Summoner

[steel python]

Especially at purple tier

2 focus per 8s

[deep marsh]

it is just expensive

[true stirrup]

just one purple one blue is enough imo

18% is high enough so that it procs very quickly

[steel python]

Yeah I meant just having 1 purple

It's annoying how it can screw you over with the rolls

But it's worth doing

I'd do it once you get all your basic purple books and are waiting on ductile stones to upgrade

[deep marsh]

waiting? uff

[steel python]

[deep marsh]

have 9

didnt buy this week too

[steel python]

Sounds like it's time to use

[deep marsh]

dont have the money

[steel python]

Your next upgrade then I guess

[deep marsh]

all legy acc 100% pitty xD

[steel python]

Lethe one taps his wep

From true siren to hexwood

Or something like that

Stole our luck

[deep marsh]

even the blue stones aren't dropping for me

got 6 or so so far

and fuseing is way to expensive

[dusty yarrow]

my turn now

[deep marsh]

do the focus mantras combine or is it separate?

[steel python]

We only want 1

[dusty yarrow]

F

[steel python]

The % chance will combine

You don't really need over 20%

So we just want one set

[deep marsh]

i read somewhere that they are separate

[chrome epoch]

Eww

Sadge nothing good 😦

WTB purple Sunflower

[steel python]

I have no good way of testing

But I heard they combine

[deep marsh]

🤣

[steel python]

Regardless just having one set makes a world of difference

[steel python]

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-bao-bao-baobao-knife-hostage-gif-12887669370212943559

[true stirrup]

i full pitied going to awakened though

[sinful cove]

https://tenor.com/view/remarkable-bravo-good-job-gif-19892177

[chrome epoch]

Cant even get enough acent stones

[sinful cove]

Sell your kidney and buy them from market in 3 days

[mighty radish]

what is the no text stats?

[sinful cove]

text bug on some items after the botched patch

[mighty radish]

is it active stats? or just bug text

[sinful cove]

As far as I could tell just text bug. RElated to all the new skill changes missing correct text etc.

[steel python]

ngl i think they were too lazy

[river light]

WTB Purple Sunflower - NA PMO!

[sinful cove]

maybe there was not enough budget for a proper translation, thats why a purple selector in BP, so they can add it after patch xD

[chrome epoch]

WTB Purple Sun EU

[sharp wedge]

xp buff

[true stirrup]

well not all, on my FM i cannot use this skill i purchased

C

[minor sun]

No text 5%/10% should b combat exp increase

Friend upgrade neck and got it said they were at 105% exp now and bar was green

[true stirrup]

yes

[solid kestrel]

how expensive was this o_o

[true stirrup]

uhh

prolly like 8k so far

[solid kestrel]

8k gems or 8k powder

[true stirrup]

gems

but im buying the powders by buying 50 gem siren accessories

and salvaging

it would have been 2x as cheap to salvage transformation stones

but need ascent stones too

[solid kestrel]

that sounds pretty carried

i'm at around 5k gems now and i buy trans stones and only have +70%

[true stirrup]

use the wep powders to roll the mystic and soul badge

[patent briar]

does this bonus apply to clearing dungeons?

[true stirrup]

Yes, that's the combat EXP from the boss kill

[patent briar]

and you can roll it on accessories even though it doesn't show up on the list?

are the odds pretty low for accessories

[true stirrup]

Yes, just like you can roll debuff resistance and accuracy

[solid kestrel]

yeah i rolled 5 5 10 on mystic, not going to roll soul because those stats are too good

[true stirrup]

i just bought a random level 0 extra badge and rolled it on that

for when i dont need the stats

[chrome epoch]

wtf

[lament skiff]

Is there secretly a 15% boost or something

Idk how to get to 235

[vestal sage]

Can you get combat exp on weapon too? I'm seeing a lot of people with double roll accesory, but none weapon so far.

[knotty rampart]

WTS SUM EU

[steel python]

If someone in NA is sellling purple cat pin, can you let me know? I don't want to buy i just want to favorite it on my marketplace

[spiral dagger]

i have on EU and its amazing

my party loves it

1 of the best pin in game i believe

[steel python]

shhh

no its trash, not worth a book slot

[spiral dagger]

yeah u right

[steel python]

I can't believe you're trolling with it

[spiral dagger]

it is only because iw ant to sell it

for higher price

[steel python]

Yes exactly

[barren drum]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-menacing-cursed-gif-8800082052821236868

[rigid delta]

is it just me or is the cat standing up out of Q a lot more this patch now

I can't get it to stay in q like half of a fight now

or I beckon it back, so I can Q it

And it gets stuck in the air so it just straight up walks out of Q

[river light]

WTB Purple Sunflower - NA PMO!

[gusty kiln]

This happens a lot more after the maint yeah

[spiral dagger]

buff summoner pls

[rigid delta]

yeah its really messing with my chi

[solemn oar]

Do we know definitively whats better for purple sunflower with purple drain vs purple gimme light yet?

[dusty yarrow]

hornet*

[gusty kiln]

WTB Purple Drain NA

[rigid delta]

well

from an enjoyment standpoint

gimmie light

purple drain is "better" but my god is the skill terrible

[prime salmon]

pricecheck on venemous rosethorn?

[rigid delta]

@prime salmon

[empty portal]

Hard to survive as a "support" class when NC Soft requires everyone to be a DPS truck

[rigid delta]

you mean

hard to survive as a support when your class is designed to be in melee ranged

with no iframes

[prime salmon]

istg ive seen it lower before 😭

[solemn oar]

that was my thoughts on it too. the fact they didnt just put honey on both gimme light and drain is pretty criminal

[rigid delta]

don't worry. Honey is on tumble roll LOL

[solemn oar]

i wish tumble was a viable skill

it looks so goofy to use

i love it

[rigid delta]

it was on live

because we had "sweet wish"

on neo the cat cannot survive without being in Q like at all times

[solemn oar]

never played late enough in live to experience it D:

[rigid delta]

and live had some like buff that made cat take less damage or something like that during raids

neo we dont have that

[solemn oar]

cat control tools just suck in general in neo it feels really awful

[rigid delta]

I dont even count summoner as a class in neo

they did everything possible to make the enjoyment of live summoner. Not translate over to neo

9 second cat call is just criminal

not to mention lunge putting every skill on a gcd

[solemn oar]

yeah. cat just sucks in general. theres no reason for them to not just have the 1s cat call

everything feels clunky

no e resetting q.

and even taking away the iframe on e too

[rigid delta]

