#Summoner

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spiral dagger
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lucky shot on stream

slow jasper
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wish

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donate when

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🥀

dry haven
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did someon got a preview how golden hornet nest work? 0cd and 0 casttime? 😮

zinc vault
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gcd still applies

spiral dagger
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ye, but u skip that cast time

slow jasper
dry haven
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ah ok... so at first i stay on sunflower and take the secound purple sunflower out of bp i think

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sadly the chests arent accbound so i could farm another opne with an alt

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ok ty, anyway what does "focus dmg" mean? every attack what costs focus? Q_Q

spiral dagger
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if u mean grab with focus dmg

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it means: when u grab someone, u took 60% of his focus (6 focus orbs)

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it is kinda 'pvp grab' but it doesnt matter which one u gonna use, cuz all of them gives focus regen on hit

dry haven
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this one yes

dry haven
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ok ty ❤️

white remnant
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is the hammer def reduc still actually efficient for an purple skill book?
I’m using SunFlower, and I’m struggling to manage my rotation when using the hammer in dungeons—my DPS drops by around 20–30% lol.

lament skiff
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Some people can manage

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It’s easier with yellows

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The question is really whether your personal dps is worth the raid dps added by your debuff

severe cargo
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The stronger the party is relative to you, the more raid dps you would provide

dawn thunder
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i have. i tested rumblebees + speed hammer build

maiden flint
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i scammed myself i guess? how did it drop to 1.5

gusty kiln
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It was like 890 awhile back

severe cargo
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They were 3k+ a few days ago in NA

maiden flint
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that's EU price, bought at 2.6k like a week ago

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were always 3k+ before

small gorge
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sunflower coin stonks

slow jasper
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might continue play the speed hammer if i have one leg

slow jasper
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upcoming patch review in TW

proud field
spiral dagger
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not much summoners left anyway

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so it is what it is

lament skiff
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The writing is on the wall, as they say

severe cargo
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Let's say I caught a purple hornet being listed for 50

crisp stag
spiral dagger
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yes

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we sunflowers are dps wh0res ;/

severe cargo
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Unga Bunga mentality

lament skiff
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Naw

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I don’t care I’m still free

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You can’t take my def down hammer from me

solemn oar
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Def hammer buff is too strong to ignore for summoners. Any summoner not running it is inting their party

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and i will die on that hill ASPitouThumbsUp

proud field
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Tell them where I'm buried.

solemn oar
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We play the most underused class with a crazy amount of misinformation that the player base as a whole buys into SAD summoner is a grossly op class as long as all their tools are actually utilized, and understood.

small gorge
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def shred hammer is borderline useless if the summoner is the one doing top damage

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cant go wrong with 48gm damage hammer though

proud field
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If you're on sunflower, and focus becomes an issue while you hammer, then you're an hybrid and you lose on both fronts.

small gorge
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sunflower might have easier time with focus tbh

proud field
slow jasper
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🥀 full leg but imagine you dont crit like for 20s and no daybreak

outer hamlet
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aaaah my favourite build def down 48gm
wait what's that 19/18, anyway can't be that important

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or u could be normal and save 8K dg

maiden flint
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-Venomous and rely on prickly I guess

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Maybe just lunge, if cat doesn't fly

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End sunflower probably drops hammer anyways, poison buffs with daze skill

outer hamlet
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this means you use your 4 to get to 5 stack so it will be on cd realy often depends on the dungeon and party but missing shrouds timings to have half uptime on def is what i would say is trolling

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and is some cases there is not enough yellow to reset

maiden flint
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Oh I forgot prickly does 4stack not 5

outer hamlet
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would be goated

severe cargo
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I used to have these 4 books back in BSH for def down hammer as sunflower

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prickly + lunge ~ hammer first time

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Doom and root ~ hammer when it's falling off
Repeat

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Back then we didn't have GM's so wonder if it would be any easier to do now

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But my summs dismantled

slow jasper
maiden flint
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its not high uptime and u're potentially giving up DnG's honey, but it works

slow jasper
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I play hornet but still dont really use dng. The animation, the non target cast...dont really into it

severe cargo
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That dng is not worth for hornet AFAIK too clunky and long to use. At least for hornet you'd have to cast at least 12 hornet under the buff window to justify using it

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Idk if u can say the same for sunflower

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But stopping a full second dps for the benefit of honey only seems bad

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At least drain and hive swarm are faster and give u something else at the same time..

outer hamlet
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once u are 48 dng is bad, you dont need the focus and the cast time is too long it would be better to stack up an other photosynthesis
non target ability on F feels so bad
you can go for a vine whip 18 and dnr when you are in leg book territory waiting for your second leg vine to go 30

maiden flint
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i bought a dng for hornet but cant slot it yet

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thinking on honey extension on crit being worth

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  • extra dmg on honey coming up
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honey on drain ends up lasting like 12-15s i think

brittle glen
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anyone know what honey does on hornet?

solemn oar
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Yeah i wouldnt spec dng on hornet for current patch. We need to see the numbers for the buff which is hopefully next patch and figure out if its worth. Having dng/drain/hive next patch could easily be the way to go if its good

severe cargo
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Should be a line of dmg under the first line saying how much if u check the tooltip

maiden flint
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iirc my hornets on dummy hit 48k base crit, 54k with honey buff

brittle glen
spiral dagger
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But when I get 30 GM of vine or find leg book - I will skip DnR and use only vine whip

hard hamlet
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meow :3

outer hamlet
spiral dagger
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Wtb vine whip - legendary and purples

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Can someone drop lege chest on EU? Please

spiral dagger
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Open it??

lament skiff
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It's from the wiki, I cant

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Also, I gave up genshin

spiral dagger
olive flicker
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how much is the fair price for this?

