if u have no focus problems
#Blade Master
twin wren
silk beacon
than u have freedom most of the week, congratz KEKW
odd dagger
msp grind cant stop until i hit 16.3k to get carried in yeti
wraith sage
I think im about to hit a wall , full purp , almost 14k SF , but still out of top 20 in WB , leveling is a full job time and i dont have this time , im stuck in lvl 66 , no place in MSP to xp , no event enaf hourglasse , grind don't help bc blessing and all limitation in game , no leg soulshild , no leg skill , no leg stuff or weapon . lack of purpuse don't help to stay in game 7h a day .
gilded thistle
Some of those can be fixed if you're willing to spend money.
odd dagger
well u are never really gonna hit top 10 in bm easily, the class has too many tryhards 
gilded thistle
odd dagger
but idk about no placei n msp part, there is def some spots no one takes
i am almost always farming there for like 1hr daily
slim mortar
well weekends are hard to find a good spot but like 2 or 3 days ago msp was quite empty had like 4 camps for me aloneš
odd dagger
u could get upto like 17k sf without any leggy stuff or more
if u have time to grind
if u are dedicated enough, jst wake up early
and grind
astral tendon
bm no10 can be top 5 in a lot of classes wb wise
odd dagger
ya
hearty ether
I think im about to hit a wall , full purp , almost 14k SF , but still out of to...
stuff like ping etc matters too for WB, most of the top 20 is alrdy lvl 70+ too
odd dagger
is there any non puncture lvl 75/76 BM , Do yall have like 90-95% crit rate in wb.
astral tendon
I have 95% and Iām lv74
odd dagger
ppuncture really be playing without having their 25% crit rate advantage
astral tendon
apparently not bt
Someone told me, in bt hs/lightning have around 30% crit, puncture only has 40%
Reason is you are missing so much, your lmb buff and puncture 48 stack buff are almost never fully stacked
And there is an inbuilt 10 sec cd for detect for the recent kr patch
astral tendon
Is so bullsh1t that bm crit buff is on hit
And lightning bd crit buff is when used
It would be fine if bm buff is also when used
But no
So puncture is actually also giga crap
gilded thistle
storm swallow
Will BM get another buff before the raid release?
slim mortar
wraith sage
Oh the lvl 67 is sooo good , finely in the top 20.
wooden rain
top 1 only 1.26%, that's more BMs alive than i'd expect
can you guys quit faster so they release BnS China here instead
astral tendon
more player in general than expected
wraith sage
the Top 1 destro did 0,795% so !
and i think the top Summ also did less then 1% something about 0.95 or 0.97 .
odd dagger
suprisingly for a broken class, Destro has only mild whales
wooden rain
People were saying it was a dead class and dead market a while ago
Another balance update comes and the tables will flip again
But you already knew that
twin lark
inb4 punct gets giga buffed and those HS start switching back
vague estuary
anyone who's selling purple searing slash?
azure moth
Make light great again
isnt it greate now tho ?
silk beacon
Na, not enought compared to other builds
And if u compare bm in general with certain classes is just xdding
astral tendon
end game bm is all relatively the same, there is no build clearly better than other build
If we exclude pierce as a build
Fire has lower dps compare to the other 3 but has ez access to searing slash as part of the build to make up for it
Puncture/ hs also have the option to use it but itās not optimal for damage for both build
And itās all sh1t compare to most of the other classes
astral tendon
Only wl and sin are on similar situation
primal hound
Im absolutely sick of puncture
at this point it's just QoL I could care less about being giga dmg except for wb but just having aoe by playing hs makes your mental so much better
especially when running garden and msp
hybrid goblet
kek
night galleon
gilded thistle
Did you get the slasher?
night galleon
Now I understand why HS 75k+, ty
night galleon
Did you get the slasher?
no
odd dagger
you coulda sold some of those and bought more trashes
hybrid willow
Now I understand why HS 75k+, ty
understand nothing, its just rng, all spell have same price if you start like that
night galleon
understand nothing, its just rng, all spell have same price if you start like th...
The price doesn't matter, HS never not on sale.
astral tendon
Assuming someone is selling it
Getting puncture 4 times is something i didnt expect
I rolled way more, and I got puncture 2 times in total
astral tendon
kek
Ppl can make mistakes when they are young you know
And this dt turned into 3 fragment
Didnāt want to even be useful before it dies
hybrid goblet
I understand you, the same thing happens to me with my blue books
astral tendon
especially when running garden and msp
Msp different is quite noticeable
primal hound
Im just waiting for prices to drop
i sold trash honed slash for 120k
back in sept
or late aug
wraith sage
the new patch in 11 nov , haw many BM have already clean the current one ? the yeti den
i think in EU we have only 9 or 10 BM with + 16300 SF and only 4 with + 19k SF .
