#Summoner

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sinful cove
shy pond
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selling 2x purple hornet 25k each 😃 NA

spiral dagger
sinful cove
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Ty, selling it xD

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dissapointed it was not sunflower but.....oh well

spiral dagger
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wanna talk about this?

warped marlin
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gratz to the pvp books king

spiral dagger
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thx

sinful cove
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I mean.....all i see there is a waste of gems xD

spiral dagger
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Thx

orchid bronze
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Vine whip oh no

sharp wedge
spiral dagger
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im 0/3 and its over for me
maybe someday or if this game not die in next 2 months

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steam server will be a verification for our servers

karmic flint
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steam server can also mean death of our server

sharp wedge
spiral dagger
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ye but i mean that: if someone is far behind right now, it will be better to start fresh on new server
many ppl who was mad on bots: will start again on new server
especially when there will be some kind of events
compare to our situation now - it seems much better
we have almost nothing, kr had plenty of events atm - we had 2 (?)
they wanted to catch up patches with KR to add everything in the same time but KR will have silverfrost soon, we dont even have announcement of warlock
all what we got now is shadow date change on battlepass - it should be 20/05 and now we have 27/05 - so again 1 week delay of next patch

sinful cove
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warlock will come in end june - july

sharp wedge
spiral dagger
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i think they will not merge purple + steam server, i believe they will merge our servers (cinderlands+moonwater) and keep steam out of this

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but time will tell what they gonna do
all what we can is just wait and see

sharp wedge
spiral dagger
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its ncsoft, they can't even add patch notes before maint WeirdChair

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we will see

sinful cove
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tbh all i wanted with steam is to be able to use it to play the current servers but...since that wont be possible likely....I am over it xD

chrome epoch
spiral dagger
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kinda

chrome epoch
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the gamba makes no sense in this game

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its so expensive

elder veldt
coarse sphinx
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what is this rainbow build

spiral dagger
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243 it is a code

maiden flint
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how important is virtuous mystic badge? the 8s from moonwater sounds good enough to me bns_nervous

crisp talon
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i bought a virtuous badge finally

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just to start building stat on it

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it is like

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what

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20 acc 20 crit dmg if u roll it properly ?

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at like +3

spiral dagger
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2 sec is nice on sunflower, on hornet not that much but still badges are not that expensive most of them max 3k

stone aspen
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is accuracy still important. now that most ppl r just supplementing it with detect card effect and running CR/CD everything

steel python
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Hornets can run detect

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I feel like sunflower wants to have acc though

crisp talon
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be me : bd

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RMB x3

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1 miss

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can't F

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GG dps

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playing without 100% accuracy actualy deadge

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sunflower might be in a similar boat i guess cuz

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if ur sunflower miss -3 focus

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GG

steel python
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It's you standing there with 0 focus

crisp talon
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f u dodo

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where my bsh party

steel python
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Iunno

crisp talon
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jk

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i don't rly play

steel python
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Gotta be on when group inviting NODDERS

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Or just send this to anyone

spiral dagger
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from idk 53 i have like 0 evades but i have 1,4k acc

spiral dagger
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sell sunflower badges on EU
+8 soul, +10 mystic
if any1 interested let me know

PROBABLY I WILL GO PLAY HORNET :))) BUT NOT SURE, I have emotional problems and change my mind every 39 sec
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE ALERT

steel python
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Damage sucks NODDERS

river kelp
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Is that why u kept selling ur sunflower bns_nervous

crisp talon
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You not even on my friend list

crisp talon
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YOU NAME IS NOT EVEN PUSHEEN

karmic flint
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U already have one

chrome epoch
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but

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stacking

karmic flint
chrome epoch
solid kestrel
knotty rampart
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even if ping is good i feel like hornet is abit more support oriented while sunflower is dps focused

spiral dagger
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Bro I really don’t need recommendations, all what I need is a hospital 🏥
I was playing hornets, then sunflowers then hornets and again sunflower
So dw, right now I don’t want to change XD like I said 39sec and I’m done with my “new plan”

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I just don’t have much to doo, until patch

chrome epoch
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a legendary sunflower would be great

chrome epoch
wet jacinth
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"Hello I am a budget Dragonchar forcemaster" nerdcat

wet jacinth
# chrome epoch can you explain your point

U either go Hornets and can do all mechanics and utility without sacrificing anything.
Or you go Sunflower and go full stack sunflower and just stand there DPSing like a Char FM (without Char FM's dmg).
Doing def reduc and mechanics on Sunflower ur just gimping yourself...

knotty rampart
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heard gold sunflower + sunflower stacking is top 3 dmg tho

chrome epoch
wet jacinth
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Or you will just loose dmg.

chrome epoch
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but thats fine

wet jacinth
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If you think so, That is what gimping means.

chrome epoch
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but the gameplay itself isnt boring

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u actually have to do lots of stuff right to min max

wet jacinth
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But then we return to my previous statement and see it's an Opinion, Wich I still have Giggle

spiral dagger
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sunflower dmg compare to hornet is giga broken

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but all should play what they want

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i will play both cuz i have emotional damage

mighty radish
spiral dagger
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d a u m n

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i have a tip for you

wet jacinth
spiral dagger
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do 10 accs on moonwater if u are playing here
and just lvlup for 50 till u get free sunflower

wet jacinth
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Winderlands dracthyr_yay_animated

mighty radish
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i gave up trying to get any books. i just farm mats now

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till the game shuts down

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xD

spiral dagger
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nice

mighty radish
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havent seen legendary drops in 3 weeks either

spiral dagger
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wow

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and how many dung per day

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are u doing

mighty radish
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daily i run purple about twice and blue, weekends i try to do min 10 runs of each

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i dont have time to do 100 a day

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so yea

wet jacinth
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Ur doing no dungs and complain you aren't seen a 0.05% droprate item

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I mean...

mighty radish
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i know i know

spiral dagger
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when i was below 55lvl, i was doing like 20-30 oldman per day (love ddos event)

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  • i waste 1 more potion on poharan, chef and cs
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cuz i wanted their card, poharan and chef solo and cs 3manrun

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now i hit 55 like week ago and i just burn energy and stay in mushin

wet jacinth
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U finished the game POG

spiral dagger
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im waiting for free slot cuz want to do second summoner

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cat build ~!

