WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THIS GAME!!!

[candid goblet]

The gameplay is terrible. It's so slow. Before this patch gameplay was so quick and the game was enjoyable to play.
I've enjoyed learning the mechanics of the game with manual defending and R1 dribbling and being able to do first time quick passes, and worked my way to division 3.
BUT NOW … NONE OF THAT!

Unfortunately, most of this stems from the community not being able to learn and play the game.

GAMES WELL AND TRULY GONE.

EA SORT IT OUT!

[novel kernel]

Seems like they fixed it mate. Except for the low blocks and counter spam.

Games truly back.

EA sorted it out.

[candid goblet]

You've got to be kidding? Why would you slow the game down? Why would you buff defending and nerf attacking, it makes no sense. The game is so imbalanced. I was terrible at the start of the game couldn't get out of div 7, but then I learned how to play the game and got to div 3. Games gone mate, DO NOT be silly!

[potent hare]

Because It was too fast

[candid goblet]

So buff defending to be on par with R1 dribbling, to make you think more, which imo would make the game more enjoyable but now the gameplay is too slow it is awful

[potent hare]

They basically removed R1 dribbling
I think it wasn't as intended
It's strange that it has the same animation as those who don't have it now

[novel kernel]

It's just slower now. The R1 was overpowered for a long time and now it's not.

If you need it in order to play then that's on you. Adapt and play without abusing things.

The jockey was meant to help players close down space and intercept the ball, no to chase attackers gliding across the pitch.

Now the low block and counter spam needs to be adjusted with a little nerf to defensive AI and this will become a proper skill based game.

This is the most enjoyable the game felt since early access.

[candid goblet]

What division are you in?

[novel kernel]

Years ago when I cared? Div 1.

This year after buying the game 2 weeks ago, div 6 but I think I'll grind for a bit this weekend after the patch so who knows where I'll end up.

Only lost to players sitting deep today.

[candid goblet]

Says it all to me, the game is made for players like you. Plus if you didn't care you wouldn't be in this discord. Ta ra

[novel kernel]

And your complaints say enough about you. I care enough to want a fun balanced game to play that isn't filled with players abusing mechanics for advantages.

Close control sprint should be just that. Not speed boost glide sprint.

If you cant build up without using a broken mechanic then that's your fault.

[novel kernel]

Would you prefer the game be made specifically for people like you? It was like that the last couple of years. Didn't seem to do well.

[dark marlin]

@novel kernel im an elite division player, the game has been reverted back to an AI slop fest of people running around with their dm's letting the game defend for them, its made for frauds like you who refuse to learn the new mechanics and skill gaps, i guarantee you were a trivela spammer last year and loved it. close control sprint is now a non mechanic and might aswell not be in the game anymore, it was a skill to learn and improve at the game. you couldn't learn these new mechanics therefor you are stuck in div 6 refusing to adapt to a new playstyle, enjoy your AI defending FC25 clone full of boring games, wont make you any better.

[candid goblet]

First fifa I've played in 5 years and loved the game and loved learning the game, now it's just unplayable

[dark marlin]

depressing slow gameplay once again for another year, community to blame and lack of accountability, we want AI defending and slow gameplay gone then this year we want it back and the new speedy mechanics nerfed, idiotic

the ony things needing change were the kick offs and corners.

[candid goblet]

agreed

[dark marlin]

i love the passion in here

[novel kernel]

I disliked everything about the last couple of years and definitely didn't absue any mechanics since i didn't even play the game until January and then stopped in April.

The game during early access had no AI and that's the gameplay i want back.

This gameplay requires patience and thought. Not spam and forced ridiculous nonsense.

Adjust and you'll be fine.

[dark marlin]

im fine with the gameplay i just do not agree with people wanting it slowed down so it becomes another boring AI defending drop back counter fest

[novel kernel]

Loved everything about early access and hated it when 1.0.2 released. This is much better than it was expect for the defensive AI

[novel kernel]

Then keep mentioning the defensive AI. Not being able to boost past them anymore will allow the devs to see just how effective they now are.

[dark marlin]

I will keep mentioning defensive AI as we saw how bad it was last year and I have PTSD from it and dont want another FC25 clone where the game does everything for you and there was no skill gap what so ever

[pliant kernel]

Little timmies cried enough to ruin the game

[dark marlin]

I also get your point with controlled sprint but the issue is that it has been nerfed to the point where it is not viable in any situation, it might aswell not be a mechanic in the game, you cant even use it with players like lamine and vitinha who have tech+

@pliant kernel facts

[plush nebula]

You’re deluded mate. Yes jockey needed a buff but to then nerf attacking on top of that has created a complete imbalance. People like you who are used to ai doing everyone and not actually learning the game are the problem

[candid goblet]

yes indeed

[candid goblet]

welcome in, 🙂

[dark marlin]

morggs is spitting facts rn, you cant nerf one and buff the other. THAT CREATES IMBALANCE!

[candid goblet]

agreed

[plush nebula]

It’s just pure delusion otherwise anyone who likes this patch are people with skill issue

I’m not even great but I’m in div 3 and like how most games are deserved to who should win

We’re heading in a direction of last year where anyone can win and there’s minimal skill gap

[candid goblet]

agreed mate, I've learned the game and enjoyed learning it and I am now in div 3 too, but now we cannot enjoy the game anymore

[plush nebula]

All ea needed to do was fix corners and kickoffs, maybe adjust the byline goals too and the game would have been in a good place

[candid goblet]

agreed mate, thank you for having some common sense unlike others

[plush nebula]

Literally

People crying at high score games, get to high divisions most of my games only have a total combination of 3-4 goals some even go 1-0

[dark marlin]

Exactly, frauds who wanna trivela spam and run around with their DM for 90mins and have the game AI defend for them.

[plush nebula]

Even before the patch attacking felt harder than defending imo, I don’t fidget spin so playing normal good football was already difficult, now we’re going to have to deal with jockey abuse on top of that

Joke ea

[plush nebula]

This

[tough willow]

Calm down folks, no need to go mad. For me, feeling-wise it’s good step in the right direction. Let’s give it a few evenings play in rivals and see how the meta-spamming majority play now??

[pastel crest]

why are u so mad ben

[candid goblet]

Games gone mate

[plush nebula]

Give me one valid reason why you think this is the right direction

[pastel crest]

gme is back

is it ur first time playing this game?

[candid goblet]

you are a bum then

[plush nebula]

Maxim what div are you?

[pastel crest]

1

[plush nebula]

Your clearly not

[pastel crest]

clown

[dark marlin]

@tough willow i understand you but the problem is that the majority of the community will push this game into an early grave by making it super user friendly and allowing people to have the AI do everything for them, EA have already shown their willingness to slow the game down and make it boring and this is just the start

[plush nebula]

Otherwise you wouldn’t be saying that

[pastel crest]

hahaa

[dark marlin]

listen guys im in elite div and im telling you the game is significantly worse @pastel crest

[candid goblet]

This is true

[plush nebula]

So your div 1 in the top 5% of players, and are happy with this patch. Math ain’t mathing lad 😂

[tough willow]

For a start, I’ve been able to feel some contact when i ask my defender to make a tackle, and the attackers don’t feel so oily

[dark marlin]

a player that can dribble or has 90+ dribble should feel smooth and fast with the ball, shouldn't feel like im running around with shaq

[pastel crest]

wdym top 5% every idiot can reach div 1 just a matter of how many games u played

[candid goblet]

If you could not defend before this patch then you are the problem with this game and community, it is a simple as that

[plush nebula]

It’s literally top 5% of players are div 1 maybe not anymore since the new patch, your probably went from div 6 to div 1 today 😂

[tough willow]

And also, I keep seeing how this idea that if you’re in a higher division means your opinion has more validity? Naw mate. Just means you’re better at cheap exploits than the casual player

[pastel crest]

go cry somewhere else

mad kid

[plush nebula]

Right so what I’m getting is your a bad player and didn’t like the fact you had to learn to defend and wanted the ai to do it for you. Gocha

[candid goblet]

only exploits in the game are kickoff corners and 1 depth

[plush nebula]

Alright div 7

[dark marlin]

if you are in a higher division it means you are able to adapt and learn new mechanics if you are bad it means that you cant adapt and learn new mechanics therefor the SKILL GAP IS IN THE GAME AND YOUR OPINION is FRAUDULENT

[pastel crest]

np

[plush nebula]

Spot on

[tough willow]

Cmon, please. 🤣🤣🤣

[raven orchid]

Game is terrible right now tbh

[plush nebula]

Maxim over here in div 8 loving this patch as he can’t defend

[raven orchid]

Passing is gone

[candid goblet]

another with common sense

[raven orchid]

Every pass is intercepted or the cb or cdm flies in to intercept

[candid goblet]

welcome please spit facts

[raven orchid]

Fun manual def but how tf is passing gone after this patch

[dark marlin]

im telling you now run a poll for peopl who like the patch and people who dont like the patch and i guarantee you everyone who likes it will be div 5 or lower and everyone who dislikes it will be minimum div4 and above.

bums like the game being easier

[raven orchid]

Game isnt fixed tbh?

Passing should be the main thing to score goals

[dark marlin]

real players who can learn, improve and adapt dont like the patch as it makes it easier for worse players. something being user friendly doesnt make it good.

[raven orchid]

But now you cant even pass since its like a magnet to the opp

[dark marlin]

@raven orchid yeah everything is way slower

[plush nebula]

Kids don’t like grinding, I work full time and am div 3, serious skill issues. Back in the day you never got this ai crap, actually had to learn the game

[dark marlin]

significantly. i've got zola up front and he turns like a truck now @raven orchid

@plush nebula Im exactly the same and in elite div, we actually learn and improve and put time in to become better, people just want free hand outs like AI defending,trivela spam and running around with dm for full 90

[plush nebula]

Sick of it, games in the mud

[dark marlin]

@plush nebula i watched my friend learn and become better at the game over the last month and go from div 5 to div 3 from improving and putting the hours in, now that kinda feels like its gone out of the window to appeal to the frauds who want easy gameplay

@plush nebula games gone mate

[stray coral]

This.

[candid goblet]

I actually enjoyed learning the game but now what is the point everything just gone into bin

[plush nebula]

Yeah will be like last year now

[stray coral]

But we'll buy it next year anyway lol

[dark marlin]

@stray coral we have no other option

[stray coral]

And 90 euro's is like a fountain of money for me to spend lol.

[raven orchid]

After this patching bs nah not even bothered

Its like buying a steam game in early access

[stray coral]

We have passion for football ofc we buy it again

[raven orchid]

And they actually improve untill launch

This game goes back every update

[candid goblet]

I know I did so well

[dark marlin]

@plush nebula absolutely, community is full of little timmies who want hand outs and freebies instead of grinding for what they want

unfortunate

@stray coral its sad to say but FC27, we will be there.

