Lategame Upgrades

[civic jewel]

also, Player1 as opposed to player1

[frank ledge]

I breezed down the chats cause don't have time to read if there was other developments. Reply at work while on break.

[barren gale]

That works, but only it only says the discombobulator was synced, even though protein powder is also bought

Yeah we tried both capital and not

[civic jewel]

im currently waiting for a friend to hop in to verify

[indigo prawn]

I mean the splashscreen that shows up when you join a lobby with LGU the first time says something like "upgrades are applied to individuals only be default" with like 5 exclamation marks but yeah.

[civic jewel]

maybe we should add a really big neon sign pasted all over the ship about how upgrades are individual

[indigo prawn]

Haha

This whole journey has made me realize the really annoying tutorials in games that force you to move the camera and double jump and stuff so they know you know how to are actually really useful for a lot of the population

I thought everyone hated them but I think they're actually putting in a lot of work

[civic jewel]

yea, when i was in the military in regards to tech i learned i had to speak as if everyone was 5 years old and had never touched a computer before in their lives
not a fault of people here or anything necessarily, nor am i calling people here stupid

but being annoying is much more effective for us

[indigo prawn]

In all seriousness though yeah configuring the mod so that on default it's more intuitive is probably the right move. Most of the questions asked in here can be resolved if they read 7 words that are shoved in their face when the game launches and that doesn't work so I'd say it's a good sign to change the default.

[civic jewel]

unfortunately so, i did like the defaults being more individual focused but if its cut the same questions down to half or less id be a fan

[stoic quarry]

imo, it works better when the upgrades are shared between all players. lethal company is at its heart a co-op game, and encouraging others to spend all of the team's credits on only themselves seems like its kind of against the spirit of teamwork

[civic jewel]

but creating proper roles with individualized items alternatively encourages a more cohesive team with distinct roles, instead of everyone being a jack of all trades, giving each person more importance to their job

so while initially youd be correct, id argue by the end it encourage more coop

[urban heart]

@civic jewel found it out, host didnt have evisa hookgen smfh

[civic jewel]

grrrrrrrr im gonna tickle the hosts footsies so hard for fumbling the bag

[urban heart]

took a week to find this out btw

only he has had better scanner

for a week

[civic jewel]

oh my goodness

[urban heart]

unrecoverable fumbles

[civic jewel]

this poor fella

bashing his head against walls for no reason

[stoic quarry]

i see what you mean, but idk, i feel like not as many people play the game that way. i know my group for sure doesnt. the option is great for groups looking for that kind of playstyle tho

[civic jewel]

thats fair for sure, and absolutely why we gave the option for the config!
we realized that while we DO prefer individual, the game is a casual day at the end of it

so if people wanna share it all, go for it

[stoic quarry]

on an unrelated note, i think night vision upgrades might be sort of bugged? even after upgrading it feels the exact same, could just be placebo but i'd have to do more testing to confirm it

[civic jewel]

the difference between the battery from the first upgrade to last is from 9 seconds to about 15

[indigo prawn]

Just like how when you buy a flashlight or a shovel everyone gets the flashlight or the shovel

Shared upgrades makes everyone more independent and removes the co op aspect. Having them be individual like the rest of the game makes it more cooperative and dependant on eachother. But whatever people have fun doing.

[stoic quarry]

not using the defaults, these are the values i have for night vision which i suspect is why it might be working incorrectly

[civic jewel]

those are TINY values

that could absolutely be why you arent noticing a change

[stoic quarry]

which ones, 1st image or 2nd image

using those values the night vision by default lasts ~35 secs

[civic jewel]

the drain is so tiny from 0.1 lmfao

but i havent tested values in the 0.0xx area for sure, in my testing i honestly kept not noticing time changes unitl i timed it on my phones stopwatch

[stoic quarry]

i'll hop into a new file and get some data rq

drain multiplier: 0.024
startup cost: 0.02
upgrade decrease %: 30

default: ~41 secs
1st upgrade: ~58 secs
2nd upgrade: ~51 secs
3rd upgrade: ~48 secs

needless to say, something is definitely not working right
regen speed looks to be fine but i didn't time those

[civic jewel]

interesting, each upgrade decreasing time doesnt make much sense...let me try and look over

[sleek flare]

Might I suggest lowering the price of the upgrades considering since the prices didn't change after making client side? Seems pointless to have them clientside considering they cost the same amount if you have the upgrades effect everyone.

[civic jewel]

the prices were lowered, actually

thats also why sales exist

running shoes alone took a like 40% discount i believe since it was shared

[sleek flare]

Oh lol, I miss remembered a few prices then

What’s the highest a discount can go?

[civic jewel]

im not positive, but ive had a discount of like 40% so far

at my highest

[slender dagger]

Hello,
how can i make the late game upgrade work for the entire party?

[indigo prawn]

65 or 60%

[civic jewel]

under 'misc' change the config for shared upgrades

[sleek flare]

Ah ok

[indigo prawn]

Yeah I can add that in. Again the mod isn't really designed around the shared upgrades as it started as a mod for my friends and I and is continued to be made from that perspective.

But having a config option for that sounds important for people who do shared upgrades lol

[civic jewel]

im just here to annoy kieth and give him a hard time :p

[slender dagger]

Like this?

[civic jewel]

yes

oops

didnt mean to reply

[slender dagger]

but doesn't work

[civic jewel]

are you restarting your game?

[slender dagger]

yep

[civic jewel]

i definitely tested it earlier today and it was working, so its something on your end

[indigo prawn]

Do all your friends have that option set in their config or just you?

[slender dagger]

yep

[indigo prawn]

yep

[sleek flare]

Ah ok I see

[slender dagger]

oooooooooooooo sorry

[slender dagger]

all of the

them

[civic jewel]

what i meant to reply to you, was that i did the math myself incrementally and resulted in a 0.000648, which i thought was a too low %, but im testing it in rn and it is certainnly effective, im at almost 10 minutes and only like 60% through it
so im not sure specifically whats causing the upgrades to be a problem..

up to t3 i believe anyway

[indigo prawn]

What does the info command display for each level?

[civic jewel]

forgive my green ass screen as im timing how long this bitch lasts

[indigo prawn]

Oh right it doesn't calculate the speed for each level

[civic jewel]

this was with the preset value of 0.000648 i did the math on his 0.024 * 30% 3 times

is it just doing it from the base level? i thought i initially had it go from each level

cause it was suppose to base itself from nightVisionLevel

[indigo prawn]

If all clients have the same config and upgrades aren't sharing you're probably playing with more company or bigger lobby and created a kinda broken lobby with netcode that isn't really working. If you recreate the lobby it should be good.

If it's not that then I'm not sure.

[indigo prawn]

I did change it so instead of += it was = so it works with loading

[civic jewel]

ah icic

[slender dagger]

I had this mod that you said and several others, I deleted them all and left only what was necessary (I think) for your mod to work, the way I tested it was by the speed of the running shoes, my friend didn't even come close to my speed, and I changed the settings several times, I set them all to true, then just the "misc" to true, and still nothing
Does the Mod need anything else to work?

[slender dagger]

and yes my friend also did this to test

[civic jewel]

are you guys on v45 by chance?

of the game

[slender dagger]

We are

[civic jewel]

and youre also both on the steam version?

just trying to narrow down poss issues

[slender dagger]

Yes

[civic jewel]

the mod only needs these dependencies

so as long as they are all installed correctly im not sure why it wouldnt be working if you both have the same configs

because currently its all working for me

[slender dagger]

Okay, I'll test something else, If I don't get anything I'll come back here again
thanks for the help so far

[timber coral]

I got the same thing, peopel also can't get protein powder from the load command, and if you try and unload protein powder it removes the upgrade but doesn't remove it from the shop

[indigo prawn]

Yeah protein powder saving is busted rn forcecredits 123 to buy it back on load :/

[timber coral]

I was hosting lmao so I didn't want to leave

The bigger issue was that I couldn't just unload it

The shop still shows level 1 powder but my dead corpse after hitting a thumper 3 times with a stop sign says otherwise

[steady trail]

Noice.

Maybe this is why protein powder is not being saved, haha.

[civic jewel]

🙃

[mild trench]

I knew there was something up with protein powder, since it loaded Malware Broadcaster just fine when I played, but not that.

[hot drum]

Uhh weird question but you need to be online to be able to load upgrades?

(Internet got obliterated by a storm and im waiting for it to get fixed)

By load i mean the command

[steady trail]

If you already got the .dll file before the internet died, you should be fine.

In other words, if you got the mod before interned died, you should be fine.

[hot drum]

load lgu Player, that was it?

[steady trail]

Correct.

[hot drum]

Alright

Its kinda stuck like this

[steady trail]

That's normal, it doesn't refresh the terminal.
If you had any upgrades to load, they would appear in the chat window.

[hot drum]

Last time i played on this save file i had maxed running shoes

Now they arent here after i load

[steady trail]

When was the last time?

[hot drum]

Like yesterday

Still had internet

[steady trail]

Is this the only mod you have?

[hot drum]

Nope

[steady trail]

Besides dependencies, of course.

[hot drum]

I should send the mods right

[steady trail]

Yeah, it would probably help.

