

[manic wind]

Dam

[astral bay]

man its such a fun mod

I have so many countless times where im going up a hill or rounding a corner

and I just end up having my crosshair places right on him

and just scream my head off running and then pulling the ship lever

[glad yew]

lol

[glad yew]

@willow abyss

Got this for some reason

[high yew]

my clients are getting their logs absolutely flooded

[willow abyss]

whuh?

i did not get that when testing a few days ago

sounds like handheld radar

[glad yew]

Yeah idk why it errored, I don't even have it enabled

[willow abyss]

ehh the hooks don't really check whether it is enabled

they just don't do anything

alright i pushed an update that might fix this maybe @glad yew @high yew

[high yew]

ty

[high yew]

@willow abyss #help-and-troubleshooting message

still having the same radar error spammed to clients 😦

[willow abyss]

no idea then

i am unable to reproduce it for some reason

[high yew]

i might have an idea as to why it is happening cause it persists after disabling lt, but still thanks for looking into it

[willow abyss]

yeah i have no clue, the stack trace doesn't give much insight since the only reason it lists lethal things is because lethal things happens to hook the function where the error happens

in the latest version if you have the radar disabled lethalthings just routes the function call to the vanilla one so there is no extra custom code being ran

so something else must be causing it i am guessing

dunno sorry

[high yew]

nws

it was dont touch me if youre interested (the enemy mod that has an apostrophe in the enemy name)

[honest solar]

But you knew this 6 hours ago already...

[high yew]

?

oh i didnt think that we had the same issue cause you only provided the logs and didnt describe it

or i just didnt notice

[honest solar]

I said it was dtm enemy and you even pinged the modcreator

[high yew]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/168926109411442688/1219940715505651762/IMG_8901.gif

[royal nimbus]

Hey, don't know where to put this since I can't see a LethalLib thread, but the LevelTypes enums need to be updated to use the new v50 moons

Currently these use the modded spawn values for items

[visual prawn]

truing but i do suggest moving to LLL for that

[royal nimbus]

Oh is LethalLib going to be deprecated or something? Why move? (genuine questions)

[visual prawn]

LethalLib isn't getting active content updates anymore, LLL is the main API going forward

Has a lot more features too

[royal lynx]

(Itll be updated for that soon but do just go to LLL)

[willow abyss]

LethalLib is kinda in a legacy state atm, itll get updated with game updates as long as someone is interested in doing so, but won't really get any new features or anything probably

[royal nimbus]

Didn't see much documentation on adding custom items in LLL which is why I ask

[willow abyss]

also lethallib thread was here #1178447015533871174 :p

[lunar sun]

alrighty, finished a day after settin a few things up. after finishing a day and seeing my rank progress, the game softlocked. it didnt show my remaining days nor progress into the next one. these were the errors thrown.

for some reason the sign in this conflicts with betaweathertweaks. i dont understand how, but it's there

i know betaweathertweaks is experimental, but the game seems pretty adamant in pointing me towards lethalthings

[glad yew]

@desert ravine you may wanna look at this too, incase it's not WeatherTweaks I think it's just LT throwing a fit

[lunar sun]

looks like remote radar threw the errors as well

[desert ravine]

you were a host?

[lunar sun]

full on solo

regenerating config rn

... im starting to home in on it...

the day shifted over, but i forgot to disable transitional, combination, and unknown weathers and it resulted in the lattermost.

[glad yew]

@desert ravine MROV!!!!!!!!!

[lunar sun]

yup... one of them being disabled broke it. heck.

[desert ravine]

🤔🤔

that'sweird

do you have a full log from that session?

[lunar sun]

brain is tired rn. i'll try and figure out which one it is tomorrow

[desert ravine]

because this portion tells me nothing 😭

[lunar sun]

full log, untrimmed.

[desert ravine]

thank you 🙏

[royal lynx]

You're welcome

[lunar sun]

?

[high yew]

https://tenor.com/view/jedi-starwars-mind-trick-obiwan-gif-5199308

[desert ravine]

i think i see what's happening

[08:25:40.8663895] [Debug  :WeatherTweaks] uncertainTypes: 0
[08:25:40.8683914] [Error  : Unity Log] ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection.

[desert ravine]

i've pushed an update which should fix your issue 😇

[lunar sun]

ill test er out later. thanks, boyo

@willow abyss sorry for turnin yer thread into a troubleshoot for a completely different mod

[willow abyss]

it is fine, it happens constantly because lethalthings hooks so many things so it shows up in like every stacktrace lmao

[visual prawn]

Mono my nemesis

[astral axle]

In Lunxara's stream games we've started referring to Arson as god

[manic wind]

Does arson commit arson tho

[astral axle]

I'll never tell

[lunar sun]

https://tenor.com/view/wah-serval-wah-serval-blue-corner-wah-wah-wah-gif-9294668074869302114

[desert ravine]

it's in the name 🤭

[pulsar wigeon]

https://github.com/EvaisaDev/LethalThings/issues/60

[royal lynx]

problem is thats like infinite bullets lmao

definitely bad for balance

[coral dawn]

Could balance something like that with having the revolver only have a couple interactions before it cant do anything when clicking

or, possibly a bit complicated but have a random amount of bullets for one revolver and have the interaction chance be the same, 50-50

Either shoot or do the original behavior

I personally think its fine as it is though

[glad yew]

@willow abyss Toy Hammers still aren't deleted on death or when getting sucked out of the ship

[rugged pivot]

I personally think it's fine for the revolvers to just stay as a scrap item. There's other mods that add more weapons in creative and/or balanced ways

[small grove]

gunplay, though fun in theory, is very hard to balance in a game like lethal company tbh

[chrome dome]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Piggy/Piggys_Variety_Mod/

someone already added a revolver that actually works pretty nicely

[errant basin]

I like to freecam at the end of matches to see what spawned and such, and I often see one or more Toy Hammers floating in the void

[gaunt aspen]

@willow abyss hey evaisa, I have a quick question on how you setup your items. where can I find the settings to change the onscreen prompt on the top right corner? i.e.("Swing Hammer", "Play music" etc)

[royal lynx]

the item scriptable object

but for actual input stuff, you need to get the input utils dependency and use that

[gaunt aspen]

the scriptable object doesnt really tell me how it differentiate between Signs and shovels tho, is item Id what it's using? since thats the only difference

for shovel, its id 7

[royal lynx]

only shovel and knife have id's, keep the rest at 0

[long grotto]

Hey Xu

Real quick

[royal lynx]

hello

whats up

[gaunt aspen]

IM FKIN BLIND THANK YOU

[long grotto]

I may or may not waanna know this cuz of an idea I have in my head which is also what I put in Mod ideas I may or may not be going through with

[royal lynx]

this is JUST for looks, this doesnt register anything in terms of key binds, you'll have to do that elsewere

[long grotto]

But what is this application you’re using?

