#Stop babying/catering to garbage players

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buoyant relic
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Almost every year you release a "patch" that changes gameplay to cater to idiotically terrible players because they happen to be the majority of the community, FC 26 was the first game with core gameplay that is closer to actual football and had skill gap that required ball knowledge but guess what, majority of the community cried because the game was too hard for them and you don't want to lose money from these bad players who give you the most money (because we know what you are EA)
It's not just about Manual defending, AI or fidget spinning, it somehow worse.

Those bad players with no personality or understanding of football keep being rewarded for copying tactics from "pro players" and rely on exploits to win, it's bad but the lack of manual decision making such as lack of MANUAL DEFENDING makes it worse and make those bad players get away with it because you can't punish them for their mistakes as long you (EA devs) keep catering to them (we know why).
The issue is that I did find what kind of exploits they are doing and once I figured it out and it exposed how actually terrible those players are, without these exploits they won't be able to play because they are soulless , and I'm not sharing what kind of exploits it is because many of said bad players are here in the server.

I'm writing this for the reason that you MUST sort this garbage out and remove these exploits that kills the game, idiotic players should never being rewarded for idiotic game play that should never take a place, I have an idea but you won't really listen.

And do us a favor, listen to the community and revert the game to version 1.0.2 or whatever it was where manual decisions and manual defending actually mattered.

queen hatch
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Absolutely agree it should be reverted to when the game first game out, it was fun then, realistic and actually took skill.

buoyant relic
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Yeah and the only ones who are happy with the current state of the game are rats, and if I had enough EA will warn me or time out me for "being toxic".

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That's your fault you and if you care about good gameplay you wouldn't need to patch the game at all but EA devs bended over to rats and Timmies as always.

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I had enough

low tinsel
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If it's the same or worse after the upcoming patch I might try fighting for my money back.

It feels like a waste of time to play. I had an opponent today who never came for the ball once, used a 451 with all of his players sitting back while he cut passing lanes with one player and used AI for the rest.

I gave up after 3 - 3 and decided to juggle the ball for the rest of the second half and he never tried to get it back once.

I'm not going to willingly play into someone's low block just to defend counters the entire time and he clearly wasn't ready to play the game any other way.

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Devs cooked with 1.0.2 and 1.0.3.

tawny sluice
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100 percent agreed, I have the idea that those clueless devs of EA are enjoying this in a sadistic manner let's make this toxic community and create mechanics to be exploited to get the worse out of people and laugh and you know what is worse they get money for it. I have so much anger towards these devs and this company but we are helpless i hope that someday someone can bring them to court and sue them

buoyant relic
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@glass night If you don't nerf AI defending to the ground and buff Manual defending like crazy then you are not listening to your community but shilling to rats like a spineless coward,,, I DONT CARE how long it will take do it asap and move or I will cancel my EA Play Pro next month (because I want to try BF6 and Skate 4).

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I sound toxic because your bs made me so instead of actually caring about the game, I'm struggling with intrusive thoughts and you mfs make it worse.

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Don't make me wish the most ill on you please.

uncut shadow
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Custom tactics ?

buoyant relic
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Yeah, I found custom tactics that are broken but honestly that is so stupid.

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Like it's not a skill gap if a "broken tactic" can give you advantage in games.

uncut shadow
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I understand with the scripting cuz I'm not a bad player but the scripting is amazing to my eyes

buoyant relic
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Scripting affects everyone whether you win or you lose

uncut shadow
buoyant relic
uncut shadow
uncut shadow
buoyant relic
uncut shadow
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I don't spend money on fifa anymore cuz Whats the point if a new one comes out every year but the scripting for me is what makes me stop playing the game

buoyant relic
buoyant relic
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What an end to this WL EA.... Hacker.

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You will never address hackers, will you?

supple isle
# buoyant relic Almost every year you release a "patch" that changes gameplay to cater to idioti...

Look I agree with everything you said bar one thing

What do you mean the core gameplay was realistic?
Even the first version was gathered to players who are good with the left stick
Defending wise it was more manual and there was less cpu surely, but the gameplay was still extremely fast and totally assisted and the attacking runs were still mediocre at best

I have not the slightest idea what you mean by "realistic" it was a goal fest before too with the most unrealistic football ever played, the 1.0.2 had issues too with defending, it would be wrong to say otherwise, there was still a huge imbalance in attack vs defense, they tried to fix it but failed.

They keep catering to the new gen making an excessively fast gameplay that has nothing of football and with the update we got AI defending back as well as rebounds
The issue here is how assisted and fast the gameplay is, not even having time to think in a FOOTBALL game, shouldn't e a thing.

