#No more creativity or fun after the update. (#revertupdate)

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heady grail
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The worst thing about the latest update was the imbalance between attack and defense. We know it has gotten worse, but there’s something they didn’t notice the defensive AI. The more they improved it, the more the game lost its identity. Before the update, I used to find creative and fun ways to score or assist goals, and every match was an opportunity to invent new methods to score that was the joy of the game.

All we asked for was fixing kick-offs and corners, nothing more. Now, the situation is terrible. The difference is clear before the update, I could lose a match but still feel happy and enjoy it. Now, even when I win, I feel unsatisfied and say to myself, “That’s not me it’s the AI defending for me.” Where’s the fun in that?

timid nova
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Before patch i had 13-2, 14-1, 13-2, this WL i got 10-5 😄, but i have to say gameplay after the patch is way more enjoyable for me. Finally its looks more like football guys. It's more about build up play, cut passing lines, keeping ball under pressure, team mates finally something doing not just staying and looking. For those who saying defensive AI is so OP i have to say no one of my 15 WL games ended up 0-0, but results was realistic, not 11-9 or something like that. No more fidget spinners and short pass spammers in the game is bid W.

coral gull
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It's more randomize, less skill

primal charm
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It is very strange that shielding the ball is so OP i literally can pass any defense by just shielding the ball, cutbacks from wings to cam then to attackers is extremely op. Corners far post header pass to middle always goal. Defensive wise control your CDMs and never ever ever ever touch your defense line only last minute and abuse the x button. The game is brain dead seriously zero enjoyment

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And there will be always for you or against you a goal in the last minute someway somehow

coral gull
primal charm
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The creators of this game i don't know of it is on purpose or not they remove any skill gap of real football

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The skill gap is how you exploit the broken mechanics, maybe it targets the new gens and that's how their brain works i really don't know but the game is incompetent

timid nova
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Guys, I won't argue, there's already a lot of discussion about this, but one thing still amazes me, and that's that the skilled, elite division players complain that defense is too OP, so where is their skill? I didn't see any before the update and I'm a casual player, with one pass from RB to RM you could pass the entire field, then some spins in the penalty area and a goal, was this considered a skill before the update?

dreamy kite
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Great work EA listening to the community and not just the sweats. Good update. A step in the right direction. But pls fix fidget spinners next.
Fidget sppining is still way too op and unrealistic. Defending against that is still impossible as it has been nerfed to the ground.

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Now nxt step is finding a way to nerf the fidget spinners so that defenders have a fair n equal opportunity.

Dribbling is still op and the defense is unable to keep up.
Current state only streamers n sweats keep abusing the left stick mechanic and others is interested to play.

timid nova
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I dont count how many times i faced Pina in WL before update because her fidget spinning mechanics and dead defence, so much fun yeah 😏😄

dreamy kite
vernal quartz
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It's inconsistent

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When it works, it's fun

royal root
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If the AI gets nerfed we'll actually be able to tell where the attacking needs to be improved. Until then it's pointless playing against players that just sit deep and counter

nocturne stirrup
timid nova
royal root
timid nova
royal root
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In early access this playstyle wasn't really possible. You actually had to defend.

If they nerf the AI this patch would have more balance.

timid nova
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Yes it was possible, and what exatly means more balanced ? Before patch games was 10-6, 9-8, 7-6 etc. Now MY results are mostly 4-3, 3-5, 2-4 etc. Which balance is better for you ? If the first one than this discusion is over for me 😄 and secondly, you all talking about skill in defending, but the defending is OP for both sides, so you have no skill in attacking when you cant win.

dreamy kite
royal root
frank summit
timid nova
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Bro its just a waste of time to writting with you, i can tell you 10 reasons why the game is better like you need build up play, players cant spin around anymore, results are more realistical etc. And all you can write is AI is overpowered, thank you i have enough 😄

timid nova
royal root
frank summit
timid nova
chilly jetty
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The AI defence in 'offline' is an absolute joke. 72 pace VVD catching players with 89 pace is a joke. And the company states they don't have sliders or DDA that slow and reduce your players attributes is a lie. EA you are ruining this game with NO fun at all.

paper furnace
# timid nova Guys, I won't argue, there's already a lot of discussion about this, but one thi...

The difference between a Pro, Hardcore and Casual players that Pros/Hardcors are the ones who are able to find expliots and tell what's in the game unlike the casual who just play without noticing.

Most of the exploits originally came from pro players, and in this game esp with the current low skill gap.
The skill between the pro and the avg player is that the pros are more paitent with the BS of the game and more likely to either counter or do the expliots themselves...

  • This game is their job so they are forced to play and adapt to every circumstances of the game even if it was dogs***.
timid nova
paper furnace
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Pros adapt to gameplay (even bad gameplay) because it's thier job...

timid nova
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Yes, but i think the gameplay is good or bad if in the game are things like trivela shoot last year when 99% of trivelas ends in the net. Thats bad, but gameplay isn't bad when the opponent have better defense or when GK are little OP, because i consider that players of this game should rather have better attacking skill to score goal and spend time with build up play and right stick skills and finishing skill, than nerf defensive AI and have defending skill and chase opponent 1v1 with the ball yet other teammates just looking and do nothing because lack of defensive AI.

royal root
# timid nova Yes, but i think the gameplay is good or bad if in the game are things like triv...

It should be balanced though.

In the early access gameplay the AI didn't hold your hand like it does now. You had to keep your defensive line in shape while also closing down and applying pressure to the ball carrier.

Right now all you have to do is tell your entire back line to play defensive, play 60 or lower depth and then chase the ball carrier with only cdms or a pacy attacker. That's not being good at defending, it's exploiting the AI.

timid nova
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I absolutely don't feel like the AI ​​would hold someone's hand, I've never once had the AI ​​do a stand tackle or even a slide tackle like the friend wrote above, just because the AI ​​better holding positions or catches balls better doesn't mean it would hold someone's hand, of course the player in question has to have the right plays and stats. And guys, what are you already doing, do you know how stupid it sounds that the opponent defends deeply so i can't score a goal and then I don't enjoy it 😄 and what's the point of letting you score as many goals as you want? Yet still even after the patch, i don't have a single game when final score was 0-0 🙄.

prime harness
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True

royal root
# timid nova I absolutely don't feel like the AI ​​would hold someone's hand, I've never once...

But you should be the one to hold position and move players to intercept passes. The AI should just stay in formation and do nothing else. No tackles, no blocks, no interceptions, no tracking without double tapping r1 or using second man press.

Even having second man press in its current state feels overpowered, it lasts too long and the players react too well.

The AI should not be better at reading the game than the user and should not cover for the users mistakes like it currently does.

shadow star
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+1

dreamy kite
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Great work EA listening to the community and not just the sweats. Good update. A step in the right direction. But pls fix fidget spinners next.
Fidget sppining is still way too op and unrealistic. Defending against that is still impossible as it has been nerfed to the ground. Now nxt step is finding a way to nerf the fidget spinners so that defenders have a fair n equal opportunity.

Dribbling is still op and the defense is unable to keep up.
Current state only streamers n sweats keep abusing the left stick mechanic and others is interested to play.

heady grail
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