[royal lynx]

uhuh

application?

[long grotto]

This

[gaunt aspen]

yeah thats exactly what I was looking for lmao

[royal lynx]

thats... unity

[long grotto]

And also what they have

[long grotto]

Oh

Im so stupid…

Thank you

[royal lynx]

specifically version 2022.3.9f1 lol

[long grotto]

Holy

Is that the definitive version?

[royal lynx]

thats the version you need

[long grotto]

Ight

Thank you!

[honest solar]

im getting some desync errors in multiplayer and clients get spammed this error

[19:08:20.6542239] [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
LethalThings.MonoBehaviours.HandheldRadar.ManualCameraRenderer_Update (On.ManualCameraRenderer+orig_Update orig, ManualCameraRenderer self) (at O:/github/LethalThings/LethalThings/MonoBehaviours/HandheldRadar.cs:39)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookManualCameraRenderer::Update?1460513340(ManualCameraRenderer)

[reef relic]

Who Is Maggie

?

[royal lynx]

unreleased enemy, ill probably polish her up and try and release when LLL is stable and whatnot

[reef relic]

Cool

[manic wind]

looks like maggy somehow spawned

[glad yew]

It can right now unless you disable it in the config

How well it works idk

[manic wind]

Ohh

ok

I though it couldnt spawn period

[glad yew]

Eba forgot to remove the unfinished enemies from spawning and never bothered to fix it

[lunar sun]

what's Maggie even look like?

[manic wind]

Employee + snare flea

like the movie the fly

[lunar sun]

sounds gross. i like it

[manic wind]

Seems to work ok, at least more than the ray

[lunar sun]

ray drops a glowing crystal on death. it has use to me 😄

[manic wind]

im just sad it doesnt seem to move

like at all

[glad yew]

Wait does it?

What is the crystal used for though?

[lunar sun]

sell probably

yea, i killed one once with my other crew. facility meltdown spawned one. shot it a few times. gave a crystal

[brittle ore]

is there anyone here or the modders themselves especially posted audio file of the transmeow

i wanna make it as a soundboard on my server if i have the permission

🥺

[royal lynx]

hmm

there we go

[brittle ore]

!! Thank youuu!!! 😭 😭 bless ya

[restive zephyr]

is this skittl

[drifting sable]

I'm too rich😎 , and as any ultra rich person should, I bought all of America's arsenal🇺🇸 , but when I went back to the game lobby, I saw that ALL of the weapons I bought turned to PUMP🧨🧨🧨! How do I fix this?

[royal lynx]

This is a known problem that might get fixed in the LLL port as I clean up code

[drifting sable]

What am I supposed to do with this junk?

[royal lynx]

Leave the lobby, rejoin

It'll go back to normal

[drifting sable]

🤔

[little eagle]

Does this extend to the item drone thing and crystal ray?

[royal lynx]

Their models etc are probably done so I'll try and see what I can do

[little eagle]

I think ray had animations and possibly even sound. No idea about drone outside of model and the dozens of names it was supposed to generate with.

[willow abyss]

the ray was mostly done except the AI is a bit jank

it is basically a flying lightsource that you can tame like a minecraft cat to have it follow you around or kill to get the crystal to sell

but AI was not my experise so i never got it to behave as I wanted

boomba same story actually lol, boomba was not supposed to be able to climb stairs or jump gaps originally but i never figured out how to prevent that because of how the pathfinding works

[glad yew]

Lol the only jank thing I saw about a Boomba was that one that got stuck chilling on that table

XD

TP traps are another story unfortunately those are the thing that haven't held up well, we had a lot of issues of people being teleported over death gaps or into walls recently

XD

In fact Boomba on table was probably cus of a tp trap

XD

[astral axle]

TP traps are my favourite part of the mod tbh

[willow abyss]

the tp traps being an issue has always been funny because i just ripped the code directly from the inverse teleporter

in fact i got stuck behind pipes all the time with the inverse tele back when i still played the game

[glad yew]

Haha I've had that

[rugged pivot]

yeah the TP trap does the same stuff the inverse does

namely it can just drop you into pits

or get you stuck behind the dumb pipes on factory

(also can very frequently warp you into locked rooms)

[willow abyss]

also it kinda makes sense because they are meant to be traps

not just a way to escape bad situations without danger

lol

[rugged pivot]

yeah I think it's fine for them to sometimes kill you, otherwise they'd mostly be an advantage lol

getting stuck in walls is balls though

[manic wind]

just curious, how is maggie supposed to act, from testing it acted like a more frantic masked

[willow abyss]

it is basically just a zombie, that wanders around until it spots someone.
It was pretty much finished. Maggie or "the lost" are basically just humans that were lost in teleportation, they have no real intelligence.

The whole idea was that it would catch people off-guard if they inverse teleport someone who is about to die and the target arrives as that

it can't interact with stuff like the masked, can't climb ladders, or open doors (though not 100% sure on the doors part)

[manic wind]

huh nice, since it seems to work decent enough I may add it to the spawns of my moon with bug themed enemies

[willow abyss]

the only reason i didn't mean to release it yet is because it just feels unpolished

it should work as intended

[manic wind]

I feel I have more unpolished stuff that that in my pack so its not an issue for me

lol

[young tree]

yeah exactly

[small grove]

LLL LLL LLL LLL LLL GRAAAAH LLL WOOO YEAAAAH GGRGRGRHHGRHGH

wait wrong thread

[astral bay]

LMAO

[weary remnant]

Did original LLL finally update?

[long grotto]

wait what?

[small grove]

yerp, it updated

[weary remnant]

🎉🎊🎉🎊

[small grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974425485222236180/1229186779412959252/shake.gif

[weary remnant]

Can't wait for lots of mods to migrate to it

[mighty spruce]

Uh. what is maggie and the ray?

just saw them appear in my stuff

haven't encountered them yet.

but dunno what kind of value I should give them for lethalsnaps before then. :V

[royal nimbus]

Maggie: #1178456016254414878 message
Ray: #1178456016254414878 message

[mighty spruce]

ah. sooo they work but maybe slightly janky?

so ones a zombie and ones some kind of semi-friendly crystal light?

