Blade Master

[twin lark]

Yeah

[spiral sky]

https://youtu.be/LRTb6HSWhcY?si=ScXjcTCk2VdGWt6R

Gold

[twin lark]

Lmao i never took pics back then, wasn't a fan of it

[solar tiger]

old lore damnnn

[solar tiger]

that fan joke got me

https://tenor.com/view/electric-fan-wind-turn-hot-fan-gif-4860088

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-stop-wont-stop-dave-chappelle-happy-dance-cant-stop-gif-11961539

[solar tiger]

u die now when u jump down while fan spinning

back then it was spinning u when u jumped ojn it haha

[twin lark]

Is that mod outfit, i don't recall

[solar tiger]

its in live server ^^

[twin lark]

Damn, hot

[solar tiger]

from last fortunes fasvor a few months ago

yea

[twin lark]

Oh it's new, no wonder

I stopped playing back in 2020

[solar tiger]

yes ^^ got realyl nice stuff past years

[solar tiger]

well u can hop on and check warderobe stuff for free ^^ that way u can see some stuff that might come to neo too

specially some weapon skins

a few coem to neo

possibly newest ones

[twin lark]

I'm never installing that game ever again

[solar tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/tsumiki-anime-waifu-miia-neko-gif-27055340

no its ok

no one forces u cutie

[winged reef]

I have around 1k pictures from live

Sadly the quality isnt high cause I used to play in 768p

[solar tiger]

dont ask how much i do have xdd

lets say a while driver xddd

all safe xdd

[winged reef]

Yes lots of memories

[solar tiger]

need to clean some of those haha

[winged reef]

Saying goodbye to Blackwyrm

[solar tiger]

omg u reminded me of continue my drawing

[winged reef]

A friend drew several portraits of my character back then, they're really nice

[spiral sky]

https://youtu.be/LRTb6HSWhcY?si=GoO3_InZDjPGlYMz&t=163 we are repeating history

[solar tiger]

hata hataaaa

[spiral sky]

hata hata hata

[winged reef]

keeeerp promse

hospital 30 miles away

[solar tiger]

always loved thos peersonalized guides for players xdd

[spiral sky]

we got update

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mTwy5HCL1cv8glVVYcoo_M4EUWtXWzptrweg7MfO34E/edit?tab=t.0

[loud hinge]

One month later from this patch

50% cost reduction will be updated

according to korean server

[winged reef]

We don't need a guide bro, this is neo. Dps dps dps!

[spiral sky]

thats the oldge guide

for live

[winged reef]

Yea I know but do you think we need one for neo

[loud hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986

[spiral sky]

holy just checked my drive

bunch of shets

for upgrades

raids

dmg calculator

rofl

[solar tiger]

when i came back to live it was in f8 rotation i was not happy with that but now i actually miss it

[winged reef]

I have this old upgrade path

[spiral sky]

ohhh

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1hX8HkUGh9rN8KfLf0Aa4ybcYjE4kHO2XldycSOnTDkw/edit?slide=id.gd09eb4f65a_0_158#slide=id.gd09eb4f65a_0_158

i miss this dg

ok guys

the most import thing of the game

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-Zd4d93BEaAdjlva0pfNE1KVDQ?resourcekey=0-o2wHV1P2ewHlsdnOP6IKsQ&usp=drive_link

[winged reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1eZD1B57Ts

Sadly the neo experience will never be the same

[fallow wind]

i miss

Arena

Pvp

so much

[winged reef]

You filthy bd

[fallow wind]

yes

i was top BD in pvp 2017-2019

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/spray-bottle-cat-spray-bottle-spray-bottle-meme-loop-gif-25594440

[fallow wind]

atleast im bm now :c

[winged reef]

1v1 me mushins tower

jk

[fallow wind]

still cant belive it they totally destroyed arena pvp

and even removed the sexy top 5 outfit from all inventorys in live

im crying

i miss old bns

so hard

[twin lark]

So easy to add arena back, simply by removing books from it, just select the skills you wanna use, you have 1 min to select them all and done

[fallow wind]

it was the best time and u can adjust ur skills depends on the enemy class so u can swap it up and prepare

[twin lark]

It'll be fine if they wanna make it like 10 matches per day, at least it's something

[astral tendon]

bd player, removed from friend list, added to the block list

[twin lark]

Why is purple launcher download speed capped?

Or is it just me?

[spiral sky]

MOML

[rain nimbus]

game alive?

[winged reef]

Yes

And thriving

[rain nimbus]

cap

[twin lark]

Damn, i survived a ban, to see dark posting again

[rain nimbus]

dont get used to it

dark wont return

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-whtie-and-black-cry-praying-looking-up-gif-553441503240360994

[rain nimbus]

do you see my tag

that should be yours too

[winged reef]

Probably a worse game than Neo

[twin lark]

Nah, it's p2w af, hard pass

[rain nimbus]

you just described neo

[twin lark]

Yeah but that poison doesn't have an effect anymore after all these years

But a new poison will

[rain nimbus]

bpsr

if it dies

i got azur promilia

win win

if not i have both

[rain nimbus]

pass on nte

[winged reef]

Random f8 parties when you fail a single mech once

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/fact-check-dog-cute-american-patriots-cotton-gif-9590438272537618028

[rain nimbus]

neo has mechs?

[winged reef]

I said f8 parties

Clearly not neo

[rain nimbus]

f8 exists

[winged reef]

For blues

[rain nimbus]

ye

[winged reef]

And nobody uses that

[rain nimbus]

ik

[twin lark]

Do you know what shouldn't exist? loading screens on map

Like wtf, why can't they remove that?

It's not F8

[rain nimbus]

loading screens on map?

like the portals?

