So ultimately cleave mystic better?
#Destroyer
upbeat jungle
idk if it matters but i play with no macro and with 17ms
also cleave might pass MC with galeforce
upbeat jungle
galeforce buffs cleaves dmg
timid fossil
I know but its been worse even b4 the change
the ap buff doesnt seem to be that good either
timid fossil
ouch dont hurt ur gold
odd siren
Its good to have it back 
also galeforce additiona ldamage for cleave is nice, but to anicancel galeforce is a pain
timid fossil
yea I would need to macro it cuz if I skip my cleave im gonna be really mad
and Im not using one so thats a no for me
odd siren
Mm.. only person that I helped me with that was des and he quit
timid fossil
you two can get into a group though
late saddle
i have a bound purple gale
much appreciated if u could shed some light on "frenzy state"
if its savior of galeforce or keep locked :P
odd siren
Frenzy is unlocked with other skills too though
Added Frenzy effect that deals 'additional damage equal to 30% of Attack Power on hit of opponent' when Destroyer uses certain skill.
upbeat jungle
i think it shows over MC anyways
late saddle
with insane focus rec on purp ember maybe time to reroll focus mantras
so whos the madman that will go DPS 4
or woman
Purpelo Ram Works! additional cast indeed
odd siren
Purpelo Ram Works! additional cast indeed
mm can you prolong the 2nd cast? or dose it have to be used right away?
Would be nice to keep for extension
odd siren
Sure, just finishing blue train. On spooder then brightruin
late saddle
Has to be used within 4s
upbeat jungle
gotcha np
upbeat jungle
triple stun into extend lmao
odd siren
Ram can prolong CC, so rather use it for that
Blitz can too, but ram has iframe utility
timid fossil
probably gets on cd immediately if you use another skill aswell
late saddle
Yea blitz extend sound appealing but not worth the investing the slot into
Cause you can just use a dps gm instead
And now with double ram it goes out of the window
odd siren
Yeah. Reason why I moved towards ram over blitz too
upbeat jungle
not sure
open veldt
@Mirae how many gm do you have on mighty cleave? 31% dps increase is insane
odd siren
0
open veldt
Wonder what 20gm on mighty cleave will do
odd siren
Mm.. would need to find out where to slot in 4 books if i plan to
sour snow
ye it is, im running it now, cos at this point, u dont need focus recovery
unles u run with plebs who need it
but otherwise no
tight ferry
Ive been running def reduction grab in all our lab clears too. Even before this update. Its very useful to grab before boss goes into a phase just to push a bit more dps.
And focus recovery definitely not needed anywhere unless yea u running with undergeared ppl
odd siren
Guess need to find a def reduce grab
cosmic olive
terse cairn
WTB Siren axe CD/CR Soulcore slot/ 3 mantra slot will pay good pm me.
shadow jolt
WTB Purple skill book eradicate pm me (EU)
gaunt seal
wtb 20k Eradicate - NA
terse cairn
WTB Siren axe CD/CR Soulcore slot/ 3 mantra slot will pay good pm me.
shadow jolt
wtb 20k Eradicate - NA
wtf 20K on NA server?
tight ferry
@distant valve rest in peace soldier
distant valve
<@309736823025041408> rest in peace soldier
ahahaha ty man
wheat tartan
Just gimme ur account @tight ferry I’ll take good care of it 
timid fossil
WTS EU - Max rolls
timid fossil
WTS EU - Max rolls
this aswell
timid fossil
this aswell
^
upbeat jungle
@timid fossil you quitting aswell?
upbeat jungle
O sheesh
shadow jolt
WTB Purple skill book eradicate pm me (EU)
terse cairn
sooo, WTB Siren axe CD/CR Soulcore slot/ 3 mantra slot will pay good pm me. 
tight ferry
I can sell you my CD/CR timestream axe, it also has a soulcore slot 
late saddle
might aswell tbf
terse cairn
I can sell you my CD/CR timestream axe, it also has a soulcore slot <:proud:1366...
50 k xD
wheat tartan
Tree fiddy
tight ferry
Who of u is gonna fetch me a purple mcleave
So i can go get r1 wb with earth and then uninstall
odd siren
NA or EU?
tight ferry
Have you ever seen my name on the north american server king
umbral viper
why is mighty cleave here with a 2s cooldown, is this another bug?
tight ferry
This is not a bug this is bns Neo amazing design (cancer)
wheat tartan
So i can go get r1 wb with earth and then uninstall
Dont uninstall 😦
terse cairn
WTB Siren axe CD/CR Soulcore slot/ 3 mantra slot will pay good pm me
brisk oar
wtb explosive rage enchanced purple dm for price
tepid mason
WTB Siren AXE CR/CD + soulcoreslot pm Moonwater
naive eagle
So should we stack mc instead of cleave then or both? 
