Lethal Things

[willow abyss]

I cant eatch vibeo tn

Rn

[astral hull]

I'm antelrs

[ocean scroll]

the fitnessgram pacer test

[idle ginkgo]

penny enjoyer squad

[willow abyss]

okay we can make it rocket jump but only once, and it takes 99% of your health + you take fall damage

so you still die

[ocean scroll]

UNLESS you also decide to add a super special original and very cool set of shoes called The Gunboats

[astral hull]

I just meant that people would try to rocket jump with it lol

[cunning steppe]

how much damage does the roclet launcher do?

[smoky kite]

yes

[cunning steppe]

[ocean scroll]

Giants

[cunning steppe]

I'm just wondering if that bitch is set to one shot a dog

Gonna have to find out the hard way

Had issues doing it in the past and never got to properly test after

Like it's a fuckin rocket that shit BETTER one shot that dog

[astral hull]

jittery fellow @willow abyss

[past crypt]

WOAH HE'S SO CUTE

WAT DAT FROM

NEED RN

[willow abyss]

lethal things development

[past crypt]

Gib now

[acoustic pewter]

Little fella spotted

[restive zephyr]

add rocket riding to the game please

[high yew]

this will be lethal things in 3024

[restive zephyr]

that was the reference yes

[iron chasm]

curse of AIINTERVALLAG!!!

happens to every enemy ever with high ping

[astral hull]

Antlervallag

@willow abyss consult noop on solution for jitterbug

[iron chasm]

the evil curse is that you cant fix it

ai interval lags for all enemies if you are cursed with high ping

maybe something its doing is generating lag on the ai interval calls though since thats what was happening to skull

[willow abyss]

just move to europe clearly

high ping fix

👍

[astral hull]

Hey at least we automatically check for interp problems

[willow abyss]

we should give the creature a warpdrive

(it occasionally just teleports itself with some insane overengineered warp effect)

black hole generator

[storm saffron]

Ngl I thought someone had activated the toy scrap for a sec...

Idk why it didn't occur to me that someone out there is the voice of said item before the vid

[acoustic pewter]

Was thinking telefrags but this is funny

Should be more lethal

[willow abyss]

when the things are lethal

[lethal marten]

the creaturee

[lethal marten]

no, the person is voiced by the item

[storm saffron]

I see. My one question is how tf cookie gets wifi in the abandoned factories?

[astral hull]

yeah it's crazy

cookie sounds just like me

[restive zephyr]

waow

[storm saffron]

What's it like to sound just like a very popular character from the Lethal Things toy scrap collection?

[ocean scroll]

Antlers sounds just like cookie you guys

They do a really good impression

[restive zephyr]

it's great thanks for asking :3

[lucid escarp]

https://cdn.aiden.gg/files/55vqvf80.mp4

context: we lost maxwell previously in the wall like 5 rounds ago and he appeared again after we reloaded the game

[lethal marten]

the trickster

[willow abyss]

at this point i've given up on fixing maxwell turning evil and dying on reload, i think the game's save system is just too scuffed

[lucid escarp]

wdym? zeekers is the best developer to ever touch the unity game engine

there are no flaws with the amazing save system 😍

[hazy raptor]

might as well think of it as a feature. maxwell went rogue because all of u left them 😂

[storm saffron]

Why are there no skeleton maxwell gifs? It's been in votv awhile now....

[lethal marten]

maybe you can try making it so maxwell can't be evil as long as they're in the ship?

[willow abyss]

https://share.evaisa.dev/97e-qgiS4.png

[astral hull]

fatty

[willow abyss]

that is.. so true

you could never get evil maxwell on the ship in the first place

[lethal marten]

a safer bet in case of bugs would be maxwell can't be evil as long as they're outside at all, because i've seen items sometimes not count as in the ship

[high yew]

that kills the present bomb interaction

extremely incorrect buzzer

[willow abyss]

oh true i guess presents can spawn dingus

[lethal marten]

if you want to die from present dingus then that's your problem

[astral hull]

idk it generates the funniest clips

[lethal marten]

i've never seen a clip of that happening

[high yew]

i have one

[lethal marten]

well then show it!

[astral hull]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lethalcompany/comments/18rsc0x/unwrapped_a_cat_and_it_fucking_exploded/

[high yew]

#1178456016254414878 message

[willow abyss]

i hate how discord embeds a fake video on reddit embeds

[high yew]

i love how you can (or could?) spam it so it blows up that many times

[willow abyss]

it used to do that

lol

we fixed that

[astral hull]

I bullied eba into fixing it

[lethal marten]

there are only two clips of this happening and 50% of them occurs inside the facility

[willow abyss]

tbh it is easy enough to fix without breaking that

when you load the game you are never landed on a planet

so i can just detect if the round has not started

[lethal marten]

what if you only interact with maxwell after landing

[willow abyss]

doesn't matter

[lethal marten]

wait no im stupid

[willow abyss]

the evil value is set as soon as maxwell spawns

[lethal marten]

anyways i think evil cat should be called maxwell and good cat be named dingus

not in game

[astral hull]

maxwell and dingus are used interchangably in the code

[willow abyss]

both of them are dingus in code

[lethal marten]

well people don't call spore lizards puffers

[high yew]

maybe we should all ask zeekeers for a better item saving system

[astral hull]

idk well good luck establishing a naming convention

[willow abyss]

eventually the item save data system is going to bite him

considering it can only store a single integer per items

[high yew]

yeah i love loading a new mod and getting a ship full of shotguns

[willow abyss]

at some point zeekerss will have to store more than one int

ah you mean the item shuffling

[high yew]

iii mean overall but yeah ig

the latter is on me anyways

[willow abyss]

zeekerss needs to just start loading items based on their internal ID

rather than a index

this is the same issue minecraft used to have

[astral hull]

zeekerss needs to better code tbh

[willow abyss]

until they switched to string ids

whenever you launched a save in a different version after an item got removed all the items would get shuffled

or some shit

i don't really remember

[lethal marten]

what if you added anOTHER voices of the void reference mannequin scrap or something

[willow abyss]

kerfus

(i don't want to do more AI shit)

[lethal marten]

ooohh kerfus could genuinely be pretty useful if it like recovered items or something because a majority of the time i don't want to get special items like radar boosters because if people die then it's likely that nobody's gonna go to get it back

[astral hull]

btw lmk when you want to test doofus dingus creacher fish thing

[storm saffron]

Shrimp that spawns invisible enemy to beat you up

[storm saffron]

Oh my god yes

[willow abyss]

i can't figure out why the doofus won't move

:(

[hazy raptor]

why the rocket launcher went empty on reopening the lobby 🤔
is it cuz of the shuffling too ?

[high yew]

tax

[hazy raptor]

[willow abyss]

https://share.evaisa.dev/8eXhORpXG.png

worst thing i have ever drawn

[lethal marten]

WHAT

[shrewd gull]

kinda cute though

[storm saffron]

Neco Arc-son

You got Arson Plush, Dirty Arson Plush and Arcson plush. The (de)evolution chain is complete.

[astral hull]

I am not modeling that

[lethal marten]

dirty arcson plush

very stupid idea, a very rare secret enemy which is basically just a ghost girl reskin into a dark silhouette that disappears when spotted for a moment but without being able to chase or affect gameplay at all. considering the amount of people that use this, i think it'd get a few spooks

[storm saffron]

lmao

[willow abyss]

stun grenade dealer

why is he so shiny lmao

[astral hull]

Dog is so biggums

[willow abyss]

well yeah he is not toy

[storm saffron]

Yooooooo

I love it

Even in solo I can see the usefulness. You take it with you to the door, then deposit items into it throughout the day. At the end you run back to the ship and pilot it back with your goods inside

[high yew]

I would pick up all the scrap and drive off the map

[willow abyss]

it uses AI to path find back to the ship

after being activated outside

it takes gasoline in order to work

Also it is radar trackable and gets assigned a random name

[storm saffron]

That's super useful but also gasoline? ok..

[willow abyss]

one gas tank will last like 3 trips back and forth

probably

will have to look into balancing

The idea is that you might have to rescue it outside

i like the idea of people getting attached to this thing and then having to leave it

slightly evil

[storm saffron]

Now I can send my scrap back to the ship and even if I die it'll already be onboard.

