Blade Dancer

[short harbor]

and see the literal physical line that shows badge damage

assuming you have any relevant GM stacks

reverse math your AP and it will not match (if you have any GM stacks) supposedly SP affects this too to a degree or at least someone else mentioned it does (however I did not test this)

I did however reverse math LF badge damage against my GM stacks and noticed there is a difference between what in game combat text line shows versus what actualy 35% of my ap would be

This was also brought up in BM threads a long while ago because of the fact that they have so many builds they already tested this

[summer apex]

isnt this effected by cdmg also?

ap and cdmg

not gm

[short harbor]

yes it is also affected by CDMG

but again

just open your in game combat ttext

and look at it yourself

[summer apex]

hmmmm I think someone did testing on bm sunstroke badge before and it didnt apply any gm

[short harbor]

assuming you can math your relative CD

all you have to do is take a non crit dmg line and check it against your actual % of ap

you can also test this by

[summer apex]

ye i havent even tested it myself

[short harbor]

which is what i did

[summer apex]

just thought it didnt scale with gm

[short harbor]

Equip flicker badge - 0 GM check white line combat text value

Equip LF badge - x stacks check white line combat text value

In my case i use MW becaus ei had both as MW

and the one with GM stacks did not = (iirc 25% for MW) 25% of my then tested AP

I thought I was high af so I had someone whos more intelligent at math double check it while i streamed it

And there was in fact a difference

And Haru (a BM player) also confirmed that BM's had already tested it because of their infinite builds

But this information is lowkey moot because other than BM's ( i think its just this class cuz of the multitudes of builds they have) every other class is a no differ because youre getting a badge in which youre already stacking / is your actual main ability anyways

[lost canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[short harbor]

and the dps increase for BD at least would probably be so small DPS wise that it doesnt make a difference unless you have a hard on for like a 1-200 dps increase at best

[dapper cypress]

WTS Electric Piercer Connection NA - PMO

[short harbor]

98 * 35 = 3430%
4 * 920 = 3680%

Under these conditions

Assume individual has 900AP and 10 GM stacks of LF

98 * (35*1.18 = 41.3) = 4047.4%

Assume individual has 900 AP and 4 GM stacks of Fatal (cuz 2 free selectors - since the average person isnt probably going out of their way to stack SCs cuz gem)

4 (920 * 1.04 = 956.8) = 3827.2%

[summer apex]

[short harbor]

Like the math being done for what badge is better is just baseline

but it never includes GM stack

So unless my math i just did is wrong

which i could be wrong i suck at math

Just a literal 1:1 comparison FB would be better but if you dont get enough casts then LF is better (but ig this is just just dont be noob play better 4Head)

but uh something something 4 lf/s is ceiling bis

and then insert time to it takes to cast your next FB

and then run that math

and theres your answer

except maybe insert your own LFs but that 4 lf/s is also per hit and not per cast since LF is just 1 instance (ie cast since badge damage is applied to first instance of LF and cannot be ani cancelled)

but that last statement about LF badge being applied to first hit is also moot point cuz ideally you wouldnt wanna cancel a hit of LF anyways for either raw damage or CDR purposes so ye - just a fun fact

[harsh minnow]

it happened again was too slow trying to buy gold off the market

[short harbor]

18 is wild

[harsh minnow]

make bid time longer

[harsh minnow]

the average f2p players in this game are literally poor af cause gold economy sucks

i had 4g on my alt which is where this dropped lmfao

[short harbor]

or you could be like our boy hexy

think about bidding 125 and going nahhhhh they some broke ahh mfers in here and put your bid down to 120

then lose to someone who bid 123

and then they hit a 35k book and you sit there knowing you lost 30k

[harsh minnow]

well just cause someone else got a good book doesn't mean it'd have gone the same if someone else opened it lol 😆 but i get it

[short harbor]

nah

coulda been yours

cope

😂

they STOLE it from you cope

[mint yew]

wts NA

[harsh minnow]

REDEMPTION ARC

it was the 2nd drop so i had time to buy gold this time

[ionic patrol]

Best roration with full purple books?

X-> !6 -> Storm Cleave, Z -> 20 stacks instant -> Fatal -> !6 stacks -> sotrm, fatal etc?

[stuck cargo]

https://discord.com/channels/1164688788086345830/1353883704673439775

Start fight with Z then after thr first time use Z after fatal blade hits.

When C buff arrives I'm going to test ro see if you stagger your X and C casts between fatal but I'm pretty sure you do. Right now C doesn't give electricity so u can use it whenever for the CR increase

[dapper cypress]

WTB Purple Wind Sever NA - PM!

[short harbor]

wtf...

why is bro just seeing infinite purpel book drops

ive seen only 2 ever

[harsh minnow]

i've seen 4 total, 2 of them today 😆 idk what kind of weird luck i activated

[nocturne granite]

is BIS accessories 6x crit rate crit dmg, or do we need acc on a few pieces eventually?

[harsh minnow]

bro what is this luck today tempted to keep but should probably sell....

[little minnow]

this has to be omega cope, if it actually works it's because ncsoft is incompetent

[upbeat radish]

sounds like ncsoft

[short harbor]

idk but you can test it yourself

897*.35=313.95 - the game will proudly round up so 314 is what it should be doing

and the actual line in combat text isnt even static

there is a range for that

[stuck cargo]

Can we kill this guy? He's draining all the luck

[fluid dawn]

Sell right before legendary belt comes out

[upbeat scaffold]

kr top 1

[spring garnet]

WTB / EU Whirling scourge Purple

[fluid dawn]

Not this person?

[upbeat scaffold]

that one was losing on world boss

[fluid dawn]

These 2 solo carrying ncsoft pocket

[summer apex]

how is there that many leg books in circulation

[fluid dawn]

Naryu drops legendary books i heard. 1% drop or some

[desert scroll]

Way more people that whale way harder (with rng boxes)

And the leg book reroll transmute

[fluid dawn]

Theres a leg book reroll transmute? The one where you break down legendaries?

[desert scroll]

5 leg pages + 100 gold to make a new leg

Instead of the how many pages needed for us atm

[little minnow]

Also KR has been out for longer than EU/NA + more popular (or at least was initially)

[void sluice]

[WTB-EU] Purple Whirling Scourge, DM me

[fierce trail]

on eu cinderland...no one sell lighting bd skills

[dapper cypress]

WTB Purple Wind Sever NA - PM!

[sick pumice]

WTB> PURPLE FLICKER NA

[harsh minnow]

at least i'll go out with a bang

[river sail]

WTB us

[desert scroll]

It's even worse when you know that cinderlands/moonwater AH is shared

[fierce trail]

We become mascotte!!!! 🤣🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[sick pumice]

WTB NA SERVER

[river sail]

WTB NA

[sick pumice]

I can pay more than this guys

[river sail]

so buy in the market haha

[sick pumice]

same for u

[boreal plover]

PvP stat roll + 3x mantra - DM for offer

[slender jay]

what are the prices of stormcleave purple again ?

[nocturne granite]

NA is like 23-27k it seems

I sold 3 purple cleaves in that range at least

[desert estuary]

So what is best for a fatal blade build and lf cdr. Flicker or Connection?

And what would be the most ideal long rotation to go for, for max damage?