[twin lark]

Yeah

[winged reef]

Neo has less loading though

In live sometimes you get loading even inside dungeons

Brightstone Ruins for example there is no loading when you enter but live surely does

[twin lark]

That's a fake loading, cause they got rid of it by using some xmls or something, can't remember, you could even revive without a loading screen, so yeah, those are fake

Talking about LIVE, idk if they did it for NEO too

[winged reef]

Idk, I just remember having loading screens sometimes inside dungeons, sometimes not. In neo it feels better

[twin lark]

So according to this, if they migrate to UE5 it can be removed?

[rain nimbus]

in neo dont you too

like after slashimi doing chef?

those portal thingys

[twin lark]

But that's inside the dungeon

[somber kiln]

But live has similar assets right?

[twin lark]

Would be a joke if we get a loading screen there

[somber kiln]

Live has way better loading screens

[winged reef]

Sometimes I would get loading screens there

On live

Thats what I meant

Specially in Ebondrake Citadel after 1st boss

If I ran too quickly inside I’d get a loading screen

[twin lark]

Fake loading screens, they just don't wanna fix it

No longer 2k?

[grizzled gale]

No selector?

[twin lark]

I knew they wouldn't add it, so no surprise there

[grizzled gale]

I'm just curious why they think a single selector per month is a lot with the current content

[twin lark]

Same

Wait just noticed they added hour glasses

Just 5?

Also, i was thinking the other day, ppl farming gold from msp, that will impact gold prices, which will impact dgs, there's gonna be so much gold on market for cheap, that not spending gems on it would a crime

100g 300gems

I'm calling it

[spiral sky]

ROFL

same trash BP as JP

[twin lark]

How do you know?

[spiral sky]

https://bladeandsoul.plaync.com/en-us/board/neonotice/view?articleId=688972105ba04f3d44dd46b5

[twin lark]

Well, not buying it this time, so at least i can save some dgs

lmao

This goes to show they rushed it

[spiral sky]

bro

lvl 30

is a f u c k i ng

insigna

how r e t ar ded is that

[grizzled gale]

I need to follow your footsteps

WTS bm

[fickle salmon]

its 2 insignia! dont spread lies

[winged reef]

The fact that the free BP gives 25 element powder is crazy

That’s not even 1 upgrade attempt

[placid jolt]

[winged reef]

25 powder total for 1 month

[placid jolt]

gg

（guys just buy hajoon box）

[somber kiln]

Gg
(Guys just move on from this dogwater game)

We love our indie games like bns neo

But hey

Just a bp i guess

Lets see what other changes come

[spiral sky]

its not just a bp

you can pay 8,5k for u complete new outfit

[somber kiln]

Im only interested in the weapon

[winged reef]

You better drop 50€ then

[somber kiln]

Aint even gonna bother logging in after maint lol

[fallow wind]

Same

[twin lark]

What happened to event rewards though?

[grizzled gale]

already sent

[winged reef]

Now you are prepared for Shadowmoor

Gz

[grizzled gale]

yeah prepared to deal 10k dps

[loud hinge]

server is up

lets gambah yaaa

[grizzled gale]

yea game might be saved if i hit 2 punctures

[spiral sky]

enjoy ur anklebiter and takefly

[twin lark]

Wtf i didn't get anything

Wait was it x3 per day or week?

[grizzled gale]

once daily for 3 days

[fallow wind]

@grizzled gale you NA ? Why u have coupons already

EU dont have

[grizzled gale]

I'm eu what

[fallow wind]

What

How are you the only one

[twin lark]

I'm not even gonna use this lmao, give us training dummy outfit

[grizzled gale]

[fallow wind]

Getting coupon already

[solar tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/tung-tung-tung-sahur-alexcraft7192-brainrot-funny-meme-gif-4715879311681591702

[twin lark]

What that supposed to mean? lol

Emergency maintenance incoming

[solar tiger]

[grizzled gale]

am I r*tarded?

wasn't there a chest here that you could transmute a heroic chest for purple frags

[winged reef]

That was before legendary book was introduced

[grizzled gale]

bruh

no way they're baiting me into attempting legendary

f that sht

yeah one more in storage

[winged reef]

wooooo

One more for the collection

[fickle salmon]

same 2nd to my collection 🤡

[winged reef]

Welcome to the club

[twin lark]

ofc

[loud hinge]

ES does 2 hits per click @somber kiln

[main inlet]

you are now prepared for shadowmoor

[somber kiln]

nothing is hitting for me in this game, and its so shihtty

[somber kiln]

wym? 👀

[winged reef]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1392902312938180668/1399951805441642588/image.png?ex=688ade38&is=68898cb8&hm=e9231aaf442e014b7b0ff93f14b21680004d574b74482bdb5558eb0beed96409&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[somber kiln]

whats your pity

[winged reef]

On my belt only 10%

[loud hinge]

ES in bd mode usually does 1 hit

[winged reef]

Necklace was 3 attempts

[loud hinge]

now it does 2 hits

[winged reef]

rest is legendary already

[loud hinge]

buggie buggie

[somber kiln]

oh?

like

you getting bigger dps now? :v

[loud hinge]

bravo to the winner

[loud hinge]

yep

[somber kiln]

oh is it a bug you're saying or a new feature

[loud hinge]

i think it is bugged

[spiral sky]

nice guys

i got the 3 flash steps

weeeee

[silver moth]

Do it my fen

Free uself from this game

[loud hinge]

[loud hinge]

do it Ted, release urself bro

[winged reef]

That was more for Skyze

I can’t quit yet, lightning power too strong

[spiral sky]

[twin lark]

Is 250 CD gonna deal the same dmg as 360 life drain?

[spiral sky]

do u have drain already>

?

[twin lark]

No, but asking anyway

[primal hound]

game doesn't want me to quit

[twin lark]

Grats

[primal hound]

no the drian is better than 250 CD but it won't show on meter

[twin lark]

Hmmm

[winged reef]

Unless you use the in game meter

[twin lark]

Won't show on azura's or in game?

