Blade Master

[grave hawk]

who comes up with those droprates

[sick bison]

whoever within the development team has proven to hate the players the most during the past year

it changes every year

[winged reef]

Pretty sure next dungeons will drop these more often

This is probably just an early drop chance

[astral tendon]

Yeti doesn’t really drop that that often I think

Legendary wise

Maybe the next wave

But I’m curious about the exp thing

Like are they going to lower the required amount or increase the exp gain in the future

[odd dagger]

they just whale baits

content isnt meant for leggy rn

[sick bison]

thinking about the wave after yeti seems wild for us

even yeti dps requirement is impossible without legendary skills

[winged reef]

My guess is they all add another set of purple dungeons after Yeti and a Legendary one where the legendary accs actually drop

[wooden rain]

How does a non existent drop rate count as whale bait, they're not going to farm hoping to drop one

And they can't do math anyway

[odd dagger]

when it drops

to someone

[winged reef]

I think he means whaling on purple ones to get legendary

Guess not

[odd dagger]

oh u can do that to

[winged reef]

Cause you can get max legendary now if you go hard on purples

[odd dagger]

ya

whale bait that way to

[winged reef]

Only gatekept by ductile stones I guess

[sick bison]

you can just farm naksun for those

[astral tendon]

10% is a bit 💩

I’ve done it everyday and got 1 on Wednesday

[sick bison]

gains are gains

[astral tendon]

Might as well just do 4x mushin tower on alt

[wooden rain]

Whales would be all geared up by the time anything drops with those odds

[astral tendon]

We need more solo content

Literally the only place bm can shine

Ok , beluga is dead again 5 mins no match

[winged reef]

F20 when

[sick bison]

circle of sundering when

[winged reef]

Mao when

[sick bison]

we're getting pve rankings back with yeti

maybe we'll get mao + rankings one day

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[astral tendon]

any pilot to get r1 for me

[sick bison]

only thing to pilot in this game would be overnight MSP

[twin lark]

Mao is the cat npc right?

That was fun

[astral tendon]

Any msp pilot I expect 3 levels a day

[twin lark]

Sure 1k usd and ill do it

[astral tendon]

A bit out of my budget, I’m planning to pay by feet pic

[sick bison]

61-80, I'll pay 1k usd, come do it

[twin lark]

No 3 levels per day, 1k per day

https://tenor.com/view/what-are-you-talking-about-kekw-lol-lmao-hahahaha-gif-8702948173283737765

[sick bison]

smh

bad business

[twin lark]

For you, not for me

wtf we get frags now?

What's next? 3 mini frags=1 frag?

[valid cradle]

You get both now

Dont think essence drops themselves changed

[wooden rain]

Speaking of upcoming content

[winged reef]

Ye. I did it recently on [REDACTED] https://youtu.be/pdRg-Ks8tsU?si=AXYcRZ_RoQs-0f7c

[wooden rain]

Aren't we close to being caught up to KR now, which means 3x slower content releases

[sick bison]

idk about close

kr has a bit more content, but their power level is 100x ours

[twin lark]

I cleared this without getting hit, so much fun, i hope by the time they add it here, they don't remove the color CC mech

[sick bison]

they could catch us up to kr content very fast, but we couldn't clear it

we're more behind on gearing events than we are on actual content, lol

[wooden rain]

Nobody's talking about gear level

[twin lark]

Wait, they moved her from ajanara or whatever is called, to inside mushin?

[wooden rain]

We all know they won't do anything for our region

[sick bison]

did they not say that they will monitor gear lvl and time updates based on it

or am I making this up

[wooden rain]

I don't follow closely but didn't see anything like it

[winged reef]

Read my message again

[sick bison]

might have been throne and liberty then, I get my ncsoft games mixed up

[winged reef]

Don’t wanna get warnings xd

[wooden rain]

What would be the qualifier anyway, they released lab when almost nobody would clear it

[twin lark]

Wth is redacted?

wait nvm

i get it now

[sick bison]

well now that's not an issue per se

as there's no hard enrage

also up until recently, all update times were locked in already

or well, locked into a certain month at least

[wooden rain]

Either way it means the content comes either slow or slower

[sick bison]

that is indeed so

if that would mean that we get more events and more frequent smaller patches for balance changes etc, that would be welcome

but why would it mean anything positive for us at this point

just coping

[astral tendon]

is just gonna be weekly maintenance without any change for 3 month

[winged reef]

Time to start farming bsh twins for hair after skill patch then

[wooden rain]

0 chance, stop deluding yourself

The whole monitoring thing is probably also just an excuse for slower updates, if they did say it

Silverfrost was the last major update of 2025, you can go touch grass now

[winged reef]

China supposedly gets the new region this year

Inb4 it’s recoloured Solak

[twin lark]

Anyone gonna multi asura?

Need a good drop to get gems for bp

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/what-are-you-talking-about-kekw-lol-lmao-hahahaha-gif-8702948173283737765

[spiral sky]

I want to play lightning

But i don't want to play bns

How to proceed?

[astral tendon]

i had hope

for 1 second

[gilded thistle]

[astral tendon]

Thought I’m gonna be the guy to get a leg book for free

is also after this crap

have to run all the way back for another 10 mins

[gilded thistle]

[winged reef]

Come race me

[winged reef]

Play bns

[spiral sky]

my brain is telling me no

but my heart

[winged reef]

Just think about the infinite lmb rmb

[spiral sky]

im trying

[winged reef]

Tab quickly off cd

[spiral sky]

no one wants to buy my luanr and falcon

[winged reef]

You got time to sell no need to rush

[spiral sky]

what do i get for my bounds

es?

tds is cheaper in na

rofl

gonna save ir for now

[spiral sky]

GAOOO !!!

