Blade Master

[astral tendon]

nowadays thats what i do

bought one for 800 yesterday

leg book is too painful to gamble for

[coarse sun]

merciful gamblers please spare some pierce crumbs

[astral tendon]

lol

is going in to salvage territory

[winged reef]

I think that’s one of those books that won’t go down more than 2k-3k

[grizzled gale]

I'm still yet to see a reasonably priced Z

[gilded thistle]

How many more do you need? i was going to buy a full build for my alt

can wait

[coarse sun]

i need 6 more but i have no gems so dont worry about it

appreciate it thoughh

[gilded thistle]

I guess i'll wait

It's doing fine as hybrid for now

[coarse sun]

i mean i am f2p so very low prospect of buying any more than 1 more book for a few weeks

really not worth waiting

[hybrid willow]

let my sun stroke

https://tenor.com/view/hmmmm-gif-6596276820749982574

buy it rich

@gilded thistle sell me your soaring falcon i beg you

[astral tendon]

i mean

is it even that important

probably not

[hybrid willow]

i dont think but why not

[winged reef]

Chifu’s alt the new Maria?

[hybrid willow]

find me one you have contact i swear

[last void]

I dno how important it is for puncture builds I know it's a huge improvement over fissure for lightning

Mainly due to the cd

And the fact that I get anklebiter back -.-

[solar python]

nice card

[grizzled gale]

I never saw a hair drop since day 1

[last void]

I saw it once in my first few runs and never again 🤣

[loud hinge]

i'm ready for next patch ya

[last void]

Question is if you have the gold for it

[loud hinge]

i'm also stacking gold

hopefully it will be enough

but 50% cost reduction is huge

[solar python]

ready to be dissappointed when that feature is delayed

[loud hinge]

pls dont say that

[solar python]

I can smell it already

[loud hinge]

lol

[solar python]

the stench of the greed

the gm system with stacks is coming to incentivize whales to get to 48 stacks

but no extra legendary stuff

implement it just to squeeze the last bit out of purple books

[loud hinge]

i've heard of it

can i have a link or a screenshot about that if u dont mind Juju?

[solar python]

its only puncture, heavenly slasher, searing slash and stone slash that get them afaik

they are on yast already

just swap to KR

[loud hinge]

puncture gets buffed

[solar python]

not just buffed

they recognize it as a proper build

which is huge

it basically means they won't nerf it into the ground

before Puncture was kind of just something people cooked up

[winged reef]

I mean it has a badge

And functioning build

It’s not made up

[solar python]

not really

[winged reef]

This is the first time I’ve seen it pretty sure so far

[solar python]

a build literally not having a corresponding mystic badge means they didn't see it as a main build

[winged reef]

My lucky day

[gilded thistle]

[winged reef]

Meteor Strike 😔

[gilded thistle]

[winged reef]

If this was Nanaya it'd have been a puncture

[gilded thistle]

Definitely

I was hoping you get one

it's probably the only high cost book atm

[winged reef]

I'd be happy with DT or Lunar Tab, they probably still sell decently high

[astral tendon]

i got bound breeze from lv58

is not gonna be puncture

[honest haven]

I wonder if dt sells at all these days, just constantly lowering every day

one guy trying hard to sell it

[winged reef]

Plenty of fire and hybrid players but definitely not selling at 17k

But 10k~ surely

[fallow wind]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-26473135

how i feel like playing fire build

[dire summit]

Heavenly Slasher angle

[loud hinge]

NA server? i saw 9 books were listed last night at 15k

seems like one guy is switching to puncture or another game

[loud hinge]

i got take flight

[astral tendon]

i got 2 bound breeze and 1 bound scarlet breeze

the game is litearlly shi tting me

[loud hinge]

galeflash x2, flock, take flight, stone slash, dragon crash, breeze <= these are all free books i've got

i have only 2 bound purp DT from bp

[astral tendon]

i missed the 3 bound chestg

is probably gonna be 3 breezes anyway

[loud hinge]

i wonder if ncsoft going to make those trash being salvagable one day

[somber kiln]

bro NA got some special people fr

[somber kiln]

finally hit cr

only thing missing from this is the mantra slots

[vernal dust]

fatal error on unreal engine games usually means Intel 12th gen or higher is getting deadge since the bug on release

[vernal dust]

Onzor used to have the same issue and it was his cpu intel 13th gen , he sent back RMA and got new one and error gone

i found it on a gamersnexus video explaining the intel scandal with cpu degradation on newer generations

if you are on ryzen then its something else causing the problem

[rain horizon]

am i missing something or why doesnt additional dmg from block value does not get applied on dragontongue

not that the extra 1,5k dmg per tongue matter on a alt

[winged reef]

What’s your block value, base and equipment?

Draw stance has 0 base block

[rain horizon]

okay ty

u r right

had exactly 0 block during draw stance

[silver moth]

Block Rajin attack with draw stance cost 30% my health bar

[winged reef]

Bsh 8 set is an easy way to get block and free damage

[silver moth]

Well, from 30% to 20%

Good enough

[void ermine]

whos selling this ?

