#Kung Fu Master
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he play fire.
Hope no one dropped anything good yesterday, there will be a full server rollback probably 
Does anyone have fire build 😄
comet build better than only ck build?
WTS Eu
hmm i don't think so... that'll piss off a lot of non-involved players. They should do targeted rollbacks if possible, cause a lot of ppl grinded levels and upgraded stuff
WTB> Purple CycloneKick PMO
WTB Purple Tiger Strikes
WTB Purple CK 25k
so me saying ill be one for 26k surely wont affect this
WTB Purple CK 40k NA 🍌
WTB 40ktrue double crit earring 3mantra
40k purple gubong
wtb true bracelet too 35k+
Please please
Nah it won’t be . Everyone is just under cutting each other at this point in market . Thinking they will sell there straight jabs for 20k lol seems like it’s going back to normal
has ncsoft made any announcement? nothing right?
WTS Cyclone kick purple 90k each x8
People will laugh, but this is what prices will look like from now on
Unless the issue is addressed somehow
WTB Purple Tiger Strikes
I mean if you are buying from the site for dg
WTT CK for Tiger strikes EU
Dang wish I saved my tiger strike . I’d trade
Sr Eu xd
WTS
Any na kfm selling volcanic burst or spirit concentration?
Why would u trade a skill that’s worth more for skill worth less

NA CK is 38k While Tiger Strike went low of 24k
Plus I got bored of Tiger Strike Build
Oh
100% mb I seee wants to trade cyclone for tiger
Ok ok ok I thought was other way around

WTB Tiger Strikes EU
B>>>Pulverize
B>>> Spirit Concentration
NA
I feel much better on losing out on mujin card after rolling 93 
whoever selling message me
1
You know who it is

