Blade Master

[astral tendon]

such as me in a few weeks

[winged reef]

I forgot hs was ranged bm

[placid jolt]

[hearty ether]

whale

[twin lark]

💩

I could have upgraded 2 accs and added new primers by now

[solar python]

Tpugh luck bro

Spend some money

[odd dagger]

how did juju become a doomer

[west gust]

Hi everyone, i was last told to play puncture due to my very high ping, which has improved since, just wanted to check again before i open my purple selector if i should stick with puncture or play DT? i can hit dummies with DT till sunstroke resets black dragon.

[odd dagger]

whats ur ping

[west gust]

140-160 now

[odd dagger]

Then you should go slasher

Every other build is terrible at that ping

[west gust]

OK, thanks

is the slasher combo -> blinside(E) and then spam slasher?

[odd dagger]

Ya

Until u get 48 gm points ull need focus regen skills

Fissure, cyclone, falcon, breeze

Purple flock

[west gust]

is there any AOE spell for BM? other than lunar slash?

[odd dagger]

Slasher is aoe

[west gust]

Ooh

well that changes things

Can you also tell me the puncture build? i am gonna test both at blue and then open purple

[fickle salmon]

dont even bother, blue punc is unplayable because ur missing 15% cr and puncture is +1focus

[west gust]

So slasher it is? Thanks everyone

[odd dagger]

yes, as a high ping expert. You will not regret being slasher

[west gust]

haha, thanks

[astral tendon]

Shame that qol auto gcd bias disablement doesn’t work anymore

it randomly slow my slasher down every once in a while

[opal salmon]

does qol still work for you?

[astral tendon]

No

Wish it still does, auto gcd bias is crap for low ping player

It just slows you down for no reason to calculate the appropriate gcd every once in a while for 10 ish hits

[winged reef]

It still works for me

My ping is around 50 tho in game and fluctuates a bit

Luckily for lightning that’s enough since you can’t anicancel any faster

[astral tendon]

I have 14 and any sort of gcd adjustment is unnecessary and brings in more problems

[odd dagger]

How about u loan me ur leggy slashers

[twin lark]

WTB TDS

[gilded thistle]

[odd dagger]

[hidden pawn]

U going hs?

[astral tendon]

You can loan me 8 purple first

lol

[odd dagger]

then what am i supposed to do

[astral tendon]

sell me 8 and reinvest the money to the better puncture build

[odd dagger]

130 ms i do negative dmg with puncutre

[astral tendon]

Just move to Frankfurt

[tawdry yacht]

@astral tendonwtt purple x8 for leg 🙂

[astral tendon]

Obviously no

[green schooner]

Twins is this a win?

[hidden pawn]

@astral tendon u rerolling to hs?

[winged reef]

@gilded thistle Is it 10s of bd from 30GM stone slash or 16s

[gilded thistle]

10s

[winged reef]

Yea makes sense

[spiral silo]

Hello everyone, I have a question, do you know where I can get the new Soul badge?

[valid cradle]

Only by upgrading a virtuous 10 badge to silverfrost

[loud hinge]

Expecting 1000g cost in case you feel devastated (from 0)

[astral tendon]

When I have enough books

[hidden pawn]

Oh nice gl

[hearty ether]

u need like 6 leggy HS books to make it work no?

[astral tendon]

this will be 2 hs soon

trust

it came from 1 book

but then, i dont want to think about the gold spend

[gilded thistle]

We don't talk about that

[rapid jolt]

You can transmute one already

[astral tendon]

i mean

i have no gold

[winged reef]

That’s just one swipe away bro

[hearty ether]

sell leggy puncture to me then u can buy gold

[gilded thistle]

That one is mine

[rapid jolt]

is this a 2 fragments to 1 box event?

I don't understand korean

If so, you can wait for this event to become 4 leggy HS

[astral tendon]

at a set probability

that does not sound coll

cool

[somber kiln]

anyone getting "fatal error" crashes?

[twin lark]

So salvaging 1 leggy can give you 3 leggies after hat patch?

[twin lark]

https://youtu.be/OQ-nqDYfTOk

[silk beacon]

anyone knows that guy

[odd dagger]

[silk beacon]

1 more msp terrorist

must be elizabet's friend

unlucky

[odd dagger]

when do eu people sleep, i need a good spot for my daily 30mins

[silk beacon]

idk i was in a ch with some free spots

left coz that guy was just fcking all my spots up

go have fun with him

[odd dagger]

i want peak spots only

[odd dagger]

wtf bro touched me and i almost died

[gilded thistle]

[odd mantle]

is the goal for puncture to drop cyclone and lock it

the block one ofc

[silk beacon]

lemao that sent u to hospital

[twin lark]

Pretty much

[astral tendon]

ok

i need to fck off from puncture asap

[odd dagger]

[gilded thistle]

Yeah i had one in gardens a few minutes ago

i barely even moved

cba redoing it though

[astral tendon]

im in asura, by myself, stood still

[hearty ether]

is that with ahk?

[astral tendon]

id skip flowers with slasher also

[astral tendon]

well yeah, the one that check crit

tho for me personally mouse macro also dc

[loud hinge]

What is your ms?

[astral tendon]

14

[silk beacon]

just dont hit that much

kekw

[astral tendon]

oh god

hero has double the viewers

[twin lark]

NCsoft dreams for 10k+ views

[astral tendon]

I want to record a solo asura run and I dced 3 times during the process

Naively I thought it could not be worse than garden

[gilded thistle]

A few books away from being free of that bullpoop

[somber kiln]

So people leaving punc?

[twin lark]

Yes, list punct for 500dgs

[hearty ether]

heroes has a lot of brazilian streamers for some reason lol

[azure moth]

Are we gonna get the Gm for TDS next patch ?

[odd dagger]

That's what Ted is coping

[winged reef]

Imagine not getting it in 2 weeks and having to wait till end of November

I’d just quit neo tbh

[honest haven]

I think everyone is expecting it

[void ermine]

anyone have a starter build for bm? making an alt to play while i take a break from my main

[twin lark]

yeah go buy my book

[astral tendon]

The simplest starter build is lunar slash + scarlet breeze

Won’t make you carry your own weight in any dungeon but at least it is smooth to play and have bleed

Also more than enough for mushin tower

[honest haven]

so many slashers in market, did something happen?

been empty a while now

[gilded thistle]

Maybe someone quit?

