Force Master

[fervent pond]

wtf u got a purple ice rain from bp? what a dog

[slow magnet]

nah i got frost sheath hp from that one haha

i got it from the CS event thingy

[fervent pond]

speedrun?

DOGGIN

[slow magnet]

ye

my bound from level 50 is force blast rip

[harsh nymph]

My bound from 50 - Ice rain, from BP - Stun, from 10minutes event - Frost sheet

[wicked citrus]

Force blast and Ice rain? LUCKY

[jagged hull]

Short Fuse, Cold Snap and Inferno

Really makes you think

[slow magnet]

rip

[slow magnet]

Frost sheet is nice for 6v6

[wicked citrus]

Frost Fury, Fiend Fire, and Body Double

[slow magnet]

cant really play pvp without purple frost sheet

[jagged hull]

Honestly the heal seems convenient

[wicked citrus]

Ya not the worst

[slow magnet]

body double kinda nice but

[wicked citrus]

Frost Fury tho

Oh…

[harsh nymph]

focus regen, not heal:(

[jagged hull]

I'm still not convinced deadlock actually contributes anything

[harsh nymph]

THis i mean

Not sheet, sheat

A little bit misgendering:)

[jagged hull]

Free defense

[slow magnet]

SHEATH

[jagged hull]

😎

[slow magnet]

YOU MEAN

NOT SHEAT

[wicked citrus]

I was so confused lol

[harsh nymph]

Sheath, ok:)

[slow magnet]

Same

this one is the one i was talking about

[wicked citrus]

Is sheath even good in pvp

[slow magnet]

reduces focus cost

[slow magnet]

yes

you can do the divine veil healing tech

where you sheath inside veil

and get healed from veil

[wicked citrus]

Oh right thats super helpful

[slow magnet]

if theres a ground ticking AOE you can heal a lot in 3 seconds

or if they arent paying attention

they keep whacking you a bit

and you go ZOOM

full hp

[wicked citrus]

I just go in with my pve build and pray

[harsh nymph]

same

[slow magnet]

playing without chill RMB and pvp impact is

really painful

[wicked citrus]

Ya not the best

[slow magnet]

if you fight another FM or Summoner it can be okay

[fickle glen]

hi tsk

how did ur gamba went

[slow magnet]

if you fight a KFM without the freeze

its gg

lol

[wicked citrus]

I see a kfm and I just accept my death

[fickle glen]

I didnt see anything in ur profile so I assume you didn't gambad yet!

[slow magnet]

you need this one for KFM

to break the counter

then you stun combo using 1

and rmb coldsnap

[wicked citrus]

Holy you break their counter

WAITTTT

[slow magnet]

and prevents them from using counters

for 6 seconds

[wicked citrus]

Alright 2k dgs gone

[fickle glen]

i got hayday in my phone i just open it when kfm decides to sit on my head

0 stress

would recommend

[slow magnet]

its kinda funny because most fms forgot that spec existed , always used defense break in live pvp

so when you break kfm counter and disable they are like

???

wtf

button dont work

[pallid grotto]

frost tornado healing 18% more useful immo..

and against kfms or sins with perma evade this does nothing

[slow magnet]

get enough healing from veil + sheath / ice tab

usually

[slow magnet]

they only get the perma evade if you already hit into the counter

[pallid grotto]

not me

but ppl around

love to do that

[slow magnet]

ya if team mates dont know how to play just

dont bother trying to kill KFM

tenacity also op in 6s

[pallid grotto]

ye using it too

[wicked citrus]

Ya i didnt even look into other skills outside of pve, since no arena sadly

Live I played destro so this is my first time playing FM

[harsh nymph]

So

Will be attempt 8 after update

[pallid grotto]

gl

share some purple books on market man

[wicked citrus]

Jesus

1/6 chance is so scary though

Well first off

[pallid grotto]

5% chance to get gold first

😂

[wicked citrus]

1/20 to get the chance of 1/6

LMFAO

[pallid grotto]

why

3 of 6 are not useless

so once u hit gold its 50/50 at least

[median sonnet]

even before that

[wicked citrus]

i think they only want Ice Rain

[median sonnet]

hitting gold is 50/50 too

[pallid grotto]

that's like saying

i wake up and a random stranger brings me 1mil

chance exists 50/50 right?

reality much

[median sonnet]

hell yea

see you get it

[wicked citrus]

I mean if I got gold bb or char i’d switch without second thought

But hitting ice rain

Man

Half your skills become useless

More room to stack ice rains

[harsh nymph]

Dreams. dreams:)

[pallid grotto]

all u need is lmb rmb

actually not even rmb

😂

[median sonnet]

wtf, low quality emote

[pallid grotto]

gameplay in a nutshell 24/7

[slow magnet]

Better off bidding WB drop

from yesterday

[pallid grotto]

that's a lot..

[slow magnet]

thats just over half the average cost to hit a legendary

[pallid grotto]

dropping it is the first thing

AHA

[slow magnet]

At 2000 per purple book (which is already rare to find, easier to find 2100-2200) it is an average of 473,430 gems to hit the legendary box (20 attempts)

[pallid grotto]

2k NA inflated

[slow magnet]

This includes the 1 book refunded on fail

and the gold cost

so, even if you bid 270k on the next one to win it

it woud still be better on average than trying to transmute it yourself.

[pallid grotto]

tragic statistics

doing math is never good

[harsh nymph]

NA?

[pallid grotto]

there are ppl who tried to get leg 25x, failed all and quit

400k divines gone

[slow magnet]

yes

If you're wondering

a summoner bought it

they hit rumblebees

gg

[pallid grotto]

salvage next patch gg

and gamba again

just pray not getting 3 frags

[harsh nymph]

Got 3 and went from window:)

[pallid grotto]

landing without pillows i assume

[harsh nymph]

What price you bough beams?