WTB NA Straight jab: Combo 7k
WTB NA: Shrouded shadow, spirit conc, volcanic burst
^ sure 100k each 🤠
Hello, is anyone playing the heavenly lotus kick? 😄
WTB 40ktrue double crit earring 3mantra
40k purple gubong
wtb true bracelet too 35k+
Please please
I did for a week , its strong for now
Coupled with comet strike additional cast
Do you mind sharing the build? I quite like the look of the skill but not sure about the set up and rotation 
Sent u message 👍
Thank you so much!
WTS EU
B>>>Pulverize
B>>> Spirit Concentration
NA
WTB PURPLE SOULCORE
WTB NA Straight jab: Combo
Wtb puprple tiger strike eu
WTB EU Victious Mystic Badge ( Comet strike cd)
🇪🇺 🇪🇺 WTB 🇪🇺 🇪🇺
Purple Straight Jab: Combo
🇪🇺 🇪🇺 WTS🇪🇺 🇪🇺
Purple Pivot Kick
Purple Chained Mace
WTB> PURP CK hit me up..
WTB 40ktrue double crit earring 3mantra
40k purple gubong
wtb true bracelet too 35k+
Please please
Wtb tiger strike eu
WTB Purple CK 40k NA 🍌
WTB TRUE EARING CRIT RATE CRIT DMG
u have enough already le me get this 1 lol
WTB> PURP CK hit me up..
https://youtu.be/5MksBnjOsrI?si=dwRX-AlgS1KaNvgY fun little challenge for those that think they are capable
kfm solo poh.
1st time KFM, currently running 2rf with comet strike. About ani cancelling, do my character supposed to flash colors showing the anicancel? I see videos online showing that visual indication, like out like that flashed red/blue. I dont see that when I try to anicancel, Am I doing it wrong?
flash colors? do you have a pic of it or sth? i never heard of it
Something like this
these are the effects of portrait bonds, like drain/onrush/reflex
drain: pink effect
onrush: red effect
reflex: light blue effect
Thank you
Boss 1 is harder to solo than Poharan
Oh yea. Those adds are a pain
why am i just now seeing your video
just popped up on suggested
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I posted in the #🎬︱video channel when I made it
I know maintenance still going on. But.
NA WTB Spirit Concentration 👻 pm if you selling one.
i think its not so much as ignoring but not having the resources to fully optimize
i myself said f it and just rerolled all the ones that said def into dmg ones
not all the same dmg either 
also went for exp if it showed up as well as im still lv 54.
a bit behind the curve i am
Take your time. You will become noob like me.
Yes.
Ill write out some stuff in a private note but meanwhile just ask any specific questions here. Many people to guide you
Ooo
No need, do you wanna ani cancel or just easy dps @grave schooner
I was keeen on having ariowhatever teach me since they have mentor roll
But ig this works too
I like ani cancel
I've literally been waiting for you to start streaming dummy 
and so have i, mehdi
Do you just wanna do the same thing over and over or do you like big numbers every now and then
@ashen scarab is americano kfm
I’d like to do things over and over
There you go, Bunnys guide
Cyclone kick is what you wanna go for
You get the leading palm mystic badge, cyclone kick soulbadge
Upkeep Searing palm by going from Stage 1-4 every 9 seconds
Do r2rf and in stage 3 and 4 do 2rf
Once you have 4k crit you do 2rf during stage 1 and 2 and r2ff on stage 3 and 4
Lower searing palms cd with chained mace, everlasting blow
This lacks few stuff as i’ve been told
Your main objective is to upkeep searing palm permanently and throwing out as many cyclone kicks as you can
Can always aim for the green books
In short
You don't lmao
But incase you really wanna
You still dont cuz unfortunately game is built for pve
Current stats: Lv54,928ap, 3100cr,3400cdmg,3000pierc,1746acc
I can r2ff and 2rf no issue on HE with a 99% accuracy so 4k crit rate is not the requirement. There are many other stats and lvl difference to consider before you think about just boosting to 4k crit. 4k is equivalent to 40% cr for those that dont know.
Basis of wind kfm is keeping your searing palm stacks up at all times during the fight and applying the bread and butter anicancel of 2rf and/or r2rf.
How do I do this? Every 8-10 seconds you apply a skill that procc the searing palm buff.
What if you drop the stacks? There are various skills you can use to reduce the cd to get back into the 1st of the 4 palm stages.
What do i do while im waiting to procc another stack? Dps= 2rf, r2f, r2ff, r2rf, 2r2f
What about my other dmg skills like pulverize or comet strike? As you play more you will become accustomed to keeping track of everything. It will become second nature and require minimal thinking.
Some small tricks to get back into the palm buff after dropping it accidentally ? You can make use of a counter while being attacked and trigger an iron shoulder cdr, q or e iframe INTO an attack to procc chained mace, if you use flurry that is like an emergency cdr if you succsefuly resist the dmg
Should I use my big burst skill whenever its on cd or only when in the last stage of palm? The answer to this lies in the mystic badge build you are rocking. I use double comet badges and thus im able to use my comet strike whenever I want because I can quickly get if back off cd due to r2ff.
More info later if I think about it. But at work so busy
just tiger strike me blud
Oh yes

🤌🏾
if u ever get the chance to see me pvp ever again, you'll only see suboptimal destro shenanigans
how can you be suboptimal destro
Do not abandon your origins
i throw + emote + assert dominance while ur on the floor
so you mean peak destro performance
if i have gubong, i'll even proc it so he can disrespect alongside
if you wanna see suboptimal something then just watch me 6v6
maybe 
will eagerly await your stellar performance
actually I've sold one of my comet strikes
it might not work anymore
you'll get it back 
So you already know kfm ?
This specifically why I asked are you for real in the other thread chat
Last time im taking time out to give class advice 
Wtf
I appreciate your essay there
For real
What makes you think ik kfm?
???
how much of a trap is the 200g leg weapon craft
if lets say current siren is ~150 crit dmg+trash stat
its a super gamba
Siren upgrade is 100g with 20% chance so that seems like a trap too 
even if the leggy rolls double trash stats, the extra AP should sort of make up for the 150 crit dmg
and can reroll the substats in future
Well...considering sometime in the future well be able to reroll gear stats. Hard to say. I don't think the amount of resources required justifies that action
Whats the current crit rate you have that you think you might be willing to gamble a better stat on the hexwood?
3k crit rate, nothing in this game makes sense to upgrade
literally better off waiting for nc catchup handouts and levelling
Oh that's fine then
3000 is just perfect
Yea if you got the resources to burn i say go and craft the random leg
I have similar cr. 3090-3100 depending on insignia I swap.
Got no issues with hitting crits in any dungeon
Comet build needs a bit more crit, 3.5k seems like the sweet spot

every fight feels like another gamba, if all comets crit then godlike dps otherwise less than if I had just cyclone kicked