[hot drum]

This is everything

[steady trail]

[hot drum]

Yeah

Also now i realised im changing brutal reborn for brutal plus

It got more configuration

[indigo prawn]

A lot of the issues from this update are from me copy pasting things and forgetting to tweak them lol.

[indigo prawn]

If you're on lan you won't have a steam id. Your upgrades are saved under your steam id. Use forcecredits 123 to get back the upgrades you remember

[hot drum]

Love yall for the help

[granite moth]

wait, are upgrades saved with the save file or do you have to do some weird stuff to get your upgrades back every single time you load in?

[indigo prawn]

Saved

[lucid sinew]

whenever i try to buy the protien powder it says pro flashlight

[steady trail]

How are you typing to buy the perk?

[lucid sinew]

by just typing it, is there another way?

[steady trail]

I meant what are you typing.

[lucid sinew]

wait was i misplelling it 😭

god im so dumb

mb 😭

[steady trail]

It's okay.

At least it wasn't a problem with the code.

[craggy meadow]

hi, quick question. are all the upgrades automatically given to everyone or does it only apply to the person who bought it

[steady trail]

I believe default value in the configurations are Individual.
if you want the perks to be shared between, you will have to change the configurations.

[craggy meadow]

so lets say if i want "back muscles" to be shared between everyone ill have to change "individual purchase" to false?

is there anything else i should do?

[stoic quarry]

you can go to the misc section and set all upgrades to be shared

[craggy meadow]

ahh icic

thanks for the help

[nova talon]

Hey, has anyone been able to get the load command to work? I've been trying to get the upgrades loaded for someone who joined late and I can't seem to get it to work

this is my mod profile code if that helps: 018c7e54-fbb9-96fc-2a07-c0ce1ba10ce3

[nova talon]

wait, is this the new command? So if someone wanted to load my upgrades, the command would be "load lgu BadDrFinn"?

[hot drum]

Nope

No steam names yet

Player is the host

[nova talon]

ohhhhhhhh

you are a saint

[hot drum]

Player1 is the second person that joins

[nova talon]

is there a slash before the command? and you just type it into text chat, right?

[steady trail]

Terminal.

[nova talon]

Thank you!

[spring chasm]

Alright, that one is on me, but I would seriously recommend the option to be left off on default. The majority of people do not want to have individual upgrades, so just keep it in mind when developing this mod further around individual purchases

[indigo prawn]

Yep, like the message two under the one you replied to says, it's going to become default.

[mild trench]

I think the problem is that the upgrades are all way too powerful to let every single player have every single one, but it doesn't always feel good to not share some of them. That's why so many people want that as the default.

[steady trail]

At least they can change it to their liking.

[civic jewel]

Yea that's why we let there be so much in the config you can change, make life ezpz to choose what people would want to share, and wouldn't

I will however be the largest advocate for all individuals

[mild trench]

I agree with the idea behind it being for individuals, I just play with a big group so the mod seems a bit more unstable as a result.

I do like the individual upgrades to tailor each player towards something. Like I usually get the shovel damage buff, a friend gets strong back cause he likes to bring many items in

[civic jewel]

Usually for some reason I just can't stand Dine, but I am the van jockey for dine and I have so much fun being the malware broadcaster guy

i tested it and it worked for me @indigo prawn, but unsure if it were a fluke or not

[indigo prawn]

ah ok, and you tried restarting and loading into the save with beekeeper?

Cause I see load() isn't using the saved beeLevel so that could be where it's coming ffrom

[civic jewel]

i didnt reload, but i did load lgu and it showed all but protein

[indigo prawn]

gotcha

[civic jewel]

couldve been a fluke, but it was because i wanted to verify whatever bugs were bein posted

better saves v1.5 seems to be a problem, but apparently 1.4 works

[indigo prawn]

Yeah ik I just made a remarkably stupid mistake on the PR I'll get another one up soon and actually test it this time

[civic jewel]

we got the intern vs interns discrepancy, the spectating ui not fully removing, players being unable to be teleported after becoming an intern, peeper not fully workin as more than a delay tool

what else...

[stoic quarry]

sorry to bother but what conclusion did you come to about the night vision thing from last night

[indigo prawn]

I just hopped on and so far have done just a few simple things

Added config to disable intro screen from displaying, switched some default config values, made it so if shared_upgrades is true in config when clients join they automaticcally copy the hosts upgrades, fixed the bee thing, fixed protein powder loading and saving

and some peeper issues

[civic jewel]

fantastic, i saw a couple prs which just need some slight edits formatting wise to follow the rest of the stuff we have

[indigo prawn]

oh yeah we have 3

[steady trail]

Hue.

[civic jewel]

there he is

[steady trail]

Well

[indigo prawn]

looking at yours rn that's pretty cool you made one

[steady trail]

I just looked at the suggestions and was like
"This shouldn't be too difficult"
Spent three hours trying figure out how to get the booster that I wanted.
Lightning rod was nice.

[civic jewel]

ideally i wanna try and get it to work as a final upgrade for lightning rod/disc where it has a chance to kill up to one entity around the ship like a dog, make it as a final upgrade for both trees
make it so the lightning rod has a % chance to take lightning to the ship, store the energy, and release it at final tier

[steady trail]

Actually, I could have just used a patcher on radar booster. That would have prolly worked.

[indigo prawn]

what does the vanilla flash command do on a radar booster?

[steady trail]

Say "Hello"

Literally.

[indigo prawn]

I thought that was ping

[steady trail]

It's just for when players are lost.

Wait

You said flash.

I read ping

Hahah

Flash is basically flashbang.

[civic jewel]

yea flash does what a flashbang does

[stoic quarry]

@civic jewel

[civic jewel]

silly kieth made it so it wasnt changing from each new level you had from nv, should be fixed next update

[mild trench]

Malware broadcaster is one of the most fun upgrades easily, since being able to weaponize turrets and mines against creatures is a blast

[steady trail]

Also against your teammates.

[mild trench]

Nothing more satisfying than detonating a turret on top of a thumper

Does the bracken also die to landmines and turret explosions?

[steady trail]

I think it takes two?

I'm not sure.

[civic jewel]

ive one hit a spider with explosion iirc

and that takes more than a bracken

[steady trail]

Oh wait, yeah.

You can one hit bracken with landmine.

I just remembered that video with the flashbang on the mine with bracken chasing.

[indigo prawn]

idk much about that scenario but the assignment probably shouldn't go back to +=
if anything the formula should be changed if nescessary.

Having it how it was on += made it so if you loaded a save the values would be different.

I guess I could change it back to += and have the load() call AdjustNightVisionProperties() with i in a for loop

yeah that would work

[civic jewel]

yea it would, in my limited testing it worked fine for me when i originally pushed it

but it was a very condensed test done by me, me, and me

[bright stirrup]

hello! is there a way to not lose the upgrades on game exit and rejoin

[civic jewel]

are you using better saves?

[bright stirrup]

as we bought some stuff but the next day we didnt have any upgrades

oh i should check it! should i get it?

[civic jewel]

better saves is an incompat with us rn, so it doesnt work with us

it is so far the most common issues for items being gone on reloading a save

[bright stirrup]

oh we dont have it installed

[civic jewel]

what version are you on? v45 of the game and v2.6.1 on the mod?

[bright stirrup]

but reallt good mod guys it really changed our gameplay ! yeah both correct

[civic jewel]

alright ill see what i can replicate then, would you be able to show me your modlist? everything besides protein powder loads for me on a fresh save

[indigo prawn]

If you're playing on lan or a pirated copy or anything that would prevent a steamID from loading saving and loading won't work at the moment as well.

[bright stirrup]

we play all at steam with online!

but i can send you my mod list 😄

aprecciate the effort tho! hope we havent messed up somehow

[civic jewel]

i know terminal api caused some problems with other users, but im not sure how thatd impact saving
it wouldve just made it so you were unable to purchase things

[bright stirrup]

oh i see. well when we rejoin our world we usually lose the points so that we have to rearrange them on the skill tree and the upgrades. also when i use load lgu it says player 1,2,3 instead of the steam_name that is suggested as a command in the page

maybe it doesnt recognise us as players

if i type my name it cant find me

[civic jewel]

right now steam names dont work, youd have to type in the player slot which you are

as example, the host would type load lgu Player, the second person to join would type load lgu Player1, so on and so forth

[bright stirrup]

yeah figured after a while. also the message wait 5 secs stays forever after the load lgu player

[indigo prawn]

C:\Users\YOUR_PC_USER\AppData\LocalLow\ZeekerssRBLX\Lethal Company

Can you send the LGU_ files at this location?

[bright stirrup]

yeah let me try and see!

[indigo prawn]

You can hit the windows key + r then enter %appdata% and hit run to get to your AppData

[bright stirrup]

yeah found it 😄

[civic jewel]

boy everything sure is false

[bright stirrup]

yeah xD but i dont know why is that 😛

[indigo prawn]

yeah I wonder why

[indigo prawn]

when you close your game do you alt f4 or do you close the lobby normally?

[bright stirrup]

i do quit from the game

[indigo prawn]

Alrighty I'll try look around but I don't have an answer for you at the moment.

