Blade Master

[last void]

Are you opening with bladecall on her ?

[azure moth]

yes i did

[last void]

Don't

Use it for her phase

You don't need to open with bladecall she phases before you're even halfway through your rotation

[winged reef]

Personally I use Z and 2 and dropped Fissure

[azure moth]

im thinking about that too

but maybe because of the low crit

[last void]

What's your crit rate at

[azure moth]

i am always out of focus

[winged reef]

He has 3.4

[azure moth]

that;s why i need fissure

[winged reef]

Thats super low

[last void]

I meant on the boss itself

I don't know how 3.4 reflects at lvl58

As opposed to what it was

3.4 was about 60% at what 50 or 55 ?

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[winged reef]

No way it was 60% lol

[last void]

I said 50 or 55 I stopped keeping track of it really 🤔

And it was either at 50 or 55 3.4k netted 60% crit rate

[azure moth]

@winged reef btw how much puncture worth now ?

[last void]

You're on NA

[winged reef]

Idk NA prices

[last void]

It's a different market

🤣

[azure moth]

i see

is this glove worth

it only has 2 mantras tho

[winged reef]

Low rolls not really

[spiral sky]

That 130/130 ratio tho

[azure moth]

The glove ?

[hearty ether]

not worth the 4k tbh (if its the 4k one)

[spiral sky]

Nanaya parser

Never saw above 121/121

In a min

[astral tendon]

you need qq account in order to use it

[astral tendon]

is 130 but only 488 punctures tho, so thats like what, 122 puncture

[solar python]

like a chinese account?

[astral tendon]

sometimes both cyclone and tab dont crit

[astral tendon]

it skip rmb if both dont crit.

[spiral sky]

Punc ratio comes with crit

Its odd how u can management get 10 extra lmbs/tab

Even using global cds on each skill to calculate the ratio the math doesn't works because of the anicancel, but still the max ratio a saw was 121/121

[astral tendon]

idk, this macro, tab animation almost never shows up

puncture animation is barely there either

[spiral sky]

Where did you get that

[astral tendon]

you mean macro or parse

[spiral sky]

Macro

[astral tendon]

macro, is a widely used macro in chinese community

[hidden pawn]

Can u send me ur macro ill make qq account to try it haha

[astral tendon]

about 10 years old.

[winged reef]

[astral tendon]

is paid tho.

[hidden pawn]

Macro or qq?

[astral tendon]

like 2 euro per month or something

macro

[hidden pawn]

If it works ill pay 2 a month haha

Better money go for macro than for ncsoft haha

[astral tendon]

i mean if you somehow got a qq account then sure i can send you the macro.

[hidden pawn]

Cant just make one?

[solar python]

is it a id needed thing?

[astral tendon]

it needs cn mobile number nowadays

[solar python]

oof

[hidden pawn]

There probably an app for that

[astral tendon]

or hk/tw mobile number

[winged reef]

Worth it no

[astral tendon]

if someone has a qq account and wants to give it a try, lmk

weekly sub is like 50 cents, i can sponser it

i dont have a spare qq account

[spiral sky]

I mean you can share the author link, and people can figure out by himselfs, no?

[hidden pawn]

I used to have a qq account long ago

[astral tendon]

no

is all managed in qq chat group

there is no offical link and such

and all communication are in chinese

if you have a qq account

add this group and it has everything in there

[astral tendon]

if you can still login then its all good.

back in the day they dont need mobile number.

in fact mine still dont have a mobile number bind to it

[hidden pawn]

Ye thats how i got mind was ez to make

[astral tendon]

this is what you get now

[solar python]

@astral tendon does the macro require combat text in a seperate window or does it just do its thing?

[astral tendon]

yes

it requries you to have a seperate combat text window

[spiral sky]

Nanaya

Do u mind doing a favor?

Can u just do a parser with lmb/tabs in a min?

[astral tendon]

well i can try

think it has an option to not do rmb

[spiral sky]

[spiral sky]

Ok ty

That's not just a macro shenanigans btw

That's crossing the line that all yapped weeks ago

[grizzled gale]

Where can I befriend a chinese person?

[solar python]

in China?

[grizzled gale]

Online

[solar python]

on TW servers

[spiral sky]

Tw players assemble

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-avengers-endgame-avengers-assemble-marvel-assemble-gif-14593090

[astral tendon]

well i mean mouse macro, only lmb tab can get to 125.

not sure the line that was yapped about ends where, it does pixel reading afterall is written by ahk

[spiral sky]

Your line is way deep brother

[gilded thistle]

[spiral sky]

If someone is wondering, just check tab/lmb global cds and do a simple math

[gilded thistle]

Secret tech

[rain horizon]

isnt x mouse not way faster

[astral tendon]

you can try it if you want

[gilded thistle]

Dun have an account on qq, maybe in the future

[odd tree]

Why do people flex their cheats and think nobody will find out.
🤦‍♀️

[hearty sentinel]

The real question is why do ppl flex their cheat as if it was real dmg

[loud hinge]

what did this guy smoke?

[solar python]

Same thing everyone else smoked

No implementation of sales history

[silver moth]

If everyone wanna use it, then maybe it not the cheat anymore

[hearty sentinel]

If everyone wanna steal, then it's not a crime. Right?

[worn rapids]

Hello, is tru siren 150crate 130cdmg worth evolve into hexwood?

[spiral sky]

[grizzled gale]

ey I won something

[spiral sky]

what did you "Create"

[grizzled gale]

it was a raffle on some twitch streamer

[gilded thistle]

[grizzled gale]

I was doing a purple train, another person on my party won as well xdd

[astral tendon]

If it doesn’t edit the game file, I don’t see why I can’t use, not gonna go in to the argument of what’s cheating what’s not here

[loud hinge]

he must smoke something stronger

[odd tree]

It's literally modifying the games files to lower gcd and maybe recycle lmao.