I'll do the craft once market opens and I can get 100g
Im also Comet and around went down from 3500 to 3300 and will probably continue going down as I minmax my gear further towards cdmg
Ive made a mistake of going full monke over crate early on in the game
3100 is around 30-31% base crit rate fyi if yall wanna base your min max around that
How do I know this? I could say but also nah
Ye.
I used to do that too when I had x cdr. But switched to leading palm past few weeks
Mainly cuz im trying to get sub 5 second kill on mushin.
And leading hitting like a truck helps alot with the speed runs
I love the massive numbers of leading but I just dont like the extra added tracking alongside comet
and roaring's ease of use is so appealing to me
I play the greedier version of comet that drops searing palm cdr (like chained mace) so it can stack more books. So needs a bit more crit to compensate since it doesn't rush stg4 as fast
Chained mace is a godsend
I absolutely love making use of it
This is my current build. Still looking to swap out for a purple volcanic and spirit convention
Sorry. My game crashed
Trying to reopen so I can copy my build. Didnt mean to leave anyone hanging 
Ill be switching my flurry resistance with shadow whenever market's up, and opt out everlasting blow to get a book stack
I wanna see how that will work out
Ive been searching for a C for a long while but the prices stayed absurd
With SS being on a 8s cooldown, its really the only skill needed to trigger all 4 palm stages on bosses
drop shrouded shadow too


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endgame ill be running 3 ck and 3 comets. jsut missing 2 cks. also the purple shroud as well -.- rocking a blue
@outer crest what is ss
Backstep
@outer crest how would this work ?
Use SS and iframe resist boss attacks to get your palm appliers. Every stage lasts 10 seconds while SS is 8 seconds. There's also like a 3 second window between SS'ing and when you actually have to apply palm, other skills don't drop the palm proc
if anyone gets purple gubong from heroic soul core i WTB
if anyone gets purple gubong from heroic soul core i WTB
I will buy for more
Do you care about the stats 
Also INb4 NCSOFT decides to make them all BOUND
three seconds ?! What the
it should receive the AP buff whenever that patch arrived
All soul core got AP buff?
the ones that has an active ability
I got chef tae soul core it tought it would be a buff in the near future. Ya maybe salvage it
The reason they're not buffing no active souls is because they're better than the active ones
If you got an Accuracy, Crate, Cdmg core it will likely stay better than any active
when ?
june 24 ?
How should I know
It’s better than any active ?!
Active is more better than 3 stats.
Will the KFM pro players please make up mind, before i salvage the CRAPPY Blood mane soul core I got
no 
how crappy lets see the stats
personally id play the long con and just keep it in inventory until we get ap boost on all
thats what im gonna do with this one
im keeping gubong on cuz i still like to time the burst on stage 4
okay okay
its not bad
not good but...
not bad