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EU

slow jasper
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wish I can have it

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TW unfortunately

olive flicker
olive flicker
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yes the one that will make daybreak cost 0 mana

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it still cost 2 mana here in EU

slow jasper
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let me check

slow jasper
olive flicker
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almost a month and still no news about it !!

spiral dagger
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I sold mine for friend for 40k, imo 50k is best what u can ask/got

slow jasper
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😭

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me still no money to get one

olive flicker
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I asked in the game and most people told me it's between 60k-85k but can I find someone who will pay that !!
if not mistaken trash books are 30k-40k and this one is not trash
I may use it if they boost it with next maintenance
as now it's bad compared to SF

slow jasper
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🤔

olive flicker
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supersunflower has 0.4s cooldown while this one has 0.8s

and it hit aoe not single target
I thought Queen bee will save it but it turn out that 48gm is worse compared to 48gm sunflower

slow jasper
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but 48gm queen bee saves you from the crit dependence thing if you were using purple hornet

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for leg hornet, 48gm doesnt matter anymore

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😭

spiral dagger
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Yeah it is one of the main skills

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But who will pay more? I can bet no one.

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Even EP Lynn was selling for 60k at the end cuz he didn’t had buyers

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Same with Wind Sever, Pulverize (50k), storm cleave

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Eu is cheap. We are poor and less whales also population is lower than others.

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When Triguun got hornet like 3-4 weeks ago he didn’t had any offers or low one, so he just salvaged it xD

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I was about to do the same but Tatze wanted to buy for 40k

slow jasper
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goodie, need to see his newest clip with leg hornet

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🥀

zinc vault
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you wont even find people to buy it for 50k

olive flicker
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if any summoner want it for 40k tell me plz

zinc vault
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time to salvage the 2nd hornet bns_peace_smile

olive flicker
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it's gone immediately
was it so cheap ?

zinc vault
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i could not sell it for days for more

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so not really

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40k is the usual price for salvaging legendaries

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unles you find someone really desperate

severe cargo
olive flicker
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yeah the one who bought it was warlock 🥲

zinc vault
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stay strong

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one day a hornet will spawn on na

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🙏

severe cargo
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At this point either finding purple WTDs first or leg hornet will determine what I main going forward

spiral dagger
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@zinc vault did u bought it?

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Have u vine whip for me??

zinc vault
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not me

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my gems are here by 22:40

spiral dagger
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???

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U weird

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Dude

severe cargo
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72 hours gems hold

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12 hours auctions btw

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NCSOFT's master plan

zinc vault
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we're all clean here

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no g2g gems to be found

paper trench
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Ppl who buy gems from nc are just wasting money

lament skiff
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Playing bns neo is like an abusive relationship

zinc vault
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i never said that i'm not stupid

slow jasper
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🤔 sunflower + 48gm def down hammer

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apply 50% def down in 20s with just one stack of poison. So truely with enough leg, no point in playing hornet

lament skiff
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lol it’s supposed to apply poison at 48 so you wont need any other poison books

severe cargo
lament skiff
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Dunno, it doesn’t work in na/tw/jp

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Not even sure if it works in kr lmao

maiden flint
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summoner bugs: yes

solemn oar
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put it on the list of summoner bugs that wont ever get fixed

slow jasper
proud field
slow jasper
lament skiff
slow jasper
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In yast, it said it still need one poison stack

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then hammer add another one

lament skiff
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It doesn't say poison required to stack

spiral dagger
slow jasper
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mean while Im doing like 25k on Be Ido

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me just a poor cat chilling in game

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😭 blud should be playing in KR server by now

solemn oar
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That man is 4 major content patches ahead already

spiral dagger
slow jasper
spiral dagger
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crazy af

slow jasper
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havent seen anyone pass him yet

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he just chilling at the musin tower and craft his gears through out the day

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very entertainment to watch

proud field
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I'm sure he crafts it piece by piece.

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At 5k accuracy, the target has to leave the country cause it will destroy an entire lineage.

slow jasper
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😭

lament skiff
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lol hammer's prolly working as intended then

slow jasper
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🤔

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question, not that relevant to summoner but. In Sundered Nexus. How come sometimes those falling rockets explore and cause earthquake?

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Happen to me sometime, just dont know why

outer hamlet
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you have to space them

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you can just go backwards when it lunches the first one

slow jasper
lament skiff
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They land on each other

slow jasper
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it just explores after the first one came down

lament skiff
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If the small red markers overlap, I believe?

slow jasper
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it happens especially at phase 60/30 and at the second rocket launch

lament skiff
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Oh earthquake?

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I always thought it was if the 4 adds in the corners didn't die

lament skiff
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those guys cause the quakes?

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I thought they just blew up

slow jasper
# lament skiff those guys cause the quakes?

It won't if they are fully landed. But sometimes when the marker dont lure it right. It will explore sooner and cause earthquake. That is the part I was confusing. What factor did the marker do wrong that cause it explore

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🥀

lament skiff
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Maybe too much dps?

slow jasper
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I lured it the same way as always. Not always but after the first rocket hit the ground It just explore 😭 try to figure it out why

severe cargo
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Thats the only thing I can think of

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happened to me during the first week

severe cargo
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Is the rocket just exploding and doing a Nova

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Or is it actual earthquake with debris

slow jasper
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  1. Boss launchs rockets
  2. Somehow rocket explores and cause earthquake
  3. Three man die 😭
severe cargo
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Is it dropped on boss on top of melee ? (I have no clue if thats a thing)

slow jasper
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so you guys havent seen this?