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3 days left

mighty radish
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bdx what would be considered "running the dungs" on a daily?

wet jacinth
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I am confusion.
Dailys are just doing every dungeons once of the quest.

mighty radish
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but what would be considered good amount of runs to actually achieve drops then? 10, 100, 1000 a day?

wet jacinth
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1 if you're lucky.
500 if you're unlucky.

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Wanna enjoy the game? Just run the dung and don't care.

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Have fun, Don't drool over loot.

mighty radish
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that is what i try to do without it becoming work

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i complete all my dungeon runs everyday

wet jacinth
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The issue is when you are "chasing" something, it becomes a Chore and everytime you don't get it, you get angry/dissapointed/...

solid kestrel
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I'm doing 9 mujin runs a day, maybe 1 leg drop per week 🙂

mighty radish
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then with time allowed run the extra purples to see if rng will be kind

mighty radish
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i know people can spend 100's of runs a day with a clan or static group, which i dont have anymore, so relying on "friendly" groups if there are any

amber briar
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wts one of them EU and WTB pp sunflower EU pm

spiral dagger
lament skiff
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stack yellow instead!

spiral dagger
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true ^

wet jacinth
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How to make cat summoner work: Stack yellow strike, Strike hard, Strike Fast

spiral dagger
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or just dont play summoner

wet jacinth
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But cute kitty?

spiral dagger
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u can watch stream and feel like a summoner, its enough just trust

amber briar
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the is first time i stack pp sunflowerbns_shy

spiral dagger
rose juniper
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To be honest. I'm kinda give up at this point to get a purple sunflower. Just saving dg for wl, unless miracle happen.

spiral dagger
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with curret prices wl will be more expensive than summoner XD

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ppl will buy all blue books (for 200 or less dg) then do gambling for purple books - to 'be rich' or top wl

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and what can i see from KR, u need minimum 4 purple main skills to do something on WL

rose juniper
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bns_scream bns_scream We're doom

lament skiff
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That's the only way to "catch up" to older classes

spiral dagger
sinful cove
amber briar
spiral dagger
amber briar
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up to ur offer i just wanna get 1 as 30k before next version

rose juniper
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Is cheer up buff come at the same patch with honey buff?

sinful cove
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what cheer up buff?

rose juniper
sinful cove
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Ach, wouldnt that just be useful for a rumblebess build?

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Live had it for i think it was 3rd spec because it was the cat that was doing quite some damage

sharp wedge
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Any EU summoner wanna support my reroll plans? AndyScum on EU, all for sale potentially

maiden flint
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what is this kr purple patch supposed to do? google translated

rose juniper
maiden flint
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so a bunch of cat buffs, + honey from gloom/drain/hive and sunflower buff?

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what does honey even do for sunflower, i see additional dmg on hornet

minor sun
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extends photosynthesis i believe

maiden flint
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oh nvm im dumb lol, read it as extend honey buff

sharp wedge
sharp wedge
rose juniper
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I'm really do want to buy your purple sunflower, if you have it. But the problem is I'm dirt poor...bns_phew

lament skiff
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Just flip-flopping between the two builds, I think

maiden flint
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i upgraded to blue hornet but down bad on focus rn, missing mystic badge and hive swarm, but that's about it? or im missing something else

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oh i guess the photosynthesis from blue venomous should help

true stirrup
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Are they buffing purple defense down hammer

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it has some extra text in the KR version

lament skiff
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Summoner skills will do bonus damage based on accuracy and HP

spiral dagger
# true stirrup
- (added) Deals additional damage equal to 0.15x AP when attacking a Targeted opponent

Superior Strike: Defense Reduction
- (added) Deals additional damage equal to 0.17x AP when attacking a Targeted opponent

Heroic Strike: Defense Reduction
- Inflicts 2.00x > 3.85x AP damage
- (removed) Inflicts 1.85x AP additional damage Enemy with 5 Poison Stack
- (added) Deals additional damage equal to 0.38x AP when attacking a Targeted opponent

Legendary Strike: Defense Reduction
- Inflicts 2.50x > 4.50x AP damage
- (removed) Inflicts 2.00x AP additional damage Enemy with 5 Poison Stack
- (added) Deals additional damage equal to 0.25x AP when attacking a Targeted opponent (might be an error?)
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and this what Emraell said ^

true stirrup
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wait thats op

spiral dagger
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- 2% of Accuracy dealt as Additional Damage per hit on the targeted enemy
- 0.14% of HP dealt as Additional Damage per hit on the targeted enemy

Legendary Strike: Defense Reduction
- 5% of Accuracy dealt as Additional Damage per on the targeted enemy
- 0.32% of HP dealt as Additional Damage per hit on the targeted enemy```
maiden flint
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"target" buff is only from rumblebees i think

spiral dagger
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yes

true stirrup
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so its not additional damage on every hit during the debuff duration?

maiden flint
spiral dagger
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only if you play '3rd spec' - rumblebees

severe cargo
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Still a meme spec

spiral dagger
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yes

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but for alt, just 4fun
its nice

barren drum
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@steel python moving to steam with us? bns_blush 🐈 dodo

steel python
spiral dagger
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Wtb purple hornet eu + mystic badge

severe cargo
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Wait arent u sunflower

steel python
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He swapping

severe cargo
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Why would you go hornet after tasting purple sunflower

amber briar
spiral dagger
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0

rose juniper
spiral dagger
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on eu? yesterday was 3 for 19-20k

amber briar
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WTB sunflower EU

uncut fable
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i'd take a purple hornet for 15k on EU

solid kestrel
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^ same, on NA

spiral dagger
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I can buy it also on EU

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Idk why ppl put items on market for lower price but when time ends they put it again for higher price XD

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What is wrong with them

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Yesterday was 3 hornets for 19-20k
Today is 1 for 22k

lament skiff
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They're investing in gold sink

sinful cove
# spiral dagger What is wrong with them

There are 3 there, 1 of which is yours for say 19k each. Then all 3 expire for example. But you dont know if they expired or were bought so you list yours for higher since its then the only in the market until others re-list and then you see and you cancel and relist yours again cheaper

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flawed thinking is all it is

spiral dagger
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I see

knotty rampart
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EU WTS purple hornet, and a full Acc CritD roll +3 Viruous Sould Bage

lament skiff
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Thinking I should swap this out for more sunflower

solid kestrel
elfin briar
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gold is -40% instead of 30 pepoMegaThonkeryDo

lament skiff
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Also eats one less focus

true stirrup
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How do I make my summoner not do zero damage?

elder veldt
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which build are you playing?

steel python
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You accept you do no dmg

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and swap to your fm

barren drum
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DODO!