[winged reef]

That one shows drain

[twin lark]

Good

[winged reef]

Azura’s doesnt

[primal hound]

what game in meter

for wb?

[winged reef]

Most people use Azura’s so they don’t see your extra dps tho

[twin lark]

I use both tbh

Since only azura's shows WB dps

I mean monarch

[spiral sky]

F u

[spiral sky]

if u crit all ur hits

6 hits in a second

6x330= 1980

so u gain almost 2k dps

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/damage-thats-a-lot-of-damage-thats-a-lotta-damage-jon-tron-gif-13054451

[loud hinge]

i hope this is a buff @somber kiln

[spiral sky]

call me flashmaster

[winged reef]

Lightning fast

[spiral sky]

if i have the ping

[winged reef]

Once they bring live bm to neo you’ll be ready

[somber kiln]

if it is, imma switch

[loud hinge]

aren't you playing hybrid?

[somber kiln]

pure fiyah

[twin lark]

Didn't know we could use partial sets wtf

Is this real?

[grizzled gale]

yea

[fickle salmon]

the left number tells u how many you have to have unlocked to get the stat and equip it

[azure moth]

is the Prepare For Shadow Sea Garrison event over ?

[twin lark]

Gonna check rn

Fake, doesn't even show the activate button

Nothing

You guys trolling me

[grizzled gale]

do you have enough space to equip it?

[spiral sky]

vicks is old

take iz boys

[grizzled gale]

[spiral sky]

60 years old granpa

[twin lark]

Oh sht lmao

https://tenor.com/view/old-folks-grandpa-granddad-gif-15296448

@spiral sky 61

Wonder if i'll wake up to a ban

[spiral sky]

that will be the best case

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-yes-nodding-smile-gif-16214275

[wooden rain]

I know this is about live but if you just want to do dc and log out, then you don't want to play this game

[thin smelt]

so you never have any days ever where you're too busy to play that much, or are tired and want to just do it quickly?

i am envious of you

[languid stratus]

Guys, Boot knockdown or Meteor strike better?

[fickle salmon]

if you play DT meteor strike can be better for the heat it gives, else boot knockdown for only KD in runs

[languid stratus]

Im playing punct, just got meteor from bound skill book ;x

[wooden rain]

Opposite

I realised how many of those there are so i just stopped, then didn't want to log back in

Abandon the thought process that you must play every day

[spiral sky]

https://youtu.be/gO5q9SH246k

Soon bois

[gilded thistle]

Shaft pass this time again

[solar python]

This was Blade & Soul, the only thing we still have is the DCs

[honest haven]

Like 2x es or 1 es divided up

[last void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1356656394631381214/1400035831284240485/image.png?ex=688b2c79&is=6889daf9&hm=b9b1a9f61d56690c842ed0c4d6f97df9b6c326f9f8f02ebbd0ca81e39177f1cc&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1391149264025030736/1400034912618418216/image.png?ex=688b2b9e&is=6889da1e&hm=011790757ccb4685b2a72f058150e04ee06a62c0941ce4910f163b9cf0506dee&

😭

[solar python]

just wait for silverfrost

[winged reef]

You know what I don’t understand

Why they removed 99% of the vault npcs

[wooden rain]

More value to remote vault

[last void]

f8 problem solved

[astral tendon]

Forcing you buy battle pass

And the battle pass is also bull 💩 cos every time before it ends you lose remote storage and f5 listing for half a day

Like is it that hard to make it last til maintenance

[gilded thistle]

Dunno. I think I'm gonna cash out

[astral tendon]

Are devs employed by ncsoft just that 💩 that they just can’t do it

[winged reef]

Live had remote vault in premium and people still bought it

Just another shietty neo thing

[astral tendon]

At least you don’t lose premium every month for half a day if you paid for it

[sage tulip]

fire loot from new dungeon tho

[gilded thistle]

Juicy

[astral tendon]

I mean hongmoon essence dropped

Is good

I need 💩 tons of those

Have 2x windshock no5 waiting for reroll

[sage tulip]

better than green book i guess :D

[gilded thistle]

[sage tulip]

playing without bp is gonna take some time getting used to

[last void]

f8 for storage

[gilded thistle]

[last void]

Wait don't !

[sage tulip]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/813142231321804880/1209991447248633996/evisu__20240213_1.gif

[last void]

||The safety's on||

[gilded thistle]

Okay it's off now

[honest haven]

Waow no selector

Hybrid til I die ig

[solar python]

could also just take the drugs

and roll Heavenly Slasher main

at least you are gonna be free of draw stance shenanigans

[honest haven]

Probably cheaper and stronger to stay hybrid

But in the future idk

I’ll roll my free purples and decide

[gilded thistle]

#prayforpuncture

[last void]

You mean pray it dies

🫵

[honest haven]

Watch me get hs and pierce purple

[fallow wind]

just wait long enough and they will buff different skills and nerf puncture hard cuz they want to milk whales again and force them to go meta builds so everyone rerolls and gets money again

[honest haven]

I wouldn’t care what spec if I wasn’t spec gated on new content

But well it is what it is in benus

[winged reef]

No spec is gated if your wallet is big enough

[twin lark]

You can't have more than 1k blessing for some reason

[winged reef]

Why did you stack the pots lol

[fallow wind]

hahaha

[twin lark]

Cause i never use them anyway

Wanted to check how much blessing i was allowed to have

[gilded thistle]

Slacking sir

[winged reef]

Yast tool stopped working

Game unplayable

[gilded thistle]

gg it's over

[winged reef]

At least the camera settings stayed

Rip pp meter for now tho gotta wait for patch

[honest haven]

oh wow I got take flight

[gilded thistle]

F

[honest haven]

thanks benus now I can prepare for shadowmoor

the 25 fragments, can I use that for a purple or can I only use em for legendary transmute?