upbeat epoch
WTB - EU (PM me)
terse cairn
WTB Siren axe CD/CR Soulcore slot/ 3 mantra slot will pay good pm me
whole ridge
WTB Cobalt hair moonwater plains eu
tepid mason
WTB Siren AXE CR/CD + soulcoreslot pm Moonwater
snow iron
WTS purple exe EU
terse cairn
WTB Siren axe CD/CR Soulcore slot/ 3 mantra slot will pay good pm me
tepid mason
WTB Siren/ Hexwood AXE CR/CD + soulcoreslot pm Moonwater
timid fossil
WTS EU https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1345505783017897985/1380243312534884572/image.png?ex=68452581&is=6843d401&hm=535c94a9b88d2a33b8985686d1dc9f7a6ab47b15b5655e62f88814db9fcb3ac9& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1345505783017897985/1380244311115043008/image.png?ex=6845266f&is=6843d4ef&hm=314cf9a39e5047e2cbd3e2dad784e36e909f3181620b842f1bd1f6e35cc64be7& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1345505783017897985/1380244882215538809/image.png?ex=684526f7&is=6843d577&hm=d0c4cd660e5bdfed2cd4f320f42c6a8514b9086371a8391c3dc92630a79162b9&
terse cairn
WTB Siren axe CD/CR Soulcore slot/ 3 mantra slot will pay good eu server pm me
tight ferry
@timid fossil have u been pumping with the mcleave purp
timid fossil
<@236573369934413826> have u been pumping with the mcleave purp
I think with legy cleave and 60gm its joever
but then again idk how close it can go compared to your prime dps
tight ferry
bigg
timid fossil
atleast something that the koreans were right about 😄
tight ferry
gems at poverty price king go gamble a leg cleave and get some gms
timid fossil
Saw it, I wonder why they're so low probably no1 buying any for 5 or 6 anymore
but I plan on staying f2p, went pretty good so far
especially when none of the destros would buy my gear if I decide to quit hahahah
tight ferry
yeahhhhh i respect it
how long are those wb fights
i assume its like 1-2mins longer nowadays
timid fossil
hard to say cuz servers are really bad rn
but since people returned and new people started cuz of steam, the difference might be smaller than you think
Moonwater destrocount went from 30 to 20 in a month
tepid mason
WTB Siren/ Hexwood AXE CR/CD + soulcoreslot pm Moonwater
tight ferry
but since people returned and new people started cuz of steam, the difference mi...
Yeah ofcc
Well I peaked around 50k hae mujin but I never did any specific parsing run to optimize everything, probably 52k 53k with some crazy pump. After hae mujin i cant speak, i mainly did lab in which u cant measure dps since i grab a lot to not take aggro, and barely did hexwood so cant really give an average dps amount
So u might be ahead of that now no idea
Worldboss not a good way to measure dps since time is involved
But i honestly dont think mighty cleave build can pass execute build in dps, not if both are properly played and on equal gear
You also have to take into account that a leg cleave for mcleave build is equal to a leg execute on execute build. Leg execute is an easy 30% dps increase for execute build, if not more
Its a shame
timid fossil
So u might be ahead of that now no idea
hell nah with a summ I do 35k at best
tight ferry
Ah
timid fossil
I've got bleeding though and since the latest dungeons are 4man and almost no1 having constant bleed, thats something atleast
tight ferry
Well thats interesting
I did hae mujin today cus i was bored and was doing 42k
Does this mean i rob top 1 wb still
I will try this tomorrow (maybe) if i feel like logging in (i wont)
timid fossil
im still at 940 ap though, still some space for improving my gear
tight ferry
Yeahh get your hexwood
timid fossil
idk if I wanna upgrade my cdmg acc weap
2 mantras only aswell (pvp soulcore)
but since 2 people are actively looking for a good weapon I might aswell
timid fossil
But i honestly dont think mighty cleave build can pass execute build in dps, not...
yea pure dps-wise execute should be ahead if you play it right, no offense but people don't seem to play clean at wb's
terse cairn
Stats also quite good
timid fossil
Does this mean i rob top 1 wb still
probably, but its not gonna be a huge gap like usual
tight ferry
Yeah ofc
Im just unmotivated to log in atm so maybe in a month or so when new content is on the horizon i pop in again
timid fossil
I dropped cd cr siren axe today with soulcore
unlucky, still some dgs
tight ferry
Really wanna try purple mcleave build too but im too lazy to set it up
Zzzzzz game design where u have to gamble to try another build 💯
timid fossil
yea dont bother I think today was the first time we got one listed, maybe it wasnt even eu
sm1 typed it atleast
just make an alt destro and queue 6v6 in silver 😄
cant get matches otherwise
tight ferry
Yea my des is diamond its never gonna get a game
But i play 6v6 on live bns now anyways so my thirst for this game is kinda sated
timid fossil
I see, I've got asked to join BNSPVP to game abit there, but don't have much time for that and if I quit I doubt there will be motivation 4me aswell
too many new classes in live, my pvp gear is too outdated aswell
terse cairn
WTB Siren axe CD/CR Soulcore slot/ 3 mantra slot will pay good pm me eu server
tight ferry
I see, I've got asked to join BNSPVP to game abit there, but don't have much tim...
Its good. Ive actively played pvp there when it was alive. Sadly kinda dead now. 😔
There used to be weekly pvp tournaments….. neo ruined it
late saddle
timid fossil
Its good. Ive actively played pvp there when it was alive. Sadly kinda dead now....
lets pray for eos 📉
neo ofc
tight ferry
terse cairn
WTB Siren axe CD/CR Soulcore slot/ 3 mantra slot will pay good pm me eu server
strange crow
NA WTB] any Hexwood axe or Hexwood single crit. Just cheap one please.
silent radish
WTB Purple Eradicate EU
timid fossil
Yea my des is diamond its never gonna get a game
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1342571639753412730/1381373130508865587/image.png?ex=6847477a&is=6845f5fa&hm=95fac6137afb94dce00d59a7d795ee1d323cba81a92b90080c08ee9d43f1b9b2& 2hrs (2nd half was even duoq) and 0 games
and im not diamond yet
time to ask some fishbelly pub bronzes for duoq
tight ferry
what a game design, no season to reset rank btw! Good one ncsoft
timid fossil
abusing low elo duoq is the only way I think
amber hedge
WTB NA
mystic badge + blue gubong pmo
tight ferry
abusing low elo duoq is the only way I think
Tbh when i hit diamond i kinda accepted i wont ever get to do my weekly anymore. “Luckily” the rewards are garbage anyways and theres no reason to run bg. Would be different if it was actually fun, but ofc they had to make rng resists a stat like ok bro what an insane design
Whoever pitched that idea surely doesnt have a disease in the brain
On top of that so many interactions that are incorrect now
Like the way pulls work on spinners
Makes no sense
Des daze 1 being like 3m instead of 8m aoe? XD
timid fossil
Des daze 1 being like 3m instead of 8m aoe? XD
ikr Im just using it cuz z pull is buggy
so I can somehow catch a running target or get them out of combat
robust dock
WTB Cleave speed inc EU Cinderlands
late saddle
k
icy dove
WTB cleave speed Eu
surreal glen
tight ferry
Did they fix it with the emergency maint or is neo still cooked
late saddle
not sure the "maint" did anything
tight ferry
Sick
Neo was already bleeding playerbase hard, but i genuinely think its over now unless ncwest Really cooks something for the first time in their life after jonathan and justin left
waxen turtle
over 2~3mil gems were generated with steam 🙂
tight ferry
Im sure even more than that, significantly more
waxen turtle
That's the number i've heard, but yeah probably more.