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@steel python Buff us

reef steppe
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wts purple strike : damage reduction server NA

amber briar
true stirrup
amber briar
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why u stack strike

true stirrup
true stirrup
fiery cape
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btw... how much this can sell?

lament skiff
amber briar
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maybe i cant afford it.but it is fun to know the price

lament skiff
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Well the legendary destro book expired iirc

uncut fable
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was the DES book even the usable kind? anyway, with the state of a "less desirable but usable" purple book still in the range of 4-6k the leggy def down should be at least 5x-10x that price, but who's willing to pay for that for the additional 10% defense reduction 😅

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summoners in a static party should get the price crowdfunded by their partymembers hahaha

coarse sphinx
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Its usable but not recommended. So getting it as a legendary is a big decision you might regret in the future. You can't anicancel properly in your burst with this skill

lament skiff
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I don't know destro builds. Cleave, focus recovery iirc

coarse sphinx
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yeah cleave is your rmb and highest or 2nd highest dmg skill and since you have a higher gcd on this skill with focus recovery, anicancelling won't be as smooth anymore compared to the speed version of cleave which most destros use

lament skiff
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@brittle gust Too many.

brittle gust
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tried twice

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hit me up if u ever quit sunflower

lament skiff
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lol that would be the reasonable thing to do

brittle gust
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wait quitting sunflower or dming me?

karmic flint
karmic flint
lament skiff
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lmao stopping after 2 failed transmutes

brittle gust
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man im lvl 50 gotta chill a little bit

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so much to upgrade

celest shell
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hi guys , how much this is now if i sell it ?

rose juniper
river light
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Wtb Purple Sunflower NA pm

brittle gust
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most summoners in eu got their books so its kinda not worth it to pay 45k+ for 6gm

amber briar
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wtb purple sunflower EU

spiral dagger
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Wtb purple hornet and petal toss EU

amber briar
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@spiral daggeri have one petal toss on market

spiral dagger
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For 5k wow

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Week ago no1 wants buy this for 2.5-3 😂😂

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So I will not pay more than 3 anyway

rose juniper
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I'm still waiting for Purple Sun to drop below 25000, because that's all I have

minor sun
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it will once a purp selector comes by

amber briar
outer hamlet
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is there any purple sunflower user here ? i dont remember this effect from blue but i have some kind of screen shaking and it's destroying my eyes is there a seting to stop it ?

rose juniper
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Its should have an option to disable screen shaking in the setting.

outer hamlet
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both screen shake are un-ticked

spiral dagger
rose juniper
severe cargo
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WTB Purple Sunflower NA

floral kettle
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Any sum wants to buy this? EU

amber briar
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wtb purple sunflower EU

tawdry orbit
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WTS Hornet Nest EU

prime salmon
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WTB purple sunflower NA too :3

river light
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Same WTB purple sunflower NA

fiery cape
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60k on f5

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gogogo

severe cargo
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eXCEPT 60k is a scam

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You have to be desperate to buy that

chrome epoch
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WTB good Legy Gloves EU

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60k or you do no dmg xD

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summ hardcore purple locked

rose juniper
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What is the price for this in EU? Anyone?

chrome epoch
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cant check but would guess around 3-5k

amber briar
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was 2k,but i think it worth 3k~4k

rose juniper
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Thank! Seriously, market should also show its previous price when there's no item on listing.

chrome epoch
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ye you should at least be able to see for how much stuff sold recently...

amber briar
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the price of sunflower sold recently is 30k

rose juniper
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On EU there're 2 sun at 40k...for 3 days now. I hope it down to 25k so I can take it.

amber briar
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me,too but i can afford 30k i can take both

chrome epoch
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blue is different

amber briar
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but in korea sever sf still at 10k level

chrome epoch
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if you wait, what will people do if no one buys for 40k or 30k or 20k

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they will have to lower and lower

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so many ppl left the game already, dont wanna spend more in the game

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i hope next battle pass we get that purple selector chest

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30k is still like 300€ for a ingame skill book imagine that

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i just cant xD

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god bless i opened mine myself

amber briar
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if we get purple selector chest , it maybe reach at 25k level

reef steppe
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wts lunge purple

rose juniper
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FM chat is fill to the brim about mocking people listing skill with unreasonable price. its quite entertaining lol

amber briar
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i hope i can get 30k sf soon then its ur turn

chrome epoch
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just chill like me

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cant help that 😦

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go stream maybe you get fame

reef steppe
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what the price for purple lunge ?

chrome epoch
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how comes xD

reef steppe
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ok ty mate

rose juniper
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Also, just got this. I think they buff it on the next patch right? they add a buff that also apply Summoner stat on to cat for 30 sec.

reef steppe
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wts lunge purple 4k

chrome epoch
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but highly doubt that your cat is attacking a lot since you want to war cry for focus a lot

reef steppe
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when will bp season 2 end?

