Lethal Things

[tepid parrot]

I imagine that when items are removed in the config they are not loaded into the game, or are they just not visable?

[willow abyss]

Yeah to avoid weird jank when network sychronizing configs

Completely removing items after already loading causes issues

[analog dock]

I doesn't do it with things from other mods that are disabled in the shop tho

[willow abyss]

This is a lethal lib thing also, not a lethal things thing

[analog dock]

This okay to run with LobbyControl? Or does that also prevent corruption of items

[willow abyss]

Anyway bed time

[tepid parrot]

Night night

[tepid parrot]

Lobby Control no longer provides this functionallity

[glad yew]

Smart Item Saving works great with LobbyControl and MattyFixes just make sure for Smart Item Saving to disable these settings, also disable SaveItemRotation in OpenBodyCams as well if you use it

[tepid parrot]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/mattymatty/Matty_Fixes/

[glad yew]

I highly recommend using Matty_Fixes btw

[glad yew]

You'll still want Smart item Saving for the FixItemID stuff, as well as BackupOnLoad

[analog dock]

Thanks guys 😄

[glad yew]

Smart Item Saving prevented me from getting a corrupted save when AbandonedCompanyAssets had the bug with the abandoned flashlights 😅

[tepid parrot]

oh what was the bug?

I was also saved then hahaha

[analog dock]

Do I need LobbyControl if I get Matty's Fixes?

[glad yew]

#1205643578764693524 message

[glad yew]

Yes they're seperate mods

I would use LobbyControl Experimental btw, for proper compat with ReservedItemsCore

[analog dock]

just making sure. they have some of the same fixes is why I asked

[analog dock]

Thank you, I use that 😄

[tepid parrot]

Matty may have pushed these changes.

Yeah he did

It is in the live version now.

Using LobbyControl should work fine.

[glad yew]

Okay well originally it wasn't lol

[tepid parrot]

All good. 😛

@analog dock #1178456016254414878 message

[tepid parrot]

@willow abyss

found some errors.

[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
LethalThings.Patches.PowerOutletStun.GameNetworkManager_Start (On.GameNetworkManager+orig_Start orig, GameNetworkManager self) (at O:/github/LethalThings/LethalThings/Patches/PowerOutletStun.cs:30)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookGameNetworkManager::Start?-1995997408(GameNetworkManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.TrampolineGameNetworkManager::Start?-1000219854(GameNetworkManager)
LethalThings.MonoBehaviours.GremlinEnergy.GameNetworkManager_Start (On.GameNetworkManager+orig_Start orig, GameNetworkManager self) (at O:/github/LethalThings/LethalThings/MonoBehaviours/GremlinEnergy.cs:28)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookGameNetworkManager::Start?2143665364(GameNetworkManager)

[inland nexus]

ReservedItemSlot compat is only in Experimental for now.. as it's a big rewrite i want it tested a bit, but release has a manual compat with a config list of slots numbers to ignore

[spring gate]

the github for this mod is out of date I think, there's no reference to gnarpy in it. if you update the github I'd be willing to debug the error mentioned here and make a PR for it. would you be able to do that? @willow abyss

[willow abyss]

uhh dev branch should be up to date with the thunderstore version i think

https://share.evaisa.dev/Eu-J4y0RD.png

yeah

the github just does not contain any of the unity side stuff

[spring gate]

oh okay, thanks

that's fine

I got everything imported and building correctly with the main branch

just need to swap the files out with dev branch

[willow abyss]

that error isn't necessarily related to this mod tho

that error is thrown when an item is used on the charger that is missing some stuff

[spring gate]

yeah

[willow abyss]

actually no

[spring gate]

well wait a minute

[willow abyss]

not even charger

[spring gate]

isnt it run on start for gamenetworkmanager

[willow abyss]

this is just a monomod thing

[spring gate]

I played with the main branch files yesterday, it seemed to error when trying to check / modify a prefab with missing parameters

[willow abyss]

the stacktrace includes my stuff because i hook the function that had an error

[spring gate]

the top of the stack is your GameNetworkManager patch in PowerOutletStun

[willow abyss]

well i am just saying, if any mod causes an error anywhere in GameNetworkManager.Start all functions that hook that function will be in the stacktrace

[spring gate]

right that is also true

[willow abyss]

Plugin.logger.LogInfo($"Found {prefab.Prefab.name}");

this line errored

meaning prefab.Prefab is undefined, or Prefab.name

[spring gate]

yeah

[willow abyss]

Prefab.name being not defined wouldnt error

because it would still just tostring

[spring gate]

I think it can be fixed with prefab?.Prefab?.name

which will just output null if prefab.Prefab is missing or prefab itself is null

[willow abyss]

the issue seems to be that there is a networkprefab somewhere in self.GetComponent<NetworkManager>().NetworkConfig.Prefabs.m_Prefabs that doesn't actually have an attached gameobject

which means something somewhere is very wrong

lol

[spring gate]

generally speaking its a good idea to use that null accessor operator to avoid incidents where a mod loads a corrupted prefab

[willow abyss]

i recommend looking into what mod is causing it in the first place

[spring gate]

thats a good idea yeah

I think it would also be helpful to use those null accessors just so lethalthings doesnt break more things if another mod happens to be broken

[spring gate]

one of the files in the dev branch refers to a namespace LethalThings.DynamicBone which doesnt seem to exist in the file structure. is this available anywhere? @willow abyss

[willow abyss]

oh that's the dynamic bones unity asset, i didn't include it in the repo because i didn't want to redistribute the asset

[spring gate]

oh got it

[willow abyss]

i think i made modifications to it though

[tranquil ibex]

Any chance we'll ever get the boomba & or teleporter trap seperate?

[glad yew]

You probably should ping Eva so she's more likely to see this lol

[tranquil ibex]

☝️

[astral bay]

I dont use tp trap due to the spawn rate being uhh

[astral bay]

but whats stopping you from disabling everything else

[tranquil ibex]

Errors/compatibility with other mods

[astral bay]

what issues

[tranquil ibex]

😐

[glad yew]

Btw setting this to false will prevent compat issues

[astral bay]

im asking because I dont know what they are

I dont think ive had issues?

[analog dock]

discount alert has issues with only this, and the furniture doesn't seem to actually be disabled

[astral bay]

not sure tho

[tranquil ibex]

It's nothing major just scraping errors out of modpack

from what I can tell it's relatively fine just disabling the mod actually bumped my frames slightly

could be within marigin of error though so idk

[glad yew]

That's cus the scraps aren't there from what I've seen a lot of people have said the plushies are very unoptimized

So just disable the plushies you don't like that much

[tranquil ibex]

will try it again once I get done with other problems

[glad yew]

Lmao

[astral bay]

if you care about performance (it may be fixed now) but I noticed that emote mod lowers fps by a bit

[tranquil ibex]

I'm rocking an average 120 with 110 mods on custom moons

[glad yew]

Yeah it does

[tranquil ibex]

we will see, trying now

[astral bay]

probably due to the large amount of assets

[glad yew]

It started after the update that added sounds tbh

Probably just needs some optimization

[glad yew]

You can replace TME with BadAssCompany tbh if you want more performance

[tranquil ibex]

Performance is negligible

[glad yew]

You were just complaining about Lethal Things causing you lag not long ago wdym

[tranquil ibex]

????

[south cloak]

TME only affects performance while emoting no?

