Hurry up and revert

[ivory ocean]

Game is so boring at the moment. Game was fine before the patch. The jockey speed just needed a buff with corners and kick offs patched again. Why there is now super ai defending again is a mystery to me. It’s now FC 25 but you cannot even trivela when someone sits in playing deep whilst holding cdms.

Just keep the jockey speed. get rid of this ai defending crap. And make dribbling the same. R1 dribbling being nerfed has somehow made all players dribble slower now? I’m not even holding R1 and the players turn like trucks. First touches are bad. There is no intricacies in the box unless it’s skill and shot cancels. This is boring.

There’s an authentic mode for all these casuals to go and enjoy ‘realistic’ football. You sold us a dream with gameplay in the trailers and then let us have it for a month before getting rid of it

[sly panther]

Great work EA listening to the community and not just the sweats. Good update. A step in the right direction. But pls fix fidget spinners next.
Fidget sppining is still way too op and unrealistic. Defending against that is still impossible as it has been nerfed to the ground.

Now nxt step is finding a way to nerf the fidget spinners so that defenders have a fair n equal opportunity.

Dribbling is still op and the defense is unable to keep up.
Current state only streamers n sweats keep abusing the left stick mechanic and others is interested to play.

[gloomy minnow]

@ivory ocean exactly you have hit the nail on the head. It's funny how the causals just have a one sided view. It's almost like the casuals don't want a skill gap.

[ivory ocean]

idk not talking about fidget spinners though? i’m talking about being able to play intricate passes etc without ai defenders breathing down your neck on every first touch. Im a rank 1 player every year and will get it again with our without this patch. Just a worser game and much more boring as i said

[ivory ocean]

of course they don’t. Ultimate team is a COMPETITIVE game mode. it’s gameplay in rivals and fut champs SHOULD. be tailored to those who are competitive or ‘sweats’. These are the people that don’t have anywhere else to play. The casual players can play all sorts of modes but should just know UT is going to be difficult and you will lose to players who are better than you. Either get better or play other modes

[mental lance]

The patch is fine. They just need to nerf the defensive AI

[ivory ocean]

agree with the patch having some positives but nerfing dribbling whilst buffing defending has over balanced the game from being over attacking to now over defending. Surely people don’t play FC to defend???

[light finch]

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[mental lance]

They didn't nerf all of dribbling. Just one mechanic that was overpowered.

If you can't manage to dribble without r1 that's not ea's problem. They just need to nerf the AI back to something similar to early access

[ivory ocean]

sigh - they said they’ve nerfed R1. as i wrote in my first comment. Normal dribbling has been impacted anyway. I don’t use R1 to dribble but left stick dribbling an first touches have been changed whether they wanted to say it or not

They can keep defending the same before patch or make dribbling how it was before. Either would balance it out

Jockying speed being so high compared to normal left stick dribbling means it’s very difficult to dribble past a player only back n forth. R1 dribbling was overpowered but it’s meant to be a speed between normal dribbling and sprinting which it now isn’t because you’re not fast or in control. R1 should be something similar to last years where it was neither over/underpowered

[mental lance]

That's the inconsistent gameplay though. Not a change to dribbling.

If the AI gets nerfed there wouldn't be a reason to make dribbling better.

We just have to wait until then.

[ivory ocean]

i’ll agree with that. My main issue is the AI tracking every single pass. fast passing around the box to create and angle and you just get smashed into by an AI defender who the player had no thought about controlling. Skill gap is minimised. Also, I don’t think games being too high scoring was down to such poor ai pre patch. Most elite games i played just before the patch didn’t have more than 5-6 goals a game which i don’t think is bad

[mental lance]

So I guess we can agree.

Don't revert the patch. Nerf AI defending and go from there.

[ivory ocean]

Yes i agree. would like to see r1 dribbling to be ‘useable’ not overpowered though. Last years was very balanced. had a nice feel when trying to cut in and give a yard for a finesse or a cross

[zenith pasture]

@mental lance just wondering bro what div are you?

[mental lance]

Early access was a nice middle ground but needed manual defending fixes. That was mistaken and they added more AI assistance into the game.

This update actually fixed manual defending but the AI is left over.

Now that controlled sprint can't be "exploited" and jockey is faster, everything in attack feels slow.

I still find it pretty easy enough to beat manual defenders with controlled sprint but if it still needs a buff after that's fine.