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huh

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😭

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It just happened to me sometimes

severe cargo
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Might be a bug then. When Im baiting. I just go in front of the tank near melee, and start backpedaling as soon as I see the target mark on me refresh

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and I make a straight line up untill wall

zinc vault
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boss marks twice before any drills fall, i only got the random earthquake when i didn't move between the markings

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no idea if it actually has something to do with that tho 🤷‍♂️

solemn oar
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Only things that cause quakes is if drills are too close or boss reaches 6 charges from the adds. Ive seen some people get some lag stutters and drop a drill accidentally too close to another without realising it

zinc vault
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the thing is earthquake can happen on the 1st drill

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which might just be a bug

zinc vault
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no

slow jasper
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Well, I space them wider than that

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and earthquake still happens

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Let me do a record when I have the chance to go SN

solemn oar
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maybe if the red aoe that clown does during the drills being dropping hitting them can cause it too shrugeg

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i havent seen drill 1 causing it though

proud field
severe cargo
mellow breach
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its happened to me once but no idea how it happened

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first rocket drops and instant earthquake

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we just reset and I did it again just fine no problems

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I just assumed it was lag and moved on

lament skiff
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What a troll

slow jasper
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Me and my guys truly spent time to test and play with it yesterday 😭

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I think it because at least two drills were overlapping and caused earthquake

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But here is the interesting part

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If the marked person moves only just after the boss finish its drill launching animation

Those drills might overlapping each others while in the air and not yet fully hit the ground. That's why altho only one drill hit the ground but still cause earthquake

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I tried to move sooner like after the boss just begin to shoot. It worked fine

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🤔

lament skiff
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Just besties it!

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don't worry, pop besties!

slow jasper
outer hamlet
lament skiff
outer hamlet
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ff

dawn thunder
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gg. summoners got nothing out of this patch.

outer hamlet
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iruga buff or summoner nerf ?

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i had 15s spare time befor

slow jasper
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you solo?

outer hamlet
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use to solo

soft sorrel
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How does shroud for party work? I dont seem to get it to activate on full party

olive flicker
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you need it to be blue skill

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you can use the AOE for party after using the normal one

soft sorrel
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Does it need to be Seed Shroud, Seed Shroud Overflow or Seed Shroud Counter?

olive flicker
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only those .. the counter one dose not have it

soft sorrel
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Okay I have overflow... Will try to test it again... basically double click shroud skill

olive flicker
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yes

soft sorrel
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Thanks for the help!! Will try it with my friends tonight.

olive flicker
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yw

lament skiff
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Our shroud shares a cooldown with sin shroud

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And that party cd is different based on who used it last

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And it also doesn't match the skill cd

rich yoke
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wts server na

lament skiff
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Oh there we go, working as intended

severe cargo
lament skiff
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Def down

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Not worth investing in as you still need a poison applicator

severe cargo
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Damn

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So hornet is fine with 18 gm but sunflower it must suck

rough ether
devout aspen
olive flicker
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is there any summoner with sunflower want to quit? I want to buy 5xpurp for 37.5k or 7500 gems each one
EU

slow jasper
snow valley
elder wyvern
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Anyone buying Leg Hornet Nest?

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NA WTS

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damn there is a set lol.
Leg Hornet Nest + Def Reduction Hammer.

slow jasper
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ship it to TW pls

elder wyvern
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GG I wish

outer hamlet
elder wyvern
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DMed him thx

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Instant cast for hornet sounds huge and fun

lament skiff
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There's still a 400ms gcd
-# Unless that changed

elder wyvern
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Yeah I know

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XD

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I am selling it for 100k solid, just let me know if anyone. Might salvage again after few days

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so far 1 Intended buyer but need time

olive flicker
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if it the same cooldown as super sunflower I will regret sold it

outer hamlet
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bont belive it changed from kr streams i seen

elder wyvern
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0.5 sec cast to instant is huge XD

olive flicker
lament skiff
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Oh it says .6 gcd

prime salmon
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WTS everything (NA summoner) all characters - Nisaba

severe cargo
elder wyvern
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WTB Rumblebee / Strike speed increase 700 each

prime salmon
spiral dagger
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No! Summoner players shouldn’t quit at all
Our population is so small, we can’t just give up :/

elder wyvern
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Better than kfm

solemn oar
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we need to convince people to reroll to smn

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start a little ad campaign

proud field
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Nah, let them quit, I want some sunflowers that won't break the bank.

solemn oar
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more smns will be a more active market and less people to gouge us

rough ether
solid kestrel
ornate pelican
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Yo pros whats the best build for support summoner

slow jasper
ornate pelican
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Is leg besties important?

slow jasper
lament skiff
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Yellow besties is more of a qol for the summoner

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removes the hp cost and heals you instead

gusty kiln
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It feels great to have. Even if your party doesn’t really take damage you can still give them focus every 24 seconds. Makes for faster runs overall than stacking 1 more purple main damage book

lament skiff
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Oh I thought the focus was just for the caster

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Neat

gusty kiln
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I thought it was too so I tested with a bd in garden. Favorite skill now never removing

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But people can be at max focus already when you cast and not get the benefit so it’s sometimes redundant

lament skiff
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Focus for more sunflowers!

elder wyvern
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Good skill, but ppl don't recognize how great it is, so I couldn't sell high price at all

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HP increase = dmg increase (plus, later 48GS GG crazy for 1 min buff)

real ember
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ggs

olive flicker
# real ember

if you want to sell sunflower for 7500 I can buy 5

elder wyvern
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WTB Rumblebee / Strike speed increase 700 each

novel forum
spiral dagger
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i need 2 more leg sf dude

novel forum
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we can organize "Kappucinio Help nights" 😄

snow valley
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Tarmiel is quitting it seems. Rip.