[gilded thistle]

There is no option to transmute them for anything other than leggy

[honest haven]

aight

[wooden rain]

Of course you can use it for purple, 50 frags

It might bug out and give an orange but it's rare

[loud hinge]

50 purp frags + hajoon gambah = 2 trash books

[loud hinge]

ok

[honest haven]

I one tapped my awk earring today

[honest timber]

happens

[loud hinge]

show yours

[winged reef]

Why is Azura’s meter so trash it takes forever to start an update download and doesn’t move

[honest timber]

it's not an earring tho

here

[loud hinge]

i meant this, yes

did you make it

[honest timber]

I'm at 27 gold

maybe I can get 50 today

[astral tendon]

Fck this company

4 bullsht energy straight to 3 fragments

[winged reef]

At least it wasnt 3 legendary fragments

[honest haven]

is that the 2% legendary chance

ouch

[solar python]

its ridiculous how this purple chest is not a selector

it takes 4 energy

like bro

10k at least give a selector

[honest haven]

8% chance selector

xD

honestly yeah, I'd be okay with 10k selector once a month if they dont want them in bp, at least I have something to look forward to then

and not just hope for a build to appear randomly

[solar python]

being okay with it is insane

you have 18 slots for skill books

1 selector even per week is 4.5 months until you get full purples

1 every 4 weeks is 1.5 years

[honest haven]

well saving up 10k isnt that hard if u really want to save up, the issue is that everything is so rng

[solar python]

and you don't even get one per month

[loud hinge]

i'm stucked at 26 stacks 4ever due to this bulls**t oods

[solar python]

buying the battle pass in a free2play game should open the entire game to you

in Neo all you get for buying the battle pass is opportunities to buy more things

You can not even really call it a battle pass honestly the rewards are this bad

[spiral sky]

With this clownfiesta sh it show, i can see this happening all again

https://youtu.be/NYRAZ7FmCKo

[solar python]

Its not even a clownfiesta

its just 🤡

I just can't believe that NCAmerica has so little control over the production of the game in their region

It would not even take a lot of development of Neo to make it an amazing game

[astral tendon]

shafted by the game

1/46

also another 6 roll on soul shield without crit rate

[solar python]

bro gave 5 times as much money as my car cost to NCSoft for practically nothing in return

[astral tendon]

my god today is bullsht

time to uninstall

[solar python]

With trove you at least knew you were getting something

I miss trove

it was RNG but you didn't get nothing

[astral tendon]

at least wb bid still give you something

guess gamble is not the way

[solar python]

problem is

you can't escape gambling

[fallow wind]

close one

[solar python]

world boss weapon is basically the only thing that is not rng

[fallow wind]

i feel u brother

i feel u hard

[last void]

Thanks for reminding me why I don't want to try that box 🤣

13 to go 🥳

[alpine shadow]

WTB NA leg glove, bracelet, belt, and neck owo

[loud hinge]

this is what i've got after the gambahhh

[spiral sky]

Im accepting quitters donations

[honest haven]

that looks pretty neat

[spiral sky]

You used my trash macro at one point and wasnts to quit, im accepting royalty

[grave hawk]

Did they server merge with this update?

[last void]

On the 5th

[spiral sky]

No

[winged reef]

So when are you donating to us

[spiral sky]

Soon™

Silverfrost clearly will save us

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[winged reef]

Idk if I can make it till then

Over a month left

Nothing new till then or more qol

[spiral sky]

https://freedom.to/

[odd mantle]

i got DT but im puncture 😔

[spiral sky]

Set to 2 months

[winged reef]

What am I supposed to block

Neo?

[spiral sky]

Yeah

[solar python]

maybe stopkilling games gets through and then everyone quits blade and soul and they have to announce end of service and release server files

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[buoyant jewel]

I recently got the twisted lab life drain. would it be good to replace onrush with drain for msp (im lvl 57 atm)?
i dont understand how onrush works too well

[solar python]

you replace detect

assuming you play puncutre

[astral tendon]

I need everyone to try leg box, get trash skill and sell to me for 70k

[buoyant jewel]

Yep, puncture. Thanks, I thought detect was almost needed

[spiral sky]

They already doing a new game to milk more

[spiral sky]

NCSOFT has begun development of a new game in the Blade & Soul universe. The project is a souls-like action game centered around one of the most iconic villains of the original MMORPG, Jin Seo Yeon. This was reported by the MTN portal, citing its own sources.

An internal team called JSY Studio, named after the main character of the future game, Jin Seo Yeon (JSY), is working on the game. According to the plot of the MMORPG Blade & Soul, it was she who destroyed the “School of the Way of Hon” and became one of the main antagonists of the entire story. According to sources, the game is built around her image and events related to this character. There is also information that other iconic characters will appear in the plot. For example, Pohwahan, an equally popular heroine from the Blade & Soul universe.

JSY Studio is headed by NCSOFT veteran Kim Jae-ryong, who previously served as technical director of Lineage W and was responsible for the development of Journey of Monarch. He was recently promoted to vice president.

In addition, it is reported that there may have been collaboration with Shift Up, led by Kim Hyung-tae, art director of the original Blade & Soul and creator of Stellar Blade. Despite his departure from NCSOFT, he continues to maintain good relations with the company's CEO, Kim Tae-jin.

Some time ago, CEO Park Byung-mo approached Shift Up with a proposal to jointly develop a new game based on the Blade & Soul franchise, but the specific details of this proposal and Shift Up's response remain unknown. Ultimately, the collaboration did not take place, and development remained entirely within NCSOFT.