It was up for a few days, so ppl could've made 10x that np.
tight ferry
I was tracking g2g prices and it went from 6 to 4 on friday, since then only downwards
I am so glad i got out of this on thursday
And yeah any whale that still wants to play neo bought minimum 1mil
tight ferry
Well if we look at live bns incidents of similar scale they banned/punished those who were able to be tracked
Anyone thats smart just bought 1mil gems with an alt acc, mailed it to another alt by gifting outfits
And will send it to main when this is all over
tight ferry
I was considering it but then remembered i quit cus the game is bad not because its expensive
sour snow
future investment
waxen turtle
If you transfer from like 20 accounts to 1 abusing steam refund thing. Then do couple more transfers to another accounts via market and you should be safe
sour snow
buy cheap sell for more
ah so u were just doing drawback, but gems stayed
LMAOOOO
epic
who would have guessed https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/994260638178222100.webp?size=48&name=clueless
seems like for sure not ncsoft
tight ferry
During bamboo village incident in bns live they didnt remove any pet pods from mail, just the ones from ppls inventory 👍
waxen turtle
If you play EU, you will at least be able to play RU when it comes out. At least support won't be as ass 😄
At best they might fix progression with events.
NA is ccompletely cooked tho
tight ferry
Had i waited 1 more day i wouldve sold my stuff for €1000 instead of 4k
waxen turtle
ah so u were just doing drawback, but gems stayed
Yea, classic mobile gaming abuse, from back in the day 
tight ferry
What a blessing
late saddle
lolvid in shambles
not like the hagakure guys care
they prob are the ones with 5 mil gems each
never seen every single member so decked out full legendry
waxen turtle
Had i waited 1 more day i wouldve sold my stuff for €1000 instead of 4k
Lucky you. I bet 4k is like half of what you spent on a game.
waxen turtle
🤔 Dang that's nice
tight ferry
My purchased gems were at €5/1k but sold at €6/1k
So that was already a big help
legendary erad bought for 70k sold for 100k, timestream stones bought for 7-10k/stone sold for 12.5k/stone mostly
Was pretty good
waxen turtle
So you can call your experience F2P then
tight ferry
If they can just rollback server now 1 week
waxen turtle
tight ferry
I have all my gear back 😎
waxen turtle
Naaaaah, that would be too crazy even for them.
tight ferry
Hahahah true
timid fossil
quit angle tbh
why did I stay f2p and save up 60k dgs if they are worth 100€ now
if they wont rollback after maintenance its gonna be time to play some actual games
opal zinc
It's alot more than a couple mill I had a couple people just straight up tell me they bought 700-900k+ with one swipe.
late saddle
the workaround loophole where u can write here while muted
p much sums up perfectly everything at ncosft
waxen turtle
If only there was a way to convert all my cookies from cookie clicker.
tight ferry
Join the perma mute club bro
timid fossil
Join the perma mute club bro
XD
Ive heared this guy is sus, can sm1 confirm
gotta take preparations
wheat tartan
Ive heared this guy is sus, can sm1 confirm
Scammed a friend of mine 😮
timid fossil
yea heared the same from sm1 that had contact with him
wheat tartan
Rip, lost my FM friend because of him :’)
late saddle
what happened
upbeat jungle
If any quitting destroyers on NA wants to sell anything once marketplace is back up hmu! Lol
gaunt seal
🤡
late saddle
jokes on u market ban, i usually cant sell anything for a month kek
tight ferry
vast depot
If any des quittin on NA give me your book thanks
upbeat jungle
me first pls
tight ferry
Once flowing with knowledge and trade. This city has been abandoned. The only thing you may see are bns addicts and homeless beggars. What a painful sight.
late saddle
cant even spam my WTS gear anymore for a week
if they ban rmters its insta -75% playerbase too
timid fossil
yesterday was the first time I just closed the game without minmaxing daily and blessing, just purple train, daily challenge and faction no tree runs no cc multis didnt even touch my blade
Im so turned off
late saddle
i actually minmaxed everything and lvld and used bless of that too yday cause nothing else to do
noice.
timid fossil
ye tbh I might just do wb and purple train on my main until next week
Im pretty sure they wont satisfy me with their cleansing strat
so Im not wasting too much time
wheat tartan
I have gotten around 100k exp the last week
kek
Aint getting 56 with this speed lol
tight ferry
Its cause its kinda over. I swiped a ton of money and i wasnt even upset that i had to swipe more. But i just finally realized i was swiping to do trash content, no iq needed (maybe a slight amount for lv55 in lab but still not much), no good outlook on future content (shadowmoor is braindead, silverfrost still has to be released in kr) so thats like 4-5months with literally nothing to do for us
And all the issues we have
Ddos main one for moonwater
Incompetent company
And now everyone is quitting left and right
Not sure how anyone can feel like sticking around much longer
sour snow
steam release will save the game 😭 😭 😭 😭 🙏
tight ferry
Yeah like
How incompetent is ncwest
To release steam on a random wednesday with no content
sour snow
yeh
tight ferry
Instantly unlock all the way till mpp3
sour snow
xDDDD
tight ferry
Like… what is that
tight ferry
Like
sour snow
ye idk, its like
tight ferry
The whole playerbase assumed it was gonna be on wl release. That should tell ncwest that maybe it should be on wl release. With the WL catchup event.