Per 1

[slow magnet]

@pallid grotto are you a beamer lol

[pallid grotto]

back to beams

from ice

yd

[harsh nymph]

So. What price for beams?

[pallid grotto]

beams sell at 15k

[harsh nymph]

I need to sell one

[pallid grotto]

do lowkey same dps as ice

[slow magnet]

Is he the strongest beamer

[pallid grotto]

cause u can stack more for less investment

[median sonnet]

blazing bean

[slow magnet]

What WB rank on EU do you get with that

[harsh nymph]

y

[fickle glen]

no he is just anime waifu

🙏

tsk is not real

take ur meds

[pallid grotto]

wb around 56-58k

i'm on cinder, low pop

[median sonnet]

he just yoinked all the bubbles

[pallid grotto]

gib wildfire change so i can slot 1 more bb..

[slow magnet]

not as strong as NA beamer

[pallid grotto]

leg beam..

[median sonnet]

[pallid grotto]

steven?

[slow magnet]

yeah, drop the fiend fire, meteor if you have it, and shock fire

[pallid grotto]

need certain skill first

[slow magnet]

and dual dragons

[slow magnet]

even without wildfire

you just have to have a burn bot

to burn it for you

LOL

[wicked citrus]

Steven had spent so much changing to dragonchar from ice

[jagged hull]

Honestly do you even need frost palm

[wicked citrus]

Only to go Legendary BB like 3 days later

LMFAO

[slow magnet]

ya cuz focus cost

[pallid grotto]

it does decent dps

[slow magnet]

it does decent dps

and the diminshing returns on GM

after 35 points its 1.1% per point

not worth to drop using frost palm alltogether

[wicked citrus]

But Steven isnt hitting top 3 world boss right

Or has he got up there again

[slow magnet]

last night

[wicked citrus]

Oh ok good

[median sonnet]

damm its close in na

[wicked citrus]

For a while he was like 6-8

[slow magnet]

But considering i do not have legendary, on equal gear beam would be much worse

[wicked citrus]

Oh ya for sure

Legendary ice rain is HUGE

[slow magnet]

beam city

[fickle glen]

i dont understand

why he doesnt have inferno

typo

[slow magnet]

it doesnt do much damage

[fickle glen]

it resets the wall?

[slow magnet]

dont need to reset wall

wall is for the crit damage buff

[fickle glen]

..?

resetting wall means longer cdmg buff

[slow magnet]

then you also need shock fire, and inferno

two more books

[pallid grotto]

i might go full beam build

[fickle glen]

how valuable the gm points at that stage even

idk

[median sonnet]

that doesnt rly give that much ngl

[pallid grotto]

and ignore badges

[slow magnet]

and it would be very unreliable to instant cast inferno

[pallid grotto]

if we get wildfire

[slow magnet]

if theres a bunch of

[pallid grotto]

but need leg beam really

[slow magnet]

detpalms

[median sonnet]

i guess neither does another beam at 72 gm

[slow magnet]

if you are solo sure, but det palmers going to make it impossible

a failed shock fire to cast inferno is horrible'

[median sonnet]

[fickle glen]

sounds like skill issue!

[wicked citrus]

Ok everyone, wrap it up, go Infernal palm

[slow magnet]

im ice

i will find the char users

and detonate them

[wicked citrus]

Meeee

[median sonnet]

the cdmg buff is not worth 2 beams tho

its like 2-3% more dmg

[slow magnet]

its just 1 beam to get the blazing wall

The wall itself also does big damage

[wicked citrus]

I love being kicked from parties bc I run purple blazing palm

[slow magnet]

like 70k damage

[median sonnet]

for inferno + shockfire to reset it i mean

[wicked citrus]

Weed out the baddies and I dont have to do anything

[median sonnet]

the wall is good cause it does a shiton of dmg ye

[slow magnet]

its worth it to just run solo wall

dont need full uptime

[median sonnet]

ye ik

i wanted to say its not worth to reset it

[pallid grotto]

wall itself does dmg, it's not only the dmg buff

[median sonnet]

for 2 beams

[slow magnet]

the wall itself does more damage than 1 beam, so replacing a beam in rotation with the wall cast is net gain

cdmg buff is just bonus

[median sonnet]

the dmg of the wall is like 5x more than what the buff gives you

[wicked citrus]

Only thing I hate about wall

[pallid grotto]

if i get leg beam i'll consider ignoring badge

[wicked citrus]

Is isnt it like a 4m range

[pallid grotto]

and slot 2 more beams

else no

[slow magnet]

5m

[median sonnet]

5

[wicked citrus]

Well i guess hes tanking

LMAO

[slow magnet]

But

if its outside 5m

it whiffs

it wont cast at 5m

[jagged hull]

Honestly

[jagged hull]

Wall felt so obnoxious during story I would like to never use it again

[slow magnet]

im honestly gunna try

running wall on ice

[wicked citrus]

[slow magnet]

and dropping one of my remaining blue ice rains

[pallid grotto]

wall on ice is worth if u don't have full purple

it's better than a blue book

worse than purple

[slow magnet]

its just annoying as fk

to use lmao

[wanton root]

LF the owner of these on F5, I wanna negociate NA

[median sonnet]

its just a lot of dmg

[wicked citrus]

Crit dmg accuracy

[jagged hull]

How does it compare to Meteor Shower though

[median sonnet]

waay better

[wicked citrus]

[pallid grotto]

similar dps but gives 10% cdmg for 12-15s

[median sonnet]

its not simillar in dps wdym

[slow magnet]

it does way more damage than meteor

[wicked citrus]

Ya wall is way stronger I think

[median sonnet]

meteor is like 16x ap, wall is like 27x

[wicked citrus]

I mean alone, 10% cdmg buff is insane

[jagged hull]

How though

[median sonnet]

even before the buff

[jagged hull]

Its 10x ap vs 16x ap

[slow magnet]

wall gets a detonate on EVERY TICK

[jagged hull]

For fire specs that is, without burn its identical-ish.