[winged reef]

A guy in my FL was playing HS and now has no gear on him so it’s probably his

[astral tendon]

maybe

[gilded thistle]

Big quitting wave this week

[honest haven]

I wonder why, they stuck around this long but all decide now is the time? xd

[winged reef]

I guess they got tired of farming Sogun

[astral tendon]

probably move on to hero, the better game

[winged reef]

It’s just the same grind as the BSH days anyway

[honest haven]

is it really tho

I saw someone play it on twitch I wanted to end myself

looked so boring

[winged reef]

If I didnt know buffs were coming I’d have quit too tbh

[honest haven]

I'll see how I feel after the buffs

[odd dagger]

that tiny chance of leggy drop keeps me going

[honest haven]

for now I'm enjoying farming for leggy

[gilded thistle]

Dunno, kinda killed the mood today. Getting dced twice back to back. Redoing whole garden run oofas

[odd dagger]

was ur friend geared

i need a good wb +4 sword

[winged reef]

Until I experience the pink leggy animations I’ll probably keep going

[winged reef]

They added me like last week I have no idea

[honest haven]

isnt that a product if you guys using sketchy tools to do your rotations

I only hear puncture get it

havent had any dc issues myself

[odd dagger]

same

[astral tendon]

well only puncture get it and doesnt matter what macro you use, mouse or ahk

also pierce

[odd dagger]

too many inputs

[honest haven]

I got a pierce alt and I have used macro on my main since I started 🤷

[winged reef]

Time to ditch filthy macro builds

[honest haven]

maybe I got too many delays so I avoid it?

[astral tendon]

you will get it some point if you are pushing max count and the ping is low enough

if we are talking about 100 combo per mins then sure, is losing 20% damaghe for no reason but no dc.

[gilded thistle]

Just need 10 more yellow books no biggie, then i can manual it XD

[winged reef]

You already have 3 can’t be that hard

Yeti 0.14% drop rate that’s huge

Basically guaranteed drop

[gilded thistle]

100%

[honest haven]

rly?

[astral tendon]

is always 50%

[honest haven]

guess I gotta start farming lvls again

[winged reef]

I’m assuming Queen’s Altar is 0.19% chance

If it follows the same pattern

[odd dagger]

how hard is yeti

in terms of gear req

[solar python]

like 2 months ago

when I quit

because the game is literally going nowhere

[astral tendon]

if you can hold 80k+ on nexus you can do yeti

[honest haven]

dw when we get BT we're so back

[solar python]

RNG outfit chest basically sealed the deal for me now

[astral tendon]

so good luck achive that without leg book unless you are playing execute

[solar python]

never playing this game again

ever

[astral tendon]

and lair, 99% of the player can forget about it.

back to the good old moonwater leg dungeon route

apart from lair will be more brutal than lab realease

[honest haven]

I feel like bsh was the worst

[winged reef]

Yeti will be doable

[honest haven]

when it came out

[winged reef]

Then new purples will come out

Eventually people will do lair then

If the game is alive by then

[astral tendon]

unless it is nerfed.

which it will in the future probably

[winged reef]

SSG hasn’t been nerfed yet so idk

Like turning it into 6m

[astral tendon]

our server do not have enough wtd and execute to carry

which means the minimum required sf for lair will be 24k

[gilded thistle]

Lair i think you need 2-3 Kame level wtd users

[honest haven]

dw we got 2 weeks

ez

[astral tendon]

and how many ppl can reach 24k when lair released in eu.

[gilded thistle]

3?

tops

[astral tendon]

even if it is in Nov

fm can do more than enough damage for lair with like 20k sf

yeti is easier if ppl get to lv75

[winged reef]

At least Yeti is a fun dungeon

[astral tendon]

tho if it is purple tier easy or not idk

is defintely not doable with a team of purple dt thats for sure

[winged reef]

The 2 Ebondrake dungeons are also fun if KR gets them

[astral tendon]

will be nerfed to dps dummy anyway

so if you have the dps? is ezpz, if not, then fck lets try it in a month

ssg doesnt need a nerf anymore because is easy with sf gear. Tree and lab did get nerfed during mw patch

i assume same will happen for lair and yeti

otherwise eu lair will be limited to like less than 2 teams.

[odd dagger]

😂 you were so positive when you were playing

most positive people become the biggest doomers when they find out the truth

[solar python]

I kinda knew the truth already

I just had rose tinted glasses from starting fresh and getting pretty good luck

but then level 58 box gives me a purple breeze and I stopped playing

also

they keep adding new things to do that if you wanted to minmax

you would have to do on 1 character

kinda like horizontal progression but not actually horizontal

I'd love to play the game and feel good about it but the devs for the non KR version are basically r worded

the game legit actively makes you feel bad

and its not even like you feel good when you spend a bit of money

its either giga whale

or go home

like

right now is peak hours

look at this

this is peak hours for both NA and EU and this is both regions combined on steam

[lethal trellis]

i mean if u like it , play it and make the best with your ingame time, if u dont like, dont play. its that simple

[solar python]

even with Purple there is not even 500 people playing across both NA and EU

[solar python]

yeah, I don't play it

[lethal trellis]

many ppl complain, and yes you can complain, cause things are not wrong, but as long as server are online, we can do tf we want ingame and have a damn great time, instead of complaing THAT much , and forget about enjoy the damn good game we came for

[solar python]

the damn good game we came for got chewed up and spat out

sh*t on by NCSoft

milked the last nutrients out of

obliterated with C4

etc etc

the game had 2 things that made it stand out

PvP and the Combat and both are basically removed

The graphics are not even that good anymore either even with the UE4 update

[astral tendon]

well pvp is questionable

live pvp was also pretty dead back in the days..

[lethal trellis]

Like juju, for real, thats not offensive, but if you dont play the game anymore, what did the game do to you that you still hang on this game dc, spreading that toxic stuff? i mean, as mentioned, you might not be wrong, but ppl somehow still enjoy the game, new player come and play

and if you dont play, stop spreading this toxic stuff , which brings you nothing

[solar python]

toxic stuff?

