#Summoner
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did someon got a preview how golden hornet nest work? 0cd and 0 casttime? 😮
gcd still applies
ye, but u skip that cast time
cd still there, just no cast time anymore
ah ok... so at first i stay on sunflower and take the secound purple sunflower out of bp i think
sadly the chests arent accbound so i could farm another opne with an alt
ok ty, anyway what does "focus dmg" mean? every attack what costs focus? Q_Q
if u mean grab with focus dmg
it means: when u grab someone, u took 60% of his focus (6 focus orbs)
it is kinda 'pvp grab' but it doesnt matter which one u gonna use, cuz all of them gives focus regen on hit
this one yes
ahh ok i searched the other one first bcs of the deff debuff
ok ty ❤️
is the hammer def reduc still actually efficient for an purple skill book?
I’m using SunFlower, and I’m struggling to manage my rotation when using the hammer in dungeons—my DPS drops by around 20–30% lol.
Some people can manage
It’s easier with yellows
The question is really whether your personal dps is worth the raid dps added by your debuff
The stronger the party is relative to you, the more raid dps you would provide
i have. i tested rumblebees + speed hammer build
It was like 890 awhile back
They were 3k+ a few days ago in NA
sunflower coin stonks
Goodie. I was back to hornet week ago
might continue play the speed hammer if i have one leg
NA price?
upcoming patch review in TW
That was someone quitting. They couldn't sell it at 3k. They couldn't sell it at 1.5k cause no one wants to play Hornet. At least summoner players.
The writing is on the wall, as they say
In my opinion SF Summoner is a DPS bulid..no point of losing dps while hammer
Unga Bunga mentality
Def hammer buff is too strong to ignore for summoners. Any summoner not running it is inting their party
and i will die on that hill 
Tell them where I'm buried.
We play the most underused class with a crazy amount of misinformation that the player base as a whole buys into
summoner is a grossly op class as long as all their tools are actually utilized, and understood.
def shred hammer is borderline useless if the summoner is the one doing top damage
cant go wrong with 48gm damage hammer though
If you're hornet.
If you're on sunflower, and focus becomes an issue while you hammer, then you're an hybrid and you lose on both fronts.
sunflower might have easier time with focus tbh
Not if you hammer. However it might change if you're full on legendaries. That I don't know. On purples you will suffer.
🥀 full leg but imagine you dont crit like for 20s and no daybreak
aaaah my favourite build def down 48gm
wait what's that 19/18, anyway can't be that important
or u could be normal and save 8K dg
-Venomous and rely on prickly I guess
Maybe just lunge, if cat doesn't fly
End sunflower probably drops hammer anyways, poison buffs with daze skill
this means you use your 4 to get to 5 stack so it will be on cd realy often depends on the dungeon and party but missing shrouds timings to have half uptime on def is what i would say is trolling
and is some cases there is not enough yellow to reset
Oh I forgot prickly does 4stack not 5
would be goated
I used to have these 4 books back in BSH for def down hammer as sunflower
prickly + lunge ~ hammer first time
Doom and root ~ hammer when it's falling off
Repeat
Back then we didn't have GM's so wonder if it would be any easier to do now
But my summs dismantled
I will consider using F doom n root, which has 18s CD with 5 stacks of poison, get rid of LB and 1
its not high uptime and u're potentially giving up DnG's honey, but it works
I play hornet but still dont really use dng. The animation, the non target cast...dont really into it
That dng is not worth for hornet AFAIK too clunky and long to use. At least for hornet you'd have to cast at least 12 hornet under the buff window to justify using it
Idk if u can say the same for sunflower
But stopping a full second dps for the benefit of honey only seems bad
At least drain and hive swarm are faster and give u something else at the same time..
once u are 48 dng is bad, you dont need the focus and the cast time is too long it would be better to stack up an other photosynthesis
non target ability on F feels so bad
you can go for a vine whip 18 and dnr when you are in leg book territory waiting for your second leg vine to go 30
i bought a dng for hornet but cant slot it yet
thinking on honey extension on crit being worth
- extra dmg on honey coming up
honey on drain ends up lasting like 12-15s i think
anyone know what honey does on hornet?