spiral dagger
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It is what it is

hard hamlet
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meow :3

slow jasper
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some of the people that I know were also quitting the game

solemn oar
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Mass exodus of top players everywhere rn

lament skiff
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lol the game shows no signs of acknowledging player feedback

solemn oar
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Ncwest can only do so much

severe cargo
solemn oar
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Yeah it seems like a weird patch for everyone to quit on

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But it is still just the same pattern of how content has been

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Na wont be clearing lair till christmas at this point

slow jasper
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even some dudes that are truly p2w. They sealed their gears and sold out

lament skiff
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What's the point at being the best at a game nobody's playing

slow jasper
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🥀 sad to here. Most jump out and currently waiting for AION 2

lament skiff
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I heard the monetization for aion2 is crazy too

severe cargo
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It's a ncsoft game

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Once I quit Neo I'm never touching a NCSOFT product ever again

solid kestrel
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^ this here sweating

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i've already been warned about nclowns but i didn't know it was this bad

spiral dagger
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I was playing live for few years so I knew it already but I’m naive

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Also I just like this game :/

elder wyvern
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damn i love sunflower on my SUM

rigid delta
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gotta fund aeon 2 the game

gusty kiln
elder wyvern
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lol man i don't have leg frag in my SUM anymore

gusty kiln
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More bp’s and more hajoons. You’ll have pages in 3 more months trust!

real ember
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i dont wanna make a flood for what i am doing, thanks for quick sells, rest of the gear is still for sale, dont be shy to ask prices. eu server.

elder wyvern
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NA - WTS purple sunflower
WTB - Rumblebee, Strike(speed) 700 each

real ember
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sorry, updates list, cant edit my linked thing

real ember
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im out, gl on rest lads, peace.

slow jasper
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🥀

outer hamlet
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Is DT that trash ? I though the buff was huge and they can def down too

slow jasper
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then puncture

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some top tier BMs in TW start to play lighting BM, thunder drake slash

outer hamlet
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wts EU

elder wyvern
# slow jasper

it's just game is not worth to play much unles you have perfect group. Ppl are quitting a lot bc there is no management/balance

slow jasper
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gradually qutting even with some whales

lament skiff
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There's mismanagement!

solemn oar
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unfortunately the bm one isnt 100% uptime though. but from playing with 18 gm searing bms (no leg) the dps bump to party is still pretty nice

slow jasper
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not DT

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just use searing slash alongs with heavenly slash then you get def down and dmg also

solemn oar
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oh neat. i dont really know anything about bm

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searing is great though

slow jasper
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🥀 or just go for lighting draw for massive dmg

spiral dagger
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tw server is weird dude

slow jasper
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🥀 if it exist, it's playable

spiral dagger
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okay

elder wyvern
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Wtb rumblebees 700, strike speed 700

still abyss
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wts besties legthumbs_upna

spiral dagger
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YAY

outer hamlet
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15 ?? iirc 70 gave 16ap

spiral dagger
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70-71-72-73-74 gives 16 ap

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idk why 75 only 15

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but it is what it is

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road to 2k ;c

outer hamlet
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you want to do true timestream ?

spiral dagger
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no for now

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i wantt o work with my leg skills first

rough ether
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Bumping #💬︱neo-chat message

thin kite
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WTS soulcore for summoner
EU server

olive flicker
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before the boost

outer hamlet
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the buf is crazy imo

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should be up with sertpent patch

elder wyvern
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WTB rumblebee 700 each 😉

olive flicker
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they bossted rumblebee too .. I though no one using it

maiden flint
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well that's not much of a buff? purple hornet

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poison flower too, sounds like barely a buff

lament skiff
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Wait, Yast has updated?

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Well, what a surprise

elder wyvern
exotic prairie
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WTS - NA - PMO

elder wyvern
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need to try tds from BM lol

outer hamlet
lament skiff
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Wish they'd open source their parsing tools

elder wyvern
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yast will be shut down.

olive flicker
maiden flint
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48gm is literally useless if u have legendary hornet

severe cargo
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Might not matter on WB but on high lvl content will show more

elder wyvern
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anyone gets Rumblebees and strike, don't salvage and sell me to 700 please XD.
I don't buy scam price. Rather stick with sunflower

slow jasper
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the cat does 80% of your damage

elder wyvern
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XD seems fun. hammer hammer

solemn oar
elder wyvern
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Hornet Nest hmm

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I should have tried before salavage lo

slow jasper
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mean while other classes can increase their crit rate from 20% up to 100%

severe cargo
maiden flint
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i mean its 1 crit every 3 hornet

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at least make it a buff that stacks up, so when you dont roll your crit% chance, the stack is used

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but NC

solemn oar
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agreed. queen bee needs to go back in the oven to cook a bit more

severe cargo
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Too sad games gonna die before we see the gloriousness of Queen Bee

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I actually expected Queen bee to be an extra attack that crits. So every 3 hits, you hit twice.

solemn oar
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an extra hornet every 3rd would be sick too

lament skiff
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I think they'll just keep the servers running

hard hamlet
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meow :3

wheat sierra
elder wyvern
outer hamlet
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still selling this EU

solid ermine
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WTS Summoner Hornet Legendary NA PM your offer

proud field
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If anyone on EU gets purple sunflowers for sale, scream at me. (We could figure something out)

proud field
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Who be selling these, scream at me, let's get a sale.

spiral dagger
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No

slow jasper
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🥀

elder wyvern
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NA WTS Legendary Sunflower (Taking Offers, c/o 120k. Taking offer until tomorrow. Processing time can be discussed)
[reserved]

spiral dagger
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I can sell on EU if good offer Cozzydo

lament skiff
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Three fiddy!

