Lategame Upgrades

[tawdry wadi]

Idk, it was working fine before for me so it would be 3.7.2 that broke it somehow

I was using Vega to disable turrets, I could have checked logs but I was doing my big 16 hour stream 😅 so I was trying to avoid doing troubleshooting stuff as much as possible and just dealt with it not working, but I think at one point someone was even disabling them from the ship and they weren't exploding

[steady trail]

Malware wasn't touched.

[tawdry wadi]

Is it possible cus I set this to false, you introduced a new bug where it also disables it for the turrets and mines?

Cus I know for a fact it was fine with 3.7.1

lol

[steady trail]

Nobody tests that so maybe.

I'm not in the position to fix this mod right now.

[tawdry wadi]

Yeah you're all good

I'll do some testing

@steady trail yeah it was that setting

lol

Set it to true and it works again

[steady trail]

[gusty flint]

Nice apparatice

[steady trail]

It's just because somebody suggested stuff like item progression mode.

Most of the stuff I made was pretty simple so I liked the change of pace.

I got a semi working prototype, it's only missing the CustomScrap to do stuff (because it requires configuration stuff and I hate it. )

[gusty flint]

i was partly making fun of the spelling but i might be the fool here

also that's sick lol

is it gonna be part of LGU?

[steady trail]

It will be an alternative mode which you can configure to turn on.

[gusty flint]

gotcha

[steady trail]

The idea roughly from what I got discussing:

• CustomScrap and UniqueScrap provide a boost on getting an upgrade through their value (the difference being that CustomScrap you specify which scrap help what upgrade while UniqueScrap gives all items an upgrade to boost towards)
• NearestValue is provide an upgrade closest to the amount you sold (rounded down so if there are no upgrades with a price below it, it won't give you one)
• ChancePerScrap is whenever you're selling a scrap item, it rolls a die and if successfull, it will give you a random upgrade based on a criteria (pure random, cheapest or lowest level)
• Apparatice is whenever you sell an apparatus, you get a random upgrade.

[gusty flint]

that makes sense, cant wait to see how you spend hours on balancing :p

[steady trail]

On defaults?

[gusty flint]

yeah prob

[steady trail]

Like..

My problem is probably the amount of contribution a given item can give to the upgrade boost.

Right now it has a 85% contribution on each scrap sold.

Which is applied after the company buy rate.

[gusty flint]

icic, that's quite a lot

[steady trail]

Maybe, I don't know.

It is configurable so people can change if they want it.

[gusty flint]

fair

[steady trail]

Though I had a problem with RPCs not being able to write the whole string for the save.

So I had to go to byte arrays.

[gusty flint]

huh

[steady trail]

And technically the UniqueScrap should work with any kind of items you add.

The CustomScrap might be more troublesome.

Because itemProperties name might not be the same as the scan node.

[gusty flint]

ah yeah, usually isnt

wallets arent for example (tho those are shop items) because they have variants

[steady trail]

Luckily I have the GrabbableObject instance so I can prolly pull off the header out of it.

If itemProperties doesn't match, go check node.

If still no match, we're boned.

[gusty flint]

lol, i hate matching names, its why i just gave my items the quest component if they're quests

[steady trail]

Whoever wants to have fun with Item Progression for me (so that I can find any bugs before production).

[steady trail]

mfw 52 transpilers.

[gusty flint]

Can we get a company cruiser refueller upgrade

[steady trail]

You don't even know if it has fuel!

- Implemented an alternative "Item Progression" mode where you can acquire upgrades based on the items you sell alongside using credits to purchase them.
  - CustomScrap: Each upgrade has a configuration option where you specifiy the several items that will contribute to the upgrade.
    - Each item contribute through their scrap value sold multiplied by a configurable multiplier for contribution.
    - When the items are sold and if they contribute to an upgrade, they will be displayed in the upgrade's screen display under "Discovered Items"
  - UniqueScrap: All items present in the game will be attributed to an upgrade, ignoring item specification configurations.
    - Each item contribute through their scrap value sold multiplied by a configurable multiplier for contribution.
    - When the items are sold and if they contribute to an upgrade, they will be displayed in the upgrade's screen display under "Discovered Items"
  - NearestValue: Whenever a quota is met, it will purchase the upgrade closest to the met quota value.
    - The quota value is rounded down meaning if there are no upgrades with a price lower than the quota, it will not purchase any upgrade.
  - ChancePerScrap: Whenever a scrap item is sold to the company, it will roll a value between 0 and 1 and checks if it's lower than the configured value for chance
    - If it meets the criteria, it will pick an upgrade to purchase based on the criteria of randomenss:
      - Random: Pure random and does not take any consideration of what the upgrades have.
      - Cheapest: Picks the upgrade with the lowest price to purchase.
      - Lowest Tier: Picks the upgrade with the lowest level to purchase.
  - Apparatice: Whenever an apparatus is sold, a random upgrade will be purchased.

- Refactored game attribute relevant upgrades (Running Shoes, Bigger Lungs, etc.) such as the effects are not cancelled when other mod is setting some value to the same variables they are interacting with.
  - This means that any mods that requires to know the full value of the attribute variables, they no longer can just check the variable as the increments are added separately.

Now to disappear because tests/discussions/projects.

[steady trail]

Also I don't know the point of a car.

You barely have room to go anywhere with it anyways.

[gusty flint]

Yeah I wasn't sure what he's doing with ut

It's why I'm making a hoverboard

Cuz thats like, less space

[steady trail]

Like sure, it looks cool.

But unless it's like a portable vehicle.

[gusty flint]

I just gotta figure out how to lock the player above the hoverboard and use interavf triggers

[steady trail]

It won't be that much use.

[gusty flint]

I mean it can't fit in the shup

Ship

[steady trail]

Yeah.

[gusty flint]

So surely its a separate entity

Like the capsule Corp stuff

https://tenor.com/view/dbz-dragon-ball-z-time-machine-time-capsule-trunks-gif-18842308

[steady trail]

inb4 a competitor to my wheelbarrow.

[gusty flint]

Looool

[median egret]

If it's not able to carry items I'm gonna make a car disabler mod 🤭

and canonically wheelbarrow was first 🫡

[sacred zinc]

The car could be for a specific new moon we haven't seen yet

[dawn phoenix]

im pretty sure it wont be

he even shows it off on exp and art

[left dew]

Is there a bug with efficient engines? I bought the 4th upgrade for the 30% and now it shows I have none of the upgrades from it

[misty plank]

Noted, but I have a question/minor suggestion. I know you have an overwrite option for all the perks, however it's very tedious to turn that main setting off and individually set every perk to be on especially with the ever growing list of them. Would you be able to add an additional setting that ignores the overwrite so I don't have to manually enable every single "This perk is now shared" toggle?

[misty plank]

I meant to reply to this

[sacred zinc]

There is a setting to share all upgrades if that is what you are looking for

[rich slate]

Ive been having issues with the Stronger Legs upgrade not working when we land after buying the upgrade, as well as running shoes upgrades past upgrade 2. They take the money and gray out, but after one mission, and landing next time, its not working anymore, and we can't rebuy it. Anyone know why?

[mortal berry]

By the way, I was going to send you logs regarding the Mechanical Arm upgrade not working, but I don't even see any logs that refer to the Mechanical Arm in the first place, would you still like me to send you logs anyway?

[prime phoenix]

Mechanical Arm upgrade seems to be only working with interacting stuff
you cant really pick up items but interacting works with main entrance, fire exit, closing doors and etc

no clue if its a mod conflict or not

[steady trail]

Btw, the fact that I'm not talking as much here right now is because:

• Got sick yesterday and couldn't eat anything.
• have a project discussion today
• have a test tomorrow
• have two project deliveries in next two days.
  So yeah, this is best week I'm having right now.

[mortal berry]

Oi

[steady trail]

If there aren't any errors appearing when trying to pick up from afar, it seems the vanilla function is not being called to try grab.

[mortal berry]

That... well that sucks

[steady trail]

It is what it is.

[gusty flint]

You're missing out on the coolest hoverboard code rn

Get well soon tho, I got my test in 30 mins

[steady trail]

Nice.

[steady trail]

What would be this exactly though?

Because you have an override in misc section to make eveything shared, yes.

[steady trail]

I found out why btw.
It's the reason I hate manipulating strings.

[gusty flint]

F

[celest quest]

Recently I've experienced a small discrepancy between the range of grabbable items showing the UI prompt and the range that I actually have to be in in order to grab it (i.e. there's a small distance where you see the prompt but can't grab the item). I feel like this coincides with the new lgu upgrade that extends reach..? Has this been brought up before? I haven't done any testing on it yet just asking

[steady trail]

I need the list of mods to know the conflicting one.
Because either:

• An error appears when you attempt to grab it
• Another mod overrides the "grab" logic which it doesn't take account the upgrade increase

[steady trail]

Also what the fuck, somebody else other than me is using my interactive terminal API.

[celest quest]

I'll look into it. Just to be clear tho I haven't actually used the upgrade yet. So it should all be default ig.
I just felt like this might have been happening since LGU updated with this new upgrade.. I could be wrong.
I'll look out for errors.

[steady trail]

Both prompt range and actual grab distance use the same function (to increase the range) when patched so if you're seeing the prompt, you should be able to grab it.

[celest quest]

fyi narrowed it down to GI. LGU has nothing to do with it 🙂

[dawn phoenix]

oh i have the same issue, have you found a solution?

[celest quest]

yes, it's MaskedEntitiesShowPlayerNames = true causing it

[celest quest]

set it to false

[dawn phoenix]

bruh

ty

[mortal berry]

What?

That is THE weirdest incompatibility. But also the simpliest to remedy from our point.

[steady trail]

[mortal berry]

Uhh, that didn't work at all for me, actually. I'll maybe try disabling all the masked-related features from GI.

[steady trail]

Masked are trully a specimen.

[mortal berry]

Even with all the default settings on GI for the masked, it still doesn't work

[mortal berry]

You sure it's GI?