For the time being if you don't already know you can use the command forcecredits 123 in the terminal to set your credits and re purchase upgrades :/

[bright stirrup]

oh isee! i hope i didnt messed anything but i just close the game from the quit menu . havent messed around with the cfg as well

so apparently it just turned off all the upgrades i bought

[civic jewel]

for the off chance things dont save, if people run into the issue we could make a save command which lets people manually save items no?

ie save lgu saving everything lgu related

[bright stirrup]

if this is a rare bug maybe its something with the modlist interfering with lgu

[indigo prawn]

Yeah we could I just wonder how much value it would bring or if it would work. Doesn't hurt to try but the saving is reasonably straight forward. The fact that it registered and saved multiple clients but not their upgrades is the most confusing to me.

That means the host was receiving RPCs from the clients and did a successful save but not with the right values somehow lol

[civic jewel]

oh for sure, i just figure on the off chance things dont work having more fall backs dont hurt

[indigo prawn]

yeah

[civic jewel]

like having force credits, credit sync are great

[indigo prawn]

are you guys playing right now?

[bright stirrup]

ye!

i mean everything is cool i was just wondering if i missed smth or if i did smth to mess with the lgu . we dont mind the upgrades resetting but it was weird

i aprecciate the effort tho being put into the matter

[indigo prawn]

If you could do me a favour and replace your save file with this one and tell me if some upgrades do or don't load that would be handy

That will be tied to the second save slot

[bright stirrup]

so this will replace lgu_1 right

[indigo prawn]

yes

[bright stirrup]

il give it a try sure

[indigo prawn]

thanks

[bright stirrup]

eveyrthing except protein powder seems to be working

both unlocked+lvl1

for me being the host

[indigo prawn]

ok gotcha thanks that narrows it down.

[bright stirrup]

will this affect other players too?

[indigo prawn]

Ah the two others you had playing with you.

Type reset lgu to wipe the upgrades that got activated. Sorry about that

or delete the lgu save file and reload the save whichever is more convenient

[bright stirrup]

after the wipe i see nv headset batteries is lvl 1

i remmeber being this way before

[indigo prawn]

It always is 👍

[bright stirrup]

^^

[indigo prawn]

• Added config to disable intro screen from displaying,
• switched some default config values, * made it so if shared_upgrades is true in config when clients join they automatically copy the hosts upgrades,
• fixed the bee thing,
• fixed protein powder loading and saving,
• fixed peeper stuff
• added intern || interns
• hopefully fixed intern spectate hud
• fixed back muscle info
• fixed upgrade sales
• Added shared upgrade sales for shared upgrades crews
• Fixed saved objects becoming other objects on load.
• Fixed discombobulator info

@civic jewel if you wanna play and test some of these with me lmk

[civic jewel]

im free to

[still trellis]

Question

I bought a Protein Powder upgrade, but I didn't onetap a snre flea

Does hitting it off someone's face not damage it?

[civic jewel]

Not sure

[stoic quarry]

has any consideration been given to some sort of armor upgrade that makes you take less damage

[civic jewel]

its been talked about yea

[mighty kiln]

Am I dumb or

is this backwards? XD

[civic jewel]

it is calculated properly, but we do have it worded weird which we will change eventually
0.8% just means the total weight is only 20% of its original, you take a 80% decrease

[mighty kiln]

Do players have to rebuy upgrades if they died?

[mighty kiln]

Fair enough. Cheers for the clarification.

[civic jewel]

right now i think its only night vision you need to rebuy

on death

[mighty kiln]

Hm.

I ask cause I don't think Running Shoes is affecting my teammates.

A friend and I raced and I was significantly faster [we have the config set to upgrades for everyone]

[mighty kiln]

Oh

is there a way to activate Night Vision Goggles on Controller?

[indigo prawn]

Left alt lol

[mighty kiln]

Controller.

[indigo prawn]

Real gamers controllers have a left alt

[mighty kiln]

think my friend is using a basic Xbox controller

[civic jewel]

tell them to use keyboard

[mighty kiln]

We did. We already made fun of him for using controller lmao

[hoary remnant]

Well to be fair the one thing controller will always do better than keyboard at is anything movement related but kb&m is basically better at everything else 😞

[civic jewel]

i think it depends on the movement

anything vehicle related absolutely

also, for you who will want to know what happened but wont check thunderstore

we still have things to fix with the night vision drain and regen stuff on upgrade, but it all still functions

[timber coral]

@indigo prawn hey just so you know walkie gps doesn't seem to be buying for the whole group even when the config "Convert all upgrades to be shared" is on

[indigo prawn]

Oh ok thanks

[proven elm]

Hey yall, im sorry if this has been asked before, i read the FAQ and skimmed some of this thread, but I wasnt sure if when buying an upgrade, does it work for everyone? I tried looking on the mod page and didnt see any reference to anything saying that the upgrades affect only one person or all of them and havent had a run yet where i had enough money to test it out

[civic jewel]

its a config option, under 'misc' you can set all to shared, or go individually and select which are shared and not
(thank you for saying you checked both places i adore you)
as of latest version it should default to everyone i think? i think thats what we included but i cant recall, either way its in the config
to access the config in r2 modman itll be named the com.malco.moreshipupgrades
for manual installs itll be in your bepinex config folder with the same name

[proven elm]

Thank you! Very helpful response. I think im running the previous patch, but was planning to update anyway, ill check the configs though

[civic jewel]

alot of fixes this update, kieth and i were in a call for about 6 hours doin various testings and stuff like that
let us know of any issues you find so we can try and nail em

[proven elm]

Thank you, love the mod btw

[civic jewel]

thanks for downloading and playing!

[frank ledge]

this the changelog? actually noticing a distinct lack of changelog on the main page. :<

[civic jewel]

he forgot to change the header from v2.6.0

the text there is current for 2.6.5

[indigo prawn]

Oh yeah

[civic jewel]

what are you doing awake your ass was yawning up a storm

[frank ledge]

xD?

[indigo prawn]

Idk there's something wrong with me I'm always yawning

[civic jewel]

gonna have to knock you out and get you some real rest

[indigo prawn]

Haha

[acoustic root]

set up the config

but somehow

nightvision only works for one person

everyone has the battery

but when they activate nv nothing happens and it drains the battery

[fathom veldt]

I know someone already ask this but I don't really understand the answer because I'm not good at English
So if I set Individual Purchase to 'true' the money is still shared? and everybody lose money?

It cannot be seperated?

[civic jewel]

was able to replicate this bug, host maintains night vision ability, @indigo prawn instead all clients other than host encounter that bug we came across where it was killing the light source entirely, seems we fixed it for one person but not all

[prime gulch]

why is it that only the person who bought the upgrade gets it
i remember buying speed shoes in a lobby and it only applied to me
make it apply for everyone

[fiery rock]

you can change that in the config

[dry summit]

has anyone had a problem where you cant exit the terminal

[prime gulch]

i didnt see that at all
thanks anyways

[lethal vale]

I'm highly against setting the config default to share. If people can't bother reading the mod page then that's on them. People need to not just download mods without reading the info. Especially when they could come here and read a little to discover the answer quickly. Maybe add a (individual upgrades) tag to the end of the name?
Honestly it's a lose lose. Because you got all the people confused and upset coming in. The people who love the individual settings aren't in here cause they have no issue. Now if you change it you will see a flood of people going what happened? It's all shared now?! Is this a big?!?;

[steady trail]

Nice deja vu.

[indigo prawn]

oh yeah this is probably config syncing. Since we have JsonIgnore on the night vis color when it serializes and deserializes it becomes null. Should be an easy fix.

[indigo prawn]

Yeah I guess we'll see

[stoic quarry]

if the default is the only thing that changes then shouldn't people who already have it set to individual be unaffected

[steady trail]

Anyone that has the config already are not affected.
Because it's a default when no value is present.

[sharp flame]

hiya, ive been using lategameupgrades for a bit now but recently i havnt been able to load my upgrades that ive bought after reloading a save. when i use the load lgu player command in terminal it just gives me something like: (steam name) not found, we have found these names -> player, player (1), player (2), player (3). on the website i havnt been able to find anything about that.

[indigo prawn]

yeah just do load lgu player for the host

I must be pulling it from a weird place or something weird is happening so it's not getting the actual players name

[steady trail]

I think I found that.

Lemme just check real quick if it is indeed this.

Yeah..

You're using Object.name instead of PlayerControllerB.playerUsername.

[sharp flame]

okay so i just tested that, had an old save with 450 creds, bought one thing. it was the only one i bought. it then said "light footed activated" in chat. when i did "load lgu player" it said "light footed activated" for a second time in chat. then i reloaded the save, light footed was turned off. so i did "load lgu player" since it is just me in the lobby and i hosted it, and it didnt work

money was still gone

all while staying in orbit so game was saved

[strange sorrel]

Why is this labeled as client mod?

[indigo prawn]

where do you see this

[steady trail]

It's not?

[indigo prawn]

Interesting yeah I guess it's failing to load. Are you playing lan or on a pirated copy?

[strange sorrel]

Oh, confusing
I set my filter to client mods

Yeah that's my bad

Sorry

[sharp flame]

nope, online and bought the game

[indigo prawn]

Wait what do you mean by old save? How old?

from another older version of LGU or more recent?