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Was wb 20 mins ago or in 40 mins

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Time went funky here

zinc vault
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it was 20mins ago

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or tbf an hour 20mins ago now

lament skiff
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Ew gross

split monolith
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WTS Summoner Sunflower Legendary NA PM your offer

zinc vault
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@lament skiff wb is in 9mins

lament skiff
#

I have returned from le nap

zinc vault
#

time to show the world your laser beams

lament skiff
#

Mostly I was just hungry

spiral dagger
#

And how was it?? I miss wb so much, skipped whole weekend cuz of work ;/

lament skiff
#

the 10g is very helpful

outer hamlet
#

new box is so bad smh

lament skiff
#

Scamjoon or the wb?

#

Brother Hajoon lives an expensive lifestyle

spiral dagger
#

new wb

lament skiff
#

The .002 % chance for a yellow is nice

#

You get less cards though

spiral dagger
#

and gold

#

i always got blue card now

#

i ahd like 2x 10g

#

and before almsot every wb i had 10g, sometimes even 100

lament skiff
#

The extra g will go away

outer hamlet
#

0.001 😂 aka 1/100000
form 60% of 10g to 40%
materials box replaces thoes 20% and it's not the 10 materials it's 5

lament skiff
#

I think you can still get 100 though

#

Ah that's true

#

more duds

outer hamlet
#

2% for 100g

#

it would have been good if u got 20 green cards +2 blue cards +10 material box +gold 10-100/wivern/prpl cards/skill

#

nerf for top 10 buff for 11+

elder wyvern
#

NA WTS purple sunflower

sour quest
#

Greetings, still WTB Legendary Hornet Nest EU. PMO please. Thanks ❤️ .

zinc vault
#

The last one I turned into 4pages bns_cry

sour quest
#

I know 😂 😻.

lament skiff
#

How come I can't see the puddles from meganura

#

I keep flying T_T

severe cargo
#

People straight up kill them

#

They're supposed to get the HP down. Wait for parasites to finish animation and they create puddle

#

But they die too quick

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And can't finish the animation/cast for puddle

#

Been a problem forever

lament skiff
#

Oh, you're not supposed to kill them?

zinc vault
#

your best bet is to pray for cat swap

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cause you wont really see them anymore

severe cargo
severe cargo
#

The fix is prolly for ncsoft to multiply the HP of parasites

#

But knowing ncsoft they never will

#

Also some classes can bug out the knock back by staying in combat and spamming some abilities

#

Like on warlock I would spam block and put out my sanctum then continue blocking to stay in combat and I would avoid getting yeeted

#

I haven't figured how to cheese on fm tho

lament skiff
#

Do more dps and skip the mech?

outer hamlet
#

SS-ing dodge the yeet

#

hey kacper how's the 48 def down ?

spiral dagger
spiral dagger
# lament skiff Oh, you're not supposed to kill them?

meganura is kinda bugged, sometimes there is puddle sometimes not but u can just do long jump to avoid purple attack, idk if u were playing on live but it was very common to use
just lose combat > jump and fly untill attack ends, so u wont be pushed away from boss

lament skiff
#

Needing an applicator is sadge

spiral dagger
#

yeah, also i though it will be poison refresh on 5 stacks but no.. :<

#

it is what it is, maybe someday they will change it

lament skiff
#

probably best to drop prickly and grab venothorn

spiral dagger
#

ye

#

i have veno and skip prickly

outer hamlet
#

so you stack 5-> hammer -> lmb ? or dont care about poison scaling ?
i hate having to lmb with the gcd being shared with SF i use to poison-pin and def down during exile time

proud field
#

Is the 5 poison scaling the damage that high?

lament skiff
#

no

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lol

#

I still say you should complain

#

maybe they change it for you

spiral dagger
gusty kiln
#

Seems like the best way is purple cheer up with 3 gold speed hammers so you don’t need any poison books at all. But then you lose besties feels bad

proud field
#

"c gives u additional stack every time untill 5" You're saying it gives you poison stacks upon use?

spiral dagger
#

and 10% def reduction less

proud field
#

So the tooltip doesn't say that.

spiral dagger
#

but when u have 4 stacks and u use def reduction (it should be 5 but stacks are gone)

elder wyvern
gusty kiln
#

I wanna see Ganzi’s yeti damage!

spiral dagger
#

i could play meme cat build but i really like to play sunflower

elder wyvern
#

Ganzi dps is good as well lol

zinc vault
#

only problem with def red hammer is that it takes quite a lot of slots, so you need a few leg sunflowers

spiral dagger
elder wyvern
#

tbh sunflower & Hornet case, better use 2 or 3 leg strike(def reduction)
idk who would put XD

#

that is

#

awesome

zinc vault
elder wyvern
spiral dagger
#

i need 3 more legs < 1 def reduction and 2 leg sunflowers

zinc vault
#

give me sunflowers

#

also now that you're here

#

how do people grab on yeti

#

i dont have insta cc anymore

#

so my cat gets cc-ed

spiral dagger
#

i use daybreak on it

#

so cat dont get cc

#

😄

zinc vault
#

oh

gusty kiln
#

Yeti opens the cc bar after 2 yellow attacks. You can press Q preemptively to make it cc immune

zinc vault
#

we dont use q anymore

#

so i guess only x

spiral dagger
#

yeah

#

cuz no book for q gives nothing for cat

#

only def ;/

#

it is kinda sad

#

also i miss iframe e for summoner+cat

#

idk why they didnt add it on neo

zinc vault
#

we all do bns_cry

spiral dagger
#

we lack of iframes so much

gusty kiln
#

Ah yeah. I had 2 destroyer in party so I put the book q on for their defense scaling

spiral dagger
#

yday i was running yeti without hmb so i changed daybreak for solidarity and it was nice