[desert scroll]

flicker if your team really needs the bleed apllication, otherwise connection

[desert estuary]

Yeah am currently Flicker LF CDR

But i cant seem to deal as much damage as other bds in my stat range

[desert scroll]

connection solves focus and gives more stacks so you get faster FB casts

flicker bleeds tho, so if your team goes from no bleed to full bleed thanks to it that's generally 10k+ effective dps

22.5k on Mujin

[desert estuary]

Yeah that much i understand. I am more interested in the best longterm rotation from start to repeat for Most dmg

[desert scroll]

there's not really a defined rot, try to reach 20 stacks asap after each FB and cast FB as much as you can is pretty much it

while doing proper anicancel and weaving of LF

[desert estuary]

Do i use FB->SC or do i neglect SC completely?
And if Z Comes up do i just 16 stack SC->Z->FB?
Or even if z gets up ->FB->Z->FB?

[desert scroll]

forget about SC completely

and ye you'd rather Fb Z FB

[desert estuary]

And what skills to use the lvl points on? SC LF Flicker are obvious. But the rest?

Got mine in X C and Z

And Stack SC is obvious aswell

[desert scroll]

doesn't matter much for the other points

Open your dps tracker of choice and put points in skill from top to bottom in the dmg list lmao

[desert scroll]

on full purple it's better to split stacks between LF and SC, but with LF prices it's probably not worth

after you get SC up to like 30-36 GM, stacking purple LF would give higher returns

[desert estuary]

Okay. Am at Z SC Flicker CDR purple rest blue and 8 SC mastery

But is lightning atm really that much weaker to a similar stat wind bd and similar book rarity?

[desert scroll]

with your setup it should be pretty close

but wind BD pushes further ahead pretty fast with stacks

[desert estuary]

And Assa with purple blue buff is way ahead of me. but thats normal or?

[desert scroll]

for that idk

[desert estuary]

Someone else some tips on LC BD Rotation?

[river sail]

ive bought hahaha

[hushed abyss]

.

[desert estuary]

So about the BiS C.
Lightning draw or Charged Stroke?

[spiral tapir]

Stroke 100%. Lightning draw is such a small portion of your total dps that its damage doesn't really matter. Stroke will provide you with more crits which are VERY important for fatal blades. Not to mention that Stroke will get buffed soon to help you get electric surge stacks faster. The only downside to Stroke is that it's worse in PvP, but nobody cares about PvP.

[visual tree]

WTS EU

[sick pumice]

wtb> purple flicker 8k NA server

[limpid skiff]

wtb wind sever 45K

[ionic patrol]

what u mean? I start with Z? Then stack for ftala bladed again? no storm cleaves?

[harsh minnow]

when you have purple lf cdr, you can just use fb and no cleaves

also purple scourge gives 20 stacks immediately which is why you can pop it at the start

[spring garnet]

WTB / EU Whirling scourge Purple

[small star]

Anyone wanna give me a price check on this? NA if relevant

[ionic patrol]

And purple charge > lighting PvP ? Cause its a sh1t load of dmg. how do u fit the charge on the rotation? only lasts 4 sec right?:/

[slow cairn]

Hi, I am new to BD, initially when the game launched youtubers and such were recommending Lightning, now everyone seems to have shifted towards Wind. Can someone explain the pros and cons?
I keep hearing Wind cant play without Purple what was Storm Sever...? Is this true?

Also TenTen says Wind is cheaper to build, but that was a while ago, now that everyone is playing Wind I doubt this remains as such?

I'd like to start a fresh character and wonder which spec would allow me to gear up faster(=cheaper) for end game (Bloodshade Harbor)

[stuck cargo]

The cheapest build rn is going to be lightning flash add damage but it's a dead end build. Wind is better if you can afford to stack multiple wind severs otherwise lightning pulls ahead at pull purple. The difference in DPS between both specs is marginal unless youre a giga whale so you can play what you find fun otherwise.

[slow cairn]

I am confused, could you elarabote on: Lightning being a dead end, but pulling ahead at purple?

No Legendary or... ?

[nocturne granite]

there are 2 main lightning builds, LF: additional damage being one, LF: cooldown reduction + storm cleave being the other

Add damage is the dead end one he's saying

[slow cairn]

Thanks!

[limpid skiff]

NA wtb wind sever 45K

[short harbor]

WTB LF Add Dmg NA

[stuck cargo]

Lighting Flash CD is the build that scales better at full purple but full purple is still expensive for most players. Lightning Flash Add Damage does a lot of damage enough to carry you through BSH2 and is cheaper but it doesn't scale into future content at all so eventually you'll have to swap to the CD build anyway.

[short harbor]

unless you play on like 0 ping then LF add damage unironically might scale pre decently into the next patch or two

[little minnow]

I mean currently, there's no content that can't be cleared with lf add (even on KR)

[short harbor]

also assumes you have insane macro

[little minnow]

If there will be actual content that requires so much dps that lf add can't keep up, then half the classes can just quit right now

[stuck cargo]

Low ping would also make add damage better too so it's not that much of a difference unless ur at the level where ur stacking storm cleave.

Also yes you can clear the content kr has now. Tho at some point purples will become cheap enough that you'd just be better off swapping anyway. And when KR gets BT in a year it could add more gear in the game that scales better with CD.

[little minnow]

Why would purples become cheap? KR has added 0 sources

apart from events, which we aren't getting

The only way for puprles to become cheaper is when there are no more new players and everyone already has everything they need

[stuck cargo]

The same reason why purples are cheaper now than they were a month ago

[little minnow]

?????????????

Purples were cheaper a month ago than now

Well, now might be wrong since everyone is quitting so market is actually getting flooded...

[stuck cargo]

Ok.

So the game is going to have more purple books in it because people are going to keep getting them slowly. Even if there are no better sources added to the game. Unless were talking about a book designed to be stacked, every other book is a 1 and done so every time those appear they will get cheaper and cheaper since less ppl need it

Am I saying purples will be 100 gems next patch no and youre a fool if you think that's what I'm implying

But the books will get cheaper as time goes by

[little minnow]

Naturally they will get cheaper, because this game gets no new players

I mean there's no point in arguing, I don't think there will even be a bns neo in a year

[stuck cargo]

👍

[little minnow]

This whole book model is designed for them to NOT get cheaper, but it's ruined when people actually get their full builds, e.g. full purples or even legendaries and there are no more new players that need them again

[limpid skiff]

NA wtb wind sever 45K

[stuck cargo]

Yeah idk why I got argued against about economics 101 but

[boreal plover]

tbh, i play mmorpgs for a full mmorpg experience - from combat, social functions, crafting / side-profession, etc

• bns is great at combat (and probably best), but they're literately gatekeeping it behind the skillbooks
• the only players whaling for the skillbooks are the returning or transitioning players from live because they understand why those skillbooks are important

all this to say, game's kinda cooked ngl

[stuck cargo]

Honestly the gear treadmill of skillbooks i wouldn't even mind. If it wasn't so damn hard to get them

[patent bronze]

the game is designed for a massive playerbase but its not designed to be welcoming to new players

[stuck cargo]

There's no reason why green to blue transmute needs to be 20/80 like???