[sharp flame]

i think more recent

[indigo prawn]

oh also if you have lc better saves it's problematic rn

[sharp flame]

but i can try with a newer save

[sharp flame]

oh shit

well

there it is

[indigo prawn]

yeah that's it

[sharp flame]

any other more saves mod that isnt problematic?

[indigo prawn]

I'm not aware of any others

if you downgrade lc better ssaves to 1.4.0 it's semi compatible

but if you delete a save it will become unsynced. When you delete saves with that mod they get shuffled around and renamed so the LGU save files will be tied to a different save.

[sharp flame]

with 1.4.0 lc better saves?

ait

[restive burrow]

Just a query - I'm having a little looksee in the config - if I change "True" to "False", would that mean it'll apply to everyone instead of just the buyer?

[indigo prawn]

If you don't have shared upgrades set to true yes

by default upgrades are shared but if you have an old config it may not be updated

[restive burrow]

I must have an old config then - just to confirm, setting it to false will mean it's shared?

[steady trail]

Yes.

[restive burrow]

Cool

Cheers

[indigo prawn]

Simplified night vision and improved the info to make it more transparent. Should be simpler for users to configure now too

and it takes into account the startup cost as well so it should be 100% accurate. Loading is also simplified so any discrepencies should be gone

[steady trail]

Something should appear on top right when holding.

[indigo prawn]

did you see the message pop up in chat?

when you purchased it

[steady trail]

[indigo prawn]

are you using another walkie talkie mod

[civic jewel]

Every change we make for the masses we get told we're wrong...

[steady trail]

Sadly we cannot satisfy everyone.

[civic jewel]

We still do try nonetheless

[indigo prawn]

Did 3 pull requests today. Adding some safety and flexibility to the project setup one and creating a little exe for people who don't have python rn.

So many prs came out of nowhere, really nice that some people are fixing bugs too.

[civic jewel]

looks like we can start yelling at whitespike to do stuff 😛

[steady trail]

Not necessarily yell but I can probably do it.

[civic jewel]

i want you to create kieth and i gettin a bazillion dollars

on my desk by tuesday

[steady trail]

Only if you turn me into a genie.

[civic jewel]

i dont know if youd wanna be a genie
stuck in there for god knows how long until someone finds you

[steady trail]

Better than dealing with people.

[civic jewel]

fair, i accept that

[steady trail]

[civic jewel]

i also tire of people

[steady trail]

Isn't unload supposed to turn the items in lgu back to locked?

[indigo prawn]

It should call Unwind() on BaseUpgrade. If it's not unwinding correctly then something is missing in that upgrades override of Unwind()

or it's not being called

[acoustic root]

just to chek the night vision still isnt getting fixed until later right

[steady trail]

Last I checked, it does indeed unwind the upgrade but it doesn't update the terminalNode associated.

So it will keep saying it's on while it's not.

I would show real quick but apparently something happened in the stringbuilder that killed the plugin from loading, lo.

Prolly because I didn't update the AssetBundle.

[civic jewel]

im currently noticing after build the shop is ded for me, actions not being associated so looking at that rn

from the latest push to git

[steady trail]

Yeah...

It just dies on boot.

[civic jewel]

alright so im not crazy

im just making additions right now to strong legs and i was like 'no shot i broke the world' and then reverted my changes and got the same issues lmfao

[steady trail]

Uh ho.

It's dying already on Beekeeper assuming the terminalNodes were from the items

Lemme try using the zip.

Instead of the output thing.

Which forces me to open Unity Editor, aaaaa

[civic jewel]

kieth made the prob and will get into it soon

so no big worries

[steady trail]

Oh well.
Coding in good faith it is.

[civic jewel]

i dont even touch unity and i just try and do basic lil shit for kieth
i like unity and all but im not tryna dig too deep

[steady trail]

I just used unity because of the networkobjects for the scripts. : , )

Took me like 5 hours to figure out the folder the assets were on had to be "ShipUpgrades" for the paths to not break.

[indigo prawn]

yeah don't touch the git rn give me a minute to resolve all this shit I've just been pushing for the sake of checkpoints throughout the resolutions

this asset bundle should resolve those though

[steady trail]

Yay, it didn't die.

[rich pebble]

Hi there! I had a quick question, I have a mod that adds "teleporter" items to be whitelisted. (Attached) The config looks like this and I was wondering if the "Portable Teleporter" was able to be added. Does it have an item name that I can place here?

[steady trail]

While it didn't die, it didn't have the "Lightning Rod" entry, so it didn't put the rest after that, lol.

[indigo prawn]

yeah ConstructNodes isn't happy rn

[indigo prawn]

Portable Tele
Advanced Portable Tele

should do it

and Peeper if you want that too

[rich pebble]

With spaces?

[indigo prawn]

Yes

[steady trail]

That's the item name for them, yeah.

[indigo prawn]

that's the item.itemName

[rich pebble]

Okay sounds good, also haha I love the Peeper! Havent gotten to use it yet but I love the concept!

[indigo prawn]

yeah it's cute

[steady trail]

Unless the game decides to remove them while processing, it should be that.

[rich pebble]

Gonna test it out now, thank you so much and keep up the amazing work!

[indigo prawn]

I think they're just doing .split(",") on their config so it should be good

[indigo prawn]

ah I forgot to copy the infojson file from your assets thing over. I think I'm gonna add instruction for PRs so that if assets are added they're added to a seperate "IncomingAssets<PR>.zip" file, didn't realize resolving .zips was gonna be so icky when I set it up

[steady trail]

Gotta love binary files.

[rich pebble]

Hm it looks like it doesnt work putting the item name in there, maybe its hard coded into the actual mod.

[indigo prawn]

what's the mod called

[rich pebble]

Just "BetterTeleporter"

by SirTyler

[indigo prawn]

oh it uses the type

[indigo prawn]

oops yeah I didn't read these these are types

[rich pebble]

:o i didnt know the difference sorry

[indigo prawn]

TPButtonScript
AdvTPButtonScript
coilHeadItem

all good

[rich pebble]

Oh! Nice okay lets see

Can I open .dll files in Visual Studio Code btw?

[steady trail]

If you use a decompiler, you should be able to.

[rich pebble]

Okay so it didnt work again

I think it might just be hardcoded into the plugin.

[steady trail]

No, it't just because our item's ToString() are like this.

[indigo prawn]

Ah

[steady trail]

We can override it to make it just the intended name.

[steady trail]

@rich pebble But yeah, it will probably work if you include everything before.

[rich pebble]

so its MoreShipUpgrades.UpgradeComponents.[Names]

[steady trail]

For now, yeah.

[rich pebble]

Okay lets test it out, thanks for working with me!

[steady trail]

We can change it to that it works with any plugin that uses item.GetType().ToString(), lol.

Well, work as in between config and dll.

[rich pebble]

Yeah I guess it just doesnt work, Im trying to figure out how to open dll files

[steady trail]

Huh.

[rich pebble]

Yeah it takes the flashlight but not the teleporters

[steady trail]

Apparently there's a log in the keep list.

You shoud be able to see it in the BepInEx console thingy,

Nevermind, it looks like it only logs in the clients when syncing configs. ;)

[stoic quarry]

any eta on a night vision fix? me and my group are kinda waiting until its not completely broken to play again

[steady trail]

Hm yes, virus.

[stoic quarry]

these files have working night vision?

[rich pebble]

🅱️irus

[indigo prawn]

yeah. Make sure you reset or change your config though. Some of the names for the night vision fields are I think the same but have drastically different default values.

[stoic quarry]

alright, cool

[indigo prawn]

alrighty so the lightning rod is more likely to attract lightning instead of your object based on how close you are to the ship. So if the lightning range is 100 units and you're 50 units away from the ship you have a 50/50 chance of the lightning targeting your object, or the ship. If it does decide to target the ship the sound effects and static electricity visual is removed from your object so you know you're safe.

[steady trail]

@indigo prawn

[indigo prawn]

God windows hates pyinstaller

[steady trail]

Pretty much.

I couldn't even delete the exe either.

Okay, I think I fixed it?

I don't know how but I did.

[steady trail]

Also this is what I meant at the time.

It should be a simple fix anyways.

Just turning a 1 to a 0.

[indigo prawn]

Yeah

Maybe I'll try pyoxidizer or nuitka or something

[odd kernel]

quick question what do interns do

[civic jewel]

its a revive of a dead player

[odd kernel]

oh is it one time per level or do you need to rebuy it

[civic jewel]

one time use, then repurchase

if a player is dead it revives them in the facility

ie, one time use per purchase

not one time use per level

so if 3 people are dead, you turn the monitor to one dead perosn, then buy intern, then switch monitor to another, and rebuy, then repeat

[odd kernel]

ok

yea ive been solo for the longest time havnt found a group to play modded with so this is usless for me

good to know cause i bought it once and didnt know what it did

thx for the info

[stoic quarry]

so does individual purchase do nothing on interns?

[odd kernel]

pretty much cause you would have to have someone buy it while monitor is on your body

so without some one to buy it for you, you cant revive yourself

[stoic quarry]

well yeah, but if it was set to shared then it would apply to everyone, which i'm guessing is just a mistake due to the nature of the upgrade

[odd kernel]

idk man ive only touched it once

[indigo prawn]

just copy paste nonsense yeah

same reason the teleporter had a shared option for a bit

[indigo prawn]

First of the complex upgrades tying the scanner upgrade to the ship scanner, also a bit of a nerf to better scanner, you have to wait until level three until you can do the scanning through walls and scanning enemies through walls is disabled by default.