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and new content update?

chrome epoch
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open the bp

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look top left

rose juniper
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27 this month

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I remember it was 20 right? they extent it.

steel python
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Honestly don't think it'll increase

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Like bbr and bsh2 have same drop rate

rose juniper
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Is there anyone know when WL release on KR, are they start offer purple selector in BP yet? or after it?

amber briar
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what is WL

chrome epoch
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i think there was purple skill selector chest in third battle pass for korea

amber briar
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some1 told me maybe next patch or after that

rose juniper
chrome epoch
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warlock that cant buff party cause no party buffs exist? 😄

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WTB good Legy Gloves EU

rose juniper
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Yea, that one thing I wondering. Every class have some form of skill that give support to the party, but Warlock's soulburn now only self buff, so they didn't have any?

wet jacinth
chrome epoch
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sad thing is

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events and stuff came too slow

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they should listen more to the community and the complains

wet jacinth
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The events came to slow and the current event is to slow.
KR has 3-4 week events sure, but every week they get an extra mini event with includes insignias, cards and outfits...

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They haven't learned from the Korean server running empty, They just copy pastad it all over and the same is happening.

chrome epoch
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its so sad i do like the game

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i just hope it doesnt die too fast

wet jacinth
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The last week has been brutal on the amount of whales that quit and sold their gear

chrome epoch
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ye

wet jacinth
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We have one more very slow week untill next patch and I do expect more ppl to quit

chrome epoch
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where are all the summs leaving

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i wanna buy the whale gear

wet jacinth
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WTB Purple Venom LB + Purple Hornet (EU) Pm me.

rose juniper
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Need some opinion, which glasses you think is better?
1 the round one
or 2 the pointy one

true stirrup
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The pointy ones are ridiculous

rose juniper
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Yea, I like that it smaller but not the fan of spiky thing. 😂

gilded sierra
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WTS purple Sunflower NA

amber briar
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WTB pp sf EU

severe cargo
gilded sierra
severe cargo
elder veldt
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WTS NA

river light
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WTB Purple Sunflower & Purple Daybreak - NA PM!

celest shell
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wts NA

prime salmon
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WTB purple sunflower NA too :3

minor sun
tawdry orbit
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WTS Hornet Nest EU

odd yacht
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WTB purple prickly and doom'n'gloom for 5k each EU

finite rampart
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WTB Purple Hornet Nest EU

chrome epoch
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guys iam pirate now, hand out all purple sunflowers to me.

outer hamlet
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hey you have purple sunflower right now ?
do you have the screen blur/shake every time too ?

minor sun
lament skiff
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Oh it does shake

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On crit, it does

lament skiff
coarse reef
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WTS purple hornet EU for 18k

outer hamlet
lament skiff
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Turn them on, save, turn them off?

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Worst case, reset your settings

outer hamlet
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tried, didn't change anything

outer hamlet
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i think it's suposed to be the hit lag but it just looks like my fov is beeing chagned every .5 sec

lament skiff
outer hamlet
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looks so good on a good pc lol

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what do you use to do a screen recording ?

lament skiff
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OBS

chrome epoch
outer hamlet
lament skiff
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Feels like a blur

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The screenshake on hit is different... Maybe check your bloom/blur in advanced gfx settings

outer hamlet
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i have this

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just tested all 6 boxes none change anything

lament skiff
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My settings in case it helps

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I'll copy yours after this dungeon and see what it looks like

odd yacht
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Yeah that's just a "feature" of a purple sunflower

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You can't disable it without tinkering with client files

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if you want it gone either upgrade to legendary or downgrade to blue sunflower, they don't have it

outer hamlet
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aint no way

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so that's why people are switching to hornest ?

odd yacht
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I dunno about that one but some just don't like sunflower gameplay and lack of party utility

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Hornest can easily upkeep 100% uptime on def down debuff while on sunflower it's challenging without sacrificing a chunk of your own dps

outer hamlet
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so my eyes are going to explode untill i get a gold selector ?

odd yacht
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Correct

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Or until people start modding neo

outer hamlet
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yeh i see that i only apply def down after control for now and the poison dont even get reset

odd yacht
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I have purple predator which is a really easy way to apply def down and it doesn't wipe poison stacks

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but it's on 36 sec cd and gonna replace it with another sunflower sooner or later

outer hamlet
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i have it to (bound) but it sounded super anoying to use since it dont apply poison itself and you have to be on the boss

lament skiff
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I didn't notice the blur on purple but now that you've pointed it out

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I can't not notice it

outer hamlet
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btw since there is a gold sunflower owner here i was wondering if you had any focus issues ? can you run virtuous + purple daybreak + purple pirkly and be fine using poison on 3, F,tab and lmb ?

lament skiff
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If I'm not paying attention its easy to run out

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Can't drop hive swarm, dng bc honey

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But I don't have room for lunge. I do run venomous lmb tho

odd yacht
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we won't have honey for at least another 2 weeks, but even now running purple toss is not a significant damage boost once you have a lot of gm stacks on sunflower

outer hamlet
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you dont run briar either ?

lament skiff
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Nope no room

outer hamlet
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but def down tab stays ? i feel like doom n root + briar is better (focus recovery spread on time and poison stack without cat pin)

lament skiff
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I used to run predator but its clunky to use

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If I can sell my hammer, I'd put on another SF tbh

outer hamlet
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40% def- vs 9% on SF
feels wrong to only have shroud as utility

lament skiff
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I'm just too unreliable with the hammer, it'll be better off in a hornet player's hands

true stirrup
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You should, it still is a net damage up for your team

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Even if you have high pierce the def hammer adds around 8% dps

steel python
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Just make friends with hornets players

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They boost personal dmg too

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And they take care of def debuff

lament skiff
true stirrup
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Should in that it maximizes total party damage output because the loss of personal damage is more than offset by the net increase in damage from the debuff

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Assuming that all the party members are geared

floral kettle
#

Question is if you compare that with using it once every min, or actually with a honet player with good uptime

true stirrup
#

i have 3.5k piercing and i still gain around 8% from the cat hammer

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my ice rains gain around 1500-2000 damage when defense down is up

floral kettle
#

I mean you should play what you want to play, nothing wrong with that.
But claiming the hammer does bearly anything is pretty bull, after a while every fight becomes that "same" fight. When everyone got all patterns figured out etc.

prime salmon
#

purple sunflower at 55k :3

brittle gust
rose juniper
#

On EU its down to 35K, its just gone like 20 mins ago. Still high, but a lot more reasonable.

prime salmon
prime salmon
brittle gust
#

nah book stacking

prime salmon
#

so everybody just has godly rng now huh ;w;

lament skiff
#

I could post some of my losses if that would make you feel better?

spiral dagger
#

U had 3 legendary books

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Pls don’t talk about rng

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How many tries?