[honest haven]

this is some bs, all I get are poharan psyches

[astral tendon]

Another reason why dt is 💩

[rain horizon]

when we did lab ur dps skyrocketed during these rare grabs

[astral tendon]

Bruh I praise 77k with Kacper

I just need him to be good

On tempest lord

All i need is a top 3 sum in mw to carry me as dt player, not too hard

[rain horizon]

atleast u can be carried

look at my class

handicap

[winged reef]

What’s your class

[rain horizon]

wl

[winged reef]

Is the ap boost kinda useful at least

[rain horizon]

solo

[winged reef]

You carry others

I thought it was party ap boost

[rain horizon]

no

[winged reef]

Useless like soulburn then

[rain horizon]

[winged reef]

Time to disable Warlock class from my party searches

[rain horizon]

u can have 1 wl in your group

need 5 other to make up for it

[gilded thistle]

[sage tulip]

I have brain damage

:3

[wooden rain]

Yeah that's nice

[winged reef]

We all play this game so we might all suffer from this

[sage tulip]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1336763418568298546/1384618064875884626/Fc0VYCB.png?ex=687756cf&is=6876054f&hm=bcd752cd886c2d5f1ea93502a664a4a2fb682201e0f6e0cab26ff752fb0f32f1&

[winged reef]

[gray void]

Yeeting the system ppl invested hard they will get sued to heaven / actively kill the remaining ppl especially whales :) those who fund the servers at this point

[sage tulip]

Well they did double down on skill book stacking with new GM bonuses, so no need to be afraid

[fickle loom]

how much does puncture go for nowadays

[sage tulip]

20-24 or so

[last void]

Sellem to me for 2k each I'll buy 10

Trash book

Salvage

It's basically blade strike cost now 🤪

[sage tulip]

@fickle loom Quitting for good?

[fickle loom]

maybe, but mostly just curious

if I am gonna sell off my stuff I don’t wanna do it when it’s cheap ya know

[astral tendon]

20 maybe, 24 no

[fickle loom]

seems there’s a puncture drought from what I see people saying

[astral tendon]

Actually 20 will sell

[sage tulip]

Don't think it's getting anymore higher

[astral tendon]

Cos I’ll buy it

[sage tulip]

Most people rerolled

[astral tendon]

24 you need to try your luck, most ppl re roll with 1

[sage tulip]

Was on market for 24 500 or so yesterday, but probably didn't sell

[astral tendon]

contact me if you try to sell, I still need 6 punctures

At least the burst is insane

Idk how long is the cd

Zero was doing crazy dps in the first 10 seconds, and it fall down to a cliff afterwards

Compare to the burst

Then is a bit 💩

Doesn’t sync with soul core

[wooden rain]

Depends on what you're comparing to, this wl is more similar to old live not new live

And then there's the whole skill books and stats thing

[normal orchid]

hey guys, new dt user here after using lunar and i have skill issue. Should i stack sun stroke? or just keep stack dt? (using dt soul badge)

[solar python]

stack dt and use sunstroke soul badge is what all DT playstyles do afaik

pure fire and hybrid

[normal orchid]

1 last question, is purple meteor strike important for DT build? i hear that purple give "heat" buff, is that okay if im not using that book?

[solar python]

I am not a DT player but purple meteor strike is probably better than a blue dt book

[normal orchid]

okey dokey, thanks for information. Gonna fix my soul badge right now

[grizzled gale]

won both bids and got a blue book drop, yup i think my luck is gone for the day

[last void]

For the day...

🤦‍♂️

That's like a decade and a half of bad luck for me

[grizzled gale]

[solar python]

requires less luck than even seeing the mask from bsh drop

[grizzled gale]

true

I've seen the outfit once but thats about it

[astral tendon]

Is better than a purple book for pure fire if you use it on cd

But then given that you can’t track the cd in draw stance, most of the time you won’t use it on cd

[placid jolt]

[winged reef]

Does the twins hair drop from the twins themselves or Hae Mujin

[normal orchid]

so i need some new rotation for cd issue?

[gilded thistle]

Twins

[sage tulip]

i thought 120/120 were supposed to be max counts? or was that just its good enough

[solar python]

I'd assume this is the guy with a detect boost macro

[gilded thistle]

detect deeznuts

git gud

[solar python]

he is missing 5 counts of puncture to have perfect 480, which results in 5 x 150 ms saved = 750 ms at like 300 per lb tab rotation that gives him 2.5 more counts which is about what he has

also means he probably has less than 10 ms ping

or he is cheating

@dire swift share macro?

[winged reef]

Playing with bots or macro users is basically the same

[gilded thistle]

[gilded thistle]

Just a gamer thats all

[astral tendon]

See

I don’t marco

[gilded thistle]

For now

Back to puncture soon

[dire swift]

https://tenor.com/view/oops-gif-10031223162004539162

[astral tendon]

Let’s ban all the macro users

[winged reef]

Put Neo out of its misery

[gilded thistle]

Let us cash out first mmkay

[astral tendon]

Then wb we have probably 3 bm left

[solar python]

you mean 3 players

[astral tendon]

What other build don’t need macro

Maybe sum?

Sunflower

Desto?