[west blaze]

So I get a feeling this may be a softspot but erm... whats the deal with the lightning rod? Our group bought it for the first time ever last night and it seemingly did naff all

Also I'll be the bad guy and, whilst i cant speak for everyone, I personally (along with my group) think the lore dumps on some of the lgu entries are a bit erm... much?

Makes it seem very disconnected if you get me?

I.e. lore is cool, but name a vanilla game item or buyable that has lore on the buy screen? Its inconistent with the main game and, to be frank, theres probs a reason why zeekers didnt add lore to the items themselves, probably the cumbersome nature of how it looks :S

[dawn phoenix]

i love the shop lore

very cool flavor text

as for the lightning rod im pretty sure i have never used it

[mortal berry]

From what I heard, it only redirects the randomized strikes, not the ones that are aimed towards conductive scrap. (Although it really should)

Don't quote me on this though

[steady trail]

Lightning rod works on effective distance and probability.

[gusty flint]

also i got the hoverboard completely working uwu (i havent tested multiplayer yet)

[rich dirge]

small question, do individual upgrades count as in the likes of stuff that buffs the player directly while stuff like discounts, tool upgrades, etc. or?

[steady trail]

I don't understand the question.

[sacred zinc]

"Individual upgrades" is a setting used to not share the upgrades with the whole squad

This has nothing to do with upgrades that would boost an individual

[west blaze]

It might just be me, but considering the price to benefit ratio of most LGU's upgrades, 1000 for something that, probability or not, seems very ineffective seems a bit off.

E.g: protein powder , which is an objective "you do double damage woot woot" is also 1000

[steady trail]

The one I proposed redirected everything.

Regardless of context.

[west blaze]

What happened then?

[steady trail]

I wasn't the maintainer then.

So I just let it be.

[west blaze]

Well you know what they say... this future i do not accept it, as an error only becomes a mistake once we refuse to correct it :L

[steady trail]

People only started arguing about it 5 months later.

[west blaze]

Well if its any consilation there is an entire group of players (we have a big company group of 15 folk) that'd love you if you updated it ❤️

[steady trail]

I can put other logic into it and you decide what you like.

Not now, I have other stuff to do.

[west blaze]

I'd be eternially grateful ❤️

One of our group hates stormy weather.

I quote here: "If I see one drop of rain, I'd rather dry hump sandpaper than go down to that moon" 😆

[crisp hawk]

does the fireaxe/bat from immersive scraps stack with the protein powder upgrade? if they did it'd be 4 dmg per swing

[peak delta]

having the mod for holding more than 2 2 handed items collides with reserved slots

[solemn ether]

i had a similar issue in a modlist of ~70 mods with a few friends, i tested around and it was LethalThings that broke it
the issue was that the visible range of grabbing was extended, but not the actual reach range

turning off LethalThings consistently removes the issue, and turning it on consistently causes it again
gonna test if doing any config options on the side of LethalThings could make it not happen: no change in results

also did another profile that is just LethalThings and LGU (+dependencies), and having the two installed together causes Mechanical Arms to not work

[rich dirge]

I have it set to not share, mainly bc one friend of mine for some reason has a very weird bug with his game
N I'm asking because I did see some upgrades that benefit the entire crew regardless like time being slowed, destructive broadcast, faster landing, etc.

[fading marten]

Can't believe this is right. What is Lethal Things doing that messes with this?

It's true, LethalThings is the culprit behind the arms breaking - but why?

it adds scrap, many other mods I have add scrap. It adds ship functionality, many other mods add that. It adds a hazard, a few mods add that. ... I have mods that all do pieces of what LethalThings do, so why do all of those mods put together not brick it, but LT does?

i guess the only thing I don't have another mod doing is adding decor

that's the only aspect no other mod adds

in my 150+ pack o -o

[gusty flint]

LT does a lot

[dense idol]

All I can think of is utility belt so I'll blame utility belt

[sacred zinc]

When in doubt blame the utility belt

It's always the utility belt

[zenith gorge]

Recently (yesterday) ran into LethalThings plus new update to Oneshotmoons or PortalDunGen, causing Imperium to break. How these 3(4) are related? Completely beyond me. But when all 3 were there it caused issues. Not that this helps for LGU, just noting that LT be doing something funky.

[blazing wagon]

I don't know exactly what causes the issue with LT, but it is part of the reason I prefer mods to have limited scopes and be offered piecemeal, rather than as a big bundle of items that touch different things all over the game. I mostly run Lethal Things just for hazards and the Boomba, these days.

I used to use the scrap, but I kept getting a weird texture atlas error for the cookie fumo that was affecting performance, so I ultimately ended up turning all of that off.

[gusty flint]

i think that atlas texture error isnt cookie fumo, but im not 100% sure, i've heard stuff about it with unity being quirky, i couldnt find a fix though

[blazing wagon]

It's possible, but I seem to remember the error message in question referencing the cookie fumo, specifically. But it's been ages since we played with it, so I've got no real idea.

[gusty flint]

It specifically referenced cookie atlas

I dont know if cookie fumo is only called cookie internally

But possible

[safe thistle]

when boombox is on it doesn't enable sick beats, also another one is the shopping cart's deposit hitbox is very strange

[steady trail]

I need logs for the boombox.
And you need to clarify what "strange" is.

[outer plaza]

it's just inconsistent sometimes

but it ain't that bad, just makes putting things in a little annoying at times but it's a good trade-off cuz of how much you can fit in there

[steady trail]

The deposit "hitboxes" are on the outside of the cart.

Otherwise deposit and pick up would override more often.

[outer plaza]

yeh, I usually have to crouch down and touch and aim for the bottom of the cart

half the fun of using the shopping cart is to struggle to put stuff in xd

[fading marten]

Just hopefully ye know the strat of putting numerous things in a row into it . ,.

holdin' dat E and scrollin'

[outer plaza]

huh, never rlly thought about it like dat

[west blaze]

I can confirm it is an issue.

Maybe a conditional that you have hold control to have deposit come up or something? So that way there isn't an override issue to begin with?

Like go near it you can take items off it.

Hold control or whatever key and it switches you to deposit mode.

[west blaze]

Ngl this issue once again shows imo some uber nerd needs go create a full proper mod api

[umbral bough]

How is the quantum disruptor coded and when is it applied?

since my mod sets the globaltimespeedmultiplier to the associated dictionary value for the moon on every frame of MoveGlobalTime

[dense idol]

I love this mod because it let us do this on day 3 of a quota after selling everything the previous quota

[sacred zinc]

If you want to dig in the code the repository is public https://github.com/Malcolm-Q/LC-LateGameUpgrades/tree/main

[steady trail]

When it's bought.

I have changed it though so it's not an increment to the variable but rather my own variable that gets added at relevanr points.

Thus if am overwrite happens, it won't discard however people cannot read the actual value of the variable anymore and would have to check if LGU's on and grab the respective method to get the actual value.

[umbral bough]

ah, and also that means it wouldn't support moons with a custom speed

like tranquillity

[steady trail]

I don't get what you're saying.
Quantum only messes with globalSpeedTimerMultiplier, yes.

It shouldn't care what speed multiplier is set on each moon.

[umbral bough]

that is globalSpeedTimerMultiplier

there is no moon specific speed

I make it moon specific by binding a globalSpeedTimerMultiplier to the moon and a config with a dictionary

wait there is dayspeedmultiplier hmm just don't know if its used

ok its used to calculate the end of the day

but not for moving time

[river dawn]

funny helmet bonk

[steady trail]

Meanwhile the coil head enjoying the show.

[rich dirge]

Is it just me or is anyone else loading in a broken game eith InputUtils v0.7.5?
Just asking since after updating it to that version then I couldn't host, join or anything else

[steady trail]

InputUtils is having fun right now.

Give it a bit.

[rich dirge]

i found out the hardway that i had to downgrde it to 0.7.4 xD

[lucid sentinel]

update to 0.7.7

rune forgor to include some stuff

[rich dirge]

It works 👍

[zenith gorge]

don't know if anyone has said this, but Tulip snake hunter value is probably too high by default. Of course it can be changed, but just figure most won't, and suddenly hunting tulip snakes is almost more profitable than going inside

[umbral bough]

default vanilla value as in 5+6?

its sprint time right?

[zenith gorge]

That reminds me, anyone know any common culprits that might be resetting the run speed every few seconds when on moons, or killing the jump height bonus? Hadn't figured it out yet, and am not aware of anything else that should be messing with speed or jump aside from LGU. I'll get around to trial and erroring it to figure it ok eventually if no one has an answer.

[steady trail]

Enhanced TZP is one that updates speed per frame.

[zenith gorge]

Unfortunately not running that one. I might post my mod list later and someone will be able to point it out.

[umbral bough]

Hmmmm weird

[misty plank]

What I mean by this is you already have an option to override everything to a yes by default. What about an option for every upgrade (since you're always adding new ones) to ignore the override of being shared? If I want night vision goggles to function on an individual level, I would have to go one by one each and every single upgrade and turn them all except for night vision to shared just to have the effect I want.

Don't be afraid to turn on reply mentions btw. I would prefer it so I know when you respond actually

[violet yacht]

I wanna try picking up this mod but I'm afraid of some incompatibilities that could be had with my modpack currently

0190022b-c2db-faa5-af4a-3eae18e8cf61

code for those that need it

would any of these mods conflict?

[steady trail]

Mods that change speed/weight/stamina time/jump/time passing could override some of the upgrades.

Looking one by one not only is hard because it's already a pain reading this mod's code so what's different reading others and some "conflicts" are either immediately obvious and show an immediate crash or error on the user's end or they're silent and we will never know if there was an issue til we decide to check the logs' content.

TL;DR I don't know if any of them would conflict and if they do, I don't mind you telling me that to see if I can do anything about it.

[steady trail]

So besides the toggle all shared button, you want a toggle all individual button?

[violet yacht]

so like 90% of flip's BetterStamina mod 😭

[steady trail]

Maybe.

I don't know what it does to give an exact answer.