I am so used to bad neo summoner

I forgot E did that

removing iframe e was so stupid

I hate daybreak

takes away our 5 hit

[solemn oar]

yeah our one iframe gets gutted cause daybreak exists

and they tease us with tumble

[rigid delta]

day break should have replaced Z instead

[solemn oar]

that and tumble should be on like v

[rigid delta]

Never tried to spec tumble roll

does it not replace Q

[solemn oar]

yep

[rigid delta]

ah

so its still bad

anytime I see a summoner use it in pvp

I just go kill the cat

[solemn oar]

yeah honey is irrelevant on it not sure why they bothered

[rigid delta]

I think the honey buff made the job worse to play

[solemn oar]

yeah the way it works feels so awkward

[rigid delta]

I like when overflow gets extended by it

but doesnt increase your stacks

and theyll fall off

[solemn oar]

honey is fine for hornets, but they really needed to cook more on what it does for sf

[rigid delta]

I wanna play hornets

but no gems

Im sick of flower already

skill desyncs so bad

[solemn oar]

hornets is actually pretty fun, i was doing it for a bit, swapping to psf with the bp

[rigid delta]

hornets you actually get to be the "support"

I dont know what the angle was for flower

but you need really good stats to make bees work

[solemn oar]

flower is just a range dps class with besties as a bonus

you could also try speccing poison/shred stuff on sunflower too but its messy :U

shred is crazy strong though

[rigid delta]

tried that

was too cancer of a play style

takes cat out of Q for hammer etc

and using lmb

[solemn oar]

i think with leg sf to get a bit more focus sustain it might be a bit more viable

or at least feel a lil better to play

[rigid delta]

yeah for sure

[solemn oar]

with lsf, you could potentially also go blue petals for more poison stax too for uptime

but idk

[solemn oar]

the changes to venom lmb refreshing poison is also really nice for it too

[rigid delta]

oh

cat also gets cc'd like

every 5 seconds by the boss

watching it get kb trying to apply hammer

[solemn oar]

the amount of times i see cat get knocked tf away mid hammer animation

if we dont get more tools to control/protect cat, anything cat reliant is always gonna be pretty miserable.

[rigid delta]

all we got was some meme pins and this briar patch that does nothing

[solemn oar]

the pins are sick for party tho

handful of classes that really benefit from that

[rigid delta]

takes away a flower slot

and then no one even ccs on neo to take advantage of it

they're both really good for pvp though

[fiery cape]

no room for support in 4man dg 😦

[steel python]

We're on vacation until 6 man

[empty portal]

The DPS classes can attempt the 4man, but they'd still have to whale for it (on the conditttion that they're under 150 ping)

[fiery cape]

@steel python can, i cant ... blue hornet hahaha

[empty portal]

This patch technically isn't really a "Naryu" patch, it's better to brand this patch as "BSH 2nd Segment" patch

[solemn oar]

just like last patch, its gonna depend on levels a lot. its all a time gate.

[empty portal]

I blew through almost 200 upgrade materials and only got +5% and +5% on the exp thing

😭

[solemn oar]

i slammed like 200 mats today and got +15% total D:

[fiery cape]

i spent 80 boxes only to get 7

[empty portal]

7x +5%?????

[steel python]

Yeah you're in a tough situation

But I don't think I can find a party either

[fiery cape]

4x5% , 1x 10% , and 2 debuff resist

hahahahaha

[empty portal]

That's not bad, they're decent stats

[sharp wedge]

This on Tree?

[sharp wedge]

I spent nearly 4000 powders to get 210%

[prime salmon]

FYI - this account scammed me. Promised to sell me sunflower but the prereq was venemous rosethorn. Didn't mind buying the book but i didnt really need it (only wanted it for my alt). Primarily wanted SF. Got the ven rose book but didn't get to buy SF.

not technically a "scam" but I was promised something and it didn't get fully "delivered"

[fiery cape]

but u got venom from him?

[prime salmon]

Flowerss knew that I would only buy the book if it also came with him selling SF. If he was never going to sell SF I would've most likely never bought it (bc im currently saving to buy SF)

[minor sun]

wouldnt it b cheaper to just buyout bp for psf o:

[prime salmon]

that's why it's not technically a scam because I got what I paid for (i.e ven rose), but he's a mean person for lying and not keeping his end of the bargain

[prime salmon]

ye but I needed one more besides BP to finish stacks

[minor sun]

ah

[fiery cape]

positive thinking, maybe language barrier, he doesnt understand what you mean ,and mispronounce language to you

[prime salmon]

ty ;w; they fully understood what I meant though. I made sure to clear any miscommunication/language barriers before buying the book

and not only that, someone told me they were using my "name" if that makes sense to get free carries from ppl ik lol

[fiery cape]

oh thats an ass then

[steel python]

Well at least it's not full scam

Unfortunate though

[prime salmon]

ty ;w; i bought mine for 6k from the "scammer" and it looks like there was one on market for 6.5k which got instantly sold

[steel python]

4k is the lowest I've seen for venom

And that was before the buff

6k is fair price imo

[prime salmon]

ye, im not really mad about the book bc its a good skill and i need it for my alt, but its just the act behind it

[steel python]

Yeah of course

[true stirrup]

Anyone try purple CHEER UP yet?

[steel python]

Not a nice move

[prime salmon]

i have it, it doesnt apply the new buff or something. gotta be bugged

[true stirrup]

did u check cat stats after using it

[prime salmon]

i thought it was supposed to give honeybuff? unless im wrong

no i didnt check cat stats ;[

[true stirrup]

no

it gives interaction status to cat

[prime salmon]

ty for reassuring me sir u_u

[true stirrup]

maybe it works

[prime salmon]

yeah, and after i bought the book they logged onto their main and unfriended me lmao

[sharp wedge]

Besties vs Cheer Up is not really a discussion tho

[prime salmon]

idk why they went about it the way they did o.o couldve sold it normally through F5

[true stirrup]

besties 0 dps

Cheer Up maybe some dps

[steel python]

I agree but I wanna see the cook

I've been curious what it does for a long time

[prime salmon]

bro, ive never seen the prices u and dodo see 😭 i must be asleep or something. ive only seen them for 8k+

[steel python]

DM them if you're not comfy sharing

I open market every like 30s when not in a fight

[prime salmon]

ill need to test it later, but its on my alt so the cat wouldnt be that strong anyway 😭

[steel python]

It's a problem ngl

[prime salmon]

unfortunately for the past few days my AMD card has been acting up (not sure why) and i keep getting booted off the game

error message that says something along the lines of D3D device lost" error

[sharp wedge]

Besties allows you to tank hits that you normally might avoid so it's definitely more dps

[ashen monolith]

Yeah

But not rn

[prime salmon]

r u the one who bought it LOL

[ashen monolith]

If its the one jjust now. Yes

[prime salmon]

i was planning on buying it for my other alt..