you can evade people
and block crits

sorry man im just trying to give you copium

mine didnt come with the statrs
i rerolled both twice
4 shards spent
not the best but ill take it
i would rather have an active for cc's
Acc and Cdmg are better than Pierce Crate. However, I'd still use the Tempest one
People are dramatically overrating devourer
I had a 90 crate 80 cdmg Devourer (Blue) that I swapped for a 60 acc 60 cdmg Infernal (Purple). My damage went up overall. 9 AP is nothing to scoff at. Devourer usage is really inconvenient as well
I mean, it got all the wrong stats 0/3
mines look like this
Piercing is obviously OK, but Crate, Cdmg & Acc are BIS
Assuming they are both at purple Rarity, one without activation will trump the other one if the combined value of BIS stats is at 200 or above
(personal rough estimate)
The casting time on cores is just horrible..
I havent even equipped the hexwood and dunno if I will, I gotta see the state of the market once its back, assuming they wont do anything about cores being tradable
prayge the bot farms make kfm bots so we can get cheap cores when they dump
less destro, more kfm!
market opening soon where volcanic burst and spirit conc at
lemme know if you got one and wts
Yeah wts my volcanic for 10k
6v6 is going to be fun, all these free heroic soul cores 
WTB purple Gubong EU PM now can book it
Hello guys do you know any good video about fire build tips and trick rotation etc
10k? Thats OP
should i go tiger strike or cyclone kick?
Tiger strike if you have high ping , only care about dps. The real kfms go cyclone kick even if its weaker because it has anicancel
i have about 30 ping, is that high?
straight jab
just look at human cow profile are u NA?
or u can look at mine dont matter
i'm eu
uhm..
pivot kick, shrouded shadow, comet, cyclone kick, comet, back step, everlasting blow, searing
strait jab, roaring tiger/leading palm up to u if u wana go for cyclone kick or comet build
swift strike, counter
i have purple roaring tiger
is it CD one?
focus
oof
nothingmore
u want CD
dats for comet strike build tho if u wana go stictly CK u can go leading palm
juz go tiger strike so u can be lazy lol
i used to play tiger strike in live
my wrist hurst coz of CK build
i wanted to do a macro for it, they actually gave me one but it doesn't work properly and i don't want to spend like 1 hour fixing it ahaha
i can do anicancel myself tho
and thats why my wrist is hurtin
my wrist is dead already so
all good tho follow wat your heart desires lol
yeah, i like both builds
really difficult to decide
i might wait until purple from last day
of compensation
i got virtuous cyclone kick badge so
that might be a signal
Sunflower best kfm

Fire is stronger then wind if you have legendary
wind empowers fire 
The people that play wind and can’t beat fire and say fire is stronger just suck at the game
i suck at the game
fire beats water
wind players
i just want to play something that doesn't require to empty my bank account 
which is always empty anyways
They do 15% ish more you can calculate it yourself
Its not about who im playing with its about the max theoretical dps. I think ur the guy i keep seeing spreading misinformation too
??? What misinformation am I spreading
@lucid herald bro am I wrong about this?
If I am correct me
Sinful is probably the best Wind player NA
Not to mention he is just outright correct
Unless you have Legendary Tiger Strike, Wind trumps Fire very hard
I spread misinformation about ncsoft announcement about their maintainence because they a clown company
But then it comes to testing builds and damage in serious
Are people not aware of bnslogs? https://beans.azuradara.dev/
Like, everything is easily looked up
Hybrid Wind KFM does 10-15% more DPS versus Fire of equivalent gear
Not to mention that Wind is cheaper to build than Fire too
The only requirement is being good at the class
^ yup
Are you the guy that was saying pure cyclone kick build is the best , maybe im confusing you with someone else idk
i gotta be that guy
but sinful is not the best wind player i seen
naari ano
Also leaderboard is ok but i wouldnt say its a reflection of someones knowledge. You could just whale out and be top dps
on viridian coast is the best ive seen so far
weekly fire vs wind debate 
also my goat @median flume on EU
both wind kfms and 100% manual...at least until recently i think naari trying to not wear his wrist out too much
Im just going off of calculations since its hard finding a 1 for 1 equal test
There is no debate. Everyine saying Fire trumps Wind doesn't know what they're talking about
Did you test it yourself or how do you know?
Those best kfms are talking. Teach me kfm plz sinful
Brother i hate repeating myself #1357802542725075285 message
Those best kfms are talking. Teach me kfm plz sinful
idk, I agree both sides - fire is still unquestionably better in certain fights
like twins
Tiger has AoE yes. However, fights that require AoE are not relevant
Sinful is the best. We need to learn kfm oneday
also I never see fire kfms abuse book stacking as much as they could
So your proof is leaderboard , whoever whales the most is right

Yeah good one. Except we literally see Wind KFMs with less gear outperform Fire

Why is it always nobodies that have strong opinions?
I mostly turn off my azure though lol
Maybe in 5 more years when server merge

Gg.. sinful plays alone until neo shuts down
how many wind ? XD
volocmas is top whale fire kfm
Whales
Kas is wind I think
full CK troller yes
kas is nerfing himself