[little eagle]

There was also a little driving drone that was supposed to deliver items back and forth from ship to facility. Few people here came up with dozens of names it could spawn with iirc

[royal lynx]

That one never really went anywhere afaik

[full magnet]

Ah yes the Packmule

[lunar sun]

reloadable rocket launcher, my beloved

[tepid parrot]

@royal lynx

I request Lethal Things to have a very expensive Flame Thrower. WIth expensive Fuel tanks.

Seing as fire damage is in the game I would like it for use with killing fire weakness enemies.

I would also like to impliment Flamible Hydroderes in Shattered Company. 😄

[young tree]

that would be sick

[royal lynx]

Fire damage isn't really in the game

[ripe sand]

why dont you just make it :3

[royal lynx]

Cuz you're a meanie

[tepid parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-what-are-you-waiting-for-determined-angry-gif-5247874

Don't let MY dreams be dreams!!!

[ripe sand]

xu's dreams of having a functioning camera are still dreams so :3

[tepid parrot]

hahaha

[royal lynx]

i wouldnt know how to model a flamethrower anyway lol

[royal nimbus]

Sideways homemade flashbang with old bird fire hehe

[full magnet]

Molotov Cocktail would prob be an easy start for something fire-based, I imagine just have it spawn a pool of fire on the location it lands that disappears over time

And true I don't believe we actually have ANY "fire" damage, the only damage that looks like it is fire is Giants literally burning to death, but I think the condition for that is if the giant comes into contact with explosion damage

So if you theoretically have a landmine outside and set it off near a Giant, it'd burn to death from that too

[steady topaz]

Heed my warning that if you add things that i don't like to the mod then I'm gonna start biting

You shall NOT blindly fulfill the suggestions of those peasants

[willow abyss]

i bet if i drew bobilka a flamethrower he would model it anyway

[royal lynx]

Great

[steady topaz]

I would model it but I wouldn't want it in the mod

[royal lynx]

It would also be annoying to code

[willow abyss]

we kinda strayed away from adding more weapons

[royal lynx]

Balancing wise and actual item wise

Yeah

[willow abyss]

because i do not like the game becoming trivial

thats why rocket launcher doesn't have buyable ammo

it was always meant to be a last resort

[steady topaz]

Also I'm split in that i do not wanna make models for the mod for you for free but also I wouldn't want any other PEASANT modeller in here

I'd tear them to shreds

[willow abyss]

lmao

[royal lynx]

That's quite the split

You're like a jealous ex wife

[willow abyss]

i literally cannot leave bilka alone in a room with another modeler

antlers is the only one bilka tolerates

[steady topaz]

So is eba. I made a model for ONE other mod and she said i cheated

[willow abyss]

so true

[royal lynx]

I can model... alright...

[steady topaz]

Cursed to be unpaid intern cause eba is a broke friend

[steady topaz]

I'll tear you apart too

[royal lynx]

Not before I do first

[steady topaz]

I'm like nintendo

[royal lynx]

I'll be the pixelmon to your nintendo

Where I can weirdly co exist

[willow abyss]

but more seriously, if you want to add new things for lethal things besides the stuff that was planned i'd like you to run them by me, and i'm down to draw concept art if a like it

[steady topaz]

Hi eba can i have some moneys

[steady topaz]

run by eba and me too

[royal lynx]

I have big ambitions for my own mod so I'll just probably be a maintainer lol

[willow abyss]

yeah that's fine

[steady topaz]

And if i approve i might make a model

[willow abyss]

that's basically what i expected

though i really wanna see robot fren

:(

[royal lynx]

Well is it modelled?

[willow abyss]

yeah

it is in the files i sent you

[steady topaz]

I'd gnaw on the author if i knew them

[willow abyss]

delivery man

[royal lynx]

I can do the enemy AI for it whenever I'm free if you'd want, it didn't seem too difficult

[astral bay]

And if you don’t approve then I will make the model forcing you to approve and make the model 😈

Because you don’t want any other modelers

[steady topaz]

Is this you

[astral bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396860171541807105/1231825888191189154/dead-ass.gif

[willow abyss]

probably after the mod is ported and cleaned up (iirc you wanted to do that?)

[royal lynx]

I really like how the manta Ray looks so I wanna fix that one first then see what else needs fixing

[steady topaz]

Eba can we eliminate this dinky slap of mayo

[royal lynx]

Yee

[visual prawn]

Can I see the delivery man

[royal lynx]

I'll probably port it later today or tmrw, I got it decently figured out

[steady topaz]

Eba why is everyone playing on my envy so cruelly

[royal lynx]

I wonder

[willow abyss]

i wish it was easier to search forum threads

[astral bay]

Discord BLAST

Small indie company

[willow abyss]

https://share.evaisa.dev/PLrc2F3h3.png

this guy

[steady topaz]

Hey eba let's make a game

[royal lynx]

You're never getting funded

[visual prawn]

Interesting

[royal lynx]

At this rate

[steady topaz]

I don't like this model it's too high res in texturing......

[willow abyss]

you literally bit crush your textures

[visual prawn]

I have three fatal issues with this fantastic model

[steady topaz]

So insulting

[royal lynx]

Then re do it, you probably have like a while before I'm done figuring it out and cleaning

[steady topaz]

I BAKE them

Which is more sophisticated than BITCRUSHING

[astral bay]

Bro puts them in the oven

[steady topaz]

No......

[royal lynx]

Smh

[willow abyss]

bilka died last time they tried to model the delivery rover

[royal lynx]

Always problems never solutions

[visual prawn]

It doesn’t have legs, it doesn’t have a face and It can’t fall down hills while making a autotuned bitcrunched 3d spatial scream

[willow abyss]

https://share.evaisa.dev/OsiL7KdxM.png

[steady topaz]

Eba

You say this

But the reference that I HAD did not have the front view

[astral bay]

That’s a top view

[visual prawn]

This device is too good

[steady topaz]

So i see this as a clear sabotage because you FAVORED the other modeler

[willow abyss]

yeah but i like bullying you

[royal lynx]

gasp there was another modeller

[willow abyss]

https://trello.com/c/L36UAM5p/15-delivery-robot

Trello

Delivery robot

• Spawns in dormant stage
• When activated while outside the ship, will pathfind back to ship.
• When activated inside the ship, will pathfind to the front entrance of any facility.
• Has a basket which can hold items.
• Has limited fuel, can be refueled using gasoline bought from store.
• Is radar trackable (With a random name)
• Is scan pingab...

