Lategame Upgrades

[mild trench]

After we bought it, it was shared and everyone took damage when someone died.

[prisma swallow]

Are you also running the mod where using the coil also heals you?

[mild trench]

Nope

[prisma swallow]

Then yeah I’ve noticed that too

[lusty tinsel]

is it possible to change the loot values from hunter drops?

[steady trail]

It does, only issue with LCBetterSaves itself right now is that, past 10 saves, it will start reshuffling the saves all over the place.
But as far as LGU is concerned, each LGU file is associated to a LCSaveFile when it exists and always have the same identifier.

[manic glacier]

so i'm loving the update.. only gripe is that i think hunter might be overpriced... I think maybe 500 for tier 1 then 300 and 400 for the next tiers. I would also switch thumper from tier 3 to 2 and baboon hawk from tier 2 to 3. just my input. loving it so far though

[indigo prawn]

change prices in the config. I guess I could add the option to switch the tiers around

[lethal osprey]

@indigo prawn
Hello, just want to report a possible bug here.

I played with 10+ friends using LGU 2.8.2. Yesterday, we bought stimpack, later on if someone receive damage, all other players screen showed "Received Critical Damage" and turn slightly red. The red effect reset after pulling the lever. We unnloaded stimpack and restart the game using the same file. A few rounds later, 2 players still encountered the bug. Today, i as a host , disable buying of stimpack using config, the "bug" hasnt happened anymore.

I tried to replicate with 2 other players but nothing happened. Not sure if it only happens with more than 4 players or there is a specific triggering reason.

Thanks

[steady trail]

I think the transpiler should resolve this issue.

[indigo prawn]

yeah I'll push a hotfix rn

There's no assetbundle cchanges or anything right @steady trail

all the stuff you've added is good to go live

[steady trail]

Besides using the new logger, yeah.

[indigo prawn]

here it is if you don't want to wait for the store

[lethal osprey]

thanks alot

[indigo prawn]

Thank white spike I haven't touched it since I think the 23rd lol

[cosmic harness]

hey, I'm new to this server but I came here to suggest a new option in the configuration settings. sorry if it has been suggested before, I didn't bother to read the whole chat. what i want to suggest is that it should be configurable for both the normal and the advanced portable teleporter to change whether you keep your items when using the teleporter. because as of now, you can configure it for both at the same time, but I want to make it that only the advanced portable teleporter keeps your items instead of both/none of them

[mint isle]

I actually agree with this. Kinda weird that the normal porta tele keeps stuff, or that the advanced cant. No nice middle ground.

[indigo prawn]

Yeah sure

[lethal osprey]

@indigo prawn Just wanto let you know, inside cfg for stimpack, price of each additional upgrade, there is a space after comma, is it intended?

As i know the other upgrades do not have a space. Dont know if it will affect anything.

[velvet stump]

is there a list of what the different upgrades do?

[indigo prawn]

Thunderstore and info command

[indigo prawn]

I think it will still parse but thanks for letting me know

[lethal osprey]

np

[velvet stump]

info command?

[indigo prawn]

Just like the vanilla game. Type info item or info upgrade for info on that thing

[velvet stump]

oh ok ty

[civic jewel]

its towards the later end of the day but merry christmas to all of you, thank you from each of us for downloading, playing, and enjoying the mod!
and then for you who dont celebrate christmas, happy holidays, and for those who celebrate nothing, happy winter!

[real coral]

hi again 🙂
any update on this? or is it LCBetterSaves I should be watching?

[indigo prawn]

If you never have more than 3 saves just uninstall lc better saves for the time being. Not sure when I'll be able to get a pull request in

[real coral]

oh so it is a bettersaves issue, I see
thanks a lot, and Happy Holidays 🙂

[still trellis]

Are spiders unaffected by Protein Powder?

[indigo prawn]

I'm not sure. What level do you have

[still trellis]

Friend had level 3.

Took 5 hits to kill a spider.

Onetapped a hoarding bug

[indigo prawn]

Oh weird. You're sure all 5 hits hit? They made the spider jolt and everything? I'll check the code soon thanks for letting me know.

[prisma swallow]

spiders are jank yeah

[shell verge]

Yesterday when I Played with a friend, I maxed protein powder, set the crit chance to 1 (should be 100% chance), I was able to one hit dogs for example, but I could never deal more damage to nutcracker (hit one 3 times and it didn't die). But my friend was able to one hit them. I was the host

[forest storm]

hey can someone explain to me what the fast encryption do?

havent played lethal company in a while so im updating all my mods

and first time seeing the new stuff

editing the config so tryna figure out the worth of the encryiptn thing

[little gazelle]

v45 added a transmitter ship upgrade where you can send short text to all players, that upgrade makes the text pop up faster

https://dotesports.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Screenshot-2023-12-10-101556.jpg?w=640

[forest storm]

ah i see

also is the protein powder like the medkit where it has uses?

or is it just a permanent dmg booster or is it temporary?

[manic glacier]

protein powder is permanent

really nice too

lvl 1 allows you to one shot hoarding bugs and snare flees

protein powder lvl 2 and hunter lvl 3 = team up with a bud that has a zap gun and kill EVERYTHING and harvest their goods

[fathom veldt]

It's not really compatible with TerminalExtras
if you type "light footed" you will buy that upgrade and turn off/on the ship light at the same time

[hexed hamlet]

Honestly Im just happy it does both rather than only lights XD

[prisma widget]

Nutcracker has hit box only in his eye. While you can't see the eye you don't deal damage with it

[shell verge]

Well, I did hear a "fleshy?" sound when I hit him and I also aimed at the eye, so I do think that I hit him

[prisma widget]

May be better to have logged all do-damage events and all the enemy's health after it to figure out what is happening.

[teal path]

Does everyone in your game get the upgrades or just one person?

[steady trail]

Default value on "Misc -> Share all upgrades" config is true so it should share to everyone the upgrade when bought.
If it's false, only the upgrades marked as shared in the configs will be shared to everyone when bought.

[teal path]

You mean this?

[steady trail]

Yes.

If that's true, all's shared

Otherwise, checks each upgrade if they are shared or not.

[teal path]

Thanks

[hollow saddle]

I know it's an old post but I damn choked on my coffee laughing. That without context + the pic is gold

[indigo prawn]

Haha. Should be compatible now btw

[hexed hamlet]

So 2 concerns...

1. is it yet known that the protein powder doesnt work for killing spiders or baboon hawks? Also assuming this is the case for nut cracker as well from comments above though I havent tested it. I have damage set to 5 and have killed the thumper, bracken, hoarding bug, snare flea, and masked that it has worked on... Unknown if spore lizards are unkillable or not but I hit them 3 times as well no luck... Can this get updated to include spiders, baboon hawks and nutcrackers? (still untested on that one)... [I refuse to test this with dogs...]
2. The hunter upgrade only drops loot for snare fleas and hoarding bugs... Im hoping this can be updated for spiders, baboon hawks, masked and thumpers (as stated before still untested for nutcrackers and dogs) I did upgrade to hunter level 2 with nothing additional... I assume that just made the loot more valuable...

[steady trail]

Spore lizards are unkillable.

This is just a patch on the shovel so it should work on anything it hits

Yeah, just killed a dog once with 1000 protein force.

[hexed hamlet]

Gotcha... I didnt know I never had a reason to try without getting loot from them... Theyre not even dangerous XD

[steady trail]

Huh.

[hexed hamlet]

I know its not working for spiders or baboons though... It takes the normal amount of hits while other enemies are affected by protein powder

[steady trail]

Just one shot baboon tho.

[hexed hamlet]

I had to hit it 3 times

with 5... same as usual

[steady trail]

The spider is the only one that I had to hit the regular 5 hits

Hmmm

Yeah, nut got one shot.

I just don't understand why spider is different

Of course it doesn't work.

Because the vanilla doesn't care about force anyways.

Okay, I can confirm the hunter thingy not spawning the sample for baboon as it's supposed to on level 2.