[stray coral]

I'd say keep the manual defending i find it fun.

Defending with AI is not fun, just basic game a bit.

That

[dark marlin]

Yeah there is a skill to it, having the AI do it all is just depressing as there is no skill gap what so ever

[stray coral]

is it for me

[candid goblet]

That's it like before the patch you could play football, but now I don't even know what this game is

[stray coral]

It's more p2w

[dark marlin]

@stray coral always has been but atleast without AI defending you can still ball out with lower rated cards

[stray coral]

✅

Still using Sesko till this day, been a consistent striker for me. Now it's harder to score aswell!

[dark marlin]

@stray coral imagine how bad the silver tournies are going to be now, players will feel so bad

[stray coral]

Trucks

[dark marlin]

its funny how all the higher division players agree that the patch is bad but the lower division players like it...

[dark marlin]

facts

[stray coral]

Well EA dev can do what they want, the community is just interfering in a negative way.

[charred fractal]

Killed the game

[stray coral]

I remember prime fifa, never like this.

[raven orchid]

Game is slow af now right or is it my connection?

[stray coral]

Slow

Maybe both

do u have high ping?

[dark marlin]

@raven orchid its like that for everyone, funny how it has been post patch so I would assume its the game as I played a 14ping game and it felt slow and clunky

also on pc we cant finish a game as it disconnects both players randomly so you literally cant play pc rn

this company is a disgrace

[raven orchid]

Always 20ms for some reason but ingame it feels like i have high ping now😂

[raven orchid]

And opps defenders were fluid?

[dark marlin]

@raven orchid yeah but so were mine so it was just a boring asf sludgefest of slow boring gameplay

[acoustic peak]

It’s not though? The touches are horrible

[candid goblet]

the game is now horrible

[dark marlin]

@acoustic peak dont even bother with that guy hes a div 6 fraud who wants AI defending and slow gameplay to spam trivelas and run around with his dm for 90 mins with no skill

[acoustic peak]

Figures. I can’t believe he thinks he has a place to speak on balancing lol

[acoustic peak]

Yeah it should’ve been a buff to jockey but leave the dribbling how it was

[dark marlin]

@acoustic peak funny, he stopped replying after everyone disagreed with him

[acoustic peak]

Good manual defending vs good dribbling. Now it’s great manual defending vs bad dribbling

[candid goblet]

exactly, that creates the balance in the games

[dark marlin]

exactly what everyone has said, you cant buff one and then nerf the counter to it as that creates imbalance, its pretty simple stuff

[acoustic peak]

Hopefully they hear the outrage and make another change. The game was actually quite fun before

[dark marlin]

couldn't have said it better but unfortunately the majority of the playerbase are little timmies who are in low divisions averaging 4-5 wins in WL praising the new patch because it helps them

[candid goblet]

agreed was enjoyable even when losing games

[acoustic peak]

Hopefully they keep doing polls and we can express the concerns with that. Ffs the message about the update has more dislike reactions than anything. They have to know lmao

[stray coral]

However since EA is active listening to the community...

There can be a difference

[dark marlin]

@stray coral the problem is the majority of the players are bad players who like the patch so they will hear that feedback and keep it the way it is, i promise we wont get back the game we had pre-patch

games gone now

[novel kernel]

I defend on my own and only use the AI to track. I dont run around with my dms.

This update allows me to use my cbs and not be punished by speed boosts and ice skating.

Reducing the AI back to what it was during early access is the next change that has to come.

[dark marlin]

@novel kernel and the reason you are in div 6 is because you aren't good enough at manual defending as I do the same and I am in the elite div. which means there is a skill gap

[still zenith]

Who’s in Twitter?

Have y’all seen the boots update they put out lately?

[dark marlin]

nah whats happened?

[still zenith]

There’s no Adidas boots…tf is this update??
Nobody asked for the gameplay change…except for those who can’t play ofcourse!!!

[dark marlin]

@still zenith yeah we've been talking about it for a while, the game is dead.

[still zenith]

Pretty much man…😪back to square one!!!

[dark marlin]

yeah it's literally FC25 all over again

[lilac imp]

why are you acting like it isnt realistic lol? is messi a robot or something hes a real player and he was doing MORE than what you could do with prime r1 dribbling

[potent hare]

I don't think the change is that bad, they need to nerf defending AI that's all
R1 dribbling was always kind of a stupid mechanic, it really never made any sense, it was more of used as another exploit since it allowed you to slide on the pitch and gain an advantage you should've not had
It was rarely used as intended

That said, the fact it was completely destroyed is more proof of how EA goes to an extreme to another without finding balance ever, it's sickening.
I would've nerfed it but not this much tbh

[lilac imp]

havbe you ever watched messi play

?

stop acting like r1 dribbling was impossible to do in real life

[potent hare]

Yes L, Messi doesn't slide on the pitch

The problem is within the hypermotion engine and it's bs
As I said its rarely used as intended, technical i mean

[lilac imp]

fym slide on the pitch that literally never happened

just say you cant defend bro

on my life its not hard to defend it

[potent hare]

The issue now is that we have one less tool to win against cdm drop ai abusers

[lilac imp]

this year every 60 rated cb feels like van dijk with aniticipate+

all you have to do is get near them and press circle

[potent hare]

Indeed, it never happened irl

[lilac imp]

never happened in this game

[potent hare]

Sigh, that's one big delusion

[novel kernel]

The touches are the same. Left stick feels exactly the same. Everyone here is upset because they can't abuse the mechanics they're used to abusing.

Once the AI gets balanced or patched out the game will be fine.

[acoustic peak]

I’m talking about the R1 touches not left stick. You lemon. lol

[dark marlin]

@novel kernel you are in div 6 and politely you are terrible at the game your opinion on mechanics has way less behind because of your low understanding of said mechanic

[worn spindle]

I believe that ea developers are rats so they are unable to create a normal game

[candid goblet]

@novel kernel delusion must be your name

[dark marlin]

'you cant master it to become better therefor you complain about it and want the game to be easier, fraud

[lilac imp]

show a clip of it happeniong

you cant

[candid goblet]

What i have realised, everyone who 'likes' this new patch are div 5 or lower

[novel kernel]

Then what's the problem. The R1 was overpowered and now it's going to be used as a close controlled sprint and not a speed boost into space.

[acoustic peak]

The R1 was never the problem. Spinning in circles is.

[lilac imp]

literally

'tehy cant defend

'

[novel kernel]

Guess what, they've buffed jockey speed to counter the fidget spinning

Also helps close down passing lanes manually

[acoustic peak]

Also as I just said the R1 touches are bad , they are not CLOSE and CONTROLLED. It’s not even about the speed. They are not even close touches anymore and also it’s a SPRINT

[still zenith]

Gameplay is indeed terrible

[acoustic peak]

Why would R1 need to be nerfed to the ground then?

[still zenith]

I can’t even enjoy career mode

[candid goblet]

and nerfed dribbling and attacking so you cannot do anything, this is called an imbalance and it has ruined the game

[ivory fjord]

The games so bad now they need to fix it

[still zenith]

I’m playing Player Career Mode rn

[acoustic peak]

He legitimately cannot understand lol. Crazy.

[candid goblet]

now this says everthing, not career mode

[candid goblet]

yep

[still zenith]

It’s so bad….bruh I want to uninstall

[potent hare]

Well ofc I can't they nerfed it lmaooo

[candid goblet]

no mate, he is a div 6 player btw

[lilac imp]

yeah im never touching the game again

[lilac imp]

messi did glide across the pitch

and the truth is

if you have 95+ dribbling in this game

you should literally move like messi

because if its possible in real life it should DEFINITELY be possible in the game

[dark marlin]

ansey is genuinely is horrible at the game and has such a low understanding of how a balanced game should be, its like talking to a brick wall.

[potent hare]

I love Messi watched every game, honestly idk what youre talking about, best Messi movements I've seen from this franchise were from FIFA 16

[lilac imp]

best ones ive seen were fc24

the game used to be so fun back then

[still zenith]

Who asked foe this gameplay change like honestly??

[lilac imp]

you have to be mentally slow to want fifa to be realistic

[potent hare]

Heh... I mean, FC 24 wasn't exactly the most loved one

[ivory fjord]

10 year olds who can’t defend

[potent hare]

But that's also a controversial topic

[lilac imp]

and FC 25 was the most hated one

and now this game is FC25

[potent hare]

Oh yea we can all agree on that

[dark marlin]

@still zenith i will tell you who wanted this change, lower div bad players. if you look across the community, the people who like it are mostly bad players in low divs and the people who hate it are decent or good players who are in high divs

[potent hare]

FC25 was the worst

[lilac imp]

played it for 2 days

i held r1

it was slower than walking

so i just deleted the game

gonna do the same with this one now

dribbling is the fun of football and they ruined it

so

[potent hare]

It got many patches, the one made late game was actually really good then it reverted back to AI manual defending fest and everybody were sluggish

[still zenith]

Bruh I play career mode

The gameplay before the patch was actually pretty enjoyable

Now it’s not!!!

I play player career for like more than 5 hours straight

[potent hare]

Tbh I think this change is unintended.
They did say they moderately nerfed controlled sprint movements, but this isn't moderate at all

[potent hare]

How... do u enjoy that...
Its the same every game...

It always lacked immersion so bad

[lilac imp]

they literally turned it into fc25

[potent hare]

They never cared ab player career

[lilac imp]

what i think they should do is make it scale more with your dribbling stat

[still zenith]

Yeah most of the parts
Especially for the content about attributes and playstyles(player traits) renamed,it’s still the same like last year

No flexibility whatsoever like in Clubs

[potent hare]

I've been playing since FIFA 13 this was ALWAYS the issue with EA
They touch something? It's one extreme to another, they don't balance things ever
It's either broken or completely useless

[lilac imp]

if they made it scale more with your dribbling stat it wouldnt be a problem right now but it would be really broken by the time futties etc cards with 99 dribblign come out and i feel like thats how it SHOULD BE

[ivory fjord]

I’ve bought this game because they said better dribbling and now we’ve gone back a year

[sleek epoch]

Attacking ai is still terrible, but lets buff defending even more and nerf attacking further

[proven plank]

The gameplay is great stop crying this patch from EA is a great one

[lilac imp]

div 8

[ivory fjord]

Div 9

[sleek epoch]

Mate you got something to do other than hanging around discord?

[novel kernel]

But they can't exploit anymore.

[sleek epoch]

Go play authentic then

[proven plank]

If you don't be quiet i'll be hanging out the back of your mom

[lilac imp]

"exploit" and its nowhere near what messi used to do

messi was exploiting irl i guess

low iq

[still zenith]

Idiot

[sleek epoch]

Mate you have been here for hours saying how great the patch is, you did not even have time to play 😂

[lilac imp]

LOLL

[still zenith]

No one asked for this,bum

[novel kernel]

He was an anomaly in football. Not every other chick on the pitch should be replicating his movements

[proven plank]

With an edgy anime avatar like yours have you considered playing Genshin Impact instead.

