oblique haven
1.1.0 feels like a great game. But to put it simply, the first couple updates that made defending easier against the early dribbling abuse needs to be reverted.
During the early access it took skill to keep your players in position and intercept plays. Now it feels like certain formations and tactics do all the work for you.
It's time for the AI assisted defending to go.
torpid drift
Great work EA listening to the community and not just the sweats.
This is a step in the right direction. Good update. But EA please fix fidget spinners next.
However the fidget sppining is still way too op and unrealistic. Defending against that is still impossible as defending has been nerfed to the ground.
The next step is finding a way to nerf the fidget spinners so that defenders have a fair and equal opportunity.
The dribbling is still op responsive and the jockey is unable to keep up.
In this current state only streamers and sweats keep abusing the left stick mechanic and nobody else is interested to play.
oblique haven
This upcoming weekend league is going to highlight just how overpowered the current defensive AI is.
Players are able to have 2 lines of at least 4 players sitting infront of boxl while they can easily cut passing lane with the extra 2 players.
This was just not a thing during early access and those that attempted it did it have their hands held by the AI.
raw plank
dont listen to them ea, by the last patch the game is in its best, gameplay is balanced and enjoyable
oblique haven
dont listen to them ea, by the last patch the game is in its best, gameplay is b...
Don't listen to who? The gameplay is currently AI assisted on defense and counter heavy.
The last patch had a mechanic that was overpowered and being used in an unintended way
oblique haven
+1
hollow marlin
FACTS
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frozen flax
We can only wish that we can go back to the early access gameplay. It was so much fun and it was so great! It baffles me that EA can’t be competent with the patches. Every patch has made the gameplay worse and worse. Don’t understand why EA can’t fix one thing or make minor adjustments without it absolutely screwing up the entire gameplay.
oblique haven
+1
tropic wedge
We can only wish that we can go back to the early access gameplay. It was so muc...
+1
#EarlyAccessGameplay
tribal forum
I can't understand why ea is silent about the defensive AI. They posted comment and poll about r1 drybling but nothing about defesive AI. Boosting jockey was enough, now you are able to manually defend. But defensive AI needs to go and be nerfed ASAP. I really can't understand why we still rewarding useless players in the game for passive defending. In offense I basicaly need to triger every forward run, but clowns in defense don't need to do anything, they can just wait for AI doing jobs for them. NERF DEFENSIVE AI ASAP
oblique haven
I can't understand why ea is silent about the defensive AI. They posted comment ...
Every other post is in uproar because the they lost their crutch and can't glide across the pitch anymore.
No one knows what they're talking about. They just think because they were in high divisions in broken gameplay that it should remain that way.
Please nerf AI
vale trout
the whole patch is horror imo
#1431594667828580484 to discuss and for ea to see what the community really feels and see both sides of the argument
we need constructive discussion to get results
tribal forum
It's not about reverting update is about killing defensive AI and finally start rewarding players who defend manually. Jockey update is very good move becuase that was not normall that with best defenders in the world we were not able to defend women players who in real life would be beat by random u15 team
vale trout
yes i agree but wouldnt you say that all was better pre patch
the game shouldnt be about defending for 90mins to score a crap counter goal in a 1-0 game. my argument is to go back to pre patch and work from there on all the points you made
i completely agree w what you're saying
tribal forum
Cool, we are on the same page, I don't have problem with good drybling in the game, but with proper jockey we should be able to at least try to defend manually with fair fight. This crap counter goal is because AI defensive which is destroying fan in this game.
vale trout
yes i agree
i think jockey need a slight adjustment
i think maybe 10% or so
what do you think
obviously there are still big issues post patch but the game was atleast playable and mostly fun
tribal forum
I mean I hate defensive AI but also I really hate previous state of the game where a lot for people were abusing women players. It will be always trying to find a good balance between drybling and defending, but everything should be around doing it manually
vale trout
agreed to an extent
i just think the game should NEVER be based around defending and has been for the last few years and is now again post patch
i would rather attacking be better than defending than the other way round
however obviously a balane is found in the ideal world
yes women abusers were annoying fs but its better thasn 10 at the back bull wouldnt you say?
tribal forum
I agree, now we basically have ea fc 25 in defense and it's not fun
vale trout
yes i completely agree
tribal forum
I think that if people would be forced to finally defend manualy and not rely on AI, then there will be enough space to do something fun in offense, either with tiki taka or left stick dribling
vale trout
yes i couldn't agree more
quick bolt
I think that if people would be forced to finally defend manualy and not rely on...