[willow abyss]

you lose it anyway because the game steals your scrap

lol

[storm saffron]

(since I'm technically cheating a LOT on my modpack, scrap doesn't despawn)

[willow abyss]

ah

lol

[storm saffron]

Solo is BS and I've made a "casual mode" modpack

Because I like progress

Utility belt + LGU back muscles my beloved, you were there for me when no one else was

[high yew]

so will the depositing work the same as cabinet does?

[willow abyss]

yeah

it is essentially a moving cabinet

has limited slots tho

[storm saffron]

Can it hold two handed items?

[willow abyss]

it can

[storm saffron]

heheheh.... I'm about to buy several wheelbarrows and break the game

Probably wont actually

[high yew]

can we blow it up as a last ditch effort to fight something off

[storm saffron]

But it would be funny

[willow abyss]

how dare y ou

[high yew]

[storm saffron]

Not unless it reacts to malware broadcaster somehow

[willow abyss]

you will not use gas guzzler as a weapon

[high yew]

that combo would be gnarly

[storm saffron]

But sad :(

Gas guzzler is your friend

[high yew]

btw do boombas have codes?

I don't think they do

[storm saffron]

I don't think so

[high yew]

no malware broadcasting for them...

[storm saffron]

Those things scare me

Should call it a doomba

[high yew]

there's a neat counter for boombas called running towards them

[storm saffron]

Oh gee that sounds very helpful thank you

[willow abyss]

the real counter is jumping over them because their AI is coded in a way where they have no object permanence

so if you are not in their FOV they forget about you

👍

[storm saffron]

oh lol

[high yew]

but I wasn't joking...

if you run at each other it blows up behind you

[storm saffron]

Cookie fumo never falls over

[astral hull]

From what I've read, people feel like the mod doesn't make the game any harder or easier.

[storm saffron]

I mean, I up the rocket launcher to 1000 because it doesn't feel fair at default price but the rest of the mod is really well balanced

If anything, almost a must for solo

[lethal marten]

the boomba log is dare i say, INACCURATE

calls roombas "ancient cleaning robots" despite sigurd making his logs in 1968, 34 years before roombas were invented

[tough frigate]

dude dont you know roombas were made by the egyptians

[lethal marten]

(assuming this is sigurd)

[lethal marten]

you mean the E Gyptians?

[tough frigate]

ermmmm

yes!

my mistake good fellow

[lethal marten]

actually no nevermind, this log isn't made by sigurd

calling roombas ancient cleaning robots though still has lots of implications

[storm saffron]

Doesn't the actual game take place in the 2500s?

Based on some intro screen I haven't seen in forever

[crisp bane]

yep, the very first screen you see the first time you open the terminal, iirc

[willow abyss]

it is not sigurd

ooh you figured that out already

lol

[steady topaz]

filthy fish

[restive zephyr]

lmao

[tacit mortar]

Oh i see (didn't know this page existed lol), anyone know what the pouchybelt or rocket launchers considered for better teleporters inclusion list?

[lethal marten]

ooooh. damn that's a long time between sigurd's things then

[storm saffron]

Ye. Boomba was allegedly noted by a crew after sigurd? Which implies that they didn't exist in sigurds time and new things keep appearing in the abandoned halls

The buildings are the real anomaly

[willow abyss]

[storm saffron]

I mean, Sigurd never warned us about the freakin masks so....

Or the nutcrackers

Ok no there is a bestiary entry on those

But not the masks

Nor are they mentioned in any journal entries

The buildings are freaking canonically changing!

[lethal marten]

maybe sigurd just didn't encounter them

honestly i'm a fan of the nutcracker entry being extremely ominous

[storm saffron]

Gremlin energy damage config? I kinda wanna bump it down to 20% on my end

[steady topaz]

Oh what's interesting

The girl has no journal entry, and she only haunts ones paranoid. Sigurd in his logs, as far as I've read, has proven determined and indomitable

So the reason she has no log might simply be that Sigurd was never afraid

[storm saffron]

Or... She can't be scanned cuz she only appears to the employee, invis to scanners. Rich probably saw her...

Sigurd breaks a little, doesn't he? He has nightmares about the company and is the only one at first to care about the noises behind the counter

[high yew]

You can see her on cams

[storm saffron]

True.. Idk why you can't scan her then...

Inconsistent game design Zeekers! Pick one!

The lore is ruined! /s

[fallen latch]

this is probably just an oversight lol

[iron chasm]

This is intentional seeing as she has custom animations that play when she’s on the camera…

[fallen latch]

she does??

weird

Idk if its intentional that everyone sees it though but its hard to truly know ig

[iron chasm]

She dances on the camera

[fallen latch]

Had no idea

[iron chasm]

Yeah lol

[fallen latch]

Thought she was just kinda hitting the 🧍‍♀️

[iron chasm]

Idk man she’s wacky and mostly exists cause zeeks is a phasmo fan iirc

She hits that too

She can spawn far enough from the ship that she hits the 🟡

You can just see her cause she’s got an unlit texture

[astral bay]

I’ve had the girl twice on experimentation

That Mf wants me

[lethal marten]

that's a bug i think, it's just the skipping animation while in place

[full magnet]

Damn in all my time I've never encounter a Ghost in Experimentation

Most I've had rare for the game is the occasional weird lines from Jeb

[coarse pine]

i put the eva plush in a firepit and i died instantly somehow

[steady topaz]

No she doesn't. That's her walk animation

Skipping around

Cause for some reason she uses it when idling on cameras

[willow abyss]

deserved tbh :tf:

[restive zephyr]

there's an eva plush?

[broken spruce]

She does technically have a corrupted log

I forget exactly what it is, but if you enter I think “the shade” into the terminal, you get a message that says “this file has been corrupted” or something of the sort

[willow abyss]

i assumed they mean arson

[restive zephyr]

o

[astral hull]

Argon…

https://fxtwitter.com/quintzeee/status/1750030355690594327

[willow abyss]

cookie has brain damage in this picture

[restive zephyr]

she looks so angy

[willow abyss]

whuhh

argon greg

[glad yew]

https://clips.twitch.tv/UninterestedSpunkyOcelotEleGiggle-tjWf8c48bWHyh8ut When you find your third Maxwell in the same stream and start vibing without realizing it. I don't even remember doing the meows along to the song XD

[lethal marten]

maxwell acquiration moment

[glad yew]

Right? lol

[past crypt]

Hahaha, that Maxwell vibe

[full magnet]

Loud reverb fart in the background

[glad yew]

XD yeah I love how Maxwell does that

[main thicket]

hey the hacking tool only asks me 6-8

[willow abyss]

https://share.evaisa.dev/_ZN1JWllE.png

[astral hull]

Greg

[willow abyss]

This argon iss hgolding a greg 🥚 on itss held

[restive zephyr]

on her held !!

[astral hull]

Hi eba’s

[willow abyss]

hiii

i eated alcohol

:)

[astral hull]

Wuh oh

[restive zephyr]

drunkwings?

[willow abyss]

was cold now warm :Thubsmup

👍

[restive zephyr]

eba

[willow abyss]

hi

[astral hull]

Chrimmas pfp but end of January? Jolly

[willow abyss]

wduold you prefer this

[astral hull]

Not really

[restive zephyr]

you write good commit messages

YES

[willow abyss]

wuh

[restive zephyr]

wawa

[astral hull]

Eba has ghosted me in dms

My ideas are too terrible

[restive zephyr]

same

[willow abyss]

you dmded?

[restive zephyr]

my vpice is too terrible

[willow abyss]

i ahavent been working on m,od for like week

too eepey and uninterested

[restive zephyr]

did you see i sent youa thing

[willow abyss]

hiiii

[restive zephyr]

ghelo eba

[scenic rapids]

I feel like I’m having a stroke whenever I read messsges in this thread

[idle ginkgo]

a stroke of good fortune

[storm saffron]

No, we are NOT giving cookie a gun

/j cookie is the ship captain and can have whatever they want

[willow abyss]

tbh i pitched "allowing cookie to be given gremlin energy which woud make her run around wildly, then run into the nearest wall like that one kid who was doing the mario kart star theme"

i don't think antlers ever gave that pitch any consideration

@astral hull i still want this btw

[astral hull]

I would have to remodel cookie fumo because it's just so terrible for rigging

[idle ginkgo]

new entity: occasionally cookie gets up and walks around, munches on the new scrap item bag of pennies

[restive zephyr]

:3

[acoustic pewter]

Throwing cookie fumo around and having it explode doesn't do enough damage

[storm saffron]

It should just kill all players

[ocean scroll]

Cookie should trigger facility meltdown tbh

[acoustic pewter]

I mean it didn't kill me when I was throwing it at my feet

[storm saffron]

Yes

Throwing cookie at apparatus should play a line like "oooo, shiny" and then unplug it.

