DEFENDING IS SO AUTOMATIC

[hexed idol]

Nerf R1 defending and much more its so easy to defend you dont get penalize if you spam tackle cuz you have 70 players in the box and much more

For example inside the box all you can do is move like a fidget spinner bc if you pass you get tackled cuz the 1st touches r terrible and its just so easy to defend if you acc have fingers

There was skill gap in the first week not anymore

[potent ibex]

Yep everyone’s figured out try to switch to your cbs as little as possible. Painful

[rocky sky]

Agreed.. when you get to your opponent box, there's already 8 players inside the box making a impenetrable wall, defensive gameplay was awsome the first week before the first gameplay patch.. now it's already getting to much AI assistance and it's getting ruined, taking the fun of the game, ONCE AGAIN. IF they keep doing it, they will RUIN the BEST game in years, the most fun gameplay they made in SEVERAL YEARS. Why they keep doing this when they know 90% of the community was praising the fun gameplay, the more manually focused defensive gameplay that makes the game fun, that brings creativity and variety to the way we can create goal chances and more different types of plays, instead of spinning in front of the opponent BOX filled with 10 players defending ? EA, you will RUIN the best game you made in 10 YEARS

[potent ibex]

I don’t think they changed anything from the first week, it’s just that people figured out that ai defending is overpowered and use manual defending as little as possible, the rest of the game is quite fun, I just wish people actually took control of their cbs so you could actually pass/dribble round them otherwise the ai just sticks to you and doesn’t let you past.

[rocky sky]

But that's what I'm saying, the first week of Early Access, from Ultimate Edition, you could easily dribble the CB's controlled by AI when your opponent just controlled their CDM's. You could easily punished those type of players, you could make through passing while your opponent was controlling their CDM's, because the CB's when left to be controlled by AI, were very weak and you could easily dribble and pass the ball past them.. they couldn't track manual creative runs, and now they can do it easily, CB's defensive AI was BUFFED for shure

[potent ibex]

It’s not in either of the patch notes

[hexed idol]

Bro its a shadow patch

The defenders AI interecept automatic now

[potent ibex]

There’s no actual proof they exist

[hexed idol]

Bro play the game and see

[potent ibex]

If you actually read what I said I agreed that defence ai is completely overpowered but it always was. It’s the the player base that have now realised this and now never switch to their defenders so it feels more overpowered not some bs conspiracy shadow patch

[hexed idol]

Ask anyone who PLAYEd in the first week its obvious that the triangle passes were nerfed and that means defending was buffed cuz you no longer have to track the runs cuz the defender Will intercept the ball not matter What

Simple math dude stop being ignorant

You either do first time through balls to a L1 run or you have no breakthroughs and this is What people call a good game

[potent ibex]

People are allowed an opinion mate, it’s not ignorance. If you want to believe in some secret patch you do that, I’ll believe in things we can actually prove.

[hexed idol]

Ask anyone dude triangle passes dont work anymore 😂

Im not delu

You can probably see that in your gameplay everytime you try to do a risky but doable triangle pass you fail

[potent ibex]

Yes because people have changed how they defend from the first week( they ai defend instead of dragging their cbs out which makes triangle passes easier) not some make believe patch. Ive said so many times that I agree with you ai defending is too good and seems better than the first week but I just don’t agree that there was some secret patch.

[hexed idol]

In the first parch they talked about Improving ground passes

But it did not

So yes they changed something

[potent ibex]

This is painful, your whole point was about some secret patch on defensive ai not ground passes

[hexed idol]

Nerfing passes affects defending

[glacial turret]

Yeah no one is using defenders now. AI is just to good. This company will never learn like never. I would like to say bunch a bad words to this company its just wont help. They just keep doign things to break the game. Why would a company want the AI to play for you? Like what do you want to achive with that? Its a game for people to play not the AI. How can you make a game where you dont have to select your defenders to defend. Yesterday I played 3 people and none of them used CBs to defend. Its just selecting a player like a ST and let the AI do the rest.