sour snow
nca is just, they just ctrl c ctrl v shiit from KR
and that would be about it
not a single thought
tight ferry
Yeah its a shame
And on top of that
I can just buy an acc for €400 €500 on live, be max gear, and do endgame dungeons with actual mechanics
And the class im playing will still feel more ‘classic’ than Neo with dumb skillbooks
sour snow
shhhh
tight ferry
Dude like fr i cant think of one benefit of neo over live
More challenging content, still p2w but cheaper, able to play earth des how its supposed to instead of dumb neo version, i can do bg every evening and theres always a game going, arena is available and its actually active. Not ALIVE but theres people u can q until 1700
Not sure how a new version of a game can have less features than old version
@terse cairn permabanned?
sour snow
is he? how much ncoin did he print on steam?
sour snow
lmao
tight ferry
Maybe i should login and check if my char still alive 😂
Didnt buy any but sure sold a lot last week
tight ferry
Well only 1-2days before
I sold at high price but still
Depends how far back they look
tight ferry
Not that i care i quit anyways but maybe if i wanna comeback in 6months nice to still have a char
sour snow
crazy work by ncsoft
terse cairn
I didnt even login or bound my account on steam
Amount i rmt after steam release was 100 dg
100 k
sour snow
well, u bought ncoins that got printed
terse cairn
From 1.7 per 1 k, i said why not since market is also empty and everybody is buying, so i convert everything to gold and will not need gold for a while
tight ferry
Well might get unbanned with time anyways
sour snow
probably
tight ferry
yes and its only day 1
terse cairn
I mean you dont really know the gems printed actually or not
sour snow
xddd
sour snow
I mean you dont really know the gems printed actually or not
u dont, thats why u dont rmt during that time, no?
tight ferry
im quickly launching to see if they banned me as a supplier
terse cairn
I thought bots are dumping stock bcs of connection problems
sour snow
but since they were for sub 2€, ig its kinda obvious xd
tight ferry
well i have 0 gems bought and 0 gems used in the last 7 days
so maybe im not on the radar
terse cairn
Btw by banning me technically they removed every unbound purple execute in cinderlands
Gl guys
Xd
Also managed to yoink purple mc b4 ban
So thqts also gone
tight ferry
well most of zevids swiping was from stuff he bought from me
so i would assume he gets banned if i get banned
he might be safe!
late saddle
idk was he fully decked out on legendary gear when he bought u
tight ferry
yes
but it seems they dont look
before that
the gem fiasco was after that
kinda...
tight ferry
real
late saddle
newfags will be done
tight ferry
shouldve done it when it was cool
late saddle
o7
tight ferry
😎
man selling 5 timestream stones for 300e was the peak of my NEO career
@terse cairn u can always buy my acc and continue on moonwater
👍
its an upgrade anyways atleast partially, because of my legendary cards
u just lose executes, u can get those back!
timid fossil
I love how ppl say that they are ruining their income by banning their rmt players
woodheads
waxen turtle
Yea, they already got all the money they planned to get. Now it's just there in case some one decides it's a good idea to waste money on this "game"
terse cairn
I mean 80 percen people i know rmt
And thise 80 percent is the one who is gambling books to sell
And spending back and forth on f5 deleting the divine gems from aconomy
Economy*
So by banning whales and rmt ( all whales rmt one way or another) you are technically hurting economy and market
timid fossil
their main income are still people that actually own money and do spend it in there
who cares abot a few hundred players that buy ncoins for 50,100 bucks to get one skillbook
its the people that cash 10k without any rmt every now and then
waxen turtle
Yea, all the whales are already milked, now game just exists. They are just not smart enough to create another crypto-scam to earn 10~100x they earn from BnS like projects. And instead of real games we get this...
sour snow
BNS HEROES SOON OUT!!!!! new goty
whole ridge
Trash stats 🤡
opal zinc
Wym
upbeat jungle
anyone selling anything? NA
glad cliff
Which Soul Core are you guys focusing on ?
ancient wagon
got tired of the game guys, want to have fun in summer, so wts lvl 55 destro (EU moonwater), 869 AP, (purple and tradable relentless fighter, speed increase, execute is untradable). can give more details, if someone is interested. have a good day 🙂
tall ginkgo
How is the performance for Destroyer in neo?
I kinda did not really enjoy my time back in 2016 with it, so i choose KFM for neo.
But the rotations & skill book systems turned classes pretty different from 2016 i think.
But seeing this Execute stacking build.. i am just curious how much damage you guys are doing or if the rotation is better than just RMB/LMB spamm
late saddle
How is the performance for Destroyer in neo?
I kinda did not really enjoy my ti...
Kfm is busted, but our Damage is good/great at good/ high end gear, always fun to surprise ppl cause we suffer early on
rotation is nothing new from our times in vt, mc was bad cause it had no book, now it does and its good. Execute is still prob higher but you can now choose
earth - cleave, mcleave, smash
Hybrid - cleave, execute
Shadow - eradicate (PURPLE MANDATORY) , execute
If ur committing to des again, definitely pick up the bp and purple execute its game changer.
sour snow
wonder for how much longer comet kfm will be op
tight ferry
Its crazy how dead EU des is
Atleast that NA des should outdps me soon if i look at azura logs
But me yamatos and dosaria still being top4 EU (ofc zevid should be around my dps now if not more), is craze
Unfixable
late saddle
But me yamatos and dosaria still being top4 EU (ofc zevid should be around my dp...
i cant magically outdps 60gm motherfuckers
tall ginkgo
Kfm is busted, but our Damage is good/great at good/ high end gear, always fun t...
I won't re-grind or re-pay anything, so alts are not really for me.
