#Blade Master

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silk beacon
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but rest had lag aswell

hidden pawn
odd mantle
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i see maximum boost on puncture in yast for KR new patch but no power adjustments

grand forge
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hi change the language to korean and it will show new gm effects

twin wren
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What's yall opinions on having 4FMs in Nexus Upper?

quiet otter
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The same as having 4fms anywhere, bad idea

twin wren
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I wonder why people still do it

hearty ether
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unless they have leggy wtd bns_nervous

twin wren
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Having no luck getting a single leggy and the future is looking grim for me

twin wren
desert laurel
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I'm new to BM on neo. What would a lightning BM build look like. If possible can someone link a blue and purple book build?

silk beacon
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but if u do u basically need that badge, thunder drake slash+stroke, blade call, stone slash (gm30 for more bd efect)

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and well, hmb

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if u dont have gm30 stone slash u can use vortex wave aswell to get some bd efect after blocking

desert laurel
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Ok thanks for the answer. I'm starting a bm new and don't have much besides some blue skills.

grand forge
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puncture bm with new awakened skill lair solo

winged reef
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We went from barely being able to do this dungeon in 4m to just soloing it

gilded thistle
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That dude is built different

grand forge
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lair still gonna be unclearable for 99.9% of players if we dont get class buffs next patch 🤣

odd mantle
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is that still a 4 man in kr?

grand forge
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yeah

languid stratus
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Any working macro for punct ?

wooden rain
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but his normal hits are 250k on crit so it's not that much, especially since it seems to be cast rarely

grand forge
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3.6 mill on crit lol

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pretty insane for just a passive effect

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BUT is also 66 gm i believe

wooden rain
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it's not really passive, it's a skill on 60 sec cd

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left side

rapid jolt
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this is soul core

wooden rain
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ah i got confused, he used both at the same time

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i guess timed it for the AP boost

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still, i'd like to see the dps breakdown to see how much it adds

rapid jolt
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Look at the ball around him, 4~7 puncture gets one ball, 5 ball triggers new skill

wooden rain
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i saw it, i don't understand the trigger but it seems to take 15-20 seconds of pure attack spam to get it to hit once

hearty ether
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does it automatically trigger or smth? i didnt see a button pop up

grand forge
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yeah it's a passive that builds up to 5 stacks and then explodes

silver moth
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But it have 60s cd?

quiet otter
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Looks like puncture will stack orbs slower than HS

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Since every 5 puncts 1 orb

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Unless you have really low ping

wooden rain
wooden rain
quiet otter
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Looks like it

quiet otter
odd dagger
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so every 5 puncture is 1 orb and u need 5 orb to release the dmg

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so at gm 48, its like having 8.88x more ap per puncture.

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do we know if it work with any RMB skill

quiet otter
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Yes

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Every main skill triggers it

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Time to switch to hs

odd dagger
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thats a 50% dps increase going from 15 leggy HS to 12 HS 3 leggy new skill

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crazy

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good thing is , both HS and new skill will have the same AP multiplier / s

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so you can just share GM between them.

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dont need to go crazy with GMs on new skill other than getting the 48

quiet otter
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They share gm? how do you know that?

odd dagger
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share as in you dont need to have 13 new skill

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you would only need 4-5 max

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since HS/any other LMB will have better or same AP/s as new skill , its not worth to hyper invest into the new skill.

gilded thistle
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For starters aim for 1

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Still have to win the 5% gamba

quiet otter
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So if i'm already gm 48, the new skill will be gm 48 too?

gilded thistle
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No, think of it as a separate skill

quiet otter
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They always find ways to milk us more

wooden rain
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That's their whole purpose in existence

uneven kernel
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What is puncture and HS CD at maximum boost?

odd dagger
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2/s , 3.25/s

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i think they all have different charge rate?

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in the skill it doesnt exactly specify the number

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i think puncture atleast we know is 20% charge rate

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HS might be 12.5%, DT 17% . TDS 25%

uneven kernel
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It would make sense., but not sure if ncsoft considered it ;p

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maybe its just 1 rmb = 20%

hearty ether
odd dagger
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do we have a DT video

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or anything not puncture

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wasnt there a HS streamer

hearty ether
ember cave
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anyone on EU selling DT?

wooden rain
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Rip we almost had a full week of silence

silk beacon
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Free gnanaya when

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Mods?

gilded thistle
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mods are busy fighting cats

silk beacon
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Keky

wooden rain
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How alive is neo anyway

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Can we get a re-neo already

ember cave
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couple 100 people still play so its fine

wooden rain
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if that's across both regions it sounds like you basically know everybody on your server and there are no random parties

odd mantle
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re-neo is that dg-less server in KR we probly wont get

scenic badge
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Na don’t have the funds to do that

wooden rain
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do what

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copy-paste some files without changing anything?

odd dagger
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think2 wonder if raids would need 3 searing slash bms for perma def down.

vagrant basin
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Yeti basic guide for people havent tried run yeti a little help 🫡

quiet otter
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By the time most ppl can run it, they all be outdpsing it anyway

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Thanks anyway

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What OST is that? sounds like GRANDIA

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Great guide

odd dagger
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dorostare5 cool guide but questionable hs gameplay

twin wren
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Was not focus

odd dagger
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are u using lunar combo max boost or sth think2

twin wren
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i've been broke for so long

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i could not have tried anything else

astral tendon
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What’s the point

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Other than fire bm, is griefing to use searing instead of stones after the class balance change

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If you are considering running 4

silk beacon
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elo

gilded thistle
astral tendon
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pepehehe ill get perma soon

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so i wont be free for too long

silk beacon
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avoid cats and u are good

valid cradle
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Having to avoid cats sounds horrible 😔

odd dagger
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i remember seeing 3 def drops on monarch

subtle grove
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skyze

grand forge
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def shreds 100% stack with each other

astral tendon
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So it no longer stacks

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I mean sure it might work for a month in bt if we don’t get the class buff next week but it will be removed in Jan

grand forge
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oh so it was changed interesting

covert cedar
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At full kit same ping, does TDS compare to HS and DT? I wanna play lightning BM so bad but I heard it has the least dps

astral tendon
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Depends on hand, pure dps wise tds and puncture are about the same a bit better than dt

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pepehehe a bit worse than hs

covert cedar
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I see thanks

hearty ether
quiet otter
astral tendon
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because the thing is

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every top puncutre player

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is using the forbidden macro

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that only cast puncutre when you crit either lmb or tab

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so the max boost is basically useless

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and you cannot drop lmb or tab cos they are your crit buff and also the speed is the same due to GCD even if you drop 1 skill

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so that max boost buff on leg puncutre only is basically useless, and puncture got the least amount of pure damage increase out of all 4 builds

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it might makes it better if you have really low gear and cannot maintain 50% crit, that will be the case for bt, but not anything below that.

astral tendon
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other than that, the buff on stone slash is too big to ingore, espically hs and ligthning all increase damage during bd buff and puncture also benifit a lot from crit damage, the 48 cd got increased to 50%...