[violet yacht]

fair

from its config it doesn't seem to really increase stamina but just reduce the consumption of stamina

[steady trail]

But it's mostly others overriding this mod's effects, not this mod nullifying other mod's effects.

[violet yacht]

I see I see...

eh if it's just a stamina conflict thing then I think for the most part the mod should work fine, since it's such a small aspect in the wide variety of options this mod offers from what I can see

can upgrades be disabled to appear in the shop?

[steady trail]

You can toggle anything in the config.

[violet yacht]

👀

alrighty

[steady trail]

Upgrades, items, contracts, ..

You can config the mod to your liking.

[violet yacht]

fantastic, I'll definitely try it then :)

[violet yacht]

Is there a way to turn off the night vision battery ui text?

[steady trail]

Text? No.

I don't think if you can put an invisible colour on it either.

[violet yacht]

I find the font of it being different from the other text found in the game to be strange, but even that aside I just prefer it to be the simple bar

[steady trail]

You can actually.

The last two digits are the alpha value, if you put it essentialy 0, it won't appear.

[violet yacht]

Oh!

[misty plank]

No, think of it as an overwrite button for the global shared overwrite. I know it's dumb, but I can't think of a better way to allow certain perks to be individual instead of manually changing everything from self to shared

[steady trail]

So instead of toggles, it's a list.

[umbral bough]

Is there a way to make the night vision upgrade be shared but not the item itself?

like I want to have the stats upgrade for everyone but each player should still need a seperate pair

[umbral bough]

whats the vanilla value of this?

I know from testing that 0.75 is 80% of the vanilla value
0.9375 is 98% of it

0.95 is still -1% so 99%

[violet yacht]

Oh is that what causes that to happen?

aw

yeah a change to that would be great :)

[steady trail]

Make it individual.

If that doesn't work, you give me the logs of that.

[violet yacht]

it's not that it's a bug I think but moreso that we wanna have the NV battery upgrade be shared but the actual NV Goggle be individual.

currently in the config where turning on the shared upgrade also causes the NV goggles to be shared so when one player puts it on every player has NV

it's not that it's a bug I think but moreso that we wanna have the NV battery upgrade be shared but the actual NV Goggle be individual.

currently in the config where turning on the shared upgrade also causes the NV goggles to be shared so when one player puts it on every player has NV

[misty plank]

this ^

Cause that's how I thought it'd work originally, but it doesn't. So it's frustrating when I knowingly bought myself night vision goggles and equip them, only to have them suddenly stop working at some point when I need to use them.

That's why I thought it was a bug for so long.

Think of it like that blue baseball helmet that protects your head against like a hit or two of damage (that's probs in another mod I have but you get my point). It's for the player, and not everyone will get it if one person equips it.

Another example would be the vanilla game itself with flashlights. If I only buy one flashlight, why would my teammate on the other side of the facility suddenly be able to turn on a flashlight when we both know they don't have one? Going further on that, why would him dying suddenly disable my flashlight entirely? It makes no sense and it's very frustrating to have that happen. So much so to the point where I don't even bother buying night vision goggles when I know they're gonna stop working for me at some point anyway, I'd rather not waste my credits on something that's inconsistent

[spark heath]

How possible would it be to have a radar booster act as a beacon for the inverse teleporter?

As an upgrade

[violet yacht]

That's actually such a cool idea

[zenith gorge]

Enhanced Radar Boosters does this I believe

[spark heath]

Maybe, its not on the thunderstore description so I can't tell atm

[fading marten]

it does indeed.

[spark heath]

Oh shid

[ivory halo]

i found a bomb in the facility and when we tried to put in the "lookup BV-996" it said we need a bomb defuse contract to do that command

but we litteraly had the bomb in our face and when we did the command "contract" it said we currently had a bomb defuse contract going

😄

does the contract break when you quit the game and reopen the save when there was a contract going?

cuz that is really sad to waste credit on a contract you cant even do any more

also i have been upgrading back-muscles and better lungs several times and they reset on the save file

Code: 01901278-4217-069b-661a-6c0992b0901e

[steady trail]

It's fixed in next release.

The bomb thing

The reset on file, I need logs.

[ivory halo]

how do i get the log? i am about to try see if it does it now by closing my run and reopening it

so ill wait until i know before i do anything 😄

[steady trail]

In the BepInEx folder.

It only saves the upgrades when you reach an autosave state.

[ivory halo]

ok ill see if it does it now then could be cuz i did something wrong

[steady trail]

Otherwise something is crashing when loading back.

[ivory halo]

yup it happened again, i bought back muscles and better lungs last quota and played all 5 days ( bought extended deadlines twice ) and once we sold everything i closed the save and opened it up again. now my upgrades for back muscles and better lungs are back to level 0

[ivory halo]

do you need the "LogOutput.log" file?

[steady trail]

Yes.

[steady trail]

Just used your modpack and bought a couple stuff and it saved just fine.
The logs don't show any errors that could affect the saving of the upgrades so I'm not sure what happened.

[ivory halo]

i see, sounds like it could be that the save is bugged then

[misty plank]

But anyway yeah, I do hope you take that into consideration.

[small dirge]

Hey @steady trail, redirect me if this isn't the place for this, but I noticed you compiled a bunch of Desync issue threads in the LLL Github and marked them fixed. I'm still having issues with my friends having desynced weathers and interiors from me (host) and it seems to be a problem with Tolian moons in particular. I've made a post in Tolians Github already, but considering you had that thread, any reccomendations?

Code, if needed:
019019f6-c3e6-96c8-b926-3f45d1a1b134

We all run the same modpack with the exact same configs and everything.

[misty plank]

Aaaand even turning off the sharing for only the night vision goggles it STILL drops when other people die..

This is beyond frustrating.

here's my log

[steady trail]

I'm having test today but I will take a read after lunch.

But the NV dropping regardless of share has been an annoyance for some time because I can't find the fault.

In theory it should only run for who's dying, not everyone.

[ivory halo]

will the contracts also be set on custom moons?

[steady trail]

They already should.

[rotund stirrup]

Hey, just had all the client crash after putting dead bodies inside the shopping cart

note that those people dead bodies got reanimated using Intern

[steady trail]

I can't seem to make it crash.

[gusty flint]

speaking of things u can mount, hoverboard should fully work now!!11!! (problem was that zeekers made his own client network transform that didnt follow the client network transform in the unity docs)

[steady trail]

Lmfao.

Love reinventing the wheel.

[ivory halo]

so far i have only seen the vanilla once even with the few modded moons that are free

but its possible that i just been unlucky

[steady trail]

Last I checked, it worked fine on picking custom moons.

So unless the level mechanism changed, it should be functional.

[lucid sentinel]

so they got reanimated in the cart and then y’all crashed?

[rotund stirrup]

nah they where already reanimated before we put their old bodies inside

then after a few sec it crashed

[vocal anvil]

In this case there are legitimate reasons to reinvent it

[keen shoal]

When trying to use the discombobulator it instead offers me to buy an item :(

is there any way to activate the discombobulator ?

[steady trail]

atk/initattack

[keen shoal]

is there a way to fix the upgrades resetting (but still working) when I join a friend

because everytime I gotta get them to screenshare to know what to buy :v

[wraith hearth]

Hey, when playing with lgu none of the commands to open the store work? lgu, lategame, or lategame store

Im on the most recent update too

[steady trail]

And you're sure the mod's loaded?

As in it didn't crash on boot.

[wraith hearth]

im sure its loaded

[little mortar]

We are having issues with weight not going away after setting items for Jeb. Seems to only happen to non-host players

The item glitches, deposits, then goes back into inventory i guess doubling your weight

Then it doesnt clear when depositing

[frail briar]

Would it be possible to make an upgrade that halves the spawn cycle? Like from 2 hours to 1 hour? Maybe make it 2 tiers and make it down to 0.5 as well?

[steady trail]

Were you using CustomTranslatorChar mod? I know that one prevents any of the commands from working.
I don't know if there's a new one.

[steady trail]

Either it's erroring out when it grabs the item, leading to the update happening twice on grab and then only once when dropped or it's being called twice "normally" when grabbing and not being called twice "normally" when dropped.

Because the weight is only updated when grabbing/dropping stuff, not constantly.

[steady trail]

Spawn cycle?

[frail briar]

There is a 2 hour spawn cycle for mobs, meaning that a reduction will make monsters (re)spawn faster

Its mostly that quantum disruptor makes the day a lot longer, but also a lot longer between spawns

[sacred zinc]

There is an additional mode for Quantum disruptor where it gives you a command to go back in time, it keep the spirit of making the day longer but does not reduce the spawn rate

Hi @steady trail, you spoke some time ago about a refactoring for variables to not create conflict with other mods for stamina for example, is it currently live in the latest version or is it something coming later ?

[steady trail]

Later.

Still need to fix my mental state then I will look at this.

[sacred zinc]

Thank you for the quick response, take care

[frail briar]

I know, but thanks for making sure in case i did not :)
Regardless, reducing the spawn cycle time could be fun even with normal time, since it would more or less make mobs respawn instantly from what i understand, at least if one thinks fighting mobs is fun

[little mortar]

I'm saying i can visually see it go onto the counter, then fly back into my inventory. It might not be because of late game upgrades. Might be for one of the fixes that helps pick up items in doorways.