Was just wondering, since i had a destroyer in party with like a 9 book stack of blue execute
late saddle
o7
sullen cape
monke the thing is there are eu destroyers xD but no giga whales really except zevid i guess 
late saddle
I won't re-grind or re-pay anything, so alts are not really for me.
Was just wo...
destro is a great alt class, blue books are enough and cheap, with this bp u can get the best book for des in the game, execute
eventually u then work towards fury
and rest
its so easy compared to when i bought blue cleave at start for like 2,5k
and every execute for 2k
sullen cape
💀
true went for focus cleave in early game since i didnt want to pay 7k for speed
sullen cape
real where are our destros at 
late saddle
i mean as good as this bp is hilariously it made everyone the same gear so everyone is the same
kek
barren rivet
one purp selector box makes everyone same gear?
there are more active DES ingame than the 5 that chat here
sullen cape
well obv not every1 but many destroyer were only missing that purple execute me included xD
ancient wagon
id buy ur cleave if its not gutting me
im not sure about the prices rn, market is offline
wind lake
so I am close to getting lvl 30 on pass for the purple selection book, not sure on if I get Purple Execute (since I am on struggle bus and not have one) or Purple Fury buff
upbeat jungle
Got meh for my 3 skills 2 unusable and then one useable. Def down grab
late saddle
so I am close to getting lvl 30 on pass for the purple selection book, not sure ...
nothing compares to execute in terms of money value AND dps increase/qol
if you don't play execute, then i guess mighty cleave
every single destroyer got purple execute from bp since its so unobtainable normally - the price always hovered around 50k, and its 95% of the time never on market (just like most books anyway)
wind lake
guess the dmg is just too good to pass on, I would think the 10 sec fury buff would be important to, but maybe that is just me
playing back in 2019, Fury buff was the end all be all lol
sour snow
not here, fury its just nice addition, but execute is the main thing, and u want purple cos more dmg and it costs 0 focus
naive eagle
you could also wait until you get the 3 purple books since if you get lucky you might get exe there and then go for fury from selector 👀
wind lake
that is true
but I could also get 3 umbrastomps for that gamba and cry myself to sleep
naive eagle
you need more copium in your life 
wind lake
I need more kontent in my lyfe
but at 800 AP, I can barely do narrows
but I am on day 6 on my attendence book, so I would have to wait till tomorrow to get my 3 gamba books
as I now get to lvl 30 on BP
sullen cape
Yeh idk ppl are crazy with requirements i mean i understand it for bsh1/bsh2 and upwards but all dngs below are so free at this point
wind lake
in my experience, even when I meet their requirements I still get declined
and needing any party protect I understand, but for blue dungeons?
sullen cape
Yeh i got declined so often for bsh2 bcs i didn't had 900ap and when ppl took me always top3 dmg
Well i guess one more thing is ppl are still sceptical of destroyer dmg bcs of live back in the day
wind lake
I date back to some part of 2020 before I stopped
I remember it was either low or too high
sullen cape
True
wind lake
one such as myself could only dream of entering BSH, but maybe if I can get 99 more AP that could happen
sullen cape
💀 well i guess over the time if you hit lvl60 or get the best insignias 
Well i mean even i am kinda low ap tbh for my gear state like every1 around my gear is like 950+ already i have dunno 913 atm i think
sullen cape
💀 what lvl are you at?
wind lake
50 currently, close to hitting 51
sullen cape
Yah Well then it is fine tbh i had the same ap at that level just keep doin your daily stuff and after time you will hit those 900+ap
And maybe you drop some useable legendary accesos those boost ap good aswell
sullen cape
Yah you need to fix your crit stuff way 2 low atm
late saddle
???? Ur stats are definitely all over the place don’t prioritise AP
You need to aim 3k crit rate and dmg so for now start with aiming at 2500
100% ur gna replace those legendaries if they have hp and defense
wind lake
Crit rate and Dmg for most of them
late saddle
Definitely not, you have 600 cdmg
sullen cape
On accesos you need to aim for high crit dmg tbh
You get Tons of crit rate from soul shields+priemers and from psyches
sullen cape
Yeh it is a hard one
wind lake
gear I have now makes it so I can do everything I can now
wouldn't say hard, but long one no doubt
sullen cape
I mean to be fair at this point heroic Accessoires are quite cheap in f5 with high crit dmg and sometimes even with duo crit stat
wind lake
not the best time to rely on f5 sadly lol
sullen cape
yeh obv atm but once market goes live again check the accessories from time to time
wind lake
but I am gonna be on a plateau of progression at this rate, so with my dailies I will look out for Siren stuff
sullen cape
i snacked some nice once quite cheap
wind lake
I wouldn't doubt on that, we will just see on my luck with drops, I assume BBR is best for mult runs for purple acc?
sullen cape
depends which acc you need to switch the most
and does your weapon have crit stats ?
sullen cape
hmm meh weapons give tons of crit stats aswell
wind lake
would say the most is gloves and bracelet need it the most
pretty sure mine dont have either
sullen cape
mhh those only drop in bsh so you cant farm em atm i mean i guess poharan would be nice to farm since you could get a nice ring and maybe with giga luck a good weapon aswell
and they drop quite often
but yeh bug would be the most easy to farm obv and you can get all top3 accesos
dunno if it is legit to post the chances here tbh
sullen cape
yeh they cap for sure
wind lake
it will be a start then, hopefully the hotel wifi will be good for me this week\
sullen cape
and the biggest cap with drop rate is the cs belt it should have a 40% drop rate ill get one after every 5 runs at best
wind lake
not sure when I said "these acc will be place holders for when I need the right stats later" was forgotten lol
sullen cape
feel you well i still have 2 meh acc my bracelet is only crit rate and below 100 at true and yeh my belt is only crit dmg need to fix those 2 aswell
the endless grind for perfect stats is insane
wind lake
Grind and Soul after all
late saddle
wind lake
wish I can that I would start tomorrow after getting the 3 trap books, but if they do the main at the same time, I will come back to the hotel into the main for weekly reset
sullen cape
gl
wind lake
right on something to make the grind more painful
along with 3 skill slots, will 3 stone slots also be the goal to?