[twin lark]

Better farm asura or twins?

[spiral sky]

twins faster no?

[hearty ether]

someone is already level 69?????

[twin lark]

Doesn't seem faster to me

[spiral sky]

🐢 team

dunno actually

[twin lark]

Time to MSP, this sht is dead

[winged reef]

Move to eu

[twin lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/838595060131561503/1376336485514743839/2025-05-05_354Kviews16KreactionsJosephPostingIIonReels_1514968899475159-ezgif.com-cut.gif

[astral tendon]

good thing about garden is you can duo within 10 mins ez

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-dave-chappelle-worried-huh-what-gif-15056219

[astral tendon]

With 2 geared ppl is 8-9 mins, asura need 4-6 ppl for that

And asura you won’t really be mega fast unless you have a leg wind sever, a leg slasher or a geared sunflowr sum in your team

Cos I’m pretty sure only those can hit during mech

The aoe zone is 6m, you need attack that count as melee attack with 6+m range to hit

[twin lark]

Since both drop same items, except for acc, i guess twins is less annoying

[astral tendon]

Also 2ppl means more party loot can just take in turn

[twin lark]

I really need to burn this and the 54 pots i have left

[astral tendon]

Or just farm naksun for ductile stone

[gilded thistle]

[astral tendon]

2 and half mins a run

Also I noticed riven got leg dt

the build is cooked

I can’t recall when was the last time I saw him in wb top 10

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-meme-tom-and-jerry-meme-jerry-points-get-a-load-of-this-guy-this-guy-gif-11384860625931393733

Not everyone's a whale man

[astral tendon]

I mean dps is not an issue for naksun

Unless you don’t have detect

[twin lark]

Doesn't it have enrage?

[astral tendon]

6.9m in 5 mins

[twin lark]

naksun lv67 the mofo hits me twice and i'm dead

No margin of error

[astral tendon]

well puncture you can just parry everything, lightning you probably cooked

Good thing about basic stance is you can also cancel counter every 9 sec

That bull 💩 old guy counter 360

You can’t even hit from behind

[twin lark]

I mean i tried but i got killed 3 times, guess i need to practice more

[hearty ether]

basic stance just seems so much better especially in silverfrost's dungeons now

[astral tendon]

Slasher probably feel the best if you have a leg book

if I roll slasher I’ll not reroll it

Leg slasher you can hit asura from outside of the aoe

Free dps

You can also hit both twins at the same time

[hearty ether]

does legendary hs extend the range or smth?

[astral tendon]

So solo/duo would be much quicker

Yeah leg hs has 8 meter range

[hearty ether]

[astral tendon]

The asura aoe is 6 meter

To counter some 5 meter class

But the 💩 thing is wind bd is 8 meter cos who the fck use wind sever, is all rolling typhoon or wind dragon soaring sky

Tho for sunder nexus, puncture also felt ok cos range is not a big factor there

But those 2 are annoying to grind

[hearty ether]

do they have the same drop rates as sogun's?

[astral tendon]

Nexus should have the same drop as soguns just different accs

Nexus drop glove and bracelet

Also more exp

30+k per run compare to like 12

[hearty ether]

oh damn okay

[winged reef]

Naksun is fine as long as my f block doesn’t take half my hp

With the new tab it’ll be a lot easier too since we dont have Dragon flash in neo

[astral tendon]

basic stance still goated

Parry doesn’t take damage

[odd dagger]

isnt asura invul when he do that mech

[winged reef]

I think he’s only immune when he starts throwing projectiles

When he spawns the aoe I always stay there another 3-4s hitting him before ss

[astral tendon]

He has the fm Veil during mech

So anything don’t count as projectile can hit

[silver moth]

even sum can laze him

[astral tendon]

Dragonchar can also hit

But focus would be fcked

Sum is fine cos hold rmb

[honest haven]

https://i.imgur.com/SoF0L4K.png

right in time for buffs

[fallow wind]

https://tenor.com/view/pay-to-win-you-suck-morshu-morshu-pay-to-win-gif-26076067

[honest haven]

I poured my blood sweat and tears into this one craft

[twin lark]

Looks like someone is quitting

[somber kiln]

Oh no

Is that Rinaa

They gotta be the only pierce player still on the game

[somber kiln]

Hmmm is that worth though

But anyway

Got the best possible option from tbe transmute

Fail*

[twin lark]

LMAO

[winged reef]

I have a friend that plays Pierce

[spiral sky]

M players

Send help ted

No one wants my lunar and falcon

[somber kiln]

How much you selling falcon for

Can anyone confirm if hs purple only with the 48 stacks is better than DT purple 48 stacks?