[lethal trellis]

just waste even more of your lifetime , same as BNS neo did to you i guess, otherwise you wouldnt complain like this

[solar python]

saying the truth is toxic?

if you can still enjoy all the power to you, doesn't mean I have to nor does it mean I can't express my opinions

[lethal trellis]

na bro, but spreading bad vibes over again, calling only the negatives in a community of a game we try to enjoy, which u dont even play anymore, bro that game had hitted you hard i think 😄

[solar python]

give me 3 positive things that are part of the game and have nothing to do with playing the game because you found a couple friends

[lethal trellis]

I dont want to be offensive, rude or forbid you to speak, but cmon 😄 if you literally dont play it anymore, dont spread this negative vybes in here, and maybe better find a game you like to play?

[solar python]

I play games that I like

If I can prevent other people from making the mistake of installing this game I'll feel good about myself

I am legit doing gods work

preventing people from gambling

[lethal trellis]

xDD imagine this is what makes you happy- gosh

[hearty ether]

tbh every time i see u type in here its straight doomerism

[solar python]

not everyone is egocentric like yourself some people find joy in preventing misery for other people

[lethal trellis]

bro there is a difference in preventing misery for other people and flame over a game in a community who wanna enjoy it THE WHOLE TIME, in the manner of words you are doing all the time

tf

[solar python]

I was advocating for changes for like 2.5 months when I played and I actually had direct interactions with Rownen

literally nothing that was ever said aside from a bug fix here or there was ever implemented

[lethal trellis]

I dont care about things like that mate, thats a whole nother story

[solar python]

also no answer

[lethal trellis]

i see the game hit you hard, but cmon get over it and heads up - its a game in first place bro 😄 if you enjoy, nice, if not, nice too - and ofc you can have your opinion and if u mad, ok flame once , but this is not normal and gives srlssy bad vibes over and over again

[lethal trellis]

i love to log in doing the content I am able to, i like the combat system, the graphics, the anime vybe ingame, i like the boss designs - bro for me atm its just the game i like and enjoy!

if it will change in future, and this can happen anytime, i wont be sad or mad, i just had an awsome time

pplaying a game i like, and can spent my freetime in

that simple.

and again, I def. don't want to belittle your opinion or shut you up or something, we all can have our opinions, make our experience and share it - but this is just too toxic. thats all i wanted to say, which i dont like - that was my only point

all best for you anyways, i am out of this conversation for now, enjoy and gl hf 🙂

[gilded thistle]

I don't think anyone that plays and enjoys the game will get affected by any sort of doom talk

[astral tendon]

well i complain everyday yet im still playing

i need to go to see a psychotherapy i guess

[gilded thistle]

Pick up soulsborne games, enough of a therapy for any kind of 💩 you going through trust

[astral tendon]

well i played some souls game before

mostly just use the easiest build, bs through all the bosses and call it a day

[winged reef]

Rip juju

[gilded thistle]

[winged reef]

He was not as resilient as @wooden rain

[odd dagger]

resident doomer

You would think bns is sh it then u play other mmos and its equally s hit.

[winged reef]

This guy has an interesting build

[gilded thistle]

How does that even work?

[winged reef]

Purple skill takes priority iirc

[odd dagger]

he has that secret tech thunder drake tongue

[astral tendon]

tbf mmo in general is kind of cooked

i played ff14 for a while and not particularly enjoy that

[gilded thistle]

Isn't that the one with the 1 business day gcd?

[odd dagger]

ya i can never understand how anyone can enjoy ff14

that sh it just feels ass to play

[astral tendon]

well the game is easy enough

[odd dagger]

its hard carried by having a big existing community

[astral tendon]

wow, played a little bit a long time ago, also not something that i enjoy

bdo is alright but it is more grindy than this with worse rng

although also more players

[odd dagger]

i liked wojd but its annoying to play when 99% of people are chinese and you get randomly kicked for being foreigner

[astral tendon]

what the fck is wojd

[odd dagger]

some day that game releases in eu/na

world of jade dynasty

[astral tendon]

oh

[odd dagger]

the one ill switched over for a while

[astral tendon]

that game is considered crap in Chinese community as well

i doubt it will surivive here

[odd dagger]

i mean west loves low grind non p2w games

that game fits it perfectly

[astral tendon]

any game can survive in cn market, but not necessarily here.

is not really low grind

[odd dagger]

chinese love grind

[astral tendon]

if you want 'enjoy' the new content

[odd dagger]

post raids its low grind

[astral tendon]

i.e the dungeon they release every like 2 days

[odd dagger]

that was at start

cause they were catching upto cn

[astral tendon]

is seasonal

[odd dagger]

after raid release started

its super chill

you jst gotta finish the weekly amount and u are done.

like u can finish the whole thing in 4-5hrs after reset

I mean i was end game and i barely tried hard in that game.

[hearty ether]

taking hybrid to another lvl

[wooden rain]

Well you know that's not true

[odd dagger]

Here is our professional doomer

[wooden rain]

Ted called

[gilded thistle]

[sweet gull]

WTB Purple Puncture EU

[hidden pawn]

None for sale on market?

[astral tendon]

I mean you gotta wait for gems now a days

[hidden pawn]

Contact them be like im ur #1 whale give me more

[gilded thistle]

Its not about more, its about getting them and being able to use them instantly

Like, you want to buy something, you load up, wait three days, poof item gone already

[hidden pawn]

Im saying he can tell them im trusted give me asap

[astral tendon]

well i doubt they will do that for anyway

Maybe if you spend 6 figures on a monthly basis

I’m spending 1% of that

[twin lark]

Is it even possible to merge NA/EU?