Labels

Feature, Store Item, Model claimed

[visual prawn]

You gotta make a delivery robot less practical so it can fail in funny ways

[willow abyss]

it was designed to be impractical

[royal lynx]

Just give it a forest giant threat type and let baboon hawks attack it

Ezpz

[willow abyss]

such as it can only pathfind one way

and can run out of gas outside

if you leave it behind on the planet you lose it

[steady topaz]

Eba you're evil

[willow abyss]

the whole concept of this this thing was to get people emotionally attached to it

lmao

originally i wanted to let people decorate it with a sticker pack

[royal lynx]

Oh, can't register it as an enemy then, technically an item?

[willow abyss]

it already has some stuff set up

it is actually a decor item

[royal lynx]

Interesting

[visual prawn]

imo a delivery robot idea is not complete until it looks like this, walks off a cliff and falls down tremendously

[royal lynx]

Ooh

[steady topaz]

Eba

Eba

[willow abyss]

basically i already set up templates

but no actual mechanics

[steady topaz]

Eba do you need models

[royal lynx]

Fun I can work with that

[willow abyss]

it also has a ton of random names already defined lol

[willow abyss]

bilka i'm eba

hi

[steady topaz]

Waaaaaaaaa

[willow abyss]

i'm working on the pixel game tho

[desert ravine]

👀

[royal lynx]

Pixel game?

[visual prawn]

@steady topaz you make models

[willow abyss]

noita, working on my online pvp mod

[royal lynx]

Ahhh that one

[steady topaz]

How much you paying?

[visual prawn]

about as much as people are paying me

😛

[steady topaz]

Then i ain't no whar s whats a model

[royal lynx]

What

[visual prawn]

thats fair

[astral bay]

I make subpar models if stinky bobilka doesn’t want

[willow abyss]

you need to befriend bilka and lock them in your basement to get them to model for free

[willow abyss]

why is the bottom left one so scrunkly

[steady topaz]

Suddenly, you feel yourself vaporizing

[visual prawn]

i have this placable zipline code i made for a unity project laying around that i keep thinking might be a cool lc mod

[desert ravine]

YES PLEASE

[royal lynx]

I still really like the dark "fat ass" doll thing

[desert ravine]

oh my god

[visual prawn]

it does players and items

[willow abyss]

deep rock

[steady topaz]

It's a demon his name is gnaw

He is NOT for lethalthings

[royal lynx]

Yum

[steady topaz]

Demons are formed when a person dies in a horrible and grotesque way, the type of demon depends on the injuries

Gnaw is decapitation ig

I didn't make this lore

[willow abyss]

https://share.evaisa.dev/M8t1hTtmU.png

[royal lynx]

Yeah lore too good to be made by modeller

[astral bay]

I could make something :3

I have 5 seconds to live after sending that message

[royal lynx]

I love my internet being too bad to load this

[steady topaz]

You know what i CAN make very good?

Knuckle sandwiches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[royal lynx]

:3c

Try me

[steady topaz]

5'4 british kid VS 6'2 russian BILKA

[astral bay]

I’m taller I win

[royal lynx]

Howd you know I live in the UK

Kinda sus

Also I wish I was 5ft 4

[steady topaz]

Your memory lasts a week i see

[royal lynx]

Usually 30 minutes to an hour ywah

[visual prawn]

👁️. im not in a rush but proper looking models would make me wanna do it more

[steady topaz]

You dealt in pounds of course you're british

[royal lynx]

Damn @willow abyss you sure your modeller ain't Watson or sherlock in disguise?

I'm surprised you remembered

[steady topaz]

Get out of lethalthings this is my territory!!!!

[visual prawn]

it can be in lethalthings

i dont care

itsj ust a cool idea

[steady topaz]

I remember everything about the 3D modelling pipeline that Ultrakill 3D artists follow

[royal lynx]

What's the idea it ain't loading 😭

[visual prawn]

😭

[steady topaz]

Ask me something and if actiondawg had told me that then i can recall the exact message and tell you

[royal lynx]

I remember what I ate for breakfast

[visual prawn]

you can place a zipline anchor at two points on the map and move players and items between them

[steady topaz]

Toast

[royal lynx]

Oohh

[willow abyss]

i really like that idea

[astral bay]

Give it a chance to just fucking snap and kill you

[visual prawn]

did u see the gif its coool

[royal lynx]

That's a nice idea but idk if lc has enough mountains or stuff like to use it in

[visual prawn]

the codes like done-ish lol

[royal lynx]

Could just be a cool thing to have

[willow abyss]

well could also just be for sending stuff across plains

[visual prawn]

adamance bridge

titan

offense fire escape

[willow abyss]

maybe

idk

[visual prawn]

etc.

[royal lynx]

...yeah, I ate toast

[astral bay]

Batby I’ll make a shitass model if you give me references or concept art

[willow abyss]

it is kinda specific

[visual prawn]

you can use on company to move loot faster

[royal lynx]

Deliver bot 2.0 (/j) but I do like the idea ywah

[willow abyss]

yeahh kinda

besides getting over gaps i dunno

[royal lynx]

Ngl scrap eaters is pretty nice visually, maybe u can have Wesley cook up a specific map for it

[willow abyss]

not sure i'd want it to work very long distance

[steady topaz]

Because of course you did

What a broke ass gobbleshite mayoclap horsebagger

[royal lynx]

I bought toast this morning cuz we ran out a month ago and I was craving it, stop spying on me

[royal lynx]

Wharrido

[steady topaz]

BOUGHT toast????

[royal lynx]

Well, bought stuff to make toast

[steady topaz]

Chat, it's terminal

[visual prawn]

the kinda gimmick is it only works in the direction its going from higher to lower from and the inherit implication of if you need to collect it to bring it back to the ship you cant use it to get back

[royal lynx]

It's a niche gimmick but might be fun if you can cook up some common use for it or smthn

Or like a side mechanic

[royal lynx]

I dont get it, what's wrong with making toast

[steady topaz]

It's not a fulfilling breakfast

[royal lynx]

I have a dentist appointment tho, I can't eat or they get mad

[steady topaz]

Snack on their tools

[royal lynx]

I was about to say something but I'm stopping myself

[eternal condor]

Its worked on me already. Love this lil fella.