First unlock just increases range,
Second unlock gives you two new commands, hives and scrap,
Third unlock lets you scan through walls. hives and scrap are meant to be used with the walkie gps and the scrap command should come in handy in the later moons

[granite moth]

the coordinates feel like they'll be a nightmare to use

[stoic quarry]

a system to lock your gps coordinates onto a scrap item would be very cool and appreciated, maybe as an upgrade to the gps itself

[indigo prawn]

If you've ever played minecraft you'll feel at home lol. Move in one direction, are the numbers moving in the direction I want them to? no -> move in other direction, yes -> continue moving in that direction

[indigo prawn]

Like it would show on your screen the coordinates of a selected item?

[stoic quarry]

yeah

[indigo prawn]

yeah I could probably throw that in

that's a good idea, a little expansion to the gps upgrade so that it also shows the nearest scrap item or most valuable. Hopefully I could make it so that it's subtle and doesn't take too much of your hud

I think I'll do that thanks, maybe add a keybind to iterate over them so there's not a ton of text the top right text just changes with a little label. Maybe first upgrade just shows your coordinates, second upgrade adds the option to see the nearest entrance/exit, third upgrade adds the option to see the nearest or most valuable scrap.

[stoic quarry]

having it direct you on the walkie talkie screen itself would be incredibly sick, but i have no idea how feasible that is, if at all

[stoic quarry]

yeah, that sounds great

[indigo prawn]

yeah I've thought about a couple of ideas for directing lost people. I think my favourite so far is creating navigation markers using the navmesh but idk if it's anything I'll act on

I could do simple things with the walkie talkie screen like have it change color or have a little icon pop up if you're heading the right direction/some sort of ui thing like that but putting a proper map on it with pathfinding I don't even want to think about rn

even metal detector style beeps lol

[stoic quarry]

i was thinking just simple stuff like turn left/right, go straight, etc. like an actual gps

audio cues could work for that actually

[granite moth]

in lethal company i cant dig through the walls to get there

[indigo prawn]

a metal detector object could be neat haha

[granite moth]

i have enough trouble making it back to the main entrance at certain times

(never forgiving those two people for leaving me with a coilhead and winding jester)

[frank ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/thonk-thinking-sun-thonk-sun-thinking-sun-gif-14999983

[mighty kiln]

Anyone bring up a possible store-item that is basically just a mobile-battery with an AoE?

Essentially it would only function if you're actively holding it [and maybe manually turn it on] with a radius around it that provides an "on/off" current for the service doors or even potentially lights in that room[radius].
It would have it's own battery that you can charge in the ship as well.

Would definitely help for the group that decides to pull the apparatus immediately and there's no power-box nearby.

[frank girder]

dont know if it has been said already, but the night vision goggles use key doesnt actually change when you update it in the config. it changes the chat message when you pick up the goggles, but still is used with LeftAlt.

[civic jewel]

Change the key to its capital variant, not its lowercase

[halcyon merlin]

is lgu for the entire lobby or just yourself

[civic jewel]

Either

[halcyon merlin]

is it like a textdoc we need to open and change?

or is it ingame

[civic jewel]

We have a massive config which lets you choose what is for the team and what is individual

[frank girder]

ahh okay thanks! that feels dumb that it only recognizes capital keys and not lowercase. is that an LC_API thing? not familiar with lc api

[civic jewel]

It'll be a long titled document in config named com.malco.moreshipupgrades.cfg

[civic jewel]

Unfortunately just when I got around to making it it seems weirdly case sensitive, I haven't gotten around to fixing it because it wasn't a big deal 😅

[frank girder]

it be like that LOL

also happy birthday!

[civic jewel]

Woah did I say that in here

Thank you!

[frank girder]

i was reading your github contribution to the mod and you had your twitter linked there, and it had the bday animation so thats how i saw hahah

[civic jewel]

Ah icic
Thanks a ton!
I'm getting old, big 26 today

[frank girder]

also 26, i feel you there

over the hump in our 20s now

[civic jewel]

You know what they say.... Young at heart right...?
Right????
Lmfao

[inner wharf]

Happy birthday!

Do you think at some point we could maybe see a config to toggle keeping certain items after failing quota/losing? Same ship different crew vibe

[glad sable]

question how come nightvision doesnt work for some people? anyone got a fix

All progress also seems to wipe after quitting game not saving properly?

[mild trench]

lol, happy birthday dude

[opal raptor]

Night vision doesn't seem to work for non-hosts in multiplayer

[steady trail]

Because we're too lazy to make a serializable colour right now.

So what's happening is that when clients join, we get host's config and put it into clients'.
So we serialize everything in the config and send it to the client, deserialize it and put it in the respective spots.
Problem is UnityEngine.Color is not serializable by default so we just ignore it while doing the JSON.
What ends up happening is that, since there was no value given for the color, it just defaults to 0, which is black.

Thus instead of having night vision, you have ... one of those things you use to cover the eyes while sleeping, lol.

[opal raptor]

Can we solve that somehow? It worked until a week or two ago

Or do we have to wait for a fix?

[steady trail]

That was because before we didn't sync configs so it used the value present in each config.
This wasn't a problem because it was already well formatted for each person in the lobby.

It can be fixed by making a serializable color.

But that's dev's problems, not user's.

User's cant really mess with the synchronization, I believe.

[opal raptor]

Rip, guess downgrade it is

[indigo prawn]

Yeah this was an easy fix and will be live soon

[opal raptor]

[civic jewel]

I fell asleep, but thank you for the birthday wishes @inner wharf and @mild trench :)

[mild trench]

a sleeping mask, lol

[mild trench]

Also do not feel old, I am 28

[civic jewel]

Mostly jokes!
I've had a bunch of experiences already and feel old, but I try and push through :)

[mild trench]

Also nerfing the better scanner was probably the right choice, that was always one of the first things my crew got since it was basically just "We can now find every item on the map"?

[indigo prawn]

yeah ikr, removing enemies from the scan by default I think will help not kill the vibe of the game too.

[mild trench]

I agree, enemies being visible on scanner before you even encounter them doesn't fit. Using sound cues to tell that a nutcracker is stomping around allows you to prepare for it without ruining the suspense, for example.

[civic jewel]

Unfortunately, I'm now going to be freely running straight into a shotgun barrel on the manor with its twists and turns

[mild trench]

100% skill issue

[civic jewel]

How many more hours I need than 130 to make it not a skill issue smh

My ears don't work so good no more

[steady trail]

At least you aren't kicked when you try going through a door.

[mild trench]

Is the kick an instant kill?

[steady trail]

Yeah.

[mild trench]

lmao

[steady trail]

You bump into the nutcracker, you just get kicked into oblivion.

[mild trench]

makes sense, the nutcrackers would be good at cracking nuts

[civic jewel]

That's kinda real though

I respect his foot power

[indigo prawn]

How many shells do you get with his shotgun?

Haven't really played since the update. Did one session but not for long.

[steady trail]

You always get two shells.
The shotgun's loaded shots depends on when you kill the nutcracker.

[indigo prawn]

makes sense

[civic jewel]

Can we beat him with his own shotgun melee style

If it's empty

[tame olive]

no

sadly

[civic jewel]

What's the flippin point

[tame olive]

mah immersion is ruined

[civic jewel]

That's what I'm sayin

[steady trail]

I mean.

Even if you tried to kick him, you would probably hurt yourself more rather than the nutcracker.

Haha

[civic jewel]

Imagine hitting him and inflicting self damage

[indigo prawn]

that would be kinda fun to add a giant walnut that's useless but if you put it in the path of the nutcracker and he runs into it or something he cracks it open and it can now be sold

On that note I thought about adding a foraging upgrade that makes it so when the outdoor enemies spawn they spawn some valuable alongside them. So like a Forest Giant will spawn idk a valuable flower or some shit at his position when he spawns then you have to sneak around and retrieve it

[tame olive]

could have it be like some bark from the forest giant cus they are legit just sentient trees

[indigo prawn]

yeah good idea

[tame olive]

could even have it be a giant two-handed SLAB of bark since they are so big

[civic jewel]

Da 300 pound wood

[tame olive]

i imagine it would have to be either big or would have to stand out from the enviroment a bit to make it relatively easy to spot

[civic jewel]

Could always incorporate it to the walkie gps, terminal gives coords and you gotta go out and hunt it down

[tame olive]

lmao

could add a command once you have bought the upgrade like forage or frg

[steady trail]

Well yeah, since we already have it for hives, it shouldn't be harder for any additional valuables outside.

[tame olive]

well it might be harder as Kieth suggested it could spawn when certain enemies do outside

would make eclipsed moons a little more valuable

cus you would have more loot outside as well

[mild trench]

It counts as loot so you can sell it after using it

[indigo prawn]

might have gone a little overboard with the new ship scanning commands but oh well

scan players returns a list of alive players and dead players and their coords (it shows empty because I'm testing on lan and using steamid to filter controlled players from pooled)
scan doors if the targeted player is inside the facility returns the 3 closest exists to them and if outside returns all entrances
scan enemies returns a count of all alive enemies

also I threw the pager back in as an upgrade to the signal transmitter. Now you need a signal transmitter to use it and it does the same as before except it also plays a little sound effect when received. It's now just called Fast Encryption.