[slow magnet]

it is 5 embers per tick

and instant detonates every tick

[median sonnet]

yea

27x

[slow magnet]

OP

[median sonnet]

what lethe said

[jagged hull]

Oh I misread

🤔

[median sonnet]

it gets 5 more explosions besides the original 9x ap

[jagged hull]

I use char

[median sonnet]

each 3.75x

[jagged hull]

Which I guess creates the most ember so hype?

[wicked citrus]

Ok im going wall instead of a blue ice rain thanks everyone for influencing me

[pallid grotto]

it's ass to use

u'll see
but it's gain overall

[median sonnet]

wall just creates 5 ember a second

so doesnt rly matter

[wicked citrus]

A gains a gain

[wanton root]

range on blazing wall is indeed ass

[slow magnet]

gain as long as you dont get slammed by a circle AOE

[jagged hull]

It creates 5 per hit?

[median sonnet]

ye

it creates 5 per hit

[slow magnet]

yes and instantly blows them up

[jagged hull]

Oh thats even better

[median sonnet]

and detonates when it reaches 5

so it just detonates 5 times

[slow magnet]

makes it EVEN HARDER for shock fire users to do anything

so WORTH

[jagged hull]

I guess the net focus gain on meteor is pretty small too

[median sonnet]

yep

[median sonnet]

it is, cause meteor costs 2 focus, so you gain 3 overall

[wicked citrus]

Down with fire fms

[wanton root]

Shock fire? You mispelled War Criminals

[median sonnet]

which is not much better than a blazing palm

[slow magnet]

10% cdmg stack it with the cdmg mantras 24% for big numbers

[jagged hull]

Gotta pray everytime I use dual dragons 1 xd

[wicked citrus]

Nope time for you to go ice

[jagged hull]

Too expensive

I have the basics in purple and thats it

[wanton root]

Or just Go Dragonchar and dont care about 100% burn uptime

[jagged hull]

The focus increase is kinda rough

But yeah dont have to be too strict on burn

[median sonnet]

dragonchar seems to be better but its not, its only gonna get better in like 3-4 weeks

[slow magnet]

dragonchar is better than ice on purple

higher AP ratios

[median sonnet]

for now it isnt!

[slow magnet]

higher ember generation

[pallid grotto]

dc wins on purple tier

[slow magnet]

for detonates

[wanton root]

Dragonchar works with ember detonators atleast

[slow magnet]

no, it does do more on dungeons when solo FM

[wanton root]

Its not cucked by others detonating your embers

[median sonnet]

it will be better soon tho (when im done buying chars of the market)

[slow magnet]

char just has higher AP ratio, even without burn

casts slightly faster than ice rain

[median sonnet]

yeye i kid i kid

it is better

[slow magnet]

and requires less supporting skills

so you can stack more chars

[median sonnet]

its still like half the price of ice rain

for some reason

[slow magnet]

char on NA is ~36k and ice rains i just bought 3x for 28k

[wanton root]

Purple Dragonchar on NA has similar price to purple ice rain, AFAIK

Oh its even higher

[median sonnet]

here its 15k char 30k rain

[jagged hull]

The annoying thing is deciding where to use the upcoming selection box on

[slow magnet]

nobody is buying ice rains to stack

[jagged hull]

When ice is double the price of char

[slow magnet]

I am literally the only ice user on this list, its 1 beam, 1 ice and 8 dragonchars

[jagged hull]

EU has way more ice I think

[median sonnet]

na market is cooked bro ngl

[slow magnet]

I only do as much as the babo because i just outgear him

[median sonnet]

[fervent pond]

Ice needs ping

Can’t keep up with ping painge

[slow magnet]

i have mantras and some AP over him

even though he has timestream lol

dont ask from what

[wanton root]

So you're the reason I cant buy insignas at a reasonable price

[slow magnet]

1 more upgrade to go

[jagged hull]

Isnt it kinda hard to get good ping on NA

Compared to EU

[slow magnet]

not really

i just open the game and play

[jagged hull]

Yeah I dont mean youre moving accros the country for it xD

[slow magnet]

theres rumors a certain player is living in an air bnb in virginia where the servers are located, to get really low ping

[jagged hull]

But I remember eu people getting better ping on na then some na people

[median sonnet]

[cedar tulip]

what’s your full page?

[slow magnet]

geography

[cedar tulip]

That amount of AP on a single is insane

[slow magnet]

land area

[jagged hull]

NA is big

[slow magnet]

if you are on the west coast

[jagged hull]

I guess like the

[slow magnet]

its quite far

[jagged hull]

Underwater cables are located favorably

[slow magnet]

dont have the new ones

other than 1

not worth the cost to do insignias all over again lmao

to get double stat ones

[jagged hull]

Thats why I slacked on my insignia

[cedar tulip]

Wowe

[jagged hull]

So I can get the double onces

[wicked citrus]

NO WAY

[slow magnet]

i got really lucky

and had 3 blue fusion insig

and 2 green ones

to move the special ones up

[uncut wigeon]

Do you tank with no defensives? Or you have the legendary drain set

[slow magnet]

i face tank and life drain to survive

765

[harsh nymph]