#

but i had some focus problems sometimes

#

lvl up tomorrow

elder wyvern
# spiral dagger

damn. wonder how much per book in EU.
NA damn expensive so. We can't do this. We decided Rumblebee bonkbonk

#

that's the best way to build whale SUM

zinc vault
#

not much tbh

spiral dagger
#

i bought my first sunflower for 140k

#

then i made everything

#

xd

elder wyvern
#

wow

zinc vault
#

nowdays it's like 40-45k

elder wyvern
#

wow

spiral dagger
#

ye, trash books for 35k, sunflower can go at max price 50k imo

#

but we dont have whale summoners to pay for it

#

tbh

#

i mean, many summoners quit

#

wb ranking looks weird

elder wyvern
#

what is your yeti dps like

#

50% def red with that many sunflower seems insane

zinc vault
#

depends if he's tanking or not xD

spiral dagger
#

it was my last 3, when i could go (no work)

spiral dagger
elder wyvern
#

so strong

spiral dagger
#

with dps badges i can have even 125-130~

#

it is with xp badges

elder wyvern
#

damnnnn whale sunflower OP

spiral dagger
#

dps badges while tanking

elder wyvern
#

way stronger than my KFM lol

zinc vault
#

i know that there is at least 1 more summoner who'll be back in a few weeks

#

so that's nice bns_shy

spiral dagger
#

yeah

#

but still eu lack of summoners

#

many ppl dont even expect to have summoner in pt and they dont know how to play with us most of the time, only our main groups/clan mates

elder wyvern
#

NA too expensive

spiral dagger
#

i think im naga ready

#

i can't wait tbh to try it

#

especially with 76lvl, i will try to push atleast half of 77 till naga arrive

elder wyvern
#

so with leg strike(def red)+ 48GS, how does the poison stack remain? pickly to stack 5 and then 50% is always up? @spiral dagger

spiral dagger
#

with 48 gm u need only 1 poison stack

#

so u use just poison lmb

elder wyvern
#

i mean 5 poison stack gives additional dmg to sunflower so

#

I am curious that part

spiral dagger
#

yeah but your c destroy it anyway

elder wyvern
#

i see

spiral dagger
#

so it is hard to keep 5 poison and def reduction

elder wyvern
#

so just keeping def only mostly?

spiral dagger
#

maybe for a little time but it is not worth

#

ye

elder wyvern
#

i c

#

thx

spiral dagger
#

it gives u more dmg boost than poison

#

ssf gives u 0.7x dmg more only

#

with naga patch it will be 0.9x

#

but also basic dmg will be more so w/e

#

from 6.5 to 7.4

elder wyvern
#

yeah

spiral dagger
#

0.9 looks nice but i prefer to boost my party with +15k dps per person, than only mine dps

#

overall def reduction is better

elder wyvern
#

yeah u can simply party up with rumblebee builds XD

spiral dagger
#

hahhaa yeah

#

i know it is nice, i saw some streams from kr with bonk bonk build

#

but for me it is kinda too late

elder wyvern
#

Rumblebee build party contribution is insane

spiral dagger
#

to roll all my books

#

and evertyhing

elder wyvern
#

yeah sunflower is good

#

aoe op

spiral dagger
#

i have 8 leg books atm and when boss is moving

#

it sucks

#

on sf u can just stay and dps xd

#

every 18 sec, u use lmb and c

#

or just spam c for additional dmg

#

cuz really, def reduction hits are nice

elder wyvern
#

rumblebee, hold button XD

#

5 bleed, 40% def reduction fun

spiral dagger
#

20 hits, 300k dmg

#

not bad at all

#

and only 20% crit

elder wyvern
#

yeah good

zinc vault
#

55.4% sunflower crit-rate bns_foaming

spiral dagger
#

yeah..

#

i wish to have 80-90% like kfms

#

idk why they can't give us like atleast 10% crit rate more

#

on gm stacks

#

or something..

zinc vault
#

the flat crit-rates from cards are gonna save usbns_bursting

elder wyvern
#

nah....

spiral dagger
#

can u donate me jinsoyun and master hong??

#

pls triguun

zinc vault
#

only longgui leftbns_phew

elder wyvern
#

lunar pain hugefor kfm

spiral dagger
zinc vault
#

i dont think i'm the best person to ask for this

spiral dagger
zinc vault
#

my 3 gubongs are so ready tho

spiral dagger
#

my 3 yura waiting also

zinc vault
#

btw what is critical damage rate

#

cause the wb cardset is critical rate

spiral dagger
#

it gives u critical dmg

zinc vault
#

wait

#

i'm stupid

#

dont mind me

spiral dagger
#

yes

#

i know that

gusty kiln
#

wtb Jinsoyun/Hong

spiral dagger
#

wtb also

#

;/

#

waiting for hong

#

;/

#

but for now im gonna keep all cards

#

for collections

#

cuz i have some what will be needed but not all xD

#

ap+def

#

not all probably but still something xD

zinc vault
#

do we have a complete list of the sets?

spiral dagger
#

i dont think so

dusty yarrow
#

I lived to see 3 summoners on the same pt and each one with a different build

outer hamlet
#

(0.9+7.4)/7.4=1.12
poison is 12% dps upgrade
better than going from GM48 to 66 or from 102 to 138

outer hamlet
#

smol summoner
speed hammer no drain in case u find it interesting

slow jasper
#

🤔

outer hamlet
#

testing ground when ...

