Blade Master

[winged reef]

It's the same as evolving anyway

[solar python]

they looked at their stats and saw people got too much power so they axed the stats in to more pieces

[winged reef]

Both have a chance to fail

[solar python]

I'd rather have a lot of steps to +10 that are like 50% fail than 3 that are 20% fail

definitely prefer that +10 over the awakened and true version

[hearty sentinel]

If the overall cost is the same as going to true, then that's good, if it's more expensive, then no

[solar python]

all depends on how they implement it

[winged reef]

They start off at 80% then progressively go down

[hearty sentinel]

Ok, that's better

[solar python]

its probably same as the badges

[winged reef]

The stats are like 8-10ap each upgrade

Someone posted a chart

[solar python]

this is from my calculating of the cost of upgrading my soul badge to virtuous

probably follows similar rng

although purple +10 to legendary is probably not guaranteed

I'd be surprised

[solar python]

damn better even

[winged reef]

The bottom ones are the legendaries

[solar python]

and to legendary guaranteed is crazy

[winged reef]

Yea but idk the cost

[solar python]

that looks like a ton of gold though

3rd from the left should be gold cost

although not that terrible, at least the worst rng is 45% till legendary

thats really nice

[winged reef]

So 72g and 50 ascent stones to get Legendary

No matter how crazy the cost might sound tho, as long as it's guaranteed I much prefer it

[hearty sentinel]

Yeah

[solar python]

honestly

I might just scrap my idea of ascending my purple gear

and just save up for silverfrost

I think I should be able to do asura with that gear

[winged reef]

Idk how expensive upgrading base Silverfrost gear is

[solar python]

I think you can get blue stuff and upgrade it to purple when its blue +5

hongmoon essence from asura is 50% drop as well

so rerolling stats should not be that insane either

We're practically in silverfrost waiting room now, considering that is when the game seems to actually become somewhat playable in terms of dungeon rewards

Asura drops tons of loot

compared to lab even

like 2-3x from what I could tell

[winged reef]

Yea but will the game survive till then

Tbh they should rush it and release it next month

[solar python]

people are gonna come back for silverfrost like they come back for every patch

[winged reef]

Shadowmoor only whales will clear

[solar python]

they are not gonna do that

I think I'll try to get a true hexwood weapon and just call it a day with upgrades

cuz weapon is always most expensive

I just hope that next month we get 1 or 2 events that actually try and prepare us for silverfrost

a little bit

[winged reef]

I'm saving up gold for the cards and insignias cost reduction

Should be close to 1100 ap with lvl 60 + insignias

[solar python]

I'll be close to 1k ap with 60 and true hexwood

[winged reef]

I might be lab readyish by then but I'm not sure about that

[solar python]

I am pretty sure nobody is farming lab

just achievement and daily

then go do tree

tree seems way easier and way faster

with barely less rewards

its like farming bsh1 instead of 2

[winged reef]

yea but that 0.02% chance for legendary book

[solar python]

might as well go into a casino with 50€ and you have better chance at getting enough money to just buy a legendary book

[winged reef]

I mean I dropped windshock ss from Blood Mane

and that's 0.04% chance

[solar python]

its 50/50

[winged reef]

[hearty sentinel]

You're assuming we're gonna get the same rates as KR

[rain nimbus]

Ppl still playing

Sad

[hearty sentinel]

Seems like lv57 will always give attack insignia

[silk beacon]

than mine was bugged i got heal regen

[spiral sky]

[solar python]

We have gotten the same rates so far

Except for the bugged pity from last patch

[solar python]

Surely

Gonna hit 57 on sunday probably

I'll get a red ap cdmg one

Calling it

[valid cradle]

Got a red accuracy one

[spiral sky]

Same

[solar python]

snagged this bad boy for 1.2k without mantra or psyche, 3 psyches, 1 mantra try and like 400 powder later

stats not that high but bracelets are really fcking rare compared to everything else

almost at 4k 3k

[gilded thistle]

[solar python]

its funny losing 2 ap from going to a purple accessory over a mid tier legendary one but my puncture hits like 600 damage harder

[gilded thistle]

I failed my neck ascension again today

[solar python]

[winged reef]

I need a better necklace

Hoping for a good drop from exile

Will be painful when I have to remove all my purples from neck and belt

[gilded thistle]

It hurts

[solar python]

My neck is 2 mantra but its got good stats

same with my earring

[winged reef]

Mine has 0

[solar python]

Mantra is giga

its like free damage, because almost nobody puts value in those sockets

[winged reef]

At this point yea but earlier on I just wanted double crit and ap

[solar python]

most people don't even really value psyches

[winged reef]

If you get crit and acc on top accessories that is huge

Double crit on bottom

Psyches I mean

[solar python]

all my gear is now double crit except for gloves which are critd and accuracy
5 pieces are 3 mantra and 2 are 2 mantra
I think the easiest stats now are in my soul badge but I don't really want to lose the %exp

got another 5% from new bracelet being double 10

hmmm

my accuracy is only 1.3k maybe I should take this

[winged reef]

My bracelet is hp crit dmg, not enough essences to reroll

Only my belt has accuracy so I don’t miss on tree

Oh and my ring still has piercing cause no materials to reroll

Missing on so much dmg

[loud hinge]

I’m at lv57 1.7xx acc but still miss on tree

[winged reef]

58 1.5k and I don’t think I miss at least I don’t remember

[honest haven]

7 purples this week, 1 "usable", 💀

[hearty sentinel]

How much gold and mats to get that?