Yeah i wouldnt spec dng on hornet for current patch. We need to see the numbers for the buff which is hopefully next patch and figure out if its worth. Having dng/drain/hive next patch could easily be the way to go if its good
Extra ap scaling (more dmg)
Should be a line of dmg under the first line saying how much if u check the tooltip
iirc my hornets on dummy hit 48k base crit, 54k with honey buff
i see thx
I’m using DnR now and it works fine, even better than prickly and lmb
But when I get 30 GM of vine or find leg book - I will skip DnR and use only vine whip
meow :3
Open it??
😭
wish I can have it
TW unfortunately
do you have any info about the boost they will do in the next patch ? I remmber they said they will boost it's boff ( honey)
sum buff patch you mean?
let me check
yeah still no info about it yet. Still waiting for the full patch note
@sour quest
I sold mine for friend for 40k, imo 50k is best what u can ask/got
wait, that's cheap. Should be around 90k average in TW, core skill like sunflower is 140k
😭
me still no money to get one
I asked in the game and most people told me it's between 60k-85k but can I find someone who will pay that !!
if not mistaken trash books are 30k-40k and this one is not trash
I may use it if they boost it with next maintenance
as now it's bad compared to SF
🤔
supersunflower has 0.4s cooldown while this one has 0.8s
and it hit aoe not single target
I thought Queen bee will save it but it turn out that 48gm is worse compared to 48gm sunflower
yup, it's only meant for support build
but 48gm queen bee saves you from the crit dependence thing if you were using purple hornet
for leg hornet, 48gm doesnt matter anymore
😭
Yeah it is one of the main skills
But who will pay more? I can bet no one.
Even EP Lynn was selling for 60k at the end cuz he didn’t had buyers
Same with Wind Sever, Pulverize (50k), storm cleave
Eu is cheap. We are poor and less whales also population is lower than others.
When Triguun got hornet like 3-4 weeks ago he didn’t had any offers or low one, so he just salvaged it xD
I was about to do the same but Tatze wanted to buy for 40k
if any summoner want it for 40k tell me plz
time to salvage the 2nd hornet 
If only you were in NA

it's gone immediately
was it so cheap ?
i could not sell it for days for more
so not really
40k is the usual price for salvaging legendaries
unles you find someone really desperate
Me but I'm in NA 😭
yeah the one who bought it was warlock 🥲
At this point either finding purple WTDs first or leg hornet will determine what I main going forward
Ppl who buy gems from nc are just wasting money
Playing bns neo is like an abusive relationship
🤔 sunflower + 48gm def down hammer
apply 50% def down in 20s with just one stack of poison. So truely with enough leg, no point in playing hornet
lol it’s supposed to apply poison at 48 so you wont need any other poison books
Dont even need to have 1 stack of poison on boss to start the reaction?
summoner bugs: yes
put it on the list of summoner bugs that wont ever get fixed
it still need at least one stack of poison to have the buff, doesnt it?
You linked an entire 2h stream.
just pick and watch any moments she was in combat 😭
Idk it wasn't very clear lol
bug and unclear
In yast, it said it still need one poison stack
then hammer add another one
It doesn't say poison required to stack
it is nice but pls this dude has insane stats and gms, he hits twice dmg compared to mine on asura lol
🥀 wish
mean while Im doing like 25k on Be Ido
me just a poor cat chilling in game
😭 blud should be playing in KR server by now
That man is 4 major content patches ahead already
is this tw top1 destroyer??
should be him
crazy af
havent seen anyone pass him yet
he just chilling at the musin tower and craft his gears through out the day
very entertainment to watch
I'm sure he crafts it piece by piece.
At 5k accuracy, the target has to leave the country cause it will destroy an entire lineage.
😭
lol hammer's prolly working as intended then
🤔
question, not that relevant to summoner but. In Sundered Nexus. How come sometimes those falling rockets explore and cause earthquake?