Source: https://news.mtn.co.kr/news-detail/2025072412171736496

[astral tendon]

At least it looks like a buy to play offline game

[solar python]

[spiral sky]

Nanaya

Stop gambah

Buy ue4 bns server files

[winged reef]

100k dps ready for TSM

[spiral sky]

Save us

[astral tendon]

i actually have ue3 server file

[spiral sky]

Suborn chinese employees to release tecent files

[astral tendon]

is it time to start my own server

[spiral sky]

Its late already

[winged reef]

SE is ue3 private

Sadly it’s got issues with windows 11

[spiral sky]

We got a old server released here

45 cap

[astral tendon]

I can’t find ppl for raid and need to camp for GM to carry raid

then I quit

And gm carry does not always work either

[winged reef]

The game doesn't want me to quit

[astral tendon]

💩 yeah mine took 12 tries in total and still didn’t roll crit rate

It’s started with a crit damage

Bull💩 rate, is clearly not 16,67% I roll evasion 4 times in a roll

Like why the fck I need evasion

[winged reef]

This ring took me like 8 fecking rerolls

[astral tendon]

Evasion to something else then back to evasion

That happened 4 times

[spiral sky]

Thats a nerf

Block>all

[winged reef]

If it was a low cdmg roll sure

Incredible that the leaf event is rng chance to get the outfit

On live every event you'd get guaranteed rewards with enough tokens. Crazy

[wooden rain]

let's not get ahead of ourselves here

[solar python]

I mean this unironically

legit just tweaking the numbers

game would skyrocket in ratings

[wooden rain]

it would be far from "amazing"

your standards are just in oblivion

[solar python]

sure it would not be amazing

but the difference would be astronomical

the game is that bad

where just tweaking numbers gets you to a decent, I would even say good game

[spiral sky]

[solar python]

with tweaking numbers I also don't just mean fixing RNG

loot tables are not even that terrible if the good loot was not sub 1% chance

its not a lot of 'work' you have to do if you know what needs fixing

[spiral sky]

That loot rate

Its for a non bless system

[solar python]

the main thing outside of the RNG is the skill book system

that I would fix

its probably like 80% of the reason why Neo failed

the one thing this game does well and attracts people is the combat

some old r tard in NCSoft: 'Lets monetize the one hook we have for this game'

[winged reef]

My Puncture journey begins

[somber kiln]

guys

im tryna look at the DT 48 stacks

not seeing it on yast

im on KR's current

update

wait

dont tell me

i'm seeing it on puncture

but not...DT

[winged reef]

What do you mean

[winged reef]

Only some skills have special GM effects

Most are just damage increase

[somber kiln]

so once again

Puncture over DT

wonderful

[winged reef]

Only Puncture and HS got special gm effects

This isn’t new tho

For Fire you have Searing Slash

[honest timber]

even the last one failed, truly a ncsoft moment

[solar python]

well at least you get to see the rainbow free upgrade icon

[honest timber]

worth

all that to get like 10+ cd and cr 🔥

https://tenor.com/view/anothersdays-gif-8682649277694789514

[loud hinge]

my earring is getting there too lol

[solar python]

okay but post your before and after

[honest timber]

hmm I don't have an awakened screenshot I think

started like this

ended like this

[solar python]

thats really good though

2 mantra though?

rough

[honest timber]

it is what it is

I won't live to see a legy mantra so I don't really care

[valid cradle]

+76 cdmg is pretty amazing

[spiral sky]

2⃣ mantras

[honest timber]

now onto my next project, evolving this

[spiral sky]

Dont

Not worth

Trust me

More and more plebs are doing tree

Good cheap leg starting to appears on gf5

Only acc is worth to ascend is belt

And it need to be a really good one

Wasted 450g and 75 stones in my Weapon

[honest timber]

I have a belt with good stats

0 mantra tho

[solar python]

that neck is pretty stacked with stats and 3 mantra

[honest timber]

like I don't mind 2 but 0 is nono

[solar python]

better goal would be though to get stats and actually put mantras in your gear

[honest timber]

well I'm not using that necklace at the moment so no point in putting mantras

[winged reef]

Don’t listen to Skyze

Just 1 tap ascension

[honest timber]

I believe in the 1 tap

[spiral sky]

I believed as well

[solar python]

1 tap that uninstall button

[honest timber]

first psyche

maybe my luck is changing?

maybe the 1 tap ascension is real?

[winged reef]

Believing your luck is changing is the first step to mald

[solar python]

this is where you stop gambling and leave the casino on a high note

[spiral sky]

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-do-it-flames-fire-shia-labeouf-gif-17696690

[honest timber]

but I love gambling

and it's either this or go back to league

[spiral sky]

D o i t

[solar python]

League of Legends at least only drains your soul

Neo drains your soul and your wallet

[winged reef]

Not if the wallet is empty

[honest timber]

nah, Im not giving ncsoft money

[winged reef]

Or you close your wallet

[hushed briar]

its a sign

[winged reef]

[hushed briar]

I got the tab and rmb bound now

👍

[silver moth]

Yeah, i will not give NC a single coin

[spiral sky]

Switch

Noballs

[solar python]

yeah you should quit while you are ahead buddy

[spiral sky]

Where's my one tap SS

[grave hawk]

how much does es still go for these days?

[winged reef]

Under 3k

[somber kiln]

@loud hinge is the double hit still there?

[loud hinge]

Yes

[somber kiln]

oh you dont use meteor strike?

also, did you get a sizeable increase on tree?