[potent hare]

The game is dead during futties and only played for addiction lmaoo
I'm fine with it being broken during it 99 stats on every player

[ivory fjord]

Then play authentic

[lilac imp]

okay but now even with 99 dribbling you dribble like salah rn

[sleek epoch]

Mate nobody is asking for your repeated opinion. Play efootball or authentic

[novel kernel]

Go outside

[still zenith]

Like honestly…

[proven plank]

No

[lilac imp]

ur name is aheadterror8530 bro just stop it

[novel kernel]

Nah. Online feels enjoyable now apart from the defensive AI

[sleek epoch]

I dont know why people from div 8 get that ea patch the game to the ground once again after bad players cry hard enough they cant defend

[potent hare]

Idk I'm still in Div 3
Haven't played yet, will let u know if I like it
I'm one who skill alot and I do used R1 too, I did play a few sb games and noticed how the cpu plays more ratty with low block and my Vitinha was useless w R1 lol

[sleek epoch]

Thats the whole problem

Ai defending being buffed since early access

So we had to rely on left stick and r1 to counter it once it improved

[proven plank]

I've climbed 3 divs since the patch i really don't get the negativity

[sleek epoch]

From what div 8?

Thats exactly the problem there is no skill gap

[proven plank]

thats where you wil be without yourr claudia pina m8

[novel kernel]

Great. On the same page.

Without speed boosts and exploits the devs will be able to adjust the AI to better suit what you're playing now.

Hopefully something similar to early access.

[sleek epoch]

Dont care about pina mate

Dont get the whole women being op thing

[proven plank]

your clearly a fidgetspinning melt

[lilac imp]

yeah thats what im saying

and i get to actually have 99 dribbling

[sleek epoch]

Mate just have a normal discussion will ya

[lilac imp]

when i get the stat

[sleek epoch]

Hate the fidget spinning aspect bjt has nothing to do with r1 and defending ai

[candid goblet]

That is because you are a bum that could not play the game in the first place. Ta ra

[sleek epoch]

Not going to happen

Sadly

[acoustic peak]

@novel kernel you’re typing a lot but ignoring my question , dead end?

[novel kernel]

It definitely won't if there are threads like this crying about R1 being nerfed or the game feeling slower.

Complain about the AI and it'll be looked into.

I would've preferred the AI to be nerfed too but I'll take the controlled sprint not allowing players like silver garrincha to slide past my manual defending.

[candid goblet]

if someone slides past you it is because your defending is not very good

simple as that

no arguement needed

[sleek epoch]

Revert r1 back - 10-15% of it. Make it so you can actually fully sprint alongside an r1 player (was never possible since it was introduced) the jog along at a lower speed. And nerf defending ai

[novel kernel]

Well I've done it today and it's happened to me too.

Maybe you're just not good enough to do it without the exploit.

[dark marlin]

please no one interact with @novel kernel the guy is genuinely lost and has 1 braincell

[candid goblet]

what exploits

[sleek epoch]

They will never get rid of their defending ai buff. Otherwise the bad players will be here crying again.

[candid goblet]

are you insane in the brain

Let me spell it out for you. 'Manual defending' requires YOU to defend, so if someone if getting past you that is on YOU, not some exploit you are claiming. YOU

[orchid maple]

Just revert R1. Too many people complaining they’ll revert it

[drifting schooner]

Yeah they probably Will revert it if many ppl complain

I didnt even know people complained about r1 dribbling

Before the patch today

[lilac imp]

only below div 5 they do

[drifting schooner]

Well the ones who is good yeah

Div 3 hive stand up

[potent sorrel]

W patch EA

[drifting schooner]

Nah Big L for the game

Welcome to fc25

[potent sorrel]

I’m having fun , sorry to hear you’re not

[sleek epoch]

Its not that hard:

• nerf defending ai but keep jockeying
• buff attacking ai
• bring back r1 -10-15%
• make it possible to sprint alongside a player using r1
• dont nerf leftstick
• dont nerf passing

[potent sorrel]

W patch EA

[lilac imp]

literally

[drifting schooner]

Or just the same patch before today

[sleek epoch]

Would prefer less defending ai and more jockeying speed

[drifting schooner]

Fairs

[sleek epoch]

The cdm sitback meta is still to relevant

[drifting schooner]

Idc tbh

[sleek epoch]

I agree but just dont nerf attacking and buff defending at the same time

[drifting schooner]

Yeah so stupid fr

[orchid maple]

Invest your entire savings into servers as well ea

[sleek epoch]

• the game feels sluggish

[orchid maple]

That’s the main issue that makes you slow

[potent hare]

This ^
Maybe just maybe nerf leftstick a little but just a little

[sleek epoch]

Dont touch it ea, nerf womens strength if you wanna nerf something. If they try nerf leftstick it will be dead

[drifting schooner]

Agree

[ivory fjord]

They only need to fix short corners

[novel kernel]

What they need to do is nerf the AI back to early access.

Short corners should be easier to defend now that holding r1 on the byline is reduced and you can cut the lanes better with the jockey boost.

But I don't know what I'm talking about apparently.

[trail kindle]

Happens every year where it starts off ok then they constantly half attempt to update it to make the game unidentifiable within a couple of months

[candid goblet]

Because unfortunately the little timmies out number the players who have learned the game and complain so EA have to cater to them

[still zenith]

Yo guys

Squad Update is out

[potent hare]

So true 😭😭😭

[raven orchid]

They need to nerf it stamina wise, which player can keep turning like that without losing the ball

But they need to get rid of the script seriously, after this update its obvious af.

Cant even keep possession

[potent hare]

They won't do that

[plucky wharf]

Great work EA listening to the community and not just the sweats.

This is a step in the right direction. Good update. But EA please fix fidget spinners next.

However the fidget sppining is still way too op and unrealistic. Defending against that is still impossible as defending has been nerfed to the ground.

The next step is finding a way to nerf the fidget spinners so that defenders have a fair and equal opportunity.

The dribbling is still op responsive and the jockey is unable to keep up.
In this current state only streamers and sweats keep abusing the left stick mechanic and nobody else is interested to play.

[drifting schooner]

R1 dribbling and left stick turning around is not the same but those in the community with 0 IQ wants r1 dribbling done cuz they Think it Will make fidget spinners mad but to do that you have to nerf agility on women but with this community you cant expect anything

[potent hare]

You basically want to ruin the game once and for all, why?

[zinc thicket]

all the players who enjoy this patch are the ones who holds their cdm s all game and let the ai defening and r1 press to the job

[proven plank]

Or he likes the patch and enjoys the new gameplay not everyone shares your agenda

[potent hare]

Dude what you guys want is not to move, I don't get it

You guys genuinely don't wanna have responsive players, I don't get it

[proven plank]

you pass and move not spam r1 dribble 24/7 and fidgetspin

[potent hare]

How don't you realize defending is OP rn? And it's not about skill, it's about sitting deep and controlling one player, how do you think that's a good thing? Counters are still too OP.

I'm fine with low blocks but they should drain stamina and not allow fast counterattacks

Also rn jockey is as good as attackers spinning so idk what youre talking about
Why nerfing movement further? It will be in favor of the cpu defending rats

[plucky wharf]

Because they just keep rotating rotating like a fidget

It's so boring sitting there seeing people spin like tops

For no reason just becuae they want to break the defense code and get an opening

[buoyant plover]

So counter attack non stop is better? Having 9 defenders back at once is better?

[potent hare]

Maybe because AI defending is OP and playing a low block has no negative sides?

People just select their cdm, low block and counter
There is no repercussion
Is this what u want?

[plucky wharf]

Yeah or because r1 and left stick are so op and defending is nerfed that's why people have so many defenders back

[proven plank]

i want a game that resembles something of a football game which we have now not rocket league

[potent hare]

I don't get this one since u can score too given the defending should be nerfed for ur opponent too

[potent hare]

FUT formula was never realistic

[plucky wharf]

Same holds for everything. If r1 is nerfed it is nerfed for your opponent too

[potent hare]

So it will basically be a counter fest since again it has no repercussions

9 atb, track with your cdms only and counters

Is this your ideal gameplay?

[plucky wharf]

No way and that's not how I play but my idea of a game is not to see half my team being brain dead and let opponents spin around them or just pass through because they pressed r1

[potent hare]

And I get it
However by further nerfing movement you are allowing your opponent to do one thing

Dropping back
Select their cdm and cdm only
And let the automatic defense do the rest
Not to mention they buffed jockey so the cdm will track all your runs
Even worse if agility will be nerfed, you won't be able to do anything.

"well I'll pass around till they'll open like irl"

Surely, except, trust me, they'll wait for U till the end of the game
THAT'S THE PROBLEM

They want u to attack, so that they inevitably get the ball back by doing nothing and counter all the time

If you really want agility to be nerfed

You should also want AI defense to be NERFED TO THE GROUND too

Because YOU player should be the one defending

[plucky wharf]

For sure if their is no op. Mechanic in attacking

[potent hare]

Not the cpu

[plucky wharf]

Yes this would be the most fair solution

[uneven obsidian]

It is just fc25 now and nobody wants that expect those noobs

[potent hare]

Exactly
If u want to nerf agility a little, which Im fine w it because not everyone should move like messi
AI DEFENDING HAS TO BE NERFED TO THE GROUND

[drifting schooner]

Nerf women agility and it would be perfect

Why make dribbling useless

[potent hare]

Novody said that. Just a little nerf so that not everyone feels like they are the same, I see little diversity from small players,
Surely women should be nerfed but doing all these things it's useless if U don't nerf ai defending

[drifting schooner]

Agreed

But dribbling now is useless for me who knows how to dribble and make skills

Its just a Counter and defending and passing spam simulator now

[north ingot]

Because that's the only way defensive AI even makes a mistake. People abuse the defensive AI all the time, so attackers need a way to break it. It needs to be an even game. If the defender always is at an advantage it's a counter festival.

[potent hare]

Same, I play w skills too, before nif CR7 was usable, now you bump AGAINST AI walls

Fun

Look, I would accept AI blocks if low depth meant killing your stamina and make counterattacks slower

[north ingot]

Why even give us a tech+ evo btw. I'll do it just to discard the card I used in it, since it's useless

[potent hare]

Lol true

Also novody talked ab it but us wingers in clubs got severely nerfed

Since our archetype is technical+

[potent hare]

Irl committing to defense is about absolute focus and it drains your mental and physical energy to always drop back and close the lanes

Here you can do it the entire match like it's nothing and counter like crazy everytime

That's not how it should work

[drifting schooner]

Yeah facts

[drifting schooner]

Exactly…..