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the 18gm also got some increase on each stack.

quiet otter
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Wait, you punct either tab or lmb? wtf

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Which one is that? i dind't know

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Where is it?

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Wanna test it

astral tendon
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Cos in a combo of lmb tab rmb

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If either lmb or tab crit

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You will max boost lmb

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With reasonable gear and crit buff from the build you almost always do rmb

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You may get 2-3 more rmb per minute with the change

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Out of 120

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These are the basic of puncture build, tldr ppl already find a way to do lmb tab rmb combo consistently 95% of the time, the max boost won’t solve focus issue

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And it almost does not increase the damage at all

quiet otter
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Dm it please, i'm currently just dealing 190k i wanna know how much it could increase

wooden rain
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Somehow i previously remember complaints about bm vs bd where bd didn't need to worry about it, now bm gets the buff and it doesn't matter

odd mantle
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the detection macro saves you from spending 2 focus for nothing if you don't crit, it doesnt really increase damage all that much, if you only crit lmb then you are still -3 focus for that rotation

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not having to use that macro helps on situtations like pin where you have infinite focus and you want to puncture regardless of criting or not (after buff)

astral tendon
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Hence that max boost, especially only on legendary book, is useless

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If it is also on purple, maybe is useful for ppl with lower gear

odd dagger
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I think more peeps might have leggys from next patch ownwards

odd mantle
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my crit rate on queen scorp is quite bad i fear pensivewobble

astral tendon
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pepehehe im hitting between 45-55% on slasher

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That is 65% minimum with puncture

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Up to 80% ig

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Above 60% should be rare to not rmb

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Tho kr bm did complain about accuracy and crits in bt

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So that’s probably where they aim for

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pepehehe still, most ppl won’t experience that anyway

astral tendon
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Black tower boxes maybe

gilded thistle
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we need more of those boxes

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queen king princess whatever

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MOAR

odd mantle
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im sub 60% bns_cry maybe after i level it will be fine

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or they nerf her to 75

gilded thistle
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I do not associate with any of this bns_nervous

astral tendon
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Glad nobody named them after me

languid stratus
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So basically punct still Garbo tier skill?

astral tendon
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ecksdee still viable build, and is a lot easier to dps compare to lightning

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dt is just budget build most of the time and it can also run searing

languid stratus
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im runnin gm 72 leg punct rn but feels weak af

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also got viet/taiwanese macro and it fks me so hard since it doubles dmg text do it doesn't decect properly

winged reef
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Why instead of having to buff every class and build they don’t just balance the content they put out so that more people can clear

gilded thistle
winged reef
valid cradle
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Gotta sell the experience of number go up.

hearty ether
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did they scam us on the buffs? 😭

odd dagger
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yes

hearty ether
slim mortar
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bruhhh😭

winged reef
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Small indie dev, please understand

gilded thistle
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I like the part that they supposedly work on these notes for a week, then pull this.

silk beacon
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they just did an oopsie

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oopsie every patch unlucky

uneven kernel
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they fixed it

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*by removing skill changes from patch notes

astral tendon
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Clown company

wooden rain
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Always has been

faint cloud
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Where’s BM buff? Gone?

wooden rain
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there is no BM buff in Ba Sing Se

odd dagger
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oh man, so close to the actual good skill

wraith sage
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hi , they remove the skill buff or something ?

odd dagger
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it didnt exist

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rownen wrote it from his dreams

astral tendon
valid cradle
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Are you recruiting? bns_bursting

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I hope you have corridor keys

astral tendon
slim mortar
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stonks

silk beacon
quiet otter
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This event is really bad when you think about it

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This human cow guy spent 97k gems on it for 2 leggies

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Scam

odd dagger
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for every 97k gem guy there is also a 10k gem guy

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rng is rng

quiet otter
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Rather just straight buy the leggy

odd dagger
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yea but gamblers gamble

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if u were like the kr destro guy

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he got 2 +9 with 2k gold

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thats worth af

quiet otter
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I'm already gm 172 an extra leggy won't make that much of a difference anyway

dry bane
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great game

gilded thistle
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omg i didn't see the "3 Owned" part

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wow

languid stratus
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God damn wish I had even one

slim mortar
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i got dt pog

dry bane
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Time for the DT+Stone slash combo? Or do I just live with the curse of owning those 3?

silk beacon
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i got DT.. wish we could trade xD

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i also got puncture :_)

gilded thistle
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I got slashers XD

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final one was stone slash though

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so W

odd dagger
gilded thistle
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I swear it's happening on purpose

astral tendon
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pepehehe I still have the transmute fragment, no idea if I will use them or not

gilded thistle
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lightning draw

astral tendon
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Well hs is kind sh1t in PvP so I’ll need some puncture as well if I go that route

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pepehehe but then I realise i still have like 12 purple puncture

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I need 1 leg puncture, 3 lightning draws and a whole new set of accs to be a demon in besatbog

odd dagger
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Pvwhat

astral tendon
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dumbpepe i dont plan to be a demon in the beastbog

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i havent been there for like a week

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not even the 30k exp daily

languid stratus
slender pecan
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nanaya can yu list the build ı got scammed by hajoon your telling most cheap turn for my build

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is it work pve ?

languid stratus
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just f3 the whales lol

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Nanaya/senso for example

slender pecan
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nope he says ı can do, not his build at the moment.. probably nobady does just asking

astral tendon
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Idk what’s your build

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There are 4 builds for bm

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Copy me for slasher, senso/chifusas for puncture, riven for fire, lightning nobody play but book you need 2x leg stone slash and leg tds and silverforst mystic badge

odd dagger
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StoneRRF for lightning dorobeam

gilded thistle
silk beacon
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im the unseen

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pikachu

slender pecan
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ım on it

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uniuqe

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only light draw build

odd dagger
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holy best MSP build

slender pecan
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ıthen ı get this

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well maybe ı become demon on beastbog

astral tendon
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Is not the best and it requires good gear and crit cards to somewhat work

slender pecan
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what is the key skills cylone

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solar ?