sullen cape
in best case yeh but 2 are fine aswell
but imo it is fine if you have a few pieces without stones if they are strong double crit stats
wind lake
seeing the double crit stats would be gon booba
but I need to work with one miracle at a time
the 3 trap books tomorrow will be my raid boss
sullen cape
im hyped for 2 ram and 1 squall book aswell
wind lake
sullen cape
along with 3 skill slots, will 3 stone slots also be the goal to?
to be fair i have only 3 gear pieces with 2 mantra slots and hey i battle for top5 on wb quite often so i guess it is not a must have
sullen cape
yeh it is tricky but lets see once market works again i guess many of the bigger destroyers are almost full legendary at this point so market should be filled quite good with heroic accs
wind lake
Or could be empty for a few days like when I check lol
sullen cape
well that aswell since there are only a few destros left 💀
late saddle
Well maybe buy my stuff tomorrow when i unbox umbrastomp n i leave
wind lake
Managed to make use of it with the emberstomp badge
But I guess I will see that pain first hand soon
At least I can get a purple execute tomorrow from my selection box
sullen cape
purple execute is giga 
i think for me it was 30% dmg increase if i remember correctly
wind lake
Plus a chance to regain the focus used if I remember
Which means you can keep up with your ABC's
Always Be Cleavin
sullen cape
wind lake
sullen cape
yah about 8k
the 23,7k were with blue execute
and the 31,4 were with purple
and that wasnt even the best run^^
so yah big boy increase inc for you
wind lake
Well it will depend for my case
There is still a glaring factor for me and really not many others
I be a dirty game pad mode user
sullen cape
wind lake
So it could be less of an increase then that with these meaty game pad playing fingers
sullen cape
nah it will be fine
wind lake
upbeat jungle
I'm glad I got a useable book in my 3 random
Got purple defense reduction grab
Not many people need focus anymore so it'll be a help for my party's lmao
sullen cape
yah def reduction is the best grab at this point
sour snow
it truly is, luckily i got it from craft
had to hold onto it for 2 months tho xD, before the changes hit
wind lake
sullen cape
id rather have good bsh soul shields than this card xD
its useless unless i get the other 2 aswell
tight ferry
Not worth using anyways right since its onrush
sullen cape
^ and that aswell
tight ferry
Funny enough i have dupe of the meganura, and none of the other ones
And u cant even fuse it
Because wb cards are seperate region
So u need 5x wb card to fuse it
🔥🔥🔥
sullen cape
crazy
i have luck in stuff who is unreachable and with the "easy" stuff like getting together a 5 piecse bsh soul shield set im unlucky af
wind lake
Ugh forgot that I need to consider shield pieces to
BP kinda spoiled me with getting me 5 piece BSH
wind lake
ugh
over 200 MS on this hotel wifi
guess I aint gonna grind the dailies until I go back home :/
Or maybe if it will lower, now I am unsure
sour snow
for just dailies 200 is ok
wind lake
It went lower as I just kept it on
But I am sure it will all over the place if I actually played
umbral mica
any of these good?
sour snow
only ember
sharp dune
looks like I have to go down the mcleave route again lol
sharp dune
I was enjoying Hybrid 😦
sour snow
well now u have alternative for free
i'd say win win
maybe it will be buffed and better in the future 😲
wind lake
Or, maybe when reaper is added, and no more hybrid, you could be set for the mighty cleave part
copper slate
Rip
wind lake
wind lake
Got this slow work day to do first, then I will open my gamba boxes
upbeat jungle
I'm hoping for a event with warlock release
Since none of the books could be used for WL they got a give purples
sharp dune
Sure was a good compensation
I now associate the colour purple with disappointment, regardless if its the launcher or books or heroic core rolls
sullen cape
tbh eradicate gameplay is so chill and i guess even more chill for you with gamepad^^
wind lake
it is more ping friendly for when I didn't have the best ping back then
sullen cape
i pref eradi anyway
wind lake
then again, I had to side shadow acc back then because the earth acc never dropped xD
sullen cape
kills all focus/rage stack problems
wind lake
does it now?
I was just wondering if the galeforce recovered focus like it did back then
sullen cape
well the thing is if you are unlucky with crits you will lose your rage stacks with cleave build
and with purple eradicate you always stack rage even without crits
and your rota with eradicate is rmb/lmb and i never run out of focus
wind lake
which is weird to me since back then it was erads into galeforce and repeat for full execute
sullen cape
i mean with giga gear you can use 2 rmbs and 1 lmb with eradicate and then you yeet giga many executes
late saddle
it is more ping friendly for when I didn't have the best ping back then
definitely more ping friendly
wind lake
still deciding if I should slot it in, not sure since I will need the eradicate badge, and pray that I get some fragments incase I will need to slot it in better acc in my long grind of purple acc
sullen cape
mhh i think if you have emberstomp its fine aswell
obv the cleave/eradicate is best
but in the meantime the other one is good aswell
upbeat jungle
Anyone selling anything on NA?
sullen cape
Mhh i guess grab a moonwater badge from market once it works should be a nice upgrade
wind lake
The emberstomp badge?
sullen cape
Nono the cleave/eradicate
whole ridge
Eradicate is for noobs.
sullen cape
Maybe idc it is a smooth Rotation and you are not rng bound with crits
- execute dmg went skyhill
whole ridge
Eradicate is for noobs.