It's full of pennies

Where the hell did "glizzy" come from? Do I wanna know? Why a random arse sausage..

[ripe sand]

the glizzy gobbler

[willow abyss]

i needed a reason to add jiggle physics to this game

[plucky lake]

Getting log spam with this mod for some reason

HUGE Log file as you can see

[willow abyss]

these logs are not caused by this mod as far as i can tell

the only entry for lethalthings in the stacktrace is part of a function which does nothing because it is for debug mode

[willow abyss]

https://share.evaisa.dev/TqQjzqbgp.png

new arson lore just dropped

[astral hull]

Buwah

[steady topaz]

arson fanart

[plucky lake]

Then why was it spammed non stop? Unless there's a way to disable it

I wonder if it may be due to savage company
Never was an issue until then but still, bizarre

Nothing was non-functional, besides bombardment lmao

[broken spruce]

Evil fucking jumpscare

[willow abyss]

no i mean the error is not caused by lethal things

lethal things shows up in the stack trace because it hooks the same function

[plucky lake]

Ooo

My apologies

[willow abyss]

any mod that hooks a function will show up in the error caused inside of said function

[plucky lake]

Ah I gotcha

[idle ginkgo]

How much damage does the rocket launcher do? 🤔

[willow abyss]

👍

(i have no idea)

but the damage is spread over its damage range, so the further you are from the center the less it does

[astral hull]

Isn’t it a copy-pasted landmine explosion?

[iron chasm]

I think both the rocket launcher and boomba just use the landmine one

Which is also why boombas are horrible at killing people

[daring berry]

No, landmines insta kill no matter where you’re standing

Evaisa says the damage spread so it can’t be a landmine copy

(Unless landmines DO have spread out damage in which case I am astounded because I have not once ONLY taken damage from friends stepping on mines

[astral bay]

I just bring a Boomba to a corner

Step on it

And run around the corner

It blows up and I take no damage

[daring berry]

True, but I think mines just dont kill around corners

[astral bay]

Yea

[daring berry]

Rocket launchers work differently

[plucky lake]

I just shoot them with a shotgun

I don't play around with explosives

[glad yew]

Are we ever gonna get the option to make it so Maxwell can't turn evil on the ship? XD

[smoky kite]

Are we ever gonna get the option to make it so Maxwell turns more evil on the ship? XD

[glad yew]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[restive zephyr]

maxwevill

[idle ginkgo]

maxhell

[daring berry]

Hi! do we think Utility Belt compatibility with stuff like Advanced Company will come at some point!!!?

[idle ginkgo]

they're both ways to get more inventory spots, so you can disable the perks that do it if you want to just use the utility belt and default inventory

otherwise you're going to end up carrying like 9 things at a time

[daring berry]

true! but, erm, I wanted to keep AC's inventory slots (just to be able to hold 6 at a time, at a high xp cost) AND have the utility belt to be able to hold 2 more (above the rest of the slots) but at the cost of like 20 pounds in weight

that way we can have someone be the "carrier" or something

[idle ginkgo]

it is unlikely that either lethal things or advanced company will make an accommodation for that

[storm saffron]

I like where your ambitions are, but it ain't gonna happen..

You can never have too many slots

[glad yew]

Does the maxwell song randomly get detected as copyright? Cus I've had it happen twice now where a portion of my stream gets muted cus of Maxwell's song XD

[idle ginkgo]

At the very start of a landing I went to gently request Maxwell stop dancing for a bit, so promptly got blown up and sent to the shadow realm of backrooms while the rest of the crew carried on. Bad to the bone.

[lethal marten]

woah

[daring berry]

what this!?

[steady topaz]

that is not a teaser or anything this is just the toimari plushie except its physics behave like a bag of milk

[cold holly]

Mfs deflated my toimari can't have shit in Vow

[willow abyss]

I have no clue, content id sucks.
The maxwell song is an edited version of move forward by kevin macleod

Kevin macleod music is heavily used on youtube so i haven't noticed copyright issues with it there

Plus this exact version of the song is from voices of the void which plenty of streamers play so idk

[glad yew]

Yeah apparently Twitch flags that song for some reason

[willow abyss]

that's annoying, iirc votv dev specifically made that version because the original maxwell song constantly got copyrighted lol

does twitch give any information about who the strike originates from? I am almost certain it does not get flagged on youtube

[glad yew]

It just mites a portion of the vod and says the name of the song if you go to appeal it, it doesn't count as a copyright strike

[willow abyss]

ah well either way, i find it weird that this gets muted considering it is 1. a edited version, and 2. the original song is Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

you can probably appeal it

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

i guess i need to add the copyright info to my own credits section though whoops lol

[lethal marten]

what's the max spawn amount of boombas? and what's their power count?

[full magnet]

Unsure of max spawn for Boombas, but they do have a power count of 1

[daring berry]

Power count is 1, and there’s no max spawn amount of any mobs except the bracken, jester, girl etc

Actually I think thats all 3

[lethal marten]

k

[full magnet]

iirc I think every enemy has a max cap of how many spawns, however you realistically don't see most get to their cap due to how the outdoor/indoor power cap works

Like there can be a max of 8 Eyeless Dogs at once, but you'll never see anything like that in the vanilla game cause both of these reasons:

• No area has an outdoor power cap of 16
• Other enemies can take up space, some of which are invincible so they can never free up the space for power for that trip

I had a run one time that had 4 Coils, and the worst part is there is some realm of possibly a 5th could show up

[astral hull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1091451376179105813/1138176636592869478/arseon.gif

Thanks slaire

[steady topaz]

transpaent outlin

[lethal marten]

why would this exist

[idle ginkgo]

from arsonist to arsonast

[restive zephyr]

hi

[restive zephyr]

arseon

[quasi blade]

has this mod broken recently? for 2 of my friends they can't see anything this mod has despite me still being able to see it and having the exact same modpack i do

[loud flame]

same

[quasi blade]

it might be broken for clients. nobody saw the scrap, roomba, new items, nothing

but it was all there for me

a API did recently update tho. maybe one this mod is depended on?

[loud flame]

You know what api updated

[river geode]

^ having the same problem

[loud flame]

So we can roll back an update

I’m checking while I rolled it back one

[quasi blade]

lethal lib seems to have broke it

[loud flame]

Why do we still use lethal lib

[quasi blade]

idk. im new to the modding scene

[loud flame]

Everyone roll back an update

It works

[river geode]

back on lethallib?

[hazy raptor]

rollback lethallib by one version

lethallib 0.13.2 should work i guess

[loud flame]

It did

[river geode]

how do you rollback?

im just using thunderstore so i dont know how to do it

[loud flame]

Delete and when you hit download again you can change the version when you download on r2 mod man

[astral hull]

@willow abyss you blew things up

[astral hull]

it's eba's own modding tools; they were never really meant to be public but so many people found them useful she decided to just upload it as a package

[loud flame]

No more narpy 😭

[loud flame]

Oh I see, didn’t mean anything by it just curious as to what it did since I see it as a dependent on so many mods

[cold holly]

It basically does all the heavy lifting of handling items/etc working together, and all the weird back end stuff involved with getting that stuff working in the first place (tl;dr it's an API)

[loud flame]

Makes sense

[quasi blade]

omg man

this one little update is causing us so much trouble. having issues just getting the roll back to work

[abstract pebble]

How to change version on rmodman?

[daring berry]

uninstall the version and then install the previous version (0.13.2)

[abstract pebble]

ok thanks a lot!