[valid cradle]

iirc its like 10% to hit either the 5 or 10% combat exp roll

[hearty sentinel]

Yeah but i wanna know how much gold do i need to get double 10 on all accs

[valid cradle]

Hitting 10 on everything is going to take a ton

[solar tiger]

ayoo is this good #💬︱neo-chat message

?

[solar python]

trash book

you can use it in beluga

to escape grips

[solar tiger]

at least i can use in pvp xdd

[hearty sentinel]

Guess i'll get 1k of each and 200-300g

[winged reef]

Neo doesn’t even have the version that knocks back enemies

[solar python]

it took like 400 powder and 25 gold to roll all of these

but its lucky

1 10% roll on average is going to take like 600-700 powder

because 10% is something like 3.5% chance

and 5% exp is 6.5%

[winged reef]

I do 2 rerolls a day. I’m at 150% atm

[solar python]

2 rerolls nothing

go deep or go home

my powder chests are gonna start to stockpile now

[hearty sentinel]

i'm fine with 180

[winged reef]

No need to go home

I’ll be 60 next week anyway

[astral tendon]

i hit my belt upgrade today

[hearty sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/you-got-upgrade-pinting-oprah-gif-14735177

[hearty sentinel]

This ductile thingy, should i buy 1 each week? like to save them for later on or something?

[hearty sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-dead-chat-xd-alive-chat-alive-chat-xd-gif-19178329

[slender kelp]

i can talk about anything that isnt neo

[wooden rain]

In the neo discord

[slender kelp]

of course

i am playing project warlock 2 right now

[floral raptor]

WTS NA, on market 1.2k

[static yoke]

u should. always to have extra ductile than not to have any when u need it

[hearty sentinel]

Wise words

[winged reef]

DT lives

[gilded thistle]

One of their kidneys probably doesn't though

But at least he can reroll to the good build if he salvage those dts

[winged reef]

But does it work when you’re not grabbed? The knockback

[last void]

Ye

The one thing neo doesn't have that live did was the 5 target daze HMZ , now it's just single target

I think that's the only thing we don't have 🤔

[silver moth]

Yeah, five point strike daze 5 different target pretty strong in 6v6

If i correct, that skill even daze and then air?

[astral tendon]

It still daze an then air

Just on 1 target

Which is actually 💩 in dungeon, purple has 36 sec cd but you need to manually cancel it

Green one does not knock up but has 45 sec cd

[silver moth]

No, i mean the old skill on live server, not this shjtty version

[last void]

The live version didn't apply several dazes to bosses that's the only diff , you can e-q to cancel the air

[silver moth]

Oh

[fallow wind]

Wake me up when DT gets buffed

Legendary electric saber when ?

[silver moth]

kr say they dont like hybird so maybe never

[astral tendon]

it will probably be there at some point but more geared towards buffing tds than es

they dont like hybird, but lightning should still be a thing

or maybe when fully maxed out lightning is fine hence they dont touch it.

[fallow wind]

they dont like hybird ? i think they dont like pressming more then 1 button for rotation

[astral tendon]

no, it was sepecifcally mentioned in kr dev stream where they want to promote pure build

i.e pure fire, lightning and apperently puncture is also one of them

[fallow wind]

yea puncture so pureee

purest build

[astral tendon]

that is probably the reason to not have sun stroke silverforst badge

[fallow wind]

so sun stroke will not even do dmg anymore in rotation at silverfrost then ?

it literally just for the bdr

effect

[astral tendon]

That is the original intended use for sun stroke anyway

But then the dt badge is still 💩

45%

I guess is fine compare to other class, but Sun stroke badge is broken for sure

The gave the % based on thinking it has 24 sec cd, other long cd skill have similar % on them

[fallow wind]

sun stroke dmg with the badge is nice and good numbers , unlucky

atleast give us legendary sun stroke then

[winged reef]

Yes add legendary saber so I need 3 different legendaries for my build

[violet elm]

i actually love how much we talk about legendaries around here, yet realistically they are unobtainable for all of us except maybe 2-3 people

[solar python]

Well we are kinda assuming that we get something like kr

KR has been getting pumped with legendaries outside of transmuting them

I'd say most legendary skills they have are not transmuted

But if next bp and events are trash I probably quit the game anyway

[violet elm]

hey im with you buddy, but don't blame if not as optimistic

[solar python]

This patch is really wearing down my patience

Ngl

Basically a patch with no events and a much worse bp

[violet elm]

i have to disagree there. the fact that we can farm xp is massive. i don't remember when steam release was, but 55 to 56 was super painful. also we now actually can do tree and some people can actually do lab

[solar python]

There was like 5 different fairly major issues that still dint have a response either

Sure msp is pretty nice

[violet elm]

i agree on all the issues, its just the patch was actually ok even good dare i say

[solar python]

Msp is a crutch for the devs because even the average spender can't even really keep up

With the levelling demands

It just goes back to global having faster schedule and like half the events

Exp event is not even gonna give you 1 day worth of exp

[violet elm]

and you're fast af, i've been playing since launch, you're almost at my levle gear wise

[solar python]

Its been almost 1.5 months now and game is still in decline since I started playing