[spiral sky]

Its a memory injection, in his logic "cheat" engine it's not a cheat

[grave hawk]

Would be more worried about just downloading random software from chinese ppl

Bns has negative competitive integrity with long history of cheats and exploits

[chrome elbow]

Can anyone send me their macro for Puncture on mouse?)

[astral tendon]

is this someone from here or what

[honest haven]

gigachad

[winged reef]

The outside feels nice

[gilded thistle]

[vivid robin]

how much these go for? 1.5k?

[solar python]

800

unironically

last one I saw was up for 800

[astral tendon]

1000 maybe, basically trash book price

And in term of 800, think I bought one for 800 a while ago

[solar python]

its worse than purple breeze cuz you can use that for HS

[astral tendon]

Is great for tab stacker

But how many of those are there

Also blue function just as good for bleed

[vivid robin]

rip, i was trying to roll for a cyclone

[winged reef]

I’m trying to roll for a puncture so I can gamba for legendary again

[astral tendon]

Idk there are 2-3 punctures in the market atm

Maybe steam ppl will buy later

[somber kiln]

bro, did anyone get confirmation that shadowmoor gonna start off as 4-man?

[solar python]

I am pretty sure its still 4 man in Korea

[astral tendon]

Is still 4 man in kr, what you expect

[winged reef]

Why are you worried anyway if you can’t do Lab you can’t do Shadowmoor

[astral tendon]

30k tree is fairly doable nowadays I think?🤔 at least carriable

To shadowmoor

Tho 4 man maybe not I guess

[winged reef]

And lvl 60

So less damage than lab and crit which affects dps too and rotation

[astral tendon]

We will see in a week and half

[solar python]

surely something useful in the box

😭

[somber kiln]

the hell

wdf is galeflash

oh fancy name for breeze

also is there a way to get rid of this ?

[astral tendon]

Maybe you can get rid of it from ui customisation, shift f1

Tho I only moved it

[solar python]

I guess I have a starter set for HS now, bound purple breeze and purple hs in the bank

I doubt its better than low stacks Puncture though

Puncture just too good

last time I saw a HS bm he was 100 AP ahead of me and had like 70 stacks only did like 8k more dps than my 16 stacks puncture

[astral tendon]

Idk, hs player exist?

[solar python]

yeah I think there is like 2

[astral tendon]

You see, mw wb ranking has bunch of 20 stack puncture players

Never saw any 70 hs players there

[winged reef]

My clan mate plays HS

Juju was stealing my mobs in MSP last night

[solar python]

stealing? I call that healthy competition

btw I tried my detect boost macro after tweaking the detection a bit more and it seems to go pretty well

but it feels pretty damn slow ngl

dps seems almost the same as normal one, maybe couple % points better or worse

I think the detect macro wotks significantly better on higher level mobs where you can miss and focus is just less scarce

[grizzled gale]

its sht even on higher mobs

way too clunky

[solar python]

I tweeked the timings a lot tbf

I did msp with it today and I think I can still squeeze some performance out of it

[winged reef]

Mfs will do anything but press the keys themselves smh

[solar python]

Without macro, I'd be playing

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1193429164955541554/1390438901759606936/hatta_60_56u756zhse7uGIF.gif

And NCsoft seems to have fully accepted macro as part of bns

If they don't want macro why make legendary puncture

[grizzled gale]

I legit never used macro for any game prior to bns lol

Its just how the game functions

[solar python]

BnS just doesn't have anti cheat

You can probably just cheat engine and not get banned until the nc notices a couple days later

[winged reef]

I mean you can macro anything it’s up to you

[solar python]

I heard that in live people just started blatantly cheating in arena and nobody ever really got banned

[grizzled gale]

Isn't live like 10 players? They'd rather keep the server running

[winged reef]

Soon more players than neo still

[grizzled gale]

Is it worth using purple selector on this for the gold

[somber kiln]

be for real man

[winged reef]

If you can’t use the selector for anything else I’d say so

Next patch you can use it just for the crit dmg

[somber kiln]

how much this worth these days

none on market

[grizzled gale]

Around 1.5k on eu, I've seen it go as low as 1.2k

[somber kiln]

damn

[winged reef]

I bought mine months ago for 1.6k so

[edgy plaza]

i ll sell u mine for 2.4 what u say

/smirk

[somber kiln]

i wanna sell mine lmaooo

[astral tendon]

1k for salvage

Realistically only pierce and lightning use it

And how many of those player in combine?

I’d say about 5 and all of them probably already had this

For puncture is objectively worse than cyclone in every way

[winged reef]

It should really be 6s of bd instead of 3s

Or 4s at least

[grizzled gale]

I legit get 0 pierces out during the duration sometimes lol

[astral tendon]

At that point just hold rmb after vortex wave maybe

Probably deal more

[grizzled gale]

I actually edited my macro to skip lmbs so it does more tab rmb instead lol

got better results

[astral tendon]

Pretty sure you lose crit buff that way right

[grizzled gale]

I don't, it doesn't always skip lmb but occasionally it will do lmb tab rmb tab rmb

[somber kiln]

think they actually care about any other spec than puncture? :v

yeah either way im sticking to DT

[silver moth]

Kr NC will do anything except follow china

[hearty sentinel]

You guys using boot or meteor strike?

[honest haven]

Btw do we know if insignia fuse cost patch will lower card fuse too?

[valid cradle]

Theyre from the same patch

[honest haven]

oh nice, do you know when we can expect them?