[glad yew]

Yeah

[south cloak]

Ok that's what i thought, doesnt really matter then

[small grove]

the mod's store items also lag the fuck out of the ship and company building for some reason

[small grove]

yeah people with lowerend PCs can't be at the ship with more than 15-20fps from my experience

i get like, frame drops from 80fps to 50-45fps

and I've got a pretty good pc

[spring gate]

@willow abyss I think the github dev branch is ahead of the build on thunderstore because I'm seeing some enemies appear in the config that I havent seen before + some errors related to unreleased features when I fixed the prefab things, but anyway here's what I changed to solve the errors:

GremlinEnergy.cs:

private static void GameNetworkManager_Start(On.GameNetworkManager.orig_Start orig, GameNetworkManager self)
{
    orig(self);

    List<NetworkPrefab> prefabs = self?.GetComponent<NetworkManager>()?.NetworkConfig?.Prefabs?.m_Prefabs;
    if (prefabs == null) return;

    foreach (var prefabContainer in prefabs)
    {
        GameObject prefab = prefabContainer?.Prefab;
        if (prefab?.GetComponent<BlobAI>()?.enemyType?.enemyName != "Blob") continue;

        blobPrefab = prefab;

        //Plugin.logger.LogMessage("Found blob prefab!");

        break;
    }
}

PowerOutletStun.cs

private static void GameNetworkManager_Start(On.GameNetworkManager.orig_Start orig, GameNetworkManager self)
{
    orig(self);

    List<NetworkPrefab> prefabs = self?.GetComponent<NetworkManager>()?.NetworkConfig?.Prefabs?.m_Prefabs;
    if (prefabs == null) return;

    foreach (var prefabContainer in prefabs)
    {
        GameObject prefab = prefabContainer?.Prefab;

        // Using this to search for bugged prefabs:
        /*
        if (prefab?.name == null)
        {
            Plugin.logger.LogWarning($"Found a potentially bugged prefab! Container [{prefabContainer}] | GameObject: [{prefab}]");
        }
        */

        if (prefab?.GetComponent<GrabbableObject>()?.itemProperties?.isConductiveMetal != true) continue;
        
        Plugin.logger.LogInfo($"Found conductive scrap [{prefab.name}]");
           
        var comp = prefab.AddComponent<LethalThings.PowerOutletStun>();
    }
}

and for what its worth, I wasnt able to catch any corrupted prefabs with that commented out warning log even in the modpack where the error was previously occurring. so I guess the error originated from before the loop? regardless, this does fix the issue

I'll also just test and make sure gremlin energy is actually working

[spring gate]

just tested the thunderstore release with the above changes applied (by compiling from the code reported by ILSpy) and everything is working correctly. GremlinEnergy was throwing an error if you died by drinking it though, which I solved with this last adjustment to GremlinEnergy.cs:

public IEnumerator undoAnimation()
{
    yield return new WaitForSeconds(3f);
    if (base.IsOwner)
    {
-        // damage player
-        playerHeldBy.DamagePlayer(50, hasDamageSFX: true, callRPC: true, CauseOfDeath.Unknown, 1);
-
        playerHeldBy.playerBodyAnimator.SetBool("useTZPItem", value: false);
        playerHeldBy.activatingItem = false;
+
+        // damage player
+        playerHeldBy.DamagePlayer(50, hasDamageSFX: true, callRPC: true, CauseOfDeath.Unknown, 1);
    }
}

@willow abyss

[lethal marten]

these look the exact same

[willow abyss]

order of execution

i guess

[spring gate]

yes order of execution for the last one

the first two do basically the same as before but use null access to avoid null reference

[willow abyss]

alright i pushed the patches, i hope i didn't forget to comment out any of the work in progress stuff

lol

[astral bay]

trol

[spring gate]

🙏 thank you

trying to make my modpack stable and less error prone but lethal things was too iconic to cut out

now I've only got morecompany and terminalplus to deal with

[astral bay]

boomba 🥶

[spring gate]

yeah I cant imagine not having the boomba around

or the rocket launcher

or the utility belt or remote radar or teleporter trap

one time on experimentation the only way forward was through a door that had a teleporter trap and it teleported me into an area surrounded by bunker spider webs lmao

it took me way too many tries to crouch jump through the door frame to get around it

[turbid fox]

woah... an update..

what new in this update?

[south cloak]

Did you fix other issues like the toy hammers not disappearing after dying or the dartboard and rug always in the store and in the wrong category?

[turbid fox]

Nice good shit

[cloud juniper]

Apparently the latest update has broke the remote radar??
Thats what my friend is saying, i'll get on in a bit and test and give a log if thats the case

[cloud juniper]

Can confirm, the radar just doesnt update your position, its locked at the ship

No errors i could see relating to it

The pack i used at the time:
018e67bb-26b2-8bfe-9aa1-0c54ed84c417

[glad yew]

@willow abyss ^^

[ashen nimbus]

Yep :C for me too, the radar does not update the location after leaving the ship

[willow abyss]

uhh i guess that was one of the work in progress things i forgot about lol

[restive zephyr]

:c3

[royal lynx]

weird error when i, not the host, started the ship towards rend, i wasnt using a utility belt nor was anyone like it says in the error(i think thats what its saying)

[high yew]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-crying-cry-crying-about-it-cries-about-it-gif-25233249

[cloud juniper]

This would make a great reaction bubble gif

[high yew]

we were running away from a bracken and my friend said to just use the tp

the tp in question

[storm saffron]

I mean... as long as you stay on the mine till you tp...

Might even kill the bracken with it

[dusty heart]

i use the jetpack to kill the bracken

[eternal halo]

make it where fumos can spawn on the roombas

[coarse pine]

god is coming

[whole pecan]

Luke 3:11 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)

<11> And he answered them, "He who has two coats, let him share with him who has none; and he who has food, let him do likewise."

BibleBot v9.2-beta by Kerygma Digital

[coarse pine]

he is merciful today

I think

[restive zephyr]

GOD IS HERE

[turbid fox]

im sorry for the ping but what mod that give you a brick to throw?

[muted remnant]

No worries, the mod that has a brick as scrap is called "ImmersiveScraps":
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Justice69/ImmersiveScraps/

And the mod that enables you to throw any item is called "ThrowEverything":
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Spantle/ThrowEverything/

[turbid fox]

thanks!!

[verbal pollen]

Unfortunate that MusicalInstruments is broken :(

[marsh zealot]

The items when I charge the lobby change continuously

[astral axle]

Just so it's logged here, LethalThings doesn't seem to be working in v50 as of now

[manic wind]

now im sad since lethal things isnt gonna be updated and will prob break

[willow shoal]

Wait is V50 out?

[astral axle]

The beta is

[iron solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-still-time-mr-grooberson-paul-rudd-ghostbusters-afterlife-we-have-enough-time-gif-22500292

[willow shoal]

Is it public ?

[iron solstice]

beta is public yes

[willow shoal]

How can i play it?

[tender python]

i hope lethalthings gets updated so i can still throw glizzies around 🥺

[manic wind]

I hope its just broken cause ll is broken and not cause the mods itself is

[marsh zealot]

@willow abyss

[primal dagger]

i have tried not to spoil v50 for myself too much until it actually releases, but i do know that (or i'm pretty sure at least) (SPOILERS FOR V50 AHEAD!!!!!!!!!!)

||forest giants can now be burnt by lightning/explosions and die, which porbably means that you can now kill forest giants with a single rocket launcher rocket. that feels a bit overpowered tbh||

so this gives rocket launchers a HUGE buff and idk if it's for better or for worse

[steady topaz]

The rocket launcher was designed to be ridiculous rather than balanced, at least i intended it to be so

[dusty heart]

||forest giants WILL BURN TO THE GROUND!!!||

[manic wind]

Tbh we always die trying to use it lol

Maybe my group is just bad

[restive zephyr]

rocket jumping !!