That’s probably about it

[solar python]

I bet summoners and destros still use macro

[astral tendon]

See

[solar python]

they just have a proc where they hold down their big dps button

[astral tendon]

Pure fire the only legal build of the game

[placid jolt]

mfer shut up

[astral tendon]

And they decide to not buff it through the roof

[solar python]

banning macro players would mean they would have to shut down the game

[astral tendon]

See another macro abuser just showed up

You should feel ashamed

[solar python]

they literally design the dps checks with macro in mind, you can't convince me otherwise

[silver moth]

i mean, puncture is literally "macro build"

[winged reef]

I could do tree 4m with my current gear without macro

[silver moth]

how can u play punc without macro

[winged reef]

And I play the deficient build so

[astral tendon]

I can do 4 man lab without macro

And I play the deficient build so

[winged reef]

Yours is less

[silver moth]

just adding ingame macro, nobody get hurt

[sage tulip]

so whos sharing pixel detect macro for puncture

[silver moth]

i have one, but it work like shjtty

so nah, fk it, stay pure fire build

[sage tulip]

wym stay fire

im playing puncture

[astral tendon]

Pretty sure with enough crit pixel detection macro will be slower

[sage tulip]

give me, ill test it out

[silver moth]

not sure about that, china macro is pretty good

[sage tulip]

wtf is china macro now

[gilded thistle]

the good stuff

[silver moth]

eh... some macro write by china guys

[sage tulip]

interesting stuff

[astral tendon]

I actually have one but never bother to setup

Cos I don’t puncture

Me fire

[gilded thistle]

[wooden rain]

Kfm both builds

Sin is fine as well just gets tiring

Bd probably

[solar python]

idk all those builds gain dps from macro I am sure

especially if we take ahk into account

[wooden rain]

Gain != Need

[solar python]

then no build needs a macro

[wooden rain]

I would say it's fine if you can have like 90% potential

[solar python]

needs in this case refers to significant dps gain significant is anything over 10% imo and all those builds can probably squeeze 20% with macros

[astral tendon]

wind not sure

[wooden rain]

Absolutely not 20%

On all i mentioned

[astral tendon]

Lightning bd macro or not dps difference is huge

[winged reef]

Whos got the lightning macro

[wooden rain]

I don't even know how neo bd plays but i think it used to be lmb f anicancel

[astral tendon]

It cost like 4 pounds a month or something

[wooden rain]

If it's still that i don't see what's hard about it manually

[gilded thistle]

Wait people buy macro?

[silver moth]

yes

people i know

[gilded thistle]

Didn't know that

[silver moth]

bc some class become broken with that pay macro

[gilded thistle]

Could have saved lots of hours tuning mine

[wooden rain]

If there's ever a purge of the human race bns discord is a good place to start

[winged reef]

To play neo you must pay for exitlag, dps meter and the macro

F2p experience

[astral tendon]

I mean dps meter is free at least

[gilded thistle]

bbbut cute background

[placid jolt]

Exit lag gamers..

[silver moth]

every game is free to pay

[gilded thistle]

Next opening when?

[silver moth]

but u can pay for win

[winged reef]

I think it’s cheaper to be a drug addict

[silver moth]

[astral tendon]

Whales lol

I can’t afford that cute background

[gilded thistle]

Sure

[astral tendon]

To a point I don’t even open azura nowadays

Unless I need a timer

[gilded thistle]

Need to support the person that made a details/warcraftlogs(ish) for the game

[silver moth]

me too, not bother open it

[winged reef]

Just use the ingame meter

Free

[gilded thistle]

It's ugly

[astral tendon]

Well yeah, but bs thing about that is timer does not show up

[silver moth]

u mean wb dps meter

[winged reef]

Timer shows up if you hover

I’m sure Azure’s meter is great but it lags my game

[astral tendon]

I can’t hover while I’m tanking fujin

[winged reef]

Why do you need the timer anyway

[gilded thistle]

Nah if you do that its jover

[astral tendon]

The only time I need timer

[winged reef]

Use the enrage timer on boss

[astral tendon]

They don’t enrage

[winged reef]

There’s an option to have it on all the time

Ah

[astral tendon]

And all mechs are time based

[gilded thistle]

No timer on that part of the fight

[astral tendon]

The only time you need a timer

[winged reef]

I haven’t gotten to that dungeon

Cockblocked by ncsoft

[silver moth]

so, no time needed?

[gilded thistle]

Time to code a dbm for neo

[winged reef]

How good is the first miniboss of lab as a dps reference

The augerite

[astral tendon]

Is useless

[placid jolt]

useless

[astral tendon]

Minou is good

[placid jolt]

minor is a good ref

[winged reef]

Can’t get there solo to test

But maybe my clan wants to try

Nothing to lose anyway

[astral tendon]

you can, actually

Oh wait, 2nd mini boss maybe not

I mean bm should be fine

You can dodge everything and have range protect

[winged reef]

I can kill the augerite easily but the 2nd one does a lot of dmg

But I could probably do it if I try hard enough

[placid jolt]

you need to block blue robot asap ..

[astral tendon]

If your team can clear minou, you have just about enough damage to clear the whole thing

[winged reef]

Is it just leading the boss into the wall like og

[astral tendon]

Yes

Glowing wall tho

[winged reef]

There also used to be lasers flying across the room you had to jump iirc

[astral tendon]

Yeah but that doesn’t do much damage only cc you

[solar python]

yep uncapped

[valid cradle]

Dont like the look of that

[gilded thistle]

At least we'll have something to do after depleting our blessing

[solar python]

buy hourglasses?

also not sure how she is levelling so fast unless she does msp offstream

I don't think I've seen her do msp on stream at all

but she got like level 72 5 days after silverfrost launch

and now shes gotten like half a level per day

[placid jolt]

[gilded thistle]

If you have enough hourglasses why not?

Also force master

[placid jolt]

man that girl ice rain doing 130k per hit

6x more than mine

1 shotting everying in msp ..