wooden rain
can't you just check dps meter leaderboards
odd dagger
no, cause not everyone participates
wooden rain
my memory doesn't serve but i thought it was an opt-out thing so most people would have ended up there
also playing a numbers game without wanting to display your numbers seems like backwards logic kekw, what else does this game have going for it
odd dagger
what do u mean
u cant even see more than 9 people in the meter anyway
all top 9 on stackedday are over 16.3k
some people simply cant do wb everyday cause of time constraints
i have skipped a lot of wb on sf part 1
wooden rain
i quit around the time the leaderboards became a thing so i didn't know specifics
works quite a bit differently from what i expected
š¤ actually are you sure we're talking about the same thing, i said dps meter leaderboards
Wb has nothing to do with it
odd dagger
ah that yea, its gone
also would doubt it would be relevent enough when a lot of these 16.3+ are jst f2ps
astral tendon
Bm is one of the more populated class id say
Alone side with bd
Even tho the class is sh1t
wraith sage
we have waay more than 10 with 16300
Eu or NA ?
astral tendon
Eu
wraith sage
i don't think we have 20 16300 BM in Eu ,
i will tray to find them all in this weekend
astral tendon
i can count 15 from the wb ranking in the past few days
around 20 seems pretty accurate
definitely not only 10 since all top 10 on most days are above 16300
wraith sage
2 for 20 , 1 for 10 , i think im wrong
astral tendon
the game has less than 1k player in total.
wraith sage
Nice FM, Summ and Destro , all 3 will get buffed in the new patch !
twin lark
This chat has fallen from its formal glory
astral tendon
yeah
neo chat now has similar activity
compare to the good old day of bm chat
use to be neo chat crowded, here you can have normal conversation
gilded thistle
hidden pawn
Imagine developers actually cared about their games im 2025
twin lark
astral tendon
Where is the trash book came from lol
gilded thistle
I had fragments left, got rid of extra stone slash to reroll :3
felt lucky
took 1 reroll :3
wooden rain
Imagine developers actually cared about their games im 2025
Don't act like BnS devs ever did
At least not after the game was released in the west
loud hinge
30 stone is kinda useless for puncture
is searing worth to try? 
twin lark
Do i need winter sword to upgrade or can it be any weap?
Looks like any to me
but idk
silk beacon
Any works
twin lark
nice
twin lark
I can activate any of those 2, but if i replace detec lv7 with lv9, ill lose a lot of CD
What should i do?
If i replace tenacity with the one im using, i don't lose a thing but i don't gaing higher detect dmg
astral tendon
i mean detect dont give you damage right.
the hp recover is almost worthless and its not drain.
the 2 crit, it is there doesnt matter the detect level
twin lark
So, what should i do?
Just switch tenacity then?
I think tenacity, since it gives accu too
odd dagger
personally wont get either,
there are better sets
u should save ken and gen for the 4 piece set from silver frost
which gives crit rate acc and crit dmg
odd dagger
u dont need yeti
twin lark
Fck it, i'll get tenacity
odd dagger
u can get it from most of the new selectors
twin lark
It's just 100 extra cd anyway, not like it would matter that much
astral tendon
All those sets are not a huge upgrade compared to the mw one
Iād rather save them and see what you get later
odd dagger
it matters lmao, esp that one u wan unlock is a 5 bubble set
twin lark
You're talking from a whale pov
odd dagger
those stats for 5 bubble is just ass
twin lark
It's ok
odd dagger
why do u even want tenacity
astral tendon
5 cost for that is a bit š©
twin lark
Extra stats
odd dagger
put some other set which gives crit dmg
BM is a crit boosted class
u need sources of crit dmg from raw stats
astral tendon
You rather keep the big gun, big gun is great tbh
Not many sets are more efficient than it
odd dagger
if u are f2p, its even more reason to not waste cards on garbage sets
twin lark
put some other set which gives crit dmg
You think i'm a whale that fuses cards all the time? i have a billion cards that i will never fuse and i don't run latest dungeons anyway
I'll never get op sets
astral tendon
I mean if you are in that mind, then you can get what you want, but typically if you donāt have a lot of cards, is more important to use the purple card on something that is better than letās say a green set
odd dagger
actually can u show ur entire bubble.
astral tendon
There is a 3 cost green set gives 201 cd
For example
But I guess to a degree is fine to waste Ken and gen/asura cos those are not in any of them leg card set
twin lark
actually can u show ur entire bubble.
Just go search my char, my pics are tiny
odd dagger
im not NA
astral tendon
We are eu
astral tendon
Uh tbh in this case probably get rid of the 5 cost tenacity set with something else
Other stuffs donāt need to touch them
odd dagger
and remove that screaming ones
there is a 3 bubble onrush
which gives more crit dmg
astral tendon
Unless he has better 3/3/3 sets
twin lark
there is a 3 bubble onrush
Bruh, don't you think if i had that set i wouldn't be using it already?
odd dagger
u dun have this?