[patent bronze]

the skill book system would be a completely fine system but there is just no certainty in getting what you want and there is 0 chance to even test what you might want to play
either buy and try out or go f*ck yourself

[boreal plover]

the game feels a little more playable if the transmute was more like 60blue/40green so we know nc soft would have player's interest in mind by having the probability favor the players

[stuck cargo]

There's should also be atleast green version of every skill

Some specs being locked behind blues is so dumb

[patent bronze]

at this point they might as well make it 100% and require 50 green frags

[stuck cargo]

Unironically better

Even if you spend the same amount of materials to make something

[boreal plover]

i also agree unironically better becaues that way, players would at least feel that they're building towards something / making progression

rather than rng and lose it all

[stuck cargo]

A guaranteed evolution that's more expensive will always feel better than a cheaper one that's high rng

[patent bronze]

the book chest being an rng book is already enough no need to make the aquirement of the chest also be rng

the game is just too much rng

where its not necessary

like at all

[harsh minnow]

at the very least there should be a pity. it's very noticeable how they have gear upgrade pity, insignia pity, card pity, but nothing for skillbooks which gatekeep literally Playing Your Class as opposed to just stat upgrades 🤨

[patent bronze]

just bad design

[boreal plover]

btw, small plug, i'm gonna be quitting after Star Resonance is out, so if you playing bd, just inspect my geras occasionally and make an offer to me on the gears / skillbooks when Star Resonance comes out 🐣

[stuck cargo]

Yeah cool concept absolutely abysmal execution

[patent bronze]

its mind boggling to me that they understood the western playerbase better almost 10 years ago then they do now

[desert scroll]

they probably understand, they just don't care

[patent bronze]

I don't think they do

unironically

they fired all the PC devs

most of their devs in korea are there for mobile

which is where most of their revenue comes from

and why NEO is practically a gacha game on steroids and worse

[boreal plover]

"why revive the mmorpg with the greatest combat in history when we can turn it into a gacha with bns skin over it?" 🐣

[patent bronze]

its not even a good gacha game

its really sad

they took all the worst ideas gacha games have had and put it into NEO

[boreal plover]

well, "gacha" is short for "gachapon", or games with lottery system

• bns IS a game with a lottery system, in fact, the entire game is a giant lottery

[desert scroll]

mfw bns makes hoyo artifacts look generous

[harsh minnow]

yeah the rng stats and rng increases on upgrade are straight out of multiple gacha games i've played, but the insane upgrade cost is ncsoft's special little cherry on top of the 💩 cake

[stuck cargo]

Its kind of the bad thing about capital. Without getting too political.

Everything now is just made to extract the most profit in the shortest time. That's why you see games with basically skeleton crews because they want to spend less on developing and fill the game with the scummiest micro transactions possible. Things like the resin design so that you have a forced stopping point and if you want to progress faster you need to pay.

Its all so like 3 dudes who don't even play games can makes a ton of money and players are left with lifeless husk games that they then yell at the underpaid over worked devs who actually had a good vision for the game stifled by the constant need to make line go up

[harsh minnow]

there's basically no satisfaction with gearing because even if you get a better drop eventually you probably invested so much gold+psyches+etc. into your current gear that it's just like. wow this is actually kinda useless... hopefully it at least sells

[harsh minnow]

you can see this really clearly with our version of neo bc the kr side is completely refusing to actually code any events into the game, cause that would actually cost time & money

[little minnow]

Probably can't afford a bigger team for NEO, people said initial concept for NEO was funded by Tencent and I'd believe it tbh

[boreal plover]

it's not even that - it's because they know NEO is a temporary / last-ditch effort to empty players' pockets so they dont want to code anything permanent to risk creating a bug / glitch lol

[harsh minnow]

well, idk if they care about bugs/glitches considering how rampant they are now 💀 but ig yeah, i could believe maybe they don't want to risk anything game-breaking cause they do not wanna clean that mess up

[boreal plover]

more bugs / glitches = more work
and they dont want more work on a temporary project 🐣

[desert scroll]

It's not even that because KR has events coded in, they just don't want to even pay for a translation for them

[harsh minnow]

there were 2 cheap lf cdr up on market but i was literally 200 dg short of the first one, then 700 short of the 2nd one 😭 😭 😭

tried to panic sell anything of value i had but they didn't sell fast enough

f2pain

[vital hollow]

Question: What skill is lightning blade?

[desert scroll]

same skill slightly higher dmg and no focus cost (the same as blade echo on flicker)

[fierce trail]

second time

HOLY.

[boreal plover]

grats on purple box

[fierce trail]

ye but second time a sheet skill

[limpid skiff]

NA wtb Purple Windsever 45k

[nocturne granite]

selling NA

[desert estuary]

WTS Purple Flicker EU Moonwater

[wooden holly]

hi there is this a real spe or it's the troll version of storm cleave ?

[desert estuary]

Thats a purple flicker for you

Or what do you mean with troll version?

[wooden holly]

i mean that u dont get electric surge staks and no focus recovery (i dont know what singing blade is)

[desert estuary]

ah. Flicker deals more dmg than Electric pierce connection. Singing Blade enhances the crit rate for flicker at 5 stacks the 6th flicker will crit

Flicker appearantly is better for Lightning Flash Additional Damage builds

[wooden holly]

so it's a lightning pvp spe?

[desert estuary]

not pvp. some prefer do play lightning without the cleave spam. ad is better there

but pvp has its advantage on that yewa

[desert scroll]

Purple Piercer will be better for your own DPS on purple LF cdr + FB build
But flicker provides bleed so if your party doesn't have any it'd be better there too

Going from no bleed to full bleed uptime on Mujin is like +21k effective dps

(because he regens about 21k per second and bleed removes that)

[wooden holly]

and you go dual strike instead of storm cleave ?

it sounds like you loose a lot of dps if there is already bleed in party

[desert scroll]

For LF add DMG it doesn't matter, but you can also do storm cleave build with flicker

It's not that much of a DPS loss either because the base DMG on flicker is higher so it compensates a bit for the slower FB casts

[wooden holly]

i guess purple LF cdr is mandatory if i steel want storm cleave

[desert scroll]

Yeah

[wooden holly]

mhm ty very much i think i ll try it (it's my rerol anyway)

[cold talon]

flicker with storm cleave build is good

[upbeat radish]

[wheat atlas]

why is the purp version so much more expensive than the blue?

[upbeat radish]

it shouldnt be higher than 8k, but ppl

even 8k is kinda high but acceptable

[limpid skiff]

NA wtb Purple Windsever 45k

[lost canopy]

Wts purp wind server 55k na

[limpid skiff]

[slate acorn]

Flicker with storm cleave should be fine tbh

[fierce trail]

oh no another bd quitting T_T

[static rose]

Who is the best BD on Neo?

[cinder flame]

EU

[static rose]

NO WAY

[cinder flame]

[static rose]

i ask

and u instantly type here

das crazy

[cinder flame]

LOL im not best bd..

[summer apex]

wtb purp storm cleaves 20k

[summer apex]

best means nothing as biggest wallet does the most damage

so kamisamaa on na or valira on eu

[static rose]

no

not in terms of dps

just skill

[naive tree]

Bds and skill

[shy yoke]

Any BD players, I plan on making a BD alt (just for Mushin/BBR spam). I have no plans on stacking purple books, but may buy 1 or two to enable the build. What is the better build to go for regarding DPS with those restrictions, Wind or Lightning?