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probably need 1 light draw leggy

hearty ether
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esp now with purp puncture books being the cheapest theyve ever been

astral tendon
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The key is lightning draw reset cd after crit, and if your skill crit within 0.5 seconds, even if it is not lightning draw it still counts

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So optimal rotation is tab 4 tab 4

slender pecan
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soo thank yu well keepp until get leggy ld

astral tendon
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If 4 fcked up then you just do puncture rotation

slender pecan
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get rid of thunder

astral tendon
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But if you don’t have leg lightning draw just go puncture

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And if you get leg stone slash use that instead

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The lightning draw build should only be considered if you are stuck with a leg lightning draw

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Puncture get purple lunar, purple lmb cyclone fissure purple z

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Block cyclone if you are low gear

slender pecan
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oke well ım try thank yu

odd dagger
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LD build seems fun ng

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ngl

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too bad the next buff patch doesnt add dmg to LD on badge

slender pecan
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ı dont know they change every time ı got recipie for conversion

winged reef
silk beacon
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hope to see myself on top10 after buffs

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and if not, unlucky

winged reef
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You got leggies yet?

odd dagger
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he has

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48 stone 96 tds

odd dagger
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how does ur msp look like rn with 48 gm ld

slender pecan
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so easy XD

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but crit has to be hit and happy triger moment happen

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yu cant overkill mobs

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still evade 70lwl ones

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ı should stay away from them little

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real issue is wait cdr

hidden pawn
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Are gold books ez to get now?

twin wren
hidden pawn
valid cradle
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They're not cheap

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But a legendary fragment or 100 purple fragments and 5 hajoon boxes does get you a bound one now

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random bound book

slender pecan
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need good crit chance

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can use thunder or saber badge

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4 saber combo nice

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u can change multislash add because bound gift from lwl up (yast dont say but thunder hit bonus when in black dragon nice combo)

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good with poh core

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dont advise your main char good msp but when yu miss crit lower your damage much

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heh yu can hit asura out of flame circle , and best of all cheap

quiet otter
slender pecan
quiet otter
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All i see is gm 48 on lighting draw

slender pecan
quiet otter
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I see 8

valid cradle
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You can see all skills that have books equipped

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for example

quiet otter
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Yeah, but i thought he meant GM 48 with one book equipped

slender pecan
quiet otter
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Can you launch the game on purple and steam at the same time?

worn rapids
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Got bound legend TDS from hajoon.
Is it good compared to purple HS gm48?

astral tendon
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you will need sf mystic badge, good crit rate and preferably 30 stack leg stone slash for the build to rotate properly

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if you have all that go for it, if not you will find out yourself deal less, at best on par to 48 purple slasher and is way harder to play

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end game tds is on par with puncture, not hs either

worn rapids
odd dagger
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ya tds looks cheap then u realise u need like 20k dg to upgrade it

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or 10k dg if u find from some quitter

slim mortar
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as a tds player its a fun build, although it has some focus problems which can be annoying sometimes but yeah SF badges are needed otherwise its not really playable:) just find out yourself if you like it or not

slender pecan
odd dagger
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@gilded thistle what color does ur wings change to when using puncture

gilded thistle
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i never really paid attention to it

odd dagger
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peeb saw that they change color based on ur main leggy skill

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wind bd has cyan wings when they use typhoon

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slasher has red wings

astral tendon
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What wing

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Are we having new crap

gilded thistle
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The cosmetic

hearty ether
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the purple ones at least

quiet otter
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They need to make new outfits and wings, etc. Why do they keep reusing LIVE assets?

wooden rain
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You know why

mortal oar
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Share the macro for puncture pls

quiet otter
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The forbidden words

uneven kernel
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there should be no build where you need to macro

odd dagger
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dm it

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u will get muted for posting it here

uneven kernel
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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oh

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they are fast

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aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cueW91dHViZS5jb20vd2F0Y2g/dj0xUGtzRUpWSWV6VQ==

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b64

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my cat dont like my keyboard cinino

astral tendon
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dumbpepe i post it, im premaed within 30 seconds probably

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we not free anymore in bm chat

uneven kernel
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who is so rude to us?

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moderators don't want to punish us either, but they have such guidelines, so I wish you all the best

languid stratus
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we're not free for playing like worst class at current state of the game :C

uneven kernel
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In current state yes, but after balance changes BM will be pretty ok, even DT, also with new passive skill

astral tendon
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Still one of the worst after everyone got buffedbns_bursting

quiet otter
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BM is second lowest dmg of all classes

languid stratus
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was so nice watching kfm without any leg book almost doubling my dps on yeti

astral tendon
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It was playable for 2 weeks recently in kr, 1st was with the first wave class buff, 2nd was the week only bm got the new bullsh1t 5% skill, but this is only to one man in kr

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dumbpepe we won’t get any of those

uneven kernel
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what about new passive skill, is it build dependant? i saw it have cd so should'nt be build dependant

astral tendon
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dumbpepe slasher and dt will cast on cd

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After the cd is like 15% damage increase

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Use to be 20%+

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Also forget about the skill for a while

silk beacon
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ok so puncture and lightning should get another buff.. 😄

astral tendon
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It’s a 5% gamble and it takes 8 leg pages per click

languid stratus
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so again all other skills besides hs got robbed

astral tendon
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So idk why are we talking about stuff nobody gonna getdumbpepe

languid stratus
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yeah, that's true

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i would try my luck ngl

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but doubt i will stay with this game for that long