I am used to troll with my swift build one time lol. Dang i like to see some trol builds
Yes, Volcomas has the most gear out of any KFM. However, please keep in mind that Colossal Hexwood is not a good example. Aoe puddles can amp Fire dmg towards the end of the fight
Who is volcomas? He is so strong
go to bloodmane
I'm still level 55 42%
that boss dont move
58?! Lol
and look at the numbers for that i think thats a good example
so hexwood is better for fire too like mujin, atleast wind can still post top numbers on baylee 
55? Its bc u run lab only lol
Consuming too much time
Wind hard locked at #1
nonono runs are fast now.... Just too busy this week
Damn i forgot to turn off azure..
Not to mention Jinfule and Sinful are above say Ginshie who has Legendary Tiger Strike
someone can send Azgaro profil pls ?
Avg
Peak
show avg if you can
Azgaro is not wind
cuz hybrid wind can burst huge
Why average?
Azgaro is wind
Hes one punch man
so it inflates the numbers
Not wind
I am just newbie
like me i can burst huge\
Yes punch man
Winddddd
Average doesn't make sense. Average accounts even pulls that you did with significantly lower gear a month or two ago
and break 30k dps on hae but then it dips off after gubong wears off so its not my true dps
Azgaro is next meta wind big brain
Red glove = fire
OOOH
i thought it would be avg dps of your best fight
=one punch man
Ok let me explain. Peak is not burst. It's their best fight
My best burst at bbr was 98k so far.
But i usually forget to put azure
This is what peaks stands for yeah
Hmm i dont why we say wind or fire lol. It different in neo
원펀맨
I am just puncher
concept is the same
Not puncture
was this the build you were using at longgui wb ?
In any case, I hope this settles the argument. We have numbers, Wind is better by a lot
cuz if so i have some new info for yall 
Are you still playing it after the nerfs?
until next week when another noobie asks for fire vs wind
Hmm i am newbie and noob, but idk why u all think it is nerf lol..

if you did that means that means the new comet build pre nerf is barely better than regular comet build


Or mostly low rank, my finger and new rotation is tough
Idk why ppl think it is nerf tbh lol..
@hybrid dove
Idk man
Yes
I do
were you using thrust punch build during yestedays longgui
I am still practicing
cuz me and azgaro were neck and neck
it wasnt "nerfed", it was "bugfixed" 
and i use hybrid comet build
stat difference to show that hybrid comet is still better than thruster punch big dmg
I am using this build recently
Might right might wrong. You need to consider that I am not that good at control yet
get better so i can gather more info
Lol one day..
so people can poost the skill for less price in f5

i still havent gotten to try it yet
Sinful knows my true dps.
After the nerf it becomes the weakest build even compare to pure cyclone kick build
Hmm half right half wrong, but I dont like to debate for that topic
thanks for sharing all this information, i was confused before but now i understand fire kfm is stronger than wind
Azgaro is to strong
Oh pre nerf its very strong
After nerf will be stronger XD
Azgaro teach me your ways
:x
U already got the legendary pulv with ck
it just sucks that blue doesnt affect cd of the lotus kick
Keep that dude
otherwise id try it
Need legend cyclone
^
I thought they just adjusted the ap from like 9 to 3.x
Should be same rotation no? 🤔
no
rotation changes totally once it is changed..
I make my own rotation, so there is no vid

Yeah i think i was doing 70k
nvm maybe I shouldn't post
so should i lock in ck build?
I just build my own rotation and builds so. Hope no one follows me.
One day I was trolling with legendary swift build and some ppl were following..
if you wanna anic in peace and do nothing else then yes
i like to anic
(Im talking baout full CK)
but i need 100% of my brain power for that
I think u should wait until you open ur random box and make decision after. If you get bound tiger it will feel bad if you buy cyclone kick from selection chest
yeah
But idk what stage u are in with your character
i get about 9k dps lvl 47 700 ap
Wind is much more fun to play too but is subjective , to me i will never go fire
Once fully legendary, fire has the highest potential
Unless legend cyclone
yup

legendary ck when?
need Legendary CK or Comet to beat fire
KR rank1 is that build. too expensive
I like pulv
I want that build
best kfm build is having a bd slave who tanks and grabs for you 
i don't xD
can't afford
I like to keep blood strike for bleed, so my dps is not that great tbh compare to my gear.
It should be higher with different build thing, but bleed is so good.
i think you are fine with blood strike while youre using thurster
I tried to switch to straight jab but then my tree party instantly needed me back to bleed