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5?

lament skiff
#

30

spiral dagger
#

When u got first 2

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U said 5

lament skiff
#

Try 2 and 3

spiral dagger
#

Or I miss something

lament skiff
#

2: Strike: Speed Increase, 3: Sunflower, 9: Strike: Speed Increase, 16: Strike Def Down, 28: Strike: Def Down

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Overall, 16.7% chance of success

severe cargo
#

which is lucksacking considering the odds are 5%

lament skiff
#

lol stack strike?

brittle gust
#

it coulda been 10% and maybe worth it

lament skiff
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One for me, one for the cat

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UNLIMITED UPTIME

lament skiff
#

Well damn

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What am I supposed to do with this

brittle gust
#

hmm keep it for gamble in the future or sell it

lament skiff
#

I could swap to hornets

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I already have strike

brittle gust
#

Would u sell sunflower then ?

lament skiff
#

I guess I can try out both

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Since I'll have the same gear

#

it's 40g to rip a skill out though

steel python
#

buy 2 sets of accs with similar stats

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and put them on

brittle gust
#

Hornet looks better with legendaries tbh instant cast but the cd is still there

#

In the long run that’s worth it

lament skiff
#

Oh I dont have the badge

severe cargo
lament skiff
#

Hornet has focus issues?

severe cargo
#

No sunflower has at purple and lower

lament skiff
#

Aaah

severe cargo
#

Well if you mismanage it

#

But at legendary, having one focus recovered on crit is lowkey op

brittle gust
#

yeh hornet has no issues just no aoe

lament skiff
#

That's true

#

Nothing clears trash faster than a beam of light

steel python
#

hornet has issues if you hammer off cd, especially if you lock your f and briar

brittle gust
#

Man I miss execute on des was so good to clear bsh1 first boss

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Briar?

steel python
#

briar patch yeah

lament skiff
#

Yellow hammer is only 2 focus

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Maybe that makes a difference

steel python
#

hornets doesnt run a book for it since you may as well get another book

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yeah lego hammer would make it easy

lament skiff
#

Ah 32 failed, but got a sunflower so

brittle gust
#

hm u buying purple books for?

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1,5?

lament skiff
#

Yeah

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Hmm can't test, no valor stones

steel python
lament skiff
#

Yeah, I'm usually at the back for bloodmane

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But at least I never have to tank 😄

severe cargo
#

Man how rich are you for being able to do 32 legendary book gambles

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Im struggling finding 1 purple sunflower at affordable price Tiresome

lament skiff
#

Stock options as bonus

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Although the market tanking kind of ruined it

steel python
#

My rsus have tanked in value

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Gotta mention the stocks gotta be good

#

But yeah range baiting + having to put your cat q on melees + def debuff costing 3 focus makes it a bit annoying

lament skiff
#

The cat giveth, the summoner taketh away

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I've only just started using Q to make the cat resist hae's ccs

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Using it to bait ranged mech beyond me

severe cargo
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If there was a way to just tell the cat, Stay at this location, you could make the shadow yoyo in between u and cat which would be nice lol

lament skiff
#

Like placing a summon in FF14

severe cargo
#

Yeah like placing Eos or whatever is the name of Scholar's healing summon

maiden flint
#

do u still run venomous with sunflower if u dont intend to keep up hammer? or go full dps with photo rose

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i guess at high crit its just the same + free poison

lament skiff
#

Probably add back a utility

severe cargo
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Doesnt weave like Hornet

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I use Doom n Root, Lunge, and Prickly stance for poison stacks

lament skiff
#

Either Briar or Raging Lash

severe cargo
#

Theres other ways to do it

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But thats the one I prefer

steel python
#

I don't think the cat is on the viable target list for shadow (i'll test it some time)

lament skiff
#

I swear Hae has aircombo'd my cat at some point

lament skiff
#

Strange

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On the focus recovery dummy, can I just hold down RMB?

rose juniper
#

What is the situation with Cat DPS build on KR? is it good after the Cheer Up/Rumble Bee buff?

lament skiff
#

Idk how admissible this comparison is but here you go
644 AP, CR 3298, CD 3017
SF and HN on a bracelet with 43 AP, one with 43 EV, the other with 39 BL, all other equipment unchanged.
SF tested via RMB held down
HN tested via RMB -> LMB spam

932837    0    15480.02    100.0%    176    0.5568181818181818    1    01:00    14855    Hornet Nest
1454068    0    24043.09    100.0%    174    0.5919540229885057    1    01:00    13850    Super Sunflower
chrome epoch
#

You can use hammer easy with some more purple skills especially daybreak

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wet jacinth
warped marlin
fiery cape
#

sunflower need stacking right? u need to remove those skill

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or no dmg

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A_A

wet jacinth
#

Play hornet or play FM KEKWSMILE

amber briar
#

is this ur 4th legendary book?