Every build has its own pros and cons. I think it depends on your preference. In the end some players prefer optimizing. Eradicate definitely is solid.
wind lake
I did like using it again, just need to wait on going home for better ping
sharp dune
mighty cleave seems like it could be really fun once I get around the focus issues
wind lake
I find it fun regardless
But the focus issues is something that has to worked on in due time
Like finding that flow with the Ani cancels feels good
late saddle
mc is definitely more fun
whole ridge
WTS Purple Eradicate pmo
robust dock
WTB Cleave speed inc eu cinderlands
sharp dune
But the focus issues is something that has to worked on in due time
yea, even though I have purple execute and erad also something about mcleave is oddly satisfying, even if less dps, If I find a viable workaround for the focus issues I will stick with it for a while
wind lake
I feel the same way, it is still the reason I have a green MC book in acc, go a soft spot to use it from time to time
sharp dune
plus the bleed is nice
timid fossil
late saddle
10 years too late huh
wind lake
tight ferry
@sour snow u have purple execute right
sour snow
even 2 now
but im thinking about selling unbound one and keeping one from BP
cos shitton of money > 4GM
but i could hold it for flexin tho
tight ferry
Then u just rb rb lb if youre at 70+ focus, and rb lb below 70 focus with eradicate
I cant type in other channel
sour snow
sure sure
tight ferry
Trash mute role
sour snow
u could just type on bnspvp
but 70 focus it like 2 rotations of double rmb
and im dry
tight ferry
They can just remove my mute role i said some people are rtrded 4 months ago because they were rtrded
Bns players
sour snow
factual
tight ferry
Well depends on your focus rec stuff i guess
sour snow
99% of #💬︱neo-chat users is missing braincells
tight ferry
Purple ember, one focus recovery mantra somewhere
sour snow
Well depends on your focus rec stuff i guess
i got 2.7k rate and 0 focus mantras
tight ferry
Should get 1
sour snow
and no purpello ember
tight ferry
Gg
timid fossil
no focus mantra is so cancer XD
I equipped my double crit bracelet rolled crit on it and had no blue mantras cuz of f5 disable
I had issues at tb xD
sour snow
with cleave is np
late saddle
he's cleave+mc
and i can 100% say u need one mantra for era/exe
achieving 2mb1lmb constantly is the goal
sometimes ull still fall short temporarily ofc
can happen unlucky or bad rotation
but mostly won't anymore when u get good crit and purp exe refund is huge
late saddle
when i had blue i had to revert to lmbrmb after two 2rmb1lmb
im speaking of myself, era+exe
sour snow
ye ye
late saddle
made it clearer tbh it was confusing
terse cairn
Then u just rb rb lb if youre at 70+ focus, and rb lb below 70 focus with eradic...
This can be automated with ahk pixel check
tight ferry
Everythign can be automated but u can also like do it with your hands…
If the boss is a dps dummy and your rotation is automated what is the gameplay ure doing yourself? Walking between bosses / clicking gear upgrades? 😟
wind lake
timid fossil
send me a vid then without a kfm or summoner and no focus issues in a 5min fight
tranquil oriole
timid fossil
cleave mcleave still has focus issues
tight ferry
send me a vid then without a kfm or summoner and no focus issues in a 5min fight
Yeah this too
Erad des u have to have atleast 5iq to optimize it focus wise
Ye u can just do rb lb all the time but if u can pay attention to ur focus u can deal quite a lot more
upbeat jungle
WTB Hexwood axe with CD on NA
robust dock
WTB Cleave speed inc EU
wind lake
managed to hit sub 10 on floor 7 for the first time ever, thanks shadow rotation 
wind lake
xbox, but game pad all in all
and you can ani cancel on game pad, not different then keyboard and mouse
amber holly
upbeat jungle
WTB HEXWOOD AXE NA with either CR or CD
brave trout
WTB HEXWOOD AXE NA with either CR or CD
how much
wind lake
Actually found a lead last night to let me join a CS, wish the belt I got was any good lol
wind lake
still no luck on acc drops being good stats :/
wind lake
indeed, hopefully there will be more CS I can join
robust dock
WTB Cleave speed inc eu
for it
wind lake
sour snow
ripbozo
i wasted 200g on leggy craft just for it to be hp regen eva and sell it for 3k xddd
sullen cape
well the thing is now i need to farm 100 years till i get 15 ascent stones together again
wind lake
gonna assume this could have been the chosen one, but the defense stat ruins it?
sullen cape
mhh it would be good if the crit dmg would be higher but that one is quite low
i mean you could have luck and roll it higher with upgrades but the odds are not that high for it tho
wind lake
like the best drop I gotten soo far
well it is like day 2 of the grind, would be copium to get a good drop so soon
wind lake
its like they play with my emotions xD
sullen cape
atleast u got 1 good stat on it xD i got the same core with def and crit def 💀
ancient wagon
WTS purple relentless fighter and cleave speed increase. offer
whole ridge
WTS purple relentless fighter and cleave speed increase. offer
10k for cleave
ancient wagon
10k for cleave <:proud:1366878815418192014>
sorry, a bit too low for me 🙂
also, WTS purple Searing Strike: Fury
whole ridge
sorry, a bit too low for me 🙂
I tried, 10k is almost 100 bucks I tried to be reasonable 
ancient wagon
relentless fighter and speed increase sold, have only purple searing strike: fury left 🙂
also, if somebody needs any of these items - let me know in dm, will seal them and sell.
moreover, have like 20k+ gems, can sell them for the cheapest price for crypto or on revolut.
it was a pleasure playing with you, and hope everyone has a good summer
take care, lads ❤️
late saddle
You got prices set?
ancient wagon
nah, just send me your offer and we can work it out there. hard to compare anything for prices, when destro market is dead
well, poharan ring is still available tbh, guy offered me 4k and will get gems tomorrow, so you can outbid this
but it's a cursed ring, I must want you. 17 poh psyche to get a crit. rate and 100+ gold for awakening 🥹
timid fossil
WTB Cleave speed increase and legy gloves with good stat, EU
tepid mason
Is the exe tradeble?