Hallo wales

[slow magnet]

im F2P

[harsh nymph]

Get ready for

[slow magnet]

wait its different than KR

KR it was 10g rng box

[harsh nymph]

Nahj

This box with weapon skin

That salvages into peaces

[slow magnet]

where did u find it

[harsh nymph]

From peaces i craft boxes with insignia

And it cost 50g

[slow magnet]

is it on website

[harsh nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsrWLiJMp8o

box for 10g contains cards

[slow magnet]

but do we get that this patch

im already in front of kaari vendor

ready to slam 200k in

[harsh nymph]

So. event = pay 1mil gold to get full purple insignias

[slow magnet]

Damn so everyone is gunna have full specials now

[slow magnet]

guess i can just finish this off

[harsh nymph]

YEs

Another f2p event btw

btw first ingame ivents without logs

Eh he

3m of game btw

[slow magnet]

NA

WTB ```ansi
Heroic Skill Book [Ice Rain]

i cant match

the purple ingame

rip

[jagged hull]

Looks like the mythical color

[harsh nymph]

Try #ce7eae

Or #9632b4

[slow magnet]

discord uses like

ANSI colour codes

uh

idk how to enter it

[inland cargo]

but i thought we don't get same events as kr

[inland cargo]

so the guy paid 1k gold or 20k divine gem to get only 26 boxes which may be like 4-5 special insignias lol

better off buying special insignia off market for 2k each

[pallid grotto]

gamba soul is strong..

[dusty tapir]

basic combo for FM is RMB LRM 2 right ?

why cant i cancel animation like on youtube

[candid heart]

Does it make a difference to spam 2 for purple dragonchar? Or it is ok to do a lmb rmb 2 rotation and the damage will be similar, everything here is blue book right now

[dusty tapir]

you talking with me right ? I'm using blazing beam for 2

RMB LMB 2 until F then 1 X X

before rotation I'm using C V (fire stance)

[candid heart]

Sorry, mine is a separate questions.

[dusty tapir]

mb then

[median sonnet]

looks like we gettin the new wildfire

(prolly)

[slow magnet]

what makes you say that

[median sonnet]

its in the files for the patch

tho they will prolly be changed before the maintenance ends

[slow magnet]

can you check if uh

10g rng card box

is in there

[median sonnet]

no, i dont know how to datamine this sht

im goin off whats on yast

lean already unpacked the new patch and updated yast

[slow magnet]

what else changed

i dont see crit damage veil

or uh

honey on summoner

[median sonnet]

yea some skills got broken

which is why the assumption is they will change it

[wraith oar]

yo whats best purple to get on dc build after dc?

[fleet wolf]

Dragonchar..? Jus buy a purp LMB for best value

[wraith oar]

aight ty

[candid heart]

Both Infernal blow or blazing palm are fine?

Last time I saw blazing palm is like 8k/5k?

[wraith oar]

I mostly saw it for 11

But idk if i should just get it from bp or get one more purple dc

[fleet wolf]

Char won’t get much cheaper than ~25k

Best value would be Char followed by purple Palm

[candid heart]

How many skill grandmaster point does purple book give?

[sleek sphinx]

6

[fleet wolf]

Yikes. only skill change

[wise umbra]

at least they did something about burn

but yeah considering other classes have 10+ skills in the tooltip

[slow magnet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/bladeandsoul/comments/1kwq5bv/pandas_ice_fm_guide/?share_id=DfRTYxijLZEKGap8V77pG&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

Ok who wrote this wtf

[sleek sphinx]

i dont know

[slow magnet]

theres no way this is correct right

just eyeballing the math on it

I feel like it's a waste of time figuring out how to prove that wicked twin dragons is worse than using dual dragons on ice build because thats just silly right

[fleet wolf]

You lose 2.5s of 2skill regardless with Twin, maybe a dps increase for extremely high Ping

[slow magnet]

and 2.5s of lmb and rmb

so like 3 lmbs and 4 rmbs ish

since LMB is 700ms gcd and RMB is 500ms

[fleet wolf]

More like 3LMB & 3RMB but yea..

[sleek sphinx]

dual is more better then wicked wtf

[fleet wolf]

Would consider if it's a guaranteed Crit ngl

[harsh nymph]

Nah, i give up

[sleek sphinx]

^^

[zealous coyote]

Is any of the new skill books added good or is it just more trash to pull?

[ocean forge]

yes wildfire op buy my wildfire

[rugged crypt]

wts dchar & force blast eu

[pallid grotto]

what u guys say
bb build go full bb (84gm) or 72 with inferno and wall 🤔

imma test full bb if book prices drop

[wicked citrus]

I think we were saying BB (78 gm) with just wall

No inferno

[pallid grotto]

well more wall uptime, idk if worth

[wicked citrus]

Ya we were assuming it was better without the uptime increase but no actual data to back it up

[pallid grotto]

i'll test it

[distant inlet]

Inferno and wall

so you atleast have to press some buttons

[pallid grotto]

yea thinking the same

might be boring

[carmine ermine]

Hi, looking for a price check on this new book/what it even does. Replaces your 2

Selling it eitherway

[pallid grotto]

is booged

[harsh nymph]

WTB EU

[rain crypt]

WTB
Purple book blazing palm, NA server
PM

[slow magnet]

No inferno, only wall, with legendary beam, no shock fire was what Steven used

Burn uptime by rotating bale fires with another FM

[pallid grotto]

need leg beam to make it worth i think

[knotty torrent]

Might pivot to dragonchar with my purple selector box. Any other worthwhile skills I should get?