[steady topaz]

if you ever wonder

[royal lynx]

That's so cool

[small grove]

i hate that we have the same colors in our pfps i thought this was me in the thread for like 10 seconds

[restive zephyr]

eyes,,,

[shadow reef]

Is there a way to increase the battery life of the remote radar?

[rugged pivot]

I think you might be able to use another tool like Lethal Quantities to configure it, there's no way within the mod itself

[plush jay]

me too omg i've been thinking of that so much a little buddy to help you

[astral axle]

I want little buddy to be able to fall over

[steady topaz]

just a texturing practice with substance painter

@willow abyss wouldnt it be funny if we added HD remote radar

[royal lynx]

Lmao

[twin pumice]

so is the maggie and cyrstal enemies working rn?

[small grove]

pretty much, i think

[manic wind]

Eh, idk about crytal ray, they seem "working" but rather feature incomplete

maggie seems alright

[acoustic pewter]

maggies animations are a bit wacky in some part but thats all ive really seen of them

[sly oracle]

hey guys i have a question. i wanna manage the spawn weight of the boomba via lethalquantities. can i just set the spawn weight for it in lethalthing's config to 0 so that this mod doesnt alter the spawn weight?

[brittle ore]

where are these enemies from?

[south cloak]

Lethal Quantities will override LT's config

[sly oracle]

okay but does it do that with all mods that manage their enemy spawn weight?

[south cloak]

Yes

[twin pumice]

What does Maggie do

[latent flare]

Hello, just wondering what are maggie and crystal ray inside config? Thank you

[manic wind]

enemies that are kind unpolished but work rn

[latent flare]

oh thank you

[manic wind]

they were wip and left in by accident

[short gale]

any advice?

[royal lynx]

Looks more like an error with lcgoldscrap

[short gale]

is there a thread for goldscrap? I cant find it

[royal lynx]

Dunno

[eternal condor]

The dev is in this server but idk if it’d be rude to bring up the issues without a thread.

[manic wind]

You can, they are chill, just dont spam them

[sly oracle]

would be nice to have a config for how fast the boomba drives

[high yew]

huhhhhhh?????????

i thought it was not implemented?

[tough frigate]

I would like feedback

[manic wind]

they are in the v50 version, ray is pretty unfinished but the other new enemy maggie works alright

[tough frigate]

also why do you hate the fiend, may you give me some feedback that I can improved ^ ^

[manic wind]

It just doesn't fit what me and my friends like with a custom enemy, most of his mechanics feel like a mishmash of other enemies thrown into one while also having him be pretty op, then there is the look, the model is fine but the animations and jumpscare are cheesy. Also thr pro flashlight stun doesnt seem to work. This isnt meant to be a personal attack I just feel that the execution is very lacking

[tough frigate]

I mean I understand, it is my first mod lmao, but after my exams Im going do a update and im adding a counter to it

and fix some stuff

and nerfs

[manic wind]

Nice hope to see it, and I hope you dont feel presured to do so, any comment on the animations as I mentioned?

[tough frigate]

animations are a mess because the model is from another game but I can try to rework it

I cant move only rotate because it would get stuck

[manic wind]

Understandable, animations are hard and when importing a model I can imagine the pain, maybe try working with someone in #1210315682613436446 on the server and maybe they can rig it better

[tough frigate]

I did

they made better model and animation but It also messed up the code

[manic wind]

Ah

[royal lynx]

in terms of timings?

[tough frigate]

the model was not right size and the animations was broken when imported because of unity

position key in unity can be world space or local position and it was world space

[royal lynx]

ah, idk if i'd blame unity entirely for broken animations but yeah size can be a pretty important factor for how you want things to look

[tough frigate]

the position keys was world space

[royal lynx]

idk what that is, but if its harmful, it shouldnt be a default option

i've never ran into that anyway

[manic wind]

Another reason ive kinda came to hate the mod were people complaining all modded enemies are unabalnced and using him as an example

[royal lynx]

fiend was one of those early enemies you'd see being showed off, then people would criticise it for being a jumpscare-only enemy and custom enemies just kept that reputation lol, in no way you're fault but it's something that annoyed me

[tough frigate]

Local space is the position of an object related to another object.

[manic wind]

I agree its not his fault

[royal lynx]

yeah im not sure why it would import that as a default, i've switched my redwood and driftwood's animations a few times and haven't experienced anything like that

[tough frigate]

yes idk why unity did it for my model

[manic wind]

I will say from the design rather that walking I imagined it was gonna levitate

[tough frigate]

I could rework walk anim to just float

hover

fiend means demon and demon is type of ghost

[manic wind]

lemme find a good example

of what I was thinking

[royal lynx]

you'd probably have to reanimate the walking them, floating-wandering and floating-chasing are very different looks from onground-wandering and onground-chasing

[manic wind]

yeah

airwalking is even more goofy

[tough frigate]

Levitation Animation Pack on roblox

[manic wind]

id imagine id be really hard tho

[tough frigate]

I just rotate the fiend bit forward

[royal lynx]

ehhh maybe, most people wont bat an eye towards it, i tend to be very particular about it for my enemies because for their size, every single movement people will notice and analyse

and try to find faults

[manic wind]

I cant find and example but ill decribe what id say is a floating chase

body tilted forward

head facing straight ahead

[tough frigate]

I cant animate the head because its moved by it self 😉

[manic wind]

?, how does that work

[tough frigate]

late update

thing in code

that let you move stuff after the animation is done with a keyframe

[royal lynx]

i think the only type of actual animation i do for my enemy in code is the spawning animation with a small size up animation lol

anything other than that and i'd be overstepping what i should be doing in code imo

[tough frigate]

oh yeah the animation smoothness is bit bad, I will fix it

switching to diff animations

[manic wind]

ok besides that id say then have the legs slightly bend and the hands down its sides

when stopped chest and legs return tho 90 degree orientation but still levitating

[sly oracle]

does anyone know anything about this?
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1234227172861018182

[scenic rapids]

try disabling GiantSpecimens

latest update was doing that for me

[sly oracle]

oh.. huh.. okay. ill try when we play next time. maybe then they can join properly

[sly oracle]

is there a working version for v50 i can downgrade to?

[scenic rapids]

Probably the previous I guess, I already reported it to the dev

[royal lynx]

What

[sly oracle]

im just wondering why this mod is able to cause something like this: https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1234227172861018182

[scenic rapids]

🤷‍♂️

[sly oracle]

exact same issue for you and your friends?