[manic wind]

yaknow with regen thats actually valuable

[primal dagger]

fair

[willow abyss]

was whatever update this is about released already? because i don't want to update for a beta since it'd be hard to support both beta and main with the same mod

[royal lynx]

nah, dont worry about it for a couple weeks, betas take a while

plus LL is borked rn with v50 beta anyway, someone said they'll fix it later

[glad yew]

Someone? Someone?

That someone was @visual prawn

LOL

[royal lynx]

Potato patata

[visual prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-man-you-can-rest-now-sad-at-peace-tony-stark-gif-17658087

the changes are pretty minimal tbh

[restive zephyr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ang30ZjRS1I

[glad yew]

So I take it this means you already got LethalThings working for v50? Can we expect the update for LethalLib and LT to be out tomorrow? 🥺 👉 👈

[analog dock]

LethalThings items showing on sale (in DiscountAlerts) when they're disabled is definitely a LethalThings bug, because they also show up on sale with the GeneralImprovements monitors

[marsh zealot]

The item which I buy on the shop when I log in the lobby change every time

[scenic rapids]

Not sure if this is a known issue but the flaregun can sometimes become pretty much inaccessible if placed inside the cupboard at certain positions. It kind of dips into the shelf and prevents you from picking it up.

[willow abyss]

Yeah it was reported once but none of us was able to reproduce it when testing :/

[manic wind]

rip peak mod 🙏

[honest solar]

which one

[manic wind]

Lethal things

isnt it not gonna be updated

as eba isnt interested in LC modding anymore

[honest solar]

oh no

[manic wind]

Im sad

im gonna miss the boomba and teleport mine

[dusty heart]

rocket launcher ):

[manic wind]

utility belt

[honest solar]

maybe someone will be approved to continue the mod

[dusty heart]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHFxcTh0YnU5aGtqYmw1NXc0NTdsbWY0ejJnMm81emdrYmRtYTQxaiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/NCcbb5n17VoEzfCTSP/giphy.gif

[manic wind]

I wanna see if after full v50 comes out I could commission someone to update it

ive been looking to spend some money lol

[stoic ingot]

@manic wind where did eba announce that?

[manic wind]

Ive heard it from iambatby

[astral bay]

its also just apperent in the thread theye dont really update the mod and arnt as active

nothing wrong with that tho its a hobby if you dont wanna mod a game anymore thats perfectly alrighjt

[manic wind]

Thats all fine and dandy

[glad yew]

According to Batby, LT has a lot of code that is breaking stuff in V50 for all we know the mod might need a whole rewrite for V50.

[manic wind]

oh dam

[glad yew]

It's an old mod that's barely maintained stuff like this is to be expected unfortunately

[manic wind]

: (

[astral bay]

LT boomba kinda fits in the enemy mod I wanna do

[glad yew]

I had to remove it from my V49 pack cus it started conflicting with something and would cause high networking spikes and kill my streams

Yeah I miss Boomba

[astral bay]

yea i have a enemy mod planned to have more simple enemies

more small enemies

[manic wind]

didnt like the scrap but liked the enemy, trap and equipment

[astral bay]

that arnt meant as much to be scary and more so a hazard

because that has not been done much yet

[glad yew]

I loved the scraps

Arson, Cookie, The Glizzy, and Gnarpy are all peak

[astral bay]

this is what im talking about https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1225191232817594428

I just need a coder lol because I can only model

[manic wind]

Yeah my friend hasnt gotten back to me yet

he did mention he wanted to wait till v50 for doing mods tho

[glad yew]

The TP traps with the recent 2 updates for LT stopped working on custom moons anyways unfortunately, and they're also super buggy

The amount of times I had someone get stuck in a ceiling or wall

XD

[manic wind]

I guess ill have to use this guy https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/74oshua/RoombaMines/

[astral bay]

its not really the same

[manic wind]

def not

closest option

boombas are way more aggressive tho

[glad yew]

Are the assets for the Boomba part of the MIT license?

[astral bay]

id guess not

would have to ask the modler

[glad yew]

I think some things are, like some of the scraps since @upper bridge Was able to make Maxwell and Cookie as scrap eaters I just dunno what is and what isn't lol

[astral bay]

1 of these 2 made it

[glad yew]

Yeah

[astral bay]

Bobilka might have but I checked there page and saw like rocket launcher but no boomba

[glad yew]

Well if Antlers did it you can contact her pretty easily

[astral bay]

true

@astral hull trol

did you make the boomba model

or was that somebody else

[glad yew]

No that is Antlers

[astral bay]

?

[glad yew]

Oh nvm

My bad

My brain had a derp

XD

[astral bay]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fight-the-evil-twins-mr-fresh-gif-12768434404560375036

[glad yew]

I saw the "Or was that somebody else?" after you @ted her lmfao but my brain skipped you asking if she made Boomba model

[glad yew]

You know what's funny about this?

My cats actually do shit like this

LOL

The amount of times one steals the bowl from the other

[manic wind]

thats why I have 3 bowls for my cats lol

[glad yew]

XD

[manic wind]

they also refuse to drink out of a bowl

the only like mugs

[glad yew]

lol

Maybe I should try that, maybe it's easier for them to see the water

[manic wind]

Kitty

hes a good boi

[astral bay]

Hyena is also in the discord so time to bother more people I guess
@strange ermine by any chance did you make the boomba model?

[glad yew]

I wonder if Antlers would be okay with Cookie Fumo being made a seperate scrap

I miss Cookie

[astral hull]

@steady topaz made boomba

I thinky

Might have also been hyena

[astral bay]

I didnt see it on there page so I assumed it was not them

[astral hull]

Probably bobilkga

True…

I just know I didn’t make it

[astral bay]

well you made cookie so whats your answer on this

[astral hull]

Yeah that’s fine as long as you credit it

I should really remake the model at this point

[glad yew]

@upper bridge can you do it? ;o

[glad yew]

If you do you should upload it yourself tbh

:3

[astral hull]

I don’t mod

[glad yew]

Hehe

I wanna see the new model though

[astral hull]

We’ll see

[glad yew]

I think Zehs would be the perfect person to upload the scrap, since they already made Cookie a scrap eater tbh

[astral bay]

what bet

[astral hull]

I lost privileges to change my name for two months

[glad yew]

Oof

[astral hull]

So Robin has had full control over it

[strange ermine]

I made the rug

[astral hull]

Hello hyena

You were foretold only in legend (Eva mentioning you)

[astral bay]

rug!

[glad yew]

Do we know who made the other scraps?

[astral bay]

so I guess bobilka made the boomba model

[glad yew]

I think you said you did the Glizzy too right?