Well might be hard to compare

Since we havent seen mich of the DT 48 stacks

[spiral sky]

I think is 3k on f5

I have no clue

The prices

[winged reef]

Maybe time to reduce prices. Or be patient

[spiral sky]

[hearty ether]

any eu lightning enjoyers that want this

[winged reef]

10k DG

https://tenor.com/view/pawn-pawn-star-20bucks-the-best-i-can-do-the-best-i-can-do-is20bucks-gif-15253458

[astral tendon]

Tds lol

I think the only hope to sell it for more than trash book price is if you convince me to reroll lightning

[winged reef]

Please don't

[hearty ether]

help me spread lightning bm propaganda

[astral tendon]

If it’s puncture I’d pay like 100k

Even slasher probably 85 or something

[gilded thistle]

I feel a slasher soon Nanaya

[honest haven]

salvage and craft again 🫣

[winged reef]

It's easily sellable for 50k

That's still a lot of DGs

[odd dagger]

taking leggy slasher loans

[gilded thistle]

Pretty sure there's plenty of people looking to buy leggy books to salvage around 50k range

[astral tendon]

I mean yeah , trash book wise is about that price

I’ll take it for 50k as well

[winged reef]

How much fee for 50k

[gilded thistle]

See? Buyer already

gg

4

so 46k after taxes

[winged reef]

Should still be 40k+

[astral tendon]

Yeah 46k after taxes

[winged reef]

Yea that's still a lot

Specially considering how much you bid for it

[odd dagger]

oh leggy is only bid drop?

[twin lark]

How do ppl get so many badge frags? i barely made it to +6

Most ppl already have the new ones

[astral tendon]

Get lucky

Or buy badge to salvage

[hearty ether]

yeah i bid 500 but 416 is what it took basically

[somber kiln]

Yyp

[odd dagger]

dam 500g for leggy is basically free

wth

[astral tendon]

500 is nothing

[hearty ether]

like 7k dg ya

[somber kiln]

Hey
At least it wasnt honed slash

[astral tendon]

It will be the same price

[odd dagger]

tds honed

same thing

[astral tendon]

So no difference

[somber kiln]

Aint tds getting better

[winged reef]

Lightning rmb real name is still honed slash

[odd dagger]

both are equally useless

[winged reef]

Never forget

[odd dagger]

there is no lightning whales left

[astral tendon]

He has to get puncture or slasher and sell it to me for more than trash book price anyway

[somber kiln]

Wait i thought lightning had a good buff coming

[astral tendon]

Everything else is the same

[winged reef]

Yea but not enough for whales to switch

[somber kiln]

I see

[winged reef]

And I can’t afford it

[hearty ether]

tds is the next best build after puncture after the coming patches (trust me, 100% real )

[odd dagger]

and no one really pre pays it

hs value didnt rise until this patch

[somber kiln]

Hs is still going down

Its at 5k last i check

Same with DT

Was 5555 last night

[odd dagger]

it was 2k when i quit

[astral tendon]

nobody buying it

Hs

[odd dagger]

2k in that time is like 600 dg rn

[astral tendon]

Cos purple hs is still 💩

[odd dagger]

i actually saw quite a lot of hs players

[astral tendon]

Well there is one guy buying it for 4k

They mostly have it before

[odd dagger]

i remember only a single hs player when i quit other than me

i saw like 6-7 diff hs users in last 3 days

[astral tendon]

I saw 0

Well 1 on world chat, the guy who buy hs

[somber kiln]

Yeah
They’re coming out the woodworks

[odd dagger]

sir u need to play with plebs

[astral tendon]

I play with a lot of plebs

[somber kiln]

Im sure he solos almost everything

[odd dagger]

smh never carried me yet after new patch

[somber kiln]

Idk if asura is soloable rn

[astral tendon]

3 blues with random everyday

Is not, flower sucks

[hearty ether]

probably at lvl 70+

[astral tendon]

I fought him for 10 mins and get 1 shot by a normal attack while he was still full hp

1 person can’t get all the flowers in time, at least bm can’t

Best you can do is 5 if you angle yourself right

[twin lark]

Where's the new badge NPC?

[odd dagger]

there isnt one

[astral tendon]

You have to get new badges from +10 old one

[twin lark]

Then why do we have sacred frags?

[winged reef]

Upgrade sf badge

To +10

[twin lark]

Damn

[astral tendon]

then prepare for salok badge

[astral tendon]

Tho slasher might be possible cos you can hit none stop and skip flowers

[spiral sky]

Guys

Stay punc or move to HS

Lightning is trash

And always be it

[sick bison]

stay punc until full leggy

then move HS

leggy pierce when

pierce gm bonus when

[hearty ether]

lightning next best build promise

[spiral sky]

Thats a lie

Full fire is better

I have kr dev insights

Leg pierce 5xap mod in bd

Trust me

[sick bison]

I TRUST

🙏

[spiral sky]

How long usually kr patches takes to hit us?

1,5months?

[valid cradle]

We were missing stuff from late May prior to this update

[spiral sky]

Missing winter psych

[sick bison]

we get bits and pieces from random kr patches usually

[winged reef]

Prayge for faster updates

Would it be worth to put points into Blade Storm? It does okay damage on the tooltip

[sick bison]

if you want to

does 263 dps for me

xd

might be fine for shorter fights if you got nothing else to put it into

[winged reef]

Yea it doesn’t even show up for me

I’ll just put them in tab later

[sick bison]

got my first pierce/punc dc in months

2 minutes of circling ken and gen, and I'm out

[twin lark]

Oh killing the ssp field boss gives you frags for badge

Nice

[spiral sky]

Outfitsb sf

[twin lark]

How many times does the boss spawn?

[odd mantle]

catching the field boss every hour seems pretty good, everything thing on the silverfrost wheel gives them

mfw you just found that

[twin lark]

Every hour?

