Autokick-system is overly aggressive

[indigo haven]

Summary
This update implemented a system that automatically kicks players who didnt contribute to the boss, but the way to the boss can be blocked by a death orb if team members (accidentally or intentionally) start the boss early. Kicking the player in question consumes their blessing while denying them quest progress and loot. I believe the combination of these two features (autokick and death orbs) has a significant, unintended negative impact on gameplay.

When
Since this update.

Where
Chunka Frost Cavern, but the issue applies to any boss which features death orbs. (if I remember correctly the death orbs were added with the previous major patch.)

Additional Details
NA

Evidence

It has already caused issues to two players in one blue train. Really obnoxious change.

[dawn lichen]

omg...how was this not even considered?! way too punishing!

alternative solution if you're on the tail end of this terribly implemented design, quit before the boss dies. at least until they fix this.

[unborn cypress]

what actually happened? someone afked in a blue dungeon and got kicked while still ONLINE?

or kicked cause party afk waiting someone to come in?

[indigo haven]

Got killed by the death orb because someone started too early, then couldnt reach the boss (because of the death orb). The system automatically kicks like right when the boss is about to be defeated.

[unborn cypress]

ah cause bein afk at entrance no combat. cause of orb

[indigo haven]

Not at the entrance, at the corridor where you have to break the frost prisons

[unborn cypress]

[dark plover]

Hello! We'll let the devs know regarding this issue

[unborn cypress]

I mean if

• you're waiting at last boss for recruiting last member or waiting recruited ones to join the party.
• if you die and can not join the ongoing battle due to orb or firewall.
• if you die and can no resurrect while the fight is still on until it ends.
  if in any of these situations the auto kick is triggered. that's too aggressive towards players

[dawn lichen]

in the case of CFC as well, because it has the purple insta kill aoe's while the boss can't take damage, dying to them and not attacking the boss before it dies would also be liable to a kick and loss of blessing. Sounds way too aggressive for something that could commonly happen.

[unreal marsh]

The system is good idea, always the players making it bad. It's better to let it like this than taking it out. There are more slackers than accidents unfortunately

[sly relic]

I wonder if rejoining after disconnecting also triggers this? And I see a lot of trolling potential here - inviting people right before boss dies, to waste their blessing.

[slender viper]

yep this exactly happened in my lobby last night. friend lost 13 blessings from yeti and got kicked from party because he joined late and couldnt hit boss due to fire 🤡

[unborn cypress]

there are more innocents that take the hit than the "slackers". system should be taken down until all tests have been done. and perfectly balanced. the idea is GOOD i agree but the application of it is BAD.

[ashen tusk]

I really wonder what they are combatting with this and if its worth the effort on EU/NA

[sly relic]

Effort? Eh? They just copy paste bot prevention mechanics from KR 1:1. Zero effort actually. Taking the fact that we have almost no bots here into consideration would take much more effort from ncs.

[fresh silo]

i love being kicked from the party and losing 8 bless bc nobody would reset after i died outside boss room

[austere tree]

The system is bad as it is now. Just remember that if you die, try and die in the boss zone and don't press 4. Do not release cause you might get kicked like that. (I know you dying outside of the boss zone might have not been your fault)

[runic hound]

I do not know if this is a bug or not. I took some friends to CS on my main (I had no blessing). Everyone was in the fight, no afk's, no floor povs. As he died, every single person got kicked out and said they did not contribute. Oddly, I was the only person able to turn in their MW quest after. So my friends lost their bless (sad) and loot because I went to help them? No one was afk. All contributed to the fight. All were kicked out, stripped of their bless, and unable to loot or turn in their Purple MW quest. Is this intended? I can't help people?? We just did Pigsty before without any issue.

[runic hound]

Oh thank goodness I felt freaking awful and so confused

[indigo haven]

(Waiting to be able to respond...) yeah its not a fun system... ive not heard of that specific issue happening anywhere other than cold storage.

[cursive prairie]

Can i use this great system intentionally , so i can kick player before the last boss , some dungeons like nexus take a lot of time , i can lure some player to help me go faster to the last boss , and start the boss before they join the room , is a great NC soft nah ?!!