[valid cradle]

Expect is a bit too much

But the next opportunity is when the battlepass ends

[honest haven]

I see, thanks 😄

[wind heron]

@hybrid willow someone posted the falcon u need for 10k

[hybrid willow]

no ty

xD

[wind heron]

They are using your need

[hybrid willow]

after playing i dont rly need it

its just QOL

[astral tendon]

Is only really needed for tree

Better to just have a sum with focus q anyway

[hybrid willow]

yep

[astral tendon]

It might be good for wb if you don’t hold aggro , but that’s not an issue as long as I avoid Valira

[hybrid willow]

that not a probleme after merge i will not be 10

lol

i'm just ten

with my little 14 stack

[astral tendon]

plenty in top 10 with like 20 stacks

I mean is only really me Senso and neen have more than 30 right

[hybrid willow]

hmblock 50

[astral tendon]

Oh ok

maybe he doesn’t do wb often

Neen also rarely do wb

So realistically is only me and Senso above 40, rest are all around 20-30

[sage tulip]

What rank are you getting now?

[hybrid willow]

i'm 10 yesterday

if i fail i'm not

but after merge

i will be 20

mdr

[sage tulip]

Ah yea

Rip

[lethal prairie]

cinderlands that many stacked bms?

[sage tulip]

Hmm

Not many

[hybrid willow]

5-6 i guess

[sage tulip]

Few stacked ones are skipping wb often

Only chifu is w 60 GM puncture

There's few with 30-40

[gilded thistle]

This game is starting to feel more of a chore as days go by

[sage tulip]

Too long without update

[winged reef]

Hitting 60 today so I might start skipping faction dailies and blue train

For a while at least

[sage tulip]

It's boring af rn

Good time to take a break until next patch

[astral tendon]

Haven’t done faction for a long time and blue train 2 times a week max

[hybrid willow]

next patch 1 dungeon

wow

[sage tulip]

XD

[winged reef]

1 dungeon 1 outfit every 1.3 months, mad content

[hybrid willow]

i hope we get silverfrost (will not but i hope)

[winged reef]

In 2 live after 2 months besides having all the moonwater content we got Silverfrost with 3 new dungeons and all the extra world dailies

[wooden rain]

It's only starting to hit you now?

It always has been

[gilded thistle]

Remove the level cap already

[last void]

?!?!

Dno how I feel about the lvl cap really

I don't even bother with most dailies

Outside of purps that I don't always complete either

[winged reef]

Slacker

[last void]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I have 110% exp bonus 😤

[solar python]

you have 10%

[gilded thistle]

My bd started it's adventures with 185

[last void]

It says 110% 😤

[gilded thistle]

Fun fact. Most accessories cost like 200 each

[last void]

True

[winged reef]

I’m hard stuck at 145

[last void]

Let me just get that double crit true legendary accessory for 200 🤪

[winged reef]

Gonna lose 10 when I switching earring but I have until silverfrost to fix everything

[gilded thistle]

Oh stats are doodoo but the notext is yugge

[last void]

LOL

Fair 😄

I mean honestly I'd prolly buy exp gear on an alt if I could be bothered to spend extra time getting carried in msp

I don't want to do that to myself let alone anyone else

[gilded thistle]

I have a strong but short force master for msp once I hit 45

[last void]

That thing looks all kinds of wrong ...

[gilded thistle]

It is what it is

Well, carrying each other's alt is not wrong

[winged reef]

THE GODS DEMAND BLOOD

[gilded thistle]

[vivid robin]

use meteor strike lol

[spiral sky]

Using cc as bm

[gilded thistle]

Poharan soul core carries lab cc requirements

So keep stacking them damage books

[vivid robin]

get your meteor strike, don't listen to these omega stacking omega swiping andy's

i can't even find books rn don't encourage him

[astral tendon]

Scale ripper lol

[vivid robin]

scale ripper is goated

[gilded thistle]

True

[astral tendon]

Just have a separate accs for cc

I kept my old earring and put meteor strike and scale ripper on it

[last void]

Death is the ultimate cc , just kill them before they kill you

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[last void]

I meant the gif

[winged reef]

Imagine not having a cc with no books

[last void]

I've got daze for days

[silver moth]

x5 daze here u go

[astral tendon]

just unslot fissure

boom you have a cc

[winged reef]

I have anklebitter yes I don’t use fissure

[astral tendon]

[last void]

Just give me that 10k soaring falcon 🫠

[astral tendon]

bruh is not mine

and it cant replace fissure

[hybrid willow]

he keep it

and re equip

lol

[last void]

Why can't it replace fissure exactly 🤔

I'm gna have focus issues regardless I might as well get a CC out of it

[astral tendon]

if that just go with bolt strike

[last void]

Falcon is on a lower cd than fissure I think it's a better substitute

[silver moth]

Use both, and get X kd

Solved

[winged reef]

15 ap from lvl 60 too even though it says 14

But 59 was actually 14

But 58 was 15 despite also saying 14

[sage tulip]

huge

[somber kiln]

Think its rounding?

But idk what the point in that is lmaoo

Everything should be flat

So idk

Whenever I get my accs to true, if ever, i’ll be 1.1K

This ductile stone system is whack asf

[silver moth]

14.5

[honest haven]

why does this chat keep getting hidden for me, is that happening to anyone else? this chat only pops back up there when I type in it https://i.imgur.com/3F5QrtP.png

I havent written in summoner in months

but I write here often

[somber kiln]

Think only when it has a noti that someone messaged

[solar python]

threads are weird like that

they dissappear after a certain amount of time where someone didn't write anything

[somber kiln]

When you’ve read all messages and click off from the thread, it disappears till someone else yaps

[honest haven]

thats so weird xD

them summoners keep up ig

[somber kiln]

Bro thought the bm thread got nuked

[honest haven]

I'm used to it by now, I'm just curious why it's only the bm thread thats hidden and never summoner

[solar python]

BM chat is by far the most active

[honest haven]

I'm thinking maybe its cuz I use the bm chat on different devices at times? so that the "new" messages are "read"

[solar python]

BM has more messages than all other classes combined

[honest haven]

how tf are we 100k+ messages and #2 is at 28k

[solar python]

dead game

[honest timber]

will the number refresh when we reach 200k? or it just stays at 100k+

in other news I got cd in my sword after 2 tries

pretty bad roll tho

I guess I'll upgrade and hope for the best

[wooden rain]