Gacha game without events

What is even the point of adopting a gacha style design if nit to milk the player base with events

[winged reef]

Lots of qol changes last patch that made the game way more playable like better drops and rerollable gear

[solar python]

Sure but gear is barely rerollable

In 1.5 months I have gotten a total of like 20 essences

That is 4 tries on legendary gear

[winged reef]

I’ve had many I rerolled all my ss

[violet elm]

yeah same. game is playable, especially if you're in a clan you can do it all

[winged reef]

Better spam bsh for it

[solar python]

Its kinda wild tbh

I am 900 ap and I outdps some people with like 1k ap but I would still not get taken to a tree run

I got 14 ascent stones cant wait to fail upgrading my weapon

[winged reef]

1 tap it like I did

Simple

[astral tendon]

or buy time stream for 45k

See I swear if you pity the weapon

Time stream is the cheaper option lol

[winged reef]

Timestream is bait because even if you get it every upgrade will be mad expensive

So you will always need to bid on wb for upgrades

At least hex weapon you can use regular materials even if you fail

[hidden pawn]

Why upgrade wep when regular timestream stronger than true

[winged reef]

With timestream you might get stuck with a weapon you cant upgrade

[astral tendon]

Not sure what is the plan for silverforst time stream thing, now it’s only from upgrade from awaken time stream and the almost none existed drop rate from the new wb

Well mostly for next patch

But then, is not that much of a difference to start from base silverforst weapon compare to upgrade from true hexwood

time stream for a patch will probably be always better than normal weapon even if it is the base version

Just like how they buffed base timestream

[winged reef]

Upgrading hex with Silverfrost will be much cheaper

Unless you’re a whale ofc and get all timestream chests

But let’s say as a f2p or even low spending player, the cost of upgrades is quite high even if you manage to get base timestream imo

[astral tendon]

is mostly fine if you manage to get one for 35-40 now, since you can resale stone after which will cover majority of the cost

And you can use a weapon that is better than true hexwood for a month and half ish

If you get one for 30k you will probably make profit from selling stone

[gilded thistle]

[winged reef]

Idk the cost of Awakened Timestream to True but it will probably be massive

[astral tendon]

80 stones

[gilded thistle]

80 stones i believe

Good stuff

[last void]

That ye

I thought it was 60

[astral tendon]

13/80 now

[winged reef]

Now as many as I thought considering the jump in ap

But if you had to buy each stone for 5000 that’s like 400k

[gilded thistle]

Theoretically they will buff it again, must stay true to its name after all

[winged reef]

They will buff it for sure, max Silverfrost weapon has more AP than True Time

[gilded thistle]

I'm still considering going after stones or not at all

[winged reef]

Has there been a legendary book chest drop yet

[gilded thistle]

One i think?

[winged reef]

I couldn’t find it on the sales history

[gilded thistle]

[winged reef]

[astral tendon]

Not from wb

Also not from lab

[hidden pawn]

Yes a while back

Sold for like 240

[winged reef]

240 gems right

[hidden pawn]

240k

This was like before tree came out

[winged reef]

I hope I can win one with 10-20k

[gilded thistle]

[astral tendon]

That was na

Eu never had a drop

but then there are way more leg books in na i guess

I heard all top 10 fms have leg ice rain

[solar python]

NA just has more whales

EU has always been the most anti p2w region

[wooden rain]

fewer stupid people

[honest haven]

Yeah wl patch brought a lot of qol and monarch is kinda nice to farm, only sucks u need 4 load screens before u get there

[winged reef]

4?

[honest haven]

F8 > portal > join party and return > enter portal again

[winged reef]

Why dont you join party in the lobby

[violet elm]

EU baby, sunny beaches but we get to them in fiats and not teslas

[solar python]

not even that EU just has much better financial literacy

they see this game and think its a scam to spend money

meanwhile NA goes 'credit card goes Brrrr'

[violet elm]

99% positive its a wealth thing, no wonder americans to europe for vacation regularly and not the other wway around

[solar python]

americans come to europe because they destroyed the history of the american continent

[wooden rain]

i could have all the money on the planet and i wouldn't give ncsoft any

in fact i'd use it to make sure ncsoft loses all its money

[hearty sentinel]

When are we getting this punct?

[last void]

Yes buff puncture please

[hybrid willow]

what is spiritual rotation

lol

[solar python]

E resist

[hybrid willow]

y its useless

[solar python]

its decent

I think its like 10 seconds buff?

and E is the Iframe you can use the most

[hybrid willow]

if its 10 second its ok

but if its instant

[solar python]

silverfrost

[main inlet]

it's the second V

[solar python]

we could be getting it with shadowmoor as well

[hybrid willow]

ah its better

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

@solar python

[solar python]

are you sure?

its second V?

[main inlet]

its name is mentioned so probably

[solar python]

If only Blade call reduced the cd of flock of blades

[hearty sentinel]

That would be insane

[winged reef]

[astral tendon]

Whale

[gilded thistle]

[winged reef]

Only if they were 48 stacks of puncture

now where buff

[solar python]

no buff

no lightning

in silverfrost you get debuff for having TDS on your accessories

[winged reef]

rude

[solar python]

this is de way

https://tenor.com/view/knakl-gif-25774220

[honest haven]

I thought you couldnt join a party in msp unless you're inside msp?