[gilded thistle]

Don't worry

[solar python]

she is getting giga damage from level difference now

[gilded thistle]

you're on your way to her gm

[placid jolt]

not even half

[gilded thistle]

By the time we get that patch

you will be trust

[placid jolt]

I only has 108 when silver frost reach :skullz

[gray void]

Bns scaling is weird, you will see how much 100 ap does extra on current gear

Heh

Not linear dps gain

[gilded thistle]

And her stats must be too high with the SS

Then there's level difference

[gray void]

Double the cdmg can be 3x the dps or more
And level diff
Yep

[solar python]

AP is like Ilvl in wow

40-50 ilvl more when baseline is like 600 gives you like 2-3x damage

[placid jolt]

I wonder..

maybe its FM issue

1 extra purple book (6gm) only give me like 3.7% dmg increase ..

[gilded thistle]

No good, go yellow

[gray void]

Yellow 10% each

Hah

[gray void]

Meanwhile full purple without leg book it is only 2.6-2.9%

[placid jolt]

[gray void]

The more gear the higher it scales

The higher base gear the bigger the modifiers

[placid jolt]

yeah book more like a multiplier

[gray void]

1.2 x 1.2 or 1.2 x 1.02
Change 2nd number and suddenly goes up by a lot

Those numbers being cdmg, ap, etc

[silver moth]

so ap and book still is the best?

[solar python]

good stats is more important than high level gear

you could have full bis gear but if half your stats are hp instead of crit dam you are not gonna do any damage either

[placid jolt]

really need master Hong b4 end of this month

[solar python]

the infinite levelling basically means they gave up on bgs

[winged reef]

I can’t wait to solo lab with my lvl 130 BM

[solar python]

!remindme 2 years

[astral tendon]

They can already duo it in kr

[gilded thistle]

Those guys have crazy gear/books though no?

[placid jolt]

[winged reef]

Let September come quick so I can quit Neo

[gilded thistle]

We duo soon Kame

[solar python]

imagine they merge all 3 eu servers and just spawn 2 world bosses every evening with double hp

[thin charm]

anyone knows if purp searing can apply Black dragon on its own or just updates it to 3s?

[valid cradle]

Some classes get damage from hp 😎

[astral tendon]

It updates it to 3 sec if it is lower than 3

Which is sort of ok

There was a time it just update it to 3 no matter how long your bd buff is left

[thin charm]

Oh okay thanks!

I'm playing pierce was wondering if its worth to pull up BDr uptime

[astral tendon]

Just get leg stone slash

[placid jolt]

? leg book ready when?

[gilded thistle]

Day one

We stop at one puncture and one stone slash

[placid jolt]

wtb timestream sword 25k

[placid jolt]

[astral tendon]

I pay 35

Not gonna go higher than that tho

[winged reef]

I pay 35 too

35 divine gems

[loud hinge]

whoever in NA is quitting. 13 DT books are selling at 12k

[solar python]

DT slowly becoming the budget build

[somber kiln]

Pure or hybrid

[placid jolt]

he meant his ass is on fire

[astral tendon]

Me pure fire

[spiral sky]

[somber kiln]

So you use meteor strike right?

How does your rotation go

Normal core> V > 4 > tab > rmb spam

Then you do E > X > tab when bd effect is done?

[astral tendon]

Core 2 x tab, then 4, then x off cd either e x tab or e x q

Or e x ss 2 depends on what available

[sage tulip]

felt cute might delete later

[somber kiln]

Oh?

[solar python]

that's rough buddy

[somber kiln]

You open with x instead of 4? Which do you use

Well obviously searing nvm

But doesnt the -15% help with burst too?

And 4 puts you in draw stance for the extra cd

On tab

Oh nvm

You activated both

[astral tendon]

Open with x because devour core takes like 5 sec to drop

[somber kiln]

Could be good for me too bc I have hae core

But when you say “then 4” thats to refresh the heat buff into tab?

[astral tendon]

After x heat expire

I do tab then 4 mostly

Cos tab lock you for too long and heat is flat 0.5

[somber kiln]

Ok

I’ll buy one and see how it works

How is heavenly slasher build in silverfrost if anyone knows?

[spiral sky]

Better than 🔥

[somber kiln]

What about lightning?

[solar python]

worse than fire still

I think

[astral tendon]

still 💩

[somber kiln]

Damn

I wanna change from DT ngl but i keep hearing its not that great on 75ms

So im checking options

[last void]

DT is fine on 75 ms

[somber kiln]

Hs seems tun though

[last void]

Like you might lose out on 1 DT big whoop

[somber kiln]

Oh i mean

[last void]

Your tab still resets

[somber kiln]

Dt is better for 75ms than puncture?

[last void]

Puncture is probably better , DT is still fine , HS will likely be good enough once the buffs come in , lightning forget about it

[solar python]

would HS be basically same ping reliance as DT?

or does it have compensation

[somber kiln]

Bc i’d for sure switch to puncture if my ping isnt too affected

[last void]

Like regardless of what build you're playing on 75 ms you'll be doing less than your counterparts with lower MS , none of the builds are in a bad enough state to make them unplayable at your ms except lightning which is just in a trash state all together

They're all ping affected

Like spin it any way you want puncture will still deal more than your DT build

[last void]

DT's "ping reliance" comes in when you can't get enough DTs out to reset your tab otherwise it's w/e

Like having more ping you'll always be doing less but the main point of the build is to reset your tab so you don't get shafted

[solar python]

DT apparently does not have ping compensation so its comparetively worse than Puncture with good macro

[astral tendon]

+1/-1 actually means quite a lot

for dt

[last void]

It means a lot yes I agree

It's not going to be the reason why you clear or wipe

As long as your tab resets then you're fine

Like his question was if it was fine on 75 ms , and it is

Is it better on 30 ms ? Sure

Is it unplayable at 75 ? I don't think so 🤔

He definitely needs the mystic badge and possibly purp sunstroke

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[somber kiln]

So, puncture will outdo DT at 75ms still

I see

[last void]

Probably

@astral tendon would know better since he's played both builds

[loud hinge]

Ping should be lower than 55ms to play DT

[last void]

Would you not reset your tab at 75 ms per 6 secs ?