Happen to me sometime, just dont know why
I did, it just that sometimes it works sometime it doesnt
They land on each other
it just explores after the first one came down
If the small red markers overlap, I believe?
nah, it impossible to make it overlap while u were holding button to go backward
it happens especially at phase 60/30 and at the second rocket launch
I mean these
It won't if they are fully landed. But sometimes when the marker dont lure it right. It will explore sooner and cause earthquake. That is the part I was confusing. What factor did the marker do wrong that cause it explore
🥀
I lured it the same way as always. Not always but after the first rocket hit the ground It just explore 😭 try to figure it out why
Hmm... Are you reaching berserk state, i think he makes rockets explode instantly when he reaches soft enrage
Thats the only thing I can think of
happened to me during the first week
Oh? Is that even a thing?
Is the rocket just exploding and doing a Nova
Or is it actual earthquake with debris
nah, not the ring jumping AOE. When the boss goes into the phase, it launches rockets into the marker. At the moment the first one hit the ground. It just explores and cause earthquake
- Boss launchs rockets
- Somehow rocket explores and cause earthquake
- Three man die 😭
Is it dropped on boss on top of melee ? (I have no clue if thats a thing)
Nope, it dropped on the edge of the map like we always lure
so you guys havent seen this?
huh
😭
It just happened to me sometimes
Might be a bug then. When Im baiting. I just go in front of the tank near melee, and start backpedaling as soon as I see the target mark on me refresh
and I make a straight line up untill wall
boss marks twice before any drills fall, i only got the random earthquake when i didn't move between the markings
no idea if it actually has something to do with that tho 🤷♂️
Only things that cause quakes is if drills are too close or boss reaches 6 charges from the adds. Ive seen some people get some lag stutters and drop a drill accidentally too close to another without realising it
Is this consider too close?
no
Well, I space them wider than that
and earthquake still happens
Let me do a record when I have the chance to go SN
maybe if the red aoe that clown does during the drills being dropping hitting them can cause it too 
i havent seen drill 1 causing it though
If you do not kill the rockets on the edge, they will shake the map and dmg you.
tHAT only happens after all the drills come down tho, so thats not it in his case
its happened to me once but no idea how it happened
first rocket drops and instant earthquake
we just reset and I did it again just fine no problems
I just assumed it was lag and moved on
What a troll
yup
Me and my guys truly spent time to test and play with it yesterday 😭
I think it because at least two drills were overlapping and caused earthquake
But here is the interesting part
If the marked person moves only just after the boss finish its drill launching animation
Those drills might overlapping each others while in the air and not yet fully hit the ground. That's why altho only one drill hit the ground but still cause earthquake
I tried to move sooner like after the boss just begin to shoot. It worked fine
🤔
🤔 The drill instantly kill me (marker) if it fail along with some dudes stand next to me altho they are 200k hp
they changed it hammer is back ?
Works the same as before this patch
ff
gg. summoners got nothing out of this patch.
use to solo
How does shroud for party work? I dont seem to get it to activate on full party
you need it to be blue skill
you can use the AOE for party after using the normal one
Does it need to be Seed Shroud, Seed Shroud Overflow or Seed Shroud Counter?
only those .. the counter one dose not have it
Okay I have overflow... Will try to test it again... basically double click shroud skill
yes
Thanks for the help!! Will try it with my friends tonight.
yw
Our shroud shares a cooldown with sin shroud
And that party cd is different based on who used it last
And it also doesn't match the skill cd
wts server na
Oh there we go, working as intended
What is?
Friend req sent so i cant give u a C/O
i sent u a friend req
is there any summoner with sunflower want to quit? I want to buy 5xpurp for 37.5k or 7500 gems each one
EU
sunflower with 30gm hammer can do a bit
Even if I quit I can't sell my books - stuck with bound ones only. 🥲
Anyone buying Leg Hornet Nest?
NA WTS
damn there is a set lol.
Leg Hornet Nest + Def Reduction Hammer.
GG I wish
@severe cargo i belive u got a ice rain, still intrested ?