[mild trench]

Ooh, scan doors sounds especially useful, since I find that people go 'Lore, help me get out of the facility' and I have to say 'I have no fucking clue where you are, I have been watching XYZ instead'

[indigo prawn]

Yeah I might add a compass type system to allow for easier communication of navigating out too but we'll see

[steady trail]

"Spike, tell me where the exit is."
"Not on this screen, good luck."

Like bro, what am I supposed to do, remember the whole map layout?

[mild trench]

"Lore help there are 4 coilheads, a jester, and a nutcracker, how do I leave"

"Bro you're standing in a dead end on a staircase"

I mean, I do actually have a great memory and can usually remember the map layout/the route I took to get in and out of the facility... when I am the one actually going into the facility.

[steady trail]

Yeah, when you're the one, it works fine.

[mild trench]

The problem with my group is that the only other guy any good at handling the terminal and stuff is an alcoholic so half the time we play he's wasted

[steady trail]

Now when you are on the terminal, constantly changing between, you won't remember where they are.

[indigo prawn]

because now that the terminal operator is able to see player coords and door coords they can navigate the players out using the pager or walkie talkie comms but if the receiving player can't see their coords it's going to be tricky like "ok turn around, move forward a bit" scan players -> check coords "ok yeah that's the right way keep going that way" whereas if there was a simple and persistant like "player is facing North" that shows up on the view monitor screen and the scan doors also returns what direction it is from the player you could just be like transmit <name> you are facing South, go East for exit or something

if the lost players have a walkie talkie and gps upgrade it will be easy just transmit them the coords but otherwise it will be a bit of a pain for sure. So adding something that doesn't make it too easy but takes some of that pain away sounds like a good idea

although I guess the terminal operator could just make note of which direction is which coordinate on the monitor. The monitor is always oriented the same way

and I believe in dungeons it's laid out pretty aligned with x and z. Forward from main entrance is positive or negative x and left right is z. The orientation of the screen changes a bit I think but I don't think that does

[steady trail]

Anyways, I was thinking of putting a handler for the assetbundle so that BuildCustomNodes does not decide to commit die and kill the whole terminal thing when an asset is missing or a typo in path or something, lol.
I don't know if it's gonna be useless or not but it could help in preventing things like this. #1178407269994594435 message

Plus a log saying what happened helps.

Rather than a whole stack trace.

[indigo prawn]

yeah verbose logging would be nice. Definitely want to make sure it's not able to silently or semi silently fail though.

Just incase it happens on something that is pretty minor or old and it's missed in the logs and doesn't get tested before going live or what have you and we end up pushing a live version with an assetbundle missing or misusing something

I gotta run some errands but if anyone wants to test these out and find some bugs lmk if it's fruitful

[indigo prawn]

@opal raptor you can use these instead of downgrading as well btw

[jaunty elk]

Hey, was wondering if you ever considered making an optional config for Night Vision goggles where battery could be infinite but each upgrade increases the efficiency of the "light" it provides

[steady trail]

Efficiency?
As in how far it can light up?

Isn't that in the config already?

[jaunty elk]

Yeah, i do mean how far it goes and how strong the light is

[steady trail]

That should be intensity thingy.

But like affected by level is what you meant?

[indigo prawn]

I haven't but it would be easy to set up. The values above the default range and intensity can kinda get weird though

[steady trail]

That could be a separate upgrade for NV. We end up having two upgrades for NV: one for battery and one for quality of the light.

[jaunty elk]

yeah, what i mean (ofc its just a suggestion) is it always being infinite battery, but base provides the light of like aparatus, and then each upgrade increases the range and brightness

[bold quiver]

hey guys, ive just installed the late game upgrades( lgu) mod and so far everythings going great im just wondering how does the portable teleporter work? i bought it and when i went into the dungeon i couldnt use it it kept making like an 'error' sound when i left click, can ito only be used in certain situations?

[indigo prawn]

You have to buy a ship teleporter as well

Somewhere to teleport back to

[bold quiver]

makes much more sense

thanks man

[jaunty elk]

even if the default range is the max upgrade one it would be nice! Since while it does make sense we dun really like managing for view offten, but i don't wanna make it infinite rn in config cuz it would feel cheesy with how it is rn, unless a super high price, but then we dont have any buildup to it

[indigo prawn]

Oh yeah starting it lower that's a good idea. I'll probably throw that in since it will take no time.

It won't be a seperate upgrade though just changing config values. So you'd set the drain time to be 0 and you'd set the range and intensity increment to be like 300 or whatever and you'll have the desired effect.

[granite moth]

scan enemies seems a bit op, perhaps it could just list the amount of enemies

[jaunty elk]

Yeah! That would be perfect, thank you! :D

[indigo prawn]

I'll just make the default value in the config 0 so the default behavior is maintained.

[indigo prawn]

Sure, I'll add a cfg option.

[indigo prawn]

@steady trail what do you want on the readme for credit

[steady trail]

Uhh.
My name and git is prolly good enough, haha.

[indigo prawn]

your configs will get replaced on this one. The appropriate values for some night vision config entries are much different now so I thought I should just force a fresh config

[indigo prawn]

and this is in as well

[thorny sundial]

any chance that the config could be setup to have all the upgrades be unlocked for everyone rather than individually by default, like how it used to be?

[indigo prawn]

It's set to have all upgrades be unlocked for everyone by default

[indigo prawn]

The option is shared upgrades in the misc section

[sharp orchid]

for the walkie gps it’s not like a map?

or how does it display your location

[indigo prawn]

Coordinates top right

When holding a walkie

Someone said they couldn't see them and they had 2 other walkie talkie mods installed so there's likely an incompatibility there

[sharp orchid]

ahh okay thank you

thought it was maybe a mini radar before

[thorny sundial]

it was already set to be shared but all the mods said to be individual as well

[indigo prawn]

Yeah that will only take effect if the one that sets them all to be shared is off

That way if you turn shared upgrades off its off

I'll change the wording to include override or force so it's more clear though

Are you able to edit this pinned message and switch out the link? I think I might move the FAQs to a post on the issues page.

I think it should let you

[civic jewel]

i shoudl be able to yea, just send me the link whenev

[thorny sundial]

ah ok, sounds good

[indigo prawn]

https://github.com/Malcolm-Q/LC-LateGameUpgrades/issues/60#issue-2051585712

[civic jewel]

done so

[indigo prawn]

If anyone has ideas for other behaviours to add to certain tiers of upgrades lmk. I don't have any ideas for running shoes but I feel like it should have one or some

[stoic quarry]

malware broadcaster could probably work as a tiered upgrade with stun, then permanently disarm, then explode

i think light footed should be removed entirely and made a tiered upgrade of running shoes

[indigo prawn]

Oh yeah those are great ideas I think I'll do that

Especially light footed that's the perfect thing to sprinkle onto running shoes

[stoic quarry]

maybe the final upgrade could let you regen stamina in water but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense

that could be good for bigger lungs

[indigo prawn]

Speaking of water I'm pretty sure I'm going to add that two handed diving kit item. Seems like it would be fitting and making it two handed seems like enough of a balance

Oh yeah then I forgot to do the health increase upgrade and medpack item

[stoic quarry]

that made me think of how you'd still be stuck in the giant pond in march which in turn gave me another idea: what if the final upgrade of running shoes let you walk/jump up steeper surfaces

[indigo prawn]

Climbing shoes haha. I'll check the code

[manic glacier]

so me and my friend are having problems

none of the upgrades are doing anything for us

we gave ourselves a bunch of credits

and bought a bunch but none of them seem to do anything

individual upgrades is off

and we're up to date on the current version

@indigo prawn

[indigo prawn]

Did you install it manually or with a mod manager

[manic glacier]

mod manager

its abummer because the mod seems really cool

but nothing seems to be working

[indigo prawn]

What happens when you buy discombobulator and type atk in the terminal

When you buy things does a red message in chat pop up and say "x is now active!"?

And you have the dependencies installed right? Lethallib and hookgen

[manic glacier]

dependencies are installed

when i buy the discombobulator

and do atk it says that i don't even have it so it won't work

says i need to buy it first

it's the upgrades really that i want to work

so i'm not sure what's going on

[indigo prawn]

Have you restarted your game? You can send your logoutput.log and I'll look at it

It's in your bepinex folder

[manic glacier]

where do i find that folder?

[indigo prawn]

I'm actually not sure for mod managers they probably move it. @civic jewel would know if he's on

[manic glacier]

i think i found it

[indigo prawn]

Yeah looks like it

[mild trench]

Hey, I have this set to 'false' and when we bought better scanner, it gave it to everyone.

[indigo prawn]

This is handy something weird is happening I'll look into it. If you haven't already restarting your game might fix it tbh

[indigo prawn]

Is it set to false in the better scanner section?

[manic glacier]

ok i'll try doing that

could it be a conflict with other mods?

[mild trench]

It's set to False in better scanner too ,yes.

[manic glacier]

i can list the ones that i have installed

[mild trench]

or well

it's set to 'true' for individual purchase

So, not really sure what the issue is here. Is there something wrong in the code, like how last time the beekeeper upgrade was what the protein powder level was pulling from?