[loud hinge]

Still able to. But dps dramatically drop

[last void]

I'm not arguing with the dps will drop or not , as long as your tab resets -it's fine-

[loud hinge]

Yes, tab is still reset

Unless your ms is 100+

[somber kiln]

Lets continue this though
What about punct

Whats the recommended

[loud hinge]

I never played puncture

[somber kiln]

Ah

[loud hinge]

My clanmates keep telling me to switch

F2p cant afford to switch builds

[somber kiln]

Exactly LOL

I got cyclone from the free boxes and fissure from a random box

Crafting

So if i use this bp

I just need the purple tab

And z

Soaring falcon

But idk

If i somehow get leg DT i might just stick

[solar python]

Somehow

[loud hinge]

At 55ms or below, DT does 14 hits on avg. If ping is at 75+, i bet you can do more than 10 hits

If you’re playing hybrid, don’t even think about performing ES at 75+ ms

[somber kiln]

Ok

Ive made up my mind

Sticking with DT 💀

Only thing stopping me from switching though is getting the purple tab

That shiii expensive

[loud hinge]

What region are you playing?

[somber kiln]

NA

[loud hinge]

Purp tab is cheap

Or was

I bought it at 4k5

Last month

[somber kiln]

NANI

Saw one up for 12k but ig thats just someone being brain dead

[somber kiln]

Im talking about tab connection

[loud hinge]

Nvm

I thought you’re talking about sun stroke

[somber kiln]

Nah

I got sunstroke when it was 25K lol

[loud hinge]

If you paid attention, 13 purp DTs were listed on AH

At 12k

Someone is switching to puncture

Or quit

[somber kiln]

Yeah all the big names I remembered gone by now

Sulli too

Even steven

[spiral sky]

HS has autobias, 200 ping as the same ratio as 0 one

Hs is the most pingfriendly

You can play hybrid on high ping

But is ass

Can do 8/8 on my alt on 130ms

You cant f the rotation with that ratio

Pure fire is worst

Lightning is a dream

[winged reef]

My Electric Saber has been delivered thank you Rowen

[somber kiln]

aint that just like

the very first ever

when you log on

DT is the same for me

[hidden pawn]

Mhm sulli steven even prinz all quitting plus more like my clan leader got lvl 60 and quit

[somber kiln]

what ping is this?

i think thats just the proc to start the maximum boost, no?

hs just looks fun

idrc bout the comparison to puncture

even if its the same dps i do now

i just like the gameplay of it

plus its basic stance

and no macro right?

got stop playing from the moon bro

come down to earth

i get 130 without exitlag though

oh i meant to switch during sf

doesnt it get badges

[winged reef]

HS gets additional damage during BD as well

On legendary stacking

[somber kiln]

anyone got a better translation for this

same with this

[winged reef]

Puncture, Fire, Lightning in that order

For soul badge

[somber kiln]

oh so the sb aint that big

[winged reef]

Fire Puncture Lightning mystic

[somber kiln]

still gotta use old sould badge

[winged reef]

Mystic is the same as we have now

Except Pierce got replaced by Puncture

[somber kiln]

mystic is less for DT

idek what the plan is

[winged reef]

Yes nerf

Because of Hybrid I believe

[somber kiln]

are they trying to buff DT in a way that this nerf is necessary?

[somber kiln]

lame

[winged reef]

But fire should still have 100% uptime

[hearty ether]

is the switch to puncture build inevitable? 😩

[spiral sky]

its because it start without max boos if you only hold it, if you use after skills that give max boost it wont have that delay effect

[fallow wind]

sry i dont speak chinese i dont belive the buffs till i see it with my own eyes

[spiral sky]

just do 2 breeze hits

scarlet is the new breeze

[fallow wind]

https://tenor.com/view/tv-show-gun-to-mouth-i-wanna-die-kill-me-now-gif-19697205

[winged reef]

Ping me when kr drops lightning buff patch notes instead

[spiral sky]

the game will be dead until there

[hearty ether]

what r the chances of us getting this down the line?

[fallow wind]

we just have to wait and keep praying for kr updates

[hearty ether]

[fallow wind]

i dont wanna swap either

play make DT great again

[silver moth]

Kr dev hate DT and lightning

[fallow wind]

he hates his playerbase ig

[loud hinge]

whoever is selling your DT books on NA auction. I'll break my f2p rule and get 10 pcs for a best sale

[somber kiln]

is it just me or is salvaging faster now

[winged reef]

Looks like kr got Sundered Nexus this week

[chrome elbow]

Can someone send me a macro for puncture?)

[silver moth]

haha 48 stack X spam go br br

[lethal dew]

dam when did DT got to only 9k

the downfall of dt

[hearty sentinel]

How much is this?

[loud hinge]

i'm waiting for the price down to below 7k then break my f2p rule

[void ermine]

if anyone knows who selling the +10 mystic badge for 9999 pm me ill buy it for 7500 if it dont sell

[lethal dew]

Why u buying BM stuff

[sage tulip]

What are the 2 instances for sundered nexus in kr? Easy and hard mode or are they just splitting bosses?