There's still a 400ms gcd
-# Unless that changed
Yeah I know
XD
I am selling it for 100k solid, just let me know if anyone. Might salvage again after few days
so far 1 Intended buyer but need time
was not 0.8s ?
if it the same cooldown as super sunflower I will regret sold it
0.5 sec cast to instant is huge XD
do you how much it become? like 0.6s or lower??
Oh it says .6 gcd
WTS everything (NA summoner) all characters - Nisaba
Not you, Nisaba 
WTB Rumblebee / Strike speed increase 700 each
i had to do it..
No! Summoner players shouldn’t quit at all
Our population is so small, we can’t just give up :/
Better than kfm
Nah, let them quit, I want some sunflowers that won't break the bank.
more smns will be a more active market and less people to gouge us
hi all. I'm not a Summoner but I'm just bumping this. Your insight and comments help a lot. Please boost this post to the sky and do the 5 min survey! https://discord.com/channels/1164688788086345830/1428620869089099888
i respect the effort and i would take the survey but at this point i think there's no hope left
kr is going to do what they keep doing and both nca and us players just have to pick the crumbs 
anything we try to do just simply will be ignored
Yo pros whats the best build for support summoner
leg sunflower, leg hammer def down, leg besties and 30k supreme force
Is leg besties important?
🥀 Yes if you wanna go for the "best" support build
Yellow besties is more of a qol for the summoner
removes the hp cost and heals you instead
It feels great to have. Even if your party doesn’t really take damage you can still give them focus every 24 seconds. Makes for faster runs overall than stacking 1 more purple main damage book
I thought it was too so I tested with a bd in garden. Favorite skill now never removing
But people can be at max focus already when you cast and not get the benefit so it’s sometimes redundant
Focus for more sunflowers!
I sold it for cheap XD
Good skill, but ppl don't recognize how great it is, so I couldn't sell high price at all
HP increase = dmg increase (plus, later 48GS GG crazy for 1 min buff)
if you want to sell sunflower for 7500 I can buy 5
WTB Rumblebee / Strike speed increase 700 each
you can gift me leggy SF for cant give up 
we can organize "Kappucinio Help nights" 😄
Tarmiel is quitting it seems. Rip.
It is what it is
meow :3
rip
some of the people that I know were also quitting the game

lol the game shows no signs of acknowledging player feedback
Ncwest can only do so much
Even when the patch was aimed at them

Yeah it seems like a weird patch for everyone to quit on
But it is still just the same pattern of how content has been
Na wont be clearing lair till christmas at this point
almost everyone in my general discord for TW players that I knew. Have quit already. They said the game was boring and exhausting
even some dudes that are truly p2w. They sealed their gears and sold out
What's the point at being the best at a game nobody's playing
🥀 sad to here. Most jump out and currently waiting for AION 2
I heard the monetization for aion2 is crazy too
^ this here 
i've already been warned about nclowns but i didn't know it was this bad
I was playing live for few years so I knew it already but I’m naive
Also I just like this game :/
damn i love sunflower on my SUM
To be fair I think neo was handled way worse than live ever was
gotta fund aeon 2 the game
One day you’re gonna transmute the golden!
lol man i don't have leg frag in my SUM anymore
More bp’s and more hajoons. You’ll have pages in 3 more months trust!
i dont wanna make a flood for what i am doing, thanks for quick sells, rest of the gear is still for sale, dont be shy to ask prices. eu server.
NA - WTS purple sunflower
WTB - Rumblebee, Strike(speed) 700 each
im out, gl on rest lads, peace.
Is DT that trash ? I though the buff was huge and they can def down too
nah, heavenly slash still best
then puncture
some top tier BMs in TW start to play lighting BM, thunder drake slash
wts EU
it's just game is not worth to play much unles you have perfect group. Ppl are quitting a lot bc there is no management/balance
true
gradually qutting even with some whales
There's mismanagement!