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This game wasn't realistic before and its even less now

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I'm not gonna advocate for realism as I prefer responsiveness, but it's undeniable that we need a balance

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This is an excessively fast arcadey mess

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I hate not finding differences between players.
Messi feels like any other small player, this is simply unacceptable

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For me the core lays in this terrible engine that is Hypermotion, first it introduced acceleRATE which is and was always trash, making players slide on the pitch based on their running style

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Then it introduced tons of useless, glitched animations which made everything less responsive

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They tried to fix it with 26 and succeded but failed to find a balance in the gameplay

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Not like I'm surprised.
1.0.2 wasn't fine either, stop pretending that
Attacking VS defense was still terribly unbalanced, surely it was better than this cpu mess but still, I would revert to 1.0.2 and work from there

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Imo in a competitive football game the settings should be either semi or full manual, the pace of the game should be slower but the game should keep being responsive

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It's useless to say so but they simply won't do that because we aren't the audience that makes them money

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Although I always requested only one thing that could easily be done
And that is putting the authentic mode online too.
People should have the right to choose which gameplay they want without being excluded from the game modes

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Ofc not only authentic
Authentic with realistic sliders and full manual or semi
That's a competitive experience where you can see the differences from players, not this overly assisted fast paced mess

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That would also put everything back on the menu, from headers to longshots

buoyant relic
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It was the manual defending that was a game changer, you could still bully fidget spinner until they made it all AI

buoyant relic
buoyant relic
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It was "fine" compared to other FC games and considering the low standards for this game

supple isle
buoyant relic
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I agree tho that people should be able to pick and that's what I expected in the beginning

supple isle
frank ocean
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That’s exactly the point. At least during the first week, the game was fun — tough, but fun. With manual defending, when people lost, they understood it was because of their own mistakes, not because of some ultra-defensive setup backed by CPU assistance. Honestly, in less than a month they managed to ruin everything they got right. Now there are way too many loose balls, defending relies entirely on AI help, and goalkeepers are back to pushing shots straight into danger. They were getting a lot of well-deserved praise, but with every update, it feels like they’re trying to please the players who don’t want to actually improve.

shell relic
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💯% agreed

The defending has been nerfed to the ground. Please make defending equally powerful compared to attackers.

Game has just become an unrealistic goal fest for skill and pace abusers as defending has been severely nerfed

Only sweats are playing the game now as they continuously abuse the right stick. No casuals want to play this fidget spinner unless defending is fixed

supple isle
steady nova
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100% true but sadly they will never fix. They only care about the $$ I wish I could accept this and stop playing

buoyant relic
noble island
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Good argument here. Valid points.
It’s a deep game and there’s lots needed to make it enjoyable again. But surely to god the key ones are;

  1. Absolutely cretinous goalkeepers. Ridiculous scorelines devalue any sense of achievement in scoring or winning.

  2. Defending nerfed too hard. Far too often attackers just slip past like they’re covered in oil. I wouldn’t mind quite so much if there was even a half way where attackers get pushed/bumped with contact that at least provides potential to lose the ball.

  3. The Front end/UI is written by incompetent imbeciles in Visual Basic. Slow, cumbersome, and hasn’t felt tactile for years. Start it again

  4. METAs need quashing. You should have the same potential to score from lots of methods. As soon as something feels exploitable it needs addressing by devs. Low driven shots from 10 yards diagonally, for example (I lost 13-5 this week with my opponent getting 11 of their goals this way, and the other two with scripted rebounds landing perfectly back at their attackers feet)

This all makes for a poor experience of misery, and exactly the kind of game I wouldn’t dream of investing in some pack gambles. No way.

opaque glade
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+1

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Who is to say that if you make the game really skill based then it won't be liked by the masses ?
Think of biggest games of the world like Counter Strike, Valorant , League , Chess, Rocket League etc . Not to mention every sport in the world !!

supple isle
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I mean

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If you publicize a gamemode to be competitive then it must be skill based

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This we have rn is garbage

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The core itself as Zura said is great and makes for actual skill but there's too many exploits which kills the purpose

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As of rn the most RIDICOLOUS exploit is the rainbow + bicycle kick

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Which was a thing back on old gen

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INSANE how it's back on next gen

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I also want to say the reason you can make these goals is cuz everything is assisted

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Cuz with precision settings you can't do that.

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So yea the skill gap is the lowest ever probably.
So many exploits, everything is assisted

supple isle
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Pls comment on my latest feedback labeled "GAMEBREAKING EXPLOIT"

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This is urgent and must be patched asap

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Make them see

low tinsel
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To have any of what has been said here addressed in the upcoming patch notes would be incredible.

The community needs more direct communication if we're all going to be used as playtesters.

supple isle
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lusty panther
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now its going to be even worse, i dont mind manually defending buffing, but they didnt mention or touch anything about AI defending, so now ppl will have better control on their ST's and CDM's but still let the AI defend for them :/ im afraid for darker times.

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supple isle
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It's so over man, it'll be FC25 again...

mellow hatch
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EA please listen to this thread and not timmies please. Jockey speed increase is good to reward manual defending so keep that change and revert to the original state

opaque glade
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Better Jockey is a great start . But make manual pressing rewarding too so drop back and defend with CDMs isnt encouraged . Also it may allow us to deal better with the possession rats .