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made 3x 5% miracle but well... sill getting out dpsed by most of people out there

astral tendon
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I mean is not like is logical to use that skill before you have like 160 stacks on main skill anyway

languid stratus
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agree, chasing skill which requires high mats and low chance is just stupid

astral tendon
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You get more damage with 2 main skill books unless your main skill is already stacked

languid stratus
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there is no doubt about that, but first of all they should make all classes equalish if i can say that

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since bm can be easly outdpsed by classes without single leg book

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it's like leg book for bm is just shiny golden point in eq, nothing else

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im even starting to think that leg stone slash would give me more than leg punct

astral tendon
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dumbpepe is just beacuse puncture leg doesnt really provide anything

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and is a sh1t skill to stack on due to the damage share is bad and the other 2 skill dont have leg book to stack

languid stratus
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and instead of making it any viable they just put "maximum boost"

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which make only drain focus faster

hushed locust
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hi, wtb purple sun stroke for my alt o/

potent ether
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Hey how many TDS should I hit within the 6s window of black dragon buff?

odd dagger
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10

potent ether
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ah tyty

red osprey
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How is BM damage at max gear compared to other classes rn?

astral tendon
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sh1t

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dumbpepe im like half max geared

potent ether
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poop

quiet otter
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BM is second lowest in dmg

astral tendon
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depends on build, hs is not that sh1t

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dumbpepe build wise, assuming everyone is playing without some client side shenanigans only execute, wtd, lightning bd, any kfm build and maybe wl in shorter fights are clearly better, at least compare to hs. and bd/kfm are only better on high level end game stuff.

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post buff, everything is sh1t compare to lightning bd, ck kfm and maybe shadow wl a tier below above the rest.

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the rest are kinda the same

astral tendon
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dt is still meh, a tier below the rest

red osprey
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Hs after Buff as strong as destro and WTD FM now?

odd dagger
astral tendon
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dumbpepe around the same or slightly worse than des depends on gear and what you are fighting since des at least still have some built in crit rate

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If everyone hitting from start to finish none stop with 0 down time then hs could be better

uneven kernel
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Asura or Yeti Soul for DT?

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or Gubong

dry bane
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Yeti souls grief each other depends on you mates/party

uneven kernel
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I thought about queen, but it is bugged

odd dagger
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queen needs target to be dazed rightto do dmg

uneven kernel
odd dagger
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those conditional souls are kinda hard

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but my friend said asura soul wasnt doing the 2nd part of its dmg to bosses

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not sure if thats true

uneven kernel
odd dagger
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petrification is just daze no?

uneven kernel
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dont know, but should work on bosses when no CC bar is open

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so it is something else

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Daze is after petrification

odd dagger
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ah

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can u test if asura core works on bosses

uneven kernel
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I just checked on Bug, in dps meter it was not shown, but there was 2 ticks, 20k and ~80k, so it work. Maybe Your friend just checked in dps meter logs

odd dagger
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dorocross so asura is the best one

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but yeti is best as a solo one, not like that tiny bit of dmg really makes a diff

uneven kernel
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just checked 2nd time

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in dps

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but in logs

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so Asura best, just dps meter not count 2nd tick

odd dagger
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either way

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might as well wait for new region soul by now

uneven kernel
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thanks

astral tendon
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dumbpepe tbh

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no stats 3 line core is the best for majority of the bm'

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because you are losing dps by casting core

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pretty much no matter what build you play

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unless you are casting at the beginning, or casting at a point where you cannot hit or are not doging anything

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such as before the damage reduction ends on nexus .

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otherwise casting soul core always means -dps

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and you lost more the higher the ap you have

uneven kernel
astral tendon
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it will give you more damage

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cos you are losing damage by pressing core

odd dagger
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psure the ap and dmg mod itself will make up for cast time?

astral tendon
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and you are not losing damamge by not pressing core and have an extra line of stat

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no

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the ap amount is so small

uneven kernel
astral tendon
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bm is all the same

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you have no burst

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well maybe lightning

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after patch puncture will have burst

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but as of now

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there are no burst on bm

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so casting core is just losing damage cos you are losing up to 3 dt

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and it takes a lot of time to catch up, from the core damage and ap buff

uneven kernel
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depends of battle length, you use it before battle start

astral tendon
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thats the only cast pretty much

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for most fight

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for it to make sense

odd dagger
#

how long is cast 1sec?

astral tendon
#

0,8 on paper

uneven kernel
#

0.8

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but there is animation

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and global cd i think

astral tendon
#

it defintely felt more than 0.8 and you cant really cancel it

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i mean you sort of can, if you have purple v

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is a self root

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and during purple v you cant get root.

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so you can move around and even end the animation

uneven kernel
#

you know in reality, there is no 100% uptime when you slash slash slash, there are often times when you can cast it when you cant dmg boss

astral tendon
#

if you go for utility, just get yeti cos is 16 meters

astral tendon
#

some cases sure, as i mentione for example before damage reduction drop for nexus

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you have to find time when you cant damage boss not dodging stuff and just standing around

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it also interupt max boost for slasher, also interupt rump up damage for dt

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so realsitcally you will lose more damage than on paper the 0,8 second you are losing.

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utility wise for aoe, just get yeti cos of 16 meter aoe compare to other's 12

uneven kernel
#

so like always "it depends" cinino

astral tendon
#

dumbpepe the difference between differnt core would be minimal anyway, the good thing about 3 stats core is you can have accuracy on it which depends on level and gear can yield way more damage than soul core casting

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but in the end is still it depends

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i didnt go for 3 stats one cos by the time i realise asura is useless is sort of too late cos i went for it too early, and now im half way to leg soul core so no point to get another purple 3 stats one

odd dagger
#

Catxmasjeje good thing i went for budget ken and gen so early

astral tendon
#

you need 5.4-5.6 accuracy to hit 100% on all the content techinically clearable to us, the less cd/cr you sacrfise for that the better.