[tacit mortar]

(after previously taking it off to grab said apparatus and run) Lethal things utility belt throwing a fit over something whenever i specifically hovered over the apparatus and went away when i started to move the other way. The apparatus other than scanning could not be interacted with. Was unable to repeat it, however figured i'd put this here in case it wasn't an isolated event as the only mod i saw pop up was lethal things. (though in theory it could have been a few mods such as moreinteriors or the recent lethallib update. (and i'm aware a few mods dealing with the apparatus in particular are having some de-sync issues, though this was in a solo lobby)

[ripe sand]

its a known issue

we gotta wait for https://github.com/EvaisaDev/LethalLib/pull/57 to be merged

[white panther]

I have the mod enabled but i never saw anything new and new equipment bought never shows up

[frigid wolf]

This mod seems to be lethal, with things

[storm saffron]

Might be an issue with lethal lib latest version. Lotta people talking about that issue. Try installing the version prior to latest and see if it resolves.

I don't think I had any issues with it but might be multiplayer only?

[plucky lake]

Mostly affects multi-player
It does affect AC out the gate in SP

[full magnet]

LethalLib just updated like 10min ago so hopefully that fixes the issues going on

[willow abyss]

It should

[full magnet]

[coarse pine]

[abstract pebble]

Are the issue fixed?

[quasi blade]

how can i reliably kill eyeless dogs with the rocket launcher?

either it goes through them or i shoot at their feet and they don't die

[plucky lake]

I haven't tried this with the rocket launcher, but this with the shotgunfix mod :chefkiss:

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/AgentRev/ShootableMouthDogs/

I have absolutely no idea if this will help

[quasi blade]

probably not since it probably only changes stuff with the shotgun

[plucky lake]

But just in case, some weird way it does, I'd like to know

I wonder

You could try this also, again, complete shot in the dark

I don't know what the rocket launchers damage is classified as, but if it's a mine, you could try FairAI and enable mines to kill them

Again, complete shot in the dark, no testing

[quasi blade]

i did it once

[plucky lake]

I just know for sure their hitbox is generally kinda fucked

[quasi blade]

secret labs. i had height advantage against one shot down on it and it worked.

trying it at same height no dice

[mellow latch]

Idea for the mod:
I love the idea of a landmine just strapped onto a roomba, but it following players was a bit jarring.
I'd love if it had an option to move around like a real roomba, going in straight lines and then turning a bit when it hits a wall or something and then back to a straight line. Only blows up if the landmine on top is triggered like any other landmine

[quasi blade]

i honestly thought that's how it would work originally

since you know. that how a roomba works

[restive zephyr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76wzA2A2T1Q

[astral hull]

Enemy AI :(

[quasi blade]

https://tenor.com/view/understandable-have-nice-day-have-a-great-day-have-a-good-day-nice-gif-20850110

[mellow latch]

ahhh

my bad

[glad yew]

I still haven't had the bug where the shotgun doesn't kill a dog lol

I feel like it's a "fix" that just resolves a skill issue, unless it explicitly fixes shooting the dog in the mouth idk

[plucky lake]

My honest reaction to skill issue

No, but when you're next to the dog
Shooting it twice, nothing happens

It could be their shit hitbox

Combining that mod w/ Shotgun fix by Zaggy1024 iirc

Works every time one shot no shenanigans

I've never tried shooting in the mouth previously
Was using the side or back hips

I think the thumbnail is just a thumbnail

[patent basalt]

My usual go-to is letting them clear out the mine field

[abstract pebble]

Great mod!

[restive zephyr]

grod

[smoky kite]

Eba hard at work

[willow abyss]

this is more entertaining than actually working on the mod at the moment

[smoky kite]

https://tenor.com/ciH2GRhcI5Q.gif

oh I see

[willow abyss]

my brain has been repeating the audio from this all day

[lethal marten]

add cat ringtone as a rare arson plushie noise

[idle ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-cat-not-laughing-caption-gif-19739492

[restive zephyr]

this cat looks kinda like oc

patternally, at least

[idle ginkgo]

very cute cat(s)

I particularly like that the last frame of that animation is eyes closed as though Arson's going to take a nap now

[mellow latch]

Every time I see the name Arson I think of the bit from Xavier Renegade Angel where the main character leaves candles on and burns down his house killing his parents, so when the spirits of the parents tell him "Our Son killed us" he hears "Arson killed us" and he's just like "Pssh, uh, duh, I know that already."

[restive zephyr]

it is yoohoo killed us

[mellow latch]

YooHoo? What kind of name is that?!

[lethal marten]

a boomba slowly approaches and i can do nothing but watch in horror and slowly back away because i have no stamina

[restive zephyr]

ZAMNina

[storm saffron]

True... or you're in a tough spot

[solar sparrow]

make the cat plushie play it

[daring berry]

Is the toy hammer supposed to despawn between play throughs?

[mellow latch]

Me, between moons: Haha squeeze cookie plush okay
"I think JFK just did that"
Haha yeah I get that funny meme that is a solid funny :)

Throws, expecting the usual scream
||WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE PLUSHIE FUCKING EXPLODES???||

[storm saffron]

||incendiary plush hand grenade strat||

[balmy glacier]

CAN I EAT IT

[white panther]

Are there any mods that LT 'is not' compatible with?

[mellow latch]

Bug found: Discounts don't work on LethalThings items :(

[astral bay]

I’ve bought rocket launchers for huge discounts

Skill issue maybe

[mellow latch]

i do suffer from a Skillness :(

[plucky lake]

The real bug is the rocket launcher losing its ammo on loading a save

But that's old news

[full magnet]

ROCKET JUMP!

blows self up

[errant basin]

A couple days ago we got a 70% discount on utility belts but when trying to purchase they were still full price

[versed scarab]

Is it known that rocket launcher doesn't work with nutcracker?

[sand heath]

it work for me could be just the weird hitbox of the nutcracker

[zinc swift]

anybody got a bug where you cant pick up the toy hammer?
it plays the sound and a animation but it just stays on the ground

[acoustic pewter]

sounds like desync

[faint veldt]

LCVR 1.1.8 allegedly solved the fog issues when also using Lethal Things. I haven't tested it just yet, but I figure it's good for future searches to explicitly mention that here:
#thunderstore-releases message

[storm saffron]

I kinda had this ages ago- try aiming at the ground beneath it. It just clipped thru the nutcracker for me

Iirc

I just assumed the rocket launcher didn't trigger on enemy hitboxes

[keen prawn]

yes, it does

[zinc swift]

about the hacking device
how do I answer two digit values?

[errant basin]

yeah not sure why

i was the host so it shouldn't be desync??? maybe

[astral hull]

Nutcracker only takes damage when it’s eye is exposed

[keen prawn]

in the video it is

[cold holly]

Remove the 10s digit

[storm saffron]

The answer is whatever the last digit is. iirc the screen even shows mod(|[equation]|), which is math talk for "take the number, ignore any negatives and just give the last digit". I think. That's at least how it works

Math was never my strongest suit

I don't remember what mod actually stands for

[keen prawn]

modulo, give the remainder of the first number divided by the second number

[storm saffron]

...oh. That doesn't sound right

I must be misremembering

[cold holly]

No that's all correct

Mod 10 (assume base of the number system to mod by when none is provided) returns the value that remains after dividing X by the number

Tl;dr the bit you throw out for division is the mod

[storm saffron]

Oh

[versed scarab]

wasn't it exposed on clip?

[versed scarab]

I mean like it is exposed

[polar zenith]

i'm curious

is there a way to refill the rocket launcher?

[high yew]

nope

its meant to be thrown away after using

[iron solstice]

Note: The hacking tool seems to be stuck on a singular question. I just have to spam 5 until the door opens and the question doesn't change between inputting.

Will not input this as an issue in the event this is known, and is being worked on due to lethallib updating probably breaking it . ,.

[noble plume]

on that note: wth is the mod() supposed to tell me? I need a base..
Unless that's in other questions that I've never seen because I'm also stuck on the same one.

[iron solstice]

It's supposed to mean to just give the last digit

if the questions were to ever change, it could sometimes go like (6+9) - in which you give the input answer "5"

(To be honest, I had to literally learn what the hell "mod" meant when I used this darn thing.... I shit you not - never taught in school)

[noble plume]

It's base 10 then. More of a university thing I guess. Didn't have it in school either. But I only know notations with a base like (6+9) mod 10 or (6+9) % 10.

[smoky kite]

Its called the Modulus operator and its telling you to do (X+Y) mod 10

I dunno how you're supposed to know its mod 10 without also knowing the UI is cribbed from Voices of the Void which has the same puzzle for restarting its servers

Eba likes VotV, hehe

[storm saffron]

I couldn't tell

[cold holly]

I think the assumption for mod() is that if no value is specified the numerical base you're working in is the default

[final goblet]

you should make facility teleporters drop all your items

[abstract pebble]

I personally quite like keeping my items and continuing to explore the facility

[iron solstice]

The teleporter can already warp you onto a wall beam in between a parkour jump. No, not the beam you jump off of - you're literally on the wall above the gap.