So, i'll turn into a slave

[odd mantle]

1.5 hours idk

essence might get cheapo eventually to just buy em

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-whtie-and-black-cry-praying-looking-up-gif-553441503240360994

[odd mantle]

vibe

[twin lark]

I'm broke af

Need that sweet new badge

And this sht keeps failing, fck me

[spiral sky]

I need golds

[odd mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/po-dies-dies-of-death-teletubbies-gif-23885910

HS to do blazing demon >.>

[twin lark]

Yeah right as if chinese mafia would let anyone kill it

[odd mantle]

its ok on NA sometimes

i just cant get close to dps

[spiral sky]

Badges still +6 /+4

Need to upgrade

For lightning

[twin lark]

Idk why i didn't upgrade before patch

Fck

I had almost 1k gold

Also need to craft new primer coins

[spiral sky]

Im still lvl4 0 xp

There

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/i’m-insane-cat-it’s-okay-cat-gif-12275585005017721526

[winged reef]

Mystic more important

[spiral sky]

Mystic is +4

[valid cradle]

Afaik its closer to 2 hours

[winged reef]

Mine’s still +7. Might have to start buying outfits to salvage if I dont have by the time patch drops

[twin lark]

So the field boss is every hour or what?

Need them frags

[odd dagger]

70min-100min after last death

[twin lark]

They should at those times to clock

[finite ridge]

i have a question PLease help 😄 the new soul badge says pancture, is that including puncture, pierce and HS ? or only puncture?

[astral tendon]

for some reason, i always dc when im at the gold guy side

silver side i dont

but i do significantly less damage on silver side

no idea why

[winged reef]

In a future update, all skills will be in the soul badge

They were added later in KR

[finite ridge]

okay, so still not yet >.< then am not rushing on leveling the soul badge 😄 ill focus on my gear more

thaaank you

[odd dagger]

huh HS and pierce got badge?

[somber kiln]

Bro didnt even consider DT

[spiral sky]

Dt is god tier

[odd dagger]

damn

hs has a badge now

[winged reef]

Yes, all got buffed last patch on KR too

[odd dagger]

damn leggy DT with better gear and 78 stack losing to 44 stack puncture with lower gear

2 more months till he can do more dmg

[astral tendon]

dt is god

today wb top 10 is 1 dt 8 puncture and 1 pierce

i think

dt = pierce

lightning cant even get top 10

[odd dagger]

whos lightning now

[astral tendon]

nobody from this list

[hearty ether]

not fair how u have to at least have a legendary dt and insane stacks to keep up w puncture builds w less gm😭

[astral tendon]

i mean, you see why i roll back to puncture from dt

i do Senso's damage if im using dt now

with my gear

[hearty ether]

being in draw stance is punishment enuf, having to upkeep bd is worse

[sick bison]

barely made the list with pierce

gm buff when

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-git-gud-hollow-knight-gif-487380231553167495

[odd dagger]

atleast u did almost same dmg as leggy DT

being less geared

[twin lark]

A kind soul to buy trash items from me for 500dgs?

[sick bison]

yeah his gear and leggy dt with that dps is rough

the buffs are much needed

[twin lark]

Why is it so hard to get a decent loot? i haven't got any since BSH2 was released

wtf

[sick bison]

for me asura loot seems like 10x better than anything before SF

on average

[twin lark]

All i get from asura is trash

[dry bane]

thanks for the sentiment, rough times over here

[thin smelt]

Just get a friend and duo ken/gen, it's basically same loot. You need roughly 82k combined dmg to clear iruga with no bleeds which has the only enrage timer to worry about

[winged reef]

Doubt there’s any higher geared lighting bms than me atm

At least I haven’t seen any

[thin smelt]

Or trio, that's okay too. Just do it with friends not randoms because then you don't have to worry about losing out on a legendary split to some guy with 1k gold or whatever

[astral tendon]

or solo it if you hate yourselkf

[sick bison]

solo it and DC*

[astral tendon]

time took to get to the boss

[astral tendon]

happened to me yesterday

[thin smelt]

I solod it on my wind bd. Running back and forth was pretty fked. Mostly just wanted to try it at least once

[astral tendon]

fck this game

[spiral sky]

F 🧅

[sick bison]

happened to me today while tanking both, not solo ofc xd

relog and tank with barely moving

amazing

[spiral sky]

Soon brother

[winged reef]

Pls don’t outgear me

But you’re NA so it’s fine

[sick bison]

I thought you were NA as well, lol

then I ran with you once I think, I've seen 1 gm48 lightning bm

[winged reef]

Yea I have 48 stacks, from EU

[spiral sky]

There's is one lighting bm on na

And i still outdps him

Im 3 weeks behind

[sick bison]

oh nvm, the one I ran with has 36 stacks

just checked

seems we have 2 lightning bms then

[winged reef]

@grave hawk How’s the 30 stacks of stoned slash?

Maybe it was Saze

He’s gone for the purple stacking of stone

[spiral sky]

F him

[astral tendon]

and this is what you ghet

[sick bison]

oh yeah I think it was

[astral tendon]

utter crap

[grave hawk]

just did some rotation testing

its not that great

[winged reef]

Leggy has focus recovery

[odd dagger]

wasting slots on that seems so ass to reach 30

[winged reef]

Purple doesnt so

[grave hawk]

gives you 10s bd

[winged reef]

We really need that new tab and mystic badge

[grave hawk]

you only do half the dmg without bd

[spiral sky]

Ok

Lets stop talking about it

We don't create expectations

Let's talk about how dt will be poggers

[sick bison]

will buffed dt defeat vanilla pierce

that's the real question

[spiral sky]

Yea

[winged reef]

Lets talk about post patch tds instead

[spiral sky]

No

Stop it

[winged reef]

Where you do 80% of your dmg even without bd

[hearty ether]

agreed

[spiral sky]

Stop spreading miss information

[sick bison]

yeah, spread mr information instead

https://tenor.com/view/mr-information-ms-information-miss-information-misinformation-spread-gif-11050273668470141137

[fallow wind]

so sad to see top geared legendary DT on rank 9

buff dt when ?