[mossy nebula]

Does anyone know why my upgrades after buying them reset after a while, that is, I buy an upgrade, I go through some moons, and then it resets in the computer, I still have the upgrade but it comes out as if I didn't have it which means that I have to buy again level 1 of "x" upgrade even if I have it

[sacred zinc]

you can load a lategame upgrades save through the terminal

type lategame to see the command

This might solve your issue

There might be a conflict with another mod that overwrite some values, hard to say without a log and/or the code for your modpack

[keen shoal]

ways to fix this happening in multiplayer ? for the host it's fine but the clients have this issue

[sacred zinc]

You have the parameter enabled to share all upgrades to all players ? Never had the issue myself

[keen shoal]

yeah I did

I've always had this issue

like they work and all but everytime we leave and rejoin, the clients dosen't see the bought upgrades

other and the host

[sacred zinc]

Probably an issue with another mod ? Not sure

[keen shoal]

must be unlucky because I've played with many and less mods and this always happend to me

[warped osprey]

Got an issue with the quantum disruptor upgrade

SlowDownTime mode just flat out doesnt work, i did edit the time via a config mod, but even when undoing that and changing time from fixed back to balanced it still just did nothing

and RevertTime mode just decides to take a day off of our quota for no apparent reason

any ways to fix that? i'm assuming the second issue would be easier to fix as the first is probably some incompatibility i cant see

[sacred zinc]

I also encountered the issue with losing a day for the quota, I didn't realize it could be linked to RevertTme mode but I did change to this mode just before the issue happened. The issue only happened once though in my case, is it also the same for you ?

Seems like you have a mod that modify time speed. Even if you keep that mod to a config where the time is the same, if this mod modify the same variable as Lategame Upgrades for the time speed, what could happen is :

• Quantum Disruptor slows down the time
• Your other mod changes back the time flow to "normal"

[steady trail]

1st is "fixed".
2nd, I know the issue, I just don't know if the fix is sufficient and not cause troubles on other fronts due to miscalculations.

(It's not "for no apparent reason", quota time and global time are interconnected thus anything that messes with one must mess with the other correctly)

[warped osprey]

it happens every time i've used it without fail

[warped osprey]

well its not like i know much about the game's code

all i can see is "unrelated mechanic is affected by unrelated mechanic" so i cannot really suddenly know the reason behind it.

[steady trail]

I understand that.

[warped osprey]

Yeah it is probably down to order of operation

that's why im set on using RevertTime since it solves the parity issue, but then we lose a day of quota and that is just... annoying to say the least

[steady trail]

It's just an annoyance reading something saying they want something fixed while saying useless remarks.
Just state what's broken, when is broken and I will look at it.

[warped osprey]

this also means that the config api i use is coded pretty badly

cause a similar issue happened with weight reduction where lethalprogression messed with it and so did LGU, but when i disabled lethal progression's upgrade then LGU could do its thing

so this means that even at default time speed the config mod somehow decides to override the time with the default time... for whatever reason

its an interesting thing

[vocal anvil]

time speed can fuck with quota days

its a basegame issue

[warped osprey]

Yeah i figured as much by now

[warped osprey]

it was 4 words at the end of a sentence., but i understand it might be annoying to read non-essential information

[steady trail]

It doesn't really matter the length. I just care about what I have to do stuff.

I had sentences which are pretty much empty.

[warped osprey]

I try to structure my sentneces in a way that conveys the most information per word given
However speech patterns are also to take into consideration, little habits which are hard to pay attention to. But from now on whenever reporting bugs here i will try to keep watch of that as well.

[sacred zinc]

You don't "have" to do anything, we all appreciate the time and effort you give for this mod, thank you very much and don't sweat it too much if some things are broken, this is part of the invisible contract between modders and players, we know that we won't always have a smooth experience. From my side this contributes to the charm of the modding scene 🥰

[warped osprey]

i agree with this statement

one does not have to do anything as a modder, just making a mod alone is already enough of a contribution as is, let alone maintaining one as complex as this one.

[sacred zinc]

Just want to take the occasion to add that I'm really impressed by the level of overall polish of this mod, between the quality of life in the menus and GUI to the items description and very customizable config file. I'm a huge nerd for numbers and I'm having a blast, best mod of my mod pack

With my mate we tried a little bit of all playstyles: lot of levels for the upgrades but cheaper and with less impact, higher priced upgrades but that stay between the games.. And since you added additional modes for some upgrades we can really try a lot of different playstyles

[warped osprey]

i have to say the mod wen far since i last used it indeed
the new ui, and the upgrades actually saying what they do instead of autopurchasing on using their command (or i nthis case clicking)

so yeah, i'd say the mod works pretty great

[warped osprey]

is there any way to make the night vision goggles rechargable like the flashlight?

[steady trail]

Right now, no.

It's just its own thing, last I checked.

[warped osprey]

I see, this should be a feature under a mode/setting
kinda like we have the two modes for the quantum disruptor

[warped osprey]

post the new update any and all items i pick up suddenly wiegh specifically 105 LBS

it is tied to the weight reduction upgrade

[steady trail]

Looked at and fixed.

I will wait longer for more.

[warped osprey]

Alright. when can i expect the fix to be pushed out at the latest?

[sacred zinc]

At the latest 🥰

[livid sorrel]

for this new upgrade system, can an item only contribute to an upgrade once or like if I set batteries toward the lithium batteries upgrade will I get credit to it every single time I sell a battery

also, if I set an item to count toward the progression of two upgrades will it contribute to them both equally?

[steady trail]

Probably later this night.

[steady trail]

On game boot, items are assigned to upgrades and remain like that to that game.
If you make a new save, it will have a different set of attributions.

Whenever the item is sold, it will always contribute. There's no cap of item contribution.

[steady trail]

It will pick the last upgrade it was configured so. I didn't consider more than one upgrade.

[livid sorrel]

cool, thanks for the update, it's a really cool system 😄 I'm writing up my configs for it now

so for now I'll make sure an item only contributes to one upgrade

[warped osprey]

so im guessing with the new item progression system, an upgrade being automatically "purchased" means it is bought with no cost to the players if it mets the specific criteria

[steady trail]

Yeah, it's like a discount when you bring items for the upgrades.
Slowly decreases the price til it reaches 0 to then reset the amount you contributed for it.

This for the uhhh.

Scrap modes.

[warped osprey]

Hmm i see, would there be a way to disable regular prices and only allow for this mode of obtaining the upgrades? also will you think of perhaps adding in the option to have one scrap item work on multiple upgrade sas suggested previously?

[steady trail]

One item for all should be possible, I would need to check.
For the disable, I would just need to know how you want the shop to look like when in that setting.

[thorny ferry]

so somethings been happening to my game ever since the update

everything on the my other save weighs 105 pounds (keys,rubber ducks, radar boosters,etc) and when I make a new save it's normal but the gravity on moons is somehow more intense (I jump less higher and just jumping can sometimes does heavy fall damage)

[steady trail]

I know the 105 pound thing.

The gravity one is curious.

I don't think I changed alot in the Strong Legs department.

And it shouldn't reduce your jump force anyways.

[thorny ferry]

Heres the thing,that was in the new save (the gravity). And when I tried jumping off the ships platform in assurance after it fully landed, I took a ton of fall damage (somewhat close to critical)

[steady trail]

Oh.

Apparently I missed one?

Umm no, it's in both.

So it should still work correctly.

And I don't think you can manage to put negative jump force either because it's always clamped to the default value of player's vanilla jump force.

Or well, whatever the value is currently used at the time anyways.

[warped osprey]

Basically the shop would just list all upgrades, and either keep the dots as a level indicator or switch to a "LV: X" system.

internally speaking levels would still be determined by price, however in this mode you just cant buy them and can only contribute by having specific scrap be deposited, meaning that you might prioritize a big bolt over a mask because the big bolt contributes a bit to faster landing and cheaper travels.

when clicking on an upgrade it could show the current level, what the upgrade does, and progress to next level either via a progress bar with amount of credits next to it or just the amount of credits

that would be my idea

[warped osprey]

also i meant moreso this, where you said you hadn't considered wanting more than one upgrade, i was asking if that will be a feature at some point as well. i may have worded it wrongly

[steady trail]

I don't really mind doing it for more, it's user configuration. If you want more options, I will provide as best as I can.

For the shop, it's close to what I was thinking.
I was thinking having the same screen but without the greyed thing and when selecting, you would still see the same thing but the "prompt" would be something like "you need x more amount of scrap value to upgrade this".

[warped osprey]

I see, that is a very good approach to have.

[steady trail]

Progress bar is difficult because I'm limited in the amount of characters I can use per line.

(This assuming I can make a decent one)

[warped osprey]

Yep basically

we could have two modes here as well, based on scrap value or based on scrap amount

so a player could configure "you need 2 big bolts and 1 robot toy for better zap guns" or "you need 500 value of scrap for better zap gun" or both or either

[steady trail]

Hm, amount.

[warped osprey]

I see, never knew that.

I mean one could accomplish it by using those unicode box characters, and having 10 of them. though at the same time we can just ignore the progress bar as at the end of the day it isn't really adding anything useful except a different visual representation

[steady trail]

Yeah, it's just something pretty at that point because you already had the information shown before.

[warped osprey]

Yeah, that's why at the end of the day that part of the suggestion quite literally doesnt matter. it is a nice-to-have not a necesity.

[steady trail]

The amount might be difficult because I need to store it and then not be drastically changing it when "purchasing" upgrades.

And this assumes that the data pass is working correctly right now.

Because I had some changes on that aspect.

[warped osprey]

I see
well if it is too much of a challenge that can be put off until a less intensive period and then thought of again, or it could be scrapped alltogether

[steady trail]

I'm gonna have family break on July so I don't have much time right now.

Just fixes and tweaks for now.

[warped osprey]

also i am sorry to ask this again as i had forgot what you said
but will you add the option to make the Night vision headset rechargable like a flashlight, and maybe make the recharging battery a seperate upgrade as an upgrade mode?

[warped osprey]

That is quite alright
i am just dropping suggestions for at some point

the more suggestions the more customizable the mod, the more customizable the mod, the more everyone wins

but dont stress out over it, at the end of the day all of this is basically charity work, and amazing quality of work in any case. you are doing amazing as is.

[steady trail]

That will probably need to mess with the whole internal of it so right now I'm not so sure if I am gonna be able to do that.

Because it was built in a weird way at the time and I wasn't around when it was finished.

[warped osprey]

Hm i see, that is alright.

Again do not stress over it.

[tawdry wadi]

@steady trail It sounds like @loud radish was experiencing some issues with the new LGU update as well, are the features causing issues currently able to be disabled?

[steady trail]

Depends on the issues.

Most of it was toggled off.