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getting 150-200 accuracy on soul core is pretty huge

odd dagger
#

Catxmasjeje it also gives slightly more sf

astral tendon
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dumbpepe if you just want sf, you can do some card trick or get some additional useless high rarity books to inflate it

odd dagger
#

Catxmasjeje did all that when i wanted to get yeti pt

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Worrythink now i need to find 400 sf to get lair pt

astral tendon
#

dumbpepe idk, i never saw pug group for lair

odd dagger
#

i ocassionally see kas pugging

astral tendon
#

is all asking privately and if you have the connection you can do them with lower sf anyway

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dumbpepe like i havent got a single lair box for more than a week or 2

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tbh slasher bm is probably the easiset to pug, you just need 3 dps

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kekw cos you can to mech and have hmb

uneven kernel
#

its not BM wise, but will 7.01 costume same gold wise like last? im asking because of wings for4 harmony coin, do you know?

quiet otter
#

So hard to find my last leggy punct, seems like everyone just salvaged them

hearty ether
quiet otter
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Did we get the boosted punct without crit?

odd dagger
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no

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Worrythink I am seeing even more EU BMs switch to HS now.

quiet otter
#

Quitters

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They will regret it when punct gets AOE

odd dagger
#

i liked it better when i was the only hs player

quiet otter
#

I mean HS is good, but not even near the dmg punct can pull

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Only lacks aoe

astral tendon
#

Now hs is the best dps build both aoe and single target

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And the difference will be bigger after the class buff

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Cos hs got buffed more

quiet otter
#

Punct will be buffed way more too

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But i understand being AOE is more attractive to most

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+HS has an insane range

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All of these changes are always temporary, there will be a time when even DT will be the best dmg and then lighting will be best and then pucnt again and so on. They always rotate which build is top tier

astral tendon
#

dumbpepe none of those are confirmed, the reality is dt is still the worst dps build after 1 year lightning is playable but never the best

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Idk about always rotate bits

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And puncture got buffed the least in the next patch

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They may try to bring everything up to a level but nobody knows what those decisions were based on

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dumbpepe cos hs got buffed the most even tho it is basically on par with other build fully stacked from sf day 1

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Actually no, lightning was the worst at least they changed it so its playable

hearty ether
astral tendon
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bt boss 1 tank has ap buff and massvcie threat buff

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you can tank with 50k dps if yo uwant to

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so idk

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they are surely not tanking boss 4

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dt is still objectively the worst bm dps build even after the buff ecksdee

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not by that much as it use to be

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you can also tank with 1 threat mantra as you only need 18 to max out cd/cr and dt doesnt need the focus one.

hearty ether
#

ya i guess so 😭 hopium

odd dagger
#

DT has what 28.2 AP/S after buff without conditions.
HS is 28.6 AP/S without conditions.

DT has additional 60% uptime of 3.75 ap/s with heat buff so 2.25
HS has 50% uptime of BDR with 9 AP/S so 4.5

DT has additional 3.6 ap/s during grab/grapples.

DT has additional 10% crit dmg due to being in draw stance. Draw stance buff pretty much cancels out stone slash bonuses.

Final AP/s is pretty much similar, 30.45 vs 33.1 without grab.

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so if u have sum in group DT gonna perform similar to HS with grapple. if you dont have sum, DT is still good since now u will have def down for the boss.

hearty ether
#

as long as DT can hang with the rest a bit 😭 don't need the optimal dps that HS has

astral tendon
#

dumbpepe first hs has more than 50% uptime on bd at end game.

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2nd the without condition bit for dt assume always 4 stacks ramp up

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and 100% uptime for heat, which is sort of the case .

hearty ether
#

theres a new badge too with the new region that makes searing slash hit harder too no?

astral tendon
#

draw stance buff defintely dont cancel the stone slash after buff.

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that goes for stone slash as well

hearty ether
#

ah it amplifies the dmg of both slashes

astral tendon
#

is the same multiplier to stone slash and searing slash, lightning draw doesnt have it

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but applying heat also interupt ramp up stacks.

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dt need 1.5 seconds to just get to that damage in all the calculation.

hearty ether
#

yup

astral tendon
#

is not as bad as it use to be where when fully stacked it was still sh1t compare to other build.

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dumbpepe but it is still sh1t

odd dagger
#

else DT is over 29+

astral tendon
#

idk how you would take that into account...

odd dagger
#

what else gives heat other than searing and meteor

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you just avg out the ap over total increase over BDR duration.

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if anything its low balling

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it could be higher

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cause u get extra BDR with X

astral tendon
#

any other skill cast remvoe the ramp up tho

odd dagger
#

what else are u gonna cast

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other than searing / meteor ss

hearty ether
#

sun stroke

odd dagger
#

yes ss

hearty ether
#

ah

astral tendon
#

you mentioned x i assume blade storm.

odd dagger
#

yea

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V 4 X

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or whatever combo they are running rn

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basically same bdr addition as sunstroke

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so 6 sec ramp up difference most of the time

astral tendon
#

fished some old sheet i had, dt assume always 4 stacks was like 30.6/s without heat and 34.4 with heat.

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slasher was 29 without bdr and 39 with bdr.

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dumbpepe so ig about the same.

odd dagger
#

stone buff more or less helps puncture more than HS since they can use that new V V burst in that 6 sec window than HS

odd dagger
astral tendon
#

v and qxe would be worth after buff tho, it reduce your count from 3.3 to like 2.7/8 for that duration but still yield more damage.

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actually v brings it down more so maybe not

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blade storm would be worth.

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but v would not be damage loss like now since higher multiplier

astral tendon
quiet otter
#

Would be funny if they started adding new builds for each class, spectral neo bm what aberration would that be

hybrid goblet
#

Lunar combo build

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or flash step

odd dagger
#

make tab stacking great again

wraith sage
#

is something coming with meteor strike ? i sold 3 this last 4 days 500DG the skill , don't last 2 hour in the HV !

quiet otter
#

Gives heat buff i think

orchid ocean
#

meteor strike always gave heat though

topaz thorn
#

@odd mantle im here

scenic badge
#

its been playable

analog yarrow
#

After next balance patch, which build is better, HS or TDS?

hearty ether
# red osprey

everything is playable with those stats & gear lol

quiet otter
#

Crazy how only lv77, meaning lv80 must take years to reach

odd mantle
#

and your reward is a legendary portrait chest lol

astral tendon
#

dumbpepe I mean 77-78 need 214 mils exp

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That already need half a year

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Assuming you grind 1.5-2mils a day

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Well not quite half a year, 3-4 month

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‘Doable’ ig

odd dagger
#

senso might hit that in 2

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or less

astral tendon
#

I mean if he is slasher

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dumbpepe puncture no

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Is pretty much 2x the speed

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Almost 3 mils a day with puncture at 77 from just farming would be pretty painfulpepehehe

odd dagger
#

the 77 exp bar kinda killed my motivation to farm exp

hearty ether
#

no point in farming exp at lv 77 until the new stuff comes out for us no?

quiet otter
#

Ngl farming msp as punct is cancer

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But for dungeons is OP

astral tendon
#

actually i forgot about 1 thing

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does EU even have enough supply for hourglass to allow 1 person grind 8 hours a day

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i doubt

odd dagger
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if u camp enough monarchs

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u will have a lot

astral tendon
#

it also takes away farming time if you go to every monarch.