[loud hinge]

Meter wasn’t updated. I’ll see it tonight

[somber kiln]

kk

yeah these guys faked this reroll % chance

im 16 rolls in on my bracelet

I wish i was exaggerating

CD wont show up

not even a lot roll

something is up

[hidden pawn]

So new battle poass is ass i see

[spiral sky]

Deadge

[twin lark]

Image it says dead game

[winged reef]

I didn’t do field bosses

Couldn’t be bothered

[spiral sky]

Bamboo village plebs will carry NA

[astral tendon]

Took me 18 rolls to get crit rate

On soul shield no5

[somber kiln]

Someone should investigate and sue their ass

[fallow wind]

we should sue them for beeing forced to play a build and not beeing able to play whatever u want 🙂

freedom of choice where ?

[somber kiln]

Dont think thats actionable
Just a bad game design 🤣

[fallow wind]

+1 suitcase

[somber kiln]

I remember live allowing you to

But there arent builds in this game tbh

[fallow wind]

i live in EU and i want my freedom of choice , ncsoft forces me to play dragontognue with their bad system i feel mentally destroyed bby them

[somber kiln]

Maybe they should really make a skill book tome
Where you slot in the books for your spec

And not on accessories

Would help for pvp

[fallow wind]

just bring back old skillsystem

[gilded thistle]

Didn't you pick some of those DTs?

[fallow wind]

yes cuz ncsoft alredy forced me to go DT with bound sunstroke,bladecall, 2x eletric saber and 1 Dt, after that i just stick to DT and choose 2 more Dt ye

[gilded thistle]

[winged reef]

I wasn’t forced, it was a free decision

[silver moth]

Yeah, just bring back old skill system

[astral tendon]

I wasn’t forced, I just need a few kidneys to play what I want

[thin smelt]

This would be good to or what I was saying to my friends is that I'd he fine with the book system if it didn't completely tie you to skills and functionality

And instead you would slot them if you really wanted more damage

[somber kiln]

Yeah like one book you can switch between like pierce/puncture/heavenly slasher

Idm it coming with a cost probably to switch
Like 15 trans stones or something

[thin smelt]

Yeah like I feel like a fkboi for not being able to run my blade call anymore but it's a dps loss to take over another dragontongue

[somber kiln]

Oh really? Time to play cn servers

[somber kiln]

Yeah I dont use blade call either

This game really strayed away from the iconic bm playstyle

Basic stance seems so bland

And im noticing meteor strike aint that big of a multiplier on my 28gm DT

[thin smelt]

It is but at least it had access to cc faster and you keep all your block already

[fallow wind]

NEO strayed away from every iconic playstyle , since u are limited to 18 skillsslots and u need to stack ur main ability to do dmg so u cant even use ur 18 skillslsots

[silver moth]

Let us free to change skill, they can keep the grandmaster of stack book

[somber kiln]

The time I take to leave draw stance to use it, i could just sunstroke and continue DT spam

[somber kiln]

Yeah idk why basic stance is so superior

[silver moth]

They think it is "classic" bm

[thin smelt]

It's stupid because it means that for puncture it's optimal to run double crit on ss, as it should, whereas DT needs block + cdmg

[somber kiln]

You get to block whenever you want
Better block stacks
Better CCs
Got the most crit rate buffs
Hmb easily since hmb proc isnt on violent blade anymore

[thin smelt]

I'm not sure if it's best to run it on all 8 slices though

[somber kiln]

Im doing double crit ss since tanking aint a thing for classes specifically anymore

But someone told me this is how old bm was on live

Im guessing it gets better

[thin smelt]

Yeah but I am playing dt still and it gets a very large amount of additional dmg from block

You lose all of your passive block stat when you enter draw stance

[somber kiln]

Oh really?

[silver moth]

I just need DT back to aoe, violet blade viable on DT, and 4 stack dmg bonus not reset everytime i tab

[thin smelt]

Yes

[somber kiln]

Yup
But it seems too much to ask for

[silver moth]

Ok, maybe aoe DT is too much

[somber kiln]

I wouldnt even be concerned with puncture being a head of me in damage

[silver moth]

Since if DT is aoe, nobody will play HS

[somber kiln]

I just want the spec to feel better

Lets see if I play long enough to see DT shine again

Or shine at all

[winged reef]

If I get a lab ss piece with block and cdmg I will switch

Since it is better than 8set bsh

I think 2 pieces with like 600 block is decent enough

[somber kiln]

Yeah but maxing that out is yikes

Watch you get a bunch of double crit when you’re actually going for block now 😂

More and more I understand what vibe Onesun was on during live

Play what you like and how you want to

[winged reef]

Live was more accessible though

[astral tendon]

Is not gonna shine in the next 3 month

And who knows if server is still up after 3 month

[somber kiln]

And this patch feels so lame

[gilded thistle]

Ikr. Didn't even leave mushin tower yesterday. Just bought the boxes got shafted and went bed

[astral tendon]

Got shafted so hard yesterday

[gilded thistle]

I saw some of it

Then that dude has two SC

[somber kiln]

Everything rng related for this week and last week i got boned on

Well rng is on everything for this game

So everything i tried uograding or rerolling on

Failed

Plus not gonna spend 10k just to get a purple anklebiter or something

[gilded thistle]

I got a blade call

Probably sold already

[silver moth]

I got blade call on 58 box

First skill useable

[gilded thistle]

It's something I guess

At least not any of the flash step trio

[silver moth]

For me at least not the second dragon rise

[gilded thistle]

Oof

Second month boxes go on bd. I trust on the 2% chance

[astral tendon]

I got flock of blade

And it turned into 3 fragments

What the fck is this

Is worse than blade call

[gilded thistle]

It heals you

And bd buff

[main inlet]

[gilded thistle]

Too late, he salvaged it

[somber kiln]

I got both cyclones

Bound

Feel like i keep getting off spec bound purples

[loud hinge]

that's a sign Kev

[somber kiln]

Missing the main parts lmao

Tab and the actual puncture

Also
Is the dps still consistently doubled?

@thin smelt are you getting extra damage in your es as well?