[north ingot]

I tried Dribbling with my RR Olise yesterday. Peter Crouch felt better

[sleek epoch]

All good the timmies can play now.. gg ea im out

[scenic ferry]

It’s all for the crybabies who couldn’t defend or win joke

[sleek epoch]

Defending literally takes no skill now

[north ingot]

Im gonna say it now, this park the bus is worse than in Fc25

And its not even close

Because finesse shots aren't good enough outside the box to punish it.

[potent hare]

Exactly omg, it's worse

Man, I'm not touching it

What's worse is that Im also a clubs player and my winger is severely nerfed now

[north ingot]

And saying " We dont touch Left Stick" is a lie.

They touched all the mechanics that counter it. Bumps everywhere, AI defending is stronger in the box than in 25, so yeah, they touched it, by making all the defensive mechanics insanely strong and create bumps everywhere (Which dont even result in a penalty if they push your player over, but if you push, but the opponent still stands, guess what....)

[jade condor]

Idk if I can do champs this weekend with the sit back meta, the game was enjoyable 2 days ago, it feels like a chore so far today

[north ingot]

Did Nick overreact a slight bit? Maybe

Is his point still right? Yes

[plucky wharf]

He is the epitome of baby throwing toys out of the pram as he can't abuse a mechanic to win anymore

It was an embarrassing video

[glass drum]

what div are you

[proven plank]

Bro was crying after 5 mins of gameplay saying defending was OP while conceding 6 goals

[glass drum]

o sry cuz we dont play with fullback defend sorry

and the cm on defend

and all the team on defend

[plucky wharf]

🧂🧂🧂

[plucky wharf]

Bro he is salty rn

As he is no longer able to win anything because his broken mechanic was taken away

So crying all over the place

[north ingot]

Sorry, but my tactics are completely useless now. I finally could play my fullbacks in a attacking manner before thr patch, now it's all back to Fullback Defend

[worn spindle]

Nonsense if u played attacking backs before the patch u would concede counters more than the stars in the sky

[north ingot]

Maybe, but at least I was able to break down defensive settings with posession. Now it's dead.

[raw eagle]

Mate i read the start, the guy saying good change is div6

just got to play champs

anyone saying its good is tragic at the game

thats about it

[worn spindle]

Rats trying to rationalize their anger towards the patch is called crying

[north ingot]

So, you prefer a counter park the bus meta, because it doesn't take any skill?

[raw eagle]

I dont think being able to play attacking football = being a rat

the rats were the kids who would sit back and counter

and now its even stronger

[worn spindle]

It was like this before the patch don't be delusional

[raw eagle]

bro yall actually dont get it

[worn spindle]

It takes now build up skill

[raw eagle]

i could break down my opponent even when they had 9 players in the box

[north ingot]

I did play Bruninha as an additional Winger, when my opponent parked to bus, now it's absolutely f...

[raw eagle]

now its next to impossible if they just sit and play for counters

[worn spindle]

Because of op mechanics not skill

[raw eagle]

i didnt spam r1 if thats what ur saying

[north ingot]

Which op mechanics? Which ones, explain

[raw eagle]

i break them down now, because of op mechanics

like the l1 step over

and the skill cnacels

[worn spindle]

Assisted through passed with nerfed defence

[north ingot]

You mean passes, you mean skill moves at the right time?

[worn spindle]

Pina bullying van dijk

[raw eagle]

im spamming the broken skills and cancels now to open space

[worn spindle]

Lol lol lol

[north ingot]

Yeah, now they're still assisted but for counters.

[raw eagle]

thats the gameplay yall think is skillfull?

spamming glithcy skills and mechs?

[worn spindle]

It was extremely assisted

And now still but at least intercepted

[north ingot]

They're still assisted now, but only in counters. Are you blind?

[raw eagle]

through balls idc bro

im happy they nerfed that

it was too assisted i agree

[north ingot]

You intercept or your ai ?

[raw eagle]

but u cant play now mate

[worn spindle]

Me

[raw eagle]

the ai is super op

[raw eagle]

yea this is cap

this kid plays 20 depth, r1 pressing for his life while jockeying on cdm

i can bet

[worn spindle]

Lol

[sleek epoch]

I would prefer playing fc 25

[north ingot]

Ismail. The defensive AI is insanely strong in Div 1 and Elite. People only control their cdms and spam tackles and you tell me this is good????

[worn spindle]

And it was so before the patch

[raw eagle]

man they arent seeing the long term implications of this change

[sleek epoch]

Takes more skill than that rubbish

[raw eagle]

they are happy that they can now defend with ease

[north ingot]

But there were skill gaps to break them down. Skill moves are dead now, Tiki take is dead, Dribbling is dead

[raw eagle]

itw ill take like 1-2 weeks for all the sweats to adapt

and the game will feel dead

unless its changed

[sleek epoch]

Well they lost a 10+ player only thing i can do

[raw eagle]

just watch

[jade condor]

Oh this game is gonna be dead in about a month and a half, cause it's gonna be a Ballache to play

[sleek epoch]

Anybody interested in an Account?

[raw eagle]

yea

[worn spindle]

I am happy build up is rewarded

[raw eagle]

this isnt balance

[raw eagle]

tiki taka was insane before btw

if u think build up wasnt rewarded

u have to be really bad icl

[worn spindle]

Bro can u please try building up like real football be creative

[north ingot]

Build up was rewarded before as well, it was even better pre Patch.

[worn spindle]

Nope was not

[raw eagle]

yea says enough about you imma stop arguing

mb div 6 cutie

i forgot u need ai handholding

keep it up

u got this bro

[worn spindle]

Was not because of ai defending and park the bus

[north ingot]

Don't tell me what's real football. This is a video game. Olise doesn't move like a truck irl, like he does now.

[worn spindle]

So everyone was abusing counters

[north ingot]

Ismail is talking out of his a...

[worn spindle]

Now at least thos counter rats are nerfed

[plucky wharf]

Lol bro trying to flaunt his div as his lifetime achievement

[raw eagle]

BRO

[plucky wharf]

Get a job and do something in life instead

[raw eagle]

what are u saying

the game is pure counter now....

what am i reading

[north ingot]

Counters are stronger than ever

[raw eagle]

I aint

[worn spindle]

Indeed rats are results based rather than skill based

[raw eagle]

did i mention my div?

[worn spindle]

They don't enjoy they can't

[raw eagle]

im pointing out yalls div to

maybe english also might be hard for yall

[glass drum]

say it comeon say the div why you are not saying it😂

[raw eagle]

need ea to buff the ai to read english too?

[jade condor]

Wait what?

[north ingot]

I have a posession based playstyle since Fifa 15 and this game completely opresses posession playstyle.

[plucky wharf]

Div 9999

[worn spindle]

Now who is talking nonsense it was not possible

[glass drum]

loook look:)))))))))))))

[north ingot]

Div 1 and Elite are Hell on earth now as a posession player.

[raw eagle]

Man the people saying the patch is good either didnt play before fifa20 or werent good at all back then and it shows

[glass drum]

hahaha he is soooo funny

[raw eagle]

from a competitive standpoint nothing comes close to 17

[glass drum]

he is that bad

[raw eagle]

actual football

[glass drum]

thats why he likes it

[plucky wharf]

🤣🤣

It's so fun seeing you all cry babies

[north ingot]

R1 was maybe too op, yes, but nerfing it and buffing defensive mechanics at the same time was too much

[glass drum]

why you dont say the div

[worn spindle]

I like it and enjoy it and love ot and will play it and will swim in ur tears u and all the rats

[raw eagle]

bro honestly idc about r1

[glass drum]

its that hard

[raw eagle]

why do my players not move

thats what i dont get

[north ingot]

Even with this gameplay I'd beat you 9-0 without trying

[jade condor]

I think this is the point people are missing, they should've only done the defensive buff imo

[plucky wharf]

And then?

[raw eagle]

defence is always meant to be reactionary

[worn spindle]

Bring it on

[raw eagle]

thats how irl workd

u react to people who attack

and create space

[sleek epoch]

To boost the timmies

[raw eagle]

u dont dominate by having an aura radius around u

[sleek epoch]

They did some other stuff they did not tell

[raw eagle]

!!!!!!

THIS

[loud flax]

istg jockey was better before

[raw eagle]

a guy

with braincells

dribbling doesnt work bro

at all

its terrible

[north ingot]

Most of you need defense to hold your hand, because that's the only thing that somehow stops you from dropping into Fut Challangers.

At least the guys down there know they are Casuals and enjoy the game their way, you guys have to ruin it for everyone. Even winning isnt fun now.

[sleek epoch]

Now its bounce back no skill meta once agaib

[raw eagle]

people can get the ball from behind u and from ridiculous angles just by running into the attacker

[loud flax]

r1 is not the same as left stock but they completely destroyed it

[raw eagle]

no need to tackle the ball at all

[loud flax]

passing is horrible too

[glass drum]

i feel like we are talking to div 7 players

[sleek epoch]

Honestly defendig made more sense before the buff

[raw eagle]

+1

[glass drum]

aint no way they like this gameplay

[worn spindle]

Because it is not assisted

[loud flax]

wym

[worn spindle]

So now u know u r a horrible passed not the delusional de bruyne

[raw eagle]

Only through balls mate

not regular passing

which is not as responsive now

[north ingot]

Actual Div 7 players enjoyed the game, because they played for fun, wannabe Div 2 and 1 players think they are good again, because the game is back to FC 25

[worn spindle]

It is more manual

[loud flax]

🤣🤣🤣

[raw eagle]

bro this kid....

[jade condor]

I'm still yet to hear an argument from you on why a pass should not go through if I've seen a clear pass through and taken the opportunity

[loud flax]

i feel like defending is horrible too

[glass drum]

you are right this is the state of the game right now

[north ingot]

My friend is Div 8 and he had fun with his Belgium Team, because he could move, pass and turn. He didnt even care about wins or losses.

[worn spindle]

Bro bla bla bla bring it on play against ms

[loud flax]

jockey was better before and i have 2 jockey ps+ cbs

[jade condor]

Bro I was changing teams every week just trying people out cause it was fun

[loud flax]

they take more heavy steps

[glass drum]

that kid is ok look at this kid @plucky wharf

[north ingot]

Surely they're rage baiting

[worn spindle]

Do u believe Urself ? U didn't use pina, salma aor wilson .?.?

[glass drum]

i hope so

[jade condor]

No actually I didn't

[north ingot]

I used Matsukubo, Lingard, Al Arab and Jo Hyeon Woo

[jade condor]

I can list every card I used if this guy wants me to

[glass drum]

neah guys

this kids are playing in div 7-8

max 6

[jade condor]

Sounds like a good time pre patch

[glass drum]

they are so bad that they like the game

[worn spindle]

About the division again

[jade condor]

What div are you?