[true stirrup]

I tank the hits anyway i wont die

[prime salmon]

but i was hesitating u_u

[true stirrup]

i just heal up

[ashen monolith]

I dont mind it higher than the lowest price abit. Since i do need it for focus control

[sharp wedge]

Tree's pizza slice hits hard tho

[ashen monolith]

And the refresh poison is too good to ignore

[true stirrup]

its mostly the damage over time debuff it adds

the actual damage from the hit not too much

[ashen monolith]

I can fit it in sf build if i ever want to switch over

[sharp wedge]

The flower phase pizza does hit a lot tho

[prime salmon]

its DPS loss, no?

[true stirrup]

maybe like 40k?

not that much

[sharp wedge]

Dunno when I got stuck on the green flower and my team didn't save me it hit me for 130k

[true stirrup]

thats from mechanic failure

youre not supposed to survive that

[sharp wedge]

But I did 🙂

[true stirrup]

can survive that without besties

[sharp wedge]

Besties allows you to fail mechanics = more dps

[true stirrup]

with 26k soju

lmao

[sharp wedge]

Yeah but your assassin or bd has 70k

or whatever

Point being it's not entirely correct to stay that besties doesn't provide anything in terms of dps

[river kelp]

Haha matching

[shadow plank]

Hey just got that , any offer to see what ppl offer ? 🙂 EU

[rigid delta]

whatever min purple books go for

[shadow plank]

lmao no it give alot of focus now x)

[brittle gust]

Yeah don’t insult him

I offer 1,6k 100 more than the salvage angle

[shadow plank]

[amber briar]

some1 get purple grapple？

[shadow plank]

i got it yeah

[chrome epoch]

WTB purple sunflower

[amber briar]

fuse？

[shadow plank]

From chest win in auction at Hae Mujin x)

[deep marsh]

https://discord.com/channels/1164688788086345830/1377405057917648949

[brittle gust]

U gonna sell it ?

[shadow plank]

I take offer for now and see

[brittle gust]

5k I geus

[shadow plank]

i never sell it for this price when it's a new skill ^^' but ty for offer i will keep it at this price

[spiral dagger]

😂😂😂

[crude bay]

hello

[serene grotto]

Probably worth 10k

[crude bay]

tell me summoner macro me play Sunflower

[serene grotto]

TTTTTTTTTTTTT

[crude bay]

I don't have purple sunflower, is there a rotation you can suggest me?

[serene grotto]

Its probably not worth the hassle to play blue sf. U need to multi task alot and end up ur dps about the same as hornet

It also depend if u have purple gime light, dnb and the x skill

U will suffer from lack of focus without those

[crude bay]

oke thank you

[knotty rampart]

WTS EU

[shadow plank]

WTBuy Virtuous Mystic Badge Sunflower 🙂

[spiral dagger]

ha

i bought yesterday

+8

[quartz mortar]

WTB PURPLE HORNET PM PLS

[solid kestrel]

WTB Purple Hornet (NA) :3

[warped marlin]

how much are people buying purple drain for rn

[steel python]

I would never pay over 4k for one (NA)

The 5m restriction is pain

[ashen monolith]

just saw this on f5

is it worth getting?

[prime salmon]

In NA prior to patch it was like 3.5k, ppl trying to inflate prices bc of the buff.

[prime salmon]

I've heard mixed reviews. How much r they selling for rn?

[steel python]

7k for that book

Not worth imo

But any of the grabs are good

[fallow bear]

can some1 explain what soulshild to maximice ? now im lvl 50

still worthy to max you profane ? or i go for brightstone?

[steel python]

I prefer 8 profane or 5 profane + 3 kaari

5 bright is fine as well but it depends on the price of the soulshields (need double crit on most of the pieces)

All that matters is getting double crit rolls

[fallow bear]

ok

[steel python]

The 3 set and 5 set stuff is nice but you get so much more stats by having the correct stats on your pieces

[ashen monolith]

Id prolly buy it if its 4-5k

[fallow bear]

85 crit rate to 177 is it lately worth? till bsh soulshild?

[steel python]

No me

[ashen monolith]

Could be yours... im at work

[steel python]

Not at 7k

[steel python]

Profane set gives hp and debuff res, really useful if you're doing harder dungeons for the first time

I'd keep 8 profane if you are going to try for BSH

You have purple sunflower so once you get some levels + upgrades to base gear you can probably get accepted into BSH1's

I'd throw on some cinderlands crit primers and call it a day

[fallow bear]

thank you

i go for profane

[prime salmon]

7k?! Lol it's literally similar to the blue but just gives 20% focus upon grapple? Buggin.

[ashen monolith]

Its party buff i think

For newer content. It is kinda nice

Also nice for sf sum

[rigid delta]

I paid 3k. But people probably caught on it gives honey and are jacking up the price now.

[ashen monolith]

Doesn't the blue drain also gives it?

[rigid delta]

No

[ashen monolith]

Bruh

[rigid delta]

No poor skills allowed

[prime salmon]

Yeah, I know someone who's trying to sell purp drain for 7k I think lol because they wanted to see if they could get a whale to buy it

I'm not sure if it ever sold tho 😂

[rigid delta]

Summoner has no whales to be shilling that much lol

[ashen monolith]

Havent seen it on market. So prolly did

[prime salmon]

This was before patch btw

[rigid delta]

Whoever put 5m on drain needs to be shot

[ashen monolith]

I'd whale for fashion more than my gear lmao

[rigid delta]

And made doom and bloom a target skill

I love getting hit and I just lose F completely

Or the boss moves 1 inch and it misses

[ashen monolith]

Accidentally use dng while fighting for chest

[rigid delta]

Just reminded me of the worst part about the skill

Always active for no reason but to grief you on chests and beluga horn

[ashen monolith]

This is why i stick with dnr

Got sicken of it always active lol

[rigid delta]

The photosynthesis is too good to drop on flower

[ashen monolith]

I make it up with daybreak

Im used to 1second iframe already

[rigid delta]

I like how it gives you back 3 stacks

Should just be 4

[river light]

WTB Purple Sunflower - NA PMO!