Spider's spawned just fine.

[hexed hamlet]

I only had a level 1 hunter when I killed the spider so... Unknown

[steady trail]

It's probably because I got the baboon's name wrong.

[indigo prawn]

Does the spider get one shot by the shotgun? Iirc it just hits the hittabble with like 30 force

[steady trail]

Nope.

Takes 5 shots to kill it.

Because again, the SandSpiderAI's HitEnemy function does not care about the force.

Actually.

Spider has two health variables.

[indigo prawn]

Yeah I ask because I wouldn't of been surprised if for some reason there was another method or branch that set specifically spider health lol. The fact that this is a vanilla bug means it will be patched and compatible with ours soon. A meantime transpiler will fix it

Oh

[steady trail]

One from EnemyAI and one from SandSpiderAI

And it only cares about SandSpiderAI

Well besides this.

But since the HitEnemy only updates SandSpiderAI's "health" instead of EnemyAI's "enemyHP", spider never gets faster so it's basically useless.

[steady trail]

I didn't even know it was supposed to get faster when it's low.

[dawn phoenix]

yup, more than happy to confirm

oop bad screenshot

[indigo crescent]

Hey 👋 I was wondering if that could be possible to add the advanced store menu into the terminal help page directly, instead of typing lgu to find it because it doesn't feel very vanilla friendly and it would be nice to see the menu here, it would feel more integrated to the game (I'm about to start playing with this mod and some friends and I know that's the kind of things they could feel like it's modded and not part of the game)

[elder snow]

Is the peeper not working for anyone else? Not sure if I'm experiencing a conflicting mods issue or if it's just bugged on its own

[indigo prawn]

Oh right I think the most recent patch with the peeper transpiler broke it. I saw another pr saying he forgot to evaluate the returned bool or something. I can get another patch out real soon I'm just focusing on the mod jam rn.

[elder snow]

Oh ok that's good to know. Gl with the mod jam! ❤️

[cosmic harness]

on top of this, i set keep items to false and i still keep my stuff upon teleport.

[frank ledge]

Hm. Did I suggest a tier upgrade for malware broadcaster before?
Basically to allow you to put mines and turrets into a disabled state rather than destroying them so that you can salvage them just like hunting the monsters with hunter?

[little gazelle]

make em blow up into scrap metal sheets

[fleet plume]

peeper no peeping

[steady trail]

Mesa know.

[hoary basin]

Peeper worked a few days ago but when only peeper had eyes on a coil it tried to move and stop on the same frame, every frame. The noise was very loud.

And then a jester decided to spawn so we all dipped within 30 seconds

[past oriole]

Found an odd bug with the GameMaster mod(while I was checking different mods with it, along with this)

If you kill an Eyeless dog with a shovel(for example), you can't pick up the sample, and also can't interact with anything else anymore, except the ship's lever

The rest of the samples work normally

[steady trail]

Did you kill the dog without being eaten (since it has god mode)?

I only managed to pick up anything when I killed the dog without being them hitting me.

[past oriole]

I'll check this one

[past oriole]

Yea you were right

[oak dock]

What does assistant do

[indigo prawn]

what's assistant

[steady trail]

Maybe they meant interns?

[indigo prawn]

oh right maybe

[dire willow]

every content creator i watched had no clue what interns were

and wasted money on it

lmao

[steady trail]

Not surprised, haha.

[indigo prawn]

I've been speaking and testing with evaisa this morning and LethalLib.Items has a really nice method for removing shopitems at runtime and changing prices so we'll have full config syncing soon

people are just allergic to reading I know I don't know how to combat it

[dire willow]

Hi i'm evaisa

[indigo prawn]

info interns

[dire willow]

people seem to not realize the info command exists

same reason no one understands my hacking tool

even though the info command explains it clearly

[indigo prawn]

I should change it to revive but that takes so much charm away

and the cute little generated intern replacement blurb wouldn't make sense

well, I guess it would

[steady trail]

Someone suggested adding info to the default help command like "lgu" or "lategame", I don't know.

[indigo prawn]

ffface value intuition is just the most important thing in development I've learned

oh yeah if you type lategame it gives a giant info string of general information

[steady trail]

Yeah.

[dire willow]

I really need to write documentation for lethallib but i keep putting of off

oh this isn't general chat bye

[steady trail]

[dire willow]

(I'll start with writing intellisense comments lmao)

[indigo prawn]

thanks for merging main into your prs I should have merged the one I did last lol. I'll pull them in rn

[steady trail]

Now to break everything.

[indigo prawn]

The tiny video I made about making custom scrap and adding with lethallib seems to be pretty handy I'm gonna make more

I know I said I was gonna make a big lethallib video a while ago but

i forgor

[dire willow]

i can link it in the readme if you have tutorials

[indigo prawn]

sure sounds good

[dire willow]

btw the lethallib 0.10.0 update will probably have to wait until tomorrow because i want to write removal functions for every module

[indigo prawn]

no rush at all on our end that sounds great. We have a couple fixes to push live we can time with that. I may be able to test maphazard removal if you need as well.

[nova talon]

I would love to have an upgrade where your walkie talkie becomes permanent and doesn't take up a slot. Similar to how Night Vision Goggles are an expensive upgrade to flashlights.

[cosmic harness]

there's another mod for that

don't know what ít's called but think it was along the lines of reserved walkie slot

[nova talon]

That's not the same. You lose those on death and you still have to buy walkies. Also, that mod is incredibly buggy in my experience.

[cosmic harness]

ah ok

[tame olive]

not buggy at all in my experience also he specifically wants there to be a point to getting base-game items so that they arent completely de-valued and worthless once you get a certain upgrade so likely wont be implemented

then again walkies are like 12 bucks and with reserved walkie slot they have worked fine so ehhhh

[nova talon]

reservedwalkieslots CONSTANTLY eats walkies. Night vision goggles kinda defeats the purpose for flashlights.

I have had that happen in multiple different lobbies, so it's not just an issue with my mod pack.

[tame olive]

not once have i ever seen it eat a walkie? also no it doesnt, it's a short burst of light rather than consistent light

multiple lobbies eh?

[nova talon]

yes eh

[tame olive]

so possibly lobbies where people dont have reserved walkie slots?

[civic jewel]

yea lmao night vision hasnt made flashies useless in some time now

[nova talon]

no, lobbies where reservedwalkieslot is in the modpack

[white vessel]

i feel like the first upgrade for the better scanner reduced the range

[tame olive]

as in a non-public lobby?

[nova talon]

yeah, through the discord where we download each other's modpack through the thunderstore code

[nova talon]

hard disagree, you just upgrade night vision and it's much better than flashlight, which takes up a slot

[tame olive]

alr, well i've never had issues with it eating a walkie or a flashlight so maybe it's incompatible with another mod in the pack?

[nova talon]

must be a common mod. do you play with morecompany often?

[white vessel]

unless you have the reserve slot

[nova talon]

which breaks constantly

unless they fixed that in the last week

[tame olive]

it depends on config, base night vision isnt as good as a flashlight for constant exploration, only useful for lighting up a room shortly

[white vessel]

ive had no issues since using it yesterday

[nova talon]

even with fully upgraded batteries?

[tame olive]

i have NEVER had the reserved flashlight mod break and i use like 50 other mods with it

[civic jewel]

a pro flashlight lasts around 300 seconds, night vision lasts 9 seconds at default, then around 15 at max with a recharge time (on default settings)

especially since its lost on death by default, its not outdoing flashlights lmao

[nova talon]

what's your modpack code?

Do you use Lethal Things?

[tame olive]

yes

i dont use more company tho

as i play it solo

then again that may be your issue

[civic jewel]

rootbeer we gotta find you some crews man

[tame olive]

multiplayer

[steady trail]

I just use the night vision when the room is literally pitch black.

"Can't see shit, lemme turn on the lights."
"Okay, there's a coil head infront of me, lemme turn the lights off now."