[mental lance]

Does that really matter? I don't play enough rivals to be in a good rank but I've been playing these games longer than your discord has been active.

I don't want to be a pro but I want the game to be balanced.

[ivory ocean]

Yeah i found it okay in lower divisions on my RTG but controlled sprint in Elite is an instant tackle lol

[zenith pasture]

@mental lance exactly you're div 6 max don't know what you're talking about

[ivory ocean]

Think i’m just gutted because i found the game very fun last year and it just feels stagnant like last year. even when get rank 1 last year it felt more of a chore

[mental lance]

So because my rank might be around there you think my opinion is irrelevant?

And what do you think? R1 should be brought back and AI left alone? Why not just give everyone 99 stats already too.

[quick viper]

only div 1 or higher have opinions on how the game is ? get off your high horse

the patch is fine, the game is more balanced

i’ve seen a bunch of 15-0 champ players saying they like the patch

[zenith pasture]

average div 9 timmy that needs AI to hold his hand ^

[quick viper]

that’s funny , says the guy who prob needs weak defending so his fidget spinning can carry him

we all know your just upset and lack any brain power to figure out different ways to attack now

[zenith pasture]

no bud i think r1 should be brought back and AI gone, manual jockey is good enough and would actually take skill defending

[mental lance]

Didn't I just say the AI should be nerfed before making another adjustment to dribbling?

I don't want any AI. I play full manual and high lines.

[mental lance]

And I think that a crutch mechanic that I had no issues defending before shouldn't be in the game because it's fast and more fun.

[quick viper]

I wouldn’t mind an AI nerf to defending too. IMO the best defending boosts should be from manual only

[zenith pasture]

funny thing is i didn't have a problem defending the fidget spinners lmfaooo you div 6 donnys are the only ones having trouble

[quick viper]

weird, i’ve seen a ton of high scoring games from pro players

[mental lance]

Neither did I. Just about a good balance and not having easy mode buttons.

Everyone was abusing r1. Now they can't

[zenith pasture]

because i took time to learn how to defend

[quick viper]

just watched one the other day from pre patch with a 10-7 final

i guess they’re all timmies too then ?

[zenith pasture]

• i would rather score + concede more than have boring AI defending back and forth

[quick viper]

weird

ok i’d rather the scoring be down and have a more football style of game

[zenith pasture]

yeah key word game

[mental lance]

So remove AI defending and make it manual. But until then the dribbling should stay as it is

[quick viper]

thankfully EA feels the same way

i’m playing the game i enjoy and you’re not

[zenith pasture]

they don't they're changing it 🤣

[mental lance]

Competitive online game btw

[zenith pasture]

did you not see their post 🤣

[quick viper]

the only thing they’re changing is the R1 a bit

manual jockey speed is here to stay

[zenith pasture]

no one is complaining about manual jockey

that's a good thing and should stay

[quick viper]

k good i agree

[zenith pasture]

but AI defending is just boring asf

[quick viper]

it happened pre patch as well tho

[mental lance]

You're all complaining because your beat the ai button is gone. No AI, no need for old controlled sprint.

[zenith pasture]

yeah but pre patch those who just ran around with their CDMS all game atleast you could get away from them or dribble around them

now at a high division where everyone knows how to abuse AI you're passing outside the box for 20 mins

while they're controlling 1 player chasing you around

[quick viper]

i agree defensive ai should be turned down

[zenith pasture]

no it's just an imbalance

before attacking was overpowered because the jockey was not good enough

now the Jockey (which should be good) and AI defending is overpowered compared to attacking

[quick viper]

I do agree that if you choose to AI defend it should be a lot easier to get past

[zenith pasture]

same

[mental lance]

Because of how effective the controlled sprint was at just going through that level of defensive they buffed it.

I never had a problem with it but I stopped playing after 1.0.2s AI buff and picked it up again on Thursday.

[zenith pasture]

not to mention the horrible servers with so much input lag after the patch make it impossible to dribble past a player

[mental lance]

So then we can't really know if controlled sprint needs an update yet because the AI is too overpowered after this patch.

Think logically. I would also prefer everything pre patch because it was fun. But this dribbling with early access AI could he a great balance.

If the controlled sprint needs a buff after that then that's ok

[zenith pasture]

Pc players been disconnecting for 5 days straight no comment from this sh!te company

yeah i agree