[loud hinge]

I dont think so. Difference in time zones

[twin lark]

You mean cause wb? simple, add one that spawns at EU time and one at NA time

The real problem would be ping

[hidden pawn]

Or can just make it where they share market ez

[twin lark]

That too

Tbh that would be better

[loud hinge]

Only market share should be good enough

But @astral tendon will not be able to find a 50k trash leggy anymore

[astral tendon]

well

i bought one for 40k

and it turned into 7 pages now

[rapid jolt]

Did it just give you 5 pages every time you salvage

[astral tendon]

5554444

atm

[loud hinge]

If it really did. I will invest 2 “ parents “ books then reproduce 1 book for every 1k gold spent

[loud hinge]

And i’ll keep doing that until i got 18 leggy books

[astral tendon]

id rather get the book i need

the reroll cost is alreayd more than a trash book

[silk beacon]

isnt it 500g

[loud hinge]

he wonder if the salvage always give 5 pages @astral tendon

[odd dagger]

no

best they could do is merge the market place

but not the actual server

[tawdry yacht]

technically they can

[wraith sage]

No , if they do they will loose 90% of EU pop !

[sweet gull]

WTB Purple Puncture EU, PM.

[twin lark]

ofc

50%

[astral tendon]

fair enough

1 step closer

[astral tendon]

well

-3 mins in asura i guess

[winged reef]

Live footage of Nanaya soloing Neo as the only remaining player in the game

[astral tendon]

i see that day coming

in the not so far future.

[gilded thistle]

It is what it is

[honest haven]

btw did I misunderstand or is the current sacred badge at 80% for DT just written wrong?

or is that upcoming with the GM patch

[hidden pawn]

How many stacks u have now?

[astral tendon]

98

4 leg 4 purple and 4 blue

would be 138 if it is 4 leg and 12 purple.

[hidden pawn]

when 12 leg

[hidden pawn]

https://youtu.be/33wIUWj6P8E?si=nQStDWaDalOqUBJg

Why is he not just spamming hs why he going bd stance and sht

[twin lark]

He prob enjoys both

[silver moth]

Yeah, look so fun

[worn rapids]

What hes use on draw stance anyway? 4 and tab?

[winged reef]

He has 48 stacks of Lightning Draw so every 4 when Naksun is cc’d resets his 4 and it does a ton of dmg

[rapid jolt]

not sure if this is bug for mech, even if your Lightning Draw did not crit, as long as other skill crit with in 0.5s, cooldown will still reset

[astral tendon]

Yeah, tho is a meh build cos lightning draw does not do good damage without stun daze or grab

And funny enough as far as I know cat pin does not count for this one

[hybrid goblet]

for farm in msp is s tier i think xd

[main inlet]

😱

[odd dagger]

isnt that china

or is it tw server

[hidden pawn]

Tw

[astral tendon]

lol

smooth run is under 8 mins.

hopefully we see book at some point

[silk beacon]

dont u feel lonely there

[astral tendon]

I’ll party when I have 1k gold on me

[gilded thistle]

1k? sure we can party

[astral tendon]

Or if you have 10k gold and you will use all of them to bid the book

[twin lark]

How much does electric saber go for?

[storm swallow]

750 - 1000 DG

[twin lark]

Nah

200

[twin lark]

This doesn't even hurt anymore

[twin wren]

congrats

[thin smelt]

I too have gotten absolutely rekt on badges. I either max pity them always or get far enough into them that it feels the same

Soul, mystic, doesnt matter. They don't like me

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-master-chef-insult-disgrace-gif-14751303

Half way though

[loud hinge]

Mine went 80%

[astral tendon]

mine got up to 55% and i decide to buy a +10

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/illuminati-gif-14252563

[dapper ember]

I bought +9 and 1 tapped to +10

[astral tendon]

Now one bull 💩ing around today?

game dead

[silk beacon]

its because now we all enjoying the game

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725628521388572733/872939584592425000/image0-1-3-1.gif

[winged reef]

What a good day of grinding, gg everyone

[twin lark]

Same

I've been afk and i don't feel like doing anything at all

[coarse sun]

its neover

[honest haven]

1 more week

and game is fixed

[loud hinge]

Give everyone 4 leg frags will barely fix the game

[astral tendon]

the game does not even give you 43

if you pay

[twin lark]

At this point there's nothing they can do to fix it but to slow down its inevitable death

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-victory-screech-victory-screech-gif-5101967

I succeeded in failing

[regal trail]

anyone know what buffs bm is getting next patch?

heard hs and dt were buff

[astral tendon]

Lightning should have the biggest buff

[regal trail]

whats the buff for hs

[astral tendon]

After that is dt, although still the sh1ttest build after buff

+0.2 multipler on leg hs

+20% on badge

[regal trail]

so no actual buff apart from that

[astral tendon]

No, just more number

Puncture badge is also +20%

[regal trail]

so dumb

have to get the badge first

[astral tendon]

Is still sh1t after the number change anyway

other class have ap mutipler increased by 30-40%, we have it increased by 5%

no wonder is one of the sh1ttest class in kr and ppl only take bm for hmb in lair

And bm need 48 searing slash and triple kd to be relevant

[regal trail]

yeah so dumb

thought they would least buff hs a bit more

20+ on a badge

is stupid

gotta get the badge first that is over 500 gold

[twin lark]

AOE puncture

[gilded thistle]

We don't need that. We need buffs on the rest 40% of our main rotation abilities damage

[wraith sage]

48 grandmaster on Take flight

[hybrid goblet]

48 on flash step when ?

[gilded thistle]

I tried it. Was doodoo

[twin lark]

Speak for yourself

[hybrid goblet]

need a soul badge and mystic to play a build like that

[wraith sage]

the best buff will be GCD adjustment for LMB and RMB skills of BM , lawer that on 2 hits , and for all stance change

[twin lark]

Tbh the best buff would be removing crit requirement to boost

[wraith sage]

yes for BM is the best way to make it the main tank also

[astral tendon]

gg

[twin lark]

Do you shower with gold by any chance?

[gilded thistle]

[astral tendon]

just f5

[twin lark]

Gold here is 1.7-1.8

Not like i'd buy it though

[loud hinge]

1560 on avg bro

But trash book is 90k atleast

[twin lark]

Still not buying

And now that BP will give pages instead of purp selector

I think even more ppl will quit

[dapper ember]

@twin lark what thats the upcoming one?