[nova talon]

that's probably why it's so stable and makes your experience not a good analog to others'

[civic jewel]

more company and bigger lobby are hubs for problems in general if the lobbies dont start themselves properly

[tame olive]

oh, cool him -turns lights off-

[steady trail]

Hey, the vanilla game didn't account for lighting when looking at them.

So we're fine.

[tame olive]

latecompany is also a hub for problems

[civic jewel]

if i dont see them...they cant see me...

[white vessel]

never had a problem with latecompany

[steady trail]

I had to babysit 4 coils once.

It was fun.

[nova talon]

consider yourself lucky

[tame olive]

i've ALWAYS had problems with it

i breaks just about every mod out there

[nova talon]

just like me with the walkie slot... hmmmmm....

[tame olive]

hell it even breaks vanilla sometimes

[steady trail]

The default value should have been the same past the better scanner overhaul.

[civic jewel]

i tried that once, i was the last one in the facility and a bracken decided to utilize my distracted self as a perfect target

[nova talon]

but it's probably that we're both too stupid and LateCompany actually works fine, right?

[tame olive]

boi, it's a whole different mod KNOWN to cause issues

[steady trail]

Oh yeah, brackens are the best.

[nova talon]

same with reserveditemslot lmao

[civic jewel]

latecompany has given me no issues, just morecompany/bigger lobbies

[nova talon]

idk why i'd expect you to know that since you don't play with other people who can share their experiences with mods lmao

[tame olive]

what.

aint no way bruh

i havent seen anyone till like the last 10 minutes that HASNT had an issue with it

[white vessel]

morecomapny gives issius?

[nova talon]

I prefer shiplobby, seems more stable

[civic jewel]

i run 34 mods, my crew regularly only ever has issues in regards to bigger lobby and morecompany and those are known problem mods when it comes to lgu due to the lobby borking itself

even then the problems with morecompany/bigger lobby are fixed by restarting the lobby itself

so its never a big issue

[nova talon]

sometimes. it makes the game more likely to have issues on startup.

[tame olive]

it can also have issues in-game with sync issues

same as latecompany has issues with a TON of other mods

[white vessel]

has anyone else had a problem with the first upgrade og better scanner being shorter?

[nova talon]

i haven't noticed that happening when i upgrade it

[steady trail]

Speaking of ReservedStuff, there's that one issue between LGU and Reserved that basically makes Back Muscles increase your weight everytime you pick up any item meant for reserved slot.

[civic jewel]

we call that a feature

[nova talon]

yeah this is another bug i have often

[tame olive]

never seen this... huh

[nova talon]

also had that bug happen with PintoBoy too ):

[steady trail]

Because they apply the weight of the item themselves instead of letting the vanilla code do that.

[tame olive]

hm

alr then

[steady trail]

It was recent because we moved to transpilers on each grabItem Function.

[civic jewel]

i know we have something similar with i beleve strange objects kill running shoes

[steady trail]

Instead of Update patch.

[nova talon]

i have had this issue as well

stopped using strangeitems because it caused so many issues

[tame olive]

strange objects i never bothered getting cus of the inability to have them exist when loading a save

and with mods comes the need to reload your game a TON

[civic jewel]

ive been lazy as shit because whitespike is awesome and does alot so i just let him do it 🙃

hes awsum

[steady trail]

Still need to fix spider taking only one point of damage.

So that protein actually works.

[civic jewel]

ez if protein powder = true then bunker.spider health = 0

there i did it for you

merry christmas

just paste that right in

[steady trail]

What if other people don't have it configured to one shot, my brother?

[civic jewel]

nah thats not important trust me

[nova talon]

ohhhh so I'm NOT bad at the game

[steady trail]

[steady trail]

It's funny actually.

[civic jewel]

nah for some reason spooder is special

and not like everything else

[steady trail]

Because apparently the spider's also supposed to get fast when it's 1 HP away from death.

[nova talon]

of course they are. those hell spawn.

[civic jewel]

bro woke up and decided to feel different but ive never noticed him be in fact, built different

[steady trail]

Like someone was complaining of Protein not applying to certain mobs, one of them being spider.
So I go and tested.
Everyone worked just fine except spider, it still took five hits.
So I went to check the code to find out why.

Only to find out this.

And no, base.HitEnemy does no logic. It just makes logs and sounds.

Anyways, back to make TerminalPatcher cleaner.

[civic jewel]

if you do a good job ill upgrade your cookies from oatmeal raisin to chocolate chip

[steady trail]

I'm getting cookies?

Since when?

[civic jewel]

theoretically sure!

[steady trail]

[civic jewel]

:D

[bleak mirage]

Can anyone tell me what the prices for each sample are?

[rancid pivot]

Night Vision doesn't work with Diversity's FullDarkness

FullDarkness works originally but activating Night Vision reenables the player's natural light source back to original, removing the darkness

I presume the way how Night Vision works is setting natural light source to 0 for removal, then puts it back to 1 (or whatever value original is) which would lead to incompat

[autumn zodiac]

Hi were lategame upgrades supposed to apply everbody in the game or just the person who purchases them?

In our games it only seems the person who purchases the upgrades recieves them

[rare wren]

I fell like we'll see a lot of game patches in the near futures from modder to fixes these "issues"

[sleek flare]

You got to enable shared upgrades in the config, config is called moreshipupgrades.cfg and should be under misc.

[celest quest]

I've been testing some mod profiles and I noticed when quitting out of a day without saving and loading that same day from save lgu stuff like night vision battery is twice as strong as it should be (double duration in that case). Known issue?

[prisma widget]

i assume it decrease public value health, innit?

health--;

[rare wren]

this mean you have to patches this function to have custom damage value

[tepid whale]

hello! does anyone know if its possible to add items from lgu to other mods like BetterTeleporter? if so, where could i find the string/nameof the items to add to the config?

[steady trail]

MoreShipUpgrades.UpgradeComponents.AdvTPButtonScript = Advanced Teleporter Button
MoreShipUpgrades.UpgradeComponents.coilHeadItem = Peeper
MoreShipUpgrades.UpgradeComponents.DivingKitScript = Diving Kit
MoreShipUpgrades.UpgradeComponents.MedkitScript = Medkit
MoreShipUpgrades.UpgradeComponents.TPButtonScript = Regular Teleporter Button

This should be what you want.

[steady trail]

One of the spider's health variables, yes.

At least, the one used to differenciate between alive and dead.

[indigo prawn]

What must be happening is our code that grabs the night vision values to swap between them and the green amped up values is running before this so it switches it back to the vanilla values

I guess we could put a small coroutine in Start or something

[steady trail]

Um actually.

We were putting the range and intensity increase when our NV turned off.

[indigo prawn]

Oh I guess that would do it

[steady trail]

I was curious why you wanted to make vanilla night vision stronger.

[indigo prawn]

Oh yeah and we're not even grabbing values in start anyway

[indigo prawn]

Although aren't all those values 0 by default?

[steady trail]

Um

They say no.

The increments are 0.

[indigo prawn]

That's what I mean

So this was in turnoff before?
client.nightVision.range = UpgradeBus.instance.cfg.NIGHT_VIS_RANGE

[steady trail]

Yeah.

Or well

[steady trail]

The increments were.

[indigo prawn]

Oh yeah look at that lol

That wouldn't have been doing anything by default though so I doubt the issue is resolved right

[steady trail]

Hmm

[indigo prawn]

Unless this person changes the values

[steady trail]

When I went to test, it was complete pitch darkness though

I didn't test before so I'm not sure about that

[indigo prawn]

Like the night light is broken now?

[steady trail]

Uhhh

No, not that.

Diversity makes basically you can't see a room when there's no lights.

By messing with the vanila night vision.

[indigo prawn]

Yeah sets the intensity to 0

So you tested and it didn't go back to the set value

[steady trail]

It did though.
Otherwise I wouldn't see pitch black, I would see some of the room.

[indigo prawn]

Oh so it was. Ok so the person must have changed the intensity and range values and now it should be resolved. Perfect.