[summer apex]

just play lightning flash additional damage green books

[shy yoke]

I have no issues stacking blues if needed

[summer apex]

if u want to pay for severs sure

lightning has no blue books

outside of utility

get blue z x 2 and play lf add dmg

[desert estuary]

What can i do to survive tanking? I just get shat on by the twins as soon as i start tanking dem

[summer apex]

lifedrain

more hp

[desert estuary]

Ah lifedrain. Cards. F on that

[scarlet iris]

WTB> LF: CR NA

[desert estuary]

WTS EU Moonwater:

[limpid skiff]

NA wtb Purple Windsever 47k

[fluid dawn]

You can get moonwater serendipity to get some life drain in

[lost canopy]

price check on purple whirling scourge o.o?

[inner badge]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooOOooooooo...........

[lost canopy]

But that's good

At least it's not worthless

[boreal plover]

That's a book that can sell anywhere between 20k - 35k (depending on the region and timing and the buyer)
Idk why you're saying "nooooo"......

[static rose]

ik its skill-less class

but of all us bonobos here, i wanna know whos the best

[summer apex]

probably me vro

[naive tree]

Ye kz

100%

[summer apex]

rank 6-7 on world boss at level 49

im coming for that rank 2 spot at 55

[static rose]

u that

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

guy?

[summer apex]

ya

[static rose]

ahhh

i already wondered who dis new bd is

that is going to cost me top 5

[summer apex]

im coming for that spot vro

[static rose]

dw

u wont have any competition in me

[cinder flame]

eu

[summer apex]

all of the bd players are terrible anyways

so not much competition with anyone

[static rose]

i can proudly say im the worst

u wont take my nr 1 spot on that

[summer apex]

Nah you the goat

[naive tree]

Kz and I swapped, now he is Bd and I am sin

[summer apex]

Should have swapped gear bro

[upbeat scaffold]

nah

[static rose]

Goat at collecting weapon break achievement

[dreamy terrace]

Time to go wind, and give me your cleaves

And lf cdr

[dreamy terrace]

Solution to spot #1 = 💳

[spring garnet]

little question for BD exp

2k pierc 1k6 accu

ORRRRRR

2k3 pierc 1k6 acc

[summer apex]

Are you wind or lightning

[spring garnet]

wind

idk what is the best

less AP but more CD

or more Ap and less CD

[summer apex]

oh i was muted again

@naive tree continue the flame for me ty

[naive tree]

naaaa fr????

bro huh

[summer apex]

muted without any messages

saying how long

so I think its perma this time

[static rose]

dw

my 7 days mute

became 8 days

[summer apex]

[static rose]

until trash messaged the mods

i cba with this

ngl

[summer apex]

so why did i get muted

if tagging 1 staff is allowed

and I said nothing with any profanity

[static rose]

i can only tell u

tagging bear

and saying sth mean

isnt a good idea unless u want permanent vacation

like me

[summer apex]

I didnt tag bear

it was rownen

asking for maintenance post

lmao

[static rose]

i even tagged rownen to join me for poh daily on 50 patch

he even said hed come

[summer apex]

@crimson topaz unmute me vro

[static rose]

like wth

[summer apex]

I got muted for legit nothing

[naive tree]

nothing bad

only the truth

[spring garnet]

@summer apex so what do you think ??

[static rose]

less ap

yw

[spring garnet]

yeah i think too , better , thanks 🙂

[little minnow]

AP > CD because your CV looks better

[spring garnet]

what do you mean CV ???

[little minnow]

CV = F3 page

[spring garnet]

oh okk

hmm idk what to do , i will try pountch the difference

[slender jay]

I think ap beats CD but dépends on whats the Trade

[static rose]

I dont look at ap

I just look at cd

Ppl with 900+ ap but 2.3k cd apllied on me

[upbeat scaffold]

that one 100%

[slender jay]

How many stacks ?

[upbeat scaffold]

2

16gm

[inner badge]

Yeah.. but Im wind!! Lol. That was my lvl 50 book. 😦

[slender jay]

U do alot of dmg considering ur stats

Wait 3 fkin ms...

No Wonder u got those ratios

[upbeat scaffold]

its the same at 30ms

cant say about 40

[lost canopy]

I mean all my bound books have been trash so ur lucky. I should probably play wind. My ping and low rolling on cleave makes me pretty mad

[slender jay]

I think you would have same ratio but do less

Cause of ping

No focus issues cuz of flicker ?

[inner badge]

Yeah.. if I wasn't around 50-70 ping i'd try lightning as well.

[lost canopy]

Pretty sure he runs fissure to help with that

[lost canopy]

Wym 50-70 is fine I'm 150

[slender jay]

Well to late i Switchd to wind à while ago

[lost canopy]

And I do ok damage

[summer apex]

it is the same at 40

you can do 4lf/s at 40

[unique arch]

wts EU

[spring garnet]

WTB EU

[summer apex]

price?

[desert estuary]

Still want to sell these

WTB EU

[summer apex]

swapping to light?

[desert estuary]

Always been light ^^
But skill been missin for ~2 weeks now

[unique arch]

around 10k but idk, true is 15 on market with similar stats

[summer apex]

its way more than 5k nc to tap to true

im good for now but ty

[slender jay]

@summer apex its me

Thats selling

Why?

[summer apex]

was interested

[slender jay]

Was?

Im at work so dunno if it sold

[summer apex]

yea not online anymore

it didnt

[slender jay]

I see

I mean dm me your offer always up to help. Fellow. Bd's

[wanton haven]

how is that rank28?
dead server lol

[desert scroll]

people still care about world boss ?

you gain nothing if you're not in top 5 anyways

[wanton haven]

you get a miniscule amount of divines

if it happens while im online i just do it

[harsh minnow]

my f2poor ass needs every gem i can get

you do get literally nothing if there's no drop but i cling to the chance

[rare shore]

benefits of being on the non-whale servers

[visual tree]

I think its more the fact that its a waste of time for 99% of people that go lol so they ignore it now.

[fluid dawn]

Rank 3 at lvl 18 🤗 but im in bamboo village so that doesnt mean much lol

[fluid dawn]

This one better

[upbeat radish]

this guy really keeps reposting at this price

20 18 20

[inner badge]

Hope he runs outta gold.

[naive tree]

[harsh minnow]

can you parry the thrasher's bite thing or have to iframe it?

[upbeat radish]

i've seen the animation cut short when there's BM tanking so im guessing u can block

[harsh minnow]

oke i probably just mistimed then

[wanton haven]

Its the same as Dokumo 2nd kd slash, the parry window starts before the animation so you can parry it preemptively. Or at least thats how it was on live.

Killing thousands of Thrashers in MSP flashbacks

[high egret]

what price of soaring bleed skill book heroic?

what price for heroic skill book this?

[night crown]

should i buy Purple Electric piercer connection for 12k or keep saving till i can get LFCD?

[static rose]

you can just move on his side or behind him and it wont hit u

[spring garnet]

Time to salvage 🤣

[spice girder]

Worthless... might as well use it yourself

If u want to sell, its 1-2k max

[mint yew]

WTS NA pm offer

[cinder flame]

eu

[static rose]

WTB purple wind sever EU

🐀

[harsh minnow]

think this is gonna be the play bc my timing is so horrible, doesn't help that i'm both new to the dungeon and practicing new rotation 😆 i try not to move the boss around too much when i have aggro but ppl can just deal ig

[summer apex]

@slender jay how much u want for that earring tho

[static rose]

dont care abt others

just stay alive

q and e are ur bread and butter

on thrasher u can just q e behid him

[shy yoke]

This is what I got for my BP book on my new BD alt. Worth transitioning from Lightning to Wind, or no?