[brittle gust]

@paper trench hm for focus grab

[paper trench]

hm?

[brittle gust]

How much

[paper trench]

thought about 11k

[brittle gust]

Hmm think lower

[paper trench]

this morning there was 1 in market for 9 and instantly sold

[brittle gust]

Last sold for 1,5k to tarmiel

[paper trench]

lucky dude

this grab is for sure gamechanger for some groups with bm, destro. its insane for 9sec grab with focus

[brittle gust]

Yeh but it ain’t selling for the price I’m sry

[paper trench]

and for the smoothering paw grab i heard some offers for 12k and smoothering paw is worse cause u overwrite your 10sec def down and good sums prepare 10sec def down before the 9 sec grab

[brittle gust]

Sf summoner want that they don’t hammer

[paper trench]

4 sec change nothing

[brittle gust]

U want that one in the long run anyway

I’m hornet I can reapply hammer every 8 sec

[paper trench]

i know, but thats why u dont want smoothering paw as hornet

[brittle gust]

I want that in the long run

[paper trench]

unlucky teammates then if they run with u xd

[brittle gust]

So many times u can’t apply hammer in hexwood while ccing

[paper trench]

u literally waste 5 sec on your long 9sec grab if u play smoothering paw as hornet

[brittle gust]

I think most ppl are happy to have me dw

[paper trench]

i didnt played the new dungeon yet idk about it

[steel python]

I think it's fine to have

The grab and focus is what matters in the end

[paper trench]

ofc its fine but that was not the point xd im sure smoothering paw is the worst for hornet players even if that is very broken anyways

[steel python]

Losing some uptime is not a huge deal overall

[paper trench]

yep

[rigid delta]

Focus grab sucks in pve

Better in pvp

Your better off slapping another flower in there

Not worth 12k lmao

[sage haven]

with purple venomous rosethorn, what is venomous butterfly swarm?

[paper trench]

2nd lmb

[sage haven]

aah allright thanks

[ashen monolith]

@steel python is the smoothering paw still up?

Im heading home to grab it rn

[steel python]

Nope gonno

hornets nest is 50k

[ashen monolith]

Lmaooo

Wait so somebody got it for 7k?

Or did the poster took it down

[steel python]

no clue sorry

[spiral dagger]

i sold yesterday for 5k

[ashen monolith]

It could've been mine tho...

[spiral dagger]

WTB PURPLE SUNFLOWER EU

[quartz mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1365661868802179175/1377770893597478923/image.png?ex=683a2ca2&is=6838db22&hm=3dc273df70936e59808982a1e9082d1ee3dbc6199c281a1a7f3c5ca1572a964e& whch one of these is better ?

[maiden flint]

2 paws are better than 1

[brittle gust]

left does like 4k dmg other one reduce def

[tawdry orbit]

second one,always

[ashen monolith]

Left or right?

[tawdry orbit]

Right :/

[chrome epoch]

someone want that?

[spiral dagger]

[steel python]

[rare flicker]

@spiral dagger srry one question, for HN it's better DnR than DnG?

[spiral dagger]

yes

DnR is better than DnG

same with Petal storm toss is better than hive swarm

[rare flicker]

thankss

[ashen monolith]

but you gotta have good focus recov lol

[spiral dagger]

on hornet u dont need that, trust me - cat Q and daybreak is enough
also kabooom gives u 2 focus regen on crit

• always u have drain, which proc your badge

[maiden flint]

what's the point of DnR, hit once and use patch?

[spiral dagger]

u hit it and its 5 hit, no animation, no lock, u can do lmb/rmb while using dnr
5 hit = more crit = more instant hornets
brair gives 10 hit again so..
more crits = more hornets = better dps i guess

[maiden flint]

oh i thought you were stuck doing the animation to get 5 hits, assumed u canceleld after the first to use patch proc

[ashen monolith]

wts NA

[brave cedar]

Trying to buy Purp Drain or Daybreak NA

[steel python]

@hearty light your xp badge

[hearty light]

no gems right now

[steel python]

Go get

[prime salmon]

@solid kestrel idk why hornet is expensive now

[steel python]

People dumb

Anyone who is close to clearing tree either already has the hornets they want or are waiting for the BP

Those who clear tree aren't going to need another purple

[serene grotto]

in taiwan server its 8k per hornet

[ashen monolith]

WTB daybreak and Prickly. pmo asap

@prime salmon if your prickly still up

[steel python]

They see good dps specs at expensive prices and think hornets can fetch that price as well

[solid kestrel]

yeah people are just dumb, it was 50k earlier, just got to wait until they relist at a realistic price

[prime salmon]

nah o; not buying prickly anymore, ty tho :3

[ashen monolith]

oh i thought you were selling xD

[prime salmon]

oh no LOL

[prime salmon]

they saw 1% of ur power and understand the value of hornet now..

[solid kestrel]

until they see waffle

[rose juniper]

People need to understand that when there's no one selling something, didn't mean you can up the price by x3 then someone going to magically buy it.

[lament skiff]

Maybe they’ll give us market history one day

[trail notch]

how much ap do u need for twisted

[sharp wedge]

If you wanna do it at lv55 I would say you need 1000+ with 4k both crits, 2k accuracy and preferably legendary skill

Even then I don't think a Summoner can be in the clear party at lv55

[patent briar]

some people have been using 30k dps in hae mujin as a benchmark

which sounds about right

[sharp wedge]

He's talking Lab

[patent briar]

oh nvm thought it was tree

[sharp wedge]

I don't think any summoner has cleared lab yet

There is one 4man team on EU that cleared Lab yesterday and they're all 50-60k on Mujin

And I haven't seen any Summoner do even 40k on Mujin

[patent briar]

I think I could maybe get close to 40k in mujin with an ideal party, with a hornet summoner applying poison/def down for me and someone stronger than me holding aggro so I can just dps freely lol

[sharp wedge]

Yeah but you couldn't replicate that in Lab :<

And still, your Mujin should be closer to 50k 😄

[steel python]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343867559170015324/1377152323209396246/image.png?ex=683a8f8c&is=68393e0c&hm=17d3296556e76d18ec201538ddc829b4f319ea2c42f15ee170e8b19eae3f1e3d&

You guys see this yet

(BD)

[shadow plank]

....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

00000000000000.

[foggy cedar]

Offer?