[winged reef]

You only need to be in the cross server lobby

With the wheels

[honest haven]

I think the reason I thought so was cuz early in msp thats how ppl said you should do in world chat

[honest haven]

idk I tried it now but nobody accepted my application from lobby, they still say u gotta go in

[winged reef]

I group up with clan mates in the lobby

Maybe you both need to be in the same lobby? I’m not sure never had issues

[honest haven]

yeah I mean for monarch hunting u need to be in the same instance of msp

idk how u can do that from lobby

when u enter the portal it would be rng where u end up

[winged reef]

If you're in a party and everyone's in the lobby at least you all end up in the same instance

[honest haven]

ye but the inviter must be in the correct instance so that when u enter u enter to monarch

if its just farming xp then instance isnt important

[astral tendon]

all need to be in the lobby

but for monarch you need to be in the map, return to lobby and re enter

[floral raptor]

WTS NA, 1k on market

[winged reef]

Old vs new I bought for 999

[gilded thistle]

not bad

[vast imp]

WTS NA offer low price PM!

WTS NA offer low price PM!

[hearty sentinel]

You should try BD ch instead

[honest timber]

can I do tree with ~26k dps on mujin? 🤔

[winged reef]

Last boss probably. First boss maybe slightly under the requirements

It can vary a lot because dps on mujin also varies depending on how much he moves so hard to judge

[honest timber]

I'll have to give it a try then

[prime saddle]

Hi everyone, could someone help me with the puncture build?
My boyfriend was using a hybrid build before, but unfortunately he's saying that the DPS got worse after switching.

[solar python]

not really much to go on

too many questions open

macro? gear? crit rate?`what skill books does he have? what is his ping?

[prime saddle]

Yes, he's using a macro, but he's complaining about that too. His ping is fine though—only 19ms.

He has 4.8k crit rate, and his in-game name is Westria—maybe you can check him out there.

[vivid robin]

Imagine going from hybrid to puncture and getting a DPS loss

[prime saddle]

Well... I don’t really know much about BM, that’s why I’m asking.

[vivid robin]

It sounds to me like his macro is wrong, something is definitely wrong it's just what ig

[solar python]

has to be macro being wrong or he is just missing some substantial skillbooks

best way to fix macro is going to focus recovery dummy and just hitting it for half an hour while tinkering

4.8k crit rate is a lot he shouldn't have any issues with focus with that

[vivid robin]

Did he forget to reallocate skill points 😭

[solar python]

yeah thats probably it

[vivid robin]

She said he was

[solar python]

Puncture is a macro build

[vivid robin]

Something fishy 🥱

[winged reef]

“is a macro build”

[solar python]

if you want to do good dps you macro almost all classes anyway

[winged reef]

A machine will always perform better

[vivid robin]

Someone check Westria's skills on Moonwater

[winged reef]

Nothing new there

[vivid robin]

I'm sick

[solar python]

Pure fire is a non macro build

[silver moth]

"macro build"

[silver moth]

[vivid robin]

LOL

[solar python]

has to be macro or his skill points

[vivid robin]

Well yeah his skills are fine, it's his macro timings I bet

[winged reef]

The best way to see the performance for puncture is the skill count on the dummy meter

[solar python]

with his gear and ping he should have a near perfect rotation

[silver moth]

i know a guy, he can cook a macro detect when RB boost or not

30k dps with 930 ap on hexwood

[solar python]

I am curious if that even is worth it because you delay puncture

[silver moth]

i was try it, yes it make u more delay

but that guy still can hit 2/1s lb-tab

maybe writing issues

[solar python]

its just a ping thing if you can hit 2 lb tab per second or not

I guess if it doesn't detect boost it goes straight to lmb which makes up for the delay

[silver moth]

well, if u have purple lb and tab, and crit 4k5+, normal macro is fine

[solar python]

I think almost all the pixel search macros look for the border since its almost always used for the proc abilities

[silver moth]

with normal macro, my lb-tab hit rate can hit ~2/1s, but if i add the detect pixelsearch, it drop to ~1.5/1s

I'm still thinking about it, but haven't figured it out yet.

yeah, maybe must do something with data from client

similar to sf3 on live server?

[loud hinge]

that happened to Farmerr in Viridian Coast NA

[astral tendon]

All macro look for combat log to detect crit

Because the boarder is always glowing

after 1 crit

Is just depends on which part of the combat log are they pixel reading

Some quicker one read 1 pixel, the : between time stamp

Some read the whole line

Pros and cons for both I guess

[spiral sky]

Get a side window showing big combat font size, use findtext to search "L" From lunar and "C" From Cyclone, with your critfontcolor as filter,set rmb input only if it detects

Or there's a easier and reliable way, but no less fair than the method above

[silver moth]

thank for ideal

[gilded thistle]

[sage tulip]

straight up just start cheating

[grizzled gale]

its a manual quality of life patch

[solar python]

DIY QoL

[winged reef]

Gonna ask my guy to xml buff edit ap modifiers on TDS frfr

[solar python]

just edit xml so honed slash has no cd

on god

[loud hinge]

should i feel blessed or jinxed?