[nova lotus]

🤡 soft at its best

[coarse sun]

is there any info available about the insignia cost reductions coming please?

[valid cradle]

50% with white tier and 25% with green tier

[fluid barn]

How are purple book prices for soaring falcon and cyclone (attack) lmb atm on EU?

[astral tendon]

Meaningless since lightning is the only viable build dps wise in China server

Well bm is 💩 damage wise no matter the build there

Lightning is the less 💩 one

[winged reef]

Hope KR hires some chinese devs

[void ermine]

thatll be the day

[silver moth]

tomorrow, CN update raven raid

[solar python]

china getting anything doesn't mean we are getting that

[silver moth]

and zakhan

time go to bili

[winged reef]

Does CN have Nexus?

So far the content is still the same

Nexus drops seems to be the same as Asura so thats decent I guess

[astral tendon]

China has enough player to raid

Meanwhile eu

[solar python]

china has completely different meta, monetization, design philosophy and most importantly they are nearly 1 year ahead in progression

[astral tendon]

if it is lab level dps requirement we don’t have enough ppl to raid

[silver moth]

CN is diffirent

[astral tendon]

There is a CN Neo now tho, opened a month ago

[silver moth]

they got dev who actually play the game

[winged reef]

KR isn’t that far behind them anymore I think

Their version came out in August or so

Yea Chaos Avalanche Den

[solar python]

china version came out like 6 months before kr

and ours 6 months after kr

[sage tulip]

too high

💀

[solar python]

daily tasks nerf?

nice

[astral tendon]

Who cares about gold market when you cant do player trade with them

Let it crash

[winged reef]

https://tenor.com/view/beyblade-let-it-rip-beyblade-classic-gif-27134038

Also purple Saber is such a minimal damage increase lol

It should gain a damage increase after TDS hits imo

[solar python]

yeah but who cares about your opinion

definitely not ncsoft

[fallow wind]

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-22552264

[void ermine]

dragoon

[astral tendon]

Saber is only there to reduce ss cd anyway

[winged reef]

Yea but for lightning it’s the 2nd core ability and number 2 in dps so it should be stronger or make tds stronger

But at least with purple it’s reaching 1m damage now

[grizzled gale]

2 days in a row.. is my rng finally kicking in

[last void]

Didn't you get that yesterday too

[grizzled gale]

yes

Yura please

unlucky

[astral tendon]

Close enough

[last void]

Deserved .

[gilded thistle]

Wdym deserved wtf

Noone deserves that kind of sadness in these fuses

[last void]

He got 4 cards in 2 days !

I haven't gotten 4 cards since I started this game !

[gilded thistle]

[astral tendon]

Skill issue

My best per day was 9 purple cards I believe

[last void]

I haven't even see baylee drop once 😭

[astral tendon]

you just have to roll Kaari wheel a few thousands time a day

[last void]

Right , my bad 🤣

[gilded thistle]

17kari in 8 hours was my best

[last void]

🤦‍♂️

[astral tendon]

how many essence tho

I use to only do 5-6k per day

[last void]

As many as they could roll in 8hrs

[astral tendon]

I mean Kaari is 💩

It fills your bag in 2 hours

[gilded thistle]

Yup and takes a minute to clean up

Worth it though

[winged reef]

i dropped bay lee once in a solo

Best thing I got out of there ever

Poh already better in drops in fewer runs

And it just dropped now again lol

[astral tendon]

Never got anything from bbr even pre nerf

Now is impossible

[wind heron]

EU-anyone have a electric saber virtuous mystic badge and purple thunder drake slash for sale

[hidden pawn]

Its puncture or pierce?

[astral tendon]

Puncture

Hence why is broken in silverforst

[wind heron]

its broken for whale that can get leg one right?

[hidden pawn]

Oh ok and any soul badge and mystic upgrade into it or only specific ones?

[astral tendon]

Is still fine if you have a lot of purple

I guess dolphins are fine

Below that it barely changes anything

Other than more % from the badge

Is broken if you have 48+ puncture and even more broken if you have at least 1 leg puncture and 3 leg stone slash

[wind heron]

WTB ****

EU ^

[winged reef]

How much does cyclone block lmb sell for

[hidden pawn]

@winged reef does any soul badge and mystic badge upgrade into the silverfrost badges?

[winged reef]

I'm not sure, haven't seen the upgrade path. I would assume only the ones that are included in the new badge but it's only speculation

[solar python]

you can upgrade to silverfrost badges from +10 virtous soul and mystic badges

45 gold and 30 fragments

[hidden pawn]

Ok so get +10

[winged reef]

All of them? Would be weird to go from 1200% sunstroke dmg to 45% DT

[solar python]

I think so

every class gets one of each badge

[hidden pawn]

Got puncture soul badge and dt mystic so ill just make those +10

They should upgrade regardless

[astral tendon]

From -1 sec to -0.7 sec after an upgrade

Spending money to get nerfed

The dev who cooked this thing up should be blacklisted by the whole industry

[fickle loom]

[EU BM]

WTS 10x 4x Puncture
WTS True Hexwood Sword (Double Crit + Double Crit Psyche)
WTS +10 Virtuous Soul Badge (Puncture)
WTS +7 Virtuous Mystic Badge (Pierce, not that it matters)
WTS any accessory or whatever else on "lll"

DM Offers

[winged reef]

@astral tendon there’s your chance

[astral tendon]

Oops

Let me check how many punctures I need bruh

Omw home

[fickle loom]

lock in

[winged reef]

https://tenor.com/view/fast-buy-buying-credit-card-card-gif-17790008651980523004

[gilded thistle]