[astral bay]

but doesnt have it on there page

[astral hull]

I made the fart board, darts, teleporter trap, and cookie

[astral hull]

I think Eva made the glizzy

[glad yew]

Ooh

[manic wind]

I almost forgot this being really the only furniture mod

[astral hull]

I probably made other stuff I just forgor lol

[glad yew]

Looks like you'd be able to port the Teleporter Trap so long as you credit Antlers

[astral bay]

maybe not me but somebody could

I cant code just model

[astral hull]

It’s been a while since I’ve modeled for the mod

[astral bay]

uhhard

[astral hull]

I made the creature that’s still sitting in eba’s beta branch

[astral bay]

the silly

[glad yew]

Are we ever gonna get this? 🥺

It's so cute

[astral hull]

If someone adopts the mod and finishes the enemy AI

Friend AI

For now it’s kind of just abandonware

[astral bay]

same with that like

whatever the fucking

[astral hull]

@willow abyss did you have any idea for legal guardians

[astral bay]

I dont know how to describe it

it was some big machine

[astral hull]

Maggie

Maggie is finished though

I’m not sure why she isn’t out

[astral bay]

👀

[glad yew]

Probably just due to eba losing interest in modding I would guess 😦

[astral bay]

it would be nice if they could hand off the project to somebody who is

[glad yew]

Ye

[astral hull]

We wanted to push a whole “friends and foes” update

[willow abyss]

maggie is not the machine

[astral hull]

Creature doofus just made eva so frustrated she just lost all interest

[willow abyss]

they mean the uhh

deliver robot

[glad yew]

Awwwwww~

[astral hull]

Oh!

Ruckus

[willow abyss]

yeah, that one has no ai or anything yet

it only has a model

[astral hull]

And a thousand names

[willow abyss]

so true

[astral hull]

Hi eba!!!

[willow abyss]

acktually it was the robot and the knife that made me lose interest

(not really i just burnt myself out i think)

[astral hull]

Thank you for reminding me to slap slaire today I forgot

[willow abyss]

also i think friend was finished

maybe?

[astral hull]

Anyway did you have ideas on who would adopt the mod

[willow abyss]

idk

[astral hull]

Sconey or Batby or Max

Or potatoe if you really wanted

[royal lynx]

thats quite the selection

[glad yew]

Lmao pls no

[manic wind]

maybe there should be a mod adoption agency for abandoned and open source mods lol

[willow abyss]

who whar

[royal lynx]

i would help port if need be but currently super busy with my mod, plus 90% of the code in LT i dont really understand/find unnecessary so i might break something

[willow abyss]

if someone wants to setup github actions for lethal things i'm fine with letting people push updates

[royal lynx]

a lot of the networking thats done is something I dont see the reason for being there

[willow abyss]

lethallib already has that

[astral hull]

Eba’s terrible commenting practices:

[glad yew]

I'd say @visual prawn @merry summit @unkempt silo or @upper bridge

[royal lynx]

half the reason i didnt bother trying to fix anything is the commit names 😭

[astral hull]

I have been drilling into her better practices but it just rolls off her brain

Tooo smooth

[upper bridge]

Hahahaha

[unkempt silo]

I'm too busy spreading MonoMod propaganda hehe :3

[willow abyss]

See my problem is that I only bother with commit messages when it is a co-operative project

[glad yew]

x3

[willow abyss]

noita arena has the most indepth commit messages ever

[royal lynx]

thats fair tbh, i dont mind slowly porting things over to LLL/make it work if i actually understood whats going on with some of the code though

[merry summit]

lmao I need to fix my own mod first cx, but I do like this mod

[royal lynx]

i think there was like a whole config for networking

[willow abyss]

If someone can uhh

[royal lynx]

i didnt really understand much of the reason it was there

this part

[glad yew]

I'd say Batby, Sconeys, or Zehs for sure are all solid choices to adopt it

[willow abyss]

bully lordfirespeed into setting up github release actions

[glad yew]

@glass wing

[royal lynx]

i think hes on vacation rn

[astral hull]

True but the only comments in noita domekeeper are from the UI section you asked me to make

[willow abyss]

oh i wasn't talking about in-code comments

[astral hull]

Commit messages and comments are related enough for me to make a bad segue

[willow abyss]

Oh another problem with lethalthings is that the unity project is FUCKED

and not in the repo

because it includes every single one of the game assets

[glad yew]

Yay Unity, @royal lynx having to redo all their scripts yesterday cus Unity corrupted them

[willow abyss]

(from like original release lethal company)

[royal lynx]

that happens to me often, apparently nomnom made a migration script so ill have to look into that when v50 comes out officially

but ur version might just be too old tbh

[astral hull]

Eva is fossil

[royal lynx]

the enemies can probably be easily ported tbh, im just worried about the scrap and shop items

those might just have to be redone almost from scratch from what i've seen happening

[glad yew]

The scraps work in V50 though, it's other code in LT that seems to break enemy and hazard spawns

I just dunno what

Batby would know

[royal lynx]

ehhh its weird to explain, but the enemies are majorly fine

[glad yew]

I see

[manic wind]

idk why but Id think hardest would be utility belt and dart board

[glad yew]

Utility belt at this point is sort of a deprecated feature though

[manic wind]

?

[glad yew]

We have mods like Hotbarplus and ReservedItemSlots

[manic wind]

true

[glad yew]

It's not as necessary as it used to be

[willow abyss]

i don't personally agree

as i would never use one of those mods

since they feel like cheating

[glad yew]

Fair, fair

[willow abyss]

(imo)

the whole point of the utility belt was to be a more gameplay integrated way of doing those things

[royal lynx]

i've always use utility belts, they seemed like a more fitting option for me

[manic wind]

doesnt reserved slot have an option to make the slots purchasable

[glad yew]

I do know Utility Belt rn is one of the buggier features

[glad yew]

It does yeah

[willow abyss]

utility belt was always very prone to breaking when other mods mess with the inventory

[manic wind]

so AC

lol

[willow abyss]

AC?

idk what that is

[glad yew]

Advanced Company.

[manic wind]

Advanced comp

[willow abyss]

oh yeah but advanced comp broke like a bunch of other stuff in my mods in the past

lmao

[astral bay]

AC is gone now

[manic wind]

Eh, never really had it break stuff

[willow abyss]

it used to break some terminal stuff

idk

[manic wind]

Oh yeah terminal mods

those broke a lot

[royal lynx]

honestly the only bugs i've encountered where when the github release and thunderstore release didnt match 💀

[willow abyss]

lmao

i think thats still the case

[glad yew]

The time you crashed when pulling the lever and the Utility belt threw an error despite being disabled

XD

[willow abyss]

i never pushed the thunderstore release to github main and then kept updating dev branch

so dev is ahead of thunderstore and main is behind

[royal lynx]

thats simply because the thunderstore wasnt up to date afaik lol

[royal lynx]

yeah dev and main branches are a bit of a mess

[glad yew]

it was the current build on TS

but yeah probs

[willow abyss]

in all honesty

[royal lynx]

when im done with projects, if no one's picked this up and you dont mind sending me the assets i dont mind doing an overhaul from mostly scratch

[willow abyss]

i have no idea what changes are on the dev branch compared to thunderstore

like no clue whatsoever

lmao

[glad yew]

Assuming @visual prawn or @upper bridge don't offer to take up the project first

[ember umbra]

buh, that's why I don't do manual update

[royal lynx]

batby's gonna wake up to 5 pings from this

[manic wind]

I assume batby is quite busy lol

[ember umbra]

only auto update

[glad yew]

Yeah Batby is

They're working on maintaining both LLL and LethalLib now

[willow abyss]

preferably i'd do the same thing as lethallib, where we set up github actions and i just give a bunch of people permissions

[royal lynx]

they're not maintaining LL

[willow abyss]

that'd require fixing the unity project and stuff first

[royal lynx]

just up until v50

no point to

[manic wind]

yeah im saying I dout hell be picking it up anytime soon

[glad yew]

Yeah they're fixing the problems it has with V50

[manic wind]

im guess ll stuff will be moved to lll?