twin lark
but that's caca
odd dagger
no it gives u same crit dmg
for 1 less bubble
onrush lvl jst adds tiny bit of flat dmg
which is whatever
twin lark
I actually have 1 orb slot available
I can use that tenacity set, i need that accu too
This one's insane
astral tendon
the true š³ set
twin lark
I wasn't lucky, i stacked chests for a month
odd dagger
it doesnt matter
its insanely low odds unless u are top 10
stacking doesnt make ur luck go up or anything
hidden pawn
Soon there will only be 10
twin lark
stacking doesnt make ur luck go up or anything <:peeb:1401773715334893662>
It's less painful though
twin lark
Opening daily to not get it, fcks you mentally
odd dagger
im here sitting on a 23 ap set cause i cant even get a green card for 32 ap set
twin lark
I was using this one before getting dragon
It's pretty much free from BP
I only needed one card from bp though
odd dagger
not a big fan of this one
aside from 3 set ap, other stat are mid
was considering it but went with sleepyhead and unwanted immortality
twin lark
Do card sets increase SF?
hoary halo
Do card sets increase SF?
Yes
twin lark
Damn
scenic badge
dont matter what set you use, soon no more restriction
odd dagger
does facetanking lv 70 msp get easier.
twin lark
dont matter what set you use, soon no more restriction
wdym?
scenic badge
@twin lark think we wont rely on 20 dot system soon
twin lark
What makes you think that?
valid cradle
i mean detect dont give you damage right.
Detect is really good now if you miss attacks because of the guaranteed crits
But sounds like it'll have a 10s cooldown on BT patch š
astral tendon
It will, my point is level doesnāt matter
Detect lv1 is practically the same as lv11 dps wise
astral tendon
But sounds like it'll have a 10s cooldown on BT patch š
Thatās also the reason why ppl hitting 30-40% crit in bt and bm canāt stack crit buff cos missing so much
valid cradle
Detect lv1 is practically the same as lv11 dps wise
Yeah true
valid cradle
Thatās also the reason why ppl hitting 30-40% crit in bt and bm canāt stack crit...
Some great design decisions were made there
astral tendon
Yeah, for some reason bm crit buff needs to be on hit
And bd crit buff is when used
So bd is 2 galaxies better in bt
valid cradle
They also have a ton of base accuracy
gilded thistle
What if we stack accuracy 
astral tendon
No amount of accuracy will help pass b1
valid cradle
And thats on the lowest level boss š
hidden pawn
Raids will kill the game even more at least in NA and eu
grand forge
guys get to 76 before even considering raiding
make sure you can at least enter the instance š¤£
odd dagger
next patch , u get about 9% exp per day if u can do upto yeti , 7% if u cant do yeti. 15 days per lvl at 70+ 
you get upto 2 levels for free by time bt hits.
grand forge
i plan on bein 77 before its out lmao
doing 1 mill exp a day isnt too hard reealistcally
should be well off before release
even farming 70 area at 600 exp/mob is still decent exp if you have a good enough loop
odd dagger
1mil is 3hrs?
grand forge
i do like 400-500k in msp a day then the rest from dailies
astral tendon
I get 350 ish for small and 850 ish for big
odd dagger
4hrs for me, hopefully i gets faster as i level up.
grand forge
and then depending on how many yeti runs i do
astral tendon
280% ofc
grand forge
š¤£ OHH
odd dagger
big spawn
astral tendon
The actual yeti is 39k for the end boss, 2.7k for small boss
grand forge
yeah tbh after 75 msp kinda irrelevent for exp imo just use it for gold
most of ur exp will be from dailies and yeti
odd dagger
is it?
astral tendon
Hence my 100 hourglass
odd dagger
its still good
astral tendon
Will finally be useful
grand forge
its still good yeah but the grind is long...
odd dagger
i dont think lv 70 falls off that much until 77
astral tendon
It falls off pretty bad
odd dagger
800+ per axe/captain is still relatively faster than any other source of exp
grand forge
well 75 almost triples the amount of exp u need for 76 too
odd dagger
its what
grand forge
from 4.6 mill to over 11 mill
odd dagger
20k exp min
also aion 2 coming up soon. im not tryharding too much on exp now if im gonna switch games.
grand forge
yea honestly msp is just a gold farm lol
were soft capped at like 77 pretty much
no exp progression after that :P wonder what theyll do to help ppl reach 80 in kr
odd dagger
ya u gotta be crazy to go above 77
grand forge
or mayve it just isnt intended
odd dagger
i dont think anything
raven is last content of sf
solak will have waay higher exp gain rate
and probably lvl cap increase
didnt 58+ take a long time to hit in mw
but SSG/Lab were 59/60 mobs
similar to RK
astral tendon
No kr team touched raven king yet
Ppl wipe at the mini boss before sword and shield general
Cos not enough dps
odd dagger
tbf
its a progression raid
i think they intended it to slowly go up to rk
its just a content that exists for people to play until new region.