[tawdry wadi]

He said items were weighing more than usual

[steady trail]

Ah that

Uhh.

What time is it...

9 PM, I guess I can push the fix now.

[tawdry wadi]

👍

I'm glad you already were aware of it

XD

[warped osprey]

Yeah i think like 5 seperate people told them

[tawdry wadi]

😆

[steady trail]

Lemme check git if there's any other issues..

[tawdry wadi]

New bugs get widespread reported

[steady trail]

No, it's just the weight one.

Because the other mode cannot have a value of 0 as it would break so I used the same method for both with value of 1.

The problem with that is that 1 is considered 100lb.

[median egret]

thank you zeekers

[loud radish]

KEK

[tawdry wadi]

☠️

[warped osprey]

that is... a weird way of having that coded...

[steady trail]

It's fine.

[tawdry wadi]

Zeekerss moment

[median egret]

and the default value of scrap multiplier is 0.4

[loud radish]

was gonna say, i have a BIT of a gut, but i aint THAT heavy

[median egret]

and the teleporter price is hardcoded into the game LOL

[steady trail]

Being 100lb or any other value would still be considered wrong.

[warped osprey]

accurate, isn't the call ship from spectators function also just one that changes the time to 10 pm for a split milisecond before changing it back, instead of calling the script directly (that's what my friend mario said at least)

[steady trail]

I just got lucky that it gave a big number to be noticed.

[warped osprey]

i-
i am confused currnetly

[median egret]

it's soooo bad

[warped osprey]

holy-

[tawdry wadi]

Game code go brrrr

[warped osprey]

Also onto that i am pretty sure the skybox and ingame in level timer are not tied whatsoever

[steady trail]

It's fine.

Considering that I have read worse, it's mostly fine.

Ok, it's uploading now.

Til you wait the update, the back muscles alternative mode should work correctly for now.

Only downside is that you will have weight affect your stamina regen instead (speed remains the same behaviour).

[warped osprey]

Hmm, i dont quite understand how that works but it is most definitely better than having 105 pounds per item. so i'd say its an adequate fix for now at least.

[steady trail]

Soo

Depending on your weight, you use more stamina and run slower.

I just got rid of the "run slower" part in the alternative mode..

[warped osprey]

I see, and the stamina part is still there.
that feels a tiny bit strange but again its better than the previous bugged state.

[steady trail]

Well, that's the only use of weight right now.

Use more stamina and run slower.

So I added a mode instead of getting rid of both, only remove the slow part.

I can make another mode for other one if people want.

[warped osprey]

I feel like going the mode where we can select one, the other or both would be the better idea.

[steady trail]

Uhh.

Probably.

I would just need more transpilers for that.

I just don't know the name for the stamina mode right now.

I'm not that creative.

[warped osprey]

mode = "encumberance" (the speed penalty for stamina), "strain" (weight value), "both"

those would be my names, a bit fancy but meh, i'm not one to give simple ideas

[steady trail]

Strain for stamina?
Otherwise I don't know what you mean by "weight value" because changing it already affects both things.

I also forgot to update the info when using modes, oops.

[warped osprey]

Yeah sorry had a minor brainfart. I meant for stamina

[livid sorrel]

hiya 😄 how does the mod work now that multiple upgradescan have the same scrap put toward their progression? when you sell the scrap does it just add to every upgrade? does it split among them? or does it just choose one?

[warped osprey]

that is actually a valid question

i feel like it would make the most sense to split it amongst them

[warped osprey]

can someone give me a random colour that isnt red, yellow blue or green?

[livid sorrel]

periwinkle

[warped osprey]

I just realized i asked in the wrong chat but thanks nonetheless

[untold dirge]

hi

i can't find config files

is there configs files ?

oh nvm i find it just the name is different

[steady trail]

The first.

[thorny ferry]

anyone know how to fix the high gravity bug

because like I noticed I jump much less higher and just normal jumping from normal non damaging heights somehow does more damage

downgraded the mod to 3.7.2 and the bug is gone

[steady trail]

This didn't seem to catch fire when booting on v55.

[weak carbon]

always a good sign

[tight lichen]

afaik it was just the cruiser and a few new entities so hopefully porting to new ver will be smooth?

[steady trail]

They were a couple minor code changes in other aspects as well

But at first glance, they shouldn't affect much.

[dense idol]

well I can tell you interning broke lol

[tawdry wadi]

@steady trail just wanted to let you know the transpiler for the dropship leaving faster after opening the doors is broken in V55, but it delivers fast as it should

[steady trail]

Ah, they removed the if.

[steady trail]

So it's likely that it ended up in one of the ifs related to vehicle stuff.

Though the better choice would be to make a derived item drop ship rather than make the generalized item dropship more specific but ehh.

[steady trail]

I managed a fix and at first glance shouldn't compromise between versions.

[mortal berry]

Should we expect new upgrades for the cruiser? Or at least a toolkit to repair it? (Like the medkit)

[steady trail]

If demand is there for them, sure.
Would just need to know what exactly people want from them.

[mortal berry]

Personally, I'd like an upgrade that would change its shift from stick to auto and thus, improving the controls and removing the need to manually shift between drive and reverse.

Or, you know just an upgrade to its health is suitable so it doesn't explode after two crashes at moderate speeds

[dawn phoenix]

you could always just give it more health yeah

[dawn phoenix]

offroad tires? 👀

[celest quest]

not reporting an issue or anything but really funny. we just wanted to play a quick round, updated all mods in my pack without checking. Landed, went inside and there were like dozens of lgu events lol
ritual with a pc and bomb and a lost employee. Next room, another bomb, hoarding bug eggs, another employee. Probably hundreds of Ritual items and medikits. Insanity lol
but I saw lgu throwing a bunch of errors during patching so I'm gonna hav to investigate haha

[steady trail]

Mine doesn't though.

[dense idol]

I've personally had no issues on v55 with it outside of intern not working lol

[steady trail]

Ah, probably because there's a field that was removed in v55..

[dense idol]

We like to intern because it prevents us from losing 30k+ in fees due to somebody dying even when recovering the body lmao

[tawdry wadi]

Yay so fix is gonna be coming soon? c;

[steady trail]

Not sure.

[tawdry wadi]

I mean if it will work with both V50 and V55 it should be fine

[steady trail]

That needs me in the computer.

[tawdry wadi]

lol

[untold dirge]

I want an option for the medkit that change how it work, you cannot heal yourself you have to heal other players with it so you cannot heal solo and a player can play the medic role

[warped osprey]

2.5k credits for a "transmission upgrade" which when used on the cruisers makes its controls more videogamee-y

this means that e still have the goofy truck normally but if we want to use it seriously e can have an easier variant that we actually know how to use, this means also that we have an actual cost to the easier steering unlike other mods hich just kinda give you it

800 credits "backshelves" upgrade which adds shelves to the truck, allowing you to place items onto them like the closet in the ship, a bit useless but also aesthetic and letting you put items up vertically, which could look better to some people.

(i dont know if the truck breaks down during floods but if it does)
1k credits "waterproofing upgrade" which prevents damage from floods as long as it isnt above the entire truck (if water gets in the cabin the player will still drown)

500 credits "subsurface cabin" which prevents water from getting into the cabin

1k credits "ship teleporter" which places a teleporter on the ground that lets players, and only players, quickly teleport to the ship fro mthe truck. Might be yuseful to escape monsters

these prices are probably hella off, but i usually play with such mod configurations where these should be achievable within 1 to 2 quotas

then of course we have the classics like "more speed", "more health", "tires with more grip"

as for repairing the truck, even though it makes no sense the nmedkit item could be called "Gas can"

[sacred zinc]

I think we should wait for full release of V55, balancing of the cruiser will definitely change in the next patches

[warped osprey]

Yeah thats definitely fair
though i doubt any controls will change, and i doubt shelves will be added so those upgrades are probably fine as they are

the rest we should hold off on

[keen shoal]

I mean, we can already just drop the stuff in the truck and they go with it, right ?

also I don't really like the idea of "simpler controls", the janky controls definitively fits better for lethal company

[keen shoal]

yeah, makes no sense lol

An idea I have is an upgrade that slowly repairs it when attached to the magnet

[warped osprey]

they do in fact fit with lethal company, yes

however some things, whi;lst funny, are also just plain annoying

example being the steeringwheel position not resetting, is it realistic? sure. is it funny? hell yeah. is it annoying? you betcha.

the other parts of simpler controls would be interesting as an option, especially for this mod even if the upgrade is off by default, because i assume this would be the noly mod to implement simple controls for a price rather than just as a default feature.

[warped osprey]

I dunno how worth it that is in all honesty

unless you have time dialation mods (or well i guess the quantum drive) it would probably take too much time to attach the truck to the magnet just to repair it, especially since it already auto repairs in orbit anyway

[keen shoal]

yeah

simply a more durable van upgrade can do the job

[keen shoal]

you just gotta get the hang of it, it's not like you're gonna be driving it 24/7

such upgrade wouldn't be worth it for the little time you're gonna be using it

[warped osprey]

Personally i would be using it a lot more than you'd think, especially with how my modpacks are layed out

and you are right on the "getting the hang of it" aspect, but at the same time, if it's a possibility to have an upgrade to make it simpler, might as well do so. It's not taking away from anything since it can just be disabled if you don't like it, same with your magnet idea.

at the end of the day, depending on the workload and prioritization of the developers of course, any upgrade can/should be added as long as it doesnt mess with too many things or is too complicated.

[keen shoal]

After all, it all depends on the player liking

[warped osprey]

in general though the steering upgrade isn't as necessary as one would imagine, just a QOL thing more than anyhting.

its the other upgrades that im more interested about

[keen shoal]

it steers way to tightly if you're not careful enough lol

[warped osprey]

Yeah-

i in general have issues with driving any sorta cars and the whole realistic system is even crazier tbh

[keen shoal]

A more realistic car was definitively something I needed

[warped osprey]

it fits lethal company, that's for sure
but it doesnt fit my personal playstyle of trying to use all tools as efficiently as possible

[keen shoal]

something that could be pretty cool for the truck would be to upgrade it from something different, like maybe a pannel in the trunk or an upgrade station at the company building

although it would be really tricky to do and it definitively won't be as changing as just being on the terminal

[warped osprey]

i feel like replacing the window to the back with a small terminal screen, or maybe putting a screen above the glass would be good

this is actually ana mazing suggestion, that way players dont upgrade the truck before owning the truck

also it just feels.... right in a way

[keen shoal]

maybe not replace the windows ?