terse cairn
Dont you have enough already? Xd
ancient wagon
Is the exe tradeble?
axe is reserved for @late saddle , sorry
ancient wagon
relentless fighter and speed increase sold, have only purple searing strike: fur...
ring is still available, the dude that reserved it for 4k is out of money :}
tepid mason
Execute
ancient wagon
ah, sorry, no, execute is untradable, unfortunately
tepid mason
eu
wind lake
assuming it is better to primer rate with the dmg
wind lake
icic
would make life easier to just give both rate and dmg
but no, mushin is out for all of us
sullen cape
yah the new one is strong i mean it has high crit dmg and hey atleast accuracy is a usable stat xD
and we will soon get the possibility to reroll stats on gear so you can make it double crit in the future
wind lake
then I can cross out the earring, guess next is to spam smacking Poh for a better Ring
and Axe since that has been popping out a bit as well
whole sleet
hey guys - want to buy Cleave: Speed Increase EU Moonwater Plains. sry im new in this dc. If you know were i can make a offer, tell me 😄
wind lake
oh snaps 😮
sullen cape
Crazy gz never even saw it drop
wind lake
now just need a good ring
or maybe some purple books because I just found out the free trap books can't be salvage so I need legit purple books to put into the new earring
wind lake
nah some blues on the important skills, my purples now is execute and eradicate
my eradicate is on the earring, so now I need to get purple fragments to extract it and put on the new earrings
sour snow
u dont
u can use only valor stones
its fragments OR 30 valor + 4g
u select 1, u dont pay both
sullen cape
yah never take it out with fragments always with valor stones
wind lake
timid fossil
WTB Cleave speed increase and legy gloves with good stat, EU
late saddle
Poof
wind lake
too used to seeing both options as all mats I need to do the action xD
timid fossil
@tight ferry stop stalking me
late saddle
Monke
tight ferry
Sory bro
How is neo bros
Are u cooking yet
Or destroyer still poopy class
And game still poopy
timid fossil
Im barely holding on
doing my daily challenge and wb xD
not even highland daily
its just boring without raids and pvp
tight ferry
yeah I fully understand
Im glad I quit. Im getting enough dose of bns from playing live 6v6 to rank1 on des/fm and occasional arena on season end. Even tho its kinda dead and not at all what it was years ago, neither is BnS Neo at all what bns is supposed to be, so its fine.
I can only recommend anyone to go play live instead, the pve content is better and more challenging
plus the class simply works there.
late saddle
uploaded an updated vid of bsh2 mujin and a tree run! im not treating this as my personal spam channel so no link until requested o7
as always glad to be of help to anyone if needed
little nexus
late saddle
insane
timid fossil
copyright strike inc
naive eagle
I would be more curious of the miniboss in tree 👀
late saddle
I would be more curious of the miniboss in tree 👀
i can do that, altho i havent found a way to really do much more than 18-20k due to the big pauses during phases
naive eagle
I was hoping to see how other destros deal with the mechs but I guess we dont 
timid fossil
what mech though
naive eagle
Well the red aoes on the ground and then the red spin were the only ones I didnt get used to dpsing throught, but then again I have only been there few times 
but I guess it doesnt really have mechs other than blocking 
late saddle
again, its just a big "nope" since u cant get close. the only thing i can do is lv4 execute right as hes landing (and u jump) and then u sleep
or execute at max range and get 1-2 ticks of dmg
timid fossil
if your group neither has hmb or stealth you have to walk out of the red spin
and for the aoe under him while the jumps are happensing you walk out aswell unless hmb or after he jumps you can ss into the boss and still dps for 1,2secs
late saddle
and the red spin party has to party save (usually u iframe/tank the first hit urself)
timid fossil
2nd boss is chill af
naive eagle
Thats good to know But also sad there isnt sneaky way to still dps without issue yeah tree looks like easier version of lives tree boss
copper slate
Only the first one is annoying
sullen cape
welp didnt saw 2nd boss so far my grp dosent have enough dps for 1st boss
well didnt walk it in some time tho tried it at lvl 55 well i could hold 19k in my best run but yeh grp dmg wasnt enough
tight ferry
Are they giving the defense additional damage buff on wl patch?
If so im coming just to do the stupidest build and then stopping again
brave trout
and the red spin party has to party save (usually u iframe/tank the first hit ur...
you can greed a bit after he jumps, you have time to get an eradicate off to preserve your stacks before he poops second puddle but that’s basically it
have to just delay your burst if he will phase soon
sour snow
Are they giving the defense additional damage buff on wl patch?
no mention of it, will see tomorrow
plush zenith
lets hope they buff destro in future
tepid mason
finally done
opal zinc
That's crazy how much is your first hit critting for?
tepid mason
with a bot of luck i get my true hex weapon on reset and my lvl zp too 58 theni have over 1,1k ap
opal zinc
wts na pmo
plush zenith
a
sullen cape
b
sour snow
WTB legendary:
-earring
-glove
-bracelet
-weapon
with crit damage, preferably x2 crit or crit damage / accuracy
--EU--
late saddle
millionaire
sour snow
🦐
sullen cape
sour snow
WTS purpello Relentless
EU
pearl cloak
dropped axe for monkes defense build
tight ferry
isnt patch tonight?
where are the patch notes lol
im trying to see the additional dmg stat stuff
sour snow
xD
tight ferry
also
for 3 months before i quit we all begged for events
and now
Lucky Pig EXP Event will begin!
June 24 – July 29
2x Dungeon Boss Reward Event will begin! (Portraits, Soul Shield Chests, and Outfits)
June 24 – July 29
Brother Hajoon’s Tome Event will begin!
June 24 – July 29
3 events at the same time?
2x dungeon reward, that was event they got on poh patch in KR
kinda broken.... To farm lab and drop x2 ss
naive eagle
I think rownen said they are still writing patch notes because of some last minute changes or something day or 2 ago 