[indigo prawn]

Yeah send your mod list please

[indigo prawn]

Yeah I'll HotFix this

[indigo prawn]

If you set that to false it should work how you want lol

Someone made a PR on the repo and at a glance I was like 'oh yeah that makes sense why was that like that' turns out it was right the way it was

[mild trench]

So it's all reversed, you mean?

[indigo prawn]

So I'll revert it. I've only been testing with misc.shared on.

[indigo prawn]

Yeah lol

[mild trench]

Ahh okay

[indigo prawn]

You guys are sure you're both on 2.7.0 right? You have a lot of networkconfig mismatches

Not even too sure how you guys are getting in game idk it's weird. If you send your mod list I can try test soon though

[manic glacier]

yeah we're both 2.7.0

i'll send the list right now..

BepinExPack, More Company, HookGenPatcher, LethalLib, Lategame_Upgrades, ReservedItemSlotCore, ReservedFlashlightSlot, ShipLoot, Helmet_Cameras, Skinwalkers

[indigo prawn]

Ok I'll try test sometime soon. And just to make sure, everyone has this exact list?

I'm curious if you still get networkconfig mismatches without my mod installed

Oh wait my mod is loading before lethal lib is that's probably it

I wonder why. If your mod manager allows you to change mod load order or anything move lethal lib to the top

[manic glacier]

even before bepinex?

i'll try that

[indigo prawn]

hm I don't think that's it actually

[manic glacier]

ok so i changed the load order and things are working

but...

i tried it alone so i don't know if it will work with my friend

he'll be back on in an hour or so and i'll report back

[indigo prawn]

oh

[manic glacier]

thanks for your help man

really wanna get this working haha

[indigo prawn]

If you want you can use / send them this dll

it forces lethal lib to load first and also targets .21 of bepinex

I left it targeting .22 of bepinex forever cause I swear that was the version on thunderstore but I guess not.

[manic glacier]

ok thanks.. would you mind telling me how to install that?

do i have to put that in a specific folder?

[indigo prawn]

uh wherever you found this there should be a folder called plugins, or there will be folders with the same name as your mod profile probably and inside there there will be a folder called plugins. Inside that plugins folder there will either be a dll with the same name or a folder named something to do with my mod and inside that folder will be the dll. Basically just find and replace the dll

I've never used a mod manager so I'm not too sure. You may also be able to right click somewhere and I wouldn't be suprised if the mod manager has a open in file explorer button

I could also just hotfix this and the other thing rn

[manic glacier]

ok perfect thank you. i found the folder

i'll let you know how it goes

really cool mod man

[indigo prawn]

Nice yeah hopefully this fixes it. I think I saw one other person describe this issue but they didn't provide as much info as you. Fingers crossed

[sleek flare]

I couldn't find an answer but is the loading bug with BetterSaves fixed?

[indigo prawn]

Um actually I'm not sure, Paul said he put up a new version but I don't know how it intermingles with LGU. I keep meaning to do a PR but all these little fires pop up or I get distracted by something. I guess I'll do that tomorrow. The safe bet is no it's not compatible yet though

And if you wanna test and report back be my guest

[sleek flare]

Alright, I'll try it right now

Seems like it isn't. Loaded up a new save, did forcecredits 50000, bought Beekeeper, landed and left, then left the game and rejoined and the upgrade was gone.

[indigo prawn]

Yeah sounds right

[sleek flare]

Did starting discounts get removed? Talking about discounts that are there when you make a new save.

[indigo prawn]

Yeah they did

That reminds me I gotta add sale saving

[sleek flare]

Ah I see

How often do they cycle?

[indigo prawn]

Quota

[sleek flare]

Thanks!

[mild trench]

So just to confirm, I need to set this to 'true' instead?

If I want the upgrades to be individual again

[indigo prawn]

Yeah I'm so sorry

lol

[mild trench]

Oh, you guys just pushed an update? Did that fix it?

[indigo prawn]

Oh this shouldn't be true yeah I meant set the individual upgrade options to true

[indigo prawn]

Yeah I did some things to the load order and target and threw that in

[timber coral]

Hey, not sure if its possible but an idea for running shoes, less movement reduction from quicksand/underwater

[indigo prawn]

I'll look into it

[slate surge]

I've found that Fast Encryption doesn't work for people who weren't there when it was purchased. In our specific situation, shared upgrades was on in the config, we bought Fast Encryption, turned off that setting in the config and restarted, and from then on the "transmit" command was broken for anyone other than the one who purchased the upgrade.

[indigo prawn]

By broken do you mean the vanilla translator behaviour fires when others use transmit or nothing happens when they use it?
By turned off that setting in the config do you mean you turned off shared upgrades or a different setting? If you turn off shared upgrades upgrades will not be shared.

[slate surge]

Broken as in the "transmit" terminal command does nothing at all

We had shared upgrades turned on because it was on by default, we purchased the upgrade, we turned off shared upgrades, then the people who hadn't themselves purchased Fast Encryption could no longer use the "transmit" command.

My understanding is that Fast Encryption should work as a ship upgrade as their isn't a specific 'individual purchase' setting for it in the config.

[manic glacier]

@indigo prawn hey man, just want to say thanks again for being so helpful. playing now with a full party and it's working perfectly 🙂

[indigo prawn]

No, thank you. A couple others have reported stuff like this but didn't spend the time talking with me and sending info. There's a issue on my GitHub that's been open for way too long I should be able to close.

[indigo prawn]

Right, you're right my bad. Hard to remember how everything is set up now lol. I'll try recreate this sorry for the inconvenience.

[finite tundra]

hi the scan enemies ceases to work after using it a set number of times any fixes to it?

[indigo prawn]

Can you send your logoutput.log?
What exactly happens when you try use it? The enter key doesn't do anything / scan enemies stays on screen? It doesn't pick up any enemies? It doesn't recognize the command?

[finite tundra]

yes so basically pressing enter key gives no output/doesn't do anything

[indigo prawn]

Gotcha your logoutput.log file is in your bepinex folder if you can send it I should be able to track it down

[indigo prawn]

If you also have the logoutput.log file from a session where this happened I'd appreciate if you sent it

[still trellis]

Question about Better Scanner.

Wit hthis new upgrade, is it possible for me to be able to give the second tier upgrade for ship commands to everyone but keep the actual scanner part of it individual?

[twilit ocean]

has anyone tried the the NV after 2.7.0 update? seems like the upgrade is affecting my normal vision and not the NV goggles.

That screenshot was taken on a pitch black facility

[indigo prawn]

seems fine for me. Send your logoutput.log if you can

[indigo prawn]

not atm I can look at adding that though

[indigo prawn]

Did you load a save where you had night visionunlocked?

[twilit ocean]

my friend and I were experimenting with the values. I set it back to default and it's back to normal now. Not sure what cause it though

[indigo prawn]

never leave a man behind

[hoary remnant]

Lol what mod lets you take stuff from monster bodies?

[indigo prawn]

new hunter upgrade

level 1 lets you collect samples from snare fleas and hoarding bugs, level 2 spiders and baboon hawks, level 3 bracken thumper eyeless dog

[hoary remnant]

That sounds awesome! 😄

[jaunty elk]

God damm, this is something i always wanted in the game, for there to be small reward for killing the monsters

[potent quartz]

Been having issues with the Peeper; after picking it up while it was watching a coilhead, the coilhead AI sometimes breaks, such as moving despite being looked at, or sometimes "sliding" after moving into vision from a doorway. Not sure what mod is specifically incompatible with this too, but whatever mod it is, it seems to cause the coilheads to continuously inch while the peeper looks at them and players are looking away. Not as big an issue as that first one, though.
https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/1KmQ4vsf5tUfX-/d1337ERGsJZv?invite=cr-MSxNdVAsOTY5OTE2OSw

[indigo prawn]

woah

[indigo prawn]

are you host or remote client in this vid

[potent quartz]

Host, I was solo

[indigo prawn]

Have you played/relaunched the game since recording this?

[potent quartz]

I recorded this just now

[indigo prawn]

can you send this file please?

[indigo prawn]

The logs look clean to me.
I see game master has this in update. were you always playing with gamemaster or did you just add it to help record this bug?

[potent quartz]

Ah might be game master, if that's the case

always played with it on

then been testing with just gamemaster + this mod

Was trying to single out what mods maybe affecting it, and gamemaster was the only way I can spawn in coilheads consistently lol

[indigo prawn]

ok, I'll try take another look at the peeper and how I'm getting it to stop coilheads so it opens up more compatibility. I had quite a time wrestling with the coilheads getting them to stop so I should probably refactor that anyway. Honestly the currentchasespeed change shouldn't really be resulting in the behaviour that's happening but there's a few things that shouldn't have been happening that were so I wouldn't be suprised if it is vulnerable to that. It's weird I'm using the vanilla code to stop it and more but certain things won't behave like they should. Specifically getting the running animation to stop was way more fussy than it should of been. I guess it's just a sign to not be lazy and set up a nice transpiler though.

[fathom veldt]

can you make an option to enable/disable individual purchase for all item at once, it will be very helpful

I hope that make sense, I'm not good at English

[steady trail]

It's in the Misc section.