[royal lynx]

already has afaik, we're just waiting on v50

[glad yew]

I know the next update for LL is gonna fix the issues with the power level code on V50

[manic wind]

I thought that was fixed

[glad yew]

No

Batby fixed the main issues but discovered the power level code can still cause problems

it's why for example

Scopophobia breaks enemy and hazard spawns on V50 right now

But Scopophobia still needs updated

To support the new LOS code

[manic wind]

oh, I thought it was the other mod problem and not ll's

[glad yew]

Might be a mix of both

[willow abyss]

it sounds like hell to have a mod work on two versions of the game if there is major differences, function signature changes would make the normal mmhooks basically impossible (talking lethallib)

[royal lynx]

sometimes starting from scratch is easier :p

[glad yew]

Scopophobia doesn't throw errors though so makes it difficult to know for sure

[manic wind]

didnt scopophobia already have issues before v50?

[royal lynx]

yeah it's pretty annoying, for enemy ai it didnt do much but im sure it did for other things

[glad yew]

The main issue with it right now

Is the code for only 1 shy guy not working

It spawns 2-3 pretty regularly for me

But there's supposed to only be 1

Lol

[manic wind]

i have seen a whole bunch spawn

ususally one inside and one outside

[glad yew]

Yeah

[royal lynx]

thats just the dev not setting the unity project right

nothing to do with LL

[glad yew]

But I've had a case where there were 2 inside and 1 outside before

[manic wind]

didnt know it was not supposed to do that

[glad yew]

Yeah

It would help if the dev open sourced it tbh

[royal lynx]

welll not in this scenario but yes, open source is best

[glad yew]

Btw if you can tell the dev in the thread how to get the new LOS code working on both V50 and V49

Idk if it's harder to suggest it

Since he doesn't have it on github

Lol

[royal lynx]

i swear to god next beta ill just record a guide on how to do it

[glad yew]

😂

I mean hopefully Zeekerss doesn't rewrite the LOS code again

☠️

[royal lynx]

i mean, it was a good chance

change*

im all for this change

[glad yew]

It was

[royal lynx]

opens up 100x more enemy possibilities

[manic wind]

enemy that uninstalls the game

[glad yew]

The Forest Giant ai is a lot better in V50, which is why I'm so surprised FairGiants updated

[manic wind]

didnt really notice a difference, although they do usually get ||killed by old birds|| lol

[glad yew]

They walk away from the door of the ship like instantly in V50 wdym?

They don't just stand there

[manic wind]

Oh, I did see that like once

but havent seen too many giants in v50

just in general

most I saw was when ||adam had the spawn rates of art||

[high yew]

yeah same, esp on ||adamance where the geometry only helps them track you down and cut corners, them camping your ship door doesn't help either||

but with giant fair ai they kinda feel a bit dumb, but honestly would prefer that any day over whatever it is in vanilla

[sturdy skiff]

Apologies if this was already addressed before ||(and the mod not being in active development ig)||

But has anyone encountered the bug where LT store items appear on sale but have their full prices applied on purchase?
Did anyone find a fix for that or do I just have to deal with it? 😛

[scenic rapids]

Found another bug wherein the rocket launcher's ammo isn't maintained between closing and re-opening a save, it empties out.

[weary remnant]

Does this mod work with v50's spike traps?

I heard somewhere that the teleporter traps mess with the spike trap code

[glad yew]

Lethal Things doesn't work with V50 period.

[weary remnant]

Awww, sad

Maxwell, my beloved

[weary remnant]

Will it be updated once v50 officially comes out?

[glad yew]

This could change, @royal lynx might be taking on the project but it needs a whole rewrite

[glad yew]

Atm no.

[weary remnant]

Ooooh, that's great news!

[restive zephyr]

oh no xu isn;t playing d&d anymore? :(

[royal lynx]

it just wasnt fun when the DM kept hitting me with the media chief encounter

[restive zephyr]

damb

[royal lynx]

sure way of eliminating the entire party

[restive zephyr]

i'm glad i don't have to deal with the media chief

[glad yew]

Well you and Sconey's both showed the most interest

lol

But Sconeys said they're focusing on their own mods rn

[royal lynx]

i feel like you misread my message

[glad yew]

Probably

[royal lynx]

slayer is talking about DND as in dungeons and dragons

[glad yew]

Oh I see I see now

My b my b

[weary remnant]

I removed lethal things but I'm still getting no enemies

Just nothing but this in the console

[glad yew]

You have another mod messing with stuff

[weary remnant]

Any idea which?

[glad yew]

Idk

[weary remnant]

Been trying to figure it out for days

I have LL but it's been updated to support v50, right?

[glad yew]

Yes

If you're using Locker or Scopophobia

disable those

Well Locker should be fine it just doesn't work

Scopophobia breaks enemy and hazard spawns though

[weary remnant]

Oh, I am using locker

018ec681-ce34-c22f-066b-935a4a01c1e0

I'll disable them

[manic wind]

locker is broken rn

wip update

[weary remnant]

Disabled it now

[glad yew]

Yeah Locker doesn't break spawns though

it just doesn't work at all

XD

[weary remnant]

Oh lol

I'm trying to figure out what in my pack is breaking spawns

[manic wind]

yeah

its locker

[glad yew]

Probably Scopophobia if you have it

[weary remnant]

I do not

[manic wind]

itd def an ll mod

[glad yew]

I mean idk what enemy mods you're using

You should really check the chart tbh

[manic wind]

wasnt siren head broken

also peepers

[weary remnant]

Oh, I got both hecc

[glad yew]

Siren Head and GiantSpecimens got updated.

[manic wind]

oh good

[glad yew]

But Peepers yes

[weary remnant]

I'm gonna miss those little guys

[manic wind]

didnt they add the second giant?

or is it still wip

[glad yew]

No

It's still wip

[weary remnant]

It's very close to releasing

The second giant

[manic wind]

I guess that page was update early "Mod that adds a variety of giant enemies, part of the forest keeper family, Currently adds 2 brand new enemies."

[alpine wraith]

Peepers will be what is breaking it yeah

[manic wind]

also I think haunted harpist is broken

[weary remnant]

I thought that got updated like yesterday

[glad yew]

Yeah harpist works with it rn but the new enemy is buggy

[manic wind]

guess I was wrong

[glad yew]

Haunted Harpist doesn't feel very vanilla friendly anyways

[manic wind]

Yeah I dont use it

[alpine wraith]

is it because of the harp

[glad yew]

More the ghost model itself tbh

lol

[alpine wraith]

I guess

[weary remnant]

Kind of a bit silly

But I like it

[manic wind]

like it more than the fiend

tbh

Although I HATE the fiend

[glad yew]

The Fiend is such a mid mod tbh

[alpine wraith]

It's true it's silly and the model of the ghost itself is a little out of vanilla art style but I also think it's a little silly to be sayin that with some of the other mods being used lol

[manic wind]

Design is ok, but the animations and mechanics are ass

also the jumpscare is cheasy

[upper bridge]

I might be able to help. I finished updating all of my mods to be compatible with v50 and v49

I've also noticed some issues with LethalThings that should be fixed

[glad yew]

Oooh

Yeah I think you just need the assets from @willow abyss right?

[upper bridge]

I already decompiled LethalThings before for the Maxwell and Cookie Fumo assets.

Maybe, but I could also work with the stuff from the asset bundle.