not sure fully on the math, but from the dt bms i've played with it looks pretty substantial. the 18gm searing slash is also pretty good, its an additional 25% shred on top of the 15% which i dont think people realize. If you get leg searing you get 50% shred, and that coupled with smn shred gives us 100% def reduction since all of it stacks
unfortunately the bm one isnt 100% uptime though. but from playing with 18 gm searing bms (no leg) the dps bump to party is still pretty nice
only searing slash is neededd
not DT
just use searing slash alongs with heavenly slash then you get def down and dmg also
🥀 or just go for lighting draw for massive dmg
tw server is weird dude
#ncsoft #bladeandsoulneo #blademaster #블소네오 #劍靈
🥀 if it exist, it's playable
okay
Wtb rumblebees 700, strike speed 700
wts besties leg
na
15 ?? iirc 70 gave 16ap
70-71-72-73-74 gives 16 ap
idk why 75 only 15
but it is what it is
road to 2k ;c
you want to do true timestream ?
Bumping #💬︱neo-chat message
WTS soulcore for summoner
EU server
WTB rumblebee 700 each 😉
they bossted rumblebee too .. I though no one using it
well that's not much of a buff? purple hornet
poison flower too, sounds like barely a buff
just wanna try. No one using so lol
WTS - NA - PMO
need to try tds from BM lol
BT impact, yast is so back
(for how long tho)
Wish they'd open source their parsing tools
yast will be shut down.
hornet need boost for it's cooldown it should be at least 0.6s in the end it's not aoe skill
and it's 48 gm is not good as sunflower they need to boost it too
48gm is literally useless if u have legendary hornet
Its a guarenteed crit. I would still take it
Might not matter on WB but on high lvl content will show more
anyone gets Rumblebees and strike, don't salvage and sell me to 700 please XD.
I don't buy scam price. Rather stick with sunflower
I know some guys in TW who is using this build but in the end, strike is the main source of damge altho the new soulbadge didnt even enhance it so Im very confuse why do they have to buff rumblebee
the cat does 80% of your damage
XD seems fun. hammer hammer
guaranteed crit is nice, but they really should buff up queen bee a little bit. Add a small extra damage mod and make it not cost focus imo 
Agree, not that much affective with leg hornet
mean while other classes can increase their crit rate from 20% up to 100%
Youre right. Im just saying its not useless
i mean its 1 crit every 3 hornet

at least make it a buff that stacks up, so when you dont roll your crit% chance, the stack is used
but NC
agreed. queen bee needs to go back in the oven to cook a bit more
Too sad games gonna die before we see the gloriousness of Queen Bee
I actually expected Queen bee to be an extra attack that crits. So every 3 hits, you hit twice.
an extra hornet every 3rd would be sick too
I though the same
I think they'll just keep the servers running
wait this is such a good take
meow :3
how much for purple sunny?
Oh its been awhile so. I think sold
still selling this EU
WTS Summoner Hornet Legendary NA PM your offer
If anyone on EU gets purple sunflowers for sale, scream at me. (We could figure something out)
Who be selling these, scream at me, let's get a sale.
No
🥀
NA WTS Legendary Sunflower (Taking Offers, c/o 120k. Taking offer until tomorrow. Processing time can be discussed)
[reserved]
I can sell on EU if good offer 
Ew gross
WTS Summoner Sunflower Legendary NA PM your offer
@lament skiff wb is in 9mins
I have returned from le nap
Mostly I was just hungry
And how was it?? I miss wb so much, skipped whole weekend cuz of work ;/
the 10g is very helpful
new box is so bad smh
new wb
and gold
i always got blue card now
i ahd like 2x 10g
and before almsot every wb i had 10g, sometimes even 100
The extra g will go away
0.001 😂 aka 1/100000
form 60% of 10g to 40%
materials box replaces thoes 20% and it's not the 10 materials it's 5
2% for 100g
it would have been good if u got 20 green cards +2 blue cards +10 material box +gold 10-100/wivern/prpl cards/skill
nerf for top 10 buff for 11+
NA WTS purple sunflower
Greetings, still WTB Legendary Hornet Nest EU. PMO please. Thanks ❤️ .
The last one I turned into 4pages 
I know 😂 😻.
People straight up kill them
They're supposed to get the HP down. Wait for parasites to finish animation and they create puddle
But they die too quick
And can't finish the animation/cast for puddle
Been a problem forever
Oh, you're not supposed to kill them?