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so you will have to farm longer

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and how many monarch you can get a day? 20? thats around 10 hour glass.

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idk if you can get 20 a day or not

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maybe not

hearty ether
#

not unless u stacked them from previous patches

astral tendon
#

idk how long is the spawn

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is it 4 hours?

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or 4-6 hours at random time

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10 hour glass might be enough if your class can farm 600k exp an hour at 77

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idk if anyone can do that without either absured luck for yeti or some movement technology

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maybe you get it on lucky hours but not consistently

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dumbpepe i havent farm yet at 77, i can hit 600k per hour at 76 if i have no contest for a large area, but most of the time wont really find a space like that

quiet otter
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And i mean killing them then going back to map, not staying waiting for them to respawn

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Can farm around 1k per day

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If op enough

red osprey
#

You get an Hourglass with 6% chance from minibosses. If you killed 1 per Minute which is already unrealistic you would get 1.8 Hourglasses on average in 30min. Ok you get 2-4 boxes but still its not that great.

quiet otter
#

3 chs

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And i don't kill them by myself, i wait till someone calls monarch and after that we kill minis

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So it's pretty much like 10 secs per mini and 1 min for monarch

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You actually spend more time running from place to place than killing them

astral tendon
#

i guess there is a way to farm 4-500 boxes per 30 mins + all the mnoarch in between

quiet otter
#

This guy MrCepe gets a lot of boxes

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Daily

red osprey
#

After Buff:
HS (Badge 1.55, Base 6.05 + 1.2 + 3 while BD = 11.8)
Dt (Badge 2.05, Base 6 + 1.5 + 1.5 while Heat + 3 max consecutive stacks = 14.05)
Puncture (Badge 2.1, Base 6.5 + 1.3 + 5.3 while BD = 15.2)
TDS (Badge 2,75, 6.95 Base + 4.85 while BD + 1.75 = 16.3)

Did I overlook sth. or HS buffs underwhelming compared to other Specs? TDS seemed to got the most buffs

astral tendon
#

Tds is 1.5-1.6 rotation per seconds

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Hs is 3.3

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Dt is 2.5

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Puncture is 2

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dumbpepe I mean yeah just look at the number on 1 hit hs is always sh1t

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Also puncture is not while bd

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Is during vv

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That last 6 something seconds every min

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It’s just a burst, majority of the time puncture will have -5.3 ap per hit

silk beacon
#

Tds needs more cocaine for faster hits per min

quiet otter
#

I'd trade any future buff dmg for AOE

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Don't really wanna go HS

grizzled mulch
#

Hi all, is there a BM Puncture guide?

quiet otter
#

Go play HS, no one plays punct anymore cause AOE is king

slender pecan
wraith sage
#

finely the damage output rank will not change ?! Im right ?
1 - HS
2 - Punct
3 - DT
4 - TDS

grizzled mulch
#

I see that there are some opnion differences. Is there a BM main who can help me?

quiet otter
#

Wdym a BM main? this is BM CH

slender pecan
carmine acorn
#

wtb cyclone on block, stone slash

quiet otter
#

Will KR make punct AOE? make punct great again

silver moth
#

DT aoe when?

grizzled mulch
#

Guys what is the standard rotation for HS (Heavenly Slasher) Blade Master?

limpid marten
#

if i'm playing dt(purple) at 48gm but i got a leg puncture bound with the later event it's worth the switch to 48gm punc ? i mean dps increase or nah ?

odd dagger
#

ofc

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puncture is just cheaper and better than DT

#

both are single target , atleast puncture has minor aoe

quiet otter
#

Minor aoe as in no aoe

slender pecan
#

puncture just boring ıdk your choice

odd dagger
#

the only non boring spec is tds

#

everything else is same

winged reef
#

Lightning number 1, what’s new

quiet otter
#

Can't think of anything more boring than HS, all you do is RMB and E

odd dagger
#

bns_bursting u do the same thing with puncture just replace rmb with the macro button

#

atleast HS need to manage BDR a bit.

quiet otter
#

Not true, i have to V C 4 Z 3

odd dagger
#

weirdo like HS doesnt use V C 4 Tab E

carmine acorn
#

which is better for pvp

astral tendon
#

Nobody PvP so it is not a valid question pepehehe

languid stratus
#

Does anybody knows the price for class swap? will it be worth to wait and swap all books from punct to hs?

astral tendon
#

Will never be worth if you try to double swap, the amount of gold you need to double swap, you might as well just buy a full set of book if there is supply

#

Without supply is another story, but worth should never appear in the sentence

languid stratus
#

ye but the problem is i have 2 leg punct but both are bound

astral tendon
#

Bound need even more gold to swap

languid stratus
#

ouch

astral tendon
#

And tradable skill will be converted to bound after 1 swap

languid stratus
#

as i thought ;/ wanted to get some luck with getting leg hs from boxes but ended up with 2 punctures

astral tendon
#

Class swap only make sense if you want to actually hop to another class to save money for gearing and time for leveling

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pepehehe ofc nc will do the calculations to make sure you will lose a lot of money if you just try to convert books, nothing new

languid stratus
#

sad, but predictable

#

guess like i may need to stay with punct and hope for some leg selectors, hs market is dry

astral tendon
#

If you didn’t get all books you need during the queen box period then yeah, this is what market normally looks like

#

Basically nothing

languid stratus
#

ye i see like 1-2 purp hs from time to time but for crazy prices like 3k+

astral tendon
#

bns_bursting I sold 2 for 3k+

languid stratus
#

ye cuz there are no more anyway, all bms want them

#

or most i would say

odd dagger
#

sheeps Catstare

twin wren
#

Use the skill when the boss bars are not open to get back 10% hp. So you don't sabotage your team with a daze. That 10% maybe will help abit in pvp if u keep spamming it?

slender pecan
#

pvp its dead blue book dont give yu much ım used area effect one only for my ld stack, deep wound one not an enormus thing and single target

carmine acorn
odd dagger
#

peeb who are u pvping

carmine acorn
twin wren
#

Dew it

slender pecan
#

is the fight club on beasbog ?

twin wren
#

First rule of fight club

odd dagger
#

Worrythink u aint ever catching me near pvp area

carmine acorn
#

shame 😔

astral tendon
#

dumbpepe beastbog is kind of a gear feast anyway.