I think I'll put a new version on thunderstore in a bit here

[steady trail]

There's 2 PRs about features. I didn't immediately merge since I didn't know if you're okay with them like that or if you wanted to tweak them a bit.

[indigo prawn]

Quite a bit to go up. I think I have to implement hunter item value syncing though. I think I did that locally than updated and didn't commit. That was when I was scrambling to get things out while family was out of my house for an hour lol

[steady trail]

Also fun fact.

[indigo prawn]

Yeah I saw thank you, your feature PRs I still read to stay up with how major components are working so I appreciate that

[steady trail]

Dogs don't react to shotgun blasts.

Because there isn't any AudibleNoise being played.

[indigo prawn]

Oh really haha

Ohhh

That's really surprising that can't be on purpose

[tame olive]

they turn if they are hit by it i believe

only if they are damaged tho

[steady trail]

Hmm

I tried shooting at them, they weren't reacting at all.

Nope, no reaction, they're just casually wandering around not caring about shotgun blasts in their face.

[cosmic harness]

how's the update coming along? still waiting for it to be configurable to not keep items with the portable teleporters, but don't rush it

[tepid whale]

Thank you!

[indigo prawn]

My cat is still sleeping on me

So sometime after she wakes up it will be live

[cosmic harness]

alright, no worries

[scenic dune]

so downloaded the new update and this is our save lol

save is completely dead, can't use any buttons or anything

[dawn phoenix]

90% of the time i see this thing pop up a single relaunch fixes it

[scenic dune]

not for us

[spark notch]

Oh happened to me but with other mods, relaunch and see if it's fixed. If not, reinstall the mod and delete the old config file.

[scenic dune]

did this and still not fixed, new update is just bugged

[spark notch]

I'll try it later if it happens with me, but yeah, it could be a bug as Kieth changed things about NightVision

[scenic dune]

it worked after I uninstalled lategame

added it back and it came back

[spark notch]

Do you have diversity in your mods?

[scenic dune]

nope

[spark notch]

Then it's really only lategame lol

I have diversity so I may try it to see if it's bugged or not, the new patch was to make it more compatible with diversity

[scenic dune]

is it possible to redownload the old version?

[spark notch]

Yep, if you're using modman then just click "download" and switch versions

R2 I think caches the last 2 versions of your mod, but I know it caches old versions still

[scenic dune]

yep, its the update, older version works

[spark notch]

Now let's just wait for a fix, Kieth is online so prob won't take a while though

[steady trail]

Provide logs kthx.

Cause you're the only one with this issue right now.

[steady trail]

spills drink
You didn't specify it had to be at the last level.

[rancid pivot]

tysm for fix, btw whats the diff?

[steady trail]

Drain speed is how fast battery goes to zero.
Regen speed is how fast battery goes to full.

[rancid pivot]

i mean between the two ss

are they the same variables?

[steady trail]

Uhhh.

[rancid pivot]

since they show up twice

[steady trail]

What the hell?

Seems like old config?

Because it's not in the code.

[rancid pivot]

weird

i assume it won't matter ingame anyways?

[steady trail]

It shouldn't since the code doesn't even know it exists.

It only knows the ones in the second screenshot.

[rancid pivot]

did the new NV remove the cost of initial activation too?

[steady trail]

That's configurable.

[rancid pivot]

oh wait nvm found it

[steady trail]

We should prolly order it properly.

I will do it next week, lol

[rancid pivot]

alright ty again 👍

[steady trail]

Now to hope it did in fact fix the issue with darkness. 🫠
Because supposedly you should see pitch black when it's not on, right?

[rancid pivot]

yeah, all working

switching on and off maintained the FullDarkness effect even when i changed intensity of it in both configs

[steady trail]

phew

And the peeper only works when the coil spots the player beforehand.

sighs

[desert rover]

uh

my glitch is a lil different

newest version makes my stamina 50% and breaks.. well stamina. and batteries.

and i see two battery readouts

also i shit you not im not getting any errors in my console >:C

but rolling back fixed it

[hollow saddle]

Um, after last update I now have Samples in store (I didn't even buy a Hunter upgrade)

[desert rover]

i guess ill stick with the old version lol

[hollow saddle]

They aren't buyable, just clutter up the space. If attempted to buy it says the creature wasn't scanned yet

[steady trail]

@indigo prawn

[indigo prawn]

oh whoops hahaha

[steady trail]

Batteries?

Like flashlight batteries?

And when you mean break, you mean UI or actual stamina?

[fallen idol]

is that only me or shared upgrades barely work? like i upgrade bigger lungs, and only some of the players receive it

or none at all

or sometimes it work

totally not consistent

[steady trail]

Give logs, kthx.

[steady trail]

@indigo prawn

[desert rover]

both

i can run but it wont deplete stamina

and i have 2 battery bars in my UI

[steady trail]

Hmm

[desert rover]

im using eladsHUD

also stamina is stuck being used but not moving... like part of it is opaque. like its mid animation

[steady trail]

Weird, it's working just fine on my end.
It's just those two mods you have?

[desert rover]

no, it isn't. mod list would just make your life hard. i can break it down piece by piece but jesus i've done this for 10 mods in the last 2 days

i have a manual setup for bepinex

[steady trail]

Oof.

[desert rover]

i will say your last version works perfectly

in my mod pack so idek

it could be lots of things.. LC API. Lethal things. Could be the HUD. Could be.. idfk

[steady trail]

Haha

[mint isle]

hey so i know there are mods that show a players health, but it would be nice to get a ~100$ updgrade that just showed players their health. its a nice thing to have but i don't want to have that information off the bat unless i worked for it, yaknow?

[cosmic harness]

a vitals upgrade?

[mint isle]

yea

i dont think theres anything that is an upgrade that lets you see your vitals

would be nice to have one

[cosmic harness]

are you more thinking of like the same mod that shows you your own hp or maybe something like a screen in the ship that show's the hp of every crew member?

phasmophobia style with sanity i mean

bc i feel like that would suit better instead of just seeing your own hp along with stamina

[warped hemlock]

What is the newest update that was posted an hour ago. Whats the fix? (2.8.5)

[median pier]

could someone explain to me how locksmith works cause i thought once you buy it you run into a locked door and it will play a minigame so you can picklock it but it never works for me what am i doing wrong

[granite moth]

whenever you type "help" in the console it adds another lategame info to the bottom

[steady trail]

Another as duplicate or just one ">LATEGAME"?

[cosmic harness]

wdym it never works?

does the minigame trigger at all?

[steady trail]

Fixed it anyways.

[steady trail]

So whenever you go head first into the door, you never get this?

[steady trail]

Me trying to fix the peeper. (only works when they spotted a player)
Night vision range and intensity applying to vanilla night vision instead of our own night vision
Teleport buttons did not care about the config of dropping items or not.
And the fact that vanila spider only takes 1 point of damage from any source. I patched so that it actually cared about the amount of damage dealt on it.

[median pier]

ya never

[steady trail]

Does chat say that Locksmith was active?

[median pier]

yep

[steady trail]

Can you provide your logs by any chance when this happened?

[median pier]

uh ya i can give me a minute

[warped hemlock]

Well I reverted back to 2.8.3 because it makes my teleporter work and not drop my items. 2.8.4 and 2.8.5 breaks it again

[steady trail]

Ehh?

Is this advanced or regular?
Because we added a new config for advanced.

[warped hemlock]

Let me better explain, When I would TP, I always keep my stuff (Im host), when my friend TP's, he always drops his stuff on version 2.8.4 and 2.8.5. On 2.8.3, we dont have those issues

[granite moth]

duplicate

[warped hemlock]

Advanced

[steady trail]

@indigo prawn Did you add config sync on teleporter buttons yet or not?

Because you mentioned that was work in progress.