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u got all summoner legendary book u can play another summ character

chrome epoch
#

So much p2w in dead game bns_nervous

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Just be rng blessed kekw

amber briar
#

i wanna get legendary strike but in the current patch.its hard to find a balanced price between its cost and value

lament skiff
#

Super expensive to make tbh

#

The layers of rng b crazy

chrome epoch
#

i have 0 interest in trying to get legendary

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its so expensive and too much rng

#

and more than 50% of people already left the game

chrome epoch
#

and how much is the legendary def down?

steel python
lament skiff
#

I was not diligent and did not record the salvaging part

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I got 6/33

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At cost, each book should be between 85k (every purple salvaged into 5) and 142k (every purple salvaged into 3)

chrome epoch
#

holy moly

spiral dagger
#

noush quit too?

chrome epoch
#

at least his char looked like that ye

lament skiff
#

Oh I didn't factor in the cost of the transmute, but you get the idea

chrome epoch
#

how can u efford all that 😮
did you win some lottery?

lament skiff
#

Yearly bonus

chrome epoch
#

i wanna work there too

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xD

steel python
#

Same

lament skiff
#

Just work in software lol

lament skiff
#

I did equip a necklace but I can take it off and just go no accs except the ev/bl ones

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It would just be a comparison of one skill vs the other

chrome epoch
#

so you got legendary hornet nest and sunflower now?

spiral dagger
#

and def redu

#

all 3boxes what he needs to finish this game

lament skiff
#

I... I don't think I want rumble, vine whip or speed strike

chrome epoch
#

like having 18% not just 5% xD

wet jacinth
#

And then getting 3actualyl good leggys aswell

lament skiff
#

Getting a "good" one is 50/50

wet jacinth
#

qCC spend 1.8k eu for a 30k dg leggy book alledgedly

lament skiff
#

3 usable, sf, hn, the cooler strike vs vine something, strike, and rumble

chrome epoch
#

ye god bless they didnt add more sheitty possible legy ones

lament skiff
#

Ah the new books are heroic

chrome epoch
#

you can reroll legy skills soon

lament skiff
#

Oh, go on

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Technically if you had at least 7 of them you could

chrome epoch
#

check this

lament skiff
#

LMAO

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Unless they up the salvage

#

It's not a guarantee since they go from 3-5

chrome epoch
#

xD

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still 500 Gold...

lament skiff
#

A fraction of the cost to forge them this way

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Around 10k gems

chrome epoch
#

if u salvage 4 legy skills and get 20 fragments u can go +1 legy skill

lament skiff
#

lol I have 8 fragments sitting in wh

#

The speed strike was sacrificed to the gods

chrome epoch
#

dayum

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so you can gamba 20k gems for gold costs

lament skiff
#

Basically

chrome epoch
#

would just stack another legendary sunflower or hornets or go sell?

lament skiff
#

Hard to say what market will be like by then

#

Will there be players/buyers

#

How many legendaries are dropping/on F5

#

But I'm more likely to keep any SF

#

I dropped a lot of utility to stack the purple books

chrome epoch
#

i dont see me leaving the game unless there is no one i can run dungeons with anymore

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and my goal is to have at least 1 legy sf

lament skiff
#

Just stack all sf and solo

chrome epoch
#

dropping a legy skill in new dungeons was like 0.09% or so..xd

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amber briar
#

when everyone is gone there is no summ to fuse book

lament skiff
#

That's true

#

Where am I gonna get purple fodder

chrome epoch
#

do you still buy?

lament skiff
#

Nope, highest I'll go is 1500

amber briar
#

WTS eu

lament skiff
#

gems saved = more books made

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sharp wedge
sharp wedge
#

Eventually turning it into a solo self found

karmic flint
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severe cargo
chrome epoch
chrome epoch
karmic flint
chrome epoch
#

Nana no p2w

sinful cove
#

at least in NA the legendary skill will live up to its name, so legendary you will never get it xD

jovial ember
#

WTS staff + poha soul core 18k paired

brittle gust
lament skiff
#

lol at least your core has usable stats

brittle gust
#

Damn reroll that

#

Go for hp,acc, cdmg, crit

sinful cove
#

Go anything that isnt what you have in the pircture xD

lament skiff
#

Maybe when I get another purple

brittle gust
#

Get?

#

They are like a 0,05% drop rate

lament skiff
#

Oh the transmute thing is lying then

#

I just burn blue cores

brittle gust
#

Oh

#

Thought y meant dropping on from dungeon

lament skiff
#

I have never seen a purple core drop

#

I have seen 2 purple books drop though

brittle gust
#

Seen 4 purples

#

Books

#

But never heard of anyone dropping the purple soul core

spiral dagger
#

i did

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from mujin

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and poharan

sinful cove
spiral dagger
#

i would sell this gubong and still use mujin if u have

sinful cove
#

or both

spiral dagger
#

mujin hits alot + 2kd is nice

lament skiff
#

#2 summoner on Cinderlands has more AP than me so I'm trying to stay on competitive

spiral dagger
#

so do better insignias?

sinful cove
#

i find the mujin core nice, plus once we get the patch that all cores give the ap bonus then no real reason to go hard for one type

spiral dagger
#

yeah

sinful cove
#

plus....gubong just takes too long to blow up like a baloon imo xD

sinful cove
#

if you play bns to be competitive....i strongly suggest quitting lol

jovial ember
#

WTS staff + poha soul core 18k paired

jovial ember
brittle gust
#

I would not buy that for 5k

#

Weapon is meh low cdmg and we getting hex in 2 weeks

#

And soul is worse than hae

spiral dagger
#

yes, 1% for legendary weapon seems awesome

sinful cove
severe cargo
#

Bruh who keeps buying Purple Sunflowers on NA at ridiculous prices

#

Never gonna be able to buy them at a reasonable price..

sinful cove
#

they were at like 1-1.5k for a week

#

plus you should at least have 2-3 by tomorrow

#

2 from event + 1 if you got lucky since release

severe cargo
#

I meant Purple Ones

gusty kiln
#

WTB Gold Flower NA name your price

sinful cove
gusty kiln
#

Deal dm me

sinful cove
#

lol jk

gusty kiln
#

Darn

sinful cove
#

if i had it i would not sell it like ever

prime salmon
#

Ray wtb gold sunflower for 650k lol

sinful cove
#

while the thought of getting 300k+ gems is enticing, you would have to go through hell to get it again, not worth it

gusty kiln
#

Nobody would sell unless they gambad for it on an alt looking for profit

#

And even then they probably have a clannie to sell to ☠️

sinful cove
#

I'll trade Rayford here for one

gusty kiln
#

WTB all purple books NA 1500 each

prime salmon
#

That's EU prices 😭 you gotta add the NA tax. Cheapest purp books prob 2000 each

gusty kiln
#

I been finding 1-3 a day for 1500. There’s always someone less than 2k away from their big purchase

shadow plank
#

Selling EU

lament skiff
#

Accepting bribes for Hornet

spiral dagger
#

50k pleadcry

#

on credit I can buy it

warped marlin
#

51k

tawdry orbit
#

WTS 2500 HN :3

#

lf for gacha boy who buy emraell HN xD

tawdry orbit
#

sold! thx

sinful cove
lament skiff
#

I think you can sell a kidney

#

Or a lobe of liver

spiral dagger
#

sell me this on credit, 2 months and it is done

lament skiff
#

I saw it on house

sinful cove
#

they come as a set so body or nothing .-.