[distant inlet]

More dragonchars

[fickle glen]

While you are at it get some dragonchars too

[knotty torrent]

Ok ty for info

[median sonnet]

dragonchar: additional damag is a good one

for char builds

personally i recommend purple deadlock as well, but some ppl be hating on it

[wraith oar]

Purple lmb?

[jagged hull]

I feel like a lot of it gets wasted

Wish it was more frequent smaller procs

(Using blue deadlock for reference)

[knotty torrent]

Is that the focus regen one?

[jagged hull]

Yeah

[median sonnet]

ye you gotta play around it so it doesn't get wasted

[wild pawn]

purple shock fire, really saves your ass focus wise

[late coral]

WTS Purple ICE RAIN, FORCE BLAST, BLAZING PALM

[wicked citrus]

im so confused

did steven change his ign and just give it to a new char

[formal nexus]

he swapped off this dogshit class

[late coral]

WTS PURPLE ICE RAIN EU

[slow magnet]

I just wasted my gems

but its for science

[formal nexus]

명중 시 파음지, 동파 재사용 시간 1초 감소
명중 시 빙하장, 한빙면장 재사용시간 1초 감소
reduces the cooldown of some ice skills, idk which

[formal nexus]

Critical hit damage increases by 10% for 15 seconds
Divine Veil moves with the caster

[slow magnet]

i fked up

it doesnt work i think

idk whats

[slow magnet]

its showing locked on my bar

i have the book on

its not locked

if i take the accessory off

it shows normal veil there

so the skill is not locked

[formal nexus]

have to wait for them to fix it then

[knotty torrent]

Skills broken? 😔

[formal nexus]

become a support fm

[nova radish]

Anyone can explain me the difference for ice rain build - blazing beam build ?

[slow magnet]

its self buff only

[late coral]

WTS Purple ICE RAIN

[slow magnet]

not for party members

[jagged hull]

Wait really 💀

[formal nexus]

oh it doesn't have that party member line

what a joke

[slow magnet]

its just a version of blazing wall that does no damage tbh

same buff and duration basically

[formal nexus]

with 1 min c/d

[jagged hull]

Deadlock is the real support fm skill

[slow magnet]

deadlock so bad

[jagged hull]

Dont make me tag alex 😔

[slow magnet]

its just a knockoff version of summoner cat Q

which is just worse

[jagged hull]

You cant compete with the cat

[formal nexus]

so all 5 new skills are trash right?

[slow magnet]

I mean i cannot verify this

because i cannot use the skill

[harsh nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-bryan-cranston-heisenberg-you-are-goddamn-right-gif-4508847

[slow magnet]

it doesnt look that good

but i am willing to try it

when they make the button work

[fleet wolf]

bro is rich by nature.

[echo oasis]

he IS kamisama

@little horizon dont play ice rain 😭

that ping is cooked

[surreal nymph]

WTS lot of weird fm gear eu moonwater
true poh rin n true tae earing, true old belt, awakened hae glove, true tiger braclet with crit/crit dmg, st 7 ice soul ice badge, st 7 mystic ice badge, ice rains, dual dragons, purple devour thingie n what not

[fickle glen]

rain gang

[slow magnet]

WHERE IS THIS

I CANT SEE THEM

[fickle glen]

sounds like

freedom issue

[surreal nymph]

sry just destoring marked

dont mind me

is moonwater eu

is me im sry

https://tenor.com/view/kyaru-anime-hide-peek-gif-24238206

[radiant dagger]

sell you soul how much ?

[surreal nymph]

is sold sry

sold it for 5k

[radiant dagger]

[surreal nymph]

buy my ring Help

[fickle glen]

bro got undercut

[surreal nymph]

the one with 3 mantra

hehe

[fickle glen]

LMAOOOOOOOOO

[surreal nymph]

also me

[radiant dagger]

[harsh nymph]

mb anyone have ahk config for ice fm?

[fickle glen]

undercuts himself

gaming

[surreal nymph]

is the best

told ya is me destorying marked

200 iq

better make neo marked go down with me

[surreal nymph]

see

is cute

3 mantra Help

https://tenor.com/view/anya-forger-gif-14135670661561260102

[radiant dagger]

idk

Just go gamble for leg ice rain

[surreal nymph]

lmaoo

[harsh nymph]

9 attempts 0 boxes

So, I gave up

Lf ahk ice force macro

[surreal nymph]

Dont recall but is either rt2 or like 2rt

Guess both works

[fickle glen]

2tr

[surreal nymph]

Or that

Everything works

[fickle glen]

honestly!

[surreal nymph]

Just have the gear

[fickle glen]

2trzx1

👍

[surreal nymph]

Narh man

That’s too lazy

[harsh nymph]

I use my mouse software and i think this is sucks

Pulsar btw

[fickle glen]

eh its lazy for new dungeons ig

since you need to move

but bsh was just dummy

[surreal nymph]

I guess true

Range got ok life in new dungoun

Just suck when u get agro man

[ocean forge]

Why would you sell ice rains

Just fuse 5 of them into legendary?????

🙄

[hasty sundial]

WTB purple blazing palm, purple dual dragons NA, PMO

[surreal nymph]

Bc I quit

[ocean forge]

😔

[nova radish]

This is ice o fire?

[fickle glen]

that is "I am going to sleep while farming boss" macro

its ice and would not recommend unless you are playing genshin on phone while farming

[nova radish]

And can u help me to make for blazing beam ? Please 😫

[fickle glen]

2rt

[nova radish]

Easy 😂

[lyric stump]

how does this skill work in pvp?

[fickle glen]

if you hit it while enemy is blocking

they aint blocking anymore

[fickle glen]

yeah use meteor/wall, inferno and 1 manual

[lyric stump]

and how can i know if they blocking ?