[indigo prawn]

Store items are pending the next lethallib update

oh dropping

[warped hemlock]

Copy that. Ill stay on 2.8.3 until further notice

[indigo prawn]

ah there's a config value for tp button dropping items for advanced and regular now

I probably forgot a ! if it's behaving like that

[steady trail]

Yeah but the issue is that host works, client doesn't.

[indigo prawn]

It should be serializing and sending

it just sends and unpacks the entire thing

[steady trail]

Hm

[warped hemlock]

I always check configs and edit them before sending my file for them to sync their stuff with mine. We tested both versions and both version 2.8.4 and 2.8.5 would always cause anyone other than host to drop their items when using Advanced Teleporter but host doesnt lose theirs

[warped hemlock]

Correct, this is how it acts. Client works on 2.8.3, none higher than that

[indigo prawn]

this might fix it, doing a lan test rn

[steady trail]

What did you fix?

[indigo prawn]

the new option for advanced tele was private set. I didn't know it behaved that way but it was the only thing I could think of to change it to just get; set;
Just tested on two lan clients and both host and remote client were able to keep there items teleporting

[steady trail]

Pfff.

[indigo prawn]

Actually I just realized that's not it, they just have bad internet

The rpc to switch teleport drop to false happens pretty close to when the teleport happens. If you have poor enough latency the clients wouldn't have the bool flipped to not drop the items

I can move it further back

but it works on the previous version right

[steady trail]

They say only it works on 2.8.3

Past that, no bueno.

[indigo prawn]

yeah idk it seems like that's it though, that's the only reason it would work for the host when the host initializes it but no one else. That screams netcode

maybe their lobby initialized poorly on .5 for some reason and they didn't try again?

[warped hemlock]

Then why does it work 100% of the time on 2.8.3 and not the others. Doesnt make sense

[warped hemlock]

Tried multiple times

Im always testing, spent an hour doing so

I just wanted to bring it to someones attention. Im staying on 2.8.3 until eventually it works whenever a new update happens. Ill test it and use 2.8.3 as my safe zone of no issues

[stray ferry]

hey is the upgrades supposed to go to all players in the lobby? It seems whoever buys it only gets it

[steady trail]

In the configs, in the misc section ,is "Shared to all" false or true?

[stray ferry]

which config is it called? I cant seem to find it

[steady trail]

com.malco.lethalcompany.moreshipupgrades.cfg

It's a really long name.

[stray ferry]

ah okay so I there is individual purchase set to true. I figure I just set that to false?

[steady trail]

Individual purchase is for each upgrade.

Misc has an option to ignore all that when it's true.

[stray ferry]

Cool so I found "Convert all upgrades to be shared." is this it?

[steady trail]

Yes.

True or false?

[stray ferry]

its currently false

[steady trail]

That would be why.

If you want all upgrades to be shared, you set that true.

[stray ferry]

Okay thanks. Does everyone in the lobby need to set it to that or only the host?

[steady trail]

Only the host as the config is sent to everyone that joins.

[stray ferry]

Thank you

[steady trail]

Anytime.

[steady trail]

Have you ever tried the weaker version or you only tested the advanced one?

[warped hemlock]

Before 2.8.3?

Before 2.8.3 its all worked fine. Anything after 2.8.3 doesnt work when it comes to TP dropping items when using advanced teleporter and it only happens to client

So Im not sure what was changed with those updates other than what you stated earlier

[finite tundra]

Hi whats the peeper fix ?

[indigo prawn]

@warped hemlock if you can try this that would be handy

[warped hemlock]

I'll have to tomorrow. On my way to work. Do you want me to send it to my friend as well so we are synced or just myself as host?

[indigo prawn]

All good, if you get around to it lmk. Synced

[warped hemlock]

Copy that. I'll test it in about 10 hours and will report back

Will it change config settings? (Will I need to re-optimize my config?)

[indigo prawn]

you should be fine

[mint isle]

hey, the night vision still seems to be bugged? dying while you have it on seems to keep the good vision, but without the green coloration and without the recharge.

[fallen idol]

there should be something in logs? at least there's no errors or warnings, we have info level disabled as there's too much spam

should i re-enable info level?

[faint ridge]

Friendly reminder to make the night vision goggles drop onto the ground along other items in in the inventory when the player is killed ^^

[mint isle]

yea

agreed

[pulsar bough]

Can there be an option for this to show up on the terminal instead of the start screen pop up?

[slim latch]

its not working for me

[warped hemlock]

@indigo prawn Im going to private message you my findings on the test Ive just taken

[steady trail]

Is there a message popup saying that the upgrade is active?

• If yes, is that the case for everyone?
• • If not, do you have the Misc section of the config related to "Share all upgrades" to true or false?

[steady trail]

What's "this"?

[steady trail]

What's "it"?

We can't do anything with vague statements.

[slim latch]

when i try to play the mod with my friends

it only works for me

its like all items are being bought individually

and if i buy something

the other cannot see it

we even went to config

and set individual

purchase to

false

same problem

[steady trail]

And the Misc section?

[slim latch]

waht

[steady trail]

Misc section has "Share all upgrades".

Is that true or false?

[slim latch]

let me check

yeah its truee

[steady trail]

So the chat popup only appears to who bought it?

[slim latch]

yep

[steady trail]

And the host has this exact config params you're telling me about.

[slim latch]

yep

exact same version folder

and all

[steady trail]

Version folder?
I just care about the config because host's config is sent to all clients that join.

[slim latch]

yep

[steady trail]

You have only this mod and its dependencies?

Because code related to sharing upgrades hasn't changed.

[slim latch]

yeah

[steady trail]

Does some error popup on anyone's console when buying something?

[scarlet quest]

can soemone tell me how to activate the malware broadcaster ? ive bought it but it does nohing

[cosmic harness]

it's more like a passive upgrade, try broadcasting a code to a turret or a landmine, it will explode

you could also configure it to just disable them for longer or no explosion at all

[scarlet quest]

thankyou ill try now 🙂

[pulsar bough]

I was stating about the**starting up screen** . can there instead be the option or for this modto mention itself in the **terminal ** when going to other or it having it's own menu. kind of like how MoreEmotes does it or is this all ready a thing?

the reasoning of this is for the people putting this in modpacks and ignoring the pop up that won't remember it was a thing because of 100+ mods and there specific commands.

I do remember asking about this option a while ago so idk if it was added or not. or is there something conflicting currently for it not to show up cause then I can rule out Terminal Extras to be messing with it.

|| side note tried to get an image of the start up screen but it only shows once ||

[steady trail]

So you mean..

Help?

[pulsar bough]

is it in there?

[steady trail]

I putted in there.

At least it should appear.

Right now it's gonna keep adding whenever you type help.

But I fixed that issue.

[pulsar bough]

Ah I see so it is been taken out by another mod some how

[steady trail]

It doesn't appear at the bottom of help?

[pulsar bough]

this is all that shows but I mean there's Advance company and terminal extras that could be the doing it

[steady trail]

I guess I can change it so it doesn't get removed by others.

[pulsar bough]

I didn't know that could even been a thing 🤷‍♂️

[steady trail]

With code, anything's possible.

Just need to cry enough for it to work.

[mint isle]

that's the spirit

/j

[pulsar bough]

https://tenor.com/view/bober-kurwa-wombat-not-a-beaver-beaver-gif-8961649020872801915

[compact hollow]

A bit late for me, but glad to know there’s an actual issue and that I wouldn’t have to sort 20+ mods to find some sort of conflict 😅

But seriously, what an amazing mod! I love all the work going into lgu

[scenic dune]

Has the new patch been fixed yet? The newest update of lgu completely broke our save and made it unplayable, whenever we loaded in we would get taken to a blackish screen and not be able to do anything at all

[indigo prawn]

Then either finish your save on the last version that save was compatible with or delete that save and create a new one with the new version

[scenic dune]

Oh so the save might just be corrupted with the new version?

[steady trail]

Did you buy Light Footed in that save?

[scenic dune]

Nope, just downloaded the new version and it suddenly stopped working

[steady trail]

Then I have no idea, only thing removed was that.
Prolly did not like additional things anyways.