[twin lark]

No selector

That's all it matters

[rapid jolt]

20 fragment box = 5 leg books

[twin lark]

Random leg books, you could transmute twice and get nothing for your build

And with my luck, i'd prob get 5 trash leggies

[main inlet]

very confident

[odd dagger]

Im pretty sure thats the crimson box trash

[regal trail]

Full pity from +6 too +10

[astral tendon]

is blue to leg instead of green to leg

Still trash

[odd dagger]

does it have better rate for leg

[astral tendon]

Probably not

is probably like 95% blue 4.7% purple and 0.3% leg

Some bullsh1t like that

[main inlet]

80% blue 18% purple 2% lego

trust in your ncsoft overlords

[astral tendon]

Either way I’m probably getting 5bps just for cards

[fallow wind]

I feel sorry for anyone who still plays this game, gl in hell boys

[gilded thistle]

Deep down you're jealous

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-cat-happy-cat-smile-gif-3555983607747631247

[fallow wind]

Only thing I’m jealous about is not having infinite money wasting straight to the bin

[loud hinge]

@winged reef wake up Tedddd. Devs finally buffed lightning

[winged reef]

Not yet here

Next week hopefully with Yeti

But imagine getting buffed on a dead game

[astral tendon]

How many lightning are we expected in top 10

Saw a guy rolling with leg tds

[winged reef]

Its the guy that quit HS

[loud hinge]

2 leg DT arrived to NA last 2 days

[winged reef]

Or puncture whatever he had

[astral tendon]

Haven’t see riven for a while

The only dt player

[hidden pawn]

I dont get it hs stronger than light ing but ppl switching to lightning?

[winged reef]

Yea this was September 3rd, everyone knows about this for a while

[loud hinge]

Since when i became a cave man

[astral tendon]

I mean lightning has the highest theoretical dps after the buff, bm wise

Even tho the theoretical dps is not that much higher compared to puncture and hs

[loud hinge]

I just saw them posted last night everywhere. I thought this is new

[astral tendon]

At least it looks good on dummy

[winged reef]

Was talked about extensively you must have missed it #1357788582617813132 message

[astral tendon]

Also hs is only better if you have the fund

[winged reef]

Was before the Silverfrost patch came to us

[astral tendon]

Without 3-4 leg book is not better

and 95% of the player don’t have that

[winged reef]

95% of 0 is still 0

[astral tendon]

Pretty sure there is like 50-60 bm hitting wb on a daily basis

[loud hinge]

Same gears, can 72 leg dt beat 60 purp punct? @astral tendon

[dry bane]

It can not

[silver moth]

HS too expensive

[winged reef]

Remove all the indian gem sellers from that number

[silver moth]

not really too

but, u know, lighting is cheap, i guess

[loud hinge]

Even getting buffed?

[winged reef]

No books for lightning nowadays

[silver moth]

they knew

[winged reef]

More like lack of books in general

[dry bane]

We will see, I am gonna try to compare pre and after buff to the best of my ability

[silver moth]

dead gaem?

[winged reef]

Luckily for me I’ve had all my purples for months now so I’m good

[hidden pawn]

So lightning better than puncture?

[astral tendon]

Dt is dealing at least 20% less, in current patch

I rolled from 78 leg dt to 66 purple puncture before sf

Damage increased by 40%

also any 15 pot per day yeti runner next week

I took 3 days off next week

[wooden rain]

at what point can you diagnose a man with mental illness based on a game

like gambling disorder

[silver moth]

maybe, in the dream

[gilded thistle]

[hidden pawn]

@astral tendon u going to reroll light ing when buff out?

[odd dagger]

lightning is stonks to invest now, cheap af book for massive gains

[dapper ember]

WTT - BM "Lil Danny" - NA for KFM Stuff PMO

[twin lark]

Full pity on the way

These mofos should just remove chance and make it 800g to upgrade

[gilded thistle]

[worn rapids]

someone sell me 1pc affordable purp hs eu :'

[astral tendon]

you know why I’d rather gamble for leg instead of buying purple

cos what you refer as affordable purple hs does not exist in eu

[gilded thistle]

Nah, that 💩 doesn't exist. I tried to print some and got 19 useless purples

[astral tendon]

Gamble for a specific purple book is hopeless

Even tho I got 1hs from a failed leg book attempt

[void ermine]

relaaax

i dont need goldcerts to sky rocket in price

[odd dagger]

if there was no chance , u wouldnt be at +9 yet

[west gust]

why is heavenly slasher so eexpensive? and what is 'heat' effect ?

[odd dagger]

because slasher is now the new dragontongue but with actual dmg

heat effect is a ap buff you get on dragon tongue/sunstroke/koldrak from searing slash / meteor strike

[west gust]

so heat and black dragon has nothing to do with slasher then?

is this the time to sell my punctures away?

[odd dagger]

black dragon is useful for slasher since slasher gains a 1xap multiplier during black dragon

[astral tendon]

Black dragon sort of does

puncture is at all time low

Make your own judgement

[odd dagger]

ideally if money matters , invest in lightning

if money dont matter, go slasher

or you could jst play puncture, i mean its still strong af

[gilded thistle]

You need to clarify you're talking legendary level

purples puncture is king

[west gust]

should have sold punctures before the SF update

[astral tendon]

slasher is still meh with purple, purple puncture can potentially get you into yeti level damage, purple slasher won’t

[west gust]

i will only ever reach purples with around 30 GM at max, my ping is 160-220 depending on the day.

[fickle salmon]

you sure its not better with full gm stacks? i feel like purple with 80-90gm hs can do more dps

[odd dagger]

ah ping

u would need 48 gm for hs

but yea at ur ping hs is infinitely better

[astral tendon]

No purple slasher has focus issue and the base modifier is meh

You will be fine with 40% crit with just purple v with leg slasher

Which is what you gonna get for later dungeon

[odd dagger]

there is no focus issue if u have either mystic badge or purple flock

[astral tendon]

I mean enjoy 35-40% crit on yeti

[west gust]

I can get mystic badge soon with weekly . Purple flock may take time, i have blue flock

[astral tendon]

I run out of focus on nexus with 55-60% crit rate if my rng is bad enough

[odd dagger]

with jst hs spam?

[astral tendon]

Well yeah I have v always up

But with purple, you don’t crit for 4-5 times you cooked

[odd dagger]

u shouldnt be having focus issue with V with leggy

wth

[odd dagger]

i have 50% crit rate on purple and im pretty fine

[gilded thistle]

If he gets no crits he gets no focus no?