[fickle glen]

they

are literally blocking

what

[nova radish]

Thx

[fickle glen]

like

[lyric stump]

does resist attacks also mean he using block skill ?

[fickle glen]

no kfm is just a gay class that dodges attacks

thats different

[nova radish]

Sec? 0.01 for all ?

[lyric stump]

then its useless kek

[fickle glen]

that should depend on your ping

[lyric stump]

what other skill good for pvp?

[nova radish]

I play with 40-50 ms/ 110 fps

[lyric stump]

all I do is pew pew there

[fickle glen]

this is block of bm for example

annoying af to see from that pov

but eh

[fickle glen]

try .1 ig

[lyric stump]

its just annoying fighting them in general

[fickle glen]

not the most exp person here with macros

[fickle glen]

just

ice rain bms

and run away from kfms

[nova radish]

I never try is my first time 😂

[lyric stump]

I'm always sleeping when i fight them

beam build

[fickle glen]

you

dont click f8

with beam

👍

[fickle glen]

what could go wrong

yolo tbh

[lyric stump]

[carmine ermine]

Looking to sell this new book (NA), replaces your 2

[carmine ermine]

Yeah it isn't really clear but I'm assuming itll be fixed within a week or so

[formal nexus]

i assume it's a pvp skill

does less damage than dragonchar daze

half the damage of the base skill but twice as fast

[jagged hull]

Was it confirmed to have a faster cast

[formal nexus]

that's what it shows on yast

[prisma quartz]

From what I see on Yast, that new dragonchar skill doesn't need to get boosted, it's as fast as blue dragonchar (meaning slower than purple char at max speed)
Only consumes 1 focus and reduces the cd of some skills, I don't know which yet
Seems to be pvp oriented 🤔

[terse fiber]

Lul finally have some use for purple wildfire i got from bound chests xD

just need to use shockfire for inferno cd. Otherwise its balefire/wildfire

[jagged hull]

I saw someone use the Inferno that naturally has no cast time

Which I happen to have as bound

🤔

Still need shockfire myself for focus on char though

[terse fiber]

Tbh doesnt sound too bad considering its now more of a badge trigger than damage skill

[jagged hull]

Though I dont even use that badge lol

[terse fiber]

micromanaging purple palm eating stacks to always keep dual dragons for F>1 once X is ready is kinda annoying

But tbh change for wildfire is a big W

for burn uptime

[jagged hull]

Just wish it wasnt limited to the purple version

[terse fiber]

I was lucky enough to get it from bound ones so it finally has some use for me. But its not too expensive

[echo oasis]

u dont need shockfire for char

[terse fiber]

like 3-4k

[jagged hull]

No I definetly still run out of focus

[terse fiber]

What badge are u running on char Jackie?

[echo oasis]

im running ice but

all my char friends running dual dragons

[terse fiber]

gcd on F skills is kinda wack

if it would be at least 500ms and not 1000ms

[echo oasis]

yea it is

[terse fiber]

Do they run purple DD then?

to also keep bleed

[echo oasis]

ya

bleed is improtant

the badge is mainly for the focus regen tho

[wraith oar]

Dragonchar fms what mystic badge do you all use?

[ocean forge]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-wat-wut-gif-16165693567743102551

[glacial pine]

WTB Purple "Wicked Twin Dragon" EU 🔥 ❄️
WTB Virtuous Mystic Badge Dragonblaze, Dragonfrost

[median sonnet]

the goat build

[median sonnet]

dual dragons one

seems better

[glacial pine]

just a experimentation

[median sonnet]

thats what they all say

[jagged hull]

Did you read too many reddit posts

[glacial pine]

no find this

why ?

[glacial pine]

If you have a link 🙏

[jagged hull]

Its a recent post on the "bladeandsoul" subreddit if you want to look for it

Dont recommend you do

[noble bison]

wtb DRAGONCHAR purple eu

[late coral]

WTS ICE RAIN PURPLE EU

[jagged hull]

@glacial pine just look through the newest posts

[glacial pine]

don't find

[molten flint]

whats the market rate for dragon char purple in NA/Eu now?

tw just went from 40 to 20 😄

[radiant dagger]

WTS EU

[late coral]

WTS ICE RAIN PURPLE EU

[faint wind]

Guys is dragonchar build with a purple blazing palm is good?

[rain crypt]

WTB NA Server PM

[fickle glen]

palm is always good if you have braincells to use it

[hasty sundial]

WTB purple wildfire NA, PMO

[faint wind]

Okay then, thanks

[candid heart]

I think unless u have double burn without using skill 1? As u hardly can trigger burn from skill 1 and use fiend fire. Blazing palm detonate ember at stack 5.

[harsh nymph]

WTS EU

[karmic scaffold]

hi!!
Guys, good evening, does anyone have an ahk for an ice build, high ping?

[fervent pond]

based, i give this guy a pass

kick a random vs gf mad

[formal nexus]

looks like it reduces cd of frost tornado and the aoe ice prison

sell it to mei liang i dont think anyone else will use it

[carmine ermine]

Are they in NA? I still have it just dont know what its worth really

[brittle junco]

Who have the new blue ice weapon skin from f10 can i see it please, before i buy it

Post a picture for it or something

[faint wind]

WTS EU

[carmine ermine]

Selling Heatwave Expansion purple book, New skill that replaces your 2 (NA)

[cosmic spindle]

WTB purple blazing beam NA server

[wraith oar]

Is purple fiend fire worth buying?

[jagged hull]

Kinda

You dont really see it on the top FMs, so its not a book you would expect to keep forever

[wraith oar]

I got 20 gm on dragon char have only purple dragon char and purple impact whats best to get from bp blazing palm or another purple dc cuz not sure will 2 more gm make diff?