A lot of non bms talk sh*t here as well sometimes

[spiral sky]

cap

yappers

[gilded thistle]

[honest timber]

got nothing from both monarchs

very cool

[loud hinge]

you didnt deal enough dmg to have credit

[honest timber]

I know

[loud hinge]

if monarch hp at 45% when i got to the spot

i'll skip it

[honest timber]

a lot of people + no parties

I got to the second one with 80%

did only 4mill 😦

[loud hinge]

i dont think you could earn credit even if you're in party

[honest timber]

I always got loot

[astral tendon]

maybe with party protect or sum

[honest timber]

this is the first time I don't

[astral tendon]

I missed loot once

[honest timber]

just unlucky

or skill issue

[astral tendon]

But I was there when it was 12%

[valid cradle]

Think you need to deal 1% of hp?

[honest timber]

yes

4.4 mill or something like that

[valid cradle]

At 80% I probably wouldnt even try

Maybe if its during a time when theres less people online

[somber kiln]

They really need to lower that damage req 😭

Whats the point of it when everyone and their grandma shows up

[astral tendon]

If there is a way to tell id probably just afk after i meet the threshold

Well unless I’m tanking

[winged reef]

Cant you add the name to Azura’s meter?

[astral tendon]

Tbf yeah you can

I added the name, but normally I close azura in msp cos my game crashes a lot earlier

But now it fixed i probably don’t have to

I can probably stop after a minute and half or so

Fck intel again

[loud hinge]

I added HE’s bosses (they weren’t on the list by default) and meter still works well.

[somber kiln]

how much these go for

[subtle grove]

how much purple DT cost now ?

[astral tendon]

13/14 ppl are probably happy to sell maybe you can get for around 10

Less than that even if it is a 💩 build, I’m not sure if you can get any

[subtle grove]

ok thank you ✌🏼

[hushed briar]

I'm Buying for 7k

Please sell

[astral tendon]

I’m banking on the hope of dt suddenly become op after the new gm stacking released on it

[gilded thistle]

[astral tendon]

18 stack, every 3 hit extend bd buff for 1 sec, 30 stack, change the damage on grabble target bonus to during bd buff, 48 stack double the rack up damage so is +1.6 at 4 stacks

Then fck puncture , pure fire here we go

[gilded thistle]

Probably, but thats with current multiplier on puncture

leggy one might be even more stoopid broken

You better get it day one and test!

[astral tendon]

That’s 7.6 ap on dt with infinite bd buff

Puncture leg is only 6.5

[gilded thistle]

6.5 + tab + lmb though

[rain nimbus]

Anyone playing neo

[winged reef]

Did you hit your head when you woke up or where did these ideas came from

[gilded thistle]

DT copium gm buffs

[astral tendon]

From Rownen 4 am last night when I was awake

[spiral sky]

Vicks missing u

[rain nimbus]

Thursday. Bpsr beta announcement

@spiral sky be there

[spiral sky]

Paytowin

[winged reef]

No lightning leaks? Damn

[rain nimbus]

Neo is

[spiral sky]

More than neo

[rain nimbus]

Nah

[astral tendon]

Nah, who cares about lightning

[rain nimbus]

They changed it

Follow the game

[astral tendon]

Still Tencent

[rain nimbus]

That's good

[astral tendon]

Never trust

[rain nimbus]

Cn neo is ten cent no?

[astral tendon]

Tho it probably will have a healthy player population

It is and it’s not exactly better

Compare to the Neo 💩 show

[rain nimbus]

And cn neo is good I hear

[hushed briar]

They should just remove that we lose the stacked dt when you use any other skill

So stupid

[rain nimbus]

I hear cn neo is like a whole different game

[winged reef]

Same game just different systems

[hushed briar]

China is always different

In every game

[rain nimbus]

Better systems

[astral tendon]

They are doing bt now

Not really better you still do skill stacking

Just the skill come with the accs

[hushed briar]

Old 24men bt

[astral tendon]

Rather than books

[rain nimbus]

Probably so many events and the population is there

[astral tendon]

More event for sure

[rain nimbus]

The server feels alive I bet

[winged reef]

Easy having more than 0 events

[astral tendon]

Every mmo have more player in cn server

[silver moth]

I prefer the stack dmg on DT become buff on 3 sec

[astral tendon]

Like if an mmo cannot survive in cn it won’t survive in any other part of the world

Which in a sense is sort of worse cos it becomes addition

Instead of multiplication

Oops

25xap ?

[main inlet]

yeah

[somber kiln]

Yes
DT copium is healthy

Bc idk the intended playstyle is one of the weakest 😭

[astral tendon]

Let’s not forget lightning is also intended

[gilded thistle]

[astral tendon]

And it’s probably about the same as hornet sum

[gilded thistle]

Hornet summ can support though

[last void]

🙂

[gilded thistle]

So technically it's kinda worse

[winged reef]

Has anyone tried it with legendary 4 and TDS? Never seen any gameplay of that

Smh I have to do all the work myself

[gilded thistle]

Time to gamba them both

[last void]

TDS is going to get turned to fodder

And 4 is going to a puncture whale

[gilded thistle]

Eventually we'll all get one or two

its just a matter of time

One year?

Two?

[somber kiln]

You know

Damage is fine tbh
Idm playing a subpar pure fire

But

Why is it that they removed violent blade from DT

Why is it not good to even use it when block negates damage

And violent blade still takes

[gilded thistle]

Of course DT is fine, why they neglect lightning that much though?

[winged reef]

I think they just took an earlier live bns build version

And didn’t give it much thought

[astral tendon]

1 block if not parry also take damage

[somber kiln]

And light was top bm spec

[gilded thistle]

We need to call a whale assembly to buy the ip and sell it to a good dev team

[astral tendon]

Is just draw stance removed base block

[somber kiln]

I dont take it in tree

But violent blade takes big damage

[astral tendon]

If your block is high enough you don’t

[somber kiln]

Is that how it was in live?