[outer hamlet]

hey i was wondering if with SF you still run a rosethorn ? since honey buff i have no focus problem so it's useless unless i have to bait in mujin or do pvp

[foggy cedar]

Probably not since you lose GM stacks

[ashen monolith]

dms

[solid kestrel]

oh yeah wonder if anyone has reported it :) somehow bd dps is like half on the meter

[odd yacht]

WTS EU

+10 Sunflower Virt Soul Badge | 160 accu 19k hp 195 cdmg

[solid kestrel]

you're rerolling classes? o:

[odd yacht]

nope

[solid kestrel]

you're quitting?

stay with your friends a bit longer

[odd yacht]

I'll stay with them while selling off my stuff

[steel python]

Purple summflowers

I need some help

I hear using honey when 1s left on overflow will massively extend overflow

Like for the full duration of the honey buff

Can you confirm?

[paper trench]

yes

[steel python]

And next questions

Do we use all of our honey skills at the 1s mark? Or do we want to say save drain for badge proc to get into overflow

And at what point do we use DnG, since it has different gcd than SS

[paper trench]

problem is that some spells like DnG needs longer than 1sec to cast and atk again
i didnt test it for that long but i use drain and DnG if ssf is at like 2sec

[steel python]

fair yeah

Do you have an estimate on the DPS increase compared to pre honey?

[paper trench]

i feel more safe with that because i messed up alot if i tried it at 1 sec ssf left

[steel python]

Yeah no doubt, gotta account for lag and buttons not registering

[paper trench]

im playing sf for like 1 week so im not that used into the sf rotation

[grand fog]

Yeah i feel noticing it at 2 seconds usually ends up being 1 by time i proc anyways

[steel python]

Yeah I'm sure when more summs figure out the tech we'll get more data

I'm hornets so I'm shambles this patch

[paper trench]

im from germany so my english is overall not the best, but i try my best
also im not sure if im playing it correctly

i tried to use honey buff at the end of overflow to extend the overflow as long as the honey buff is activated
pro: longer overflow time
contra: u loose a bit time from overflow if u cast drain/DnG in the overflow time

i tried to use honey buff at like 8 photo stacks to go into overflow with new honey buff
pro: no cast time into overflow
contras: i assume there are only 0.2 sec overflow extend each ssf

[grand fog]

Ye i mostly just wing it, and things turn out well lol

Ye from my experience i prefer to use doom n gloom to enter overflow

Will say one of the weirder things is half the time the time ill still be in overflow when supposedly it has run out

[steel python]

Yeah I think that's why we want to use honey skills at the end I feel

[steel python]

Your English is fine, don't worry about it

I think it's worth to use at the end cuz you're using 1s of overflow to extend it like 6s

[chrome epoch]

[fallow bear]

Yes. First overflow after 4 sec. Use honeybuff

Ist Worth to Trigger Mystik badge at start ?

[grand fog]

Ah realize how i made that sound, like both honey and overflow ran out but get a couple more seconds of overflow beyond the the buff being active

Something ill prob have to record next time i notice it

[grand fog]

Ye it happens at times where neither icon is active, ill try to see if i can replicate it later, p sure its just a visual bug tho

[fiery cape]

@prime salmon your beloved soulmate

[prime salmon]

ima just think of buying that LMB book as a blessing in disguise

[steel python]

Wait that's the person?

[prime salmon]

ye its one of their characters

[prime salmon]

@steel python

[steel python]

Yeah dw was just curious

[solid kestrel]

i'll try my luck with that person XD

[prime salmon]

@solid kestrel i think you'll be fine as long as they post the book on F5

just dont believe them if they tell u "ill sell u hornet if u buy x book first"

[solid kestrel]

yeah just a normal trade, went fine, had to haggle quite a bit

if anyone's interested, i paid 16k in the end, more than i want to but then again it's not too much more owo

[steel python]

16k

i shuoldve tried

[prime salmon]

Is 16k normal price nowadays for hornet? Or is it still 20k o:?

[solid kestrel]

i'd say 15k owo

[steel python]

i would pay 16k

[solid kestrel]

if you're impatient up to 20

especially with people finishing bp soon tm, current hornets might reroll to sun

[prime salmon]

I don't remember if I've ever seen a Hornet for 16k 😭 but then again I don't check that book often

[solid kestrel]

it's just so hard getting summoner books because no one is playing

[prime salmon]

Ik you're conjuring a devious plan to snatch those hornets up 😭

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-gif-1974600105454603239

[steel python]

She doesnt have many more slots left LOL

[prime salmon]

LOOOOL she can replace her blues with purps

[steel python]

4 blues left to replace

[prime salmon]

Nia giga whale, will finish in no time

[steel python]

wait maybe 3 if she hasnt put it on yet

[solid kestrel]

3-4 i usually keep shroud, just didn't put it back in yet

[steel python]

[solid kestrel]

what do i do once i have all books
i'll fall behind sunflowers

[solid kestrel]

must... top up...

[steel python]

sell them and buy sunflowers

[prime salmon]

Gimme a small donation of a million dollars owo

[solid kestrel]

i need that donation too, if you know someone pls let me know

[spiral dagger]

WTB PURPLE SUNFLOWER EU

[vestal sage]

Sometimes when I still have overflow left, and I use something that gives honey buff, my overflow buff icon disappears along with the honey buff. It's just a visual bug, so maybe you're experiencing this as well?

Also seems ppl picked up using Honey buff near the end of Overflow, so does anyone know how to ani cancel Drain into Sunflower reliably?

They're on different GCD groups, but you seem to be animation locked in Drain

Hmm.. does anyone know if KR's overflow effect functions the same way? I guess it might be considered a bug, and will be fixed later.

[still herald]

WTS NA

[marsh maple]

WTS purple sunflower NA, pmo

[chrome epoch]

WTB purple Sunflower EU

[paper trench]

Yeah sometimes i got the same idk why but everything seems working but i dont see the buffs. Next rotation everything works again

[river light]

WTB Purple Sunflower - NA PMO!

[marsh maple]

WTS purple venomous rosethorn NA, PMO

[quartz mortar]

who bought all hornets need them pls WTB HORNET PURPLE EU

[zinc vault]

i sold my sunflowers cause i didn't want to play it

[paper trench]

u sell or u sold?

[uncut fable]

oof trigun nice transmute

[zinc vault]

i wanted to play hornet

but i guess not anymore

also sold all of my sunflowers already

[amber briar]

at least u can get 1 from bp

[zinc vault]

anyone needs 7 purple hornets

[amber briar]

eye very need it i guess

[uncut fable]

you could also just get rid of that legendary flower ☺️

how many tries did that take you

[zinc vault]

i think it was 1 out of 5-6 tries

and got it first try

[paper trench]

u playing na?