[fallow wind]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[spiral sky]

Soon

Is coming

[astral tendon]

Is still crap after the buff

Although he would probably be top 5 after the buff

[dapper ember]

Just play what’s fun guys you guys can clear any content, the game is made to be clearable lol

[sick bison]

Neo, the game that is known for it's player friendliness, low time and money investment, and clearable content with whatever class you choose

[spiral sky]

Well

[winged reef]

WTB tomorrow’s patch notes

[spiral sky]

The only way to clear content in this game

Is throw dps

Theres no mechs

[sick bison]

being a pre-buff warlock

you could invest all your time since it's release, + thousands of dollars

and you could not meet SSG dps requirement

[spiral sky]

Clearly major player base could clear ssg right

On release

Because is how the game is made

[twin lark]

The hunt has already begun

[honest haven]

isnt that because he spins (deflects attacks)?

[rain horizon]

excuse me

[gilded thistle]

[sick bison]

Surely you remember dragoncall’s gear at ssg release, and the lack of dps

[rain horizon]

what should i say

i played shadow

without sb absuse i still did 39-41 on release day

but there was literally only one ice wl who had decent gear on ssg patch

from na

[sick bison]

That’s him

Iirc

Also when I say thousands, I mean the level of near max gear with max purples

If we add 3 leggies naturally it’s a different story xd

[rain horizon]

shadow legy rmb has no real dps increase in comparison to the purple pvp one

[sick bison]

That’s the conversation we had on warlock chat back then

[rain horizon]

because its the truth

[sick bison]

But we had plenty of wl whales back then as well

So either it does help a lot

Or all other wls suck

Hard

[rain horizon]

back then it did suck the skill

now legy shadow rmb is huge cuz of legy v

but both legy v and legy rmb suck without each other

v a bit less

[sick bison]

I don’t doubt it, but I still stand behind my statement regarding the investment and return of pre buff wl, if even rank 1 wl NA couldn’t pull off the dps, and 1 wl in EU did

Think that illustrates the class balance well

[rain horizon]

maybe shadow was just stronger

i never get to see the dif

only is told that ice is stronger

[sick bison]

It was from my testing as well, but people believe what they want

Though even shadow pre buff was rough compared to other classes for that investment level

[rain horizon]

i had the feeling that my spec was somehow stronger than ice

[sick bison]

From what I could tell it felt close ish to FM

[rain horizon]

or why else did they double ap multipliers of ice

[sick bison]

Shadow, that is

[rain horizon]

i had similar gear to valira

maybe 70ap less

while i did 42k he did 63k on ssg

[sick bison]

Yeah the difference was stark

But to be fair not main leggy

Still would have been behind no doubt, just not as far

[rain horizon]

i looked like a joke

with my gear and my dps

compared to other

[sick bison]

Yeah I rerolled from bm to wl

Both with the same gear, wl was 26k and bm 41k

[rain horizon]

oof

but now im sitting at like

220k

[sick bison]

Yeah now it’s up there for sure

[rain horizon]

and i wanna test the ice spec with same gear so bad

but not possible

[sick bison]

Idk why but I don’t think ice has the same endgame potential

[rain horizon]

i cant really tell

[sick bison]

Maybe I’m biased, as we just don’t see ice at that level to be sure

[rain horizon]

shadow wl would be the strongest class

if helix and hexstorm did not have the same gcd group

and gcd does not work on wl

[sick bison]

If they kept the live helix speed I’d still be there

[rain horizon]

yes that for sure

but they increased the gcd values

compared to live

live 300 neo 500

and the dif is huge

[sick bison]

Yeah the balancing seems random for a lot of classes, prob due to stacking endgame

Devs don’t even know what to balance around it feels like

Either balancing for casual purples or max leggy stacks

[rain horizon]

exactly

shadow wl has like 0 synergie between its skills

[spiral sky]

Shadow need legs

To feel smooth

[rain horizon]

all 3

rmb with v for sure

helix would be extra

[winged reef]

Filthy wls outta here

This chat is for good classes

[rain horizon]

but there is still to many things about shadow wl even with all 3 legys that do not make sense and if i list them, then i would have to write a bible

[rain horizon]

[spiral sky]

only dt,hs,punc... and...cof...cof.. pierce

allowed discussion here

[rain horizon]

pierce?

[spiral sky]

tutorial build for punc

[winged reef]

When you create a lvl 45 character they give you an option to choose between builds with bound blue books

Puncture Fire and Lightning

Pierce and Heavenly Slasher confirmed not to be real builds

[rain horizon]

imagine having more than 2 builds

[twin lark]

You see? my fcking luck is always this

[winged reef]

1

[spiral sky]

its saved for leg drop

[winged reef]

That’s a gold bid

Don’t bid 1 gold

[mortal briar]

any build for bm lunar connection ?