grand forge
bt most likely gonna be relevent for a long time if they intend us to go to +10 white light gear
plus soul cores
odd dagger
yea
grand forge
leggy books
valid cradle
didnt 58+ take a long time to hit in mw
Moonwater exp was pretty steady until lunar meadow
Some rare players farmed exile for exp
I would guess that days per level (without lunar meadow) right now isnt too far off from those days
Until 75 ofc
odd dagger
ya pre lunar meadow it was like 3-4 weeks per lvl
u get 76 in 4 weeks
77 is 2 months of dailies only
azure moth
which one i should use
odd dagger
thats hard , one has good psyche but 2 mantra slot
both needs to be rerolled since belt is one of those gears where sub stats scales harder than ap
astral tendon
The 2 mantra one will be dumped at some point
You are greifing yourself in the long term to upgrade something with 2 mantra to later stage, unless you have the option to use it as a fodder at some point
Which means either purple +0 or yellow +0
wraith sage
Use hou cost less , don't up or invest on it ,just use the one with lower cost until you find a good bleu silver frost belt , rerol and up the bleu one you will get far better stat on long term .
i have the bad idea to up all mi moonwater legi to prurp silver frost , and just after i discover that a bleu SF rereled and uped to purpule give more sub stat that what i have .
wooden rain
Ingrish
wraith sage
Ingrish
there is more than 200 language in the world ,and the English is not even the 4th for me , so .... š®
primal hound
1/11 tries
wooden rain
there is more than 200 language in the world ,and the English is not even the 4t...
Well it's up to you but of those 200 there's 1 that the majority of international communities use
odd dagger
Chinese
astral tendon
when can we chat in Chinese
silk beacon
Xie xie
wraith sage
Ah yes, the international community uses English.
Because nothing says fair communication like forcing everyone to argue world peace in the language that canāt even decide how āthough,ā āthrough,ā and āthoughtā are pronounced.
Itās beautiful, really , a global effort built on mutual misunderstanding, politely disguised as diplomacy
Still puncture and DT need to be Aoe skills
wooden rain
Ah yes, the international community uses English.
Because nothing says fair comm...
If you want to talk politics you can go to the nearest mental hospital, i have no agendas. I look, i see the language people are using, and it works.
wraith sage
chill dude is a joke . to close the a (...) im here to speak about BM , but you bring the english story from no were
hearty ether
Ah yes, the international community uses English.
Because nothing says fair comm...
i agree with the conclusion of dt and puncture needing to be aoe šš
twin lark
Ah yes, the international community uses English.
Because nothing says fair comm...
wdym we can't decide how to pronounce it?
odd mantle
tomayto tomahto š
buoyant jewel
With leggy selector potentially coming in play, is it silly not to swap to slasher or is puncture still good
loud hinge
how much is this worth ya?
rapid jolt
currently 30kļ½40k
primal hound
wts Gold searing slash NA
languid stratus
With leggy selector potentially coming in play, is it silly not to swap to slash...
Kr still playing punct, we have more viable builds thatās it
primal hound
Both builds do good dmg, slasher tho is undeniably a huge QOL
because it has no focus issues, plus it's a ranged aoe
so you can still hit moving targets, whereas puncture you can stab the air quiet often if the boss moves
primal hound
I play puncture but tbh swapping to hs is a nightmare
not only are the purple books super high in demand it's also like 2-3x the price of purple puncture
so even if you do get a legendary slasher, you're going to be on the market looking for slashers for over 2 weeks.
Hell even more prob
astral tendon
in term of pure brain dead.
tbh puncture is more brain dead
slasher at very least, if you are using hmb or cc or doing some mech, you need to get the max boost back.
is easy but its an extra step
puncture you just go back and hold macro
primal hound
puncture also requires low ping
i think slasher you can literally play it mid to high ping cus all ur doing is holding down rmb
astral tendon
that part is true, slasher is alright with high ping
odd dagger
good ping and good macro
astral tendon
auto gcd bias help on slasher
primal hound
im lucky i have 16-17ms
astral tendon
if you have sh1t ping
primal hound
so i stay puncture, easier on my wallet too since half my punctures are bound
languid stratus
Sadly swapping to hs will be expensive rn
I probably wouldnāt afford it even if I would sell leggy punct Xd
odd dagger
woah fatal hit me to
loud hinge
Even if you got leg HS, you will not be able to fill up purple ones for the rest due to high demand build
Btw, how much is the leg DT worth rn ya?
languid stratus
Thatās true, nearly impossible to gather 7-8 hs
wraith sage
Hello , what happen in the game were all this legi books come from ? pls
odd dagger
queen box in f10
primal hound
Btw, how much is the leg DT worth rn ya?