[scenic rapids]

No, I'm not using LethalThings

[astral bay]

• Corny ahh jumpscare (jumpscares just sorta don’t work in this game)
• Tries to be way to many thing at once (more abilities does not make it more engaging / enjoyable if anything it had the reverse effect)
• Goofy ahh walk
• Very unfair basically zero counterplay

Don’t take this the wrong way no trying to insult you or the mod just giving my thoughts

[tough frigate]

there will be a counterplay in the next update, and animation rework.

huge nerf on abilities

[sturdy skiff]

Aawwwwwww I thought it was like some kind of floating light bulb not an actual manta ray

[ionic ridge]

Confused as to what Maggie and Crystal Ray are supposed to do

[manic wind]

maggie acts similer to a masked

[ionic ridge]

I know they are not finished and shouldn't be used but was just curious as to what they were supposed to be

[manic wind]

crystal ray is unfinished and basically does nothing

oh

crytal ray was supposed to be a pet or something

you were supposed to be able to pet it

[ionic ridge]

oh ok

[manic wind]

you can also kill it for a crystal scrap

if it remeber

[manic wind]

for further clarification maggie besides spawning normally would spawn if you teleported someone with a snare flea on their head

[ionic ridge]

oh that's why they are snare flea adjacent

In design

[twin pumice]

I still had a lot of fun with it

No other monster made my friends and I scream over the fiend

[twin pumice]

You could be a bit more nice saying this, the “goofy ahh” can come off as rude

[astral bay]

thats true

thats how I type tho out of habit

[twin pumice]

Fair

I just really don’t like negativity in modding communities in general, I don’t want to the incident to happen again. And a lot of people tend to just hate on mods with no critiscm or say it in a rude way. The amount of people that hate on LE in a rude manor actually pisses me. “lE iS a bLOaTeD mEsS🤮”

Since LLL came out people always say this about LE, not saying it’s LLL fault or batby, in fact batby is actually really respectful about that lol

[manic wind]

I say that shit cause honestly Im brutally honest with my opinions

I even said I dont blame the fiend dev for this but I feel gives a really bad impression on modded enemies since it was on of the first

[twin pumice]

You should give Critisicm in a respectful way tho

[manic wind]

I was respectful, I just didnt pull any punches, I even said I dont have any ill feeling towards the dev

[twin pumice]

Then that’s good I wasn’t specially targeting you when I said that

But there is a lot of people who do

Who just say “this mod sucks”

[manic wind]

I more said I hate the mod than it sucks, I dont hare the creator

[royal lynx]

They're entitled to their opinion

They don't gotta be nice about how they think about a mod

[royal lynx]

Also LE is a bloated mess

It just is

[twin pumice]

Rather than saying “ the running animation is absolutely garbage and trash”, you could say “ the running animation could be improved on”

[royal lynx]

People can sugarcoat their words but they don't need to and they shouldn't come of as bad people for not sugarcoating

[twin pumice]

Everyone is, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be rude about it. Saying stuff like that just makes you an annoying hater

[royal lynx]

[twin pumice]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[manic wind]

Ill be honest when I said I hate the mod and think its bad but I also tell what I like and what I feel could be done

to make it better

I try no to be tooo rude

[twin pumice]

Yea which you did

Which is good

If your going to say you hate a mod, at least back up your opinion and give feedback

Actual feedback

[manic wind]

Its a mixed thing for me, I dont think people should not hold their tongue on their honest opinions but also think you shouldnt be needless cruel

[twin pumice]

They should express their honest opinion, but say in a decent respectful matter

[twin pumice]

It is but it was the first mod to add moons and all that stuff, and you could say it in a more respectful way. It def did bloat

[manic wind]

I just clown on people who want a port of it or still use it

lol

[twin pumice]

lol

[royal lynx]

I agree, but I'm not trynna sugar coat things so people think it's good to use :p

[twin pumice]

It was good at the time, but now the future haha been paved

[twin pumice]

No need to sugar coat, simply express your words respectfully, I never said to change your meaning

[royal lynx]

I dont think my words were harsh or unrespectful

It's the simple truth of what LE currently is

It added things it should've never added as an api

Like a moon and some scrsp

[manic wind]

Yeah, at least with AC it was content first, config seccondary

[twin pumice]

i dont mean that ur words were rude, but a lot of other people are annoying about it

[somber atlas]

Not sure why, but the toy hammer in my game last night was stuck on the ground and couldnt be picked up. Went to a new moon and it was in the same exact spot and issue

[primal dagger]

would be cool if you got get rocket launchers from old birds ion one way or another - old birds shoot 4 rockets, rocket launchers shoot 4 rockets ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dusty heart]

that thing is huge but i like the idea

[royal lynx]

Old birds can't die anyway

[steady topaz]

the rocket launcher is far more lethal than the old bird rockets

[royal lynx]

Is it? How much damage if you know I could check I'm just lazy

[steady topaz]

around landmine damage i.e. instakill

the old birds deal 30 damage at most and most of the time just launch you

[royal lynx]

Ah I was mostly considering damage to monsters tbh

But yeah to players def not same

[steady topaz]

rocket launcher instakills monsters too

only unsure about giants

[royal lynx]

Interesting

Giants I think do a detection for a certain damage number and then kill themselves

Because of stuff like Easter eggs now

Which also insta kill everything

[errant basin]

rockets 1shot giants but only with splash damage, they must not have collision or something because rockets pass through them

[high yew]

oh yeah i remember that happening

[empty crown]

Anyone else has huge issues when scanning the Toy Hammer? 🤔

(The Scan Node being everywhere but where the Toy Hammer is)

[high yew]

toy hammer is overall broken

every time i see it it spawns somewhere inaccessible

[empty crown]

Hmmmm

I guess I'll deactivate it for now then

What are the Crystal Ray and Maggie? 🤔

[royal lynx]

Uncompleted enemies

[empty crown]

Oh, I see :3

Hope the Ray is finished soon :3

[royal lynx]

I'll get to it after the port 😭 just lemme finish my exams

[empty crown]

Take your time :>

[manic wind]

I feel ya

Exams are killing me rn

[iron dove]

Why does typing "rock" on the terminal cause Moons to disappear?

[halcyon zinc]

If you're using LLL, it's using the tag rocky for sorting, last I heard.

[royal lynx]

i like how the go-to is blame LT

[halcyon zinc]

I think they just use the first channel they were already on.

Sometimes people just talk in the LGU thread in general.

(Plus there's the rocket launcher)

[iron dove]

I am indeed using LLL, but if I input "rock" and it is recognized as "rocky", why would Moons become empty and only display the company.