#

part of the warranty

#

i am still upset we dont have a 20 fragment purple re-roll and get screwed by 50 legendary chance option

lament skiff
#

Yes, but it feels very on brand for the company

sinful cove
#

its a very luxurious brand o.o

#

one of a kind

tidal plank
#

WTB purple sunflower NA virdian Coast

solid kestrel
#

bring that leg hornet nest to NA and we can talk about price :)

true stirrup
#

and worse off cost wise than transmuting from blue

#

Even when we had that, it was more efficient to sell the fodder purples at the current fodder rate and re-attempt purples from blue on average.

spiral dagger
#

true that

#

but 50 purple frags is crazy with 5% chance

lament skiff
#

guilmon_cry dont recommend it

spiral dagger
#

noush quit cuz he couldn't get any i guess

#

but it was only rumours

#

i dunno why

#

all what i know he did some tries and getting mad on that

#

my first place as sunflower

true stirrup
rose juniper
#

Damn, blue Sunflower is at the all time low at 700 in EU.

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chrome epoch
chrome epoch
ashen monolith
#

WTS NA

rose juniper
#

After got jumped by a bd yesterday in faction and lost, with him at 10%Hp. Now, I'm going to bring a belt with all CC skill I can cram into it at all time.

karmic flint
lament flame
#

can i get hornet nest build dps 10k++ my ap 800+ but my dps still 5k

fiery cape
still herald
#

I’m 830, 5kcc, 830 acc, 200ms, 6 stack gm of sun, can i get dps up to 10k bns_scream

bleak vale
#

steam ver im a summoner

#

see you all then

maiden flint
#

DPS in what

#

I'm doing like 6k in bug to CS at 720 AP 1600/1000 with blue hornet

sinful cove
#

Easiest way to increase damage is book stacking > Crit / CDMG >=AP

#

Highest increase will be going from blue to purple book

digital bramble
#

WTB Purple petal storm toss EU

sinful cove
#

Can I ask why people use the purple toss? Maybe there is something i am missing but seems like it has no value compared to Hive Swarm o.o

steel python
#

Damage YEP

sinful cove
#

is it really all that much to sacrifice focus regen over? xD

steel python
#

its like 10% more damage i think, worth it if you're fighting for wb

sinful cove
#

is it also worth in normal gameplay?

shadow plank
#

imo now i dont have focus problem and use Toss

#

ofc for party focus is not good but i use cat Q instead for my party

#

i got good damage increase, dummy from 25k to 29k and WB too ofc

outer hamlet
#

WTS how much in EU ?

shadow plank
#

2k around, i found mine yesterday 1k5

outer hamlet
#

ty

wet jacinth
#

WTB Venom LB EU, Pm me please.

glacial viper
#

WTS EU

empty plinth
#

good luck with Dark guys

#

its a warning

chrome epoch
empty plinth
#

himself its a meme

brittle gust
#

lmfao i ran home and got top 4

#

goal is to beat muru next month

chrome epoch
#

gz!

lament skiff
#

Any moonwater peeps know how much the axe went for

coarse sphinx
#

86k

lament skiff
#

Huh

#

Maybe there are no destro whales

brittle gust
#

kfm bought it

lament skiff
#

Yes, I saw the boast

#

Oh I thought that was a FM lol

coarse sphinx
#

destro dead class

chrome epoch
#

so much whaling in dead game

minor sun
#

86k for a wep? It's like 120k+ in na

chrome epoch
#

860€ for pixel weapon*

#

i would pay 10-20k gems at max xD

#

maybe when game is more dead and people stop spending i can buy

chrome epoch
#

books are in btw

#

1500 each 🙂

#

gl on next craft

#

may gamba be with u

sturdy orbit
#

What can purple book tumble roll sell for

lament skiff
#

Fragment fodder, imo

bleak vale
wet jacinth
#

But ye ppl swipe 2000 euro every month in Gachas when new waifu releases, it's dumb af

#

Almost makes me feel bad for laughing at ffxiv's pricing

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rose juniper
#

I'm finally get my hand on Purple Sunflower with 35k. My DPS jump from 11k to 18k in cs, its so beautiful 😭

Also, now I'm broke af. 🤣

bleak vale
#

i want to see what an 18k summoner looks like b4 i go play summoner myself

wet jacinth
rose juniper
#

I not at my home right now, but My stat is 806AP, 3010 CriR / 2100 CriD, 860 Accuracy. and sunflower is 16 GM rank, hope that help

chrome epoch
#

u missing out on all the good utility?

wet jacinth
chrome epoch
#

go full selfish mode

wet jacinth
#

Yep, thats what sunflowers do

chrome epoch
#

no xD

wet jacinth
#

You can run this and do dmg, U can take Doom n Gloom and drop Strike aswell

#

Or you just run hornet and you do mechanics, def reduc and still do dmg

chrome epoch
#

purple gimme light kek

wet jacinth
#

Ye or blue w/e it's 3 focus xd

chrome epoch
#

u know it wont trigger the incoming new buff

wet jacinth
#

Budgetty with bit more focus recov

chrome epoch
#

what i mean is, you should take Drain to get the new buff for 6secs when its here

#

now its still cheap.

wet jacinth
#

Ye well but for now just get gimme light lol

#

Ppl in all classes are theorycrafting for future patches but we don't even know if we're ever going to get those

#

NCA is clueless afterall

rose juniper
chrome epoch
#

dayum after next blue select chest i will try and go full selfish mode too

wet jacinth
#

Do be aware you will take the slot of a Char FM that does the same +6k dps tho Giggle

rose juniper
#

I'm have def down before but i'm not smart enough to use it and not mess up my rotation so I just throw it out of the window.