[astral tendon]

Crit is +1 non crit is -1

Purple crit is +0

[gilded thistle]

[odd dagger]

it costs no focus during V to

[astral tendon]

True, but realistically you want to cast v as less as possible for optimal damage

3 seconds bd won’t make up the damage loss

Is like -4% every time you cast v

Or 3% can’t recall the actual number

[odd dagger]

lightning rod does make up

[west gust]

how do you find % crit rate and crit damage? i can only see meaningless numbers

[astral tendon]

Lightning rod also means at least -1 hits

So with high enough gm not really

Anything other than rmb is - damage

The only exception is legendary 4

[astral tendon]

Hit dummy with azura

With 16 purple book, 1 hs should do more damage than lightning rods

But I guess is fine if we are talking about 48 stacks budget gamer

But at that point just go puncture

Cheaper and way more damage

Hs requires to have more stacks than puncture to do the same damage up until around 160 stacks

[astral tendon]

Tho with your ping just go hs, even hs is barely playable

Is just puncture you do -30/40% damage hs you probably do like -15%

[regal trail]

I play HS 220 ping

It’s perfect

[astral tendon]

Also bare in mind puncture is half the price as hs now

[regal trail]

Trust me

You literally miss out on one hit that’s all

You can’t play anything other then hs @west gust

[west gust]

yea, puncture books were 100 for superior , HS was 350+

[regal trail]

I’ve got 30gm I’m doing arounrn 35k dps on asura

Only purples n blues

Leggy is a massive update

[astral tendon]

With sh1t ping you don’t have a choice

[regal trail]

Correct 😂😂😂

[west gust]

XD

i feel better with HS as well, puncture did almost same damage but felt clunky

[regal trail]

If you have bad ping

And don’t have at least $5000 to spend on the game

Find a new game

I’ve already spent like 2000 rdy for leggy next

[fickle salmon]

yeah even impossible to get 48stacks rn if fresh start book market deadge and expensive (eu)

[astral tendon]

I manage to get 4 purple hs

When I have 5 leg hs

[regal trail]

😂😂😂

This guy and his leg books

Ima kms

I’d buy all 5 for 200k ea on NA

[astral tendon]

God rich NA folks

[regal trail]

I’m from Australia

Playing NA

ahahah

[west gust]

BM is not my main for now , i have spent a total of 10$ on my main, i am not spending on a game

[regal trail]

Go FM

If you want a cheap way to do it

Use shadowpc for 2ms

Gets you from 220pingnto 2ms

You won’t complain

Think it’s like $57 use a month

[fickle salmon]

isnt that just 2ms on shadow but you to shadow 220ping makes no diff

[regal trail]

No it’s a huge difference

[astral tendon]

Pretty much

[regal trail]

It literally only has a noise delay

All actions are 2ms

[fickle salmon]

i dont think thats how it works bro

[regal trail]

Jus gotta find a way to get use to the mouse delay and keyboard movements

I use it 😂

-15k dps without it

I hit faster with DT then my friend from America with natural 50 ping

You just have to put up with the whole fact that when you move it won’t move

[fickle salmon]

i used it too while i was on vacation and it made no diff, playing with 120ping or 4ms on shadow because the delay on the shadow pc

[regal trail]

The stream stays at 220ms

Are you from America tho ?

It only works for certain country’s like Indonesia and Australia

[fickle salmon]

well i tried it on eu

[regal trail]

Yeah maybe something to do with eu cause it works for so many ppl in NA

[astral tendon]

I know someone play on shadow from saudi on eu server and it does nothing

[regal trail]

@astral tendon ima need those 6 hs

Wait

Lemme know when you come to NA and find 16 leg books

Lmao

[odd dagger]

[odd dagger]

i dont think its -1 hit? rod ani gets cancelled by hs ani almost immediately

[astral tendon]

There are some animation with it, it definitely not feels like cancelled instantly, maybe not -1 tho

But if I look at the numbers while doing asura

Press anything other than hold rmb is - dps

[silver moth]

Lightning rod not worth when play HS

[astral tendon]

I don’t have leg 4 yet so can’t test but calculation says is +4% ish

Funny enough I never rolled leg 4

Well not stone slash

Searing slash a few times

It might be worth if you just have 48 stacks

[loud hinge]

To anyone at purple level like me. Punct is still the best choice. Unless you can afford 90 HS to “ barely “ beat 60 punct

[odd dagger]

but you cant uber farm with puncture in msp unless u are super geared.

[astral tendon]

Well in that regard in current day and age, is capped by spots

Rather than aoe or not

[odd dagger]

not if u play when everyone sleeps

can get 3 spots for urself.

[astral tendon]

Well for me there are no lifers 4 am competing for sh1t msp spot

Ok I guess that’s why

I farm 3 with puncture , 5 with hs

So it makes 0 difference

[odd dagger]

ya u are super geared

[astral tendon]

Cos you won’t get 5 99.99% of the time

[odd dagger]

it doesnt matter what u are

but without gear , u cant clear multiple spots as puncture

hell u probably even struggle on the multiple mob spots

[astral tendon]

but again, is just worse without minimum 48 stacks where puncture is functional with any stacks while being cheaper nowadays, for most ppl it will also perform better in dungeons since puncture requires less gear to work, hs requires the player to over level the boss and with good crit rate to perform

[astral tendon]

I’m 116 hs now and I don’t do that much more compare to 78 puncture in nexus

And 116 is not doable with 1 leg and 15-16 purple

[loud hinge]

Purple level broooo

[loud hinge]

What is your sf/ap?

[astral tendon]

Well in leg unless you have at least 2 leg hs and full purple puncture is still slightly better when it comes to single target dps

[odd dagger]

11k, 1.1k

[loud hinge]

Good enough to clear 3 spots of 4 i guess. As long as your target is the big one, tab will take care the rest

[odd dagger]

best spots have 3/4 big ones though

[loud hinge]

I never thought of having 2+ legs. Unless leg books are given in bp

[loud hinge]

That spot is always taken. I’ll pass that

[odd dagger]

even with 84 hs i barely get back in time on a 3 spot rotation

i cant imagine puncture even be able to hold the 3 spot.