[jagged hull]

purple adds +4gm over blue

Palm would add (significantly) more damage

But using it on char and saving up for palm would be the better strategy long term

Assuming char stays more expensive than palm ofc.

[wraith oar]

I see thank you

[jagged hull]

But yeah, idk

I'm at a similar point and not sure if I'll end up getting purple fiend fire at some point

If you're using wall/meteor badge its probably more appealing I guess

[wraith oar]

Yea same, am not sure how much dps can purple palm gives ik it fucks other fms, but i do mostly clan runs

[jagged hull]

Its like 10%

More if theres other FMs without it

[wraith oar]

Countig i am only fm in runs it maybe worth

Idk

[median sonnet]

it gives a lot of dmg

way more than another purple char

def worth it

[cosmic spindle]

prior to purple it did 10% of my toptal dps with ice rain build, after purple it went to 20% total dps

[jagged hull]

That sounds unlikely

Unless youre only looking at runs with other fire FMs

[cosmic spindle]

take my info as you want but thats the dps difference for me

[jagged hull]

Hmm I see it on the logs website

I guess char is a higher % of dps than ice rain

So naturally the other skills are lower

[radiant dagger]

not worth

[wraith oar]

Which one

[radiant dagger]

1

[wraith oar]

I see wy think bout purple palm?

[pallid grotto]

just use wildfire..

[wraith oar]

Wildfire instead?

[pallid grotto]

9s cd 10s burn

[wraith oar]

I see thats a option aswell i guess

But wildfire better to buy then open in bp feels like waste right

[pallid grotto]

yes ofc

bp u go for main dps skills only

[plucky sphinx]

I have 220ms is good play dragon char ?

[slow magnet]

You should probably play beam with 220ms

[ocean forge]

Or a different game

[zenith moss]

Thinking of making FM alt for fun, how is Junghado (and solo content in general) with FM? Is having little CC a problem? Is being ranged useful?

(ofc with high gear everything is faceroll)

[jagged hull]

FM is probably the worst class for alt Junghado

What else did you mean with solo content?

I would say in general being ranged is very convenient

[slow magnet]

You trade off being ranged with doing worse damage than other classes on similar gear

Apart from summoner

Especially on a budget build for an alt

[jagged hull]

I was going to say, is FM actually that bad damage wise

But then I started counting the broken classes

[slow magnet]

I can barely out damage melee classes who are way less geared than me

[jagged hull]

Honestly

I could see that being true at like the absolute top

[slow magnet]

Well, good players for those classes that are maintaining really high damage uptime during the fights

[jagged hull]

But I havent really been getting that impression for like regular up to bsh2

[slow magnet]

https://beans.azuradara.dev

other than the really boosted 61k fm parse that was set up to hit a high parse

[zenith moss]

Other mushin floors, soloing dungeons, soloing Wheel bosses (they are usually not hard but certainly more fun for some)...

[slow magnet]

Look at hae mujin leaderboard

You are gunna scroll to page 3 before you see FMs

[jagged hull]

help 😎

Where's tsk when you need him

[zenith moss]

I thought FM only had dps problems on release but I guess i heard wrong

[jagged hull]

Which dungeons are you looking to solo?

[slow magnet]

Its not a dps problem since you are ranged and can easily maintain 100% damage uptime

[jagged hull]

Not having a block and not having a decent life drain set makes actually soloing stuff tricky

[slow magnet]

But good melee players that know fights well and can also maintain damage uptime will out damage you on same gear

[jagged hull]

But depends on the content ofcourse

[jagged hull]

Lots of BMs and KFMs

My low gear kfm alt does feel broken for its gear

[slow magnet]

KFM gets hella boosted crit

[jagged hull]

Until the boss moves though 💀

[slow magnet]

Helps a lot for higher level dungeons

[jagged hull]

Oh the joy of random people blue dungeons

Yeah not having weapon stacks makes crit buffs kinda crazy

[slow magnet]

All the melee classes have crit rate buffs and FM doesn't have any

I have way more crit stat than the melee in my party but I crit much less

[slow magnet]

This is tree boss, I have like 5380 crit stat and the other players have between 3500-4000ish

Wanna guess which one the KFM is lol

[jagged hull]

Aya moment

[slow magnet]

And if you crit more you get evades less too because crits can't be evaded

[jagged hull]

Makes you wonder why the new veil is crit dmg% instead of crit%

[jagged hull]

So what you're saying is

Throw out all accuracy

[slow magnet]

10% crit damage very meh

[jagged hull]

That way you crit 2/3 of the times

[slow magnet]

No because then you miss so much that you're cooked

That wouldn't help

[slow magnet]

If you have 100% crit rate you won't get any evades because the crit check bypasses evade check in this game

[jagged hull]

Yeah

(Can stuff that cant crit still miss?)

[slow magnet]

Like?

The soul core can't miss

[jagged hull]

Additional damage not-soul badge

If I remember correctly from live that doesnt crit

[slow magnet]

Those are dependent on the attack that is triggering them to hit

[jagged hull]

I guess life drain never crits and never misses?

[slow magnet]

Life drain only procs on crit

The card sets and charms are life drain on critical hit

[jagged hull]

Yeah I mean the number doesnt increase

But yeah theyre always connected to a crit

[slow magnet]

There's no seperate evade check for those procs

If they proc, they will deal the damage

[slow magnet]

Life drain also isn't affected by defense or damage reduction

It'll do the listed damage.