Yeah I remember in moonwater they were spawning the puddles way before they died, then they just poofed. But we had a lot less dps back then
The fix is prolly for ncsoft to multiply the HP of parasites
But knowing ncsoft they never will
Also some classes can bug out the knock back by staying in combat and spamming some abilities
Like on warlock I would spam block and put out my sanctum then continue blocking to stay in combat and I would avoid getting yeeted
I haven't figured how to cheese on fm tho
Do more dps and skip the mech?
its awesome, 100% uptime and u dont have to sweat
meganura is kinda bugged, sometimes there is puddle sometimes not but u can just do long jump to avoid purple attack, idk if u were playing on live but it was very common to use
just lose combat > jump and fly untill attack ends, so u wont be pushed away from boss
Needing an applicator is sadge
yeah, also i though it will be poison refresh on 5 stacks but no.. :<
it is what it is, maybe someday they will change it
probably best to drop prickly and grab venothorn
so you stack 5-> hammer -> lmb ? or dont care about poison scaling ?
i hate having to lmb with the gcd being shared with SF i use to poison-pin and def down during exile time
Is the 5 poison scaling the damage that high?
no, for 48 gm u need only 1 stack of poison
so i just lmb > c
c gives u additional stack every time untill 5
when 5 and u press c < stacks gone and i have to use lmb again
Seems like the best way is purple cheer up with 3 gold speed hammers so you don’t need any poison books at all. But then you lose besties feels bad
"c gives u additional stack every time untill 5" You're saying it gives you poison stacks upon use?
and 10% def reduction less
yes
So the tooltip doesn't say that.
but when u have 4 stacks and u use def reduction (it should be 5 but stacks are gone)
it's OP as huge. 😉 love it
I wanna see Ganzi’s yeti damage!
i could play meme cat build but i really like to play sunflower
Ganzi dps is good as well lol
only problem with def red hammer is that it takes quite a lot of slots, so you need a few leg sunflowers

tbh sunflower & Hornet case, better use 2 or 3 leg strike(def reduction)
idk who would put XD
that is
awesome
🙂
u r the true sum
i need 3 more legs < 1 def reduction and 2 leg sunflowers
give me sunflowers
also now that you're here
how do people grab on yeti
i dont have insta cc anymore
so my cat gets cc-ed

oh
Yeti opens the cc bar after 2 yellow attacks. You can press Q preemptively to make it cc immune
yeah
cuz no book for q gives nothing for cat
only def ;/
it is kinda sad
also i miss iframe e for summoner+cat
idk why they didnt add it on neo
we all do 
we lack of iframes so much
Ah yeah. I had 2 destroyer in party so I put the book q on for their defense scaling
yday i was running yeti without hmb so i changed daybreak for solidarity and it was nice
but i had some focus problems sometimes
lvl up tomorrow

damn. wonder how much per book in EU.
NA damn expensive so. We can't do this. We decided Rumblebee bonkbonk
that's the best way to build whale SUM
not much tbh
wow
nowdays it's like 40-45k
wow
ye, trash books for 35k, sunflower can go at max price 50k imo
but we dont have whale summoners to pay for it
tbh
i mean, many summoners quit
wb ranking looks weird
with xp badges i'm doing like 110-115k sometimes more
so strong
damnnnn whale sunflower OP
way stronger than my KFM lol
i know that there is at least 1 more summoner who'll be back in a few weeks
so that's nice 
yeah
but still eu lack of summoners
many ppl dont even expect to have summoner in pt and they dont know how to play with us most of the time, only our main groups/clan mates
NA too expensive
i think im naga ready
i can't wait tbh to try it
especially with 76lvl, i will try to push atleast half of 77 till naga arrive
so with leg strike(def red)+ 48GS, how does the poison stack remain? pickly to stack 5 and then 50% is always up? @spiral dagger
yeah but your c destroy it anyway
i see
so it is hard to keep 5 poison and def reduction
so just keeping def only mostly?