[loud hinge]

I do 3 spots. 7/5/4

[astral tendon]

Is less brain dead grinding and pretty much only good for spot with 1-2 big guy and rest small guys

[loud hinge]

The captain (mage) one gives the same xp as the big one

[astral tendon]

4 big guy spot is a bit painful with out crack gear

1-2 big guy, if you target big guy lunar slash will almost kill the small guy

[odd dagger]

well next patch some nice lv 57 spots would be 60

thank god

[loud hinge]

Still getting packed

[odd dagger]

almost all the msp rats are high lvl people

atleast at the time i play

its just lvl 70s

[loud hinge]

At my playable hrs, msp is always packed.

[odd dagger]

ya cant imagine playing at regular hours

its so bad

[loud hinge]

I went from 60 to 65 by doing dungeons

300~400k per day. Nexus runs are included

[astral tendon]

I’m averaging less than 30 mins per day in msp

lv 69 atm

I used 8 hour glasses in total from the beginning of sf but also missed 7-8 days of 30 mins completely

Started nexus fairly early

That probably helped a bit

[winged reef]

I have all my mystic badge fragments, don’t have to login for the rest of the week anymore until patch

[uneven kernel]

if i play crap dt rn, and have few selectable, is it worth switch to lightning? and what is "tier list"* after update next week? what about purple and legendary, single target and aoe etc? or all this dont matter and as f2p should i go for any leg rpm i drop?

[astral tendon]

I only know leg tier list

And purple wise puncture is still the best option after the draw stance build buff

[uneven kernel]

and for leg, puncture is still vialable?

[astral tendon]

If you are exclusively talking about 1 leg book, is probably still the best option

Dt is still the worst if you are talking about the same number of leg book

[uneven kernel]

what about no limit? HS?

[astral tendon]

16 leg book hs swipe everything

Within bm circle ofc

similar gear fm and des will do more damage with 1 leg book and rest purple

Starting from 2 books lightning has the highest theoretical dps after the buff

But in reality is about the same or a bit worse than puncture

that will be the case up to 160-170 stacks on your main dps skill

When hs will have the highest damage assuming you somehow reach 50% crit rate

Require some master hong

Tho hs can naturally stack higher

To play hs effectively you need 3 master hong and 1 jinsoyun

[uneven kernel]

tldr, it is worth switching to lightning, but i assume new badge is required

[fickle salmon]

legy 100% but purple i dont think so

[winged reef]

Play what you prefer

Lightning has aoe and probably will do more dmg than fire and is more fun to play, but preferably you’ll want the mystic badge yes

[uneven kernel]

and probably macro for lightning?

i dont know why draw builds are nerfed so much

[winged reef]

Don’t need macro for lightning, it’s just anim cancelling 2 skills but I’m sure there are many from live

[astral tendon]

can dt just fck off

when will they remove this skill

[valid cradle]

5 fragments, infinite books

[honest haven]

I can hold one for ya if u want

[astral tendon]

too late

[twin lark]

70% pity

[odd dagger]

soon

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/go-lets-gif-21612543

Tbh i could have upgrade other stuff but i just wanted to get over with badge first

Then i can focus on accs

[odd dagger]

ya imma start my badge journey now

all other acc are winterbane

[twin lark]

FCK YEAH

[wooden rain]

gratz, now you can move on to the next money sink

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-cat-mad-going-insane-going-crazy-gif-12603489682271224089

[odd dagger]

Dont u feel enjoyment , that dopamine rush

[twin lark]

Not really

Just another completed chore

[regal trail]

I spent about 1000 gold from +6 to sf badge @twin lark

I feel you

[twin lark]

I won't upgrade sf badge to +10, +1 is more than enough i just wanna get the buff

those extra levels mean nothing to me

[astral tendon]

EU if anyone intersted

[odd dagger]

cheap

[gilded thistle]

[fickle salmon]

there are even 2

[astral tendon]

id probably get it if i didnt roll all my gems yesterday for stone slash

[fickle salmon]

didnt you buy it for 41k?

[astral tendon]

nah i bought a trash to roll for slasher

and settled for stone slash

[gilded thistle]

It is a dps boost though, so not so bad

[honest haven]

given gold to divine price is so low now I wonder if its not just better to buy one at this point

[odd dagger]

whos selling

tat 8.6k one was a lucky miracle

[fallow wind]

Going to gym > playing Neo

Make gains irl

[wraith sage]

can somone sell me 2 purp DT so i can ^lay noob BM build in piece ??

[void ermine]

[worn rapids]

Is it possible doin 70k+ on garden w/o legend book only purple gm30 lv65 1200ap 4k'ish cr cd?

[twin lark]

No

Unless low ping maybe?

Really low

[worn rapids]

I saw one but on destroyer execute player

His burst 100k ish

[twin lark]

This guy deals 88

[worn rapids]

That one guy seem suspicious, thanks btw vic

[edgy plaza]

thats normal on destroyer idk why u guys are surprised with that

also he is geared

[worn rapids]

The one vic share is possible.
Dunno with the one i said

[twin lark]

1.2k ap and 4k cr cd is impossible to deal that much dmg

Even at lv65

[odd dagger]

u can deal that much cause there is 2 enemies

I hit 95k on garden with 1150 AP 5k cr/3.5k cd with HS

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-it-i-dont-believe-you-will-farrell-anchor-man-gif-5332521

How come i only deal 45 then? and i have better stats than the guy hujin said

[odd dagger]

there is a reason why multi gardens often ask for aoe builds

single target losers do so little dmg in comparison

[worn rapids]

Dont compare skyrus.
His HS gm82 110% 😂

[twin lark]

All des skills are aoe?