[placid jolt]

[wind heron]

man i cant find any thunder slash on market for few days now

holy moly

i just need 1 purple for now

[winged reef]

I bought all of them

[wind heron]

do you have happen to be derpzilla?

as ign

[winged reef]

Nah

Last one I bought was like last week, done with purple stacking

[wind heron]

ok

that person also bought them

[winged reef]

Ah I see another rare lightning user

[wind heron]

i dont have a single one yet

[hearty ether]

why do both the purple 3s in draw stance suck so much

[winged reef]

Moonwater tho so idk them

[wind heron]

wdym

[hearty ether]

purp scale ripper & black dragon rancor

[wind heron]

yea dont bother

[hearty ether]

i got both but theyre bound 😩

[wind heron]

sadly

i got bound stuff aswell

useless

i have dragon rise purple

pvp stuff

if you realy wonna use a 3s

use the immune one

dmg resist one

[winged reef]

HOLD ME I'm scared

[hearty ether]

good luck

[grizzled gale]

surely you 1 tap that 5%

[hearty ether]

yeah doing that

[wind heron]

gl

[solar python]

Heroic Skill Book Breeze

[last void]

If it's a legendary stone slash I'm eating a shoe

[lethal prairie]

keep for big legy puncture gamble

let it cook

[grizzled gale]

too optimistic to think he'd be playing by then

[astral tendon]

1/44 is here

So don’t be optimistic

Bull💩 odds

[astral tendon]

Where is him

[last void]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[astral tendon]

I’m waiting to buy legendary honed slash

Or legendary lightning draw

[winged reef]

I’m letting it cook in my inventory until later

After all my dailies, if it fails I can uninstall and go to sleep

[odd mantle]

lightning draw for pvp though

wonder if you could stack them for a 1 shot build lol

[astral tendon]

-50% in pvp

Fatal blade bd maybe

Not any of the shi tty bm skill

[last void]

You can

[last void]

It gets buffed with stone slash

Like it has a GM stacking

[astral tendon]

Well silverforst maybe

Not now

[last void]

Fair

"
18
When hitting an enemy who is stunned, groggy, possessed, or sucked, deals 1500% additional damage of attack power
30
When hitting an enemy, restore 6 Stamina for 3 seconds
48
When hitting an enemy, reset the cooldown"

I don't think it's hitting an enemy reset cd , prolly kill an enemy

[astral tendon]

1500% is useless pretty much

[solar python]

even at 1.5k AP thats 22.5k damage

thats not that much

[astral tendon]

Well it can crit but PvP damage is halved

[solar python]

and I've seen that FM streamer run around with almost 400k hp

[last void]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[astral tendon]

PvP is a joke here anyway

[last void]

That's google translate

Yeee beluga is also probably my least liked BG map as well

I don't know why they didn't give us pinball

Or whirlind valley

[astral tendon]

I mean first ppl takes 5 years to kill, kfm and sum probably take 15

[solar python]

idk wtf KR are thinking with silverfrost

the scaling and stuff

its really weird

[astral tendon]

And bg is not about fighting anyway

[fickle loom]

believing they think at all was your first mistake

[last void]

^

[solar python]

I mean they must be thinking that this somehow makes them more money

that is like the one goal they have we know is true

as stupid as their way of getting there is

but it makes no sense like any new player gets out of MSQ at level 50 even in silverfrost

how are they even remotely supposed to get gear

or level up

like even sh*t mobile games give you stuff for free at the start but this game just tells you to pay or you will never be able to enjoy the longer it goes on

they are legit taking all the bad parts of mobile games and none of the good parts

they don't even implement the monetization strategy properly

[hearty ether]

scaling in what way

[solar python]

I think the level 75 fm streamer that seems to be like almost full bis can solo asura already

[winged reef]

Solo legendary book farm? Let’s go

[hearty ether]

ohhh

[solar python]

I feel like they uncapped levelling because they want to continue releasing higher and higher level dungeons

but that is just gonna alienate any new customers more and more and even alienate whales more and more

[odd mantle]

how much exp does silverfrost story get you? 45-50?

[winged reef]

What level is Nexus? I didnt check

If they increase it with every dungeon it will be impossible to catch up for newer players

And that makes older content also completely obsolete

[astral tendon]

Older content will be obsolete

Not that many ppl doing ToE now

[winged reef]

Always happens yes but much quicker with this system

[solar python]

not just much quicker

basically immediately

blue dungeons in silverfrost have crazy dps requirements

they are like level 54? dungeons and have similar dps requirement to like bsh or more probably even

and everyone who is level 60 is probably just going to grind asura

[dire swift]

WTS EU

[astral tendon]

ok

now i can do some dummy test

anyone interseted in direct comparison between leg dt and puncture

to prove how crap dt is

theoritically i still need purple z but i can get that next week from the selector

[sage tulip]

[solar python]

what I am curious about is your dps on the focus recovery dummy with puncture

gotta be close to 100k surely

[hidden pawn]

Ye for him probably

[winged reef]

I think he posted a 100k once already before

[hidden pawn]

Well tbf if he stacked puncture he should be doing 120k

[astral tendon]

i did 100k a month ago lol

when i was only 1.1k ap

no soul core

[odd mantle]

did you buy 7 punctures from ill 💀

[sage tulip]

show counts too

[honest haven]

green scale ripper clears idc what anyone says

also make soloing dungeons pretty chill

[astral tendon]

i bought 6

[odd mantle]

bundle discount

[hidden pawn]

Go focus dummy and do 1 min

[odd mantle]

they are dawg

[astral tendon]

dt is pretty stable

guess no point to do a 3rd one?