[warped osprey]

i mean the truck is by all means a seperate vehicle, only makes sense to have a seperate upgrade screen

[warped osprey]

Yeah, that was just a random suggestion

[keen shoal]

a pannel at the bottom of the window would be better

[warped osprey]

but the monitor should definitely be in front of the truck, accessible from the front

maybe on the dashboard actually?

[keen shoal]

Something that should be accounted is that if the truck would to have upgrade it could potentially have abilities that could trigger with an input

would everything be happening on the monitor similar to the discombobulator ?

[warped osprey]

designate the inputs to the non-driver

maybe have physical buttons or keyboard inputs

either that or have it be on the terminal inside the truck like you suggested

we could have some silly shit like a jump ability

[keen shoal]

yeah

[warped osprey]

i have this image in my head

pov: on march

"DUDE DUDE WE'RE GONNA CRASH INTO THE LAKE!!"

"not on my watch" actives jump ability

actually
idea comes to mind

as one of the truck abilities, instead of a jump ability what if we just strap a freaking jetpack to it?

have it so like, there is a button on the non-driver side that they can activate, which will then trigger the release of jetpack fuel, which will either slow the fall, or potentially even lift the truck up if done enough

just like regular jetpacks it can overheat and explode the truck, in which case you have to re-buy the truck

but it could be useful overall

how would one recharge this? add a charger to the ship which when in use disable the electricity, including doors, on the entire ship. you would use it by grabbing the front, by whcih point a cable extends from it and then putting it into a port on the outside of the truck. then going back and pressing a button to start/stop charging.

the charger itself, if left out of the truck whilst charging, will be able to electrocute both players and enemies as well, so its a bit more alive than just "specific tool for this specific job"

one issue comes to mind immediately: editing the ship model is a pain and potentially very non-friendly to other mods

[celest quest]

So far I narrowed it down to LGU 3.8.0 or greater. Going back to 3.7.2 no issues. The first errors are thrown when other mods are doing their patching I think.
Attached log if you wanna take a look at it.
I guess LGU field patching conflicts with AC field patching and then stuff in LGU breaks..

[steady trail]

Yeah, it seems some fields are replaced by AC's

Don't know if being LGU first to patch would fix the issue though.

[keen shoal]

An hovertruck upgrade would be insane

[warped osprey]

Yeah, i really love the idea, though making it require two players and make it strain the engine, thus giving use to for example: engine upgrades, would balance it well

that's why i kinda like the jetpack idea for it
maybe just instead of a jetpack it could be replaced with that hover mode

[keen shoal]

like it hovers above the grounds, can steer on place and falls slowly
also gets back upright by itself

also it wouldn't be cheap

[warped osprey]

Obviously

[warped osprey]

add in an ability for the second player in the truck to be able to strain the engine to make it fly up slightly and its perfect

[keen shoal]

while making sure it dosen't explode

OH

something that would be a lot more interesting

is for the upgrades to only apply on the current vehicle

[warped osprey]

mmhmm! that along with the charging mechanic and requiring 2 peopel for the fly mode would balance it pretty well

[keen shoal]

to encourage you to be extra careful with it

(the upgrades are cheaper on the way)

[warped osprey]

hmmm
that might get annoying quickly

[warped osprey]

i'd only agree with this if you could rebuy the truck with the upgrades or otherwise they were discounted by 75% when re-buying them

kinda like the truck waranty in the game

[keen shoal]

yeah, seems right

[warped osprey]

i think that is the best compromise
if you have an insanely upgraded truck it would still be a hug epenalty to lose it, but it wouldnt be as devastating as resetting the upgrades completely

[keen shoal]

you could pay an extra fee to get all the upgrades back

would encourage the players to keep a bit of extra cash in stock just in case

[keen shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256368756821725295/1256369615060209704/Lethal_Company_06-29-2024_0-1-7-429.mp4?ex=66827f22&is=66812da2&hm=7552c92aebe52046bbe4627ffbeb204804f5c67216de65e02898d0ed8ff0f60f&

minor annoyance

[warped osprey]

that could also be a good idea

if you dont pay the fee tyhe upgrades cost 75% of their regular value, but if you do pay the extra fee they only cost 25% of their value in total

meaning either way they are cheaper but its hundreds of times more efficient to pay the fee

[keen shoal]

although it would be valid only the day after the truck has been destroyed, before ordering it

[warped osprey]

yeah, if you rebuy the truck later it is like you're rebuying it without the upgrade fee

[warped osprey]

that's almost as bad as that one time my friend launched me into the ocean at company building

https://medal.tv/it/games/lethal-company/clips/iax4UoAhNb7wr7EVl/d1337wItxbro?invite=cr-MSxLWE4sMjA4Nzc3OTcyLA

[keen shoal]

I've made a whole ass montage of the play session, poor truck never made it past 12 am

[warped osprey]

WAIT THIS GIVES ME AN IDEA FOR AN UGPRADE

safety ejector

only works for 1 ejection

but it negates all fall damage and lets you slightly control where you fall

[keen shoal]

parachute

[warped osprey]

honestly i wish i was a part of that playsession
it seemed fun and chaotic

[warped osprey]

yeah exactly

[keen shoal]

the montage goes wild

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFniqVnL6o8

[warped osprey]

ONG
i never have that much funny stuff happen to me with my friends, even on modded

[warped osprey]

this montage has brightened up my day immensely but also made me realize i need more goofy shit happening in my games

[keen shoal]

we were like 8, that's why it was so fun

try to gather as many friends lol

even try outsiders

just like i am lol

[warped osprey]

i dont have friends :3

[keen shoal]

:(

[warped osprey]

no like genuine i only know 2 people who own the game
one of them would rather play roblox, and the other (the guy who's clip i sent of launching me into orbit) only is on like an hour a day

[keen shoal]

but honestly the truck was the center of the fun

[warped osprey]

yeah thats fair

where do i even look for ppl to play with?
Like is there a channel on this server or something?

[keen shoal]

dark place travellers have on

[warped osprey]

?

[keen shoal]

the discord server of zeekers

[warped osprey]

is that the name of the server?

nvm found it

[keen shoal]

btw is lgu functionnal on v55 ?

[steady trail]

From what I have seen being reported, most of the functionalities run correctly.

There may be some animation issue when using intern and died while driving but that will be solved when v55 is officially released.

[stark monolith]

is the intern not working fixed? didnt see that in the changelog

[steady trail]

I don't know.

I removed the field that wasn't allowing to compile which was on Interns.

Now if that was the thing that was causing the issue, I'm not sure.

[stark monolith]

ok ill see what happens!

[dense idol]

the truck already has shelves to place items on lol

[steady trail]

As in interactable ones or just drop on them and hope it lands on them?

[dense idol]

interactable ones

[steady trail]

Hm oki oki.

Yeah, last I checked I wasn't getting a prompt so I'm not sure what happened there.

[dense idol]

just booted up my game to check with my mods and all 5 shelves work all the way across so that's quite a lot of space lol

[fluid river]

The LightningRod upgrade doesn't seems to work on my modpack

[warped osprey]

i never noticed them

[warped osprey]

i played around some more with the truck and yeah i genuinely cannot see the shelves
probably just my brightness settings though

OH WAIT
UPGRADE IDEA:

PAINT THE CRUISER
both the outside and inside with different colours

[keen shoal]

I Haven't tested spray on it, i'm curious to see if it works correctly

[keen shoal]

It should rather be it's own mod

[warped osprey]

Fair

[knotty island]

whenever i enable lategame and try to start a save I get this screen and cant move/open menu, any ideas? ive tried reinstalling, downgrading required mods, etc.

[steady trail]

Give me the LogOutput.log file from BepInEx folder.

[knotty island]

sorry didn't see this!

[knotty island]

for reference my enabled mods are these

[knotty island]

oh sorry also these

[steady trail]

The errors I'm seeing is MoreCompany due to not finding the requested method and some mod missing to find the dungeon flow from RoundManager.

What version of the game is this being run on?

[knotty island]

newest beta, v55

when lategame upgrades is disabled everything works fine and when it's enabled by itself it works fine so it must be an incompatibility

[steady trail]

Ah, I missed the error on LateCompany boot.

But turning it off doesn't seem to help.

[knotty island]

i figured it out

disabling latecompany fixed it

i think its an issue with how morecompany, latecompany and lategame upgrades interact in some way

tysm for the help im not too attached to keeping latecompany on like I am with this mod

[steady trail]

[Error  : Unity Log] MissingMethodException: Method not found: void GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.KillPlayer(UnityEngine.Vector3,bool,CauseOfDeath,int)
Stack trace:
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::TeleportPlayer>?-983643908(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB,UnityEngine.Vector3,bool,single,bool,bool)
MoreCompany.MainClass.ResizePlayerCache (System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue] ScenePlacedObjects) (at D:/VisualStudioProjects/MoreCompany/MoreCompany/MainClass.cs:270)
MoreCompany.ScenePlacedObjectsInitPatch.Postfix (System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[System.UInt32,System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[System.Int32,Unity.Netcode.NetworkObject]]& ___ScenePlacedObjects) (at D:/VisualStudioProjects/MoreCompany/MoreCompany/MainClass.cs:436)
(wrapper dynamic-method) Unity.Netcode.NetworkSceneManager.DMD<Unity.Netcode.NetworkSceneManager::PopulateScenePlacedObjects>(Unity.Netcode.NetworkSceneManager,UnityEngine.SceneManagement.Scene,bool)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSceneManager.OnSceneLoaded (System.UInt32 sceneEventId) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0067)
Unity.Netcode.SceneEventProgress.<SetAsyncOperation>b__37_0 (UnityEngine.AsyncOperation asyncOp2) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0012)
UnityEngine.AsyncOperation.InvokeCompletionEvent () (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_000F)

@raven ibex I don't know if this is worrisome but errors are considered bad in my book so there ya go. (v55)

[knotty island]

nvm, getting the error again while latecompany is uninstalled

when I strictly have lategame upgrades, morecompany and the mods required, things work fine, so i'll do some more testing

figured it out

for real this time

its LethalThings

latecompany, morecompany and lategame upgrades play nice together, lethalthings doesnt for some reason

[knotty island]

LC Office (https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Piggy/LC_Office/) also seems to cause this bug

[warped osprey]

Afaik i hadnt had this bug with this mod, but that was a couple days ago with v50

[knotty island]

yeah i think its a v55 thing

[warped osprey]

Makes the most sense

[golden axle]

wrong channel oops

[dense idol]

can confirm it works

[dense idol]

It would be nice if doing contract without specifying a moon gave you a confirmation window

[fluid river]

Is there a way to make the Contract always random?