[worn spindle]

Result fixed sas a lot about you

[glass drum]

they are not saying cuz they are div 6 max

[north ingot]

Its not about the divisions, it's about the pretending to know how the game should be, while the only thing they do is sit back and counter.

[jade condor]

Ik

[worn spindle]

Bot saying to annoy u

To let u keep talking non sense

[glass drum]

ok

i can send a screenshot that i am div 2

[jade condor]

The patch mostly benefits the horrible players that didn't wanna learn how to defend tbh

[glass drum]

i only played 2 games after the pach

and didnt like it

say the div now

kid

[jade condor]

I am also div 2

[glass drum]

send a screenshot

comeon

or you have no balls

[loud flax]

who honestly likes the patch

[jade condor]

I would like to know where ismail is sat

[glass drum]

only the div 6 kids

[plucky wharf]

🤣🤣🤣

More tears

[glass drum]

look at this kid too:)))))))))))

[plucky wharf]

😂😂😂

[glass drum]

neah

i was elite div in fc 25 it was not that hard

anyone was elite in fc 25

cuz is a no skill game

[worn spindle]

Will not and let u keep saying nonsense and then when I want i ll show everyone and will all laugh at u

[plucky wharf]

So what bro?

[north ingot]

I was Elite since Fifa 19, it's actually pretty easy.

[plucky wharf]

You keep touting your div like it means anything to anyone else

It doesn't

You are just 1 gamer

Let that sink in

And let go of your god complex

[glass drum]

why you cant say the div

its that low?

offff

sorry kid

[jade condor]

You need ai to help your ego lad

[glass drum]

:)))))))))))))))))))))

[north ingot]

People in high divs are more likely to interact with the game now, hence EA definitely needs to listen to us. We are the people that dont throw the game away after 2 months, because the next hot thing comes around

[glass drum]

guys when you talk here you ask chatGPT what to say?

[jade condor]

I ain't even buying cod thus year, Ima be playing for months on end

[north ingot]

They basically killed all the joy. My Korean and Angel City evos are too slow, gameplay is terrible now, menu content is bad...

Its like EA hate their hard-core player base.

[jade condor]

I hope they just say sike with the scream promo and we go back to week 1 gameplay without the kickoff and corners

[glass drum]

i dont even want any promos at all

[worn spindle]

U r an extremely funny guy

[north ingot]

I dont give a damn about the scream promo tbh. No Promo can make the gameplay better

[jade condor]

I might just start trading cause at least that's fun

[glass drum]

thats like a chatgpt answer:)))))))))))))))))))

[north ingot]

I did play for the sole reason of playing in the last weeks, not the rewards, now it's like a job again.

[worn spindle]

Can i ask u a question what div r u ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🐭

[glass drum]

i said

div 2

[worn spindle]

Wait a minute I don't care

[glass drum]

how

so funny

[worn spindle]

High IQ it was a troll question u super skilled guy

[plucky wharf]

Wow wow wow

[jade condor]

What a name btw

[plucky wharf]

It is amazing now ea should give you stocks

[worn spindle]

He gets the crown

[glass drum]

bro neah

this are kids

[plucky wharf]

Haha right

[worn spindle]

Maybe ot adds some braincells

[plucky wharf]

Or a clowns hat

[glass drum]

how old are you boys

[calm escarp]

30

[plucky wharf]

Nope he traded it to get to a "high" div

Which is now his lifetime achievement

[north ingot]

30 as well. Lived through the good times of Fifa without ai defensive rats. Something they'll never do

[worn spindle]

Ahhh now i understand why is he so opessesd

[pseudo dirge]

100% agree with this

[jade condor]

I'm 19 and at uni, I literally use the game as some escapism in my free time

[glass drum]

kids stop it now

[plucky wharf]

Be careful

[calm escarp]

waiting for the exhaAaAale

[glass drum]

go play fornite leave us

[plucky wharf]

He is now working all his 2 braincells

To come up with an intelligent retort

But keeps thinking of just r1

As he hasn't done anything else in life

[north ingot]

So, we now go into personal insults instead of discussing the game properly?

Yeah, guess those guys are trolls

[jade condor]

Btw r1 was unbelievably easy to defend

[plucky wharf]

Apart from reaching a *high" div

[north ingot]

R1 was really easy to defend. Most people ran in a straight line anyways.

[jade condor]

Literally

I can't think of a single time someone has scored and I thought, "r1 needs a nerf"

[north ingot]

The only thing that needed to be nerfed about it, was this weird animation, when you changed directions and the ball basically has gone around people.

[glass drum]

I m still waiting for you to tell me when you can

[north ingot]

Those are the things people dont see, but I expect EA to see those things, because for high skilled players those animations are sooooo obvious

[plucky wharf]

@worn spindle seems he wasn't able to come back with anything

So again went back to what div what div

[glass drum]

tell me and I wont tell you anything else

[north ingot]

Guess expecting the EA community to behave like grown ups is a thing they can't patch

[round mason]

Laggy piece of ****

[north ingot]

Now it makes sense tho... They kill the gameplay and then in return buff rewards and evos, so the torture we have to endure seems more "worth it"

[jade condor]

Tbh, it's just mostly people with huge egos, that think they're sick

[glass drum]

I just want to see what the difference is between a good player and a bad one because its already absurd for everyone to believe that the game is good as it is now and that it wasn't better before, because in the end what matters are the players who have a higher division, not a lower one like yours

[north ingot]

I still expect EA to add a crossplay button so I can deactivate matching pc players only. Still didn't happen

[raw eagle]

why are we scared to tell our div

?

[glass drum]

and i am the crazy one

[raw eagle]

surely we cant be playing challengers and trying to influence how the game is palyed

if ur not good why should the game be buffed in a way that makes u better

thats not how competitive gaming works

whats up with these kids man

[potent hare]

Tbh it was like 1% of people so it certainly wasn't easy or given, I too was there but yea, that means you are good at the game usually

[glass drum]

they are too stupid to tell us to see why they like the game

imagine he is saying div 3

yea he got div 3

after the pach'

before he was div 7 max

[raw eagle]

Man im old, ill refer to valorant here. Off late with new patches and stuff i keep getting worse. I accept it cause im just getting older and im not as good as i was(in val)

i dont cry to buff the game according to my skill set

if people are good, they should be rewarded'

its simple

[glass drum]

i am a cs player and trust me the game is gone for 2 years

[raw eagle]

exactly bro

how are we running into players from behind

and getting the ball

cant remmber the last time i played footy and started hum..... my bro

[north ingot]

Because it's a nice noob mechanic.

[glass drum]

neah guys its more"realistic"

[raw eagle]

to get the ball

[sleek epoch]

it was back for a month

anybody want to play bf

[potent hare]

The guys advocating for realism should just ask EA to put authentic mode in FUT and let us choose
I would personally rather the game to be responsive and with as less cpu and assistance as possible

[sleek epoch]

true for div 7 probably

[north ingot]

I had so much fun before. Now it's just through balls spam and bumping.

[glass drum]

neah cs2 its trash i loved csgo and it will be forever in my heart

[raw eagle]

man its how it works games change over time

only issue with this community is they cant accept it and want it to stay exactly the way they had it for a few years

witrh def getiing stronger

every year

[potent hare]

Besides FUT was never realistic at all
It was never developed as a realistic formula, heck we have women mixed with men, nothing realistic ab it, it's a game smh

[north ingot]

The fact that nobody at ea even thinks their stuff through shows in this patch

[glass drum]

yes i feel like no game is good and thats sad

[north ingot]

Its a video game.

[sleek epoch]

always has been an arcade game

[glass drum]

this fc started sooo weeellll

[raw eagle]

this is my take, might be a bit controversial

[sleek epoch]

dont get the obsession over "realism" is missing in fut now

[raw eagle]

Gaming started dying when companies started patching games accoridng to community needs instead of making the community adapt to what they thought worked for the game

[sleek epoch]

especially since adding female players

[raw eagle]

now everyone has to do what community says to stay relevant and unfortunately, the majority of players will always be bad

[sleek epoch]

well yeah the div 87 players can play fut champs now bc everybody left

[raw eagle]

the good players are always <5%

[glass drum]

but i dont know its sad that ea listen to the 5 years old and the guys that play in div 6

[raw eagle]

so it kinda kills gaming listening to the bad ones

[potent hare]

Again, I get people want a simulative experience online, this is the only decent game they and we have when it comes to football
So, again, let people choose

But they shouldn't ruin the experience for other people
I also play career mode full manual with realistic sliders, but that would be boring for lots of people because it's generally much slower and simulative
People shouldn't be shamed for liking a faster more arcadey responsive gameplay and they shouldn't be shamed for preferring a simulation either
Both should be a thing in every mode imo

[glass drum]

and what should ea do

[potent hare]

Probably just put both game modes online tbh

[raw eagle]

agreed

but

now the game is going to be counters and spamming broken skills

its going to be more gimmicky than ever

id rather defend a broken r1

[glass drum]

neah spamming through balls

r1 through ball

[raw eagle]

than someone fidget spinning, trying to skill cancel every 2 seconds and figuring out how to speed boost

[glass drum]

after winnig poss

[raw eagle]

just to give a rebound and

then the kid dropping back for 90 minutes yk

theres no fun in that

[potent hare]

The issue there is not the gameplay itself
Is the assistance given by AI when it comes to defense
People obviously say "why risk if the game can play for me?"

Hence, cdm track back, let the defense defend for u
Counter = optimal way to have a meaningless goal
Low block = optimal way to defend without many risks

[raw eagle]

yes thank you

i always said this, i always will

idm r1 nerf

neither do i mind jockey buff

lets make it a bit more even, sure

thats all fine

kill AI def

make the defending manual

and let def be op

so if ur actually good no one can do anything ab it

[glass drum]

dont know hope ea can make a new update and give us what we want not to the div 7 players

[potent hare]

R1 was a way to do something against people low block, now instead we have even less tools to do anything ab it
Because they also buffed jockey so cdms can fly trough the pitch and track everything

Jockey buff is fine

But not touching AI defending isnt

[glass drum]

@raw eagleIm curious what division that boy was

cuz he is now saying it

[potent hare]

I already said this but low block should stay a thing, however it should drain stamina much faster and make counters slower

[glass drum]

and talks here alot

[potent hare]

And ofc less AI
The game shouldn't promote this
It doesn't make sense to let the game defend for u

[glass drum]

this is the problem

i dont like players that is holding his cdm and defending using ai

[potent hare]

Lower divs won't talk ab this because people play for fun so they don't bother AB the meta
But higher divs will use the meta and use any tool they have to win, and the most effective tool yet the most BORING they have now is dropping back and track w anybody but their cbs

But it doesn't take me or anyone else to realize this isn't fun and has nothing to do w skills

If you score, it should be because you deserved it

Not because you skill at the right time and a non selected player stops u anyway

But these people somehow demonize skill moves too, admittedly what I will always consider the most effective skill gap there is
Because this is a goddamn game and skill moves are combinations of buttons pressed fast and with the right timing and situations
What is more skillful than that in a videogame?