[odd dagger]

yes

the ones that do dmg

[twin lark]

Unfair

[azure moth]

i need help with this issue

i just moving on to my new pc

and after hours download the game

when i hit play game on purple, the logo popped up then disappeared

normally it would take a few secs for the game to run

but nothing appeared and the start game button on purple is clickable

[astral tendon]

is normal

des with 400 ap less deal more damage compare to me in nexus

you need to remove execute and wicked twin dragon from damage coversation

[regal trail]

Des is one of the classes that are unmatched

When you see execute with a gm of 30+ purple or leggy it’s gonna be insane damage

[void ermine]

Its not too late to make a des and experience it

[gilded thistle]

There's not enough in the market to reroll unfortunately. The only option is if someone quits

[astral tendon]

yeah, the new Zevid has been buying books for weeks

and still not 48 stacks yet

[void ermine]

Probably isnt swiping / gambling enough

[odd dagger]

Only if u are willing to experience mw des

[astral tendon]

tbh back in mw, des are pretty good with leg execute and eradicate

Purple is meh due to execute down time but is not like mw sum level of damage

you can also grab during down time

Tho the population of the class is always short

Remember back in mw des was a burst class

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/shang-tsung-it-has-begun-windy-gif-12038108

[regal trail]

Wtb heavenly slasher heroic NA

[twin lark]

Dmg increase is trash tbh, but i can focus on something else now

[void ermine]

you have ascended

congratulations brudda

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/everything-gif-18150693

[honest haven]

isnt it buffed on patch too

[twin lark]

Would prob still be trash dmg

Spent 600+ gold on +9 to +10 but at least i got that out of the way

[astral tendon]

Bm deals trash damage anyway

Your purpose is to use hmb, if you are a whale your additional purpose is the do defence reduction with leg searing slash

you get out damaged by f2p lucky wtd, des and lightning bd anyway

[twin lark]

Biggest joke is we can't even tank cause no threat

[astral tendon]

If bm/kfm can tank then lower damage is semi justified

Tho tanking is less important nowadays anyway, cos no mech requires you to have a bm/kfm tank

Fm can tank melee and range

[twin lark]

Yeah this game is a joke

[astral tendon]

But if tanking is a thing

Fire is basically removed from the game

Lightning can tank but is a bit harder

[worn rapids]

Wait, bm can tank before?
I thought only the warcry with delay of 30s.
Was think BM got high agro to start with as a newbie, but no

[valid cradle]

You're a pretty decent range tank too Nanaya

[odd dagger]

Not neo

[worn rapids]

Oh the original live one.
I see.

[astral tendon]

are you assuming I can hold aggro

Not gonna happen

[honest haven]

prolly making another alt to do faction prestige but im torn, I want to play kfm but it's probably best to play bm in case of a nice bp again...

decisions

perhaps I'll axe my fm and do both

[astral tendon]

I axed bd fm and sum

I leave the kfm alone cos she is the only one with max soul warden

And I don’t want to level it again for primer

[honest haven]

bruv your lvl 45 bm alt has 56 puncture 💀

what the helly

guess its another garden farmer huh

[astral tendon]

Mushin tower farmer

Do you think I can be bothered to farm garden

[honest haven]

🤷 with some lvls, the hm pots are kinda not replenishing as much anymore

[astral tendon]

I still have 203

I barely farm dungeons

[void ermine]

Naksun * farmer

[twin wren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSdmXVwyPJ4

Did this vid for fun to demo mechs to friends

[honest haven]

there are mechs?? 😯

[winged reef]

Kids in 2025 will call anything a mech

[void ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-lol-haha-so-funny-funny-gif-15155799540154128453

This ted fr^

[winged reef]

[astral tendon]

i heard dt will be remvoed next patch

should i stop and reroll after maintenace tmr

id have 10+ dt by now if im a dt player

[fickle salmon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYzMYcUty6s

[valid cradle]

Equip some DT to trick the game into giving you other spec books

[twin lark]

Nice, now all that's left is adding AOE PUNCT

[twin wren]

I feel younger already

[grand forge]

You guys see the puncture bm solo yeti?

[rapid jolt]

where

[grand forge]

https://youtu.be/ptc8IAL7R_o?si=5rgHfjzC0ZiLfssy

[astral tendon]

Bd can do it with 5k less supreme force if someone try

[grand forge]

What spec

[astral tendon]

Lightning ofc

HS can do it with few k less supreme force assuming lv 76

ofc theoretically until someone tries it

Maybe not classes without hmb

[grand forge]

I see. Didn't know lightning bd was that good

[astral tendon]

You know this guy

22k lightning bd out damage him

When he was almost 28k

He is now 29k

23k bd will still out damage him

[grand forge]

Is wind bd close to lightning

[astral tendon]

No on higher level content

Not even close

Wind is one of the sh1t build for later dungeons bd wise

Well you can flex on wb for sure

[grand forge]

Lol too bad wind is alot of fun I tried lightning but ani cancel is too hard

[astral tendon]

most ppl are only pressing macro

There is no big difference both 1 button class

Maybe you manual fatal blade

That’s about it

[grand forge]

Ya I couldn't get a good macro going for it lol I just prefer manual gameplay too

I like lightning bm shadow des wind bd etc

[worn rapids]

Anyone can recommending server time to lvl msp?
Lv60 area never have empty spot when i go online

[astral tendon]

It always have ppl

Unless you got lucky and get in to a line that normally ppl can’t go in

For example some ppl grind mid night, every one left, then next day ppl join to the other channel and you got invited to the empty channel before the first one fill up

[twin lark]

Go at 4am

Less ppl

[worn rapids]

Might try to afk on msp then from 12m.
Wondering that will work.
Thanks guys.

[twin lark]

You crazy

Afking in msp wasting time

[dapper ember]

No class patch?

[worn rapids]

Nah, i mean in the lobby

[regal trail]

Any patch notes

or nothing once again

[valid cradle]

At least the server maintenance post is on time lol

[tawdry yacht]

https://bns.ncsoft.jp/news/patch-note/bns/news/f25/251015neoupdate001

patch notes

[winged reef]

I’ll have to login today and do a parse before the skill patch to compare after

[honest haven]

fm friend said he's not getting gms tomorrow, is it the same for us?

I thought we got them same patch

[winged reef]

FM buffs came after BM so

It was like 3-4 weeks after so

[honest haven]

oh I see

[winged reef]

The patch notes don’t explicitly mention TDS gms but I doubt they wouldn’t add them considering the skills are getting buffed

[honest haven]

seems like something they would mention