[zinc vault]

@quartz mortar 👋

eu

[still herald]

WTB Prickly Stance NA

[spiral dagger]

gzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

very nice

WTS EU

[quartz mortar]

thanks triguun thinking of me i got one

[lament skiff]

What did that outfit go for on Moonwater?

[shadow plank]

45k around for Monke

[lament skiff]

Thaaanks

[shadow plank]

When SF SSF isthe only source off dmg you have :3

[trail notch]

is DnB purple book useable for sf?

[river light]

WTB Purple Sunflower - NA PMO!

[spiral dagger]

no

only DnG on sunflower

[sly spear]

WTS on NA
Core is @ 3k with crit rate and piercing

[trail notch]

thats what i got at lvl 50

😦

[prime salmon]

friend sold me their books

[shy pond]

selling these on NA

[rigid delta]

how much for that earring

[shy pond]

15k?

[steel python]

My friend's BD 2 mantra double crit true ear sold instantly at 15k

Probably fair price cuz summ not as competitive as BD

Might get some summs in a bidding war tho

[shy pond]

i got em both listed for 20k each but yeah i thought 15 was fair.

i payed 15k during poh patch for them LOL

but they were base

[shy pond]

[steel python]

I love seeing my fellow summoners compete

(I have sent images to some summs I know)

[shy pond]

[prime salmon]

grapple focus skill for sale

[steel python]

Damn I need to favorite that

Nobody buy it

Wait like 4h

[prime salmon]

LOOOOL

do u think its worth 5k? its pretty much the same as blue except it gives 20% focus recovery

._. $50 for that one upgrade

[steel python]

Focus recovery is huge for certain classes

It really depends who you run with

[prime salmon]

idk maybe im just mr krabs 😭 bc im like for utility skills why is it so expensive esp when its hardly different from blue

[steel python]

Like when you grapple, your dragonchar FMs and fire KFMs lose a source of focus regen

(normally)

But when you get this book they can go ham

It also means that sunflower can just hold rmb

For hornets it's free focus cap

My clan has Puncture BMs, Dragonchar FMs, and Bombard sins so focus generation is hugeee

I bet if I was true f2p and asked my clan to help fund it, they'd probably pitch in

[prime salmon]

i see :u

luckily theres 3 variants of the skill

and they all have focus regen

[steel python]

Summ has the best grab as well since it is like a 1k DPS loss for the team and doesn't mess around with boss hitbox

[shadow plank]

and around 8 sec of free dps 🙂

[rigid delta]

Its not worth it

if it was 100% focus recovery prob

[steel python]

For wb people i'd agree

but like you get free sunflowers during that time pretty much too

[rigid delta]

sunflowers already free during it though

[rigid delta]

debatable

im not sure if its 20% every hit

[steel python]

its 2 focus every hit for sure

like other grabs

well ok i dont have it to test

but i'm like 99% sure

Damn its still up for 5k

[rigid delta]

idk it depends

if highland was 6 man

id say yeah

[steel python]

It'd be eventually

[rigid delta]

but some comps you can't cc

or people just refuse to lol

[steel python]

dont you have to cc

like raging lash comeback

and purple anklebiter too

[rigid delta]

tab stun?

oh no

those are not worth the slot lol

[steel python]

Chibi specced into it

stun not ankle

I'm also gigabiased cuz im hornets so im utility already

[rigid delta]

arent the kr summoners just giga flower with no util

like naryu made them drop util just to clear

[steel python]

I wouldn't be surprised

But we are not clearing naryu as summ any time soon

[rigid delta]

I mainly value wb as well

10g is a lot

[steel python]

Fair but like I said before, it mainly depends on your other teammates

Cuz puncture BM being able to just animation cancel without interruptions is worth way more than like 3% DPS on sunflower

Hornets is not even a question

[rigid delta]

my thought on that is always

if you're gonna support on summoner

you're better off supporting the party on a better class like fm lmao

[steel python]

FM is nowhere near the amount of support Summ brings

[rigid delta]

I meant that as dps

[steel python]

Well then at that point we should all just run 4x wind sever BDs

Regardless, if you wanna say focus pin is bad, I'll agree with you purely so I can get cheaper books for myself

We both agree it bad, now list it at 2k

Don't read anything above this

[rigid delta]

I would like it for pvp

actually fixes a lot of issues trying to kill

actually our damage is so bad I dont think it fixes anything

one bm z pull into ld does more damage than entire duration of cat pin lol

[steel python]

[true stirrup]

wtf 15 for those?

thats kind of scam

i got a better set of earring/ring and they were 10k each

[outer hamlet]

would we agree that gubong soul core isn't that good for non burst clesses,
like i understand for sin and KFM you pair it with blue buff but as a summ i'd wrather get poh/mujin and free a slot of skill book plus doing controls with summoner can feel horible when the tab is on cooldown because the boss fust mooved or your cat got thrown away (the cat is so bad in neo)

[rigid delta]

gubong is bis for every class until the ap change

[true stirrup]

My summoner got a purple gubong first try

And I can't get one on my FM

8 attempts

[rigid delta]

I have never seen one on market lol

are you eu

[true stirrup]

Like 8 boxes ope.

Open

[rigid delta]

actually

ive never seen one on a summoner lol

[true stirrup]

I'm NA

[rigid delta]

i think purple gives 45 ap as well

[true stirrup]

Purple has a larger damage radius than blue and green

[outer hamlet]

it ll get buffed and give 60ap in the future i saw

[rigid delta]

yeah purple hae>blue dev

[true stirrup]

Note the range

[rigid delta]

but purple dev > purple hae/poe

[true stirrup]

12m instead of 10m

[rigid delta]

also you can cast dev during down time and pre pull

what I like about the soul the most

[true stirrup]

Wait I've literally ran bsh2 runs with you before lmao

KFC logo on meter

[rigid delta]

ye

[true stirrup]

The hae soul is super easy to miss, can't be pre cast if the boss is untargetable

I had one on my FM, tried it, kinda trash

[rigid delta]

its mainly for the ap increase over blue dev

since purple is never up for summoner

[wet jacinth]

Nia said the same thing about Summoner and BM

I wouldnt worry about it too much 🤣

[true stirrup]

okay and FM doesnt get close to a properly played KFM/BD

so...

[dreamy skiff]

Your point? The previous discussion was about Summoner to FM. I wasn't implying that FM is a good class or anything like it.