[astral tendon]

Basic stance have 1k more block

Can’t remember

[winged reef]

I’ve always taken more block damage in draw

So yes

[gilded thistle]

You take block damage in basic stance aswell, just not that much i reckon

[astral tendon]

A build that is more inconvenient to play should do more when hitting dummy

Which is not the case for fire

Also not for lightning I guess

[somber kiln]

Puncture got it all

[winged reef]

On a 1 minute parse I spend 20s without bd

Which is like almost half the time doing half the damage

[astral tendon]

Tbf leg 4 won’t really make you 100% up right

[gilded thistle]

It's +6s right?

hmm maybe it gets close

[astral tendon]

6 every 36 sec

[last void]

The thing about it is it also makes the gameplay more fluid

[gilded thistle]

Can math it out once home

[last void]

Like you won't need to line it up with a skill

[gilded thistle]

cause that way maybe i go troll with pierce again

i miss that gameplay

[last void]

You can use it whenever it's up practically instead of having to hold it every now n then

[winged reef]

If tab is on cd another 6s bd skill will reset it for sure

So 6s from 4 would give you another 6s from tab

[last void]

Also even if it's on a 36s cd it's not -just- 6 secs since you use it to reset tab so instead of having -roughly- 20 secs down it could be cut to 10

[winged reef]

And the new gm stone slash effects give you 10s of bd so that’s extra nice

[last void]

All they have to do is make the RMB take 1 sec off tab as well

And the gameplay just gets so much better

[main inlet]

too op

[astral tendon]

Is it focus issue that lightning can’t reset sun stroke

[somber kiln]

The bp gets delivered on Tuesday or Wednesday?

[last void]

If you just pop sunstroke , you run out of focus if you fully anicancel with 2-3 secs left on the buff

It's not a focus issue , it's just -not- a thing

You -can't- reset sunstroke even with focus

Best I do is 9-10 secs on it and that's my best case scenario

[somber kiln]

No badge no dt proc

[last void]

More often it's like 10-11

[astral tendon]

So not doable even with cat pin and you can hit for 6 seconds?

[somber kiln]

Idk why they just dont make the plaground even with the specs so people can spend more

[last void]

Nope

[somber kiln]

People would invest in their preferred playstyle

[gilded thistle]

Yes, pierce all the way

[last void]

I mean you generally -don't- use sunstroke as a standalone to begin with

I was just pointing out on top of the focus issues you can't even reset it

[winged reef]

You can use sunstroke stand alone it depends on your crits

Bring this to neo

[gilded thistle]

That looks juicy

[somber kiln]

Wait light uses sunstroke? 👀

Thought they used the blue tab

Wdf its like they didnt even think through the specs properly

Gotta mix and match lol

[winged reef]

Blue tab is terrible

Only gives 3s of bd

The focus is nice but bd is more important

[somber kiln]

And a full 24s
For what

Man

Imma moan and groan about this way too much
Not switching from DT in the near future tho 🤣

[winged reef]

Lightning tab is copy pasted from live

Except it’s 24s in neo

[somber kiln]

But tab procced a big buff

Black dragon and heat is the most we get

But those badge effects, and skill ones were good

But fire was actually work on live

I liked how it played

Cycling between z, 4, c and tab

Yeah but no way they dont buff either in the near future….right?

[last void]

The GM stacks need to be good

[winged reef]

At least the burst is nice

[last void]

As well as lightning has the benefit of -possibly- getting a legendary LMB

[silver moth]

Copium for GM DT and lightning

[somber kiln]

I mean buff to bring them up to speed with basic stance

That gm is just gonna be a bottom line for everyone

But again
My concern isnt too much on damage

I still do 30k on tree with 24 gm

Pure fire

I just want better ability to block rn

Lets start with that

[astral tendon]

on what

That meter doesn’t show up on dummy I think?

[winged reef]

Was on 2nd floor mushin

Died quickly so

[wind heron]

Ted do you get random slowdown on lb rb ?

[astral tendon]

That’s from auto gcd bias

[wind heron]

Sometimes anicancel become slow for me

[astral tendon]

Once in a while it well slow you down for 10 hits

And adjust gcd for you

[wind heron]

Its so darn annoying

[astral tendon]

Which is bull 💩 for ppl with low ping

[wind heron]

My hs doesnt slow down

And holding rb doesnt

Just when lb rb

[astral tendon]

It does that for me on dt for some reason

Puncture not really

[wind heron]

On dt it doea too

Yes

I had fire

[winged reef]

Yea but I feel like for me might be because of ping fluctuation

What annoys me is sometimes when I run out of bd my skills stop working

[wind heron]

Whats your ping

[winged reef]

Specially happens with blade call bd

[winged reef]

In game like 53-58 average

[wind heron]

I have 60ms

I dont think its ping rly

I can see the rb refreshing slower

Thunder

Its visualy noticable for me when doing lb rb

I lose seconds coz of it

[winged reef]

I’ll try paying attention to it

[wind heron]

My ping does not budge aswell

60ms

Using exit lag

[winged reef]

Mine can change a lot between 51-62

Sometimes it’s stable 53-54 and that’s when it feels the best

[wind heron]

How do you pb rb

[winged reef]

I think it also affects fps cause my game also becomes more sluggish when ms is higher

[wind heron]

I ha e macro spam and tried manual

Same yhing

[winged reef]

Hold lmb and press rmb

[wind heron]

So manual

Same thing happen

[winged reef]

I tend to double click rmb because sometimes it doesn’t go off

[wind heron]

Itried macro?