lament skiff
#

You just need to buy them first

#

Then hammer at the dummy in mushin

spiral dagger
#

i will make video when i wake up

#

on dummy to show u

#

or nvm, got it now xD

outer hamlet
#

oooohhh when u said it dont reset poison i though it would do
3stack 2s left -> C-> 4 stack 2s left
so you just have to lmb every 1min unless cat cant re-apply

#

huge

#

would still use DnR tho

spiral dagger
#

hm, dnr and 48gm

#

maybe i will try it

#

i will do some tests tomorrow cuz day off

#

if u have any ideas what to test i can do this, i have many summoners books still xD

outer hamlet
#

10/18s poison uptime with a 12% dmg increase form 5stack should be 6.6% dmg increase (instead of 2% with the 10/60s uptime) only a boost in solo content, might be clutch on serpent

spiral dagger
#

but u want to add dnr into lmb+48gm c?

#

or dnr + 48gm c only and skip lmb poison

outer hamlet
#

just replace lmb for DnR

#

and C during the stacking

#

it's less focus too

spiral dagger
#

it is not giving 5 poison stacks from the beginning?

#

it is like 1poison per tick?

outer hamlet
#

i belive

spiral dagger
#

okay, i will check this and let u know

#

if it works like u think it could be nice

outer hamlet
spiral dagger
#

okay.. lets see this tomorrow xD

outer hamlet
#

gn tysm for the vid

spiral dagger
lament skiff
#

My chart is right

#

With dnr what happens if you miss

olive flicker
slow jasper
# spiral dagger

wait, that actually weird how 4 stacks of poison got pop into thin air

spiral dagger
#

Yeah…

#

Idk why and how but it is what it is

outer hamlet
olive flicker
#

I can't believe .. now Hornet is cheaper than Rumblebees !!

slow jasper
#

🥀 both hornet and rumblebee are 400 diamonds here

#

only def down hammer is 1200 and sunflower is 7k

elder wyvern
#

WTS purple sunflower

spiral dagger
elder wyvern
lament skiff
#

The font is better

severe cargo
#

More importantly how do I play in korean

lament skiff
#

Its uh

#

Command line flag

#

Idr the format

#

/lang:something?

spiral dagger
#

-lang:Korean -region:1

#

works only on steam client

severe cargo
#

Oh hmmm

#

I see

#

Thanks

vivid carbon
#

Currently in the 20ish level of story content, and I was wondering how much further I have to push in order to get a skill book so my Familiar can taunt? It's got about 3x my HP... Why is the squishy taking all the aggro? ^^;

proud field
#

You won't receive one yet.

#

I suggest that you level manually up to 44. Then go back to character selection and Boost that 44 lvl to 45.

#

You'll then receive free items and you would have learned your class in the meantime.

vivid carbon
#

Ah. Thanks for the heads up.

proud field
#

If you Boost a character directly to 45 from 0 you would still receive the free items but you wouldn't know how to play and you'll come back here saying " Step bro I'm stuck ".

#

Also the Boost is free, regardless at what level you wanna do it.

outer hamlet
#

just ask and dont waste 8hours of ur life

vivid carbon
#

Yeah, part of the reason why I'm iffy on games including level boosters like that... You get players coming in at high levels, but have never played the class before, so they've got no idea what they're doing.

proud field
outer hamlet
#

dont suffer through the rumble bee phase

proud field
#

Also depending on what server you're playing, try and get yourself into a clan.

#

Information is key in the game, so you do not wanna waste time with this and that and go directly to the source.

#

(maint is now in EU, so best of luck after)

vivid carbon
#

I'm in NA.

#

Not sure how long Maintenance normally lasts, as I'm usually stuck helping my dad with projects on my days off from work. Been a while since I've had a day to myself.

proud field
vivid carbon
#

Thanks... And eww... 4 hours...

proud field
#

They huff and puff and fix "something". bns_nervous

spiral dagger
#

NEW EVENT DUDE

proud field
#

If it's a Kill Asura, it will involve everybody. If not, brother ew.

spiral dagger
#

i'm still waiting for carry me if u can yeti

severe cargo
lament skiff
#

Maybe after the 2nd yellow dg

#

I vaguely recall an event for running all 4 blues in moonwater

outer hamlet
#

carry me if u can paired with a leader-board is a weird combo

crisp stag
#

WTB LEG SF EU

#

WTB Purple SF EU

outer hamlet
#

🫡 hornest

lament skiff
#

Doesnt it get a buff too

outer hamlet
#

+1x and 1.3x

#

SSF is +0.9x and +1.1x

crisp stag
#

RIP Hornet

#

to low dps

outer hamlet
#

until you hit gm30 on def down it's a better support
after that you can perma def down witch ever playstile you choose soo...

#
  • 50% def down for 6 is cool
  • 50% def down for 4 😴
lament skiff
#

Just get more yellows

spiral dagger
#

Yeah

#

More yellow makes your life easier and better

spiral dagger
#

I saw him few days ago he was trying to sell it but probably 0 offers

lament skiff
#

I do see him log in after wb

spiral dagger
#

Just msg Zachiko or Deso Dragoncall

lament skiff
#

Oof those are not sum names

#

You'll need to buy 2 and a ton of gold

spiral dagger
lament skiff
#

Oh it's 2025

#

I shouldnt assume their class

spiral dagger
#

Yeah…

#

So rude

#

Classophobic

slow jasper
#

🥀 hornet pvp spec only

spiral dagger
#

BG alive on TW?