I'mma vouch for the "Let me keep my junk as I'm dangling over a pit of death" department

[final goblet]

Its called teleporter "trap" for a reason

you're not meant to jump into it

but there is little reason not to

maybe add it as a config opition

[iron solstice]

Being locked behind a locked door, being locked behind a security door, being warped above a pit and falling to your death, being warped back to where you once were - failing to loot more... I mean .,.

[iron solstice]

I agree to this at least.

[final goblet]

but its more accurate to how teleporters work

it only makes sense

[iron solstice]

Until you realize the teleporter also teleports our suits with the flesh . ,.

very specific those teleporters.

[final goblet]

okay and?

its how teleporters in lethal company work

[polar zenith]

well i need info on how to cheat my way into refilling my rocket launcher.
cause Fing game stole my shots. i literally didn't use any of the rocket launcher shots becuse i was keeping it for an emergency use day, but the game/mod glitched out and all on it's own emptied the rocket launcher

unless the rockets in the launcher had an experation date

there is no way the shots were used cause i'm playing single player

[past crypt]

I mean if you're already cheating, just use any number of cheat mods that let you spawn credits or w/e and get a new one

idk

[polar zenith]

it's not cheating

it's getting my money back from the glitch

[past crypt]

You literally said "cheat my way", regardless of if it was a glitch or whatnot, it's technically cheating. I don't even care really, I do it all the time when shit breaks, that's just what it technically is lol

[polar zenith]

i have cheat engine, do you have any info about what bit type the money is under?

[past crypt]

Nope

I just use AdvancedCompany whenever I need to spawn credits

[full magnet]

I only knew of mod from college courses, defo smth I wouldn't expect the average person to know

Like Hacking Tool is perfect for me since I can do the operations quick lol

But I'm usually the terminal guy anywho so uhhhhh

[mellow latch]

Mod idea

Add more fumos

[storm saffron]

If you have lategame upgrades you can type "forcecredits [amount]" to change current balance

[steady topaz]

old footage from boomba's testing

[errant basin]

fun fact: teleporter traps can save you from adjacent mines

[shadow lantern]

gnarp

[deep flume]

I remember the first time i used it, I ended up killing 3 people in 1 hit in a row so I thought it was crazy powerful, went to kill a nutcracker and just got shot in the face after lmao

[storm saffron]

Add evil cookie. The ||explosives inside|| trigger when picked up rather than ||when thrown||.

[restive zephyr]

that implies that cookie isn't already evil

[storm saffron]

Well... It did say I could throw it at homeless people... That's not exactly heroic tbf

[restive zephyr]

you get double gold from them if you do that

[storm saffron]

I mean. Technically the monsters we face could be homeless

[lethal marten]

toy hammers that you don't collect seem to not be removed when you take off

[plucky lake]

They also don't get deleted after a restart in some cases

There's another mod that has scrap that has this issue as well

[fleet ledge]

Is it normal that the carpets and the Fatalities sign stopped spawning when I create a new save ?

Is it locked in the shop by default now ?

[plucky lake]

Thought it was a bug that it was spawning

[fleet ledge]

Ah, I didn't know that

So that's why it didn't spawn often lol

[plucky lake]

It only spawned for me when it was a bugged save lmao

Or mods were conflicting

[storm saffron]

Wait... THATS A FECKIN NOITA REFERENCE?!

🧙‍♂️

[little eagle]

mfw I fungal shift all scrap in the map to occupied beehives

[storm saffron]

"The word turret echoes in your mind..."

oh. Oh no.

https://tenor.com/view/sid-good-or-bad-ice-age-tiedup-ohbaby-gif-9512587

[lethal marten]

still waiting for a kolmisilma plush

[storm saffron]

I can't make enough progress in that game to understand the lore. Unless the only lore is that you're a wizard college dropout looking to apply their skills in a more practical way (kicking explosives at the wannabe thumpers and launching sawblades of death at everything, yourself included)

[lethal marten]

you can see every piece of content in the game and not understand the lore

[coarse pine]

WORMS WORMS WORMS WORMS WORMS

[storm saffron]

WORMS WORMS WORMS WORMS WORMS?

[astral hull]

Mod abusing and advertising a little bit, but the original artist behind cookie is funding a makeship campaign for cookie’s canonical sister, Amy! He says that if Amy succeeds, he’ll make another campaign for cookie; if you want your irl cookie fumo, get funding!

https://x.com/Jek_Korpen/status/1755347674298044910?s=20

Jek🆖 | 2024 COMMS OPEN (@Jek_Korpen) on X

https://t.co/IX1eC6bcxb

We still got a long way to go on the campaign and we gotta make it REAL.

Find the campaign! were only 28% through!

Twitter · Feb 7, 2024, 9:47 PM

[coarse pine]

i wanted to ask antlers but like

what relation do you have to this strange green thing

why did i go on the twitter man

thanks toesucker

[astral hull]

I adopted them before realizing they had a parent

[coarse pine]

ok

[astral hull]

ok?

[storm saffron]

I just assumed it was your Deltarune oc /J

[restive zephyr]

that was a good joke

[little eagle]

Was getting a weird thing where having rugs enabled crashed the game seconds after loading a save file. I'll keep messing around and send logs if no good info, but very weird stuff.

The error is question: (possibly related to LLL things just based on recent changes made to modlist, again I'll look into it)

[fleet ledge]

this is caused by rugs ?

[little eagle]

Had no issues after I disabled rugs in config.

[fleet ledge]

Ok, thanks for sharing, I will disable it too

[ripe sand]

were you loading into a new save or existing one

[little eagle]

Existing

[ripe sand]

yeah dont do that when you change mods

[past crypt]

It can work sometimes but if you're updating mods expect things to break

That's just a fact of Lethal Company

[ripe sand]

it breaks most of the time

[past crypt]

Eh, in my experience it's actually relatively stable usually

But I also have AdvancedCompany

Which has contingencies and shit

Which helps out a lot

Doesn't always fix it, but helps sometimes

[little eagle]

I hadn't changed any mods anyways unless you count updates

[storm saffron]

Updates can also break stuff. When the gas guzzler gets released expect any modded items you have to "shift" (wait is that a noita reference IN LETHAL COMPANYS CODE?!) and at least four bugfix updates in rapid fire

[ripe sand]

yeah; while i havent done too much in terms of playing with saves yet it seems like lethal company stores items as an id array so if a mod updates (or even down to the order mods load in) those ids can shift

[storm saffron]

Ik there is some kind of setting in LT to "fix" that but idk enough about it

[fleet ledge]

That's a fact for most games tbh

[restive zephyr]

:effect_tripping:

[signal zenith]

gas guzzler?

[storm saffron]

It has a bunch of names and I don't know what's "canon" as the universal shop name or whatever

Moves items from door to ship

Or anywhere to ship

[signal zenith]

This is an upcoming feature for lethal things?

[storm saffron]

From what I understand, yeah

There were pictures, I don't really remember...

I just remember thinking it would be great for solo

[little eagle]

I've just been calling it "Drone" for my big list of modded creatures, but I vaguely recall there being an internal modded creature name called "Maggie" which may actually be the drone?

[small grove]

i thought maggie was a creature from the scarlet devil mansion interior

idrk

[little eagle]

Oh I guess I'm just wrong then? I'll tweak the list

[lethal marten]

the flare gun doesn't really seem to work against giants. it only attracts forest keepers if they actually see the flare which is very ineffective. i presume this is a bug.

baboon hawks don't seem to be attracted to it at all

half the time forest keepers also just go to where the flare was fired instead

[small grove]

you may be right, i remember using both lethal things and sdm at the same time at some point

so idk where maggie's from

[white panther]

does lethal things work with advanced company now?