[winged reef]

I haven’t

[wind heron]

It helped me slightly

[winged reef]

I don’t have fiber so my ping isn’t that stable, would probably help

[wind heron]

Seems clicking make skills regiater better

I dont aswell

Vdal

Vdsl

On live it was slower

But it was cobsistent slower

Sry phone and big fingers

[odd mantle]

shadow sea garrison easier than lab? >.>

[winged reef]

As long as my internet isnt bugging out and exit lag works well for me it’s usually okay

[wind heron]

Aight

I got sun stroke yesterday purple

Omg those 6 sec

Helped a ton

Ithat blue man

Tab

Its so bad just delete it

It needs to be 12 sec

Or 10

It would be actuly good if it was 10 sec

I bet they didnt even think it through

I have macro on lb and rb perma autoclicked

Around 5 clicks per 100 ms

[winged reef]

Yea purple tab felt game changing, leg 4 will feel the same

[somber kiln]

Same
The ping is stable at 71 sometimes for me but i notice it slows down a bit
Like my char is tired or something 😂

Also
Do we get the bp box on Tuesday or Wednesday

[winged reef]

After maintenance

[somber kiln]

Nice nice

[wind heron]

what does it do? ive no clue

i assume more BD?

we need that RB from live that reduce 4

or something

leg is not f2p friendly at all

will still suffer a long time

[winged reef]

You can check on the skill tree. 6s of bd and 2 focus recovery on every aoe hit

[wind heron]

yeep exactly

[somber kiln]

This 48 stack is only if you have leg?

[last void]

That's standard legendary stoneslash

[winged reef]

The 6s and focus is regular legendary

[last void]

Gives you 12 GM stacks on equip

[winged reef]

30GM is 10s

[solar python]

the gm stack bonuses kick in when you have a purple book

[somber kiln]

sorry what im asking is not related to that lmao

[winged reef]

Which I assume is flat 10s and not 10s + 6s

[last void]

So -if- you have 1 purp stoneslash and 1 legendary stoneslash you get GM 18

[somber kiln]

Like the 48 gm buff we’re anticipating

[solar python]

yes

3 legendary books you have 48

[somber kiln]

Its only if you have at least one leg?

[winged reef]

12 is 1x legendary 30 2 and 3 is 48

[last void]

No

[somber kiln]

What if i make it up with purples

[last void]

🤦‍♂️

[winged reef]

Purples don’t have the gm effect

[last void]

GM 48 is GM 48

[somber kiln]

I see

[last void]

You get the buff

[winged reef]

You need the base to be legendary

Rest can be purples yes

[somber kiln]

Smh

[last void]

No you don't 🤨

[somber kiln]

Thats what im asking all the time

Godsaccident frfr

😂😂😂

[solar python]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[winged reef]

Before it was only legendary

The site shows purple works now too

So idk

[somber kiln]

Thats on their current patch?

[solar python]

it was always on purple as well on yast as far as I can remember

[somber kiln]

So first patch sf comes with the leg

[solar python]

[somber kiln]

Seems like a change

[winged reef]

I remember it being discussed it was only on legendary

[somber kiln]

Its what my clannies are telling me

[winged reef]

Maybe it was broken on the yast website

First week

[last void]

It was always on purp

[solar python]

regardless you can only get to 48 stacks either by being a whale that already has giga stacks or by getting legendary skill that gives you 3 purple books worth of stacks

[last void]

That's the first week of it

[winged reef]

Yea but the patch was always there

[somber kiln]

I see

[winged reef]

Was still broken the first week

[somber kiln]

So in that case
I need to buy at least one more purple dt for it
Assuming the next bp gives purple selection

[winged reef]

But realistically you can’t stack a second skill with purples to 30-48 stacks

[solar python]

I'd be surprised if we see anything like whales in other servers though, with insane amounts of legendary books. Most whales in EU at least are probably gonna get like 4 legendary skills and fill rest of slots with purples.

Puncture only needs 2 of SS and 2 of Puncture and you can take full advantage of the gm stacks

[somber kiln]

Well im only stacking DTs rn

Think the biggest whale we have is that baboyummy guy

Circling 80 stacks

Is 1260 max ap?

Rn

[winged reef]

I’m not gonna unstack TDS to stack purple stone slashes, I don’t think that’s worth it

[solar python]

something around there

Nanaya is like 1244?

[somber kiln]

Yeah thats the max i see like 3 people have

Exactly 1260

[solar python]

those last points of attack power must cost a fortune

[astral tendon]

Yeah I miss 16 from special insignia

[solar python]

legit buying insignia chests from market place

[astral tendon]

I have 1 purple 2 blue

[solar python]

if my estimate is correct that is like 150k-200k gems, if you buy special insignia chests from market place

[astral tendon]

During the steam incident

One way is to use gold to buy the dimensional chest for 50g

And roll it that way

[somber kiln]

Oooh

[solar python]

roll it or launder it?

[somber kiln]

Smuggle

[astral tendon]

Since everything you spent are not touch

You get to keep them

[somber kiln]

Reject capitalism

You guys seen any KR vids on DT builds?

Vids or so?

[astral tendon]

Probably nobody plays it

[somber kiln]

Most of the pure firm bms i know switched to hybrid or puncture lol

[astral tendon]

Pure fire is mega whale build this patch, and useless build next patch

So even tho I’m already dumb enough to spend in this game, not gonna stack leg dt then switch next patch

[vivid robin]

hybrid is still stronger (than pure fire), until they do some buff to DT with stacked skills

i just don't know if they're gonna completely neglect saber in the future

[somber kiln]

I used to care about dps but idm it
I prefer not playing with macros

[astral tendon]

then yeah pure fire is the only viable option

[somber kiln]

Only thing that pisses me off is when my sunstrokes dont be critting lol

[vivid robin]

i'm not a fan either, but i use g-shift

[somber kiln]

If it gets to the point i cant clear dungeons bc of the build
Then i’ll consider switching

[somber kiln]

Whats that

[vivid robin]

holding a side button on my mouse enables macros, so i can immediately switch between say a hybrid dt macro and manual play

[somber kiln]

Oh yeah i used to do that when i tried

So i can switch to dt spam instead

But macros just dont feel good for me

[vivid robin]

yea you quickly get used to it, i use logitech g hub for mine

[somber kiln]

With my ping

[vivid robin]

hows your ping?