@simple sandal
do trees bleed?
Yeah but im lazy
why every wind kfm have this problem
yeah I built this to use blood strike lol
i posted before in the past how guiding fist casting is very ez to get the stacks
just dont get 5 right away thats all
U could rmb but i dont want to lol
do you know the comet guiding fist tech as well 
haven't seen any comet winds use it
4 rmb 4?

pretty sure im the only one in my party of 3 kfms that uses it consistently
its just a small change in muscle memory
also second comet doesn't block movement so its good to reposition
instead of firing immediately
i do this in wb alot
using 4 rmb 4 pretty much guarantees 100% bleed uptime
its clutch
yep
its because the 2nd one is instant
so it registers the dmg immediately if you rmb 4
what other techs do you have for comet 
I have another one I might be willing to share
you know what
im dumb
i mixed up my "A" players
nevermind everything i said earlier about thrust vs hybrid comet @hybrid dove

i was thinking of ayoma
totally different person
Hmm. Lol
I just dont like comet additional dmg one lol
Ask questions to mentor. I am bad
I wanna go hr
Same i hate it
Server transfer when
Yeah I and my discord see it lol. U r always in my discord vc lol

I watch drama on side
Awe
And talk to u guys lol
That means took forever
I think that one was 10min a one
Stay viridian they get all the wb drops
Omg...

Teach me kfm
I’m not good I’m bad
I just go wb and keep top5 and thats all i do. I am just too bad to be rank 1.
Rank 1 lying again

How many tries did it take to get the swift? 
nah nah nah
show the one where you cheesed me out of 5

this mf show up late
and i just watch as his name slowly creep up
tbf my own fault if i didnt mess up the rotation i wouldve still gotten 5 
Which one are you 🤔
yuilia
11..
if you for some reason get cced
if you already hit the first 4
and you tab right away you can still hti the 2nd 4 in time
done this without fail multiple times
yep know about this accidentally 
i sacrifice if i know my tab isnt on cd during a mech
cuz i know ill still get the dmg off
face roll into a kdf
I guess my tech is for all kfms, counter can be countered. Auto and pressing 1 immediately will counter the counter
another is the camera angle
haven't seen any kfms do that
during scarlet twins when they dash behind you
if you for some reason already pressed 4
you can still turn the camera around and hit both
Thats common knowledge 
Mostly in 1v1 pvp ppl do that
But not necessary in pve
Common knowledge to bns live player*
mushin second floor has a countering dummy to practice it
good to practice full rotation and try countering the counter

unfortunately i rarely do beluga cuz if my working hours
I keep forgetting not everyone is from bns live. Imagine playing this game without nostalgia
so theres no need for me to learn it
its great for me
im already in love with kfm

so anything that kfm used to have i dont exactly "miss"
like party buffs
never experienced that so dont know what im missing
If you're stacking Legendary books true
yea thats amazing for red girl at bsh2
intersting
might be a chance for me to try it
i like tanking scarlet
but i usually just walk behind her while r2ff
if u want safer route q/e before she counters
usually what i do cuz i have skill issue for 2>1 / r>1
also the reaction/ping required i think would be an issue
doomed
80-90% of the kfms who still play in VC are that list
i mean
lets be real here
Lmao
fire kfm does more dmg on tree because trees are weak against fire but strong against wind
Cooked server cooked game
No
yes
if u picked wind element on wind kfm u did less dmg
If you had the wrong element u would do 0 damage
yeah only if only legendary. not purple
legendary comet strike when?
I'll just mention that Wind KFM was probably the highest DPS class on live. Fire was competing for the weakest. Wind KFM was literally doing 2x when compared to Fire. Fire was so bad, seeing a Fire KFM was like finding a shiny pokemon
If they made additional damage comet instant i would play it. Feels like ass with the cast time
Soulburn and spamming x was 
imagine if stage 4 x animation as a dmging skill that you repeatedly do
No vid, just google some old kfm bns vids - warlock teams were pretty much mandatory in live 
dude called federo trashtalking me 
I hated RF 
RF just put KFM in line with any other 2 button spamming class with a little bit of added timer on it, I was always a fan of 2RF and a fan of NEO variants we have now
thats why I never liked it
I liked the pacing , was much faster but i know what you mean
"hated" probably was a too strong of a word, I just liked it the least over the other
Now thats a hot take
Good luck to everyone on the 7th day
What that mean
wish u luck get 3 CKs
need yall to wait a bit. My dg not reeeaaaddyyy
还有中国人玩拳么?
I'll agree that wind is better and more fun than Fire
I played wind KFM in live and stuck with it even when wolf came out, no regrets
But in neo? Bruh
Fire is boring but I can't deny the damage is good for less investment
??? Bro you think i can read/write? 😆
All this talk about fire or wind being better with no videos smh. The only thing that is certain is that fire is braindead to play compared to wind, the average braindead fire player probably can hit the dps ceiling of the class very easily while most wind players will never be able to. Also fire benefits much more from xml edits 👍
But, yeah someone really needs to take the hit for the team and compare with blue books on dummy & bosses 🙏