[quasi blade]

In my experience works fine but don't use the utility belt. It gives extra slots but you can't put anything in them

[signal zenith]

Hey devs, can I use the sound files from the arson plush to make a real arson plush

and the model as reference

[willow abyss]

ofcourse

[willow abyss]

maggie is another critter

[willow abyss]

[noble plume]

Can unlockable.alwaysInStock be set to false for decorations added by this mod?
It being true causes them to be listed in AC's terminal under ship upgrades.
Apparently the vanilla terminal checks for that field as well but it doesn't show up there so I'm guessing that's currently accomplished by different means?
I'm not familar with that myself but it's the information I gathered on this particular issue.
See this and the following couple of messages for reference (although this is from a time where AC was still modifying the vanilla terminal) #1186884307332108339 message

[signal zenith]

I have no idea if I did this right, "assets/custom/lethalthings/scrap/arson/arson.fbx" right?

I'm no programmer, I'm just an artist haha

[past crypt]

.fbx is the model

You'd need the audio which is likely in another file

Probably an mp3 or wav

[signal zenith]

After a quick tutorial on ILSpy and AssetStudio, I found the Arson assets 👍

[signal zenith]

Still having trouble locating UV map, and the texture looks lie a bunch of gibberish

[willow abyss]

arson is the oldest model in the mod and it is a bit jank lol

[steady topaz]

the model sent by eba doesn't have proper UV maps. here's one that has them

[past crypt]

This is an entirely minor thing and if it's not a priority then no biggie

But any possibility of giving Boombas a radius they can see around?

Seems like rn they can home in on you at any distance if pointed at you

And when you have mods with large open interiors, or mods that let them spawn outside, infinite vision range is a tad oppressive

[storm saffron]

Just run through them and don't stop running till you hear the explosion

[past crypt]

That won't work if you have base movement speed

Or are carrying anything

[storm saffron]

Hm? I thought it did

[past crypt]

Not in my experience, could be wrong though

They blow up too quickly like regular landmines

also doesn't help if I'm out of sprint, but that's probably a me issue

[iron solstice]

At default 0 lb - you can always outpace the boomba explosion if running perfectly over it.

The problem is when it grows sentience when it's supposed to have the object permanence of a damn baby... and turns around as you run over it

tis why it's best to just run over them and round a corner

a + hallway is the best for dealin' with a boomba imo

note: explosions go through walls. The rounding of the corner isn't for the explosion, it's for the line of sight

[signal zenith]

oh my god, thank you 🙏

[daring berry]

which critter!

i thought it was the ghost girl at first

Ive been trying to figure it out too

is it the new one youve been working on, orrr?

[willow abyss]

https://trello.com/c/Ht8lo2Or/20-the-lost

Trello

The lost

maggie

Labels

Feature, Enemy, Model claimed

it is basically implemented already

[daring berry]

oh dear god

does it work differently from masked

[willow abyss]

when you are teleported in any way while a snareflee is attached to your head there is a chance for you to become mangled with it and that enemy comes out on the other side.

it behaves mostly like the masked except it kinda just wanders around

https://share.evaisa.dev/sCoJY1mds.png

the model is so cursed because we kept the original UV map so that player skins work with it

[daring berry]

Oh dang

[little eagle]

that's sick (both connotations)

[idle ginkgo]

Horrifying

[lethal marten]

ooooh, would there be a setting to make it spawn naturally instead of through teleporting?

[storm saffron]

Average political debate

[signal zenith]

Does anyone ever load up their save and then pick up a maxwell that was already on the ship, but suddenly it's an evil maxwell and blows up?

[idle ginkgo]

it's actually because Maxwell exists in real time and is annoyed you made him wait X hours

[signal zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-u-right-you-right-gif-21099068

[astral hull]

@willow abyss u rlly need to push the friends and foes update

[restive zephyr]

froes

[nocturne socket]

figured it out, it throws these errors with this https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/O1Ryan/Steamboat_Willie_Ship/

everything seems to work fine so far from what i have tested

[lethal marten]

damn you boomba in the steam

[tepid parrot]

Can provide Log or any other needed information.

[storm saffron]

Does the hacking device look for the closest code on the map or is it specifically looking for turrets/mines/doors? It doesn't seem to work on teleporters

[lethal marten]

i've had more boombas sneak up on me than brackens

[ripe sand]

I'd assume it's looking for anything that can be controlled from the terminal and teleporter pads aren't

[storm saffron]

Ah

Good to know

I was also kind of wondering if it could work on modded terminal-based traps but I've yet to actually see any of those so it doesn't really matter

[ripe sand]

well all base game things that are controllable from the terminal implement a base class, so if the hacking device gets that class and the modded thing also uses that class it would work

[storm saffron]

Neat! So any interior or mechanic mod that relies on "teamwork" through the terminal shouldn't completely be impassible in solo. Thanks!

[glad yew]

Man that was a good drink lmfao

[astral axle]

What exactly is Maggie? I'm trying to figure out an incompatibility and I was under the impression that Maggie was an unimplemented enemy, but there is a lot of code in the sourcecode of LethalThings that suggests it actually does quite a lot. It almost seems like an extra Masked enemy? Which would explain the incompatibility a lot

[glad yew]

@willow abyss

[little eagle]

It's an unimplemented enemy

[little eagle]

As seen here

[glad yew]

Yeah Debby is just trying to figure out if the code causes an incompatibility with Mirage atm

[astral axle]

Is there a chance that something here could be causing the game to deactivate player's bodies in the same way Mirage does?

I imagine the Maggie EnemyAI class shouldn't run, but this is so far the closest lead I've had to a potential incompatibility

Or perhaps here

[willow abyss]

none of the maggie code is registered in the thunderstore build

it just exists

afaik

[astral axle]

Alright good to know, thank you

[daring berry]

does maxwell still blow up weirdly sometimes?

[daring berry]

thats sooo rare though. Could there maybe be a config option that would make it just spawn a little bit after a snareflea kills you (like it lays eggs in your corpse and then it grows into THAT)? :P

I can imagine the gruesome sounds already

[keen prawn]

i agree tbh

i love the teleporter idea but that's just way too rare to encounter more than a few times

[storm saffron]

What if... rare natural spawn?

Probably not

[willow abyss]

yeah that was intended

like the masked

[daring berry]

hold up you said it would act like masked, can it kill/target players?

[storm saffron]

Origin story of the mask

[restive zephyr]

that's what the point of the

[daring berry]

quick question is anyone experiencing lower fps with this mod?

ok ive been turning this mod off and on and testing inbetween for the past hour or so, it really seems to me like this mod is causing frame stutters... im gonna keep testing for a little bit

I've heard other people experiencing a similar issue but wanted to see for myself...

dammit, i can't tell. Is there anything from this mod that runs upon pressing the "host" button or could possibly make load times into the game slower?

[glad yew]

@willow abyss Had a funny bug tonight lol, so someone killed themselves by charging a key on the item charger, and after they respawned whenever someone charged an item it would teleport them to the charger XD

[daring berry]

dang, i really can't tell. this might be a case of me seeing things because im expecting them

[willow abyss]

not that i know of

i heard of people having framerate issues but i never figured out why that is because nothing in this mod is particularily demanding

the models are low poly and stuff mostly

i have curse of good pc which makes it hard to test for performance

[daring berry]

Does anything you add run in the background while you’re playing, even if you’re not using it?

it really does seem strange that this mod of all things would cause issues, since it doesn’t really seem to be something that does much besides add items at certain points in the game

I’m not totally sure yet if this mod is really causing anything, I’ll test a lot more.

[daring berry]

I’m using a laptop rn so I’m good for the job :D

Nevertheless!

Thanks for the mod evaisa :P and LethalLib! XD

[glad yew]

I've not noticed any performance issues from Lethal Things

[daring berry]

I tested it out a couple more times and haven't had any performance issues. Idk what everyone's on about then :P

i think it works!

[glad yew]

They most likely have another mod like LCSoundTool/CustomSounds which cause performance loss then assume it's Lethal Things

[storm saffron]

Yea LT was one of the earliest mods I added and I haven't had performance issues until like recently, now that the pack has (well?) exceeded 100 mods

[daring berry]

oh it does?!

i have it disabled! I DO have it disabled

had to double check

what kind of performance loss does it create?

[glad yew]

A noticeable amount I noticed it after LethalResonance moved to Bongo's api and I removed those mods

[nocturne socket]

Yeah we have had this happen a lot actually lol

[willow abyss]

huhh that sounds like a weird mod interact because afaik that could not possibly happen with lethal things by itself.. i think?