[solar python]

idk you tell me

how do you feel

[loud hinge]

i feel jinxed bro

[solar python]

tough

maybe try harder

[loud hinge]

i'm only able to complete 1 set if i'm lucky enough to get Yura

another 3 sets

nahhh

[grizzled gale]

Yura doesn't exist

the rat is cockblocking her

[solar tiger]

U should feel honored just to be able to look at him

[solar python]

wtf why is @unique valley cockblocking her?

[unique valley]

Make BD great again

[solar python]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1193429164955541554/1390438901759606936/hatta_60_56u756zhse7uGIF.gif

[astral tendon]

sounds like bd is not great enough

[gilded thistle]

Imagine

[astral tendon]

tbf it should be possible to xml puncture combo

[gilded thistle]

Whats the point though?

[astral tendon]

cos crit/non crit skills, apperently have different skill id

[gilded thistle]

Oh so it can skip it if no crit

[astral tendon]

y

[gilded thistle]

meh just tune your macro to be fast enough to skip it itself

duh

amateurs

[astral tendon]

you still spend focus

[gilded thistle]

Get a summoner for that

and no need to cheat

[astral tendon]

well true, if there is summoner around

[winged reef]

Stone Slash coming up frfr

[gilded thistle]

One tap that fosho

[azure moth]

just rerolled my wep from block to acc. now i got acc + cd

is that good ?

[loud hinge]

I play hybrid but i have 2 of it

[solar python]

pretty good

[last void]

It's gooder than before

[edgy lion]

WTS EU PM

[solar python]

how unlucky that that sword is 2 mantra

[azure moth]

thanks guy

i think i should be happy with what it is rn

or crazy rerolling till i got cr =)))

cause i still got 3 items need to be rerolled

[astral tendon]

2 mantra and meh crit damage roll

[winged reef]

I mean legendary

[solar python]

yeah you try legendary transmute and you get a purple stone slash

[winged reef]

I’m known for the 1 taps

[grizzled gale]

you might wanna log into my acc and tap my weapon then

[loud hinge]

gl

struggle at upgrading gears with 20% chance. Wonder how will 5% be like

[astral tendon]

in case you hit it, it’s not stone slash, and you don’t want to reroll, I’ll buy the book

[astral tendon]

im 1/43

havent gambled for a while tho

puncture cost too much

[vivid robin]

@astral tendon o yea how much xp did you bust out in MSP this morn? i was with you on the opposite side 😂

[astral tendon]

500k in like 45 ish mins i think.

that spot is meh.

[winged reef]

Probably worth to reroll legendary unless you’re unlucky and get 3 fragments

[vivid robin]

i can only usually do like 150 per 30 mins

[solar python]

I do 150k per 30 as well

But I am only level 56

[vivid robin]

ah yea i'm 58, how's your combat xp?

[solar python]

220

[vivid robin]

mines at 210% i think

[astral tendon]

im at 230%

[winged reef]

I got 105k with 120% once

Depends how many big guys spawn

[astral tendon]

normally, if no big guys

without fighting for mobs

[vivid robin]

i can do 1 big aoe pack once a minute and kill the yetis in between

[astral tendon]

is 300k per 30 for me

actually to be exact, around 350 in the main spot. 270/280 in the side spot.

[vivid robin]

pretty good

[solar python]

What is the main spot

The 4 yeti spot?

[vivid robin]

i don't think most average geared players can clear any faster

[astral tendon]

yeah

the 4 yeti spot with a big camp above it

[solar python]

4 yeti spot is always taken

[astral tendon]

i got it a few times

[vivid robin]

u don't kill any mobs in AOE?

[astral tendon]

i group them and just hit.

sun storke is aoe after all

[solar python]

I kill 2 3 packs each with 1 yeti and after that a duo pack

Thats my usual spot

[vivid robin]

i kill like 5 mobs in a pull, then kill 2 yetis + run back, instant cycle

can't do more and have to pot for hp usually

man i want drain

[astral tendon]

if not the 4 yeti, i just do the 2 yeti camp with like 6 small mobs, another staff guy, then run across for yeti+3 mobs

[solar python]

I use drain charms

[astral tendon]

so is like 4 yeti in an rotation

[solar python]

With9ut drain charms you camt sustain

[astral tendon]

the main spots have 6 in a rotation

[vivid robin]

kinda okay juju, with the amount of AOE CCS we got and if u use poh core

[astral tendon]

i always use 305 charm just to be faster

[solar python]

Yep

Imagine having legendary drain set

Kinda insane with 600+

[vivid robin]

one day

[astral tendon]

is 💩 with dt

[hearty sentinel]

Idk if this is a thing in KR but is there a way to increase base stats after upgrading to true to so you can get max stats on accs, weap. etc

[solar python]

No

[astral tendon]

no

[solar python]

Cant increase acc stats

[astral tendon]

well you can reroll for higher stats

but thats rng and it can roll other stats

if you want to mini maxing stats, you have to buy another base then upgrade

[hearty sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/stewie-gun-suicide-gif-13872495

[solar python]

Just dont bother

In silverfrost you have 18 chances to get big stats

Or more

Surely its not nerfed into the ground because its nore chances

Right

[hearty sentinel]

Wdym 18?

[last void]

The RNG on purp gear to roll high is lower than legendary so even though you have the purp path before legendary don't expect to RNG high rolls. That's more likely to happen once you're in the legendary tree

At least that's how it currently is 🤔

[hearty sentinel]

You mean the +1 to 10?

+10 is guaranteed max stats?