[grave hawk]

Think skyrus stacked that for a while

[fickle loom]

stack boot

hidden meta i swear but everyone is too pussy to invest

[thin charm]

I have been summoned

[wooden rain]

Only mentioned

[twin lark]

https://yast.vercel.app/?subView="TraitView"&p="NEOEU030925"&class="BladeMaster"&spec=0&neoSkills="H4sIALo6wGgAA2vaEpyak5pckpoSnJ2Zk5OUn5_tmVI8s3GRZ4pCE5AwXu2ckZiXnuqZl5JawQAS5gQRfCDiLEseiIqGsEtAVAGIKN0INss3sbgktagyuCSxJLVxG4oQ2MrM_LziBgCxv24ygAAAAA"

[astral tendon]

did they just buffed fm

what is in kr devs brain

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/smol-smolcat-smolcatcoin-smol-cat-coin-roswell-gif-5972314891354809109

[odd dagger]

how to get a lot of valor stones

[valid cradle]

lore accurate

[astral tendon]

yeah, only on attack

they have more hp, ice fm has way more defense

so idk what is the chart is bull 💩 ing about

[valid cradle]

The defense comes at a legendary book premium 😅

[winged reef]

They did nerf his hp by 400k but he still killed him almost twice as fast as last time after buffs https://youtu.be/KflfbTGXjhA?si=laFfMWuFusqBVQnG

[twin lark]

Man i really like how they fixed tab speed, that was the one thing i never liked about lighting on LIVE

Always felt too slow

Like playing DES

Does light have crit req to boost?

[winged reef]

No

Crit on rmb just makes you consume less focus

[twin lark]

Nice

I can actually switch, i already have the whole bound build lmao

Just tro try it

[winged reef]

I’ve had the whole build for months

https://tenor.com/view/sussa-gif-5432297967573209335

[twin lark]

Another quitter

[odd dagger]

always one of them pierce

[spiral sky]

Ok

I promise that i will make a full guide today

On maintenance downtiming

[vernal dust]

why bm skills are red on light?

[twin lark]

Looks more like violet and black to me

[astral tendon]

Legendary lightning is red

[vernal dust]

no way thats gei

[astral tendon]

tbf puncture is also red

[vernal dust]

light was better bcs blue

[astral tendon]

Red purple ish

But nobody sees puncture particle effect so is useless

[twin lark]

They need to add skill skins, i miss my lotus flower on 4

[vernal dust]

i just want the light bm 1 day before awakened patch

[twin lark]

Not gonna happen

[vernal dust]

that sound effect and blue particles

will be missed forever

yea not gonna happen so it is what it is

[winged reef]

Just don't get legendary and it will always be blue

[vernal dust]

easy

[somber kiln]

blue tab

nice

[dry fossil]

If i'm starting a bm at lvl 45 which book set should I take?

[limpid blaze]

[worn rapids]

Eh HS included?
Its different from yast

[limpid blaze]

Might just be tooltip showing less modifier

[odd dagger]

new badge alr has it?

welp , now i need to invest in badge , rip gold

[honest haven]

If ur not gona gear up, take the puncture books and stack lunar slash

[odd dagger]

check dmg with and without badge, on non crit hit

[fickle loom]

lmaooooo as if there’s a genuine heavenly slasher badge now

[gilded thistle]

[odd dagger]

[silk beacon]

found the police

[wooden rain]

Are there even still bots

[mortal briar]

can puncture ani cancel guys?

[mortal briar]

or someone share macro puncture pls 🙁

[hearty smelt]

puncture/pierce should be 85% in reality

leave it to ncsoft to "fix" the tooltips only for it to be wrong in a different way

[winged reef]

It was changed to 105% last week on KR anywwy

[hearty smelt]

yast hasn't been updated for the most recent patch as of yet, so it won't display any tooltip changes done. Currently its still on the 9/03 patch as the most recent descriptions

[worn rapids]

got it, thanks

[wooden rain]

the yast guy quit and unquit several times, i'm surprised the site is still up

[grave hawk]

the new badge has better light modifiers?

[winged reef]

No, only the mystic badge changed. Soul badge remains the same as SF launch, 130%

[grave hawk]

virtuous got 90% the other 130%

[winged reef]

Thought you meant the recent kr patch

SF badge obviously has better modifiers than Moonwater xd

[grave hawk]

what does mystic reset?

[winged reef]

It reduces Light Tab cd by 1s on every rmb

This one only

We don’t have this yet though in EU

[spiral sky]

Pierce>DT>HS>Punc>Lightning

[hidden pawn]

Pierce best now?

[spiral sky]

Im my dreams

[hidden pawn]

Wat is tier list now in kr

[spiral sky]

Solak patch

Reroll to FM

That's the tier list

[hidden pawn]

Idk how to play fm

[spiral sky]

Spam all keys

[hidden pawn]

So fm stronger than bd now?

[spiral sky]

Yeah

Fm is broken

[hidden pawn]

Which build

[spiral sky]

Max dual dragon some sh it

With a few icerains

[hidden pawn]

Ah so ice rain with dual dragon stacking

[winged reef]

Playing range class is worse than using macro

[spiral sky]

Confirmed HS players are trash

By ted

[hidden pawn]

Why?

[winged reef]

Boring

Get up close and personal instead

[astral tendon]

Max wicked twin dragon

fm is the most broken class so far

And the patch yesterday just buffed them

So idk the logic of balancing in this game

bm is in the bottom half in terms of ranking behind fm bd des and sum

Basically behind everyone

[sick bison]

pierce leggy and gm will save BM

trust

[fickle loom]

FM is always busted

[astral tendon]

what an ez game

[winged reef]

🚓

[spiral sky]

[sick bison]

give me that hong

[astral tendon]

i mean do we even need it

well if i go slasher i will need it

[sick bison]

I'm leaning towards slasher when i go for leggy

I want to kill myself in MSP currently

[spiral sky]

Swap to fm

[sick bison]

[hearty ether]

is neo getting solak though?