[summer apex]

no

[cedar wadi]

Lmao

We’re not planning to give selection box in battlepass

Will give out through other events

[wheat atlas]

Nc pls give me a golden shockwave i deserve it

[short harbor]

inb4 translation error something something not actually selector

https://tenor.com/view/despicable-me-laughing-laugh-minion-popcorn-gif-5267724

[cedar wadi]

Lmao

More ppl will run away

[short harbor]

at this point if its not a selector

actually just closing the coffin

[cedar wadi]

You want LF cdr? Or are you sticking with LF add

Yeah

[short harbor]

neither

stacking gems and quitting

😂

[cedar wadi]

Ah

I was going to say

I have cdr cheap for you

I saw you are in our guild dc

[short harbor]

ya babo ask me about it LOL

[cedar wadi]

I can get you cheap

Whole purple set

And then I give my gem to babo

[patent sphinx]

game saved

[fierce trail]

it's bound purple selection box? oh finally

i swear to god it's right finally i can have ls cd

[upbeat radish]

yeah everyone just post your purple wind severs now

i'll take them for 10k ty

[fierce trail]

oh you right, i can buy electro pierce purple for low price

or flicker

idk atm lol

[cedar wadi]

Look at what they give out

When the game is full of player

And now

Wts everything on artemizu

Pmo f3 search my name

Garage sell

[desert scroll]

just gotta hit Poh for another 4 weeks before you get there

[distant obsidian]

FOR REAL

[desert scroll]

I just wanted to get my disappointment and quit, why they gotta be making it hard on me 💀

[cinder dawn]

Bwahahahah I got Electro Piercer: Stun....guess that's karma for getting Connection on the lvl 55 one

[short harbor]

the game really wants me to press tab

[desert estuary]

What do we think on shockwave for lightning bd?

[desert scroll]

Pretty pointless unless you're Foshi

[desert estuary]

Why foshi?

just pulled it from event book <.<

[desert scroll]

He's stacking shockwave lmao

If you really want some aoe to clear trash mobs you can use a slot on it but that's pretty much all it's worth

[scarlet iris]

How much

[cedar wadi]

Idk what’s market price

Im afk for a month

I am selling it at market price tonight at f5, then I give my gem to guild mate

[upbeat radish]

it goes for 2000 gem now

[cedar wadi]

I see

[upbeat radish]

if u got a purple sever i can help u out with 1800 too

[cedar wadi]

Wind superiority

I don’t have sorry. You can choose it next patch

[spring garnet]

what about my luck?

Blee falcon from BP and from event

[harsh minnow]

3/3 unusable books, oh well, selector is a thing at least if game doesn't fully die by then

i also love how a bunch of skill names are still messed up, they don't care enough to fix lmao

[slate acorn]

[spring garnet]

🥴

Im pretty sur you already got one wind sever

[slate acorn]

I do

From GM16 to GM22

[spring garnet]

All time same PPL got Luck

[slate acorn]

Pretty nice ngl

????

Every purple book I've ever made has been either Dual Strike Daze or Flock of Blades

[spring garnet]

Well mb , nice to you

[little minnow]

Haha me too!

[inner badge]

This is literally the last purple I need. 😦

[upbeat radish]

at least it wasnt completely useless.. but yeah

[azure hare]

Guys, if we compare max gear/skills wind vs lightning... wind does more dmg, right?

[summer apex]

wind

[scarlet iris]

got this tooo

[scarlet iris]

guess its time for me to switch to LF:AD

[inner badge]

This any good?

Lvl 50 and event have been lightning skills. 😦

[scarlet iris]

its good but its not needed

[harsh minnow]

yeah iirc it just gives you a couple more stacks, not a priority skill

[scarlet iris]

does anyone have the dmg comparison for fatal blade lf:cdr > lf:ad

[upbeat radish]

this is ridiculous

but now it can go down faster i guess

[fierce trail]

maybe i can buy ep connection for 5k

or flicker with this pass

[upbeat radish]

now we're talking

[inner badge]

Hold out. There was one for 7k the other day.

[upbeat radish]

i bought it long ago for 8k and was almost a dps loss in my rotation, had to resell

recently bought multislash and skyward for 3k each

[inner badge]

Really? How? It doesn't give you Wind Charge up9time?

[upbeat radish]

yeah but the animation is bad to use the skill twice and assuming cuz of high ping it made my rotation slow

probably a better increase with purple sever, cuz dragon

[stuck cargo]

Log into bns once a week

[scarlet iris]

grats

[stuck cargo]

Easy life

[placid turtle]

WTS EU pm offer

[harsh minnow]

finally got a double crit piece only for it to be this

[wheat atlas]

gib 100% shockwaves

[inner badge]

@dapper cypress

[static rose]

WTS EU

[spring garnet]

@static rose price ?

[static rose]

make an offer

[spring garnet]

Give me a minute i will check f5

[primal stag]

guys can someone have build for wind bd?

[static rose]

this would be the bread & butter

obv take purple wind sever from the BP selector next patch

virtous soul badge more important than mystic badge imo

[jagged lion]

WTS Purple Flaming Scourge

[static rose]

u wanna disable 2 skills: bladeguard and flicker (optional) so Q doesnt fck u up when it puts u into draw stance

[spice girder]

Wts awakened pirate glove, 115 cdm and defense, double crit at psyche, 2 slot and no mantra

I'll send ss when i online

[visual tree]

Is there a major reason why the rolling typhoon badge is advised over wind sever?

[fierce trail]

with storm clave purple build , better flicker or connection? max dps ofc

[placid turtle]

WTS EU pm offer

[little minnow]

Because it does more damage

[summer apex]

same reason you run fb badge as light

does more dmg overall

[spice girder]

you pm'd me kz?

cant send msg though

[summer apex]

ye i was interested in gloves but I cant read, thought they were leg & double crit

my bad

ah y privacy settings ppl cant dm me cuz I get messaged by robots

[mint yew]

WTS NA

[dapper cypress]

Mm?

[inner badge]

Nvm. He deleted.
He posted C/O 35k for WS.

[dapper cypress]

Ah

[radiant jasper]

how much this skill in eu any idea?

[static rose]

Never on market, not worth more than idk 3k

[harsh minnow]

5th purple drop seen, 2nd won didn't have enough dg to buy gold so i just bid everything i had lol

randos in bbr rly do be poor 😔

book will surely fund my bp for purple selector next week

[scarlet iris]

wow ive never seen a purple drop before

how often do u grind bbr?

[harsh minnow]

i drain my alt on bbr every day 💀 the only other dungeons i do on it are poh/chef once each for daily

[last kayak]

7-day event, but the announcement only came out today... So you want players to help you bring in others, but you don’t actually want to give out that many rewards, is that it?