Not talking ab broken skill exploits like the croqueta from fifa 19 ofc

Real skill moves

[candid goblet]

It’s not about the metas in the game, because no matter what game you play there is a meta.

It’s more the fact that you can’t use a mechanic that is in the game for you to be able to dribble in space quickly and passes off the ball or maybe even a shot at goal. Then EA decide to buff jockeying which, I agree needed doing, but you don’t then nerf dribbling and attacking because that creates and imbalance in the game and the game should be balanced no matter the skill gap.

But after to talking to people in lower divisions this benefits them more because they can now defend and not concede as many goals. And unfortunately the community isn’t good enough to learn one of the best fifa games in years to take it back to the terrible fifa 25.

So in conclusion, EA sort it out and stop listening to the little timmies. Let players enjoy the fast paced and competitive gameplay

[jade condor]

Yh tbh, keep the jockey buff just reverse the r1 nerf, I'm sure that will fix alot of issues tbh. And if people disagree, u r deffo and AI needing rat who wants ur hand held

[golden blade]

the gameplay is so slow and the most enjoyable thing is attacking and it's not enjoyable anymore we want to fix the slow of the gameplay and keep the jockey we don't mind just make the manual definse more powerfull and make the game like before because we enjoyed the fast gameplay and attacking and return the half of the R1 dribbling that's it

and just make the R1 usable

or make it as good as before

[candid goblet]

That’s it mate keep r1 the same and keep defending how it is now.

It’s a competitive game, it shouldn’t be slow paced at all. On UT to play Rivals or Champs you go onto the ‘COMPETITIVE’ section to play competitively

But people who aren’t good will moan. “We can’t win because it’s too quick and competitive” that’s because the game is quick and competitive honestly absolutely bums

Sorry lost my head for a second there lol

[golden blade]

np mate 🤙

[candid goblet]

🤣

[tough willow]

I don’t agree. In today’s game, I bounce between div 7 and 8 and up until the new patch, EVERY game was the same. Dull, dull, dull, with every opponent playing the same way.

I had a few games of Rivals and the challenger tourney last night and games were all different, playing different ways and scoring different goals. I beat guys, I lost some. But for the first time in this version of the game, I enjoyed it

[jade condor]

I'm in div 2 rn, the game consists of my opponent having his DMs on the edge of the box and then countering every time he gets the ball. The game is good, it's just the players that play it imo

[tough willow]

Yeah that’s true right enough. I said before in a previous post, I don’t know who’s to blame for FC26s shortcomings , EA or the players.

But still. It’s an enjoyable game now. Any time exploits and METAs get quashed is good.

[jade condor]

I put no blame on EA, it's clear they are trying to please the player base which is good. However many people in the community absolutely HATE even the thought of losing cause it hurts their ego, so they'll just grab a pros tactics and defend for their lives or use some other meta thing

[tough willow]

Exactly. So the REAL problem is thw darn YouTubers who promote their silly faces next to ‘xxx OP scoring method is INSANE!”

And then the sad boys lap it up and play like automatons again. Yawn

[jade condor]

Yep, I'm running a 4411 atm with both CMs on box to box, just flying at people and it's great. I'm trying new players every week. Like this game is good for me

[tough willow]

Same. Well. 442 diamond with the dude at the CDM on that new box-crasher setting. Nice late runs

[potent hare]

What was that different?

[tough willow]

Well I played all sorts of games; ones where people played off a big ST, games where’s folks run fast wingers, games played on the counter. Much more varied. But moreso were the goals. Just a variety of them being scored, with maybe 75% less of the fidget spinners playing it around the area until you fall asleep or get hypnotised. Just made for an infinitely more enjoyable experience than it was. With EVERY opponent playing the same dull META way.

[potent hare]

We are talking ab low divs, in higher everybody plays the same

And no, it's not cuz of the players, IT'S EA they have to nerf ai defending

Ofc the player wants to win and will resort to every tactic

But if u nerf ai defending theyll be forced to learn how to switch

[wet eagle]

All they need to do is balance the attacking with the defending and not make one broken and the other unplayable

[tough willow]

Granted, I’m sure higher division play means there’s no opportunity to play an enjoyable game of football and it’s all about META spamming. I just maintain those guys are the minority, not the majority. The majority want to just play an enjoyable game of football.

[wet eagle]

IMO people want a fun game and the reality of fc and fifa the game hasn’t been enjoyable for ages as the community moan about everything

[potent hare]

It doesn't take a genius to realize that if you nerf AI defending people will have to learn how to defend
There's no excessively OP mechanic this year apart rainbow + bicycle kick but that will be hopefully patched

So people even in higher divs will be forced to switch

[tough willow]

Low driven shot diagonally from just beyond the penalty spot is still a stinky lowbrow META though. That still needs balancing out

Like I mentioned a day or two back, I lost a game 13-5 or so, and the other dude did 11 of his goals the same way. That was pre-patch though just for clarity. I’m fairly sure if we played the same match now, it would be the same

So yeah, there very much IS still OP nonsense in the game

[worn spindle]

I do apologize for everyone i mocked or trolled after the patch was released that was wrong of me, the game is extremely inconsistent and it is due to ea devs who are incompetent

[potent sorrel]

it’s ok bro, most wouldn’t apologize for sht

big respects

[steady geyser]

Slow gameplay is ok, people want football game, not arcadish fast pingpong game for 10 years old kids.

[wet eagle]

Realistic= not fun arcadey= fun

[steady geyser]

Nah, it is generalisation. It is not football when almost every match end up with results like 7:8 or 9:7. It is football or NHL?

[shut spruce]

UT should be arcadey, but why are the defenders just placeholders in past patches. ALSO CAN WE FIX CHEMSTYLES SO THEY ACTUAL AR EWPERH SOENTHING AGAIN NOBODY COMPLAINED ABOUT THOSE. Sorry came back for another point but.. You can only focus so much on positioning additional players during an attack, why is it that they can’t even continue tracking back or just retaining a mark. The opponent doesn’t even need to trigger runs they just walk away or the CB will for some reason start running to a flank.

[shy axle]

It’s football when it’s 11 aside with a football and two goalposts mate. Don’t get this crybaby idea that just because there’s more frequent high scoring games it’s not football.

If you want a realistic game play fc25 or pes because realistic means less goals and some goals having a lot of Random chance associated with them.

[shut spruce]

A high scoring game is good when it’s earned w high quality attacking displays, not when you see brain dead defenders who can’t be moved when switched to or constantly run OUT of position abandoning the box or back line without reason. Or goalkeepers failing to animate properly or AT ALL when trying to run out or make a save.

[dusty leaf]

#1431594667828580484

[dusty leaf]

They cry about realism only to love the trivela spam in fc 25

Makes you wonder

[wet eagle]

#1431717397361983579

[shut spruce]

I’m someone who loved the trivela, in real life, I appreciate addition but I do know it was pretty strong over the last few iterations of the game. I will say I think inconsistency in bend for those without trivela should be clear but maybe those with the play style or ps+ would have better efficiency or more extreme amount of curve or a regular basis. Though I’m who’s conscious of the set up touches for a shot and know how to trigger the animation without flair shot, I also just focus on the set up touches as it can catch the keep at an angle that’s advantageous for you

[dusty leaf]

It was still too broken

My point was do you see irl players just spam trivela from 20 meters every game and score every single now

[steady geyser]

It is not fun when you score 5 or 6 goals every match, does not matter if you are winning or losing. FUT is more like hero shooter than football game.

[dusty leaf]

Go play authentic mode on career mode then. Ultimate team isn’t a simulator it’s an arcade

[shut spruce]

Agreed, I’ve had numerous games that keep running near 15 goals. J think I played 3 in a row and there was over 30 goals in total. The goals were getting repetitive too, regardless of setup the animation selected were always similar so it became very bland. I used to see high scoring like that a handful of times if I played FUT Champs or weekend league type deal. Only occasionally in rivals w a crazy opponent or if I was beating up squad battles matches for challenges haha.

[shut spruce]

I agree slightly but the consistency in high scoring games is so bland. The problems is half the goals are results of shoddy defensive gameplay or stupid animations. I liked playing FIFA 3 years ago and being impressed when a game reaches 4-4 not dreading that the gameplay is acting like this and I have to sweat out another goal or two before my defense has another stroke. What’s even worse is when you put in a fresh midfielder or defender and they act more unresponsive or fatigued when they just got on.

[urban hatch]

Talking about Realistic Football, Go Coach a 11 year old Football Team if you want Something realistic Fckn rtrd, ai defending for you is realistic too Right?

[dusty leaf]

He is saying that the patch is bad I’m pretty sure

[lament star]

@crimson tulip this is exactly what I mean, when you have guys that say “the game is good now “ and “I’m in div 6” in the same thread, that’s when you should realise, you FUC*ED up the game, stop catering to 7 win players. They just want ai to do everything for them it’s sad to see

[steady geyser]

Nope, new patch is step is right direction. I wish AI defenders are more agressive.

[lament star]

0/10 rage bait

[plucky nebula]

"i want to play the least amount of actual defense possible while also conceding 0 goals"

Rat

This is like saying "i wish my long range finesse shots would just fly top corner more"

But y'all wont admit it

[shut spruce]

There’s a difference between someone’s sitting back having an AI defender or the second press chase down and win the ball. When I think most people refer to Defensive AI they mean INTELLIGENCE. That means positioning, preserving the back line, tracking marks loosely or retaining them after being manually positioned on them. I often find I manually moved 2-3 defenders in the build up for them to freeze up after or simply just hover. They could be in between the player and the ball and will simply watch it roll over their toes. Or context of input, if I’m sprinting while I press the standing/shoulder tackler should it not be done in stride? Why would anyone want a stomping animation that leaves the defender stationary during a sprint and also just missed the ball and/or attacker if you wanted a professional foul…

[frail monolith]

If EA release a patch that changes attacking, avoid adjusting defending until the next patch - and vice versa. This approach would make it much easier to achieve proper overall balance.
Right now, attacking feels too nerfed, while defending feels overpowered.
For example: let’s say tactical sprint was at a 8 on a balance scale (where 1 = useless and 10 = overpowered). You decide it’s too strong, so you nerf it down to a 3. Meanwhile, jockeying was weak at a 3, so you buff it up to a 8. Now the situation is flipped - jockeying feels overpowered compared to tactical sprint.
If you focused on just one side (say, defending) per patch, you could tune jockeying up to a balanced 7, matching tactical sprint. That way, both systems balance each other naturally instead of constantly overshooting in opposite directions.