[hexed idol]

Im telling you the state of the not using CB meta is so much worse than EA FC 25

Plus second man press is OP too

[glacial turret]

@hexed idol Yeah bro much worse. FC 25 was miles better then this garbage atm. In 25 I could dominate everyone who did this but now its just unplayble. Its horrible

[glacial turret]

Yeah this is the main reason. They need to nerf this to the ground

[hexed idol]

I think bc the first week was so good

People are riding the hype

But this game is not it

They talked about fixing rebounds Yeah no they didnt

Passes are terrible unless its the first time passes ratty stuff FROM LAST YEAR

Corners have like 3 or 4 meta plays

Attacking diversity is at a all time low in high divs

[potent ibex]

It’s the same game as the first week, it’s just people have figured out the broken ratty ways to play

[hexed idol]

You dont get my point you already know that I stick to the opinion that they Indeed nerfed ground passes , what im saying is the first week was good not bc the game was different but bc nobody knew how to defend

[potent ibex]

Oh my god. That was my opinion that the game is different now because nobody knew how to defend in the first week, your opinion was that there was some secret patch. I can’t believe what I’m seeing.

[hexed idol]

What I was to trying to say is that they nerfed Passing only that idk if it was on purpose or not but its different

The players have no awareness of the space they have to play the pass

They pass it to the aura of the defender

[hexed idol]

They might call me Crazy but i was having more “fun” playing EA fc 25 in august than this EA fc

[potent ibex]

Mate passing is a whole other topic, this whole conversation was about you saying there was some secret patch on defensive ai and I replied with saying that there wasn’t it’s just people have started to rely on the ai more. This was never about some patch to ground passing

[hexed idol]

Improved Ground Pass accuracy, particularly for difficult first-time passes from extreme angles.

im not saying there was a direct nerf in the patch but they changed something they shouldnt

mate i freaking played the game and got into div 4 in 2 days there was already people who didnt drag their cbs around the map

[glacial turret]

Yeah cause everyone on YT is promoting that. This moron streamers are killing the game. They say to people to use the CDMs and let the AI defend. And thast what you get now everyone is doing that.

[hexed idol]

and be fr you know EA the code is all over the place they change something and it breaks another

[hexed idol]

RTFM I give him 1 month

[potent ibex]

Exactly so there was no secret patch or anything it’s just people changing the way they play because of streamers etc telling people to play in a certain way

[hexed idol]

but im not sayin thats not true its just when in the first week u sat there holding your DMs every single ground through ball was breaking your defence in half go watch gameplay from the first week

game was too difficult to defend they had to stop it

[potent ibex]

This is what you said earlier ‘bro it’s a shadow patch’

[hexed idol]

i got ahead of myself there

[potent ibex]

Finally, thank you

[hexed idol]

but I stick to my opinion that they changed the passing

[potent ibex]

That’s not an opinion that’s a fact, it was literally in the first patch notes but we were talking about a defensive ai shadow patch hence the title of the thread

[fallow sapphire]

There is no reason for this shadow patch. EA you need to stop protecting bad players with overpowered AI defending. The skill gap in defending is gone because of the amount of AI assistance. It is just a counter attack game .. that is really boring and unfair.

[wicked wadi]

yeah after champs everyone is gonna finally realise what ive been saying from day. This is the worst fifa they have ever made. Ai defending is the worst its ever been and the fidget spinning braindead attack is get rewarded. Any pro or youtuber still glazing this game has clearly been paid off

[tropic plume]

The defending is worse EA. You already nerfed the defending in fc 26 and made it unplayable for people who want a balanced game.

Now the defending seems to be even worse with pace and skill abusers making the defenders look silly.

Please make the defending equally powerful as attacking so that defenders can barge the fidget spinners and skill abusers off the ball

[chilly hound]

I agree but the reality is the "bad players" are the majority of this community/payers (including players who don't use social media) and you can see it even on this discord, If EA made this game pure skill based football video game, the Timmies who are the loud majority of this game will quit because "they" can't (let AI) defend and always lose...
EA need to make money as a business and we know EA's relationship with money, they ofc they don't want to alienate their most profitable demographic.

[exotic hemlock]

The defense is horrible

This is why they got EA got sold

[warped sage]

I think it's the defensive approaches being too overpowered. Using aggressive and deep have an almost unmanageable amount of assistance compared to when using just high or balanced.

I don't see why everyone can't be forced to play balanced and only change the line height and not how the AI reacts or positions themselves, we have the player roles for that.

Saying that I also feel as if counter applies a certain impetus on the players that are sent on runs and makes it more difficult to lose possession of the ball when challenged.

I think this tactical system is horrible and shouldn't return for the next installment.

[exotic hemlock]

Idc about the next game I need it fixed now i didn’t spend a lot of money buying this game to be getting torched by 10 goals it’s one when some does a skill move and gets by but the defense can’t stop 1 person the game doesn’t matter