Or without needing to have the selection

Also, some Contract ítem price doesn't seems to sync to all the players, I had that issue with the exorsysm book

[dense idol]

you can just type contract and it's random

[fluid river]

And in case you didn't saw this before, the lighting Rod upgrade doesn't seems to work on my modpack

[fluid river]

I see, is there a way to disable the other "contracts" to not let the confirmation menu to appear

[steady trail]

Do people not want conf when selecting random?

I can just remove it I guess.

And yeah, I read the lightning rod one.

Just busier with refactoring.

[dense idol]

When I've been playing just doing contract doesn't give us a confirm and we use it to check what our current contract is but sometimes we end up just getting a random contract and it's kind of annoying lol

[steady trail]

I tend to keep old stuff when making new stuff in case it stops working.

[warped osprey]

I want conf.

[steady trail]

Though I guess I can now remove the old thing if there are no more issues.

[dense idol]

I think just having a confirm on contract would be nice so we don't just have to go to like Vow instead of art lol

[steady trail]

Don't have that problem if you can't access contract though, haha

Only contracts or whatever keyword the new UI was again.

[steady trail]

@median egret

[gusty flint]

thats quite the gap

[steady trail]

It is, yeah.

At least it makes this somewhat more readable.

And it's easier to spot wrong assignments (when you're just making copy pastes)

[gusty flint]

too

many

capital

letters

[steady trail]

Lol.

[keen shoal]

isn't this on the mod's page outdated ?

Because that's the old Fast Encryption effect

wait the whole mod's page is outdated :v

[steady trail]

Ah.

That's..

Yeah, I guess it says chat.

It's a long page to track of and some stuff may be forgotten.

[median egret]

🥹 so clean

[steady trail]

Well yeah

That's just consts and static readonlys

[fluid river]

Thanks and sorry :']

[steady trail]

https://github.com/Malcolm-Q/LC-LateGameUpgrades/issues/500

[median egret]

500? 😳

[fluid river]

got it, thanks!

[steady trail]

Oh, yeah.

[median egret]

damn

[gusty flint]

nono, its 5oo

its like

a fun way of saying 5

[steady trail]

Though like.

[gusty flint]

lategame upgrades is a fairly small mod, idk where you'd get 500

[steady trail]

PRs also count.

[gusty flint]

in issues?

[steady trail]

They use the same counter.

[median egret]

in numbering, yeah

[gusty flint]

oh my

[median egret]

PR is a different type of issue

[gusty flint]

that is quite the number of PR's

[steady trail]

Because mine were like commits.

Til I took over so it went to releases.

[gusty flint]

oh lmao

[steady trail]

Oh right, you exists.

I completely forgot about you, haha.

[median egret]

😳

i do not want to look at merge conflicts 😂

[steady trail]

Should be fine.

[median egret]

🤭

[steady trail]

Nice.

[median egret]

i've cherrypicked like 10 commits to main 😥

it's a future me problem

[steady trail]

Technically I'm also doing to main?

Though I have to make a PR at the end so it's technically a branch.

Lol.

[median egret]

yeaah

i have separate branches for "normal" version and beta

and i've cherrypicked some stuff into main

because 🤷

[steady trail]

Anyways, time to experiment and then play some RE later, I guess.

[gusty flint]

RE?

[steady trail]

Resident Evil.

[median egret]

resident evil?

[gusty flint]

ah

im waiting for that coderebirth full refactor 🤭

jkjk

[steady trail]

Uhh.

Maybe..

Tomorrow?

Pops still needs me today for stuff so I'm not sure.

I would say that

Then again, I have no donation link in the TS page so it makes look like an idiot.

[median egret]

where's the money, Lebowski?

[median egret]

yet

[steady trail]

No.

No yet.

[median egret]

alrighty

[steady trail]

This is more a hobby rather than freelancing anyways, lol.

[median egret]

that's absolutely fair

[steady trail]

Kinda hilarious it lets me do that.

[steady trail]

The modes seem to work correctly.

Hm yes, I agree.

So yeah, it seems functional.

[steady trail]

https://github.com/Malcolm-Q/LC-LateGameUpgrades/issues/501

[sick falcon]

Does anyone have a full list of what each upgrade does?

Info command doesn't work

[humble panther]

umm just go 'lgu' and select the upgrade itll tell u what they do

[sick falcon]

Oh

Dam

Am dum

Thx

[livid sorrel]

would there be a way to make the scrap insurance scale with the amount of scrap currently on the ship?

[steady trail]

At the time of the purchase?

[livid sorrel]

yeah. like have the cost be a percentage of the scrap value on your ship

might be much easier said than done, just a thought I had

[steady trail]

Well, it should be a one-time search for all items you have in the ship, grab their values and compute the desired result.

So on first glance, it shouldn't be that difficult and not be that heavy to do.

Only issue is that it would need a confirmation prompt.

[livid sorrel]

will the latest version of this still work on v50?

[steady trail]

3.9.0, no as it would patch stuff from latest v55 release.
3.8.1 or 3.8.2 would be your best bets for v50 friendly.

[bronze stone]

I have 3.9 installed but I dont have the option to type LGU for upgrades. Acts like its not loaded.

[bronze stone]

haha so it doesnt show in the terminal but all contracts were running, we ran into injured guy and the ritual at the same time on the very first moon.

[warm copper]

Out of curiosity, is it possible to make the terminal not case sensitive? I lost count how many times I've accidentally hit cap lock and didn't realize until I hit enter 😅

[vocal anvil]

The terminal is case sensitive?

[warm copper]

yep, it is. the lgu command only works in all lower caps. any capitals and it will not work

[steady trail]

That probably means changing the Interactive Terminal API things.

[steady trail]

If you can give me logs of when that happens, I can try looking at it.

[steady trail]

I got a functioning scenario so any prompts would still bring the interactive menu.
Only thing is that it's up to the person making the menu if they want the command to be case sensitive or not.

[warm copper]

That reminds me, I was going to ask since it seems that you're the one who who did the API, would it be possible to redo the moons page in a similar way as the LGU page?

[steady trail]

If it's possible, yes. It would just take some time to organize the things.

[warm copper]

hmm good to know. I'll have to look into it sometime. The way LGU handles everything is extremely clean and easy to read. When there's a lot of moons the list can be a bit long and cluttered

[humble panther]

that would be nice to have

[steady trail]

What people think of the uhhh Item Progression Route thing?
I made it for like two or three people so I don't have much feedback compared to other things (and even less since it's defaulted off lol)

[steady trail]

Only interesting things that I have right now is making randomized upgrades appear on the shop rather than the whole list (sort of like that one mod with moons) and allow users to configure what items are classified as "apparatus" due to custom interiors and specify how many upgrades it would give in the selected item progression mode.

[patent wagon]

honestly

I didn't understand much so I made it only apparatus

[steady trail]

Understandable

It is pretty complex mechanism compared to "buy to get"

Tried my best making somewhat readable in the config writing

Then again, I made the config possible to turn off everything in the mod, haha

[patent wagon]

yea

also

Since I think only LGU is the one its capable to do it;

I always loved these two mods;

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Ozone/Cabinet_Item_Storage/

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/BLKNeko/HookGun/

They are now buggy or just broken, I wonder if LGU would have stuff like these in future

[steady trail]

Well, it depends on how big they would be because I'm gonna be basically working on thesis for the next year so I might not have as much free time as before.

(plus the family vacation)

[sacred zinc]

Cabinet item storage is the best

[near mango]

how much health does the Cruiser have by default?

for reference with the Vehicle Plating upgrade

[steady trail]

Last I checked, 30.

Each bump takes off 1.

I think.

[near mango]

alright

[somber star]

How well do the car upgrades work with BetterVehicleControls?

[steady trail]

It only messes with attributes.

Out of my mind right now, carHP, engineTorque and ...

acceleration and turningSpeed

[near mango]

speaking of that mod, should pair well with CruiserImproved too?

[somber star]

Okay It should be fine then I think, just didn't know if it did anything else when it maxed an upgrade or something

[steady trail]

For now, it doesn't.

If people want something else to happen, they can just ask.

[somber star]

I'm not sure, I'd love to know tho. That mod also looks pretty good

Based of the features in it, I don't see why you couldn't also use it. But I haven't tested it or anything yet

Bruh

It'll be fine XD

[river dawn]

average cruiser experience

minus the exploding

[steady trail]

Hm damn, +324k -150k looks like big numbers for one project.

[warm copper]

I haven't had much time lately at all but I wanted to check out some of the alternative mods that were added to see how they work. When I get around to it I'll let you know what I think.

Speaking of LGU related requests, would it not be possible to get a random moon option? I only found 2 mods that do random moons. 1 no longer works and hasn't been updated in months, and the other one only does challenge moons.

Late game, I think it would be good to be able to buy the ability to go to any random moon for free. The catch is that the ship will instantly land there regardless of the weather (this can be an optional parameter) Can also add approved weather types as a parameter for customization.