Idk man, roll crit rate with those other 2 stats and you have a VERY strong soulcore there for farming higher level content
That low crit damage roll sucks though
But I'm sure if you're killing tree, that purple soul will get you more damage than Gubong will over the 4-5 minute fight
Best to compare purple books because most players wont be stacking legendaries
Or stay at blue 
I would say congratz
the average braindead fire player probably can hit the dps ceiling of the class very easily
Absolutely not.
Also fire benefits much more from xml edits
This is cheating, and is bannable. Holds no weight as an argument
Yeah, that sounds expensive though, even blues would be somewhat costly. Ideally we would compare at all different stages of gear and different builds, different ping/pc specs etc.
Okay, fine the average wind kfm player then ¯_(ツ)_/¯.
and yeah, its cheating, but it is on the way/here and as an old player you should know this.
it is also important to discuss especially since KFM no longer has much party utility other than dps so it raises a question of balance, since I doubt ncwest will pursue aggressive anti-cheat measures like KR or if they are even able to legally.
isn't it a trash purple
how much is it worth
Reminder for all : divine gems account balance are shared between NA/EU. If you play on EU, you can make a character on NA and collect another round of attendance rewards. So another shot at a soul core 
How does this work? Is the received inbox shared between NA and EU? Or are you saying you could get a core and sell it in the other region?
you can sell the core on NA's marketplace, any gems earned is usable on any region/server
this is actually a decent way to swap servers - sell all your gear on server A and convert to gems. Make character on server B and rebuy new gear with those gems
Except book prices in NA are generally higher than that of EU 
Thats what i did when I quit eu 
For my build, it is must have so
Cheating in video-games is for absolute users. I have no interest in this
There's maybe like one more Fire KFM other than me that I've seen play the class proficiently. Not even on EU, but NA. With that in mind, I'm not very convinced with your words here.
Many attempts later - 183ms poh solo done 
What counts as playing it proficiently
Is someone actually going for evade leading palms or something
Doing at least 95% of what the class has to offer
This is not actually relevant gameplay wise
Yeah well that basically eliminates most of the population since we all have ping or hardware issues
¯_(ツ)_/¯
You got to admit that it's a little weird if majority of the playerbase has ping/hardware issues
Is this not a factor in other video games?
Sure it is but on average I'd say not nearly to the extent of bns
Besides, that's hard to define a lot of the time anyway
Few games are only about getting a bigger number
Well at least from what i play
And i don't think this is weird at all
We're big regions
Sorry, I'm difficult to convince. EU is a very large region and everyone playing from inside it should have good enough ping. Obviously people playing on EU from outside of it will have ping issues. Hardware limitations will be a factor in any given game. It's not like BnS is particularly demanding
Most MMOs are like this, no?
Parsing and logging is very common in these types of games
Eu countries have a lot of varying quality connections, some people in my country 60 kms apart have double ping
And you don't have much choice in many places
Okay, I get that. However, this isn't a BnS specific issue. These folks should have the same problems even playing other video games
And hardware is a bigger problem in bns cuz it's completely unoptimized
That's up to networking implementation
Which is again very poor in bns
Iirc KR has very high quality networking infrastructure so they don't even consider these issues
also kr is very small so they pretty much all live in the server
BnS is not particularly demanding when compared to other games in 2025. It's probably on the lower end if compared to other MMOs. Naturally you will have performance issues if playing on a 10 year old machine
BnS does have very unstable servers. However, this wouldn't double your ping or anything of the sort. It would just cause spikes or crashes
It impacts how much of a difference your ping makes, not just your ping itself
And this is just false, demanding aside the frame drops' causes are completely unreasonable