[iron dove]

Thank you for your answer. I really hope to be compatible with the Rocket Launcher because I don't have enough firepower to enjoy the game. (；′⌒`)

[honest solar]

you can download terminalconflictfix to fix it

[iron dove]

Okay, thank you. I'll give it a try!

[halcyon zinc]

It could be trying to only show rocky moons. And if you don't have any, it would be empty.

[iron dove]

What command should I input to restore it?

[halcyon zinc]

Well, you have filter command, maybe type something like filter none ?

This assuming that's what is happening with moons visualization.

[restive zephyr]

can't teach an old bird new tricks (dying)

[iron dove]

Useful, I've solved it. Thank you

[broken thicket]

@royal lynx are you still porting this

[royal lynx]

yes

but im waiting for 2 reasons, LLL is still fairly buggy and needs to root out a few more bugs before im fully comfortable with porting this.
and it's exam season

[glad yew]

I've noticed even though the Crystal Ray is set to a default spawn weight of 0 it still has a chance to spawn lol

[latent flare]

I have had it spawn with 0 chance too

[open vine]

i dont know what causing this but when I buy utility belt it turns into hacking tool

Profile code : 018f3cf1-c4ac-3a85-2bb2-a8b262f9c557

[sturdy skiff]

I've been having that problem too
When buying one item something else arrives

Like a pinger instead of a utility belt
Or a rocket launcher instead of LGU's wheelbarrow

Or LGU's helmet instead of some other item

I think there might be some sort of soft conflict between items that add new purchase options

[glad yew]

Use SmartItemSaving

it'll fix the issue

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SylviBlossom/SmartItemSaving/ it's an issue with current LLL

[open vine]

i have that already

[glad yew]

it'll be fixed whenever 1.2.3 releases

Hmmmmm

Are you using a mod like HexiBetterShotgun and not HexiBetterShotgunFixed?

[open vine]

dont have that

[sturdy skiff]

I'll install that though
Thanks a bunch!!

[open vine]

ok disabling SpawnableItems fixed it

[young tree]

this happened to me too, we just disabled the hacking tool and it solved it lmao

[maiden silo]

Batby would like to know your location...

[willow abyss]

i have no idea why that happens lmao, the config file is probably the buggiest part of the mod

[royal lynx]

Yeah I'll definitely redo that, i think it's fairly buggy and I can pretty easily remake it (I think)

[glad yew]

Haha it was pretty funny seeing one spawn inside of Starlancer's Warehouse XD

[glad yew]

Well I wanna guess it will be, I know Batby stated it originally probably wouldn't be but then after Batby changed plans to make 1.2.3 a lower priority and is working on it kind of on the side now so I imagine when it does release it'll have it. Don't quote me on it though

[willow abyss]

the jank mainly comes from lethallib because i did not write lethallib in a way that easily allows you to switch content after game init

because i did not intend to have config files at all originally lol

[royal lynx]

yea, im not too big a fan of config files but everyday i get asked to make a different config file lol

when i first released my mod i got asked to make a config so that my mod wouldn't register an enemy

the mod only had an enemy

[royal nimbus]

Judging by the number of configs you had I thought the opposite

[astral axle]

Just got this error when leaving the Company Building

Stack trace:
Terminal.SetItemSales () (at <255c0877f9414c3aa6f1fe5079ac13f3>:IL_00066)
StartOfRound.PassTimeToNextDay (System.Int32 connectedPlayersOnServer) (at <255c0877f9414c3aa6f1fe5079ac13f3>:IL_000d4)
DMD<>?-59157174.Trampoline<StartOfRound::PassTimeToNextDay>?-2047236220 (StartOfRound , System.Int32 ) (at <56645b16ea0a483f8f916e538e5f2336>:IL_00020)
LethalThings.MonoBehaviours.FatalitiesSign.StartOfRound_PassTimeToNextDay (On.StartOfRound+orig_PassTimeToNextDay orig, StartOfRound self, System.Int32 connectedPlayersOnServer) (at O:/github/LethalThings/LethalThings/MonoBehaviours/FatalitiesSign.cs:34)
DMD<>?-59157174.Hook<StartOfRound::PassTimeToNextDay>?-698832644 (StartOfRound , System.Int32 ) (at <f6455c5e0ef143fcb88972391437da80>:IL_0000a)
StartOfRound+<EndOfGame>d__262.MoveNext () (at <255c0877f9414c3aa6f1fe5079ac13f3>:IL_003a2)
LobbyControl.Patches.NetworkPatcher+<ReopenSteamLobby>d__6.MoveNext () (at ./src/Patches/NetworkPatcher.cs:167)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_00026)```
Seems to be some sort of problem with the fatalities sign counter?

Caused the game to not progress

[royal lynx]

Might be smthn on lobby controls end

It flagged there first

[astral axle]

Yea idk which way round it goes

[royal lynx]

You go from the bottom up iirc, anyway I doubt this was caused by LT

[ripe sand]

nope, lobby control probably has a prefix patch on it, but it wouldn't be the cause mostlikely

[royal lynx]

Something else would've borked it then

The LT code doesn't look like it would have a reason to break

      private static void StartOfRound_PassTimeToNextDay(On.StartOfRound.orig_PassTimeToNextDay orig, StartOfRound self, int connectedPlayersOnServer)
        {
            orig(self, connectedPlayersOnServer);
            if (!wasJustUpdated)
            {
                DaysSinceLastFatality++;
            }
            wasJustUpdated = false;
        }

[thorn hinge]

I don't know if anyone else has mentioned or found this issue before, but ever since the rocket launcher was fixed to actually save the ammo count, I can no longer buy it through the terminal

No errors but this is all i get

[royal lynx]

I think that's an LLL problem

Also idk if the ammo problem was fixed

[thorn hinge]

the ammo problem seems fixed to me

[short gale]

Using terminal conflict fix seemed to resolve this for me

[errant kernel]

My modpack uses conflict fix and it still doesn't work for me. Does the config for LT allow for disabling certain items?
(Not at my pc rn, so I thought I'd ask)

[full magnet]

iirc it should to my knowledge, both for store items and scrap
Been awhile since I've played around with LT so unsure of how it is in v50

[errant kernel]

I'll take a look when I get home. When buying a rocket launcher, it delivers a flare gun. So I'm thinking of disabling the flare gun until I find a fix for that 🤷‍♂️

[honest solar]

do you have betteritemsaving?