[solar python]

no still rng

pretty sure

[hearty sentinel]

💩

[honest timber]

got this from random lunar mob 😳

[valid cradle]

Thats a lot of crit

[honest timber]

I guess it's worth to try and roll crit damage since my siren sword doesn't even have mantras

[solar python]

sad that its not crit damage instead of rate and not 3 mantra

tough

can probably sell for like 3-4k like that though

[honest timber]

can't have it all 😔 🤟

idk

[solar python]

not 3 mantra is big rip always

[honest timber]

there are similar ones for 2.5

[solar python]

I guess I over guestimated a bit

[honest timber]

I also have this one

but I'll need to roll c. damage and get it all the way to hexwood

[solar python]

thats really good though

pretty good crit dam roll

[winged reef]

My true siren weapon had 120 crit and 80 cdmg

[solar python]

and you only need to reroll to accuracy or crit rate

[winged reef]

still went up a lot

plus you're going to upgrade it all across silverfrost so it will go up eventually

[solar python]

the %s for the stat upgrade are so weird

seems like random %s on each stat

[honest timber]

the siren one it's ~20 crit rate off perfect roll

hexwood only 8

[solar python]

like is there even a pattern

[honest timber]

I think it's kind of divided into blocks

[edgy lion]

WTS EU PM

[honest timber]

but yeah its kinda random

[marble sleet]

Hello, can someone share with me their Puncture macro with the Razer app please 🙂

[fallow wind]

U should use that weapon 100% 213 crit rate first stage is massive

[loud hinge]

i'm struggling to find a decent bracelet to replace this scrap

[hidden pawn]

@spiral sky u around?

[spiral sky]

i am?

[hidden pawn]

Someone using my ahk that u and i made and he says it dcs him u know why?

[spiral sky]

antiddos client side probably

[hidden pawn]

How can he fix it?

[spiral sky]

https://discord.com/channels/1164688788086345830/1382776271980855386

try that

[hidden pawn]

@karmic rose

[spiral sky]

i want to quit

[last void]

Hope it makes you feel better

[spiral sky]

what pruple

[last void]

It doesn't matter 😤

What it wasn't was a legendary stone slash 😭

[loud hinge]

i quit ascending mine and bought an org hex 140 cr at 2200

i felt better with this still attempting to reroll augment

[spiral sky]

gonna wait for bp tickets

they sure will bring it for us

right?

[solar python]

no

[spiral sky]

[solar python]

I don't think there is an ounce of chance we are getting gold pass

[spiral sky]

trash ncamerica

[last void]

Does gold pass have legendary books 🤔

[solar python]

no

you take a normal bp

you add like 30% more stuff

and like 12 free taps on your gear

thats gold pass

[spiral sky]

they gave 4 scraps in kr

ur just need 500gold

[last void]

I wish 😦

[spiral sky]

[loud hinge]

reroll to get desire book with 500g per tap. Yet talk about obtaining only 3 pcs if salvaged

[spiral sky]

just buy more legendary honed

im legit just need a new game

to make me quit

for real

[solar python]

yeah Aion 2 will save MMORPGs

[loud hinge]

a lot of " new " games lack of contents

this game has great contents but we are " drained " too hard

[spiral sky]

2016 content

[solar python]

worse than 2016 content

legit downgraded

[loud hinge]

comparing to the new game's

[solar python]

modern combat systems atm suffer from wanting to be playable on mobile

even Aion 2 is supposedly gonna have mobile functionality

with AI scripts that let healers heal the lowest target

Even Chrono Odyssey suffers from it since they want it to be crossplatform with consoles

[loud hinge]

i call CO is NW 2.0

[hidden pawn]

They wont even give us quests to finish regular pass and u want more rewards haha high hopes

[hearty sentinel]

Would be nice if chat switched to pt chat when you join one

[solar python]

That is way too advanced

NCSoft can not code that

[hearty sentinel]

I mean it's on LIVE already

[sage tulip]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/806714809462161478/1295902299822231583/20240405_090211_doc_2024-03-29_05-29-41.gif

[loud hinge]

how much should i list purple pierce?

[sage tulip]

2k for me

[slender kelp]

wait for the pierce megabuff that will put puncturebros out of a job, invest now!

[gilded thistle]

Im setting up my alt to run it

[winged reef]

a poh run https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWf_dTCUdyA

[fallow wind]

bro is trying to hard

[slender kelp]

lightning makes this game look hard

[fallow wind]

https://tenor.com/view/tri-kool-trihard-trihex-twitch-gif-14891671

[gilded thistle]

I enjoyed both the gameplay and music

[winged reef]

[gilded thistle]

That fov, i need it

[winged reef]

Do not check in your dms then

[gilded thistle]

[hearty sentinel]

Lighting doesn't look so bad, i wonder why the nerf

[hearty sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/big-oof-size-small-medium-switch-gif-17355313

[silver moth]

so, what i need to play lighting?