Some things that need to be fixed are:

• Maxwell saving the dance/play music state.
• Scrap items audio being heard from the entire map

There's more stuff, but that's all I can think of at the moment. I'm eepy >w<

[alpine wraith]

ok I understand not liking it before but the new ghost makes the harp ghost look... kinda normal, it's absurdly over the top for the default configs lol

[willow abyss]

audio being heard from the entire map i have never ran into myself

there is some other issues i know of tho, notably the configs don't sync super well

also i was planning to update the mod for v50 when it releases, i thought the changes weren't that large?

certainly not to the point of requiring a full rewrite

[royal lynx]

If I did a port I was planning on going through all the code not a rewrite, a lot of it just seems unnecessary or harmful

[royal lynx]

Blame the people that made me release an early v50 compatible version, I forgot to remove soke stuff I wrote beforehand lol

[royal lynx]

Only changes I needed to do for my enemies and scrap was... just make a new enemy function for line of sight since the current one got replaced with a different, items didn't get changed afaik

[glad yew]

The main issue for sure is whatever is causing enemies and hazards to break in V50 with LT

Batby never really went into detail on what all is causing that

Just narrowed it down to LT has code that's doing it

[willow abyss]

i mean probably is just a function signature that has changed for the enemy ai classes

tho that should show up in the debug console

[glad yew]

Yeah you'll have to check, I'd love to know what caused the networking problems in my v49 pack too

[royal lynx]

Yeah when u boot it up it should tell you you're missing a function, didn't check tho with LT

[willow abyss]

i have not touched v50 whatsoever so i have no clue whats even wrong

[royal lynx]

I'm assuming the roomba probably uses the LoS code anyway

[glad yew]

Yeah the Boomba likely does so it'll need the new LoS code

[willow abyss]

honestly just trying to compile with the v50 dlls is probably enough to point out the issues

[glad yew]

Yeah you should be able to opt into the current V50 beta and find out what's wrong

[willow abyss]

unless there is missing properties on the assets themselves, which would require updating the unity project and i ain't doing that

lmao

[glad yew]

I know some of the networking code was changed too, cus GhostCodes for example on V50 caused me networking spikes I didn't get on V49

[glad yew]

Yeah I guess you'll have to find out, luckily if that is the case @upper bridge has offered to help you take on the project

XD

[royal lynx]

Gl Zehs

[glad yew]

Zehs is a good dev tbh

I believe in them

They've made a couple of mods that I find to be essential

[willow abyss]

lmao

when i try to compile against v50

the only error i am getting is for a unfinished enemy

[glad yew]

Odd 😆 so I guess it's probably just come code in V50 that conflicts

Or maybe it has to do with the unfinished enemy

[willow abyss]

Severity Code Description Project File Line Suppression State Details
Error CS0103 The name 'HasLineOfSightToPosition' does not exist in the current context LethalThings O:\github\LethalThings\LethalThings\MonoBehaviours\FishFriend.cs 98 Active

its the line of sight thing ig

[glad yew]

Yeah

It was changed to CheckLineOfSightForPosition

@royal lynx managed to take the new code and make it work with both V50 and V49

For their giant

[royal lynx]

She is a better programmer than me in all ways you can think of, she'll have her own solutions for replacing line of sight lol, I did it the lazymans way and copy pasted it to all my aid code

[royal lynx]

Me when thunderstore release is way behind github release

[willow abyss]

👍

[willow abyss]

okay it compiled fine after that, tho i have no idea how to know if stuff is still broken

[glad yew]

That's probably why it breaks on V50 tbh

[royal lynx]

It should make things run fine- probably, I'm just worried about general lag with all the networking and stuff being done in the mood (I say as a complete newbie who doesn't know any networking)

[royal lynx]

Nah I was mostly kidding, it should be pretty up to date from what I've seen barring unreleased things

[willow abyss]

the mod really doesn't do that much networking stuff

nothing large anyhow

[glad yew]

I will say

[willow abyss]

the main things that are sent back and forth are booleans which is tiny

[glad yew]

DiFFoZ mentioned he got hudmanager spikes from LethalThings

[royal lynx]

Yeah I saw that, wasn't sure what it really meant

[willow abyss]

the mod doesn't do any more networking than lethalcompany does by itself

[glad yew]

Yeah not sure

[royal lynx]

Oh there's some actual bugs with items being "registered" but not showing in the shop when you disable them in the config

They weirdly pop up like they're still there with discounts etc

[glad yew]

Yeah

I've seen that

[willow abyss]

that's been a thing

thats more a lethallib issue

[royal lynx]

Ah icic, never happened with me though so idk tbh

[willow abyss]

the removing of items at runtime is very janky

me neither because i never disable anything in the config

if i could go back in time i wouldn't have a config file at all honestly

because it has only brought me more issues

[glad yew]

I will say I'd love to see the Toy Hammer get registered as scrap instead of an item, so it's not counted as a tool when you get a team wipe

XD

[willow abyss]

there is a config option for that

wait is that like github only?

[glad yew]

I'll have to test LT on V50 after you upload the new version, if all it needs is a recompile that's honestly really good

It might be yeah

[willow abyss]

i just tested it, boomba spawns and works fine

so i assume everything else does too

[glad yew]

I've left it as default where it's set to be scrap

but the toy hammer stays on the ship after everyone dies

XD

[willow abyss]

https://share.evaisa.dev/3A_eNWz0r.png

[glad yew]

So if you find a toy hammer and put it on the ship, then die it should count as scrap that's lost

But it stays

But that might just be cus it can also be a shop item

[willow abyss]

uhh

[glad yew]

So that might be more of a LethalLib issue than a LT issue

[willow abyss]

theres two different assets

afaik

for the shop and the scrap one

i don't remember honestly

[glad yew]

Hmmmmm

[royal lynx]

Wait why tho (if you even remmeber)

I use the same asset for my scrap and item registration

[willow abyss]

so i don't have to modify it through code

adding the ping and stuff

[royal lynx]

Ahh that stuff

[glad yew]

That's weird that the scrap item isn't lost after dying then

[royal lynx]

Yeah idc how they get scanned 😂 but that's fair

[glad yew]

I wonder if there's a trigger for it that fails

[willow abyss]

i probably forgot to switch a boolean or something

[glad yew]

Probably

[royal lynx]

I went through the code a while ago on the main branch, is that the up to date one?

[glad yew]

So now knowing LT barely touches networking

Xu

[glad yew]

Inb4 it was GhostCodes and DarkMist killing shit

[willow abyss]

main branch is far behind dev branch or whatever i called it

[glad yew]

Aight I'mma test this

[willow abyss]

well "barely" i wouldn't say, but it certainly doesn't do insane amounts of it compared to vanilla

i used vanilla as my standard for pretty much everything

all my custom items and stuff do some kind of networking at the very least

[glad yew]

Yeah then in theory it's networking stuff shouldn't conflict then, unless the main branch on TS is using outdated vanilla code somehow

[royal lynx]

Ugh, I couldn't find the registration code on dev branch so thought otherwise

[willow abyss]

dev branch has a rewritten registration thingy

https://github.com/EvaisaDev/LethalThings/blob/dev/LethalThings/Content.cs

it uses the contentloader class i wrote for lethallib a while ago

[royal lynx]

Ahhh it's a lethallib class? No wonder

I was looking for some sort of list or class you made similarly to main branch

[willow abyss]

well this has an array of custom content

[glad yew]

Yeah new build fixes enemies not spawning

had a Masked and a Redwood spawn in

XD

Not seen any mines or turrets yet though

[willow abyss]

i have seen mines

[glad yew]

Okay good ^^

I guess my rng on this Adamance spawn is just lucky XD

Yeah everything is spawning in normally

[glad yew]

I think you should be good to push the new build on TS

Btw @royal lynx wtf did Starlancer do?