Sure there's no denying that. All this said, are you trying to say that there are no players playing under optimal settings?
You should see how much load just the ui has
I said most
And I'd say it's around 90% of all players
I'm playing on a mediocre build from 2019. To build my setup today, it would cost no more than 500 euro. I'm playing the game without noticeable FPS drops, or at least without any issues. Again, playing any video game on a toaster is asking too much..
Good for you
I don't know what exact build you have or how exactly bns behaves with different builds but i know that bns is unoptimized
I'm not arguing that. I just find it extremely hard to believe that most of the players are having either connection or performance issues. It's unrealistic
I have an i9 14900k and a 4080 and i can’t play with chars on or else i’ll get fps drops 🤪
Well I'm judging from my own experience with people i interact with
Cpu driven game poggers
All parties, all clannies, all friends that i talk with have similar experiences
Barely anyone plays with 20 ms or below, discarding hardware topic entirely
Chars on lol
And what settings are you on?
Not all max definitely
Can’t show u rn
Don’t have a single slider at max
If you have an amd ryzen 3dx cpu you can play with chars on
But i’m not gonna rebuild my whole set up just for that
In what game do you get to enjoy 20 ping though? Not to mention 20 is extremely rare and barely anyone has this kind of connection. I'm playing on 32 myself. The NA Fire KFM I mentioned was playing on 60 however
kfm = gigachad
Why are other games a factor here?
The whole starter was about playing proficiently, i.e. 95% of potential dps here
It's a plain fact that ping impacts dps
Because I've never heard anyone say that the majority of the community is crippled due to ping/hardware in any game I've ever played.
I absolutely understand that a reasonable number of players are impacted, but saying 90% seems out of this world to me
it seems common sense to me
all the way back to cs 1.6 where i started playing online, ping issues have been constant
and besides crippled is a strong word, it's not like you can't play reasonably with higher ping
but you sure can't do 95%+ of potential dps
I’ll say that in any mmo i’ve played, ping has not been as large of a discussion as it is in bns
Both in live and neo
lower ping will always win in bns, assuming same gear
Really true hahah
For Fire KFM specifically, yes. For all classes / specs no. Stable ping is usually more important
damn near everything relies on ping
i've played 4 classes in neo and all classes except des/sum in live
I’ve played lost ark and maplestory and ping has never been a large topic of discussion there
even if it seems a build is ping friendly, it just means it loses less in higher ping, not that it doesn't lose anything
@reef island Please drop your parse for these guys. I'm getting tired
that has exactly 0 meaning in this discussion
LMAOOO
1.77GB file sigh
Can't even upload a video
@reef island Where's your YT channel bro
It's not about DPS. You will understand my point if you see what he is able to do with the high ping he has
How come you stopped at 1:38
2 cycles of BB
Whats your ping sinful?
I see
if i continue dmg would remain same
Bruh thats not high ping
Bro are those players living on the moon?
I can literally play on NA with less than 180 ping
dragon tongue i cant play
I'm playing from Africa dude

i lose dps compared to people playing on 20 ping or less even if i have more gear
Doesnt that prove the other guys point that the ping is very important lol
There are classes and specs that are all about low ping
Ice fm i lose to 30 ping players too
And there are classes that are all about stable ping
Cause you brought in sin and bm?
kfm is stable ping
i did
cuz he said my ping is not considered high
i tried to prove his point it is
are u reading?
Sure but for fire if i can get in more tiger strikes then i do more dmg no?
I mean i think kfm needs both stable and good ping , if you have 180 ms with stable ping you'll drop input all the time with ani cancel
Fire does want low ping
Wind wants stable ping
However, most of the classes in the game care about stable ping instead of low ping
I mean i think most classes want both
If you have 180 ms, you should play on a server on your own continent lmao
man is playing from antartica
Africa no server tho i want to play on NA
with the penguins and polar bears