[sage tulip]

puncture feels way more rng cause crits

[hidden pawn]

Nah we call it 75-80k

[hidden pawn]

Is is but on dummy he should be at 80%+

[astral tendon]

gonna cost me 80+ gold to just swap lol

[hidden pawn]

Xd

[honest haven]

rip bastion of DT

I will pick up the mantle, one divine gem at a time

[hidden pawn]

Do focus dummy haha

[hidden pawn]

Wats ur crit damage

[astral tendon]

4091

[hidden pawn]

Ye u should be doing like 120k imo on focus dummy

[honest haven]

where r the numbrs

[astral tendon]

im redoing macro

havent using them for a while lol

[dire summit]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-its-happening-ok-stay-calm-the-office-gif-6091046

[winged reef]

Shows us your numbers without macro

[wind heron]

yea i use that too

^ ^

[astral tendon]

something like this

ratio is crap

[honest timber]

damn rush carrying the dps

[hearty ether]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhSFu5Q6qpo

seeing this is pretty crazy, dungeon came out literally yday/today 😭

[honest timber]

lvl 58 purple

[winged reef]

Puncture alone is like my whole dps

[honest haven]

so without puncture macro you already do 20k+ dps? O.o

[honest timber]

I was gonna pick that from bp lol

[astral tendon]

i mean thats on focus dummy

[honest haven]

ooh

[sage tulip]

those are counts without macro?

huh

[solar python]

thats probably with his razor macro not with ahk

[sage tulip]

ah, would make more sense

[solar python]

but puncture hitting harder than a fully stacked dt is kinda insane

and this is without legendary puncture

[sage tulip]

xd

[astral tendon]

on normal dummy with my razor macro

puncture hitting 81-82k

but nowadays technology advanced a lot lol

[sage tulip]

[winged reef]

No macro now

[wind heron]

WTB HELP

[sage tulip]

whats the point of that

[winged reef]

Fair comparison

[sage tulip]

to whom? everyone on puncture is macroing

[solar python]

the fair comparison is playing with macro

[winged reef]

Yea but still fair regardless in terms of 1 to 1 comparison

[sage tulip]

yeah but dt you hold down button

its not really

you feel me

[winged reef]

Can’t feel you through the screen sorry

[solar python]

level 66 boss loot in sundered nexus

[winged reef]

[sage tulip]

[sage tulip]

going backwards with new zone, feels like wow

[gilded thistle]

[sage tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-black-black-cat-zoomies-cat-zoomies-gif-14689681662136345500

[winged reef]

[sage tulip]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920709476724649984/1366747511905058826/caption-23.gif

[solar python]

peach blossom is cards right?

ghost in the shell not even on the loot table

did sundered nexus get split into 2 dungeons?

or is it just 1 dungeon that released?

[sage tulip]

yes

lower and upper level

[solar python]

okay this is not terrible

bis outfit dropping from be ido

[winged reef]

Nexus without mechs? Count me in bro

Nexus was kinda funny

[solar python]

I seriously thought that ghost in the shell is gonna get the bsh twins outfit treatment

[winged reef]

Stack the missiles and the room goes boom

[astral tendon]

i mean

what the actual fck is this

🤦‍♂️ like what the actual fck is this

[solar python]

this with ahk?

[winged reef]

Looks weak

I’m glad its getting a buff in silverfrost

[astral tendon]

with bad luck 70% crit on puncture

[gilded thistle]

Thats a lot of damage

[astral tendon]

imagine 80% lol

[solar python]

https://tenor.com/view/123play-game321-gif-20095308

and with silverfrost update you just get another 10% flat crit rate

[winged reef]

https://tenor.com/view/damage-thats-a-lot-of-damage-jon-tron-gif-13054497

[gilded thistle]

You hit too hard though

[solar python]

I kinda expected quite a bit higher crit% ngl

sub 80% seems low for the gear you have

especially with almost 6k crit rate

[hidden pawn]

@astral tendon wats ur ping

[astral tendon]

19 now

[hidden pawn]

Use my macro

U will get 121

[astral tendon]

ill try

where is the marco

[hidden pawn]

Umm sec

[winged reef]

Me? Only funny tickles

[gilded thistle]

You gonna equipt that legendary stone slash now or what?

[hidden pawn]

@astral tendon

Just change shortcut key haha

[astral tendon]

no pixel reading thing in here?

[hidden pawn]

No its skyze ahk just with my ms

He helped me configure it for low ping

Also whats pixel reading haha

[solar python]

you can make ahk watch your screen and react to it

[winged reef]

After my dailies then tomorrow coming for your top 1 on WB

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[solar python]

so classes that are mainly based on procs use that pixelsearch for those procs

someone said they have a macro for detecting boost on puncture but noone posted it yet

[gilded thistle]

It's the rest you have to worry about

If i see you 2nd i afk 😄

[winged reef]

I think I was 2nd once for a second last time I did WB like 1 month ago during burst

[hidden pawn]

Oh that would be op

@astral tendon u try it?

[astral tendon]

not really better than the chinese tech

[gilded thistle]

Slide tech

[hybrid willow]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-early-birthday-now-gimmee-gif-15731324811646516558

[hidden pawn]

U have better one?

[astral tendon]

great on focus dummy

[hidden pawn]

Lmao 37 seconds XD making us do math