[somber kiln]

I got the g502 hero but never figured out how to use the macro on it

So i do xmouse

[somber kiln]

71-75

[vivid robin]

i hate that software, i tried it out and when you're jumping around/activate your macro the camera screen locks

it's buggy trash for me

[vivid robin]

ah oof, use exitlag too?

[somber kiln]

Yeah i get 130 without it

[vivid robin]

ah yeah i guess pure fire is best for you, tbh in the future it should get stronger, i'd be shocked if they didn't buff it

i'm sure they'll neglect hybrid tho

[somber kiln]

Yeah
Since that was just something people made off the fly

Prolly not intended

[loud hinge]

I’m looking for the same price

[somber kiln]

If i get DT for 7k i’ll cop 2 rn 😂😂😂

[hushed briar]

[somber kiln]

It seems like i’ll be using my old badges in sf?

No substroke badge from what im seeing?

Idk if virt mysticc will change either

[astral tendon]

No sun stroke and dt mystic is nerfed from 1 sec to 0.7 sec

[somber kiln]

Virt stays the same at 1s?

[astral tendon]

Should be

Tho I’m not sure

[buoyant jewel]

What lvl did you guys start doing 60 mob in msp for puncture builds?

[spiral sky]

55

[somber kiln]

Put on a detect set
Should help

[astral tendon]

59

Was doing them with dragontounge before that

[buoyant jewel]

It didn't seem bad when I tried some 60 but was wondering if i was griefing myself too much with lvl difference if im 55/56

[somber kiln]

Yeah purple tab on puncture should make it good

When they evade on dt

It feels so terrible

I gotta duo it

[astral tendon]

No cd reduction when dt got evaded

Tho I have big gun set on always so it’s sort of fine

[hearty ether]

does anyone know if stone slash is more beneficial to hybrid fire or is searing slash better?

[solar python]

53

even if you have to go one by one mob wise its still far better than 57s

as long as you pay attention and parry a lot there should be no issues killing 60 mobs from level 50 onwards with decent gear

57 mobs give almost half the exp so you can legit just take your time

and do better killing 60 mobs

[somber kiln]

Im guessing searing for the heat buff

That 6s of heat is really good

It increases DT Damage

[hearty ether]

yeah that is what i was thinking too even tho stone slash's dmg looks rly appealing @ first haha

[somber kiln]

DT your main damage anyway
If you can get purple meteor strike that helps with the upkeep too

[vivid robin]

yeah searing slash 100%, i'm using stone slash in hybrid though cause i picked up a bound book and will prob switch specs later

[vivid robin]

so long as you have decent accuracy/detect, try it out, just make sure you can sustain yourself, like kill 2 big mobs, then an aoe pack with your aoe skills off cd + poh soulcore, then repeat

[last void]

Stay tuned for episode 2 🤪

[vivid robin]

my msp rotation, can use the speedbuff if u fast enough, i'm hybrid rn but wont make a diff @buoyant jewel

[buoyant jewel]

looks good, tyvm!

[grizzled gale]

stop doing this to yourself

[last void]

But lemondary stone slash 😭

[solar python]

all you are gonna get is legendary depression

[last void]

Joke's on you

Already hit mythic on that one

[solar python]

NCSoft is making a new tier of depression to milk you further

[last void]

I played league , it can get a lot worse !

[grizzled gale]

I'm never interacting ever with that legendary system lol

[last void]

Perfect !

Send your fodder my way

More for me 🤪

Honestly I don't blame you and if stone slash wasn't just such a major QoL for me I wouldn't either

[grizzled gale]

You're assuming I see purples at all to begin with

[last void]

LOL

Fair point 🤣

[solar python]

I could understand going for it if the 500 gold transmute made a legendary selector but it being a random box again is some insanely delusional stuff ngl

[last void]

Honestly for me I'm mainly interested in it to make the gameplay more fluid than anything else

[valid cradle]

Adding more legendary skills makes it even more crazy

[last void]

Ye which is why I'm trying to get it before that happens ^

[last void]

Fact of the matter is if I get one I'm not gna RNG 3 frags

[solar python]

legit 12-14k for 5% chance at a legendary skill, 5/6 chance you get a trash legendary, 1 in 3 chance you get 3 pages when salvaging, and then 10k to reroll if you get 4 pages, and if you didn't get the skill you wanted its again 1 in 3 to get 3 pages

[last void]

I'll see what deals I can make with it

[grizzled gale]

Legit biggest whale bait I've ever seen its mind boggling

[loud hinge]

you will get burned out if everything is too ez to obtain.
you will get depressed if anything is too hard to obtain.
By either way, you will quit soon or later

[solar python]

and it gets worse with legendary puncture because they add 2 more skills

so your chances go down for the one you want

[last void]

Agreed but realistically , am I going to be able to buy it any time soon ? 🤣

Or at all for that matter

I'm not arguing the numbers

Are you going to pay 100k+- for a legendary skill ?

[astral tendon]

I’m ready to pay 100k for trash leg skill

[solar python]

260k to get one legendary skill with cheap fodder books, 10k per reroll, on average you need another legendary skill before you get the one you want, 520k gems on average for the legendary skill you want without reroll costs which adds probably another 40k gems

[last void]

See , kind of my point 🤣

[last void]

Throw numbers around all you want , fact of the matter is I ain't buying it off of anyone anytime soon

[solar python]

fact of the matter is you are not gonna get one yourself anytime soon either

[last void]

My chances regardless of how low they are to get it from the box are still better than buying it off of anyone else

[last void]

I'm sooner to get it myself than to buy it off of anyone that's for sure 🤣

[astral tendon]

This is the bait tbf

My original intention was also to get stone slash

Look at where I end up with

[solar python]

Did you sell the legendary DT?

or keeping it for rerolling?