[scenic dune]

We reverted back to the old version and it started up just fine, so its possible the save was just corrupted with the new update like keith mentioned

I'm excited for spiders to actually die with protein powder though

[indigo prawn]

Were new save fields not added? All the final upgrade change bools and stuff? Deserializing things that don't exist and so on

idk not using saves created with older versions is usually the way to go

[steady trail]

Only thing related to save really was the uhhh.

Light footed.

[indigo prawn]

Guess that would do it

[steady trail]

Because I removed the level and boolean from the ubs.

bus*

And prolly whenever it tries to get SaveInfo, it's just like "I don't know what this is, throw it away from my face"

[indigo prawn]

yeah exactly, two different strutures

[scenic dune]

lol, save? what save?

[steady trail]

LGU save.

[scenic dune]

there's no save here, only misery

oh I know I was cracking a joke

[steady trail]

Oh that.

Misery doesn't even exist here, only despair.

Because the fucking landmine doesn't want to stay deactivated after I told it to for 100 seconds.

The turret does it just fine.

The landmine is just nah.

[scenic dune]

Me when the thumper takes 2 hits to die after buying protein powder but the spider takes 4

Ultimate boss spider

[steady trail]

The problem with spider was basically vanilla code.

It was only decremented by one their health from any source of damage.

[scenic dune]

Next update should add a pipebomb that you can attach to the jester to blow it up

[wanton crystal]

ill make the model if keith wants to add it lol

[scenic dune]

I have a vengeance for the jester after my friends led me to a dead end and then blocked me in there with the jester winding lol

I was going the right way and they bamboozled me

The jester's too fat

[dawn phoenix]

that would be so cool ngl

maybe turn him damageable if outright killing him is too powerful

[scenic dune]

It could only work if he was popped out maybe, and the pipebomb would have a timer on it so you'd need to risk putting it on him right before he pops

[mint isle]

put a free one in a mailbox somewhere hidden on gordion

[scenic dune]

The bug still happens even with a new save 😦

Completely new save

Neither version 2.8.4 or 2.8.5 work for us

[steady trail]

Lol?

Gimme your modpack and lemme try loading it.

Just tried running with the mods that raised errors and launched just fine.

Actually wait.

You're using BetterSaves.

erghhh

BetterSaves doesn't actually delete the LGU file.

So it's prolly still loading the same one you were trying to get rid of.

[faint ridge]

Folks over at TooManyEmotes get the same issue. After unistalling TooManyEmotes the bug was never seen again

Just so you know I didn't read all of the messages. I just saw the issue on two different mod theads and remembered that I got rid off it by removing TooManyEmotes

[scenic dune]

we have the more emotes but its possible that could be causing it

I'll test bettersaves and more emotes

018cb852-3b25-0302-d8ec-37b34dcc3286

this is our modpack

[steady trail]

MikeTweaks just breaks on boot so I'm just gonna turn that off.

LethalProgression doesn't like whatever other mod and just keeps crashing.

Because I turned that off and it works fine

And when I ran this mod and LethalProgression only, it worked fine.

[acoustic root]

mikestweaks broken for u too?

[steady trail]

I mean

I got someone else's modpack and I just see it crashing instantly.

So there's no real point having it on.

[gilded harness]

For this mod how do I make it to where everyone gets the upgrades instead of everyone individually have to buy it

[steady trail]

Misc section has "Share all upgrades" entry.

[gilded harness]

sorry but where is misc section? :0

[steady trail]

In the configuration file.

[gilded harness]

like this?

[steady trail]

You have to run the mod first.

So that the config file can be generated.

[gilded harness]

hmm I ran the mod but I'm not seeing anything new, like I loaded a lobby too in case as well

[steady trail]

[gilded harness]

i'm so noob at this 😭

[steady trail]

Ah

You searched.

That's why.

It's not called lateUpgrades

It's called MoreShipUpgrades.

[steady trail]

Don't worry. I'm just blind.

[gilded harness]

ooo ty!

so when I do this edit does everyone else in my lobby have to have to same config edit?

[steady trail]

No, your config is sent to others when they join.

[gilded harness]

gotcha thanks!

[steady trail]

That is the prayer anyways.

[gilded harness]

:0

do you think if I save my modlist as a code with this edit will everyone that updates their profile have this edit?

🤔

[steady trail]

The code also reflects config changes, yes.

[gilded harness]

😎 bet tyvm for helping me

[paper lantern]

are the prices for the different creatures and tiers of Hunter known?

like does spider and thumper give more than snare flea and hoarder bug?

[indigo prawn]

Yeah they progress in value as you would expect them to. Can't remember the exact ranges though and it's set in unity inspector so it's not on git

Configurable and visible when I'm done the mod jam mod

[paper lantern]

alright, good to know, thanks

[grand kestrel]

does anybody experience upgrades not working sometimes? like I buy hunter and it withdraws the money, puts it to level 3 in terminal. but actually it is still level 1...

I play with my friends on the modded client and we experience it too much, and it is too frustrating to not be able to do nothing about it. tell me if anybody has a fix (except deleting all other mods)

[steady trail]

So you didn't get samples from spiders/bracken/half/Eyeless dogs?

[peak raven]

actually I just did a solo trip with running shoes lvl 4 and bigger lungs lvl 4 and after I went back to orbit they were not working anymore. When playing with friends it sometimes stops working the second I pick up an item

[steady trail]

Strange Objects?

[peak raven]

Might be yeah, but on the solo trip I just did I picked up a strange object and it still worked

It stops working 100% of the time when I go to orbit

[steady trail]

Sloth forces their own movement speed on the player whenever you pick it up.

I don't know about the orbit issue one, it has always persisted on my end.

[peak raven]

I just tested: as soon as the door close automatically it stops working

Went to a moon, did nothing but left as as soon as I landed

[steady trail]

What are the mods you are using.

[peak raven]

Maybe its Coroner.
Got 58 Mods in total: 018cbb53-5fe3-18c2-38a5-b7bf27994cc8

[steady trail]

Coroner doesn't touch player's movement speed.
It just checks the causes of death of each corpse to display it in the end screen.

[peak raven]

yeah wasn't it, was thinking it was the cause because it stopped the moment the door closed

[steady trail]

It's Strange Objects, they reset the movement speed

[peak raven]

oh alright thanks, I'll get rid of that then

[compact hollow]

Going back a tad to the peeper discussion, so it was broke in 8.5, is it working on 8.4? That way there’s the new items still?

[steady trail]

It's working fine in last patch, last I checked.

Only issue with it is that if the coil head goes to patrol mode, it ignores the peeper.

[scenic dune]

disabled bettersaves and more emotes, still happening

[compact hollow]

Ahhh, I c. Better than him chasing me ig 😂, thx!

[scenic dune]

wait it worked!

@steady trail mikestweaks was breaking it

[steady trail]

Not surprised.

[scenic dune]

I remember you mentioning that last night so I wanted to test it out to see and it finally worked

do you know of an alternate mod to use for our hotbar configs?

like f for flashlight toggle and 1234 for our hotbar

that's the only reason we were using mikestweaks

[steady trail]

Isn't there like.

HotbarPlus?

[scenic dune]

but even I noticed there was bugs with mikes tweaks

the walkie never worked with r at all

and I have a theory that mikestweaks was causing our hotbar bug issues where we couldn't interact with anything or use our hotbar after picking something up

[steady trail]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/FlipMods/HotbarPlus/ Yeah.
It gives numeric hotkeys to the hotbar.

The f for flashlight, well

I just use FlashlightToggle, haha.

[scenic dune]

yay!

time to reconfigure lategame for the 10th time lol

hope this fixes the weird upgrade bugs we were having

on the older patch our upgrades kept sharing with everyone even though I had it turned off

and our upgrades kept saving from our previous save

[steady trail]

Oh yeah.

That's because BetterSaves makes their own delete button and we don't have a patch for that.