[winged reef]

A few internal organs

[silver moth]

time to sell one of my kidneys

[hearty sentinel]

I'll be so happy when they remove the crit requirement to boost a skill

[silver moth]

yeah, just give puncture boost on-hit lunarslash

[hearty sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/genius-shit-snoop-dogg-phat-tuesdays-thats-genius-its-genius-gif-24914106

[astral tendon]

fatal error when entering msp for monarch

great game

@honest haven lmk the hp

ill see if it is even worth to try to join or not

im geeting 2-3 fatal error per day ever since msp release

[honest haven]

96%

seems slow enough

[astral tendon]

uh then should be plenty of time

as long as i dont fatal error again

[honest haven]

I got in the right instance as well so might not need party

80%

[astral tendon]

ffs

i got baited

[honest haven]

lmao

at least we got a second clear

[astral tendon]

2 more hour glass.

guess i really can get to 60 if i want today

@vivid robin still tree?

daily only tho

[vivid robin]

just hopped off :c

[astral tendon]

k

[honest haven]

@lethal prairie hey just wondering, do you prefer war cry block for some specific reason to parry, or did you just end up with it and never bothered switching?

I got a bound purple war cry but the parry is kinda nice

[astral tendon]

Probably just cost saving

War cry is worse in every aspect and you disable taunt 99% of the time

[honest haven]

ig, I'm just wondering if its ever better than a blue parry x)

probably not then?

at least for hybrid

I figured perhaps the taunt can be clutch sometimes

maybe disrupt a mech/attack idk

[astral tendon]

whats happening to the game

why did i have this many fatal error in the past 3 days

i just want to tower

[last void]

Fatality

[honest haven]

they did a bunch of shadow fixes to disconnects over the past week or so I think

before that I would dc on mushin floor 3 every day

now I havent dced

might be worth asking support about it if you don't solve it 🤷‍♂️

https://i.imgur.com/rnEew25.png

though fatal error suggests something else, it might be some collateral damage from the fixes

[astral tendon]

i rarely have fatal error in the past

and for the past 2/3 days

every loading screen is a lottery

[lethal prairie]

Yea I just had one didn't bother switching and taunt is almost always disabled anyway

[solar python]

Saeha is 74 and half way to 75 already

[winged reef]

Is 75 max

[solar python]

no clue

supposedly its uncapped

[winged reef]

That just sounds stupid

They have an achievement for 75 hopefully that’s max

[astral tendon]

Do they even still get exp from 60 mobs

Also I think somewhere in the silverforst stream mentioned it’s uncapped levelling

[solar python]

yeah it was in the patch preview or live stream

but I was never sure if it was correctly translated

just means that pvp is even more dead than before

its amazing how that is even possible

[grizzled gale]

never seen a company that caters to whales as much as this, absolute circus

[solar python]

it doesn't even cater to whales

even whales want to be done with levelling

[astral tendon]

I mean, the level is actually not p2w friendly

I pay because I don’t want to 24/7 no life gaming for BnS Neo maybe for a while with new patch

But not everyday

To level up you actually have to play every mins when you awake

If you are f2p no lifer and start to save hourglass now

You will over level most of the whales

[silver moth]

infinite level, so dumb

[solar python]

worst thing is that msp is not even a solo instance

so most people have to play when there is actually already people grinding

just imagine silverfrost release

whales have 50+ hourglasses at least

and they just run around 2 shotting mobs

like 2 whales are enough to lock down an entire 60 zone probably

[silver moth]

yeah, i dont like msp

since the update, i have only go msp 3 times

kinda boring

[valid cradle]

In theory its a good addition

But it kinda becomes just another thing to add to the list of things you have to do

[astral tendon]

Grind to 60 and then just do monarch

It saves time compare to grind tree to level up

[hushed briar]

do those lvl give everytime ap and stats?

[last void]

Probably , what I'm wondering is how it affects the crit stats etc

[astral tendon]

You % is always the same against mobs at the same level

It went down when you level up because now the calculation factor mobs with higher level

So it doesn’t matter

[valid cradle]

Then there's the level difference component too

[winged reef]

It does matter when you go against higher lvl mobs tho

Naksun is 67

At this rate we’ll have 20% crit against Naksun unless you have Lab shields

[valid cradle]

When detect is your only source of crits

[astral tendon]

well level matters

but your crit wont decrease when level up

[winged reef]

10 poh solos and nothing drops, 1 run on my alt with full group and the cards drop

[valid cradle]

The situation you fear the most 😔

Also really makes you wonder why the poha card has a lower droprate

[solar python]

why would that make you wonder

its a good card

NCSoft doesn't want you to have the good sh*t

[valid cradle]

Yeah but its literally the only one

Not even hae mujin

[winged reef]

Good fodder sh*t you mean

Last one I had was sacrificed for legendary gamba

[astral tendon]

Don’t know how many poh has been fused

At least 20 for me

I always get her from either 5 karri or blue cards

[winged reef]

Cards are rarer than books for me

Havent seen a single card from Hae yet or a bracelet

[solar python]

I think I've seen 2 or 3 purple book chests drop and like 6-7 cards

haven't won any card drop 🙂

[winged reef]

Have you tried rolling higher 🙂

[solar python]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-laptop-duh-gif-8033838636860661307

[astral tendon]

Skill issue

Just be good at rolling

[somber kiln]

how much these go for these days

[solar python]

I think I bought mine for 1.5k

but that was before legendary puncture reveal

[lethal prairie]

think got mine for 2.5 or something

after the legy puncture reveal xD

[last void]

I couldn't sell mine for 1.8 a week ago

[loud hinge]

Is 50% cost reduction of fusion coming up next patch or bp?