Yes but then these people will just cry about defending being "impossible" again
vale trout
true thus jockey could recieve a slight adjustment
maybe a movement speed buff or balance change
like they were trying to do but obviosuly failed imo
i think ppl who found defending "impossible" were too lazy to learn it bc they are so used to AI defending for them the last few years
#1431594667828580484 is acutal constructive discussion
tropic wedge
Yes but then these people will just cry about defending being "impossible" again
They can simply quit
vale trout
excactly
oblique haven
Yes but then these people will just cry about defending being "impossible" again
But why would that be a problem for you? Just agree with us. It's too overpowered and needs to be nerfed
Players should have to learn to defend. Not copy a tactic and have the AI do it all.
quick bolt
Bro i agree
I always manualy defend because i hate letting the ai do it
It's boring af
vale trout
yes absolutely
oblique haven
Then hopefully everyone stops overreacting in the other posts
vale trout
no overeaction the game is unplayabel
oblique haven
no overeaction the game is unplayabel
It's still playable. Just requires more actual football build up.
The AI is stopping that from happening because players don't have to control their defenders.
quick bolt
Nope
vale trout
no
quick bolt
If this was the gameplay 2 weeks ago i wouldnt of wasted my 80 euro's on it
oblique haven
do you acc want to play the game
I've been actually playing the game for years. I don't want gimmicks and AI doing it for everyone else.
oblique haven
but is it fun
If you can't dribble in this update that's says something about the way you played before.
oblique haven
the dribbling is horror
It's not though. Just not done as easily as before
quick bolt
If you can't dribble in this update that's says something about the way you play...
It's possible to dribble in the midfield, but once you reach the backline it's almost impossible to dribble past them, especially if they let the ai defend
quick bolt
Yes now you have to spam skill moves en skill move cancels
And im not going do put my time and effort in learning f'ing skill move cancels
oblique haven
I don't use cancels but you should have to learn skills if you want to do certain things. Otherwise pass the ball.
That's where the skill gap needs to be. Not in one button and fidget spinning.
oblique haven
It's possible to dribble in the midfield, but once you reach the backline it's a...
But that's literally because of the AI.
If the game had similar defending to the early access gameplay then this change to the dribbling would be fine.
vagrant shuttle
Cancels are not realistic at all
Who tf cancels a skill move IRL
R1 dribbling is more realistic
oblique haven
R1 dribbling is more realistic
The way it is now is. Cancels could be removed and my life and playstyle would remain the same.
I only started using cancels a couple days ago because of people sitting back in tight walls.
oblique haven
+1
vale trout
indeed #1431594667828580484 so that ea can make changes from there
oblique haven
+1
oblique haven
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oblique haven
Skill issue.
Nerf AI defending back to early access.
oblique haven
+1
vagrant shuttle
Bad work EA listening to the community and not just the sweats. Bad update. A step in the wrong direction. But pls fix AI defending next.
AI defending is still way too op and unrealistic. Attacking against that is still impossible as it has been nerfed to the ground.
Now nxt step is finding a way to boost r1 so that attackers have a fair n equal opportunity.
Defending is still op and the attack is unable to keep up.
Current state only AI timmies n losers who can’t defend R1 keep abusing the second man press and others is interested to play.
Bad work EA listening to the community and not just the sweats. Bad update. A step in the wrong direction. But pls fix AI defending next. AI defending is still way too op and unrealistic. Attacking against that is still impossible as it has been nerfed to the ground. Now nxt step is finding a way to boost r1 and LS so that attackers have a fair n equal opportunity.
Defending is still op and the attack is unable to keep up.
Current state only AI timmies n losers who can’t defend R1 keep abusing the second man press and others is interested to play.
fresh fable
Bad work EA listening to the community and not just the sweats. Bad update. A step in the wrong direction. But pls fix AI defending next. AI defending is still way too op and unrealistic. Attacking against that is still impossible as it has been nerfed to the ground. Now nxt step is finding a way to boost r1 and LS so that attackers have a fair n equal opportunity.
Defending is still op and the attack is unable to keep up.
Current state only AI timmies n losers who can’t defend R1 keep abusing the second man press and others is interested to play.
vagrant shuttle
Bad work EA listening to the community and not just the sweats. Bad update. A step in the wrong direction. But pls fix AI defending next. AI defending is still way too op and unrealistic. Attacking against that is still impossible as it has been nerfed to the ground. Now nxt step is finding a way to boost r1 and LS so that attackers have a fair n equal opportunity.
Defending is still op and the attack is unable to keep up.
Current state only AI timmies n losers who can’t defend R1 keep abusing the second man press and others is interested to play.
torpid drift
Great work EA listening to the community and not just the sweats. Good update. A step in the right direction. But pls fix fidget spinners next.
Fidget sppining is still way too op and unrealistic. Defending against that is still impossible as it has been nerfed to the ground. Now nxt step is finding a way to nerf the fidget spinners so that defenders have a fair n equal opportunity.
Dribbling is still op and the defense is unable to keep up.
Current state only streamers n sweats keep abusing the left stick mechanic and others is interested to play.