[upbeat radish]

WTS NA

[spring garnet]

Somoene know who sell this ?? ( EU )

[spice linden]

is 65% RT a good dmg ratio for wind ? or should i have more

im 680 ap and only blue books (missing 4 wind severs atm)

[spice girder]

WTS EU Moonwater

[summer apex]

wts this complete ass on eu, legit anything reasonable above sealing charm price and you can have it

[spring garnet]

GL ^^

[static rose]

WTB (EU)

[fluid dawn]

Break it down at this point 🥲🥲

[spice girder]

To think there is a posibility the stats doesnt increase is truly dumb

My ring literally stays the same after awakening

119 > 119

[harsh minnow]

lowest i think i've seen

[harsh minnow]

yeah it's one of the more heavily weighted ones too, 4% or smth

[scarlet iris]

damn i bought mine last week at 13k

[harsh minnow]

i feel you, ppl started listing some books for cheap after purple selector announcement, i just bought some stuff before most recent main 😆

i need someone to list flaming scourge for cheap

[scarlet iris]

how much would u consider cheap?

ive been holding back from buying it cuz the prices keep dropping

[harsh minnow]

i saw one for 5k expire but well, could just be no one online who wanted it at the time

[scarlet iris]

i rmber seeing that one

[harsh minnow]

think 4k would be my ideal but 4.5 probably more realistic

[scarlet iris]

thinking if i wanna switch to LF:AD

but purple selector coming out

i could pick LF:CDR

[harsh minnow]

lf cdr was hyuge, i'm enjoying it. i miss using storm cleave tho cause the animation was cute. but going wheee up in the air for fatal blade is fun too

[short harbor]

WTS NA PMO

[boreal plover]

some poor bastard trying to sell SC for 30k when purp selector coming out and he re-listed it for 29k lol
bro's gonna be losing 70g - 80g (or roughly 900gems) just from listing it until it hits a resaonable price if he's just dropping it by 1k everytime lmao

[fossil schooner]

is it like usually like 25K or something?

[harsh minnow]

25 is usually what i see, idk what price it sells at tho

[distant obsidian]

Good

[distant obsidian]

Can’t wait to have my lf cd via pass

[spring garnet]

How much can i deal with purple wind sever ??? Atm 925 ap , 3400cr, 3200CD , 2k pierce. X14 wind sever , atm 22k on hai mujin

[boreal plover]

prior to the purp selector announcement, the book went for as low as **18,888 **(i know because i track the market every day, and on a 2-hour interval) and as high as 30k at peak

• selling for 30k now is going to be almost impossible bc no normal person would be willing to pay the max price prior to the purp selector announcement

so what should it cost now that we're getting a purp selector for 2k thru the BP?

• i don't know, i'm just giving you facts on what i observed on the market
• i personally will not pay for it even if it's 10k because i'll purp selector for the SC

the SCs that were on the market for 45k were sold at the beginning to the few LBD whales here, but since then no SCs were sold at that high because it's not a core QoL (quality-of-life) change skill

[static rose]

I mean

Since purple selector announcement

People unironically try to sell purple sever for 40k

[distant obsidian]

Not buying that shid for more then 10 k

Scalpers era end there

A couple of pass and the rotation is completed

[spice girder]

you guys buying books?

[distant obsidian]

The chad frog

[little minnow]

Prices will go back to 'normal' after people realize that you need 12 of the same books, not 1

[dreamy terrace]

What server is this?

[distant obsidian]

Yeah yeah good luck buying a 300 euro book

[cinder flame]

EU

[upbeat scaffold]

wb strat

[boreal plover]

ayo, can someone give me an actual advantage of playing a Wind BD instead of a Ice FM (or Lightning BD instead of WL)?

because i honestly see no advantage of playing BD with all the changes from Live to NEO

[shy yoke]

Its very high damage at much lower investment than either of those. I main Ice FM, and BDs with half my investment do similar damage

[dapper cypress]

At the same time, FM has the advantage of being range so you kind of get more up-time compared to BD to be honest if someone's holding aggro than you just spam dps and not think about much until there's range mechanics

[boreal plover]

@shy yoke @dapper cypress the problem with me is ping lol

Someone at 50 ping can do twice as much DMG as me

If you want someone with HMB, BMs are much better

If you want a melee support AoE DMG dealer, then you got Destroyer

If you want damage frontline then you got KFM and Sins

If you just want AoE then FM

If you want single target range, we got WL coming up

If you want to just support, then Summoner

If you want PvP, then pick Sin

There's literally nothing that's uniquely strong about BD

All classes do something that's uniquely strong, and BDs have literally zero value proposition

[dapper cypress]

What's your ping at?

BD in a nutshell is just a DPS class with no utility but Wind BD does allow for significantly more AoE Damage than compared to Destroyer if we consider long fights, Des is good but wouldn't do as much as BD outside of Execute and investment wise requires less for as much damage. Grab for BD is redundant since Summ cat is better and HM block isn't bad to use on BD but still better on BM anyways. It's really just playing whatever you enjoy to be honest. I play BD and I just greed for DPS but at the very least I can output enough that running with people that does significantly less or none doesn't really affect the runs

[boreal plover]

That's exactly what I'm getting at

Why would someone pick BD over Sins and KFM if they're looking for dmg?

[desert scroll]

Because they enjoy the class

Why would anybody play anything other than the top dps class when dps is the only thing that matters

[boreal plover]

NC Soft made NEO into a brainless mosh pit of DPS

So technically, DPS or support skills that add to the team's DPS are the only things that matter

[dapper cypress]

Gameplay style, poison stacking vs ani cancelling vs brain dead spam, in a nutshell it's either race preference, playstyle preference or simply animation

[boreal plover]

Been doing BSH2 for about 2 weeks now and the DPS check is pretty insane -
The DPS check is even tighter for Naryu

[summer apex]

the dps check for mujin is not tight

[upbeat radish]

Was heavens reach

[fierce trail]

that's my problem...most of party prefer to take kfm or sin than bd.. cuz with 800 ap good stat and full blue skills can be 20k+ dps at training base... me with 900ap good stat blue skills and storm clave pruple just 16k max...that's a joke

[summer apex]

I do 23-25k on mujin with 784ap

must be a hands issue

[harsh minnow]

you stacking purples out here?

[summer apex]

1 purple lf cdr epc and sc

and I have a 95% hit rate on mujin

lmao

cuz im also level 50

[fierce trail]

i don't have ls cdr purple just green lol, the rest of my skill is blue /purple and i have fast macro

same for connection, is blue

just fatal blade is purple

[desert scroll]

Well that's the issue then

purple LF cdr is about a 50%+ dmg increase

[fierce trail]

ye ikr , but kfm or sin with less stats and nothing purple book can be more than me

but ye, leading palm /spirit with crit dmg buff and perma crit rate is normal

and idk why ncclown don't give at us the same flaming scorge buff from live ( cuz yes in live give crit damage and crit rate)

[wheat atlas]

At least shockwave is more viable in Neo than in Live 😂 but then again ppl can just play Wind for aoe 😭

[summer apex]

sin is not doing 20k in training base with 800ap and blue books only

[fierce trail]

18k about if stack electro pierce and really low ping

[fierce trail]

ye i waiting new pass for finally have lf cdr

[desert scroll]

issue of main skill being green or purple, we don't have a good blue to stack

[fierce trail]

yep...

tbh i thinking to sell all gear and swap to my main, it's kfm, but after all after liv 55, i waiting new game and ggwp

[fossil schooner]

i just sold it for 24k LOL

you are right though but ppl are dumb

[boreal plover]

Yeah, and LBD Is heavily dependent on ping as well for decent output

[boreal plover]

I agree on this lol
But I think you're one of the special BDs that's making Shockwave work xd

[boreal plover]

Congrats on selling it at pre purp selector announcement price

[boreal plover]

In fact, I think LengQ bought it lol

[summer apex]

probably the most ping dependent class in the game

and spec

[fossil schooner]

no i checked he was maxed

[fossil schooner]

this only affects people who are first time buying but most people stacking will still buy at prices before announcement. just a little lower than before

[slender jay]

@boreal plover what you mean useless ? Bd has mobility hmb same as bm not worst if ur wind non punishing rotation 3 cc if u spec 3 iframes and survivability if u get 400 def tab with movement speed to boot and it does good decent dmg as wind ping don't matter that much since anicancel isn't rly a thing

Destro is hard and very ping dependent bm is bm sin if u miss poison stack ur done fm I'm not sure never played that summoner does to litle. Dmg and for pvp if u spec right skills and know how to play its very strong

[wheat atlas]

BD is that class that has to abandon all utility just to be on par with a BM WITH utility.