#

Cuz eu is dead

slow jasper
#

some of the whales just selling their accounts

spiral dagger
#

wow

slow jasper
#

still playable tho, found a match in within 10s of waiting only

spiral dagger
#

on eu sometimes u wait 45 min

#

sometimes 3 min

#

but most of the time 20-25

elder wyvern
#

yellow skills are just another tier QoL

#

I think once cat has 48GS strike speed, unkillable cat lol

slow jasper
#

you will need 48gm Z cheer up as well

#

so the cat can have drain ability

elder wyvern
#

oh i meant cheer up

#

mb

slow jasper
#

with 30gm speed hammer, the cat shouldnt be CCed at all. But it still get knocked out, stunned and various cc altho I was spamming very hard with the hammer

#

dont know how the game work

lament skiff
#

Even the TW whales are leaving?

slow jasper
naive jackal
#

anyone interested for legendary book vine whip ?

spiral dagger
#

ONLY DEF REDUCTION

#

DUDE

naive jackal
#

just want to sell the trash so i can do some gear upgrades

lament skiff
#

I would 100%

#

build an acc so I could swap vinewhip and hammer

outer hamlet
#

unlimited dase sounds cool for lunar /beastbog

spiral dagger
#

even 30gm was nice

#

on msp/beast

#

12 sec cd

crisp stag
#

Where are those LEG SF 4 sale?🫣

#

Dont be shine

hard hamlet
#

meow :3

spiral dagger
#

who else has leg sunflower on eu?
me, triguun, emraell, fusel and?

#

ahh, shaaresh

#

so i think only 5 ppl has it
14 leg sf in total lol

zinc vault
#

You probably won't find any sunflowers for sale.

snow valley
#

Meanwhile me watching my clanmates getting lege books.

spiral dagger
#

ye, will be hard

#

maybe @lament skiff can sell, he is nice dude

#

right???

elder wyvern
#

Wth... NC suddenly put the bug for strike hammer

#

It is slower

#

boost speed effect suddenly doesn't work wtf

slow jasper
#

I did experience it somehow back then

#

Was like because you lock some of your cat skills?

crisp stag
#

WTB LEG SF EU

#

@lament skiff ❤️ 😂

lament skiff
#

lol

#

Just make one bro

elder wyvern
#

@naive jackal

crisp stag
#

if i get 3 im f"#$

lament skiff
#

That's the risk most of us took 😄

outer hamlet
#

if SF are 50k and trash 35k+500g why gamble

gusty kiln
#

WTB Gold Bestie x2 NA

spiral dagger
spiral dagger
#

idk, he offer 55k for it

#

but i bought only first one leg skill

#

then i made all

crisp stag
spiral dagger
#

ok, some guy wanted to sell it for 55k for him

crisp stag
spiral dagger
#

ye

#

just buy 2 trash books

#

for 30k

#

and made it

crisp stag
#

i will

spiral dagger
#

or buy purple books and pray

crisp stag
#

no more

#

kkkkk

spiral dagger
#

i did 23 attempts before first leg

#

and it was when books were 5x more expensive than now

#

u can find purple books for 250 divines

crisp stag
#

its all about "gamba"

spiral dagger
#

this game is gamba

#

no matter what and where

#

even dungs are gamba, some ppl will drop 5 leg chests

#

some ppl wont even see it for the whole game

#

this transmute system for leg books is even worse than trove

outer hamlet
#

the lostninja dude have seen 3 and got a solo one

spiral dagger
#

i even know ppl who drop leg chest on mc

outer hamlet
#

yeh the 10g box trove would be better

#

minecraft ?

spiral dagger
#

multiclient

#

running with main + alt with bless

#

just to not waste bless on main

outer hamlet
#

yeh the bot drop

#

we know ...

#

aint got time to do 1111 garden run to maby drop a box

spiral dagger
#

just be whale enoughj to do asura solo

#

in 7 min

#

i could do asura solo when i had vine whip

#

now with def reduction i lack some dmg

#

but im doing garden in like 10 min

crisp stag
spiral dagger
#

personal dmg yes.

#

not much but still

outer hamlet
#

wait for buff and voila

spiral dagger
#

i mean vine whip is also good dmg resource

#

much better than def reduction (i mean dmg skill)

#

also i had poison like 99% uptime

#

12 sec cd/ 10 sec poison

#

so i was hitting more but in dungs with party

#

def reduction is crazy.

#

my friends on yeti now has like +15/20k dps more

#

per run per person

outer hamlet
#

the ninja nerf from this patch hurt my soul i dont have motivation to do more than 1 solo garden run for daily

crisp stag
#

I follow Korea Top 1 Sum and shes using whip

spiral dagger
#

whip is awesome, i like to use it also it is useful on pvx/msp

#

but im playing with my clan and i want to clear content with them

crisp stag
#

you have exactly same char as her xD

spiral dagger
#

with this def reduction we are able to clear naga i believe, while with whip only 2 or maybe 3 ppl from my clan can handle it

outer hamlet
#

anyway i dont have the budget to chose what i ll play if i get vint it ll be vine ect.

spiral dagger
#

ye, i had to reroll my leg vine whip into def reduction

#

but it was worth

#

cuz from 1 book i made 2

#

i had 2 frags before

crisp stag
spiral dagger
#

vine 5 frags > rumblebees > salvaged into 5 frags > so i had 8 in total

crisp stag
#

10 12k plus

spiral dagger
#

and made 2x def reduction

slow jasper
#

🤯

spiral dagger
#

i still need like 4 legs

#

1x def reduction, 2x sunflower and 1x besties

#

wasted so much gold on it but im farming msp when i can so..

#

this gold farm is crazy with 70lvl spots