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opaque glade
buoyant relic
shell relic
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💯% agreed.

This is a step in the right direction. Good update. But EA please fix fidget spinners next.

However the fidget sppining is still way too op and unrealistic. Defending against that is still impossible as defending has been nerfed to the ground.

The next step is finding a way to nerf the fidget spinners so that defenders have a fair and equal opportunity.

The dribbling is still op responsive and the jockey is unable to keep up.
In this current state only streamers and pros keep abusing the left stick mechanic and nobody else is interested to play.

opaque glade
shell relic
supple salmon
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clever birch
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all the players who enjoy this patch are the ones who holds their cdm s all game and let the ai defening and r1 press to the job

tawny sluice
supple salmon
clever birch
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yeah but the dribling was better so… you do the math

tawny sluice
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Dribbling was never fidget spinning stoping then technical in circles then sheiding then circles then stop then circles please check what dribbling is first, nr 2 also the attack was extremely OP the through passes were all prime de bruyne, nr 3 football is all about building up and if u are a football player and enjoy it for real you would enjoy the build up. The problem is that EA made people think they know football

clever birch
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yeah the noobs now think that they are good because of the gameplay circumstances

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the skill gap is minimum unfortunately

tawny sluice
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Typical 🐭 reply

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Skill gap

clever birch
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i knew that you were good at fc25 i am right?

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park the bus simulator?

tawny sluice
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Bro all your through passes were assisted

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All your quote on quote dribbling was op

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And u talk about skill gap

clever birch
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man i just want the defending to be manual thats all

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i know that you are atletico madrid style of defending by the way you are mad

supple salmon
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Ngl, I feel like I get punished for only using my actual back line to defend

clever birch
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just keep hold your cdm s with r1 press ok?

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and enjoy your game

clever birch
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only use your cdm s because that is the only thing community wanted

supple salmon
clever birch
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the first week was magical now i can t even think to play ultimate team

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is horrendous

shell relic
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Still left stick is op but hope ea fix that next

tawny sluice
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Again was it before the patch manual defending?????

clever birch
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yeah exactly what i was talking about ai defending rats

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they are coming after me😂

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enjoy your park the bus simulator

supple salmon
clever birch
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exactly

tawny sluice
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Broooo wake up before the patch it was park the bus counter

supple salmon
tawny sluice
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It was bro don't lie to yourself

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You were just feeling good because u felt like de bruyne doing this assisted throug passes

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And rotating in circles

supple salmon
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Oh the rotating that I didn't do

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And the through balls that I had the vision to see so I played them and they went through, cause they were a good option

tawny sluice
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What vision broooooo it is super assisted it is extremely assisted

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And still is btw only now players can intercept it like logical

supple salmon
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If i see the option and I play the ball, that is vision

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If I see a good option and play it, I shouldn't have an AI intercept the pass for my opponent all the time

tawny sluice
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Football is creating the option then passing before it even happens

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Now you go play football and build up and create options

supple salmon
tawny sluice
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And an advice don't watch rats guides like team Gullit and those whom they call themselves pros

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Fifa for the last 10 years was horrible

supple salmon
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I run tactics that I like

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With some random recommendations from my mates that I've tried and liked

mellow hatch
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got it

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then last year u suddenly became good

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and now u think build up is rewarding while ai carries u

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got it

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cheers for letting us know

buoyant relic
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Because of Timmies copying tactics from youtube and being rewarded for CDM haramball counter instead of playing actual football.

tawny sluice
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Pogba mr long legs and intercept no through passes gonna through, cry more 😂😂😂

supple salmon
tawny sluice
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U say i control only cdm so i have to move him myself to intercept

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U see now u rats are brain dead

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But i love all ur crying

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It is really like Beethoven to my ears

fresh inlet
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THANK YOU. So many people the last few years were getting rank 1s by glitch skill cancelling their way to goal and not dribbling, mainly because left stick and R1 absolutely sucked. Couple that with defensive ai being ridiculously overpowered we’ve played nothing but a park the bus simulator since fifa 22.

This year they got it right, dribbling felt good again, R1 was brilliant and people had to defend manually. I’m a former top 200 player and even in elite division pre patch, the only goals I’d concede were from kickoffs or corners. My manual defending was fine, because I learned how to do it over years of playing fifa.

And what do they do, they listen to the timmies who can’t defend properly and miss their park the bus simulator. Absolutely insane community man

charred geyser
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Unfortunately just think wise atp. The ea weaklings also listen with the same mindset. We already saw the biggest downfall of ea football last year. We know the issue so if they want to keep going with that the game will fully die this year

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no need to try and explain to these ground level IQ people

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Not worth the waste when they just say fidgetspinner like a monkey see monkey do typa activity😭

supple isle
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Lol they made a poll ab r1

upbeat pecan
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Agreed

manic copper
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so many cry babys

supple isle
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Genuinely who are the 10 voting for "it's overpowered"

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Lol

sinful wren
supple isle
low tinsel
steady nova
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+1