Right now main skills are hovering 45-60k depends on how popular the build is
trash books are hovering 28k-32k atm
HS is 50-55k atm
DT should be 45-50k imo
Punctures 45-50k also imo
next month if the same boxes drop
you can expect probably another price cut
book prices basically got cut in half since 2 days ago
subtle grove
astral tendon
trash books are hovering 28k-32k atm
thatās the on f5 price
Realistically trash book today is between 20-25
they are theyāre for a while and then get bought
primal hound
havent been on since last night but if they dropped that much
that's crazy
all from a 1% box
odd dagger
next month we should also hopefully get that 20k selector
so it really gonna drop for trash books
scenic badge
WTB> Legend Thunder Drake Slash N.A. PMO
wraith sage
i see a lot of player lvl 45 with no gears at all or only green 1275 SF , drop the legi boxs , i see 4 this last hour , what is happen ??!
wraith sage
but whay ? you can do the same on the main acount , whay you need a second new acount to gambel ?
odd dagger
new accounts
not new char
u arent locked to buy these boxes with dgs iirc?
so they jst charge on new account buy box
sell the gold and u get dg back
repeat
scenic badge
You need level 55 to redeem gold
primal hound
yea literally make a new acc
and just buy
no one cares about 300g if they hit the gold book
scenic badge
Thereās still the 3 day wait for the gems no?
scenic badge
Huhh
primal hound
if you spend it on ncsoft store you can use it instantly
so bp/hajoon
can be used instantly
if ur buying it
primal hound
misinformation
scenic badge
Time to swipe even more then
š
I coulda just bought a trash one from someone by now
I spent so much already on alts lmao
scenic badge
Ohh
primal hound
anniversary bound gold box
primal hound
assuming it's reoccurring like hajoons yea
scenic badge
Damn
primal hound
book prices droped by 50% overnight
ppl were still buying trash books for 70k the night before patch
now it's 20-25k lol
scenic badge
I just want tds
primal hound
that's considered trash book
scenic badge
And then I can stop spending on the damn game
primal hound
so u can get one for 20-25
dapper juniper
WTS NA (trash book)
wooden rain
@winged reef it's your time
gilded thistle
winged reef
<@121018603666407424> it's your time
Time for what? I donāt play anymore
wicked plank
WTS Legendary HS NA DM me
potent ether
<:ecksdee:276102927909781505>
Great stats boost
potent ether
You wouldn't miss anymore
astral tendon
Especially when they nerfed detect
slim mortar
wts eu 
silk beacon
Time for what? I donāt play anymore
Hop on president
wooden rain
Rip, right when his legendary becomes affordable and build potentially doesn't suck
winged reef
It hasnāt sucked on live for like a decade, itās nothing new. Itād just be higher numbers and back to doing the same dailies every day
gilded thistle
gilded thistle
wooden rain
It hasnāt sucked on live for like a decade, itās nothing new. Itād just be highe...
See i could've said that half a year ago
languid stratus
Will bm get any buff or just they will buff all other classes?
vernal dust
bm got buffed, just other classes got a bit more spices
slim mortar
guyss would you say tds is way better than dt? was thinking about swapping builds
vernal dust
IMO TDS is only good if you have the new sacred mystic badge
DT is better if you have 30+ stacks
DT+ES hybrid is better for single book and/or less than 30 stack
HS is better at 48+ stack
slim mortar
IMO TDS is only good if you have the new sacred mystic badge
yeah i got it
thank you for answer:)
was thinking about HS but im f2p sooo it would be pain for me to get any books
vernal dust
good luck
slim mortar
thank u
languid stratus
Yeah, even tho punct is considered best skill, it doesnāt feel like this honestly, or Iām too noob to think itās broken with constant problems with focus
And all other skills than pierce/punct got buffed some way sadge
astral tendon
is good because of 25% in build crit rate which will be there for majority of the fight, and with enough crit focus will be less and less of an issue. with fast attack speeds (with good macro and low ping should be 6 hits per seconds)
if you do not have good ping, good macro, good crit rates, and cant achive 6 hits per soconds, is not good
but in the end is still the best build 48 stacks or below
primal hound
I had the worst experience as puncture recently
Doing yeti at lvl 67 with a 91-93% hit rate, perma 0 focus
if you don't crit or if you miss, it feels so bad
odd dagger
prolly feels bad with HS to unless leggy
analog yarrow
Main concern for puncture build is the lvl differences between characters and the mobs. Base crit rate is low for those new leggy dungeons, even though you have 25% build in crit rate buff.
astral tendon
Main concern for puncture build is the lvl differences between characters and th...
detect is nerfed
in kr, puncture bm cant even keep 25% crit rate
cos tehy are missing so much
and for what ever reason, bm crit buff is applied on hit
rather than when used, like ligthning bd
odd dagger
time to build accuracy
odd dagger
welp i guess ill just keep my acc cdmg soul shield instead of rerolling it
astral tendon
so its only free if it hits
even 5k wont get you 100% accuracy in bt i think, is just less annoying
and funny enough hs rely on accuracy the least
gilded thistle
astral tendon
maybe ligthning is also fine, but it is more focus hungry
pure fire maybe as well, tho both of these have issues on tab cd reduction only apply on hit, also all the effect from tab are also on hit
which if you missed, gg wp
astral tendon
<:megaSideye:1171565672623505418>
im waiting for you to roll another 4 hs
i need 4 more and im done
gilded thistle
im waiting for you to roll another 4 hs
soon
gilded thistle
eh after a certain point the bonus per book goes to like 5% instead of 9-12
but if you can why not?
astral tendon
every book is like +3.5%
i may just slot in some purple utility books
currently i have these 3
maybe slot in another kd
astral tendon
litghning draw?
gilded thistle
yeh
astral tendon
imagine
astral tendon
beastbog terrorist
astral tendon
z, 4 bye bye see you after a revive loading screen where you may have a fatal error
gilded thistle
hearty ether
astral tendon
Free books now
languid stratus
if you do not have good ping, good macro, good crit rates, and cant achive 6 hit...
rn i configured it to 120/120/400-440
And recently hit gm 48
But still focus is issue
languid stratus
in kr, puncture bm cant even keep 25% crit rate
So HS is the only way to go for bm now?
astral tendon
But still focus is issue
By good macro
I mean one of the pixel reading Marco where you only rmb when either lmb or tab crit
Everything else is sh1t macro for puncture
astral tendon
So HS is the only way to go for bm now?