[scenic dune]

deletes delete button

is bettersaves causing our upgrades to transfer over?

[steady trail]

Because we aren't deleting the LGU saves, yes.

[scenic dune]

even when we use lgu reset we always have nv headset batteries unlocked lol

[steady trail]

That's normal

[scenic dune]

is bettersaves also causing the issue where every upgrade is shared client wide even when I have the option turned off?

[steady trail]

And you have each upgrade's individual set to true?

[scenic dune]

yep yep

[steady trail]

Sounds like config syncing things?

Because supposedly host's config is sent to all who join.

[scenic dune]

should I just have all of my friends delete lategame and the confi files?

[steady trail]

I mean

Sure?

I don't know if it will fix the issue though.

[indigo prawn]

are you the host?

[scenic dune]

ye

[indigo prawn]

and you have the misc shared upgrades option off?

these won't do anything if the one above I sent is true

[minor peak]

if someone buys an upgrade does everyone in the group gets it as well

[peak raven]

thats exactly what those 2 pictures above you show, sharing the upgrades is disabled by default but you can enable it

[warped hemlock]

If its set in configs for upgrades to be shared then thats the idea yes.

[minor peak]

everyone needs to put it like that on the config orr only the host

[steady trail]

Only the host as their config is sent to others that join.

[grand kestrel]

Nah it is something unrelated. Like even if it is level 1 upgrade and I upgrade it to next one it says "upgraded to level 1". and on terminal it will be showing level 2 but in reality it is level 1...

one time we even had a thing where baboon hawk weren't dropping samples (from hunter upgrade) but eyeless dogs, thumpers still did...
so it basically skipped 1 level???

[steady trail]

Baboon hawk sample not spawning is known issue.

And I'm trying to figure out what their actual name is.

I didn't know about the thing with levels though. That's first time I'm hearing.

[civic jewel]

i know in the past we had upgrade levels not showing properly visually, but they were working in practice

it was a visual bug that im unsure if was ever fixed

[dawn phoenix]

huh

[steady trail]

Pfff.

[mint isle]

hmmm

oobleterra messing with the id's of tiems for sure

[indigo prawn]

#1190754347215228958 message

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[elfin mountain]

Peeper didn't work, was on a modded map with a mansion, but overall it just kinda. . . did nothing

tried replacing it and such

(wateridge if needed)\

[compact hollow]

Yeah, sadly as of current update peeper seems pretty broken

[steady trail]

Ehh?

[indigo prawn]

Kinda wanna just set it back to the bool method patch that seemed to work pretty reliably except for some conflicting mods

[mystic swallow]

How do I turn on night vision? I bought it and rebinded the key, but I cant activate it?

[steady trail]

Which key?

[mystic swallow]

RightAlt

[cosmic harness]

did you buy the night vision goggles and put them on?

[mystic swallow]

how do I put them on?

[cosmic harness]

buy night vision goggles

it’s an item

[cosmic harness]

use this command

tbh i was also confused at that

[exotic bobcat]

peeper for me was not working earlier does someone need to be on the terminal to work?

[steady trail]

The coils are slow on purpose.

[indigo prawn]

Oh yeah that looks fine. Maybe it's still just other mods conflicting then

Why are they slow that's another mod not ours right

[steady trail]

Yeah.

I'm using GameMaster.

Where I accidentaly put it to maximum speed.

[indigo prawn]

Alrighty sounds good then. Sucks modifying update on an enemy, not a good chance any two mods doing the same will play nice together.

Although maybe I should write a little compatibility warning thing. Scan for certain mods and logerror in the chat saying what behaviour / break it will result in.

[steady trail]

Damn, they floaty.

[indigo prawn]

Sounds like a pretty nasty can of worms but could save some headaches in here

Haha

[exotic bobcat]

so its not broken?

[steady trail]

I just showed it's not.

This is from the Thunderstore btw, not from the git compile thingy.

[viral sorrel]

#1190825003072102420 just posted this in #1188298686560739389, would make a cool item for LGU if you are looking for suggestions rn

[indigo prawn]

Sure

[elfin mountain]

no clue which mods would effect that

[indigo prawn]

Can you send screenshots of your list

[eager swift]

Is there a mod or a config that makes it so that upgrades apply to everyone instead of just one person

[grand kestrel]

#1178407269994594435 message

you change that to true

[eager swift]

what about the one below that?

arent those both pics the same, why are there 2 different configs for the same thing

[steady trail]

Because ones global, the other is specific?

[grand kestrel]

exactly, the setting below is tied to one of upgrades. so if you put everything to be shared (if true on the first pic) it will not matter what you have set in individual settings of every upgrade

[eager swift]

whats up with the attitude, i was just asking normally

[steady trail]

And I was answering normally.

[indigo crescent]

Hey 👋 my health bonus doesn't go back to 0 when I restart a game on the same save

[steady trail]

Better Saves?

[rancid pivot]

it mightve just set your current health to 160 for that moon

[indigo crescent]

Better saves yeah, also it kinda got reset after the first moon so

[steady trail]

Better Saves doesn't delete LGU saves.

It also reshuffles the saves past the count of 9.

Unless they fixed it?

No, still the same commit as before.

[indigo crescent]

Also I've setup in lethal expansion a starting deadline of 2 instead of 3 and when we restarted a game with my friends, the starting deadline was 3 like in vanilla. Can it be because of better saves too ?

[steady trail]

That, I cannot answer.

I just know that BetterSaves currently does not delete LGU saves.

You can always type "reset lgu" anyways.

[rancid pivot]

i believe thats because your current health was set to 160 for the upgrade and theres no check to compare if thats what you should be at (above max hp)

you should be at 100 but there isn't really a "max health" its more of "this health should be the most you can reach" so you can go above, but it'll get reset back to normal 100 when leaving a moon as the game would force you to what should be max to heal you

[acoustic root]

there seems to be some incompatibilites with mikestweaks?

[candid crater]

Disabling lighting rod in config makes it so stormy maps spam console with error and no lightings ever occur

[warped hemlock]

What version of lategame are you using?

[sleek flare]

Picture of the log also in another thread.
https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1191150424137412718

[steady trail]

Yeah, I'm just testing if everything's alright after the fix.

[sleek flare]

Cool, was just looking there for another bug and saw it.

Enjoy the mod btw.

[steady trail]

It was because the variables we're using to catch lightning were stored in a script which is only loaded when it's enabled.

I will make a merge with it into the git soon enough.

Now I'm gonna have a couple of shots.

[sleek flare]

Nice, enjoy them!

[steady trail]

There

[lost thunder]

Is 2.8.5 the correct version? We aren't having things like protein powder show up on the store

[steady trail]

Do you have them turned off in the config?

[lost thunder]

default config, no changes

[steady trail]

Uhh.

Show me the store real quick.

[lost thunder]

one moment

Just got fired lol

[steady trail]

Nice.

[lost thunder]

https://i.imgur.com/Klmv0Cj.png

[sleek flare]

Type lgu

[lost thunder]

that worked! Ty!

[sleek flare]

Np, type in lategame for some info for the mod

[paper lantern]

has anyone noticed hunter proccing "twice" for snare fleas and dropping a second, seemingly only client-side uninteractable no-value sample?

I have apparently been the only one in my group to experience it, also only noticed it in a game where i was not the host, so that may be part of it

as it's uninteractable and the real one also drops, it doesn't actually cause any issues, but kinda odd

[grand kestrel]

yeah i have it every time

[paper lantern]

It's pretty consistent, but again seemingly harmless

Oh, it also makes teleporting with snare fleas, not work quite right the first time, including just going through an exit door

It kills the bug (often teleporting it to the ship) and leaves me, the client, still where I was

[grand kestrel]

at some point my friends had problem where they couldn't hit the snaraflea after being attacked and picking up a shovel, but i don't know if it was related to late upgrades

[storm mauve]

is there any way to exit the lockpick screen?

[prisma swallow]

Should Strong Legs also reduce fall damage?