[nocturne socket]

Yeah I'm sure it's probably a mod conflict or something

[glad yew]

Might have been tied to the funny teleporting bug with Mirage before it's most recent update XD, you could teleport someone and it would teleport their masked first before them if they had a mimic of them spawned

Cus we didn't reproduce it last night when someone tried to do it again lol

[daring berry]

i think its a vanilla+this mod issue. Charging any item teleports you in front of the charger, right?

kinda just guessing in the dark but when you charge something it probably tags you with an isAtTeleporter bool and then once you're done charging, it puts all players with that bool into the correct coords... or something like that?

This game's code is messy from what I know :P

[grand steeple]

is there any way to remove/delete a purchased decor?

I honestly hate the darts keep multiplying everytime i open my save file

[grand steeple]

i also tried enabling/disabling LethalThings. Disabled dartboard in config.

But the darts were just replaced with these "?" dices

[daring berry]

Thats an advanced company thing.
The idea is that, in base game, if you disable any item and then go back into a save file in which that item was enabled, LethalCompany is going to re-order itemIDs of every item in the game, and therefore you're going to end up with all your scrap/items swapped with other scrap/items.

that's bad, so

Advanced company makes it so that doesn't happen, and instead replaces the disabled items with those red blocks

you can just throw out the red blocks and continue playing.

[steady topaz]

Lethal Things

Trademark

[restive zephyr]

Lethal ™hings

[ripe sand]

i hate this with a passion bro

[grand steeple]

oof no wonder.
I hate the darts with passion

[lethal marten]

Le™️hal ™️hings

[daring berry]

Why is everyone saying lethal things trademark :P this happens with ALL custom items when you disable them

[daring berry]

Wait you hate the mod?

[astral axle]

Nah I think they're just saying that to the trademark thing

[ripe sand]

no I meant I hate Lethal ™hings with a passion as a joke, this mod is wild

[restive zephyr]

what's a passion bro

[ripe sand]

fortnite

[tepid parrot]

Just leaving this here.
[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
LethalThings.Patches.PowerOutletStun.GameNetworkManager_Start (On.GameNetworkManager+orig_Start orig, GameNetworkManager self) (at O:/github/LethalThings/LethalThings/Patches/PowerOutletStun.cs:30)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookGameNetworkManager::Start?2013765296(GameNetworkManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.TrampolineGameNetworkManager::Start?-246301472(GameNetworkManager)
LethalThings.MonoBehaviours.GremlinEnergy.GameNetworkManager_Start (On.GameNetworkManager+orig_Start orig, GameNetworkManager self) (at O:/github/LethalThings/LethalThings/MonoBehaviours/GremlinEnergy.cs:28)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.HookGameNetworkManager::Start?-293326824(GameNetworkManager)

[high yew]

Is there a chance that LethalLib might be causing the "wait for ship to land" bug and lobby getting stuck in orbit only while playing with 5+ players?

[storm saffron]

I think this mod might be messing with discounts. I've been having a bug with modded items not being on their advertised sale almost since I started modding the game. This was one of the first mods I added, and now that I've temporarily removed it suddenly the discounts are working again

I wonder if it might be due to disabling some items

[steady topaz]

Meep morp

[dusty heart]

i killed brackens with this mod

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1169801857049309357/1211564795602411530/giphy.gif

[bright sundial]

I had this issue, i fixed it by switching from morecompany to advancedcompany

[crisp bane]

what unfortunate timing lulw

[dusty heart]

agreed

[bright sundial]

What happened

[smoky kite]

keep chat in here about Lethal Things. Discussion of Advanced Company can be done elsewhere

[bright sundial]

Ik i just brought it up because someone brought up an issue that i fixed with advanced company

[noble plume]

Just for clarification: AC is apparently gone. No need to discuss further here. Just stating as it seems like you don't know.

[noble plume]

huh that's interesting.
Only modded items you say? How does it display in-game? Does it show reduced price but deduct full from your credits?

[full magnet]

Curious how well LethalThings works when paired with LateGame Upgrades, it'll be my first time testing that mod so hoping the stuff from the two mods can play nicely together

[dusty heart]

i don't know everytime my friend joined AC would say 8 prefebs for this mod and wouldn't let them join

but that was before refining my old modpack(deleting it)

[astral axle]

I've had LethalThings through all interations of my modpack/s and it's never caused issues, other than the utility belt sometimes but those are known issues and easy to get around

[dusty heart]

i do not love how my seperate modpack has better performance then the one with my client sided mods...

[full magnet]

If there's any problems that do arise with the Utility Belt, doesn't the Wheelbarrow/Cart work somewhat as a substitute as that item? Definitely not an elegant item for indoor use but for outdoors it'd be handy

[dusty heart]

i used the OP wheelbarrow(configs set to really op numbers) it still has drawbacks like sound

[full magnet]

Wheelbarrow at least seemed fine when I did a quick glance, 4 items and 100lb max limitation seems fine, esp with the whole hazard of it making sound as you move

The pound limit I can always set it down if I feel it's too strong

[storm saffron]

Shows discount until you reach the confirmation screen

Once I removed lethalthings it seems to be fine? Could potentially be because of disabling some items?

[loud lion]

Any new updates announced for this mod?

[bright sundial]

Nope

[willow abyss]

It is because i taught the LGU dev how to add stuff and we both use lethal lib :p

[willow abyss]

There is a bunch of unfinished content but i am tired of this game and kinda not interested in working on the mod anymore at this time

Which is unfortunate because we already have finished models for like all the stuff on the todo list

[keen prawn]

damn, that really sucks

hopefully v50 will get you interested again

[loud lion]

Understandable, i was just asking. Thanks for the reply

[muted remnant]

Just wanted to report that even if the "FlareGun" is disabled, I managed to stumble upon "FlareGunAmmo" on the floor (on a new fresh save, first day on experimentation)

Same thing with the RocketLauncher, even though it's disabled I managed to find it on the floor as well in the same circumstances.

Which tells me this is the same underlying issue and related to the "LethalCompanyRemnants" mod:

https://github.com/KawaiiBone/LethalCompanyRemnants

[willow abyss]

yeah that makes sense and that is not something i can fix on my end.

the way that mod adds items as scrap is that it hooks some lethallib functions for registering the items, but does not consider that the items might be disabled later based on configuration syncing

thats entirely their problem

[muted remnant]

Got it! Thanks for the explanation! I'll forward the issue to the LethalCompanyRemnants' GitHub 🙏

[full magnet]

The only workaround I can see for the time being is using smth like LethalQuantities and setting the "Rarities" value for those items in the scrap tab to 0

[muted remnant]

Ooh, that's actually a good idea, I forgot about that mod, I'll try it out, thanks for bringing it up!

[storm saffron]

Aww. If you leave I'll miss this but I understand. Seems a lot of mods are getting abandoned lately, or maybe that's just me.

[coarse pine]

you should give the arson plush control over the downloaders computer I tghink

[weary escarp]

Would love mods to be separated. the teleporter pads seem super fun, but too many other things come along with that

[muted remnant]

Although I understand your point, fortunately there's quite a bit of stuff you can disable in the already included config file 🙂

And although it's not as easy as just changing values in the config file, you can use LethalQuantities as suggested earlier by Violet, for me it seems to currently work in resolving the issue I had earlier!

[tepid parrot]

@willow abyss

It appears that in the current version of Lethal Things. If you buy a new Rocket Launcher, drop it on the ship, leave the game, and then reload the save at a later time. The rocket launcher loads with no ammo present.

[willow abyss]

I know

[gentle tree]

i've found a "fix" (more like a reverse bug) to that with the cabinet mod, if you put it inside and take it back it will be full again 🤣

[hazy raptor]

wait what. what kinda arm dealer living in the cabinet

[gentle tree]

A really short arm dealer yes

[honest solar]

someone know what this error is?

[iron solstice]

I've had these errors for god knows how long. You're fine. As far as I can tell - it does nothing

[mighty spruce]

AC is still alive btw. and completely useable. so not unfortunate at all really.

[tough frigate]

it wasnt when they sent that message

[mighty spruce]

ah. maybe. you're probably right. just popped back into the thread and thats where my scroll was at. didn't check the date on it. :V

[unborn hawk]

maggie when ? ?? ?? ? ??