If you whale hard yes
If you compare same stack strength everything is viable at certain stack, even fire
Other than hs tbh
Hs need to be at higher stack to do same amount of single target dps
tho its aoe
languid stratus
Well im not whale, and i do have the macro you're tellin about
Guess im too noob for handling focus xd
odd mantle
its fine with high crit but wastes focus on higher level content
modest epoch
hello everyone - looking for a Lightning BM Build - what skill books do i need?
grave hawk
hello everyone - looking for a Lightning BM Build - what skill books do i need?
depends on your badge
pallid hedge
Free?
rain nimbus
Where was this when I was playing
wooden rain
you done with bpsr yet
odd dagger
dam leggy stone only 20k
rain nimbus
you done with bpsr yet
Took the name DarkMagician and then quit
twin wren
:O
quiet otter
If i walk to the side while attacking, macro seems to be more fluid. Is this a real thing or just copium?
wooden rain
Took the name DarkMagician and then quit
Bruh
vague estuary
WTB SEARING SLASH PM ME
wraith sage
If i walk to the side while attacking, macro seems to be more fluid. Is this a r...
IM on DT build even with no macro i have the same filling , the animation are more fluid wen i step right and left while spaming DT.
quiet otter
At least i know it's not just me
hybrid goblet
At least i know it's not just me
This is not a game.
uneven kernel
probably
coarse sun
actual pierce or still puncture?
uneven kernel
Puncture
gilded thistle
Is that stone slash additional damage on badge or am i tripping?
gilded thistle
uneven kernel
both stone, and searing on badge, and for Stone slash, GM18 5x 5% CritD, and on GM48 50% Crit Dmg for 6 sec
oh, HS translate is not full, here is whole
hearty ether
nice so they buffed everything thts alrdy relatively strong
uneven kernel
but no Base dmg increase for Puncture (but max boost on legendary), other will get it
gilded thistle
i don't like the additional based on ap vs just additional damage
Where's Nanayaaa
@astral tendon
vague estuary
Are those buff?
hearty ether
dt still not aoe, trash update 
vague estuary
dt still not aoe, trash update <:bns_bursting:1198525065281671249> <:bns_nervous...
FRRRRT
I love dt but they abbandon that build
hearty ether
š
minor roost
no DT buff?
uneven kernel
it is
vague estuary
Idk
uneven kernel
minor roost
woah big buff
uneven kernel
well, isnt +0.5s for black dragon every 2 hit like "almost" infinite BD? well, or not, its 400ms, i though its 300ms
minor roost
wonder how much is the base dmg increase
grand forge
fire bm buffs?
scenic badge
Wtb bm stuff NA pmo
minor roost
yes fire bm buffs
grand forge
so are these like additional GM effects or reworks of the current ones
minor roost
wait, they made puncture have some giga burst.
5.3x AP bonus on whirling scorge from 1.5x
odd mantle
o;
faint cloud
reallyļ¼
minor roost
next patch with bt prolly
quiet otter
puncture got 140%
https://tenor.com/view/memes-donald-trump-meme-donald-trump-trump-meme-meme-gif-10861228265273156770
Good thing i dind't switch builds
Was about to
minor roost
also 520% ap for 5 sec during V
gilded thistle
languid stratus
We still didnāt get 530% from 150 and now we are getting flat bonus, how nice
Maybe punct will come back
quiet otter
It just says additional dmg
That's not a lot though
I'll trade any dmg increase for aoe
minor roost
oh just saw that slasher black dragon ap boost went from 1x to 3x, godamn. sunstroke might be a must have now.
probably also a lot more affordable now without insane stacks by just having other black dragon sources instead of gm stacks
scenic badge
slasher black dragon? what
minor roost
gm 30 boost from black dragon
scenic badge
any GM skill gets 30 boost from BD?
minor roost
no, its a gm 30 slasher effect
its always been there
š¤
it just got increased in dmg
scenic badge
are you talking about searing slash?
quiet otter
puncture got 140%
You mean the badge?
minor roost
are u guys even seeing the same things
gm 30 puncture adds 5.3x ap during puncture when whirling surge active.
gm 30 also adds 0.45x ap on puncture.
gm 48 adds 0.95x ap on puncture.