#

like im runing with 25k defsense and normally ppl just dont do damage to it no matter what kind of cc they have

#

throw a pvp set with worse stats on it, good luck.

#

is basically which class can pvp the best with pve build

#

hence as of bm, get 48 lightning draw and play puncture, you are good with pvp now

#

the only cc skill you may need is z stun pull for the lucky z44 one shot, other than that just pop vv and hold rmb on someone and hope they die

cedar fractal
#

purple lunar slash or thunder drake? if thunder drake its slash or stroke?

odd dagger
#

everything depends on the build u are going for

#

Slash is RMB , Stroke is Tab

#

for thunder you need both stroke and slash

#

lunar slash is for puncutre build

astral tendon
#

i failed to understand the question, ithe lv45 blue boxes tells you which tab/rmb and in a sense lmb you need to build for fire lightning and puncutre

silk beacon
#

well u need 30gm stone slash atleast

#

and rest TDS so

silk beacon
#

o7

odd dagger
#

oh hey its the new kraken

silk beacon
#

man got his +9neck and another +8 like candy

#

XD

odd dagger
#

another +9*

silk beacon
#

oh he got x2 +9?

odd dagger
#

yea

silk beacon
#

:_)

#

must be gm account

astral tendon
#

Imagine getting +9

#

Never saw it

odd dagger
silk beacon
#

idk i felt like

#

put autoclick while making dinner

cedar fractal
slender pecan
scenic badge
#

@tight oak if you can get 30 gm stone

#

I just use parry because its faster cd

bronze seal
#

Is puncture going to be good after the patch? No one is selling for the past 2 weeksbns_cry

languid stratus
#

As nanaya stated: HS > Punct > Dt > TDS, so still same, only numbers will go up

odd dagger
#

according to NC , puncture has highest dmg Catsmile

#

Fire - defensive spec with more debuff.
TDS/Slasher - balanced spec Cozzydo

lilac cradle
astral tendon
#

Tbh after patch puncture might be worse than dt if there is no sum in the teambns_bursting

#

If sum is there, dt is still the worst dps wise

#

Well not worse, slightly worse on paper, all 4 builds are kind of the same after patch

winged reef
#

Is the skill patch update next Tuesday at last?

primal hound
#

puncture may be stronger but you're gonna have an insanely rough time grinding gold and msp, and this game is starting to revolve around msp like crazy. I couldn't take it anymore and swapped. maybe once everyone can obtain that new aoe leggy skill then puncture farming can become more viable

odd dagger
#

honestly they should jst add some spots which have a single really high hp mob

#

so single target classes can farm that

valid cradle
#

Thats what the mob in the middle is for bns_bursting

astral tendon
#

dumbpepe single target build is kind trash, from what i heard wind kfms are also crying in kr

#

even tho they are 50% above everyone expect lightning bd and myabe a mega whale shadow wl in term of dungeon dps

#

and their damage is slightly higher than lightning bd as well.

#

puncture is not stronger by any means, even single target it got changed to a burst build that has mediocre consistent damage.

#

puncture after buff is like what, 31.7ap/sec without flock, which is not that much better than dt and hs, but then these 2 get more from stacks.

#

with flock is 42 something which is good, but after considering the gm damage probably wont even be that much better compare to dt/hs normal rotation.

#

the always max boost change took away too much potential number changes to the skill and the skill still suffers from you cannot split stack like ligthning bd

#

puncture is still only around 60% of the damage before stacks when dt/hs the main stacking skill is with 90%+ share. also the change did not solve the focus issue at all for puncture, unless you have ture+ timestream for the focus recovery, it wont even be that comfortable in later content.

#
  • the dc issue, there is really no reason to play it unless you are already far into the build and hope for the future.
hearty ether
#

make dt aoe thx ncsoft

slim mortar
#

^

silk beacon
#

make light great again

hearty ether
#

-# if you have enuf books

silk beacon
#

and crit rate card sets

hearty ether
astral tendon
#

Both lightning and hs require 3 hong to play at this patch

#

dumbpepe in lair and bt at least

#

I still run out of focus from time to time even if it is rare

twin wren
#

I remember switching from puncture to HS because the tigers keep body blocking poharan

#

Good times

loud hinge
#

Is there anyway to improve focus issue of punct @gilded thistle bns_sick

loud hinge
twin wren
#

Rip...i mean cool

loud hinge
#

102 gm but dps feels like sheesh

twin wren
twin wren
#

U lose your KD though

loud hinge
twin wren
#

I used alot of book for focus

loud hinge
#

Z, 3 and block cyclone. Yea

twin wren
#

How about the lmb one?

loud hinge
#

Spamming 2 to buy time for those skill’s cd

loud hinge
twin wren
#

There's also tab chance to increase by 2?

twin wren
loud hinge
#

That should lmb cyclone for cr boost

twin wren
#

I didn't depend on that since my crit ratio was ok back then

#

Main problem was the focus so i took every focus gaining skill available

twin wren
# loud hinge That should lmb cyclone for cr boost

I depend on purple lunar slash combo instead because it +2 focus on crit hit and increase crit rate by 1% for 1 sec and max boost the RMB skill. So it was like a 3 in 1. Whenever i feel like my focus would be flat i start using the skill to get me back on track.