[wanton haven]

BD is only light, the other thing is called hatta hatta

[slender jay]

Wdym abandon all utility?

We got hmb without issues?

We can tank

We can dash quite far

If u do it right

[wanton haven]

Bruh BD can only put 5 books for gm

[slender jay]

And yea you lose 1 k dps if u change a skill

[wanton haven]

Other classes can put 10+

[slender jay]

10+?

Like who?

Bd can put alot too

Im 22 mastery with 1 purple

And all I need

[wanton haven]

Yeah by abandoning all utility

[wheat atlas]

Ditching HM Block, Grab, Spin, for additional skill stacking

[slender jay]

Why would u do that?

[wanton haven]

No grab, no bleed, no parry, no kd extend

[slender jay]

Grab u have by default

[wanton haven]

Default grab is a joke

[slender jay]

By this logic sin is useles

Only dmg

And stealtg

And tbh not alot more than bd

I mean u can switch if u want but bd isn't useless

I played on live bd the whole time

[wanton haven]

yeah just bombard build is enough to invalidate bds existence bcs of perma bleed

[slender jay]

Was doing 2-3 mechs in raids

Bombard does no dmg

And bds can bleed

[wanton haven]

Neo isnt live

[slender jay]

I'm not gonna explain how

But they can

Without hurting rotation

[wanton haven]

Did i say they cant?

[slender jay]

Or dmg

[wanton haven]

I said other classes do it effortlessly

[slender jay]

Same as bd

I can do it effortlesly

Without sacrificing dmg

[wanton haven]

Tab parry into lmb into draw opener even if done perfectly hurts dps, but i guess you only know of wind unga bunga

[slender jay]

I'm wind

[wanton haven]

And thats still 2 extra books that need to be speced and cant go into gms

[slender jay]

And with lightning just grab purple raid

Takes some time then it lines up perfectly

To. Hold up stacks

[wanton haven]

Ok bro ill grab a skill that doesnt exist thx

[slender jay]

Hmm 1 sec

I meant falcon mb

Or you can go flicker

I don't loose that much dmg

But yea if u wanna just say bd is useless that's easy 😅

Though imo it isn't

[wanton haven]

Light BD is. Cant gm stack, needs more effort to do simple things and doesnt do dmg without purple books, but keep dreaming.

[slender jay]

My dud

[wanton haven]

There is a reason you can count the light BDs on each server on your hand

[slender jay]

Yea I'm wind

But. Lightning can do too

Just go full lf aditional

Get good macro

You good till they start stacking legendary and alot of severs

[boreal plover]

i never said bd is useless - you just can't seem to stop twisting people's words
I said , and i repeat for the 3rd motehrfking time - "BD have no UNIQUE value proposition" because everything that BD can do, another class can do better

[wanton haven]

Again with the purple skills, w/e you are dumb

[boreal plover]

"BD have no UNIQUE value proposition" =/= "useless"

[slender jay]

Unique value?

[wanton haven]

Just get a skill that costs 20k + and doesnt exist on f5

[slender jay]

Sins is same bm is same

[wheat atlas]

Wind BD is definitely more versatile having V as a literal iframe on demand and 3 as a additional KD. Also they can anicancel soaring falcon KD following up with rolling typhoon so long as they stay a +4m range.

[slender jay]

Every class is same

Wtf

[wanton haven]

Yeap let me drop 200$ as an entrypoint

[slender jay]

Just farm

And do good decisions

Wtf

It's not hard to get 20k gems

[wanton haven]

The good decision is not playing light

[summer apex]

what

how can you say it's not hard to get 20k lmao

[slender jay]

Well yea

[summer apex]

when your income is entirely based upon luck

[slender jay]

Like for sin it's not to play bombard

[little minnow]

if 20k gems wasn't hard, it wouldn't cost 200$

[slender jay]

And for bm not to play Pierce or what's it called

It's same for all classes

[summer apex]

exactly

[slender jay]

Wrf

[wanton haven]

He is delusional bro

[summer apex]

what a dented take

jesus

[slender jay]

Upon luck?

You guys want to make 20 k on 1 item

[wanton haven]

All blue bd books except sever are at 200divines

[summer apex]

2% chance to get a book worth 20k+

[slender jay]

That's not the only thing selling

Psyche

[summer apex]

its not hard btw

[slender jay]

Essences

Etc

But yea....

[summer apex]

psyches which you have to roll between 5 other people for, which sell for 90 gems

[wanton haven]

Even getting 1 blue daily, which wont happen, ammounts to 100 days for just 20k

[slender jay]

It's ok I like talking to a wall

[summer apex]

you are incredibly dented

[slender jay]

Bro I did this

My friends did this

We play alot yea

[summer apex]

you realize you have to sell 220 psyches for 20k right

you winning that roll 220 times in a row?

[slender jay]

Nvm man I'm done

Go cry cuz you don't get stuff in 1 h..

[summer apex]

?

[slender jay]

My did I have alot of f2p friends that didn't get huge skills to sell and have mujin dps

Even more

My dud*

[boreal plover]

LBD's damage comes from LF, if they're stacking SC, then that means they're misinformed or just prefer to do less damage

I think LengQ is misinformed on which skill to stack

It doesn't matter if they're stacking or not, prices will be set and bought according to supply-and-demand

[slender jay]

If noone buys for 20 k

It won't sell for 20 k

[boreal plover]

LF is currently hovering 17k - 22k, and SC is hovering 20k - 25k

• There's zero reason to stack SC given that it's not where most of LBD's dmg comes from AND it's more expensive

[wanton haven]

Every SC stack before purples is double the gm points so it kinda evens out. But again gm stacking on 30% dps skill is terrible anyway

[summer apex]

lf cdr is 17-22k on NA?

[wanton haven]

Lf cdr is 35k on moonwater

[summer apex]

ye

[cold talon]

yea there was a listing for 15k that expired

few days ago

[summer apex]

and purple sc is 20k+

often 25k

[little minnow]

Isn't FB actually #1 in dmg? pretty sure @cold talon posted a log...