[loud hinge]

consistently => no (it happens randomly), double dps => absolutely no but dps improvement => yes. Compare to punct => punct still broken

[somber kiln]

Hmmm

I’ll switch if i ever get a purple es bound 😂

[loud hinge]

you gonna need focus recovery from mantras

[vivid robin]

they'll add it after everyone gets settled n comfy in punct so ppl have to reroll gear & spend money

[somber kiln]

Yeah can definitely see a bias rn

But idrc

I just want DT to not feel so scuffed

[astral tendon]

Idk the decision to release them 1 by 1 tbf

[vivid robin]

yk

wouldn't adding sunstroke+DT damage buff into one badge, low-key balance it lol

[somber kiln]

DT isnt worth getting any upgrades

[astral tendon]

But all in all, with the current state of dt, 48gm stack won’t really save it no matter how broken it is unless they gave insane buff directly to the skill multiplier

[somber kiln]

They gotta look after their prized puncture first

[vivid robin]

literally dt could be fixed with a badge change, they're trolling

[astral tendon]

But even that , the inconvenience of playing draw stance kicked in

I mean

[vivid robin]

so i think they just wanna milk whales and buff 1 thing at a time

they'll spend so much more in kr

[astral tendon]

It’s still 💩 damage compare to puncture

Even if you combine ss and dt badge

Cos dt badge is literally worthless

[vivid robin]

yeah i'm like 5-10k DMG less

but yk i imagine that gap closing as crit stat gap closes and 1 minor buff happens

[astral tendon]

The distance between dt and puncture is too much to gap close now

48gm won’t magically double the dps of a build

[fallow wind]

Dt needs a passive buff , the fire stacking, just put a burning % on it and DT will make more dps over time

[vivid robin]

i told myself i'll just take it easy till i get my first legendary, everything is so exp rn 😂

even if i switched over even blue books are 1k a pop

[astral tendon]

leg dt lose to purple puncture by 69 miles

[vivid robin]

32k on tree with 18 dt i just need mah stacks

[astral tendon]

They need to cook something real juicy to cover that gap

[fallow wind]

its sad u can stack the burning effect only 4 time with DT , why they dont make it infiite fire burning stack and DT will do insane damage over time

[spiral sky]

Just need to stack more

Ez fix, nice game design

[vivid robin]

and i have an engineer coming out next month to fit Le open reach full fibre so I can get 1 extra dragontongue

[astral tendon]

15 is the absolute max

per 6 secs

[vivid robin]

should go from 30ms to like 15-20

[astral tendon]

Gated by animation

[silver moth]

gated by kr dev for sure

[somber kiln]

You got 18gm and doing 32k on tree?

[somber kiln]

Wait
Confirm what burn stack you’re talking bout

Im confused

[astral tendon]

The effect is in him dream

Not in reality yet

[vivid robin]

yeah

[somber kiln]

The heck

I got 28 and do the same

[vivid robin]

i'm pro

[somber kiln]

Or are you stacking es

[vivid robin]

nah 1 es

[somber kiln]

What

[fallow wind]

this one

[somber kiln]

Something’s orr 🤨

[fallow wind]

thats the burning effect only stackable 4 times

[somber kiln]

Off

[vivid robin]

i mean that's with 0 downtime, goated rotation

[somber kiln]

Yeah i mean same

[vivid robin]

idk my stats are decent too? ish?

[somber kiln]

Never have to be out of DT

[vivid robin]

how's your ping/fps, i use exitlag also

[winged reef]

Yea but you keep giving them money so you deserve it

[somber kiln]

I play with around 65ms

On exitlag

[vivid robin]

oh yeah, i also use es, i don't stack my dt's

it gives less dps

till i heard like, 50 stacks or something

[vivid robin]

yeah i'm <30 so i push out a little more dps cause of that too

[somber kiln]

Still weird to me
Idk if its just my skill issue

At 18 gm i was doing 23/24k

But thats pure fire
I guess hybrid just pushes further too

[vivid robin]

pings pretty important

[somber kiln]

Hybrid doesnt feel good on my ms either

Oh well
Tired of complaining though

Summoners are the real chads

They just enjoy the gameplay with subpar dps

[winged reef]

[somber kiln]

What was the message exactly 👀

[winged reef]

Well I don't want to get another warning lol, I just said to the guy with 2 storm cleaves what he could do with those

[somber kiln]

Lmao

[loud hinge]

Enlighten me senpai. I’m 30 stacks now but still do 32k. My ms is around 35-60. How tf did you do that with 18 stacks?

[somber kiln]

Im shooketh as well lmaoo

[loud hinge]

I did 28k as dt/es 22/12

[winged reef]

he said he has less than 30 ping

that makes a lot of difference if you're playing with 60

[loud hinge]

My highest is 60

I play at 40 on avg

[somber kiln]

My lowest is 63 lmao

[winged reef]

Plus even if you once you did x dps doesn't mean you do that much on every single run

[loud hinge]

18 vs 30 stacks is a decent gap too, i assume

[loud hinge]

Agree

[vivid robin]

well 30 spot on lately, idk, usually 27-30

[winged reef]

Other stats also matter + how smooth the run was

[vivid robin]

i don't remember, u on EU?