hearty ether
#

wonder who the first BM'll be with the new leggy skill n if its gonna make a crazy amount of dps difference

astral tendon
#

3 books are about 18-20% increase with no cd version

#

A bit less with 10 sec cd

#

Barely noticeable if you only have 1

#

dumbpepe also the only way to somewhat solve the focus issue is to have a true timestream weapon

#

And that won’t completely resolve it

#

Breeze is scam yourself for less damage, even if that means less focus issue

#

10% crit rate is too much to give up

hearty ether
astral tendon
#

Yeah

hearty ether
#

cursed dg sink

astral tendon
#

Good luck getting 3

#

Dg is the secondary problem

#

I know it sounds crazy

#

But dg is the secondary problem in eu

hearty ether
#

supply of books i assume is

astral tendon
#

Doesn’t matter, even if you are rocking with 5mil dg

#

Yeah

#

There won’t be enough book for you to get 3 books even if you empty the market

hearty ether
#

you'd need 24 fragments to try and get 3 if ur lucky and manage to 1 shot transmute right

astral tendon
#

You need 100 fragments for around 20 clicks

#

So 300 fragments for 60, which should give you 3 but obviously that’s not how it works

#

I’m 1/100+ on leg boxes

#

Same 5%

#

Let’s say the % is real, 300 pages is 75 books, there are no 75 trash book for anyone to buy in eudumbpepe

hearty ether
astral tendon
#

No pity is like that

#

Ofc lucky ppl will get it with less clicks

hearty ether
#

just wonder if its worth even with the supply

astral tendon
#

It is if you have transcendent weapon, every gear on new region purple level and awakened mushin core, cos at that point this is the only thing that can give you meaningful damage

#

Even after the cd nerf, 3 book would still yield probably 15% something overall damage

#

This new book tilted me a lot tbhdumbpepe

#

I’d be less tilted if it is like 20/25%

#

5%? Fck NC soft

hearty ether
#

i cant 😭 5% is evil

astral tendon
#

dumbpepe the only over odd stuff I have in this game is the 5 leg card fuse

#

I think I’m in 50/50 for the Jin/hong card

#

Got 3 Jin/hong from 6 fuses

#

Everything else is under odds

#

And a lot of them under by a lot

#

Cozzydo I don’t think this new book will be the one that I will not be under odd

#

Uh I 2 tapped mystic +10 yesterday that’s also over odds

#

Guess that count

hearty ether
#

luckyyyy

loud hinge
twin wren
#

😭

astral tendon
#

What is coming

#

I don’t think nc is brain dead enough to drop another western server

#

Look at the steam incident

#

Server dont have enough ppl for wb for like what more than a month

#

And even after that it was 45 mins fightpepehehe

wraith sage
astral tendon
#

I mean game balance wise yes they are, money wise they won’t fall for the same trap twice right?

pastel vapor
#

gold servers aren't something new

twin wren
#

NA WTS Purple Heavenly Slasher X2

odd dagger
#

why did rownen take away our class sales channel

twin wren
#

wdym?

gilded thistle
silk beacon
gilded thistle
#

Whaa?

gilded thistle
hearty ether
#

does any1 have a summary/overview of the BM buffs we're hopefully getting after today's patch?

vale harness
gilded thistle
#

Just a little

#

been stuck for few days so kinda slowed down

dry bane
#

or this even rougher one here

winged reef
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These should be the buffs from November iirc

gilded thistle
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For kr yeah, we supposedly get them tomorrow

hearty ether
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thank yewww

astral tendon
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The whole point of the other one is no one spam the topic out of the view

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With the activity of this chat, you might as well just post selling advertisements here

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Less channels to look at and ban ppl on dc

scenic badge
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WTS NA - PMO

winged reef
languid stratus
gilded thistle
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yup

languid stratus
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Why they hate punct so much ?

gilded thistle
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beats me, don't have to worry about it anymore

languid stratus
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You swapped or quit?

astral tendon
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Probably quit haven’t seen him online for a while

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I mean I’m online like 2-3 times a week already

languid stratus
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Quite sad that whales are quitting, but it isn’t without reason

gilded thistle
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To hell with this bottomless pit

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and all they do is spit in our faces

languid stratus
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True

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Game itself is beautiful but the way players are treated is horrible

gilded thistle
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i still have mixed feelings though

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only because like you said, the game is good but yeah, lower life forms running it

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koreans....

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So smart yet so stupid

astral tendon
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dumbpepe I’m gonna get my awaken core and turn it in to a weekly game

gilded thistle
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raid log at best

astral tendon
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Think I can raid for a while without any progressions

gilded thistle
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well your immediate progression is gear and that comes from raid

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so you chilling

astral tendon
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dumbpepe the worst I become a buff bot

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dumbpepe 10 seconds drain buff to everyone every min

languid stratus
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Hm bless system, grinding progression (donate to play) and drop rates which are terrible are killing this game

gilded thistle
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Drop rates would be okay if we could grind enough but nope, stamina system on an mmo game

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on pc

astral tendon
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Tbh even that 0.1-0.2% is a bit too low

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You have 1 chance every 5/6 mins even if you farm non stop

languid stratus
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Yup, so lower drop rate but no blessing system or bless with higher rates

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Game became casino online where you gamble on everything

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Every upgrade, event is a gamba

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Players don’t need much, just any perspective to progress

gilded thistle
wooden rain
gilded thistle
winged reef
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If it isn't mr doomer himself

wooden rain
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doom is eternal

uneven kernel
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I see there is already updated info in YAST

odd dagger
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oh

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does yast get stuff from QA server or what

silk beacon
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arent u guys excited

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left my char at the dummy

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cant wait to do a parse on it

astral tendon
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No

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dumbpepe I guess I’ll solo yeti tmr

silk beacon
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why

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u could have x5 ppl calling u sir king and your majesty instead

astral tendon
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dumbpepe gonna get a solo leg book drop, salvage and 1 tap the new 5% bullsh1t book

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Surely that’s the sequence to bait me spend more money

silk beacon
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ugh

astral tendon
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Haven’t got one of those for a while

silk beacon
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doubt there are enough books on eu

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to do that skill gm 48

astral tendon
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Slasher wise even 1 is usabledumbpepe

silk beacon
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well ye u do spam so fast