[errant kernel]

I don't. Is that what causes it to deliver a flare gun instead?

[honest solar]

no thats not the cause, but a fix

[errant kernel]

Gotcha. I'll try it then. Appreciate it :)

[mortal iris]

link?

[errant kernel]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SylviBlossom/SmartItemSaving/
Maybe?

[errant kernel]

Turns out I do have this mod ^
But it still happens. I'm just going to disable the flare gun since we don't use it

[clear radish]

Still cant buy the rocket launcher,
any one know if the developer is gonna update the mod again soon?

[royal nimbus]

TerminalConflict fix resolves that if I remember correctly?

[clear radish]

oh, I'm gonna see if that fixes it

it worked

[short gale]

does anyone know if the rocket launcher ammo saves yet

[sturdy skiff]

This is very important

[unkempt silo]

amazing

[ripe sand]

this was lifechanging

[royal lynx]

What hexcode should I be using for black

[willow abyss]

the black one

[royal lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/hanamaru-kindergarten-anime-hiiragi-blue-eyes-blue-hair-gif-17172184

[willow abyss]

https://share.evaisa.dev/vfOfYjIFK.png

[ripe sand]

like the element?

[royal lynx]

No like arrogant

[plush jay]

i think argon is arrogant too

it doesn't like to mix with the other elements

its too noble

[empty crown]

Anyone already reported this?

[16:36:37.5929999] [Error  : Unity Log] ArgumentOutOfRangeException: 'minValue' cannot be greater than maxValue.
Parameter name: minValue
Stack trace:
System.Random.Next (System.Int32 minValue, System.Int32 maxValue) (at <787acc3c9a4c471ba7d971300105af24>:IL_001D)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::PlotOutEnemiesForNextHour>(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::BeginEnemySpawning>(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMD<RoundManager::Update>(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Trampoline<RoundManager::Update>?661272676(RoundManager)
LethalThings.Patches.Debug.RoundManager_Update (On.RoundManager+orig_Update orig, RoundManager self) (at O:/github/LethalThings/LethalThings/Patches/Debug.cs:121)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<RoundManager::Update>?-1378363636(RoundManager)

[halcyon zinc]

That seems like too many days before deadline.
At least that's the error I get for having alot of days.

[acoustic pewter]

Stack trace:
Diversity.Misc.DiversityAIManager.CurrentLevel () (at <c0ec22b760df4465ab24705f1008447a>:IL_002F)
Diversity.Misc.DiversityAIManager.SelectBatchOfEnemy () (at <c0ec22b760df4465ab24705f1008447a>:IL_00CD)
Diversity.Misc.DiversityAIManager.SpawnRandomEnemy () (at <c0ec22b760df4465ab24705f1008447a>:IL_0001)
Diversity.Misc.DiversityAIManagerRMPatch.AdvanceHourAndSpawnNewBatchOfEnemies (RoundManager __instance) (at <c0ec22b760df4465ab24705f1008447a>:IL_005F)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::AdvanceHourAndSpawnNewBatchOfEnemies(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) RoundManager.DMDRoundManager::Update(RoundManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.TrampolineRoundManager::Update?1910250168(RoundManager)
LethalThings.Patches.Debug.RoundManager_Update (On.RoundManager+orig_Update orig, RoundManager self) (at O:/github/LethalThings/LethalThings/Patches/Debug.cs:121)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookRoundManager::Update?-1074200992(RoundManager)
[Error : Unity Log] IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.

ouchie owie my console

is this caused by an incompatibility between diversity and lethal things?

full log file if its any help (just me trying to figure out what breaks what and what works)

[tepid parrot]

@willow abyss This has probably been asked before but because I am curious. What were Crystal Ray, Maggie, and Red Pill supposed to become? What did you want them to do? How were they supposed to be encountered? Did Maggie exist before Masked?

[small grove]

Red Pill's a basegame enemy though, no?

isn't it a zeeker's test enemy that's just a nexbot of obunga or smth?

that's what i heard a long time ago

[royal lynx]

Yes

[willow abyss]

Maggie was based off the mask for prototyping that's all

[long grotto]

hey

this being updated?

nevermind

actually imma switch up my question

does this mod still have a rocket launcher

[undone granite]

iirc ray was meant to be a pet and maggie a zombie

redpills just a test enemy thats literally just obunga nextbot

from basegame

[long grotto]

Obunga nextbox is from ControlCompany right?

[undone granite]

no

[night venture]

its from the base game

that cc lets you control

[minor nebula]

Gotta say, realizing that the cookie fumo was voiced by Antlers was quite the jumpscare.

Some context, hi! I'm the person formerly known as Ukkojen. Slaire sent me.

[glad yew]

Lmao at some point I would still like to play with Antlers sometime XD

[royal lynx]

hi hello!

welcome here :p

[restive zephyr]

oh hey i know you

[royal lynx]

omg is that the chief of the media

[minor nebula]

Great to meet y'all (in slakri's case, again)

[restive zephyr]

it is! i am the Media Chief

is that the xuxiaolan??

[royal lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/she-knows-me-so-well-cosmo-fairly-odd-baby-fairly-odd-parents-that-girl-knows-me-so-well-gif-23883434

[royal lynx]

so what do you know about the media chief? any dirt?

[minor nebula]

Uh... they're slightly worse than me at Ultrakill, and they don't actually play Lethal Company

[royal lynx]

wow

shit ultra kill player

gotcha

[restive zephyr]

hey

[minor nebula]

Skill issue

[cunning summit]

have u played the rolling giant one, if so is it good? i know its a popular horror entity but it just doesnt seem to fit well with lethal upon first glance imo

[manic wind]

not bad not amazing, needs more animations imo

sound design is good

[small grove]

It's perfect for what it is honestly

the sound design is great yeah

I don't think it needs any anims cuz the source material it's based on also has it not move at all

[cunning summit]

yea the dev gets away with that feature since the real thing just rolls lol

[small grove]

it's good that it's highly configurable, it's just a bit meh that it doesn't have a true behavior to it that makes it unique

I suppose "randomlyMoveWhileLooking" is unique to it, i don't know if any entities have that behavior

[manic wind]

When I say animations I dont means organic ones but a little sway would make it look more dynamic

[small grove]

maybe, yeah

[manic wind]

like it leans forward when moving and bounces back when stopping

[small grove]

it does turn and have rolling physics

[small grove]

maybe

[manic wind]

kinda like in the OG series

it should be subtle