[astral tendon]

Keep for reroll

If they have event for leg frag then it’s all good

[solar python]

surely

events?

We have so many of them

[loud hinge]

will you sell your main leg book to max out your gears & purp skills Juju? I keep asking myself

[solar python]

If I was stupid enough to gamble for legendary and I got one I would immediately sell it for good price

[astral tendon]

Is not my main leg book anymore

It’s eating dust in the storage

[astral tendon]

Which is not possible

Unless you are outrageously lucky

The best you can pretty much get is the cost

[last void]

Yeah but tbh if I was playing any other build I wouldn't care

[solar python]

Yep

[astral tendon]

You get it in more than 5 tries you will lose money doesn’t matter what bm book you get

[solar python]

5 tries would 'only' be like 70-80k no?

[astral tendon]

Assuming you buy all book with around 1k

[solar python]

surely you can sell random legendary books for like 100k+ easily

[astral tendon]

Trash you can sell 70-80, main skill someone may pay 150 for it but bm probably no

[astral tendon]

Well is not as easy as you think

[solar python]

Yeah, I know dead game

there is probably not even 5 people that are even trying to buy one

[somber kiln]

Know a guy who salvaged leg ep to get bombard

[winged reef]

Lightning can use 2 of the 6 legendaries

[astral tendon]

Stone slash probably give she biggest boost out of the 2 i assume

[last void]

Possibly and probably , at any rate it affects the gameplay more than the TDS . And I highly doubt TDS will -ever- be up for sale and not used as fodder

[honest timber]

is anyone else getting dc on exile?

[solar python]

no whale would choose to play Lightning so yeah probably

[last void]

And so I roll for it 😄

[solar python]

I mean if it gets sold as fodder you can also just buy it and use it

both are valid

[last void]

Not going to pay 100k for it

Like ?!?

[solar python]

rolling for it is even more than 100k?

unless you get lucky

[last void]

Cba putting books up for sale

[solar python]

like really lucky

[last void]

I just transmute if I get a fodder book I salvage

[solar python]

you have to get it within less than like 7 tries

and then you are already nearly over 100k

when its a 1/20

the math ain't mathing

[last void]

It'll work , 2nd try. Easy

[solar python]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[last void]

Whatever gets you to stop throwing numbers I already have my way

🤣

[winged reef]

Imagine you’re doing high stable dps on tree but your focus is about to run out and everything is on cd but 4 is about to become available
Instead of spamming breeze and ani canceling without bd for 10s waiting for tab and doing no damage you get another 6s of bd with focus recovery and tab off cd afterwards

That’s how good it’d be

What I dream about every night

[somber kiln]

Bro bricked up typing this

[winged reef]

[silent pelican]

WTB Heroic Skill Book [Soaring Falcon] BM ( server NA)

[spiral sky]

rem help me

[gilded thistle]

Next one for sure

[grizzled gale]

you're cooked

I'll have to wait after patch to tap mine

[solar python]

https://tenor.com/view/my-first-girlfriend-turned-into-the-moon-thats-rough-that-rough-buddy-avatar-avatar-the-last-airbender-gif-5710468

[winged reef]

My necklace is at 20%, failed it today again

[somber kiln]

rng bad

[vivid robin]

True Siren?

[winged reef]

Yes to legendary

[vivid robin]

Ah, I took my legendary to awakened and it went all the way to 100%

I hope you have some juicy stats at least

[winged reef]

It's got decent double crit stats and 3 mantra slots yea

Don't remember the exact values

Had a picture actually https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1357788582617813132/1393357537419726938/image.png?ex=68816154&is=68800fd4&hm=483aba5c13966cf060d5c89a3e01d6ec81bc470ff16ada3d4b30dc30cc9030e0&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[grizzled gale]

wouldn't it be better to ascend belt instead? leg necklaces are quite accessible

[winged reef]

Got this neck for quite cheap with high crit roll so I thought I'd upgrade it

my belt has a very cdmg roll but the other one is accuracy so i'm not sure I want to upgrade it yet before rerolling it, but I could use the accuracy for now

[vivid robin]

yeah that's solid, I'd be upgrading it too

my siren had 2 mantras and low roll, ended up sticking with a c.dmg / acc leg neck

had to reroll several times to even get acc

[winged reef]

Not sure if I want to keep accuracy but since I'm still missing against lvl 60 mobs at lvl 60 maybe I should keep it

and psyches don't give me accuracy rolls

the belt psyche gave me acc but that's a wasted cdmg roll

[silent pelican]

WTB Heroic Skill Book [Soaring Falcon] BM ( server NA)

[thin smelt]

really depends though, because in my case I have fun sparring or any form of PvP so I'd be pretty hyped if I got a lightning draw, but yeah doesn't change the main point of the conversation - whale bait

[azure moth]

Anyone has any idea about the shadow sea event ?

[solar tiger]

Shadowmoore Dungeon probably and some rewards related to that

Not sure what is going to come tbh

Could be Something else too like a Dungeon reward thingy

Just wait cuz maintenance will be done soon and we will see whats added

Nvm now u can check ingame

Maintenance done

[fallow wind]

i think its some boxes u can buy with gems

as per usual

[spiral sky]

free trash insginas and cards

if it is box

might be this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_g8YId5J98

[winged reef]

There is no new box

Nothing new in game from what I’ve seen

[placid jolt]

[somber kiln]

this gotta be a cope price right? o;

[loud hinge]

is ncsoft motivating gamblers to yolo leg books?

[winged reef]

Can’t wait to go 0/2

[somber kiln]

theres a selection chest there

@winged reef