chrome epoch
#

legit most summs in a nutshell

wet jacinth
#

Why do u use Prickly if you don't use the poison stakcs?

rose juniper
chrome epoch
#

also dont need venomous left click

wet jacinth
#

Oh right true I forgot about that

chrome epoch
#

if no def down

wet jacinth
#

(Hornet ftw)

rose juniper
#

I'm going full selfish mode here and no one can stop me.

wet jacinth
rose juniper
#

Let me get this dopamine for once!! after almost 2 months of excruciating pain!

wet jacinth
#

hey all i'm saying is

#

Take smothering paw

#

Cat pin OP

#

Keep the rest selffish as Sunflower user, who cares

rose juniper
#

oh right that good idea, problem is i;m sitting at 195dg

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rose juniper
chrome epoch
#

oh so i relly should use more counters intentionnally to get prickly cd back

wet jacinth
bleak vale
wet jacinth
#

16gm is the softcap before gm moves from 1.9% per pnt to 1.5% per pnt anyway Giggle

chrome epoch
#

to flex on ya, iam probably around 28k there

wet jacinth
rose juniper
wet jacinth
#

Fair nuff, Seems like a decent sunflower build

#

AFK do no mechs, do rotation and occasionally grip

chrome epoch
#

u shouldnt check me ingame xD

#

iam using purp anklebiter for easy KDs

#

most ppl slack on KDs

bleak vale
#

who got a 20k dps summoner build

chrome epoch
#

^

rose juniper
#

I just want to blast things in the face with beam of superheat ray. And see numbers fly.

steel python
#

Are you on NA

wet jacinth
bleak vale
#

im not selfish

#

ill take some utility

wet jacinth
#

But yes, it isn't fun and it's giga boring (subjective opinion)

warped marlin
#

objective opinion actually

chrome epoch
#

which server are u guys even on?

wet jacinth
#

Winderlands

bleak vale
#

i would take things like smothering and strike -def

rose juniper
chrome epoch
wet jacinth
#

Like all u do is just stand slightly outside of melee range and AFK spam RB with occasional clicks

#

Just go play char fm in that case LUL

chrome epoch
#

dude Besties is so insane

steel python
chrome epoch
#

ppl should not not use it

wet jacinth
#

Don't get hit KEKWSMILE

patent briar
#

vs holding down as macro on hornets and pressing C every 10 seconds lol

steel python
#

Icecream you gotta run with cafe some time

#

We collecting summoners

#

Had like 4-5 summs in bsh a few days ago

bleak vale
#

i want 6 sum bsh2 video. where it at

wet jacinth
#

We doom n rooting for the stacks xd

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steel python
#

I think I can arrange 6 summ but it's gonna be half of the top 10

steel python
#

Tbh I don't think I've seen 6 summoners in bsh that aren't a friend or a clannie

rose juniper
steel python
#

You E to get into ice

rose juniper
steel python
#

Or rmb a mob

wet jacinth
#

It's that shrimple KEKWSMILE

#

legit their builds are, lb rb 2 take 1 and just stack 2 as high as you can (and meteor, balefire as fire ig)

steel python
#

Yeah FM pretty easy in comparison to others

wet jacinth
#

Yet all FMs I meet do like negative dps

#

Even the guy who bought all Noush's ice rains

rose juniper
#

When I playing WL years ago I'm also just spam RMB / 4 and anythning that not on cd

wet jacinth
#

60gm ice rain did 14k mujin dmg

steel python
rose juniper
steel python
#

I do 14k mujin dmg with utility skills and lv51

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wet jacinth
#

Sadly it is.

#

He did 15k twin dmg

#

(and we even stacked them)

steel python
#

Yeah I've seen some solid FM setups do 10k

wet jacinth
#

Fms legit most braindead class and players in the game

#

Idk

#

(also one of the biggest whales)

steel python
#

Nah it's still summs

rose juniper
#

Maybe not enough Accuracy?

steel python
#

Every blue train I see some shitter summ running with garbage gear and no utility

wet jacinth
#

As lvl 55 u pmuch have enough accuracy for anything

wet jacinth
#

i take fresh 45s xd

steel python
#

Like I get our class doesn't deal damage but at least try

#

It's insane though, I've seen clawnado, fire grenade launcher, and sunflower on one guy

#

I did more damage than them holding lmb

wet jacinth
#

Fire grenade is such a fun ability

#

Delete book stacking, make fire grenade viable yay

rose juniper
#

Thinking about it...I'm once in poh and try to find the last place in dps meter to see his build but i can't find his name on the party list. I'm quite confuse. Its turn out the 6th place in the dps meter is the Cat of the 4th guy. lol

Someone just got out damage by the cat.

chrome epoch
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dev decided to not give summ dmg xD

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they said its support with heal and def down

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🙂

wet jacinth
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Tbf

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If u calculate for example a 10k hornet player on Mujin

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That uses perma def down

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It'll actually do 10k+2-2.5k per player

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Wich is quite insane

glacial viper
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Stupid dps meter

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cant even count

wet jacinth
glacial viper
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cant say Shi T

wet jacinth
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Imagine filtering out feces

steel python
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Once azuras meter ranking becomes more well known, I'm gonna sell my def down services to the whales

rose juniper
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This is not the fist time I saw that image and wouldn't be the last I guess.

steel python
wet jacinth
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Logging is the dumbest thing in the game

steel python
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Another funny thing

rose juniper
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Gathering Hardmode was the true endgame.

steel python
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When WB comes up, everyone goes to the last ch and I usually spot half the top 10 there

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Literally nobody there defense debuffs

glacial viper
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who cares what channel your in

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its not damage per channel

steel python
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It's good cuz less lag

glacial viper
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ah ok

steel python
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And some giga whales also do it

wet jacinth
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I go to ch 1 or 2 so I don't have to tank Giggle

steel python
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Like we usually see this 50k DPS BM and he tanks it