it gives u more dmg boost than poison
ssf gives u 0.7x dmg more only
with naga patch it will be 0.9x
but also basic dmg will be more so w/e
from 6.5 to 7.4
yeah
0.9 looks nice but i prefer to boost my party with +15k dps per person, than only mine dps
overall def reduction is better
yeah u can simply party up with rumblebee builds XD
hahhaa yeah
i know it is nice, i saw some streams from kr with bonk bonk build
but for me it is kinda too late
Rumblebee build party contribution is insane
i have 8 leg books atm and when boss is moving
it sucks
on sf u can just stay and dps xd
every 18 sec, u use lmb and c
or just spam c for additional dmg
cuz really, def reduction hits are nice
yeah good
55.4% sunflower crit-rate 
yeah..
i wish to have 80-90% like kfms

idk why they can't give us like atleast 10% crit rate more
on gm stacks
or something..
the flat crit-rates from cards are gonna save us
nah....
only longgui left
lunar pain hugefor kfm
i dont think i'm the best person to ask for this

my 3 gubongs are so ready tho
it gives u critical dmg
wtb Jinsoyun/Hong
wtb also
;/
waiting for hong
;/
but for now im gonna keep all cards
for collections
cuz i have some what will be needed but not all xD
ap+def
not all probably but still something xD
do we have a complete list of the sets?
i dont think so
I lived to see 3 summoners on the same pt and each one with a different build
from all i read
0-> C -> 1 no def
1 -> C -> 2
4-> C -> 0
5-> C -> 0
i would still use pirkly/DnR, you have 3 sec to def down and it stack 5 poison after, wait 10s, pirkly+C if u get a reset
if you dont have a reset maby u got a pin so no down time
if no pin no reset 3s down time on def
DnR is less poison more def uptime
(0.9+7.4)/7.4=1.12
poison is 12% dps upgrade
better than going from GM48 to 66 or from 102 to 138
smol summoner
speed hammer no drain in case u find it interesting
Like this, I think
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testing ground when ...
oooohhh when u said it dont reset poison i though it would do
3stack 2s left -> C-> 4 stack 2s left
so you just have to lmb every 1min unless cat cant re-apply
huge
would still use DnR tho
hm, dnr and 48gm
maybe i will try it
i will do some tests tomorrow cuz day off
if u have any ideas what to test i can do this, i have many summoners books still xD
10/18s poison uptime with a 12% dmg increase form 5stack should be 6.6% dmg increase (instead of 2% with the 10/60s uptime) only a boost in solo content, might be clutch on serpent
i belive
okay.. lets see this tomorrow xD
gn tysm for the vid

wait, that actually weird how 4 stacks of poison got pop into thin air
i don't think you can miss pierces defense and parry skills
I can't believe .. now Hornet is cheaper than Rumblebees !!
🥀 both hornet and rumblebee are 400 diamonds here
only def down hammer is 1200 and sunflower is 7k
WTS purple sunflower
why are you playing in korean lol
The font is better
More importantly how do I play in korean
Currently in the 20ish level of story content, and I was wondering how much further I have to push in order to get a skill book so my Familiar can taunt? It's got about 3x my HP... Why is the squishy taking all the aggro? ^^;
You won't receive one yet.
I suggest that you level manually up to 44. Then go back to character selection and Boost that 44 lvl to 45.
You'll then receive free items and you would have learned your class in the meantime.
Ah. Thanks for the heads up.
If you Boost a character directly to 45 from 0 you would still receive the free items but you wouldn't know how to play and you'll come back here saying " Step bro I'm stuck ".
Also the Boost is free, regardless at what level you wanna do it.
just ask and dont waste 8hours of ur life
Yeah, part of the reason why I'm iffy on games including level boosters like that... You get players coming in at high levels, but have never played the class before, so they've got no idea what they're doing.
As to why I suggested the 44 manuela then boost to get free things.
dont suffer through the rumble bee phase
Also depending on what server you're playing, try and get yourself into a clan.
Information is key in the game, so you do not wanna waste time with this and that and go directly to the source.
(maint is now in EU, so best of luck after)
I'm in NA.