[flint nebula]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Lega/CycleRandomizer/ sounds like you might have missed this one, but if you're wanting insta-landing, out of dice.

[warm copper]

Yeah the only one that supported instant landing doesn't work. However, I still think this would be a good thing to add to LGU as it's something that can be purchased or falla in line with the contracts and being able to bring people back

[steady trail]

There was one with insta landing?

[tight lichen]

noticed the alt progression mode, what does it change?

[steady trail]

Items contribute towards upgrades, dependant on the selected mode.

[tight lichen]

ohh, so collecting scrap has a chance of randomly upgrades something in the LGU menu?

[steady trail]

That's one of the modes, yes.

[tight lichen]

ah neat

any upgrades planned for the Cruiser at all?

[steady trail]

Theres:

• Apparatus, where each apparatus provides an upgrade (people suggested to allow them to specify what's an apparatus due to custom interiors having different notions of apparatus)
• RandomChance, where each item sold rolls a dice and if lucky, picks a upgrade based on the criteria chosen for it.
• UniqueScrap, where each item is randomly assigned an upgrade and the value (scrapValue * configured contribution multiplier) is added towards their chosen upgrade.
• CustomScrap, where your configuration of items assigned to each upgrade is used rather than randomly assigned.

[steady trail]

Right now, there's health, turning speed, maximum speed and acceleration.

[tight lichen]

increased max speed seems kinda dangerous for an upgrade

[steady trail]

It is.

[tight lichen]

thing's already a weapon to both sides x3

[steady trail]

Might aswell be there available than not. :D

[tight lichen]

suppose adding airbags to reduce driver collision damage could be neat

[steady trail]

Oh yeah.

I completely forgot that you take damage when bumping little bit too hard.

[tight lichen]

'cause it usually just explodes instead?

[steady trail]

No, because my brain defaults to toggle invic on on game boot

[tight lichen]

ohh

[steady trail]

Because randomly dying to enemy wasn't fun, lol.

[tight lichen]

fair enough

better keys to increase chance of successful startup could also be nice

[steady trail]

You can just reset the anim like 4 times.

It keeps adding 24 chance to it.

[tight lichen]

yea

[untold dirge]

hi why not adding parachute or glider item for making the eject button usefull ?

[hot fern]

Our car blew up like, 3 moons ago

Is this normal?

[dense idol]

turn the magnet off if it's on

fsr I've had it just keep the car attached for me no matter where it is lol, and it doesn't despawn if it's blown up and attached to the ship

[thin night]

Anyone having issues with Lategame upgrades? shows up in the terminal but when I type it in it won't bring me to it.

I'm pretty certain theres some other mod I have installed conflicting with it.

[thin night]

got it, it was Advanced Terminal API conflicting

[dense idol]

mechanical arms + strong legs has allowed me to do... this

[keen shoal]

well that's funny

[mortal berry]

Are mechanical arms working correctly with other mods? I remember it wasn't allowing items to be grabbed from extended ranges due to some other mod, I forgot which one it was though

[dense idol]

it was lethal things they broke with but that seems fixed

[flint nebula]

First time trying the lightning rod since the change, is it intentional that lightning strikes on the ship don't knock out the lights?

[steady trail]

Yes.

I remember there being a patch somewhere related to that, yes.

[flint nebula]

Wonderful, thanks for the confirmation.

[limpid blaze]

I cannot seem to get my upgrades to stay active between landings. I already tried deleting and remaking the config and uninstalling/reinstalling the mod. Any ideas?

this has persisted for our group since v49, one of our players is across the world in AUS while the rest of us are in US. and one of the players in the US has a poor internet connection. The upgrades stick between landings when its just me and my friend from the US with strong connection. not sure if thats relevant

[steady trail]

As in they don't save or the effects don't happen?

[flint nebula]

#1246312643514597386 message remembered this convo & wanted to pass the info along

[mortal berry]

I've never seen that before. Funny enough, I've sometimes had the opposite happen, where sometimes after deleting a save or being fired, some upgrades actually persist when they shouldn't, but that doesn't seem to happen anymore. That being a thing ever since v49 is even more of an anomaly, cause it sounds like it's not an issue with the mod.

I don't believe the players, where they connect from, and their connection quality matters too much, but I could be wrong on that front. Are you using any mods that alter your saves? More specifically, the number of saves you have? There was a mod that gave you practically infinite saves, BetterSaves I think it was

[limpid blaze]

The effects only last until the ship leaves a moon

[steady trail]

That sounds like something else is resetting some attribute.

I did only change that in like...

3.8.x?

[limpid blaze]

Must be Diversity in regards to movement speed after being injured

I’ll try that out

[mortal berry]

Ooh, Diversity sometimes doesn't play nice with other mods, and it did have issues with it from what I recall. Had to disable it myself.

[limpid blaze]

So just to double check, any mod that resets an attribute that Lategame Upgrades is also actively targeting will cause Lategame Upgrades to disable all the upgrades until I load the LGU save thru the terminal again?

[limpid blaze]

Yeah I may just have to disable all the Player settings in it. Kind of a bummer tho it’s the only reason I have it really

The enemy overhauls are whatever to me

[steady trail]

It shouldn't anymore.

[limpid blaze]

Oh

I wonder what the heck is going on then

[steady trail]

Any upgrade in specific?

[limpid blaze]

Yea the stamina and movement speed upgrades

[crimson quarry]

How to order a car when purchasing a "cruiser"
buying something other

[steady trail]

From what I have seen, typing "cruiser" should give you a prompt to purchase it.

Unless I'm misunderstanding what you are asking.

[limpid blaze]

Do you think if i got you a debug level log you might be able to spot why the upgrades are resetting?

[steady trail]

I don't think so because any mod is able to override the atributes they want.

[limpid blaze]

Hmmmmmmmm

[steady trail]

And they might have not decided to log that.

But it's odd that it's doing that with latest release of the mod.

Because in theory, unless the patches were not applied correctly and mods aren't changing mine specifically, it shouldn't keep resetting per moon landing.

I would understand not getting at all but now getting it before and then being gone is weird to happen.

[limpid blaze]

Yea it’s when you go back up to orbit and the game auto-saves

[steady trail]

Yeah, I don't remember being any kind of reset at that point.
There's only saving the relevant data unto the file.

[crimson quarry]

when i type "cruiser"

[steady trail]

And that's not what you want?

[crimson quarry]

yeap

[steady trail]

What do you want instead?

[crimson quarry]

car when added in new update

"cruiser" like a car

[steady trail]

I don't think vanilla added more vehicles besides the cruiser.

And I don't know if major APIs added ways to add vehicles for purchase yet.

[limpid blaze]

That’s what it is

It’s saying u can buy the car

[limpid blaze]

Alright while ur active im gonna download lethal company on my work laptop and make a list of any mod that can affect the same stats lmao

[crimson quarry]

i wanna this

[limpid blaze]

Be back

[steady trail]

Yeah, that's the "cruiser"

You can see it's name on top of the vehicle of this image as well.

[crimson quarry]

Oh but don`t working

[steady trail]

How so?

It should appear when the drop pod thingy appears.

As it is dropped by it.

So unless something is messing with the drop pod to not appear, it should appear just fine.

[crimson quarry]

Doesn't deliver

but on vanilla

all worked

[steady trail]

So a mod is likely to be the issue to cause the pod to not appear.

[crimson quarry]

Im find problem mod

[untold dirge]

Hi, we need an one time use item to repair jetpack that cost like 300

[steady trail]

The jetpack can be broken?
I thought it would disappear when you explode with it.

[untold dirge]

Yes

And no it don't disappear

[steady trail]

Huh.

Guess I don't use it often.
Even though I barely play the game nowadays.

[untold dirge]

I really love jetpack but my fun end when it broke

And now 900 is like the price of an lgu

[untold dirge]

https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1260478578165022781

[limpid blaze]

Hey so

i made a list of most of my mods besides interiors, moons, and enemies

do u think you could skim over it to see if anything seems like it might be causing the issue of losing our upgrades when we return to orbit?

[warm copper]

@crimson quarry so it sounds like it works on vanilla moons but it is not working on modded moons? Unless I misunderstood what you were meaning. That's because a lot of modded moons are still in the middle of being upgraded to allow for the cruiser to work on modded moons. Pretty sure it's called Lethal Cruiser Patch. I'm mobile so sadly I cannot confirm the name, but without it the cruiser will not spawn on most non vanilla moons currently

[limpid blaze]

CompanyCruiserFix ❤️

Also fixes a really annoying spam error in the console

[steady trail]

I made a 3.9.1 release and I'm going away in either Saturday or Sunday for two weeks.
If there's any issues arising from this release, the best time to report them would be probably today and tomorrow.

[limpid blaze]

I will test it

[worn ivy]

upgrades with a price of 0 are not auto-unlocked after being ejected

you have to manually unlock them in the terminal

[steady trail]

Fixed in next release.

[lusty socket]

Could you maybe add a function to the Hunter perk so that we can get samples from the Kidnapper Fox?

[limpid blaze]

Hey

So im pretty sure the issue was caused from TestAccountFixes "Player Speed" fix where it attempts to clear the 'critically injured' status from a player if they aren't supposed to actually have the movement debuff

didn't realize i had left that on

nvm it still clears my LGU when i return to orbit

but when i use "load lgu woodroach" it restores 2x of them and they stick between moonlandings.

[steady trail]

Can you provide the logs?

[steady trail]

There's API for registering drops to enemies, I believe.

Though it is kinda like for mods only, not configured due to not having a model for it.

[gusty flint]

kidnapper fox is vanilla silly

also im implementing nullable into whitespike, editing all teh files for once, lol

um... i guess i cant multitask, implementing nullable into coderebirth*

[steady trail]

Nice.

Indeed, make me nullable.

[steady trail]

I guess, yeah.

[lusty socket]

a bug I found: the minimum % sale you get from upgrading market influence doesn't work. also after changing the amount in the config that doesn't do anything either