[true stirrup]

The point was that it isn't really that important or meaningful to compare damage between classes.

[dreamy skiff]

It is, considering this game is not about playing mechanics or anything but straight dps

[true stirrup]

Summoner brings more than just damage, like focus restoration for team mates and defense down debuff on boss.

or cat pin

[dreamy skiff]

I am well aware

But comparisons have to be made when the game is just a big dps dummy simulator

[lament skiff]

For the new grapples, is the bonus recovery only during the first 4 seconds

Or the whole time

[shadow plank]

the whole time cat is on ennemy 🙂 so 7-8 sec if you time your skill

So really op x)

[spiral dagger]

buy legendary/purple sunflower EU

[solid kestrel]

WTB Legendary Hornet NA :)

[river light]

WTB Purple Sunflower - NA PMO!

[vestal sage]

WTB Moonwater Sunflower Mystic Badge, 1k NA

[true stirrup]

WTB Legendary Hornet NA 140k

[brittle gust]

@sharp wedge how much for wep?

[sharp wedge]

Check DMs

[prime salmon]

lol

[quartz mortar]

WTB

[trail notch]

does the meter take in account ur cat now?

[maiden flint]

only for yourself, or if cat has same name than character afaik

[chrome epoch]

yooo gz, tell me if u wanna sell uwu

[rigid delta]

thats a steal

[spiral dagger]

no, tell me first thx

[ashen monolith]

stop hovering my cat SMH @solid kestrel

https://tenor.com/view/angry-pepe-pepe-the-frog-frog-triggered-gif-15409401

[solid kestrel]

i'll kill everything in sight :)

but for some reason everyone decided to be in the center in the end and you managed to cap

[fallow bear]

what is this skill worth?

[shadow plank]

1k5 2k EU

[prime salmon]

WTB anklebiter + cat pin NA

[sharp wedge]

WTS EU

Skills

Gimme Light
Besties
Daybreak
Prickly Stance
Anklebiter
Doom 'n' Gloom

Items

True Siren Staff | 153 Cdmg + 89 Crit | 109 Cdmg + 101 Crit Psyche
True Poharan Ring | 102 Cdmg + 134 Crit | 2x Mantra | 229 Crit + 125 Acc Psyche | 15 % bonus exp
True Blood Mane Gloves | 116 Cdmg + 102 Acc | 2x Mantra | 171 Crit + 104 Acc Psyche | 15 % bonus exp
True Pirate Bracelet | 101 Cdmg + 114 Crit | 133 Cdmg + 2k HP Psyche | 10 % bonus exp
True Blue Dragon Belt | 181 Crit + 131 Cdmg | 131 Cdmg + 96 Crit Psyche | 10% bonus exp

Misc

+6 Virtuous Soul Badge | 66 Acc + 16k HP + 117 Cdmg
Virtuous Soul Badge | 25 % bonus exp
Superior Devourer's Soul Core | 53 Cdmg + 60 Acc

[twilit gyro]

WTS NA

[spiral dagger]

WTB PURPLE SUNFLOWER EU

[steel python]

Should specify whether you're NA or EU

[quartz mortar]

WTB EU PLS

[steel python]

Fail to sell -> Relist higher

[blazing sigil]

WTB trash purple books 1.1k each pm

[brittle gust]

Soon hornets are 10k each

With ppl finshing bps

Man thought he could increase the price

[foggy cedar]

I got 100 gold two times this past week

[foggy cedar]

I don't know man I think I do okay damage whilst providing utility simultaneously

[solid kestrel]

WTB Legendary Hornet NA :)

[chrome epoch]

WTB Legendary Sunflower EU

[steel python]

WTB Legendary Def Hammer NA

[spiral dagger]

i will buy it too pls

pay more than him

[paper trench]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/286881842789875713/1085839638624731246/ezgif-3-af1195d740-1.gif

[spiral dagger]

[supple spire]

WTB Legendary sunflower EU

[tawdry orbit]

purple F give Honey buff?

Hive Swarm too but only 4 sec

[paper trench]

blue hive swarm 4sec
purple DnG 6sec
purple drain 6sec

[tawdry orbit]

thx

is it stackin?

i mean if get hive swarm and F

or this effect have any kd?

[paper trench]

not really its get up to the max. new duration

[tawdry orbit]

y i get it :3

[quartz mortar]

guys need help

after Doom and root

i cant cast this

the purple one doesnt apear

[paper trench]

yep its bugged

[quartz mortar]

like wtfffff

[paper trench]

u can only use it right now from stealth

annoying as fk

[quartz mortar]

but they need to fix that right

[tawdry orbit]

w8ing fix

[paper trench]

i hope on wednesday

but idk if its even worth to play cause afaik only the cat get 20% buff not u but i didnt tested it
maybe the blue one is enough for the possible crits
and also maybe its not even worth the skill slot if thers only a possibility to crit the 5hit for the insta cast hornet but i dodnt test it

[foggy cedar]

I doubt you can afford it

[tawdry orbit]

blue works

[tawdry orbit]

w8 is it have any difference with blue book?

[spiral dagger]

it is not. only if u have focus issue
it gives 20% dmg FOR YOUR CAT only : D

so if u dont have focus issues with hornets, not worth to waste a spot.
also im not using this even on sunflower build.

[solid kestrel]

why'd you think so?

do you want to sell yours? :D

[marsh maple]

WTS purple venomous rosethorn NA, PMO

[spiral dagger]

Anyone selling sunflower on EU? I need my last book pls

[sage haven]

does purple besties full heal with the 50% HP or how does it work

[lament skiff]

You get a heal equal to the bonus hp

[sage haven]

aah allright

[lament skiff]

I could've sworn that purple smothering was only 9999 a half hour ago

[paper trench]

yes cause someone bought it from klad to resell i guess

still funny, that ppl buy smothering paw for so much more than the other 2 grabs
grabs are basicly 99% the same cause u only want it in the skillslot for the focus reg

[empty portal]

Can you go from 2x to 3x mantra slots by evolving?

[solid kestrel]

apparently yes but it must be like a 0.1% chance or something stupid low

[solemn oar]

never actually seen someone get a mantra slot, everyone says its a thing though

[solid kestrel]

https://www.bladeandsoul.com/en-us/news/article/15076/neo-equipment-guide-feb-2025

nevermind it has been removed

so i guess the guide used to be wrong

and there never was a chance to get mantra/ sc slots to begin with?