@willow abyss i wont be able to sleep tonight now that i know it exists (thats fine btw, i can go without sleep) i dont need sleep you need sleep

[acoustic pewter]

';l\

[unborn hawk]

tf does that mean

[small grove]

';l\

[acoustic pewter]

cat was on keyboard i didnt realise they typed that mb

[restive zephyr]

hmmm

[hazy raptor]

#1178456016254414878 message :(

[mighty spruce]

thats one big omega sad. 😦

[mighty spruce]

boomba strikes a gain moment? aided by molester yippee?

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxxhfTO_84smGX0OD-VBJJfRPDaBkOmDMG?si=BV04fZDBA0MzEQ6t

[glad yew]

I've gotten used to just running over Boombas and getting away before they explode but not everyone in my group knows about that trick

I know 2 people got killed once cus a boomba ran into them 😆

[unborn hawk]

i got no sleep yesterday

[scenic rapids]

When using this mod together with ScarletDevilMansion (https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Alice/ScarletDevilMansion/), the following error is printed into the console:

Unsure if this actually affects anything but it definitely doesn't happen when SDM is disabled.

This prints as soon as the titlescreen is loaded.

[edgy dawn]

@willow abyss My team and I got a ton of Half Life 1 assets ported for Unity, but we are having issues getting your template project working. I get to step 5 and my Unity doesn't notice anything as being realted to a project at all :/
#1206155878647078912 message

We are hoping to do a really cool custom Half Life interior mod and custom Black Mesa moon. We are about to get the DunGen stuff going, but was told your template was needed and are having issues getting it off the ground :/

[willow abyss]

If you are doing custom moon stuff i recommend using #1193461151636398080

[barren kite]

Is Utility Belt 3 slots now?

[astral hull]

It’s always been 3 slots

[barren kite]

But 4 keybinds?

[willow abyss]

whoops

lmao

i definitely test my mods

[restive zephyr]

how have i not seen that emoji before

[lethal marten]

new arson unlocked

[high geyser]

hey uh is weezer guitar still a thing? because i couldn't find it for a long time and i don't see it in config spawn chance

[barren kite]

That's from https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1189848033110798346

[high geyser]

ooooh

thanks

[lethal marten]

ow

[astral axle]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gif-489706024751614926

[willow abyss]

loathsome brick eater

[muted remnant]

Reminds me of a random clip I got the other day when I had a "big brain" moment

[worn thorn]

thats amazing

[astral bay]

is the drone interesting to play around? to me it just sounds more annoying than anything

[muted remnant]

Well, you're right in some sense, but I guess with the fact that it explodes on impact, having the ability to throw something at it to make it explode and potentially damage/kill other enemies is like a cool unintended feature in my mind

[astral bay]

I meant the function of it like the shockinmg

[muted remnant]

Well it's basically timed area denial, which could potentially hinder you while you try to escape another mob I guess?

So you have to take into account that it's there and keep in mind that it's basically a "moving" mine in some sense

I guess it could have other uses/functions to make it more interesting, but so far I'm keeping it mostly 'cause it adds that novelty factor, both in terms of audio design (it sounds kinda terrifying the first time when you don't know what's making that noise) and just overall "wth is that?" bonks it with a shovel - explodes "oh..." funny thing the first time you see it

but yeah having it paired with the "throw something at it" is the "other use" I keep it for as well

[restive zephyr]

ebacookie.DownLoadabLe

[pulsar wigeon]

i talked with some friends and many agreed that it would be cool if the revolver had a 50% chance of actually shooting and a 50% chance of actually baiting you
https://github.com/EvaisaDev/LethalThings/issues/60
If anyone agrees, it's on their github

[hazy raptor]

lethallib update ?

[glad yew]

Yeah it's to fix the problem Xu was talking about yesterday

Where custom enemies and stuff using LethalLib couldn't spawn properly on LLL moons and stuff

[hazy raptor]

oh yea i forgor thats a problem

remember people talking anything else dont spawn but shyguy and peepers still spawn

[steady topaz]

https://youtu.be/RTLAFQliwjw?si=uas_qhuYuyhuRBjO

[astral flame]

I've run into an issue where ammo does not save for the rocket launcher and shotgun. for the shotgun it resets to 2 bullets everytime I open the save. for rockets it removes all ammo when i open the save even if said ammo was never used

[smoky kite]

Maxwell sells the ammo for catnip whenever you're not around

[bronze coral]

So for some reason when I put utility belt into the terminal to purchase it, the price for the hacking tool is displayed yet it still shows that I'm buying the utility belt. I purchase it and when the dropship comes it ends up dispensing the hacking tool anyway

[astral bay]

wuhh

and it gave scanner

pinger*

[bronze coral]

There's gotta be something shuffling this around by mistake

The weird thing is that it doesn't always seem to happen. Like I can boot up the game once and it'll be fine but then on another boot it'll break like this

[bronze coral]

So I booted up the game again and it gave the correct price and item this time. So something has to be bugging out upon initial loading

[primal dagger]

i have an idea for a new item: the bear trap
The bear trap is a piece of equipment that you can buy from the store but also (maybe) find inside/outside on the moons

The bear trap can be placed down, and when a non-invincible creature/player walks over the bear trap, it damages them and slows them down

If you're a player, you can remove yourself from the bear trap by crouching for around 10 seconds (you get a prompt on-screen to help players not familiar with this game mechanic)

Hoarding bugs can pick up bear traps but they will activate and damage them

teh amount of time for which a bear trap remains on a monster depends on their stun multiplier and whether or not they can be damaged

Any invincible monster that walks over the trap (coil-heads, giants, jesters) will activate the bear trap but simply fling it away from themselves

(i think it would also be really funny to have the ghost girl just throw active bear traps in a random direction lol)

[restive zephyr]

sp2lnuky refejircekncee ?!!??!!?!

[final kettle]

i saw this, is this a bug?

[tepid parrot]

@willow abyss

I was informed that many things in lethal things are hardcoded and could cause conflicts with other mods. Now I am not that good at making mods yet, but is there a way that there could be a more friendly implementation of the hardcoded features for compatibility?

Also is this even a large problem? I know quite a lot of mods that add items use LethalLib.
Is this only a compatibility problem for mods that use Lethal Expansion or another form of item implementation?

I ask because I am trying to pursue Stability for my mod pack as well as have it feature-packed. I would hate to get rid of Lethal Things if I run into a problem. I love it dearly.

Thanks in advance. 😄

[willow abyss]

i have no idea what parts cause conflicts

i did not write things in a way i would call conflicting

i avoided overwriting functions and stuff like that

[tepid parrot]

I figured since you especially have set the groundwork for many mods, and have a well used Library.

I will have to get more details to present to you if I find errors.
Are you aware of any incompatibilities with Lethal Things as of now?

[analog dock]

@willow abyss Could you by chance upload the mod separated into multiple mods? Like EvaisaTraps for the tp trap, EvaisaEnemies for the boomba, EvaisaFurniture for the ship furniture, EvaisaLoot for the scrap, and EvaisaEquipment for the rocket launcher and such. Might be a big ask but if you have no plans for updates separating the mods can allow people to use what they want more precisely than the config allows. I just want the boomba, tp trap, and scrap. My group loves these parts of the mod and the rest, even while disabled, can cause issues with other mods

[tepid parrot]

Oh what issues are caused?

[willow abyss]

No plan for that

[willow abyss]

Not that i know of, it had issues with advanced company at one point but that wasn't really my fault lol

[analog dock]

I'm just having issues with discount alert and the equipment randomly spawning in the ship when loading a save sometimes. I even have them disabled within the config

[tepid parrot]

I think most mods had those problems hahaha

[willow abyss]

I don't really play the game anymore so idk about current mods

[willow abyss]

I mean stuff spawning happens when mods change content or items are added/removed in an existing save

Thats just a game issue

[tepid parrot]

I run discount alert with no problems. What is the error you are having.
"equipment randomly spawning in the ship when loading a save sometimes" Can you explain this further.

[willow abyss]

Because the game saves items in a horrible way

[analog dock]

I don't want the discounts to pop up for the shop items I have disabled

[tepid parrot]

@analog dock Check out https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/SylviBlossom/SmartItemSaving/

[willow abyss]

The game saves/loads items based on their numerical index in a list meaning if any mod adds or removes content (including vanilla) all your items in your saves will change

[tepid parrot]

That may be something that Discount Alert would have to fix.

[willow abyss]

Yeah no idea about that