[tough willow]

Totally agree. These ridiculous score lines just devalue any sense of achievement of scoring

[shut spruce]

I wouldn’t even mind having high scoring games like this if they were all worthy goals, unfortunately half of them are results of animation slop in the transition or critical moments for tackles/clearances/50-50’s

[plucky nebula]

Right now rebound goals are back

This wastn that much of a problem before the patch

[tough willow]

Yeah I hear ya. Scripted rebounds to the attackers feet, or the keepers getting snow blind at the 45th and 90th minute get on my wick too

[plucky nebula]

Most goals Came from kickoff or short corners.

[shut spruce]

lol never left the game, primarily what I concede is the corner rebounds or normal rebounds. Other than that kickoff/transition where my entire team turns into sleepy senior citizens or the goalkeeper gets caught looking at Medusa

[tough willow]

lol 😂

[plucky nebula]

See now that's just bs, so no goals you concede are actualy your fault?

Be fr

[frail monolith]

The only thing they had to do in this patch, was improve jockey as they did, nerf ko goals and corners.
THATS IT!!! nothing more than that
The game went from a 8/10 to an 2/10

[tough willow]

Other way round akrogh.
From 2/10 to 8/10 more like

[frail monolith]

Are you in div 7?

[steady geyser]

Rebounds, deflections and other random moments are part of football. I hope EA will transform ea fc from arcade to simcade game.

[tough willow]

It’s much better now. Defenders feel like solid people now, not ghosts

[tough willow]

I am indeed. 👍🏼

[frail monolith]

Mate my salah went from feeling like a 90 pace card to a 70 pace card

[shut spruce]

The game I was unable to finish was up 2-0. Then my teams presence became non existent only involved in my attack. Keep in mind I’ve shut him out until the last 10 mins of half 1 and I’ve nearly had 10 chances in this half alone. So then 3-3 then 4-3 and I quit when my player did a 90 degree variance on a slide that should have just been a shot block straight and instead just cleaned out the attackers legs. Meanwhile his keeper had 4 crazy top corners saves, my player got a rebound and muffed the tap in so the keeper dove and poked it away. It was literally slower than a ground pass as a SHOT. I didn’t even play out the pk I just quit I won’t tolerate this gameplay. DYNAMIC DIFFICULTY IS PLAIN AND A PAIN TO SEE

[shut spruce]

Lukie I see you are simple brained, if I say most the goals I concede are from soddy animations does that mean I never concede goals from a counter or being impatient/making mistakes. Never did I say that you just made a rage bait post or you really are simpleton in the chat rn. When the predominant method of conceding is off gameplay instability or the lack of consistency I think it’s game issue. I could manual defend for years bud

[frail monolith]

Now I understand why you say that, this update has slowed the game down so much that high-division players hate it, while lower-division players like you, enjoy it because the slower pace matches your reaction speed. now there is no skill gap anymore

[shut spruce]

They never respected skill gaps, scripting and dynamic difficulty were ushered in and they tried to make us think pay to win wasn’t gonna be a thing after all our complaints year after year

Cause if the gameplay sucks what will a long time player who lives the game do? They hope we pay more to get a shiny better play and as soon as balancing or patches ruin that. Pay more buy more good gameplay until it happens over and over and over

[tough willow]

You’re likely right.
But you just can’t make a game for the top 10% of players. It’s got to appeal to the majority.
I mean, fut champs has now been sliced out for elite(r) players and no doubt there’ll be other comps which us casuals ‘ aren’t wearing the right shoes there mate’

[plucky nebula]

You just sounded like one of those People who caused this patch by not talking accountability for their defending

[tough willow]

So just enjoy.
At least now it’s a game which -can- be enjoyed by all, and doesn’t (at least for now) have games where everyone is playing the same boring META patterns….. again

[shut spruce]

The way to fix this is actually have players reside in divisions relevant to their squad quality and skill level. Not dynamic difficulty, to make it easier for everyone to access.

[shut spruce]

I think you lack reading comprehension bro.

[plucky nebula]

Okay

[plucky nebula]

It can be enjoyed by park the bus rats, all the rest of us don't like it now

[frail monolith]

Mate, just play the game and get good. If you’re facing another Division 7 player, you’re both in the same boat. The so-called ‘elite’ players have just put in the hours, they’ve learned the game, improved, and can handle a faster pace. They don’t want to be forced into the slow gameplay this new patch brought. If you prefer a slower experience, play Authentic mode or head to Career Mode instead.

[shut spruce]

If you see what I’m saying I’m saying reward players for playing well, positioning well, stop allowing scripting slop to overtake the gameplay and allow 💩 players keep up when it’s abundantly clear they don’t know what to do. Stop allowing controlled sprint abuse allow creativity, variance in buildup dribbling allow for chances to be created. I should not have to reluct each game when I grab a lead and expect for the gameplay to plummet in the remainder of the game.

[tough willow]

That’s what I mean though, you can’t adjust the game to cater for the top players, at the expense of the enjoyment of the majority

[plucky nebula]

Is it the majority though? Majority of career mode players yes, majority of UT players no imo

[tough willow]

Maybe. I’m sure only ea know that I guess

[frail monolith]

But that’s the thing. The top players didn’t get there by luck. They learned the game, adapted, and earned it. Slowing everything down to make it easier for the majority destroys the skill gap. If people want a slower pace, there are other modes for that. Don’t ruin the main game for everyone who’s actually put in the time to get good, instead of just a Div 7 player who barely knows what they’re doing, just running with no skills or strategy, mashing buttons.

[shut spruce]

I don’t see why they couldn’t just play squad battles but shouldn’t the lowest division have the lowest quality teams and lowest skill level? Why are there nutty teams in div 9 and why can you find 💩 skating by in div 7 or better. Just balance the divs and throw out dynamic difficulty, it’s like damage balancing in COD for players accessibility. Why don’t you just matchmake them or rank them properly…

[plush garden]

Thanks for the patch.

The game is now slower and more realistic.

As a player, you now have more time to react and can build up play more effectively.

I also have more control when defending and can intervene more effectively.

I can build on this foundation.

Great work, thanks EA!

[shut spruce]

suspiciously bot like response

[frail monolith]

Basic div 10-7 player

[tough willow]

Oops. Sorry. I didnt mean to offend anyone with my mindless button munging.
I’ll get my coat

[shut spruce]

Ever since scripting i’ve gone from a div 6-4 on the grind to just being seeded in 9 or 10 at start and grind up to 6 but it’s the most unrewarding grind because the gameplay is so bunz w the dynamic difficulty over past years. Also the challenges and rewards don’t even pay off for playing some games. So not only are the rewards no longer enjoyable but even the gameplay isn’t enjoyable…

[frail monolith]

Mate your probably also think the gameplay in fc25 was an 10/10

[tough willow]

It was frustrating, and most versions for the last decade have had their own irritations. But, like everyone else, we still buy it, we still play it.
For the first week since launch, I’ve enjoyed playing this version

[shut spruce]

Nah I’ll be honestly I use to abuse the shirt pull and they’ve balance it over recent years but that was a yellow card I was willing to take to slow down counters. I can often see the scripting in the build up you can notice your players lacking the full sprint even with energy and or they got rocked when they properly time tackle in the right spot. The attackers just go unscathed and I honestly have not noticed my player do any shirt pulls this year, I’ve noticed a stomp animation being spammed that’s about it, they also have not fixed the spamming of the spin pass whenever you use flair

[novel kernel]

What's your problem with me?

I wasn't playing the game because I didn't find it fun, not because I couldn't compete.

I'll happily play more once the defensive AI is gone.

[plucky nebula]

More time on the ball?

Lol

[potent hare]

They must live on another planet where the concept of time is different, else I don't get it

[gritty pasture]

I think it is bots. It has to be.

[tall tartan]

Horrible patch

[reef shadow]

Who’s making these bots lol

[ruby rover]

We want revert update, and we ask before update to fix corners and kick off glitch just that , not to make Ai defenders like superman they know every pass i want to play they now have It’s as if they have an aura surrounding them every time I try to make a ground or through pass, they somehow anticipate it and automatically cut off the passing lane. There’s no real skill involved in the game anymore.

And when my striker is ready to receive the pass with the defender behind his back, something strange happens the AI defender magically intercepts the ball from behind. There’s no realism at all; even Van Dijk couldn’t do that in real life.

Now let’s talk about another issue passing. What happened to it? When I try to pass to my right winger, and there’s a teammate between us, I press the pass button with enough power for the long distance yet the game deliberately passes to the closer player instead. This problem didn’t exist before.

Another issue with passing: when my player is next to an opponent and I try to pass to him, my player intentionally passes to the opponent, as if it’s a pre-written scenario “if you play this way, this will happen.”

This design and style of gameplay have made us lose the identity of football. Everything now feels scripted. They don’t give us room to be creative or to invent our own ways to build and score goals the way we imagine them. We play the game for fun, to make imagination feel real, not to follow a fixed scenario written by the company.

Now about attacking it used to be excellent, at its best. Why did you change it? There’s no balance anymore. The gameplay has become too defensive and not fun. Why should I even play? Why did I pay money for a game that turned into something else?

You should bring back the old attacking system and restore the old defending mechanics. The old defense was fun and manual if you mastered it, you could win the ball; if you couldn’t, you didn’t deserve to reach the top divisions.

[wooden kayak]

Its completely trash

EA offer us two gameplay variants, one built for high scoring, arcadey, unrealistic football

Then the other for authentic, slower more realistic lower scoring games

People then play the version that's faster, more unrealistic and complain its too fast and too unrealistic???????

So you make the unrealistic stuff, more realistic and completely slow the pace of the game down

It makes no sense, you should have stood your ground, told people if they want more realism to go play authentic, or even make authentic an option online so people can pick and choose

instead you completely destroy the main selling point of your new, faster gameplay, it makes no sense EA, absolutely none, why even bother creating two variants of gameplay if you're just going to slow the faster version down when people complain that its too fast

And I say this as someone that doesnt fidget spin or spam RB, its just slow and sluggish and i'm probably gonna move on to something else

Its not even been out a month and you've ruined the best game you've put out in a decade, shame

[grave holly]

Mate I absolutely agree to every single point!!! 🥹💜

[ruby rover]

Now it’s not fun anymore RIP FC26

[bronze sluice]

Fr

[plucky wharf]

Great work EA listening to the community and not just the sweats. Good update. A step in the right direction. But pls fix fidget spinners next.
Fidget sppining is still way too op and unrealistic. Defending against that is still impossible as it has been nerfed to the ground.