Not sure how long Maintenance normally lasts, as I'm usually stuck helping my dad with projects on my days off from work. Been a while since I've had a day to myself.
#💻︱server-maintenance message
Thanks... And eww... 4 hours...
They huff and puff and fix "something". 
NEW EVENT DUDE
If it's a Kill Asura, it will involve everybody. If not, brother ew.

Maybe after the 2nd yellow dg
I vaguely recall an event for running all 4 blues in moonwater
carry me if u can paired with a leader-board is a weird combo
🫡 hornest
Doesnt it get a buff too
until you hit gm30 on def down it's a better support
after that you can perma def down witch ever playstile you choose soo...
- 50% def down for 6 is cool
- 50% def down for 4 😴
Just get more yellows
Ask new Fusel
I saw him few days ago he was trying to sell it but probably 0 offers
I do see him log in after wb
Just msg Zachiko or Deso Dragoncall

🥀 hornet pvp spec only
yeah, still but gradually dead ngl
some of the whales just selling their accounts
wow
still playable tho, found a match in within 10s of waiting only
yellow skills are just another tier QoL
I think once cat has 48GS strike speed, unkillable cat lol
with 30gm speed hammer, the cat shouldnt be CCed at all. But it still get knocked out, stunned and various cc altho I was spamming very hard with the hammer
dont know how the game work
Even the TW whales are leaving?
yup, some of them
anyone interested for legendary book vine whip ?
just want to sell the trash so i can do some gear upgrades
unlimited dase sounds cool for lunar /beastbog
meow :3
who else has leg sunflower on eu?
me, triguun, emraell, fusel and?
ahh, shaaresh
so i think only 5 ppl has it
14 leg sf in total lol
You probably won't find any sunflowers for sale.
Wth... NC suddenly put the bug for strike hammer
It is slower
boost speed effect suddenly doesn't work wtf
I did experience it somehow back then
Was like because you lock some of your cat skills?
@naive jackal
That's the risk most of us took 😄
if SF are 50k and trash 35k+500g why gamble
WTB Gold Bestie x2 NA
cuz only 5 ppl has sunflower on eu and probably no1 will sell it untill quit or smth
how much is the gold price?
"He offer me" 😄
ok, some guy wanted to sell it for 55k for him
then he stop reply
i will
or buy purple books and pray
i did 23 attempts before first leg
and it was when books were 5x more expensive than now
u can find purple books for 250 divines
its all about "gamba"
this game is gamba
no matter what and where
even dungs are gamba, some ppl will drop 5 leg chests
some ppl wont even see it for the whole game
this transmute system for leg books is even worse than trove
the lostninja dude have seen 3 and got a solo one
i even know ppl who drop leg chest on mc
yeh the bot drop
we know ...
aint got time to do 1111 garden run to maby drop a box
just be whale enoughj to do asura solo
in 7 min
i could do asura solo when i had vine whip
now with def reduction i lack some dmg
but im doing garden in like 10 min
u lose dmg with defence?
wait for buff and voila
i mean vine whip is also good dmg resource
much better than def reduction (i mean dmg skill)
also i had poison like 99% uptime
12 sec cd/ 10 sec poison
so i was hitting more but in dungs with party
def reduction is crazy.
my friends on yeti now has like +15/20k dps more
per run per person
the ninja nerf from this patch hurt my soul i dont have motivation to do more than 1 solo garden run for daily
I follow Korea Top 1 Sum and shes using whip
whip is awesome, i like to use it also it is useful on pvx/msp
but im playing with my clan and i want to clear content with them
you have exactly same char as her xD
with this def reduction we are able to clear naga i believe, while with whip only 2 or maybe 3 ppl from my clan can handle it
anyway i dont have the budget to chose what i ll play if i get vint it ll be vine ect.
ye, i had to reroll my leg vine whip into def reduction
but it was worth
cuz from 1 book i made 2
i had 2 frags before
i allready clear yeti with -50 defence and its big dps boost 4 sure
vine 5 frags > rumblebees > salvaged into 5 frags > so i had 8 in total
10 12k plus
and made 2x def reduction
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