[spiral sky]

[astral tendon]

or you can gear up

Small mobs die within 2-3 puncture for me

Big mobs 5

Tho pierce is a bit 💩 I guess

Less damage in general in msp

[sick bison]

I get 575k ish per hour solo atm

it's rough out here

[winged reef]

I get slightly under that but I’m only at 185% xp

[sick bison]

could get over 600k with no competition

but that's not happening

[odd dagger]

yall didnt respect slasher at its worst , you dont deserve slasher at its best

[sick bison]

it's still the worst

just aoe

I can manage doing less dps if it means I can nuke some msp packs

[odd dagger]

[astral tendon]

it only becomes better dps after 170/180 stacks

So 10 leg slashers

Not that hard right

[winged reef]

You could theoretically get 210 stacks now on lightning with full legendaries

[grave hawk]

you still need stone slash

having it is great actually

[winged reef]

1 leggy is technically enough

Idk how the crit dmg from stacking it compares vs just stacking rmb

[grave hawk]

you dont waste time vortexing and with mechs you can skip some multislashes

those are always 2-3s downtime

of not doing anything

[odd dagger]

hs is 306 stacks ez

[spiral sky]

Leg tab

Coming

[astral tendon]

The issue with lightning is the same as puncture

Tds is not 90% of your damage

So get to 210 stacks means a lot less

Both at 210 stacks, slasher out damage every single bm build

and slasher can get to 282 stacks

[odd dagger]

kinda L from their part that they didnt make slasher better before when the game had more people. Even the people with terrible ping can play HS with max dmg

[hearty ether]

is puncture still the best build in KR? like scaling wise

[silk beacon]

wish we could test builds without having to spend

so i could decide

stoopidassgeim

[winged reef]

It’s actually 65-70% right now. With the current ap mod buffs it’s probably 80%

[wooden rain]

That's after having a bunch of stacks already though, not before

[winged reef]

Yea but you’re pretty much only spamming lmb and rmb now, and lmb does barely any dmg. Tab should do decent damage now but it’s still mainly rmb

[twin lark]

Not on NC's watch

[wooden rain]

I like how neo is so backwards that split damage between skills is a bad thing when in any other game it's just an indicator of boring gameplay

[honest haven]

is there an accuracy requirement below shadowmoor?

maybe nexus ig

[spiral sky]

Naksun

[honest haven]

so at 2.2k ur still fine for nexus?

[twin lark]

Which one is better?

[dapper ember]

2nd one bro

[analog yarrow]

Hey BMs, for DT build, is it worth upgrading to SF badge?

[sick bison]

I’m at 96% hitrate in nexus with 2k accuracy and lvl 65

So you’ll be fine with 2,2k at like 68ish

Though it’s hard to say as detect makes it higher then it would normally be, so to reach 100% might take more than expected

[twin lark]

Fr?

Fck i kept the first one

[buoyant jewel]

i think you'd rather get crit mantras

[twin lark]

I thought so too but idk. Would be nice if someone did a sheet about it

[winged reef]

Crit mantras are the best

Followed by crit dmg

Additional damage are terrible

[honest haven]

whew, I think I have around 2300-2400 acc at 61.5, but I got 2 accs with acc instead of crit rate (weapon...) and I'm thinking if I gotta reroll it before I upgrade it but it's taking so long T_T

maybe its worth keeping it acc but its like 350 critrate

[sick bison]

I would 100% reroll everything to dmg/rate before upgrading

it's much easier to play around with accuracy depending on the need via soulshield primers etc later on

but the amount of rate you'd lose for the (very late game) +10 legendary gear would be quite wild

if you kept accu there

[tawdry yacht]

it's works for whale

for the average player, a lot changes during the game

[wraith finch]

WTS NA leg thunder drake slash PMO

[winged reef]

[dapper ember]

@wraith finch

[astral tendon]

so many leg books nowadays

Wait for another month then it’s time to roll to slasher

[gilded thistle]

What's the point when twin dragon fm exists

[astral tendon]

Tbf you got a point

Time to f2p

[hearty ether]

reroll to ⚡ its so OP next update cough cough

[twin lark]

Thanks

[solar python]

You guys wanna know the secret strat to being a winner?

[honest haven]

F me then ;_; thanks

last time I tried rolling a leggy it took like 15-20 tries, now I'm at almost 10 on weapon

[sick bison]

yeah I failed like 15 times on my ring, then I just bought a rate/dmg winterbane someone sold for cheap

[sick bison]

so many quitters that even puncture is going down

[honest haven]

[spiral sky]

[sick bison]

someone is shouting 12k each

sub 10k puncture days are coming

🐴

[winged reef]

Ppl want leggy puncture now not purple

[limpid blaze]

More punctures to come soon

[static thicket]

soon

[hearty ether]

why is everyone selling their purple puncture lol

[loud hinge]

9k5~11k in NA

[spiral sky]

Because game is doomed

[honest haven]

well first try today I got crit rate, upgraded but I only got like 200 xD

on the lower end but w/e

it'll rise eventually

[sick bison]

a win is a win xd

[odd mantle]

one up for 9k atm NA

just need 1 more sell me 7k 😏

[spiral sky]

[twin lark]

No way to farm gold for upgrades 24/7 is pretty much forcing players to buy from market or wait 3 months worth of dailies to try to upgrade 2 accs to +10

[wooden rain]

What does puncture have to do with this

[winged reef]