[candid crater]

latest version (2.8.5)

[warped hemlock]

Latest version is pretty buggy. Best version in my opinion that has the latest stuff and less issues is 2.8.3

[indigo prawn]

It says escape in the top right

Press escape

[storm mauve]

haha thanks as soon as I went up to the first locked door I found a thumper found me

[heavy hamlet]

Peeper doesn't seem to be working

[steady trail]

Are you just using this mod?

[heavy hamlet]

No

but i am pretty sure non of the mods i am using are incompatible with it

[steady trail]

Well.

I just tested it and it was working fine with latest patch.

So

[heavy hamlet]

oh

that might be it actually

is thunderstore up to date? because there it says V2.8.0

[steady trail]

It is.

The version only changes when making a new update, not hotfixes.

[heavy hamlet]

I don't know then

Tried testing it earlier today with some friends and all we ended up with was a 2 beheadings and a funny clip

[steady trail]

[heavy hamlet]

here are the mods we were using if thats any helpful
018cc5a7-ed02-885e-6ec4-4251008c0061

[steady trail]

Great.

Now to figure out why it is not compatible with MoreCompany.

Oh.

Ohhhhhh

They basically just copy paste the code and put it on a prefix method and just return false.
Meaning it will never execute the vanila code which is what we changed through transpilers.

they only had to change the 4 from for (int i = 0; i < 4; i++) into StartOfRound.Instance.allPlayersScript.Length or StartOfRound.Instance.allPlayersScript.Count

At least BiggerLobby does a better job on this regard.

[indigo prawn]

Average return false user

[steady trail]

[indigo prawn]

Is it not on GitHub?

People can't make pull requests?

[civic grove]

Is there a different workaround than forcecredits to rebuy upgrades?

[indigo prawn]

Really didn't expect that

[indigo prawn]

No I don't think so. Unity explorer and evaluate increment and unlock methods or edit save file

[steady trail]

Apparently it's not.

And I don't see any transpilers in the decompiled code.

[civic grove]

I noticed people don't get upgrades if they join after we bought it. Is there a way to sync the upgrades to them?

[steady trail]

There's load lgu <playerName>

[indigo prawn]

Yeah I see a ton of bools though that's too bad

[steady trail]

[indigo prawn]

And the creator isn't in this server anymore

That's really annoying. There's so many areas of the game that mod will break other mods that it doesn't have to and it's the most popular and impactful mod.

[peak raven]

I'm using MoreCompany, would you recommend using BiggerLobby in that case?

[steady trail]

If you want the peeper working, yeah.

[peak raven]

alrighto thanks

[steady trail]

Lemme just test it real quick so that I'm actually not saying random crap.

Because I just looked at the code, not actually see it doing it.

[elfin mountain]

bit late on dis one

[steady trail]

Yeah, BiggerLobby does not affect the Peeper.

[indigo prawn]

More company breaks the peeper

[elfin mountain]

damn

[indigo prawn]

And anything that does anything to coilheads, dress girl, and more 🙃

[steady trail]

[elfin mountain]

bigger lobby is buggy though, so I dunno
Guess ain't doing more than just me though]\

Lethal Alone hours

Also, for whatever reason, the brackern and baboon hawk jams are swapped in the hotbar

(its hard to see but its there)

[steady trail]

I mean

All it does is change a 4 into a variable number.

And the variable number is affected by how many players you allow in the lobby.

So if there's 16 players to check.

It will check all 16 players.

[elfin mountain]

Still bugged out and always put one person in the v o i d
even when the upper limit was right

[steady trail]

Void?

That's new.

[elfin mountain]

Camera stuck out of the ship while they couldn't move

[steady trail]

Also I like how they just make the girl invisible when she touches the player.

Hmm

I can't really do much about that.

MoreCompany's way of solving more players is not ideal either.

[elfin mountain]

Yeah, peeper is less needed when not solo anyways

so I guess its fine for now

[steady trail]

Stop annoying me, you little shit.

[elfin mountain]

Shotgunned him and no jam D:

[steady trail]

Yeah, baboons are special.

Sooner or later, I will figure out their actual name.

[elfin mountain]

Hrm? What do you mean

[steady trail]

We have a list with enemies names.

We get enemy that died's name.

Check if it's inside the list.

It apparently doesn't for baboon.

I tried "Baboon Hawk", "Baboon hawk", "baboon hawk", ...

Even when I print out their name and match it to the list.

It just doesn't.

Maybe today I will try fixing that.

[compact hollow]

Does anyone know of the weird glitch that makes loot fall into/through the ship? I don’t think it’s caused by lgu but it affects it

5 of my valuable items fell into the ship, so now they are with me but j can’t collect them. But technically they are outside, so the “scan scrap” command won’t scan anything inside the facility anymore

[nova talon]

Hey, how much damage does the discombobulator do?

Sorry if this has been asked before, I can't figure out how to ctrl+f these threads lol.

[steady trail]

In the config, related to the Discombobulator section.

[indigo prawn]

I believe this is a vanilla parenting issue that can just occur sometimes, it's not dangerous though you wont lose anything it just teleports to the position the ship will be at

[nova talon]

perhaps i should look at stuff before asking questions... thank you!!

[steady trail]

Anytime.

[compact hollow]

Ahhh, ok

Thx tho!

Another question lol, is the shotgun also boosted by protein powder?

[steady trail]

No, we only made a patch on the shovel.

[compact hollow]

Probably not since our strength does not affect bullets lol

[steady trail]

That's why the stop sign and yield sign don't get the effect.

[compact hollow]

Yeahhh ok that makes sense XD thought I’d ask tho :p

Thx man!

[indigo prawn]

shouldn't they since they inherit shovel

[steady trail]

Oh, they do?

[indigo prawn]

that's too bad

yeah I thought they were just shovels that can be sold as scrap

[steady trail]

Hmm

I mean, I could be just speaking giberish but last I checked with the stop sign, still had to hit the thumper 4 times.

[indigo prawn]

damn that's too bad

[steady trail]

@indigo prawn Nevermind, they do.

I don't know what happened then.

[indigo prawn]

oh good

[steady trail]

Maybe it made the hit sound but it actually didn't hit?

[indigo prawn]

I've had some really weird experiences with hits yeah could be

[steady trail]

I'm gonna try to look at the icon issue, I guess.
Let's see if the editor doesn't immediately crash.

[indigo prawn]

@steady trail I'll do icon don't worry about that

[steady trail]

Oh okay.

It's just a switcheroo anyways.

[indigo prawn]

Yeah I have it open rn, should we push to thunderstore today? It's at a pretty good place right?

[steady trail]

Besides the issues related to sales, yeah.

I fixed the baboon sample not spawning so.

The portable teleporter I don't know because the dude DM'ed you or something so I have no idea how's that.

The Mike's incompatiblity is just I don't know how much I can do in that regard because I would have to not assume where certain code instructions will be.

And rather make more for loops til I find the right place to put our instruction.

Like I did with Back Muscles, I guess.

In theory, it shouldn't mess with any other mod that also decides to change the weight of the player.

[indigo prawn]

I think he said the removal of private set dll fixed it so we should be good

still don't get why though is set not inherently private? oh well if it works it works

[steady trail]

Unless they make a prefix return false, of course.

[nova shuttle]

saw the update on thunderstore but theres no patch notes. whats new?

[steady trail]

I think it's just fixes.

No new thing was added.

Generally new stuff is when we change the second number instead of the third.

[compact hollow]

Is the pweeper back to normal?
👉👈

XD

[steady trail]

well

If you don't have MoreCompany, yes.

Otherwise no.

Because their way of patching enemies is not the greatest.

[steady trail]

Because #1178407269994594435 message

[indigo prawn]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/malco/SellBodies/

for whoever was asking for it

[karmic garden]

yooo

how does this work

bodies are just found as scrap?

or you can pick up the body of enemies you kill?

[indigo prawn]

the latter

[karmic garden]

cooooooool

i need

LOVE IT