[loud hinge]

The numbers are given from the smoothest performance Ted

[somber kiln]

Also
Using meteor strike off cd seems more of a loss for me

And you gotta depend on placement of the boss and allat to use it

So idk

I’ll keep it over a blue dt

[loud hinge]

@vivid robin tell us your build senpaii

[vivid robin]

[loud hinge]

I dont think there is a big gap between 30ms vs 40ms

[winged reef]

Isn't that hybrid

[vivid robin]

18 dt 1 saber

[winged reef]

Thought you were both pure fire lol

[vivid robin]

that run was actually 14 dt i think

[loud hinge]

Im hybrid

[winged reef]

Ah ok

[somber kiln]

Wait

[winged reef]

Hybrid is really ping dependent afaik

[somber kiln]

Was that on summoner shred

[vivid robin]

but no i think it's just down to skill? i use raid also in draw

and uhm, stone slash for extra crit

[astral tendon]

78 dt deal like a bit more than 50

[vivid robin]

i feel it's better than searing and heat

[loud hinge]

This is what i’m about to say

Yea, you didnt even need heat

[vivid robin]

also idk why but at the end of a boss fight my DPS slowly climbs

[somber kiln]

Yeah i notice that for others

[vivid robin]

an extra few thousand

[somber kiln]

But not me lol

Especially destros

[winged reef]

I think that might be a bug

on the meter

I used Azura's for the first time yesterday and I jumped from 28k to 31k at the end

maybe I used blade call idk

[vivid robin]

when i get my new fibre ill prob stream more

[somber kiln]

Like this destro does around the same as me up ubtil like 20% of the boss

His dps spikes by 4k

Its so weird

[vivid robin]

o yea u also wanna kinda try to animation cancel everything u possibly can

i.e. when i use poh core i usually have ss ready to cancel it

[somber kiln]

I just hold tab

[winged reef]

I use blade call

[vivid robin]

and whenever i can't q/e into a safe position i flash step and spin cam so no downtime

[somber kiln]

Holding tab uses it on the next opening

[somber kiln]

How much do you do on hae

Cause i do 38-40k

But hae is such a hit or miss

[winged reef]

Sometimes I do less than 30k

it depends on much he moves or how many times you get combo kicked

[somber kiln]

Yeah hae just be doing too much

[winged reef]

On good runs it's like 35k-37k

[somber kiln]

Hes one of the main reasons i didnt think hybrid would work

[vivid robin]

yea i am not sure i usually don't take it too srsly in hae cause if someone messes up cc's or drive i cba

ruins a parse

[somber kiln]

You’re still so close

Wdf lol

[thin smelt]

Sadly ES needs to be buffed, it's still good because of aoe but it's not great to stack as much, it needs a legendary skill

[winged reef]

1:52 is quite a fast run

Some parties go until enrage for me cause I'm carrying people

[somber kiln]

So you dont have heat buff?

[vivid robin]

sometimes i use it but nah, stone slash

u shouldn't be so surprised :o

[loud hinge]

How many dt stacks of this?

[vivid robin]

14 in that

[loud hinge]

Dafug

[thin smelt]

No it isn't affected from heat that I could see, I'm at my office so I can't check tooltips on yast. Well.. actually I can

[vivid robin]

i mean hae moves alot

[thin smelt]

Lol IT doesn't disable the website

[loud hinge]

I did the same numbers with 30/12 dt/es stacks this morning

[thin smelt]

Yeah unaffected by heat and no additional damage increase from acc/block on ES

Koldrak's burning wrath is affected by heat but obviously that skill is a meme

Doesn't even have a purple

[somber kiln]

Same for me lmao

[loud hinge]

Should i switch to stone slash to see the diff

[somber kiln]

But this kinda seems like an anomaly for me ngl

[thin smelt]

Yeah bro but they blocked the website of one of our longtime vendors we are on terms with

Imagine

[loud hinge]

You’re not alone

Lol

[vivid robin]

i meannn

[somber kiln]

Kinda makes me feel like theres something else i can improve on

Hmmm

But stone slash probably wont be that much of a difference for me as pure fire

[loud hinge]

Question is what is something

[winged reef]

Skill

jk

[vivid robin]

you won't see that kinda diff

[somber kiln]

Not much to put into fire lmao

[vivid robin]

but if u have free resources, could always test it, perhaps on a dummy tho

[thin smelt]

Btw the legendary puncture range increasing form 3m to 5m... am I missing something? What value does that provide when cyclone is still 3m?

Like how does that even help

[somber kiln]

You know

When i saw pierce and puncture being “builds” i thought it would be me spamming puncture and puncture alone

Like how you spam hs

[winged reef]

That's how it worked on live

[somber kiln]

But thats such an underwhelming gameplay 😭

[winged reef]

just little damage

[somber kiln]

Yeah

I thought you do like a focus regen for about 5s and spam puncture

And that aline

[winged reef]

useful to proc fatal blade and get back into draw stance

[thin smelt]

Nothing about the current iterations of bm gameplay tread water on how it was during peak live tbh

[somber kiln]

Like how sins get that deathblow effect on live

[vivid robin]

yk i'll just find my poh footage that i recorded

that's a relatively annoying fight

[somber kiln]

Dm it bc itll get lost here for me

[thin smelt]

Fire bm was way more fluid with magnum badge in live with searing sword force and aoe

Lightning bm was still undertuned but at least you could play it

[somber kiln]

Wont watch it yet

[thin smelt]

Now you're basically trolling if you play lightning, which is sad

[somber kiln]

And the funny thing is
Fire bm seemed like more work to me

Now its so lame

[thin smelt]

I play hybrid es/dt because it's the closest feel to the original gameplay

[somber kiln]

When you c resets 4 and you did s to reduce tab

And 4 resetsbtab

[loud hinge]

You know? I lost to a guy who has same stats as mine and more 4 dt stacks.

[thin smelt]

Smh meeting starting early, cya

[somber kiln]

I got around 5.4k cr and i still do about 55% on tree lol

[winged reef]

GM effects on TDS or the return of One Strike Ten Cuts is what I'm hoping for

[somber kiln]

Only got 3.4k cd tho

[loud hinge]

My cr/cd ~5k/3k8

[vivid robin]

damn

[astral tendon]

73% here

[somber kiln]

You dont count in my comparisons lmaooo

[astral tendon]

But then with dt was more like 60%