[spiral dagger]

Yes

It was a fake

I was checking this guide too right now, and I was confused about that they removed it 😂😂😂

Cuz I’m pretty sure there was info about „chance to get while upgrade”

[sharp wedge]

Yeah there was. They removed it and apologized for misinforming us xD

[steel python]

For my small brain, smothering is the best because it gives you an accurate countdown of how long the pin is going to last

Since it give 4s def down

So if you're busy doing other mechanics and lose track of how long your pin is, you have an actual counter

(or just git gud)

[prime salmon]

shhhh dont tell them dodo lol

[spiral dagger]

ye, why he tell ppl everything

[steel python]

[rigid delta]

bro you have legendary hornets lmao

I think fm with similar gear still blows that out of the water

[true stirrup]

Selll me a legendary book

pls

ill buy hornets legendary

or vine whip

or rumblebees

[rigid delta]

legendary flower still better atm

but no one has it

at least on na

[spiral dagger]

we have 2 on EU

[true stirrup]

@foggy cedar 160k for hornets hmu

[rigid delta]

utility summoner just seems like a meme

kr summoners dropped it

especially if its for just 3 people

[true stirrup]

90k for vine whip, rumblebees or strike defense decrease

[rigid delta]

5 i'd argue is good though

[rigid delta]

vine whip gotta be a war crime for making legendary

just damage by like 2k lmao

[outer hamlet]

buy 90k -> dismantle -> 4 fragments -> -500g -> leg SF -> profit

[true stirrup]

buy 90k --> dismantle 3 fragments --> ????

[rigid delta]

1 fragment

[true stirrup]

33% chance to get 3 fragments

[outer hamlet]

nah i'd just be good at the game and get 5

[rigid delta]

Can you pm support like live

and say you're upset you didn't get the trove item you wanted

and they gives you keys lmao

do that with skill book frags

[gusty kiln]

Support in this game won’t even revert an accidental insignia fusion

[solemn oar]

Neo support is heavily nerfed from live. I tried to get a blue book back i accidentally deleted couple months back, and they kindly told me to kick rocks

[lament skiff]

With or without shoes on?

[solemn oar]

think i was allowed socks but thats it

[lament skiff]

Well at least it wasnt walking on legos

[spiral dagger]

my friend discard his purple core by mistake, they give it him back but..

he can't wear it or roll stats

🙂

and now there is no respond for last idk, 3 weeks?

[steel python]

[steel python]

I've tried that with purple books back when they were giga expensive, no luck

[chrome epoch]

WTB legendary Sunflower EU

[spiral dagger]

stop doing this

if u buy it, i quit

[sturdy orbit]

Should I replace purple heat ray damage for another blue hornet nest

[karmic flint]

U cant stop him his wallet is to strong

[steel python]

Yes

[chrome epoch]

eww kacperinios wallet is maxed

[chrome epoch]

no one selling anyway 😭

@zinc vault sell me yours please :3

[zinc vault]

I want to play with it tho

[uncut fable]

MSP waiting room 😴

[paper trench]

You can just look at the red looking normal grab Symbol and extend at 15 and 12 sec

[wet jacinth]

Make a macro.
Tab > 2s > X > 2s > C

[steel python]

Big strats

[wet jacinth]

(Put it on tab aswell to make it eassier)

You might want to do XXXX CCCC to ensure your hornet macro doesn't overrule it tho

Game input and stuff like that

[steel python]

[spiral dagger]

Are u ded?? Long time no see, can u sell me your sunflowers???

https://tenor.com/view/hello-gif-13062150862685254762

[karmic flint]

Kek w

[spiral dagger]

so yes? will u seell me one, i just need one pls

i have 14k divines

[solid kestrel]

WTB Legendary Hornet Nest (NA) :3

[karmic flint]

No?

[spiral dagger]

[uncut fable]

are you gambling for legy kacper or you don't like the rng 😅

[outer hamlet]

XDD

[spiral dagger]

i did few attempts but i dont like it

better to wait for someone to buy or some leggy user quit

my dmg is enough for everything

[knotty rampart]

WTS EU

[brittle gust]

How much u do on last boss hexwood?

25,1k with hornet I’m gonna geus 32k for u?

[wet jacinth]

Jeez you whale

[spiral dagger]

depends on party

but 28-30+k is ok

[sturdy orbit]

Should I replace purple heat ray damage for another blue hornet nest

[spiral dagger]

sure

[brittle gust]

Weapon was a 3k increase ?

[spiral dagger]

i dont know, i dont checked it

[quartz mortar]

Come With me one run I boost you over 32 k

Hahaha

[warped basin]

is it my idea or almost every big summoner i see in EU drops the dr skills? and put more sunflowerss?

[wet jacinth]

Every selffish wb summoner, yes.

You might be amazed but having party utility doesn't reflect to great worldboss dps

[warped basin]

i thought that there was a greater reason for that :p

[wet jacinth]

Yes, more dps

Bigger epenis

Good for stroking ego

[spiral dagger]

i hhave utility skills for party

and 32 gm sunflower

1 left

summoner can have 36 gm stacks like fire kfm with tiger strike

cuz we need other skills for party/our buffs

[warped basin]

full purple sunflower books i imagine right ?, could you pls share your skill set ?

[spiral dagger]

sure

[warped basin]

ty

[true stirrup]

Or their party they usually do dungeons or other content with doesn't have a need for those skills because someone already has them, so they don't have them on, and don't want to pay to re-slot skills which gets expensive

@foggy cedar 165k for legendary hornets hmu

[true stirrup]

I mean you need top 5 to get the good loot box from wb

I give 0 plogs about e peen but I would very much like my prime loot box for the gold and card boxes

[warped basin]

anyone know if Cards set Onrush level affect the chance for 3x hits ? Description say that bigger onrush level does more additional dmg but there is not info about chance %.

[spiral dagger]

i guess its the same chance

and we are getting just additional dmg

[true stirrup]

Does not, i think you saw my answer in the other channel.

[spiral dagger]

im using: skyheaven (smite7), baylee (onrush7) and grandpa (drain7)

[warped basin]

i am using skyheaven, threat of moonwater plains and i ahve to decide between ferocious plains predator or desert quueens. I would like big guns but no luck with winter mane card.

[spiral dagger]

Take something what gives better stats for you and your setup

I could go for legendary but buying essences right now it’s not worth when they ban all bots
Also not worth to farm it.. whoever was doing that before mass bans was just smart :/

[knotty vale]

wtb purple sunflower na

[true stirrup]

well nobody knew it was gunna happen