[jagged hull]

Now if only I had a good set

I somehow opened 2/3 of the new mid-300s life drain set from the event purple boxes lol

[slow magnet]

Oh I didn't even realize there was a new life drain set

I just gamble every purple that enters my inventory basically

[jagged hull]

3 purple cards from Lab is rough

[slow magnet]

765 2 set is better anyway

[jagged hull]

Somehow I dont think im getting that one anytime soon

[candid heart]

What is a dragon char final build look like? Someone says fiend fire is not necessary? Is it because the damage contribution is too little?
My thought is blazing palm, frozen palm, wildfire, bale, meteor, ice snap, with some support like veil and ice sheath and no skill 1

[jagged hull]

Depends on your gear

Veil and ice sheath have pretty limited usecases (so you could put them on a secondary accessory you swap in for poha+chef)

[frank canopy]

WTB purple dragonchar eu

[jagged hull]

If you still need Shock Fire for focus then Fiend Fire is still worth running

Blazing Wall (purple only) becomes better at some point

[candid heart]

Than meteor shower?! I have purple blazing wall somehow

[jagged hull]

Yeah

More annoying to use

But its stronger

[candid heart]

I don’t really need shock fire, if I use meteor shower

[jagged hull]

Meteor doesnt really make too much of a different focus wise

[candid heart]

Oh right, it only gain net 3 focus

How should I set up my gear for alternate utility?

[jagged hull]

wdym

[candid heart]

Like having a belt equip with veil/sheath/kd

[jagged hull]

Oh in place of a bunch of blue chars

[candid heart]

Then swap it with a main belt with 3 dragon char.

[jagged hull]

I assume thats what you have anyway

[candid heart]

I don’t really have a second set yet.

[jagged hull]

The specific accessory doesnt really matter

Just whats convenient to you

[candid heart]

Like sheath only necessary in poh and chef first boss right? And veil for chef first boss

[jagged hull]

Yeah

Though you can just use the non-skillbook veil since you dont move on chef first boss

[slow magnet]

you dont need veil for chef first boos yeah like Salacia said

you can just channel the veil

you cant attack during that phase anyway

you dont really need sheath for chef first boss either

you can just pull the levers on the side to freeze the team

that's the intended mechanic that the sheath is bypassing

[hasty sundial]

WTB purple wildfire NA, pmo

[fickle glen]

just tab ice for it

5head

[knotty torrent]

Usually other class will block it anyway like sum or bd

[candid heart]

Switched to blazing wall now dps on dummy went up 3k, 16 to~19k

[harsh nymph]

A little bit flex

[wanton root]

WTB NA CD/CR or CD/ACC Legendary Gloves and Bracelets Paying well

[naive idol]

@pallid grotto ty for continuing the tests on beam build, I appreciate you very much

[unkempt horizon]

Starting to think I made a mistake investing so heavily into Ice rain. Char seems much stronger

[slow magnet]

not too late to sell it and re roll

[unkempt horizon]

Selling 9 Purple Ice Rains may take a while

[naive idol]

Char does have the perk of being spammable as long as you have focus

@unkempt horizon Would you still use Imitation with Char though?

[unkempt horizon]

No, sadly. People laugh about it, but using Force Blast does not increase my DPS at all, and the spammable block is amazing for tanking, which I usually wind up doing

[naive idol]

This is the way

Makes everyone's life a lot easier too if you tank with it

so it's an overall win

[unkempt horizon]

I was taught a LONG time ago that Fms who do not tank to a spot on the ground (keep the boss still) are the bane of melee everywhere

[naive idol]

I was kinda raised the same way as an FM

[unkempt horizon]

Back in 2016, it was mandatory

[naive idol]

Except I took it a step further and learned how to tank Blackwyrm in the process

[unkempt horizon]

Of course, BnS had threat skills back then

I remember Blackwyrm. Back then I was part of Rebirth, so never really had to tank

[slow magnet]

ill buy 1 more

[naive idol]

It's a piece of work with some attacks being unblockable

[unkempt horizon]

I am not actually selling. Even if I switch to char, I will keep all my Ice Rains for the eventuall Legendary. Not like the money is an issue

[naive idol]

I might consider picking up ice rain just so that I can go tank things

But it'll be awhile before prices drop to my available income

[hasty sundial]

WTB purple massive snowball NA, pmo

[fleet wolf]

78 Lego Beams sus weak?

[candid heart]

What is that massive ball that fm charge by holding the up straight? Is that massive snowball?

Because it seems like it have cast time

[fleet wolf]

Chi Bomb, available for use w Shadow Grasp book.

[pallid grotto]

[cosmic spindle]

WTB purple blazing beam x3 and wildfire NA

[jolly oriole]

blazing beam vs char dmg %? like how much less dmg is bb?

[pallid grotto]

Char is better if u manage to handle ur focus well & low ping with a good macro

[ocean forge]

☝️ 🤓

Play what you like enjoyer

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[pallid grotto]

If u get to tank and ur not used/ugly boss rota then bb is defo easier & might end up doing same dps in actual fight

It's all about practice
% wise ppl say 10-20% range better but no final numbers cause no testing with exact same gear & ping were done

[cosmic spindle]

char does more damage but you can stack bb books a lot cheaper to make up that damage and its easier to play

[jolly oriole]

oki tyty. ive just gotten bored of ice so was trying to decide what to get with purple selector

[pallid grotto]

Honestly try out what u enjoy, dc for trihards/sweaty gaming with skill ceiling, bb for chill & consistency with multiple build variations

[pallid grotto]

Pretty much what i do, lmao

[jolly oriole]

wish we had a training room like in live where u oculd test the builds.

[pallid grotto]

I tank mostly so qol is a thing

Book system prevents that, else i would've done it
Actual test way to expensive