[wanton haven]

Im just saving for connection at 10k anyway

Then getting lf cdr from next bp

[cold talon]

it is very close to tied with flash assuming 0gm

[slender jay]

But yea guys should play bd cause you like it not cause its top tier

[boreal plover]

Yeah, the prices of purple books are so different between EU and NA even tho the drop rates between both servers should be the same

[slender jay]

If I wanna play top tier class

[boreal plover]

It's absolutely fkn wild that this happpens

[slender jay]

You playing the game wrong imo

[wanton haven]

All of moonwater has quit so no bd books exist anymore

[summer apex]

the issue is that there is no blue books to stack for lightning bd

besides storm cleave

which can get you up to 24gm alone with blues

[wanton haven]

We are literally playing light BD bcs we like it even tho its undoubtedly the worst spec in the game without whaling hard

[boreal plover]

Most people will quit soon anyway as Chrono Odyssey (or something like that) is coming out

• I'm personally gonna quit if Star Resonance turns out good (the CN closed beta found a bunch of bad designs that the devs publicly addressed solutions on before global release)

[cold talon]

yes, need to stack blue cleaves because its more damage than green flash

at purple you stack whichever of the two is cheapest

[wanton haven]

Even if its slightly less dmg, having lots of blues on f3 will get you accepted on randos compared to stacking greens

[fossil schooner]

legendary proofing LOL

[wanton haven]

So its more of a matter of psychology rather than dmg

[slender jay]

Well then play it have fun

There always will be a bigger whale

So have fun with the game play with friends

Etc

Thats what bns is all about

[wheat atlas]

So stack LFCD over SC?

[slender jay]

Having fun in a broken badly monetised game

Cuz of the players not the game

[little minnow]

Stack whichever cheaper (assuming no legendary ever in your lifetime )

[boreal plover]

Kinda stupid to "Legendary Proof" at this stage of the game when everyone's thinking if they wouold be dropping the game tomorrow or not

Like no offense

[fossil schooner]

i mean chinese ppl dont care

[summer apex]

it depends if you have legendary cleave or not

at legendary cleave your stack for lf cdr to storm cleave will differ

compared to purple

[fossil schooner]

guys just listen to cavok. if u cant even afford lfcd its joever

[summer apex]

not wrong

dont even think about playing lightning without purple lf cdr

[wanton haven]

Just stack lmb connection, not gonna change much

[fossil schooner]

i meant u should stack the cheaper rather than being broke unable to stack lfcd

[wanton haven]

But it will at least show up the gm points in f3 unlike freaking storm cleave

[fossil schooner]

if you care about gains

[desert scroll]

And it's only getting worse with time

[summer apex]

wdym

the storm cleave points show

[wanton haven]

At full blues, first 3 skill will be bleed lmb, rmb and lf so sc doesnt show up lol

Peak design

[summer apex]

wasn't for me

depends where you have them slotted no?

[little minnow]

Isn't it just your first 3 skills from earring or necklace

[summer apex]

no

all my purples are in bottom accessories

and my blue cleave stack showed too

[wanton haven]

No its just pepega

[harsh minnow]

i could never figure out how the game decides what skills to show

[upbeat radish]

wdym rmb

[desert scroll]

nah, when I had a random shockwave for mob clearing I tried moving it around and it always showed up on top of the list shoving out SC

[upbeat radish]

and do u mean thunderstorm lmb, basic attack bleed

[harsh minnow]

when i had shockwave on to help with mobs bc i had nothing better, it would show that as my first skill 😆

[wanton haven]

Yes my f3 shows thunderstorm shock wave and connection or sth, ignores gm6 storm cleave

Smol indie compay

Let me see if i have a recent photo in another server

Got the meme about wind drops

Important skills lmb/rmb.

[upbeat radish]

thunderstorm has a huge priority on the profile for some reason, but dont think u should use it on lightning anyways

[wanton haven]

Only reason I get accepted in parties actually

I do 11-13k but take care of the bleeding and more than make up for my lost dps

For CS and BSH1 that is

[harsh minnow]

i just accepted i bring no bleed bc every way to get it seems like a huge pain in the butt 😔

[wanton haven]

The active parrying playstyle into lmb anicancel into draw stance anicancel is actually really fun

Brought a fresh air to the gameplay while I wait for a magic purple book to happen

[wanton haven]

It just puts lmb/rmb at the top for everyone but BD having more than 2 of each makes it do stupid things if main skills arent higher order book

[harsh minnow]

anyway... how low can it go

meanwhile

[summer apex]

damn

epc is like 10k+ on eu

thunder slash 4k

[wheat atlas]

We only we had card sets that incentivized using parry/defense skills to guarantee some crits in the next attacks

[upbeat radish]

finally a human price

[polar eagle]

tbh i wish less people would enjoy bd because top 10 wb is free for every class on my server except bd

[azure oxide]

buy all the other stuff i listed too, thanks

[upbeat radish]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-cat-cute-yessir-gif-17449845613192073437

i see u've been gone, bd left at lvl 50

[scarlet iris]

Should I pick purple LF:CDR or purple SC from BP selection

[upbeat radish]

do u have lf

[harsh minnow]

did my first bsh2 and sucked woo 20s for everyone

i didn't die to grandaddy hae at least, just didn't time hmb as well as i should have. and no idea what my dmg was cause no meter but didn't feel like it was too awful

[spice girder]

Hmb timing for mujin dependa on your party

If they have actual hands and can dodge, u dont need hmb or can hmb whenever you like it

I usually save hmb for when mujin started his random hits just like 1st monke boss from ogong

And during his bombard phase... eh up 2 u too

[scarlet iris]

nope

but i could buy either or with gem, just not sure whichone will hold value more

[upbeat radish]

well in that case compare prices i guess, but lf cdr is the core skill, purple storm cleave just adds a bit more dmg over blue

idk how big of an increase it was, maybe u're better off buying blue stacks for budget build

and blue storm cleave is like 300 gems lmao

[desert scroll]

It's about 21% increase with FB badge

(29% without)

[upbeat radish]

i meant purple storm cleave increase from blue, and buy blue storm cleave stacks instead for much cheaper increase

[desert scroll]

stacking SC won't do much before you get purple LF

after that it's the cheapest upgrade, but still not really great

[short harbor]

Get purple LF CDR > EPC > SC

The cheapest "upgrades" in damage just start from Green LF:CDR stacking > Blue SC / Blue EPC > Purple EPC > Purple LF/ SC (Not in order of what gives you the most damage only in order of what's probably cheapest "damage gain" regardless of efficiency or being smart to do

If your wallet is big get the 3 purple skilsl and just stack SC and find yourself a leg sc or gamble one xdd

ye cuz all 3 of those skilsl are roughly 30% of your damage

1 gm stack = 1.8% damage so a blue book is 3.6% damage increase towards a 30% skill which is nothing

that should be 1.08% damage increase per blue book you stack

[harsh minnow]

oof yeah i think i got hit by that, if that's the thing that aerials you 😆 rly gotta learn the rotation and how to tell when certain stuff is happening

[short harbor]

And then assuming you already have green LF CDR books thats 1 stack turning into 6 stacks which is 5 stack net gain which is .3 * 0.09 = 2.7% damage increase which with every subsequent purple book you gain somewhere for any of your skills alters the gain by some odd small % because of where your damage is distributed

But more or less in terms of damage gained efficiency per book stack LFCDR BD is probably one of the worst cuz its not like another class where a singular skill is 60%+

[harsh minnow]

ncsoft rly hates us poor light bds

i just wanna have fun watching my lil dude fly in the air and do big hit

[short harbor]

The only like "saving grace" that exists for LF CDR BD's is that GM stacks affect your badge

so in a sense youre double dipping for going SC stacks

but that's also a moot point cuz that dps gain is

[wheat atlas]

can anyone recommend any KR BDs i can watch?

[scarlet iris]

wat should i be stacking as a lightning build? ld:cdr or sc?

im a bit confused on that rn

[boreal plover]

If you plan on sticking around, or plan on giga whaling, then SC

Otherwise, LF

[scarlet iris]

can u elaborate on that