[fathom veldt]

damn didn't see it, ty

[wispy obsidian]

How can I use interns?

I'm typing interns and it returns me WeOneGuy is still alive and can't be replaced

[steady trail]

You use it on someone selected in the radar and type intern.

If they're dead, they're alive.

If they're alive, you didn't spend anything.

[mental burrow]

Hey uh, how do you take off/drop nightvision goggles once you've equipped them?

[stoic quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[mild trench]

The glue for them is way too strong

[frozen cave]

https://tenor.com/view/you-need-to-be-killed-vinny-assisted-living-you-need-to-die-just-die-gif-23643404

[warped hemlock]

I have the upgrade but isnt working

[steady trail]

What isn't working exactly?

What are you expecting it to do?

Because there was an overhaul on it.

[warped hemlock]

Im on the latest version, after failing to meet quota and getting back the money again to get the upgrades, it will not allow me to use any of these

the scan enemies, scan scrap, scan player, scan doors, scan hives. None of that would work even though I had the skill maxed

ALSO I have scan scrap though walls set to false but still shows me scrap through walls

Locksmith wouldnt work. Basically being reset on quota ang getting upgrades back nullifed them

[steady trail]

So nothing works past fired scene.

At least it's a starting point.

[warped hemlock]

Correct

[wispy obsidian]

thank you, dude

[steady trail]

Ok so basically whenever you try to buy the upgrade again after fired scene, the RPCs just commit die.
So we prolly have to reset the gameObjects, not sure.

[indigo prawn]

Yeah I haven't tested post firing in forever probably resetting something and not setting it back.

The tags system in servers in the new update is a good idea

[frank ledge]

damn it guys. stop unbalancing my B A L A N C E D game.

[indigo prawn]

Should make public modded servers easier.

New gamemode type thing is cool to see. I really wanna make a tarkov style gamemode

[prisma widget]

Just want to know what it'll do.
Convert all upgrades to be shared. = false

[indigo prawn]

Purchased upgrades will only apply to the client that purchased them

Then each upgrade has the option to make it shared so you can sprinkle them in

[prisma widget]

whait. but each upgrade has Individual Purchase section. which one override other?

[lethal vale]

There is already a mod that adds this and yes you have to flush him to stop him. But it doesn't kill him just resets him.

[indigo prawn]

If convert all upgrades to be shared is true it will naturally override the individual purchase options

If false the values of individual purchase are used

[prisma widget]

got it, thx

[indigo prawn]

np yeah it's the way the mod is intended to be played I'd give it a try

[steady trail]

beekeeper
final upgrade increases beehive price

So what, as soon as we have at least one person with max beekeeper, we increase the hive's price?

[indigo prawn]

Yeah I guess so

Could just set up a no owner server RPC that gets triggered when someone hits max level that flips a bool that is checked by a redlocustbee start postfix that if true increases that bees hive value by x

[frozen eagle]

Where can I see the config in Thunderstore? I only see these two

[steady trail]

Load game modded.

Then come back.

[frozen eagle]

ohh, thanks 💜

[fluid river]

Also, its named as ShipUpgrades or something like that

[flat bison]

search up ship

[flat bison]

yep

[indigo prawn]

almost at 100 commits

oh and we're almost at 1 mil downloads that's neat

[indigo prawn]

btw in case you're doing this, item price is spread out a bunch.

iirc the it should have a .ScrapValue

the .itemproperties will have a .creditsworth and maybe one other

Then .GetComponentInChildren<ScanNodeProperties>().subtext needs to be updated with string.Format("Value: ${0}", x)

[steady trail]

Yeah

Gotta love shotgun things

Where you change one place, you change everywhere else.

[indigo prawn]

You must be having a blast refactoring then lol

[steady trail]

It decreases the chances for fuckups, haha

[indigo prawn]

this whole repo is like the epitome of 'nothing is more permanent than a temporary solution' I really like that you're cleaning it up I keep neglecting it so bad

[steady trail]

Gotta love having running shoes giving protein powder buff.

Haha

Yeah, refactor isn't easy because you have to change the code flow. Once you get used to it, it's hard to let it go.

[dark rampart]

So me and my friends decided to update Lategame upgrades from 2.5.1 to 2.7.0. Turns out we can't die or leave the planet if version of the mod is above 2.6.0. We play Lethal Company v40.

[indigo prawn]

yeah don't do that

is 2.5.1 compatible with v40?

[dark rampart]

Yep

It works completely fine

[indigo prawn]

ok I'll bump that up, neat

wonder why lol

[steady trail]

Hahah

"this code works and I have no idea why"

Black magic was involved in the making of the product, hahaha

[indigo prawn]

accidental backwards compatibility is always appreciated

[dark rampart]

And, can we get an option in the config to change the max level of the upgrades. After we got lvl4 lungs, shoes etc it got boring, sorta?

[steady trail]

You can

[indigo prawn]

yeah I thought that was in 2.5

[steady trail]

By putting more prices.

[dark rampart]

Your mod really keeps us playing it)

[dark rampart]

Wha

Oh

[steady trail]

The amount of levels is determined by the amount of prices you put in the config.

[indigo prawn]

so if you make that 600,700,800,900 there will be one extra level

[steady trail]

And it keeps adding the increment also set in the config.

[dark rampart]

'0'

[indigo prawn]

so you can make the value of the increment value lower and increase the amoutn of times you upgrade it or whatever

[dark rampart]

I'm blind srry

[indigo prawn]

nah all good, this is an absurdly big config

[dark rampart]

Thanks for the mod btw

By

[steady trail]

I love when I was debugging the protein's max level.
"What do you mean you can go up to 11 levels? I only have one price set"
"Oh, it was doing the string's +, not int's"

[prisma widget]

It would be great if players could see in the terminal whether the upgrade is being purchased for everyone at once or separately. Like

Diskombobulator (for all) - 450
Bigger Lungs (Individual) - 600

[indigo prawn]

may just add a line to the info node instead

I feel like the store already looks a little cluttered with
name - lvl x - price - sale

[mild trench]

I think using parentheses will help separate the info bits

Bigger Lungs (LVL 1) (INDIVIDUAL) [SALE] something like that

[prisma widget]

or just separate them to two lists depends of settings

[Individuals]
Back Muscles
Beekeeper
Better Scanner
Bigger Lungs
Light Footed
Locksmith
Night Vision
Peeper
Portable Teleporter
Protein Powder
Running Shoes
Strong Legs

[Shared]
Discombobulator
Fast Encryption
Interns
Malware Broadcaster
Lightning Rod

[steady trail]

We can prolly do that

If we really could, maybe "lgu shared" and "lgu individual"

It's just a matter of how to show the information

[indigo prawn]

I think I like this one the most since it doesn't take any more horizontal space

seems the simplest and most intuitive

[prisma widget]

i'll prefer using one command to see all. but additional commands for different lists is nice as well

[mild trench]

Yeah the ones Kalem has listed under Shared should be automatically Shared

[prisma widget]

they can be Individual depending on the settings. so, ill prefer to have options to choose

[prisma widget]

just wonder is the portable teleporter hasn't an icon or if its only my issue

[indigo prawn]

yeah I don't have icons for those, gotta make a png thanks for reminding me

[indigo prawn]

sad amazon made one of these samples for 7 creatues and they're different colors and have different giblets. I put a little animation on it and some particle effects and I love how it looks

like a little lava lamp kinda

[civic jewel]

what happens if i eat it

[indigo prawn]

I'd love to add little effects if you consume it

or just projectile vomit

[civic jewel]

itd be awesome

vomitting consumes stamina lmao

[prisma widget]

which size icons should be?

[indigo prawn]

I don't think it matters just as long as they're square

Actually for sake of not making the asset bundle too big maybe no bigger than 256x256

[prisma widget]

256x256, 128x128, 64x64

[indigo prawn]

Sweet, thank you

[wispy obsidian]

What is that jar?

[indigo prawn]

Hoarding bug sample

[wispy obsidian]

Is it only for hoarding bugs?

And will it be in the new mod update?

It looks interesting

I saw a mod for selling mobs

But it hasn't come out yet.

[indigo prawn]

Yeah, new hunter upgrade.
LVL 1 lets you collect samples from hoarding bug and snare flea
LVL 2 baboonhawk and spider
LVL 3 Bracken thumper eyeless dog

[wispy obsidian]

How much will the dogs cost?

[wispy obsidian]

Because I saw in that thread message like “Eyeless dogs are very common, so they will be quite chip”

And I personally don't understand how to kill them 😅

[indigo prawn]

I have their samples at 100-150 credits by default. Configurable of course. The only time I've killed a dog was with lightning though. Haven't played since shotgun was added.

[wispy obsidian]

I know the only one way: using rocket launcher

But it's quite expensive.

So I don't think its a good way

[prisma widget]

Someone has to sacrifice for a bite. And others hit it with shovels. Usually, you don't die from one bite, and the dog will be stunned by a hit.

But if you have a zap gun or shok grenade you even have not sacrifice.

[wispy obsidian]

Oh, it can be stunned with zap gun?

I've never tried to do it

Sounds like instant death

[flat bison]

If they're outside you can probably use the discombobulator ship upgrade as well

since it stuns enemies for a short while