Total 1.4x ap multiplier on puncture and 5.3x ap during whiling surge as additional.
quiet otter
It's additional dmg
Where is that info? everything is still the same in YAST latest KR patch
minor roost
its the same thing
additional dmg is ap multiplier
cause yast isnt updated
its just patch notes
not update
its still maint on server
quiet otter
150% additional dmg isn't that much
quiet otter
Let's say you have 1.5AP 150% of that is just 225 dmg
minor roost
..
quiet otter
If you have 1.5k
quiet otter
No bro, that's not how it works
minor roost
that is how it works
quiet otter
Well, ok
minor roost
every gm effect is additional ap multipliers
quiet otter
Additional dmg is not the same as base ap
minor roost
it is ..
additional 150% of attack power
is same s hit as 1.5x more ap multiplier on same skill
quiet otter
Yeah and like i said, if you have 1500 AP 150% of that is just 225 extra dmg, that's almost the same
Idk how you're calculating it
quiet otter
It's just extra dmg, your AP won't increase or something
quiet otter
You're saying AP will multiply
minor roost
that is what we call it in mmos ...
quiet otter
11.8
quiet otter
I know but it won't go from 6.5 to 11.8
minor roost
???
after buff it does 5.3x during whirling surge
instead of 1.5x
6.5 + 5.3 = 11.8
quiet otter
5.3 of additional dmg
minor roost
unless i failed math
quiet otter
Let's wait and see
minor roost
I quit
u dont even need to wait
u can already see the current value
right now its 6.5+1.5 = 8
quiet otter
That additional dmg only counts if you're a giga whale, for us mortals is like no change at all
scenic badge
we need lightning buff
minor roost
there is lightning buff
every spec is buffed
this probably brings sin/kfm/bm upto wtd fm/destro levels of dmg
slasher is still gonna be stronger but puncutre gonna burst harder.
quiet otter
They buffed everything up so ppl can clear BT
If they ever release WR, i'm jumping ships
winged reef
Look at all these green profile pictures
twin wren
uneven kernel
On Yast, base stats and items updated, but GM not for now
Updated sacred badge
+105% for puncture, +95% HS, +125% dt, +145% tds, and 2340% on stone and searing slash
quiet otter
105% puncture is what we already have
fickle salmon
+105% is an addition
quiet otter
Current badge already has 105%
analog yarrow
105+105
quiet otter
I only see 1
grand forge
105+105=210 quick maths ez
wooden rain
Average bns player
gilded thistle
sleek tendon
first time here to see ppl react to the buff and all i can see is ragebait smh
silver moth
shadow field
wooden rain
how is it that when this chat is about to die several never-seen-before people appear every time
fallow wind
Blade and Soulless
uneven kernel
For DT, they increased 18 and 48 GM effect a little more than they wrote in patch notes. For GM18 its 50% additional, not 40%, and for GM48 its 100% additional, not 80%. Other builds are like in patch notes
silk beacon
For DT, they increased 18 and 48 GM effect a little more than they wrote in patc...
light gets a big buff aswell no?
uneven kernel
Yes
silk beacon
š
uneven kernel
Buffed base skill, buffed GM effects, buffed Stone Slash, and buffed Sacred badge will result in massive improvement for light build also
silk beacon
my time to shine, another month to wait ig
worn rapids
Hi, which priorities to up supreme force?
Upgrade of acc?
I cant lvling well, cz working hour
winged reef
The damage improves but the game is the same
minor roost
Hi, which priorities to up supreme force?
Upgrade of acc?
for acc, they are about the same.
the ones with ap is slightly higher
maybe by 1 point per lvl
valid cradle
For the most part you just focus on whatever accessory is the most affordable
Upgrading mantra to purple is pretty good for force
Insignias and cards when you can
worn rapids
okie thanks guys
languid stratus
So for punct buffs, do they remove %crit for ap or just straight give more ap in addition to crit?
wooden rain
The damage improves but the game is the same
has been from launch
languid stratus
Gosh thatās crazy
uneven kernel
and 210% dmg in sacred badge instead 105% for Puncture
uneven kernel
Looks like nice buff overall for BM builds
quiet otter
quiet otter
Ohh
languid stratus
What is maximum boost? Itās instant cast right?
quiet otter
I guess so
quiet otter
Does this mean, there's no crit requirement to boost? cause that would be insane
languid stratus
Probably
uneven kernel
but thats only for Legendary, not Heroic
languid stratus
Glad got one, lucky me
analog yarrow
Does this mean, there's no crit requirement to boost? cause that would be insane
If that, it will be fair for dt become aoe
quiet otter
I'm not paying 80k for leggy punct
languid stratus
I'm not paying 80k for leggy punct
Eu under 40k Xd
uneven kernel
If that, it will be fair for dt become aoe<:bns_bursting:1198525065281671249>
probably they want 1 aoe and 1 single builds for both Draw and Basic stances
They showed that they don't want DT to be AOE by taking away sunstroke dmg from sacred badge
minor roost
Like rn we have to crit with lmb tab to activate it
wait, i didnt even notice that
thats a massive buff
wonder if there is a play now where u just stack puncture all the way and swap cyclone for breeze
languid stratus
wonder if there is a play now where u just stack puncture all the way and swap c...