I farm gold

Just farm msp

[odd dagger]

I think puncture is going lower, cause newer bms are considering hs over it. I have seen more lower lvl hs bms than puncturrs

[honest haven]

idk abou tthat

I think its like with all other classes, once whales stack legendaries they sell off their purples

and given that we got a 2 purple selector this month and more to come with wyverns I guess, people that went all in on puncture probably don't have more room for purples to keep buying

I think its good tho, it was kinda expensive

nice that they're balancing other builds more

[twin lark]

Ppl don't see the point on continuing when upgrades are always behind a paywall, unless you wanna wait weeks of running dailies or spend 17 hours farming msp

[winged reef]

Should have been like me

Stacked full purples when they were cheap

Now they buffed me

Profit

[astral tendon]

puncture sucks

need to play the real build

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it-gif-19335672

[winged reef]

I am determined to get a leggy book this week

I just need to do enough runs to bid on it

[sick bison]

knew you would buy it the second I saw the guy selling it

[winged reef]

How much was it

[astral tendon]

90

[sick bison]

now test it and report back

[winged reef]

90k?

[astral tendon]

Yeah

[winged reef]

Heard the guy that got it didn’t even bid 100g

Crazy profit then

[astral tendon]

Well I mean it is what it is

Some ppl got them for less

[sick bison]

if he's the same guy, he bid 325g, ex clan mate dropped a leggy and someone won it for 325g

[winged reef]

If I get mine in a clan run it will be 0g

[sick bison]

unless we had 2 leggies drop today in eu

[astral tendon]

kuko told me 4 dropped today

Idk I only saw 2

[sick bison]

wtf

can't enter a party without 1000g these days

smh

too risky

[winged reef]

I’m saving all my gold nowadays just to bid on it

If I get outbid then I get rich

[sick bison]

I get around 170g per day from msp

but I spend 100 of it to sell and buy more hourglasses

and the rest has gone to gear upgrades

[winged reef]

I’m only interested in upgrading my mystic badge

Gear is good enough for Asura

[sick bison]

I just want a bit more gear then lvl 70

[winged reef]

What level are you

[sick bison]

66 atm

[winged reef]

Ah nice

I would have hit 64 2 days ago if it werent for the maintenance

But today I’m not home so has to be tomorrow

[sick bison]

I think at 69 you can already deal dummy dps on ken gen

would be nice for solo/duo

[astral tendon]

I used like 4 hours class

[winged reef]

I think I have enough gems to grind till lvl 65 tho

[sick bison]

I got no gems nothing, just daily sell the 100g from previous msp for hourglasses, rinse and repeat

[winged reef]

I’ve been selling all the psyches while they are valuable

Sold a couple leggy ss chests as well

[sick bison]

I haven't even farmed multis, just do msp for hours then dailies

[winged reef]

And winterbane ring with double crit

[sick bison]

too risky going multi with no gold smh

[winged reef]

Most my multis are with clan and we roll

Sometimes I run with randoms tho

It just takes way longer to do runs with randoms

[sick bison]

even riskier with my clan, everyone has way too much money, and they all want the leggies

real plan is to save up gold then carry people

[winged reef]

We do rolls and I don’t mind

[sick bison]

spoken like someone not cursed by the rolls

think I've won 1 roll in the past week

epic earring that I then failed at 75%

[spiral sky]

Salvage gambah, no balls

[astral tendon]

Just duo garden with a random alt who can clear a path

make sure the duo has no gold

Ezpz

[sick bison]

that might be the grand plan🐴

now take one for the team and stack 100gm hs and tell us how it feels

[winged reef]

It’s gonna feel the same

Same game same content just big numbers

[astral tendon]

if there is enough books

Gonna take it slow for this one

puncture is serviceable now

102 stack hs might not be better than 78 puncture this patch

It probably will next patch

wish me luck for jiwan or mushin

think is gonna be the last one

moonwater essence wont be this cheap

for long

ok all fcked no leg card

[sick bison]

[primal hound]

Oh baby

[spiral sky]

whales

[astral tendon]

OMFG

i dont need this mushin

can you piss off

[spiral sky]

why the F this device registration exist

if they dont let me log in

trash launcher

[astral tendon]

purple is fcked now

good thing i always log from steam

[primal hound]

I changed to phone log in to use bns buddy

[spiral sky]

captcha thing

[primal hound]

And it unlinked my steam -_-

[spiral sky]

is f me up

[primal hound]

So now im waiting for support to reply

[astral tendon]

they posted in server maintenance

can you also piss off

[spiral sky]

indie dev

[twin lark]

How much this goes for?

[hearty ether]

i think this is considered trash cuz it knocks up 😭

[twin lark]

I know but for PvP

[odd dagger]

Pvp 😂

[twin lark]

Ppl still do 6s

[hearty ether]

o i havent pvp'd since bsh came out

[odd dagger]

Every pvp book is same price as trash since the demand is low af

[twin lark]

And that price would be?

[astral tendon]

8-900 eu

[winged reef]

I don’t think trash purple books even sell at 800 anymore

I see so many listed for 600-700

[twin lark]

Better than nothing

[silk beacon]

tf u rerolling to that r what xd

[wooden rain]

Been that way from the start

[astral tendon]

will do in the next month or so

Puncture has no hope anyway

[wooden rain]

How the turn tables

Watch it turn again in a few months

Ncsoft main money-making strategy observed live

[tawdry yacht]

now i can stop dreaming about cheap leg hs? 🫤

[astral tendon]

i mean idk what are you dreaming off