XD

They're all diving into the ground

[royal lynx]

I told you he fucked up birds

[glad yew]

Lmfaooooo

[glad yew]

@shadow wing bls fix

Ahaha

[royal lynx]

Hes sleeping sadly

[glad yew]

Yeah even the new enemies are spawning in properly, and I had Turrets and Mines on Dine too

Let me check if it still works on V49 as well cus if it's backwards compat we're good, which it should be since you didn't have to change anything only recompile it

@willow abyss New build is working perfectly on both v49 and v50, though the tp traps still don't spawn on custom moons for some reason

So you should be able to publish the new build to Thunderstore 🙂

and state it as you recompiled it to fix support for V50 most likely

[willow abyss]

that's weird

they're defined with Levels.LevelTypes.All

which should include modded i think

if i remember lethallib correctly

[glad yew]

@unkempt silo Did you manage to not allow tp traps to spawn when you did the patch for LLL moons?

XD

[willow abyss]

did they touch the map hazard part at all

[unkempt silo]

I've not had time to spend on that stuff yet lol, just got my MonoMod patching stuff merged tho on lethal wiki! But I can do that soon(tm)

[glad yew]

Oki, well I know @visual prawn is working on pushing another update for LethalLib soon to fix the power level stuff with V50, so maybe Batby can look into fixing that too lol

[willow abyss]

honestly i an barely understand my old code anymore

[royal lynx]

LLL update is coming out this weekend, depending on how things are it might just be better to port than maintaining rn lol

[glad yew]

I'm glad recompiling LT for V50 fixed the issues ^^

[willow abyss]

var alwaysValid = mapObject.levels.HasFlag(Levels.LevelTypes.All) || (mapObject.spawnLevelOverrides != null && mapObject.spawnLevelOverrides.Any(item => item.ToLowerInvariant() == name.ToLowerInvariant()));
var isModded = mapObject.levels.HasFlag(Levels.LevelTypes.Modded) && !Enum.IsDefined(typeof(Levels.LevelTypes), name);

if (isModded)alwaysValid = true;

if (Enum.IsDefined(typeof(Levels.LevelTypes), name) || alwaysValid)
{
}

[glad yew]

Assuming eba feels like porting LT to LLL XD

[willow abyss]

this seems to be the spawn check for map objects

lmao

[royal lynx]

It shouldn't be hard porting LL to LLL but yes, upto the maintainers

[visual prawn]

@willow abyss its very very low priority but if you chuck me an invite to lethal things i can take a look at a couple of it's things in the future 👁️

[willow abyss]

lethalthings doesn't have a good git repo that just works

but seemingly recompiling was enough to make everything work on v50

[unkempt silo]

yeah I touched a part of the code where this stuff is relevant, but I don't really understand the logic behind this logic lol

[visual prawn]

suprised you had to recompile tbh

[glad yew]

It was what made it work, otherwise it broke enemy and hazard spawns

[willow abyss]

one of the unfinished enemies used a line of sight function that nolonger existed*

[visual prawn]

ahhhh

was gonna say

very little in v50 changed fortunately

[royal lynx]

That wouldn't fix whatever other issues people were having, so I can't wait to see complaints later lol

[willow abyss]

but i assume the map hazards not working on modded maps was already a thing pre-v50

sounds more likely to be a lethallib issue

[glad yew]

The big fixes can come when it moves to LLL

[royal lynx]

The issues you always complained about were mod specific from what I could tell

So :shrug

[glad yew]

Yeah

[royal lynx]

Mod specific as in LT not LL

[glad yew]

the client crashes when pulling the lever

[royal lynx]

Yeah not LL

[willow abyss]

But anyhow i don't mind it being ported over at some point if people want to maintain the mod in the future

[glad yew]

That happened a lot for some reason

[willow abyss]

need to clean up the repo and stuff then

[royal lynx]

I can give it a go but batby prolly wants to do it

[visual prawn]

no promises but i do tend to wander around projects

[willow abyss]

I would really like to have proper git actions but that's not my expertise sadly

[glad yew]

You still got ImmersiveScraps to port after the new LLL update drops at the end of this week

c;

[visual prawn]

trueee, was neat to push a ll update

[royal lynx]

Just gotta bully lordfire again

[willow abyss]

its nice to be able to just add maintainers without extra steps

it worked pretty well for LL seemingly

[royal lynx]

Meh it's low priority, I got more important mods to port first like my own lol, plus the weekend is when things get hectic for me

[glad yew]

Fair I'm happy to be able to play on my custom moons after the LLL update drops

Rosie and Starlancer plan to update asap after the update pushes

[visual prawn]

i should just build in porting to LLL in LL lol

[royal lynx]

What even are the changes I'd need to do lmao

[visual prawn]

if you wanna do it via programming, remove some lines and change the function you use

if you wanna do it in editor, use my scriptableobjects and put your mod in an assetbundle with .lethalbundle as the extension

thats pretty much it

[royal lynx]

So people can register items etc without code now?

[visual prawn]

people can register everything without code

[royal lynx]

I'm curious to see how that works tbh, I'll have to do a bit of both if I wanna juggle with stuff like spawnweights and config tho no?

[visual prawn]

if you want to yeah

[willow abyss]

i like how you pretty much did the things i planned to do for lethallib before i burnt out

[visual prawn]

if you still want me to load your bundle automatically you can request a callback for when i process it and register it

[visual prawn]

i've been burnt out a couple times 😭

[willow abyss]

the only reason i care about lethallib being maintained is legacy mods tbh, it has done its job

[visual prawn]

i kinda have to

[royal lynx]

That's nice

[visual prawn]

i do b exhusted

[royal lynx]

Ye lethallib did really well

[glad yew]

Yeah you've been working your ass off on that new LLL update, I'm excited to see all the changes and improvements

and to finally get rid of LLLFixed from my pack

XD

[willow abyss]

I would really like for lethalthings to be adopted by someone in the future because i still feel fucking shitty about all the unused assets that people made for it

[glad yew]

Yeah a few people have shown interest in it

[royal lynx]

If batby don't want it, idm using the assets you currently have, making the models etc was always the hard part for me anyway

[glad yew]

Zehs also took interest in it

[visual prawn]

i dont like want the project if someone else wants it

but i could see myself dabbling on it yknow

[glad yew]

I don't see why you all couldn't work on it lol

[willow abyss]

there is atleast 11 finished models

[visual prawn]

forsure

[willow abyss]

for unfinished lethalthings content

[glad yew]

Since 3 people all have interest, I see no reason why the 3 of you can't all adopt and work on it

[royal lynx]

Only reason I didnt give a 100% interest is because I've seen some of the code used in LT and it confuses me lol

[visual prawn]

feel free to ask me about it

[willow abyss]

i mean that was kind of my intention, thats why i said i would like the lethallib github workflow for lethalthings

[glad yew]

Ye

[willow abyss]

https://share.evaisa.dev/PLrc2F3h3.png

one day the boi will be real 😭

[royal lynx]

oh i love making outside enemies

:3

[willow abyss]

this is not an enemy

https://share.evaisa.dev/vYYfqXsB5.png

[royal lynx]

my eyes must be deceiving me

[visual prawn]

not with that attitude

oh lmaoo

[royal lynx]

ah a delivery bot

[visual prawn]

i was literally talkign about that idea today

in zeekers patreon chat

[willow abyss]

this idea has been picked up and dropped a bunch of times because every time i touched it i got burnt out within a day