Now nxt step is finding a way to nerf the fidget spinners so that defenders have a fair n equal opportunity.

Dribbling is still op and the defense is unable to keep up.
Current state only streamers n sweats keep abusing the left stick mechanic and others is interested to play.

[reef shadow]

Bot

[novel kernel]

I've just been reporting it

[potent hare]

Absolute bot dude wtf

[north ingot]

I think there is a misconception in this community about the scorelines.
Most goals pre Patch were the result of kick offs and counters, not because of people Dribbling. High Div games without those glitches were pretty low scoring.
The game now basically killed posession play because you can't turn fast enough to play the next pass, since the AI is always bullying you. The game also is inconsistent ,which makes it all even worse. Fut was built on a realistic base, but was always arcade from Fifa 09 to Fifa 19, which created huge skill gaps. Too much realism in combination with so much ai defense just destroys the fun for me and many others.
I got the same wins as the last two weeks 11-12, and the game bored me out so badly.

Like the game is one dimensional now. People are even hating skillers now on X because it's "unrealistic". How far does this have to go

My first point also shows in the social interactions of this game. Back in the Arcady times YT content sometimes had 800-900k views for some creators. Now Neps videos are at 10% of it

[hard flame]

Why wouldn't you slow it down?! 🤷

[inner coral]

Couldn’t have said it better

[plush nebula]

Spot on, completely agree, I’m struggling to create chances now if any at all, playing through the middle is so difficult now because of the ai which they conveniently missed out the patch, the ai has been updated big time because I seem to never have any options now, can’t skip round defenders now or barely can, attacking has been nerfed to the ground and defensive buffed to the sky, typical from ea nerfing something that didn’t need to be nerfed.

I have played 3 champs game so far and already don’t want to play anymore. Well done @crimson tulip

[north ingot]

People also still wiggle around with their left stick, because it's the only option left now besides counters to create gaps. Its bad.

[plush nebula]

Yep the only way I score is literally that. No more fun buildup and TikTaka plays. It’s the same as 25 just play on the edge of the box then give it to a striker and left stick…. Great game, so static so boring, so uncreative

[north ingot]

People also try to find new glitches now, like rainbow bicycle kicks, because the defensive AI is so strong it's absolutely more rewarding to resort to glitches again

[plush nebula]

Yep job well done from ea

As usual ruin any prospect of hope for fc, need to bring back their old team because the game is more static than a graveyard

[potent hare]

Irks me so much man, I've been a skiller since FIFA 14
Insane how they demonize the skill gap, because skill moves are the goddamn skill gap
I can't even count how many times I did an elastico at the right time only to be closed by the cpu afterwards, or a three touch spin or the whatever smh

Exactly they think it's realistic now but it's the same fidget spinning as before, just with more cpu

The attacking runs are still awfully bad

Insane how I have to resort to player lock cuz else the st stays still

[flint mica]

Left stick op? You mean the thing they promoted in their trailer? Are you aware that this is the first fifa/fc since forever where you can actually dribble only with smart left stick movement and not do the mortal combat supercancel spin moves? What’s wrong with this community

[candid goblet]

This game is now Fkd! Players controlling one player and then you cannot break down the defensive AI and when you do the defenders just jockey to catch you up. Gameplay is so slow and broken. EA had such a great game and then they go and fk it up. Congratulations to the all the little timmies who have to complain and ruin a completely fine game. I now have to unlearn everything I have learned and learn the new meta to play/win a game. Absolutely Unbelievable. Been away from this game for 5 years for EA to make broken promises. GAME HAS GONE. @uncut epoch @uncut epoch SORT IT!

[novel kernel]

They have to nerf the defensive AI, then we'll know if dribbling needs to be patched or not

[candid goblet]

Just literally revert the patch

There was no problems with the game other than kick off and corners

Spent hours learning how to manual defend, and how to do skill moves and which dribbling style to use and which shot to use

But now all that has gone

@crimson tulip SORT IT

[hazy epoch]

? Do you realise Jockey was buffed just to make defending dribbling 1v1 fair? If EA leave it like this Jockey will now be like dribbling (before patch), overpowered and you can't get past defenders on the 1v1.

the overall feel of feeling has nothing to do with AI Defending

[candid goblet]

Yeah the game is so imbalanced, it is actually terrible

[brisk abyss]

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[novel kernel]

The jockey was buffed because of the left stick. It has absolutely nothing to do with controlled sprint. Controlled sprint was nerfed because it was faster than it was intended to be and that's straight from the gamplay designers own mouth.

Beating manual players is still possible. The problem is the defensive AI wasn't nerfed. If it was reverted to early access then attacking wouldn't feel so horrible.

If the dribbling still feels overpowered when the AI gets nerfed then the developers should absolutely look into making it better but right now it makes no logical sense to just give back R1 without addressing the actual problem that you all want r1 to deal with.

[grand rover]

realistically what was the issue with the game pre patch? corners and kickoff only no? why even decide to make changes to dribbling and defending in the first place

[brisk abyss]

preach bro

spread the word

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[grand rover]

u think they revert it? dont really know whole lot about ea and if they listen to feedback or not, how likely is it for them to change it

[novel kernel]

Pre patch the game was alright but manual defending needed to be buffed and the AI needed to be nerfed.

R1 was overused and way more effective than any other mechanic on attack. That wasn't their intention and the lead designer in charge of dribbling said so himself during the stream they did discussing the changes.

Now what we're left with is a slower, more difficult version of dribbling that can still be done quickly if you know what you're doing. The only problem is the AI is just as effective as it was before and needs to be nerfed back to what it was during early access. If the attacking side of the game needs a slight buff after that then I'll have no problems with that.

But back peddling because one version was more enjoyable isn't the way to go.

Unfortunately it seems we have payed to be play testers. We might as well act like it and try to put the game in a balanced and competitive state.

Before was good. But this has more potential without the AI.

[candid goblet]

well they listened to the players about something, that the majority of players did not think was an issue. They buff defending and nerf attacking and just creates a massive imbalance in the game.

[candid goblet]

They had made a game for the players, a competitive, fast-paced and skilled game. I enjoyed learning the game making my way to div 3. But now I have to unlearn everything to be able to have a chance at winning a game. The game now just consists of players controlling one player, mainly the cdm, and let the defensive AI defend which is impossible to break down. Passes now are so bad and slow. They made a patch for something that the majority of players did not think was an issue. At first I was bad at the game could not get out of div 7, but then I learned the defending and attacking of the game. Why others couldn't do that? Because they want EA to put it on a plate for them. Simply @uncut epoch just revert the patch and let the majority of your players play the game they paid for.

[timid orbit]

This game is awful now, boring and unplayable, if you have dda against you scoring a goal that isn't a low iq low skill cut back is near on impossible @crimson tulip FIX UP

[novel kernel]

There's nothing you have to unlearn. Just don't rely on r1 which was the only thing nerfed.

The defensive AI being left alone is the reason attacking feels too difficult.

[candid goblet]

You cannot manual defend anymore because when you do you get punished, as all players do now is control their cdm and let the AI defend for them, so you cannot break it down. And I never relied on the R1 dribbling, I learned to use it in situations where I can do a controlled dribble into space to then pass it off or perhaps a shot at goal

[grand rover]

them nerfing R1 is not a problem for me, yeah i used it here and there but i wasnt winning games just because of it, the problem post patch is the fact that everything just feels sluggish, a normal pass to my striker is immediately taken by my opponent because the players can hardly control the ball or take an okay first touch.

[novel kernel]

If the defensive AI was not so overpowered then the sluggish feel wouldn't matter.

But if attacking needed an adjustment after that then it should rightfully get one.

[candid goblet]

Passing is terrible in todays gameplay. Pace is broken my 94 pace +anchor frimpong being outpaced by 87 pace ansu fati make it make sense

[brisk abyss]

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[ripe light]

I feel like after the patch, ea didn’t just buff jockeying and nerf dribbling, but AI defending got stronger again too. Please patch it and let players develop the skill of manual defending!

[reef shadow]

Bad work EA listening to the community and not just the sweats. Bad update. A step in the wrong direction. But pls fix AI defending next.

AI defending is still way too op and unrealistic. Attacking against that is still impossible as it has been nerfed to the ground.

Now nxt step is finding a way to boost r1 and LS so that attackers have a fair n equal opportunity.

Defending is still op and the attack is unable to keep up.
Current state only AI timmies n losers who can’t defend R1 keep abusing the second man press and others is interested to play.

[plucky wharf]

Great work EA listening to the community and not just the sweats. Good update. A step in the right direction. But pls fix fidget spinners next.
Fidget sppining is still way too op and unrealistic. Defending against that is still impossible as it has been nerfed to the ground. Now nxt step is finding a way to nerf the fidget spinners so that defenders have a fair n equal opportunity.

Dribbling is still op and the defense is unable to keep up.
Current state only streamers n sweats keep abusing the left stick mechanic and others is interested to play.

[reef shadow]

Bad work EA listening to the community and not just the sweats. Bad update. A step in the wrong direction. But pls fix AI defending next. AI defending is still way too op and unrealistic. Attacking against that is still impossible as it has been nerfed to the ground. Now nxt step is finding a way to boost r1 and LS so that attackers have a fair n equal opportunity.

Defending is still op and the attack is unable to keep up.
Current state only AI timmies n losers who can’t defend R1 keep abusing the second man press and others is interested to play.

[reef shadow]

Bad work EA listening to the community and not just the sweats. Bad update. A step in the wrong direction. But pls fix AI defending next. AI defending is still way too op and unrealistic. Attacking against that is still impossible as it has been nerfed to the ground. Now nxt step is finding a way to boost r1 and LS so that attackers have a fair n equal opportunity.

Defending is still op and the attack is unable to keep up.
Current state only AI timmies n losers who can’t defend R1 keep abusing the second man press and others is interested to play.

[plucky wharf]

Great work EA listening to the community and not just the sweats. Good update. A step in the right direction. But pls fix fidget spinners next.
Fidget sppining is still way too op and unrealistic. Defending against that is still impossible as it has been nerfed to the ground. Now nxt step is finding a way to nerf the fidget spinners so that defenders have a fair n equal opportunity.

Dribbling is still op and the defense is unable to keep up.
Current state only streamers n sweats keep abusing the left stick mechanic and others is interested to play.

[inner coral]

Hahhahahahhahahahha

Great work EA listening to the community and not just the sweats. Good update. A step in the right direction. But pls fix fidget spinners next.
Fidget sppining is still way too op and unrealistic. Defending against that is still impossible as it has been nerfed to the ground. Now nxt step is finding a way to nerf the fidget spinners so that defenders have a fair n equal opportunity.

Dribbling is still op and the defense is unable to keep up.
Current state only streamers n sweats keep abusing the left stick mechanic and others is interested to play.