Cyclone still gives +10% crit
But now every rotation you will use puncture
Not after both crits
minor roost
yea i know trade off would be the crit %
but now that you are gonna puncture everytime
u might run into focus issue?
languid stratus
1 -> 2 focus on gm 18
minor roost
esp in higher lvl content where crit is gonna be lower
thats jst after 5 uses
u consume 2 focus per puncture combo, 2.5 sec = 8 focus consumed.
I do feel infinitely spamming punctures with breeze is going to be pretty close to having cyclone.
quiet otter
yea i know trade off would be the crit %
I wouldn't trade CR for more dmg
Specially with BT coming soon
minor roost
cr is just more dmg
you dont need cr if u perma puncture
at that points its just a math question of whether if 10% cr gives u more dmg or never haivng to use focus skills gives you more dmg
quiet otter
You always need more CR, specially when they release new dungeons
There's never enough CR
odd mantle
if you can give up other focus abilities to stack more puncture maybe worth /shrug
cyclone block is alot of down time on the macro
languid stratus
Especially when purple is so bugged
quiet otter
cyclone block is alot of down time on the macro
I removed cyclone focus regen, i don't even use it anyway
And locked the skill too
loud hinge
I removed cyclone focus regen, i don't even use it anyway
Iād trade it for extra dmg once the skill got buffed
quiet otter
How much is leg punct rn?
languid stratus
How much is leg punct rn?
eu around 30k
quiet otter
Damn
minor roost
should be cheaper no? saw slasher at 34
languid stratus
Probably, there were none on the market yday so prices might change
languid stratus
Since a lot of people got their leggy and it literally flooded market yeah
loud hinge
should be cheaper no? saw slasher at 34
Either Slasher/DT/Punct is around 25~30k NA
quiet otter
10k and i can buy it
wooden rain
then it's time for a new book quality
quiet otter
Not really, they just know almost all KR players already have leg, so it's time to milk some more
minor roost
i think kr had similar boxes
cause after every maint , u see them open boxes and get lot of sh t
quiet otter
Would be nice to open leg boxes after every maint
quiet otter
Must be nice
wooden rain
Must suck slightly less*
slender pecan
WTB Ligtning Draw 2x purple
minor roost
whos selling 25k HS 
twin wren
š
I barely earn 1k
Need some advice
What are players crafting and selling nowadays?
minor roost
dunno, most of my earning is jst selling like 1hr 30 msp gold
a whole month of it can buy 1 leggy
craft kinda got ass now since only one that was superior to dg drop was SS psyche
but now there is naga king thats better
bronze seal
how much is purple puncture now in na?
quiet otter
500
languid stratus
nah ur joking right?
languid stratus
Eu 1,5k+ Xd
quiet otter
300
scenic badge
WTS> NA - PMO
silk beacon
wtb that but on eu X_X
scenic badge
damn tough luck,
twin wren
analog yarrow
WTS> NA - PMO
@dim summit
carmine acorn
this is good for puncture build? got it from my lvl 50 book
quiet otter
No
carmine acorn
https://yast.vercel.app/?subView=%22TraitView%22&p=%22NEOEU030925%22&class=%22Bl...
ty
which books should be stacked for gm
just puncture? or tab skill too
lunar slash
odd dagger
puncture only
wraith sage
Hello , i up mi SF to the yeti minimum yesterday , but i have no idea haw do deal with the yeti rotation , need advice for haw to use the HmB , if i can find a guide vids its will be great , pls help .
valid cradle
Sure, on level 45 bosses
odd dagger
same as always, pain and suffering
carmine acorn
are there a lot of bm on heavens reach o.o how's wb rankings
odd dagger
idk about NA but no matter how much i gear up i keep going down in EU
these queen box's didnt help, everyone and their mom has a leggy now
uneven kernel
New skill for BM on KR, "chance" to obtain when fuse 8 legendary skill book fragments
faint cloud
5% 20%?
rapid jolt
passive
quiet otter
Naughty
quiet otter
So this is a new build then
quiet otter
Another badge wtf
hidden pawn
Any bm on korea have it yet?
slim mortar
Any bm on korea have it yet?
hidden pawn
I want to see dps with 48 stacks haha probably insane i would assume?
slim mortar
Definetly insane haha
languid stratus
82xAP Base dmg is already crazy af
faint cloud
gilded thistle
slim mortar
gilded thistle
hidden pawn
Hes 48 stacks now haha
slim mortar
already? damn
slim mortar
wtf
quiet otter
I can see whales selling some main leggies to stack passive
dusty pagoda
do you have stream/youtube video of this guy?
odd dagger
@silk beacon did u dc to
hidden pawn
do you have stream/youtube video of this guy?
No someone linked it in neo chat i wish i did
silk beacon
<@208677813174140932> did u dc to
got big spyke
exitlag prevented the dc
only u dced
odd dagger
sad