[royal lynx]

doesnt seem to be a complicated one either

[willow abyss]

https://share.evaisa.dev/ZoUzz1u_H.png

smallest namelist

[royal lynx]

i assume you didnt get stuck with making anything, it just got repetitive/boring for you in a way?

https://github.com/EvaisaDev/LethalThings/blob/dev/LethalThings/NetworkConfig.cs @visual prawn this is mainly the one thing i dont understand, the network config section at the start

[willow abyss]

overengineering

[visual prawn]

people would prob just use csync nowadays

[willow abyss]

last thing i was trying to do was raycasted tracks or something

[royal lynx]

That was my best guess

[willow abyss]

i wanted it to be really bouncy and dynamic

[visual prawn]

I mean this without any disrespect but any wacky code you see in lethallib, lethalthings, lethalexpansion almost always comes down to it being shit because its the first attempt at doing that thing

[willow abyss]

even the model is somewhat overengineered

yeah

the networkconfig stems from when most mods did not have one of those

[royal lynx]

Imma disappear for a bit cuz it's eid rn but I'd definitely give a hand to porting and fixing some LT issues whenever you decide to fix the Unity project and whatnot

[willow abyss]

i wonder if you could get a cleaner project from just unpacking the bundle lol

[glad yew]

this being the compiled bundle btw

c;

[royal lynx]

Probably tbh, I like to think I have clean unity projects

[willow abyss]

the unity project i used for lethalthings is like 6GB

because it has all the game assets

that was the main problem

[willow abyss]

lmao

thats unfair

this is like every project isn't it

[visual prawn]

its a few 😭

[willow abyss]

i also still have that runtime inspector project

i forgot about that

i cannot remember where that was left off

[royal lynx]

Smh, for me just like 60mb for my asset bundle tho o only have 2 items and 2 enemies

[shadow wing]

What am I even looking at lmao

[royal lynx]

It's your stupid birds ice skating

[shadow wing]

Let 'em skate

[full magnet]

omgggg lmao

[upper bridge]

Have you seen this clip? @willow abyss Hehe :3

[willow abyss]

why is it so big

i am so confused

[upper bridge]

It's one of my scrap eaters >w<

He has a chance to become evil maxwell after eating your scrap

[astral hull]

Insym my beloved

[glad yew]

Btw @royal lynx you should pin the V50 build of LT for people who wanna use it until eba pushes the update to TS probably

[manic wind]

Idk if this would be something you wanna patch but if you try to buy teh locket launcher with AC installed you can only buy the Rocket boots

[royal lynx]

this sounds like something you should be taking up with AC, a mod thats still maintained afaik

[manic wind]

true, weird cause it used to work

prob another thing broken like the handheld terminal

[royal lynx]

Joke i had to get out -> ||What comes first, the compatibility or the copy?||

[astral axle]

The guy removed all support to the vanilla terminal months ago

[twin pumice]

Do you also add other characters too, my group got so confused lol

[upper bridge]

Yes, I have a lot of scrap eaters >w<

[royal lynx]

whered the redwood scrap eater 😔

[upper bridge]

My SellMyScrap mod has support for mod developers to fairly easily make their own scrap eaters as a separate mod. If you want to make one, I could help you since I don't have a tutorial yet.

With the way I made scrap eaters, It shouldn't be hard at all to make one.

[manic wind]

whats scrap eaters?

[royal lynx]

thats pretty interesting 🤔, though i doubt any would really use it considering the main sellmyscrap has most of the iconic ones people wanna see lol, woulda been a funny sight seeing the redwood but meh

[upper bridge]

@manic wind

[upper bridge]

It would be too big >w<

[royal lynx]

i think i have a kneeling animation owo (but fair LOL)

[upper bridge]

Just have a giant hand grab into the ship >w<

[royal lynx]

lmaoo the best part is that it would work just as well too 😆

[upper bridge]

Mhm

[royal lynx]

this definitely isnt him kneeling halfway through his death animation

also i just realised the scan node isnt following his body, whoops

[upper bridge]

I have a pretty bare bones scrap eater base class ScrapEaterBehaviour.cs you can extend off of the do anything.

[upper bridge]

Hehe

[royal lynx]

i dont think i've seen someone else's code in this game that i havent been able to understand 90% of it lmao (mostly because theres just some keywords like protected virtual and rpc's etc), but it does look pretty interesting

It's less the mod itself and more so I just like seeing streamer's/people's reactions to it lol

every now and then i think to myself "alright, im gonna surf twitch and promote the great giants!" and then lurk in some vtubers chat for 6 hours

i saw wesley in mago's chat though and that gave me confidence to suggest the mod and that was pretty funny seeing my giant in action live 😆

[upper bridge]

Hehe

[upper bridge]

Are you saying you can't understand my code or you can?

[royal lynx]

oh i cant understand any bit of this lol

[upper bridge]

The only things other modders need to mostly worry about is List<GrabbableObject> targetScrap and IEnumerator StartAnimation()

targetScrap gets automatically assigned

And you do all your animating in IEnumerator StartAnimation()

[royal lynx]

yee that makes sense

just casually in the background

scrap eaters is such a nice concept though lol

eventually ill have to make something when im done with my giants for each one of em

[royal lynx]

@unkempt silo thicc enough for you btw? since u specifically asked last time

[unkempt silo]

nah not thicc enough :3c

[royal lynx]

damn, gotta redo the models and animations now 😔

[upper bridge]

:3

[unkempt silo]

ah btw @willow abyss you mentioned you were working on a LighterPatcher fork, right? Have you uploaded that to github or anything? I'd be interested in it :3

[weary remnant]

So is this mod is getting a v50 version?

[royal lynx]

check pins

[weary remnant]

Oooh, it does have one

Just it's not officially on thunderstore yet

I assume an official v50 version will be on the app eventually?

[royal lynx]

i assume so too

[glad yew]

I think eba is waiting to upload it til V50 fully drops

[weary remnant]

Is the official drop still a mystery?

No word from Zeekers yet?

[glad yew]

Considering it's been 4-5 days since the last Beta build I'm guessing he's probably working on fixing the current bugs and working towards pushing it public

[weary remnant]

Exciting

[willow abyss]

uhhh lemme look around

yeah nah it doesn't seem to be in working conditions

https://github.com/EvaisaDev/LighterPatcher

no idea what i was even doing with it, you're probably better off forking lighterpatcher yourself

[unkempt silo]

oh well, thanks anyways! :3

[vital forge]

CAKED UP

SHEEEEEEEE

[astral bay]

Nah it got no cake

Flat as hell

The true cake is what dotflare does

Gives things the whole bakery guaranteed

[royal lynx]

whta did dotflare make

other than the fiend iirc

[astral bay]

They did some animations for the fiend but they arnt ingame

They arnt as well known here compared to risk of rain 2

Every time they make a character model no matter what it is

[royal lynx]

icic

[astral bay]

It always backs the entire bakery

[royal lynx]

lol

sounds like they need to start making here

[astral bay]

It’s like there watermark / signature move

[astral bay]

They made the moonsneer model and iirc that’s like one of there first models as of recent to not have a cake

It might actually have one I’m not sure

[manic wind]

tbh I prefered when the mispealled it as moonseer

liked that name better

[astral bay]

Like for example if you look at there HQ employee model that shit is packing

They sorta just do it as a joke at this point because it’s expected I think

[royal lynx]

is there even a mod that uses that employee model?

[astral bay]

It is indeed funny

[astral bay]

No it was just made for fun