[winged reef]

It should be next patch yea

[solar python]

should

[gilded thistle]

[loud hinge]

I’m stacking hundreds of green cards. Hopefully i won’t be detained

[astral tendon]

I mean why would you

Unless they increase the cost

Which i don’t think even nc is stupid enough to do it

[hybrid willow]

reduc cost in next patch

to save gold

fuse cost

[edgy plaza]

loved the eurobeat and the mako and sayuki theme on 2nd track

[winged reef]

Yes they are great

Had them in my head so I had to use them

[edgy plaza]

i got this in my head now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU0mPo-i__I&list=RDvU0mPo-i__I&start_radio=1

[hearty sentinel]

Is there a website timer for big boss at skyhaven? there are always some guys killing it, they are there even before it spawns

And ofc they won't let anyone else kill it

[honest haven]

it doesnt look too different from hybrid ngl

but I guess the rmb is aoe?

nice run tho

[honest haven]

are card fuses also lowered? thought it was just insignias

bro I've used so much gold fusing cards ;_;

[wooden rain]

The difference is you need a ton of extra skills for buff uptime

Some at legendary level

[honest haven]

oh I see

so its hybrid with extra steps

[wooden rain]

Hybrid is just fire with lightning lmb

So i don't know if extra steps is the right way to say it for basically an entirely separate build

[honest haven]

yeah I was being cheeky, by extra steps I meant having to maintain bd

for hybrid its pretty brainless

[wooden rain]

Because having 2 sec tab reduction on rmb is balanced for one build and having 0 is "balanced" for another

[edgy lion]

WTS EU PM

[honest haven]

question what happens to your mileage when they merge the insignias? given alts have their own mileage

would suck if it resets all of them

since card fuses all share mileage

[lethal prairie]

95min msp

[valid cradle]

I think you can already go beyond 100%, so I dont think it would be an issue

[astral tendon]

You can go beyond 100% even tho it only show 100%

[opal salmon]

When did they merge insignias in korea?

[astral tendon]

After you claim the mileage box you will see the rest

Silverforst I think?

[valid cradle]

Think so too

With the new tier

[cedar pike]

Does they merge just only legendary isignia or all off them?

[valid cradle]

Pretty sure its all like cards

[winged reef]

Both rmb and lmb are aoe yes

[winged reef]

Technically it’s just Multislash extra. The other bd skills are useless at endgame. Then ofc legendary 4 but even other builds could use that skill just like Sun Stroke

[wooden rain]

I'm mixing buff and focus in my mind because lightning suffers much more with both, but there's quite a difference in their importance

For hybrid I'm not even sure how many focus recovery skills would be optimal (if any), and tab is the only buff skill, not even using blade storm for buff

[winged reef]

Bd and focus are closely related on lightning because you consume much less focus during it, so the more bd you have the less focus issues you have

Also the mystic badge only working during lightning blade is ass, should be electric saber by default because if you don’t have bd up it’s useless

[wooden rain]

Which is why leg 4 is basically core for lightning and nice to have for others

[winged reef]

Purple should give you 4s then legendary 6s like honed slash instead of 0 to 6. But that’s called good balancing and they don’t like that

[gilded thistle]

[winged reef]

TDS reduces Blade Call cd by 1 on every hit during bd. Easy fix

[last void]

Reduce tab by 1 sec during BD*

[winged reef]

I think BC would be better. More focus, more bd and more damage like you get on burst

[last void]

I think it would be too strong and just being able to reset tab more consistently is good enough of a change

[winged reef]

I mean Puncture is “too strong” already and they keep buffing it so

[last void]

They added a 10s buff to rancor and changed it to 3s on last hit within weeks

[last void]

It doesn't need to be "too strong" it just needs to be relatively alright

My opinion at least

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[winged reef]

30GM stacks of Stone Slash gives you 10s of buff now on 36s cd

So it’s basically like the old rancor

[last void]

Aware

[winged reef]

But you need to sell your organs for those skills

[last void]

No it's not basically like the old rancor because you need like 6 skillbook slots for it

[winged reef]

Only 2 actually

Base legendary gives you 12

[last void]

Right

[winged reef]

With 2 you’d get 30

[last void]

That's my legendary stoneslash right there

[winged reef]

[last void]

Actually it says 1 heroic skillbook but it's 2 legendary ones

[winged reef]

I will try my luck some time next week

I will get it for you dw

And use it myself

[last void]

Thanks they were both stoneslash , I sent them on their honeymoon in 9 months they'll drop a TDS for me

[wooden rain]

It's the most involved build bm has

I know this game has everything backwards but normally more effort should be higher reward

[winged reef]

Only thing it rewards is more effort swiping

[last void]

Even though I do agree with that , it was clearly never their intention since fire's rework on live.

[wooden rain]

Yeah and who cares about dev intention when it comes to balance discussions

[last void]

🤨

[wooden rain]

We have a decade of proof they don't know or care about it

The fun in live was also undone by them simplifying gameplay constantly to the point i quit and stopped following what changed

[astral tendon]

Is this eu lol

Better than my ring

[nova lotus]

damn that looks sexy

[solar python]

rerolling? I'd say the chance someone is quitting is porbably 4-5 times higher

[astral tendon]

When will neen, ill or chifusa quit

So the market can finally have some punctures in it

[solar python]

Surely we will have an event soon that will meaningfully increase the supply of purple books

[astral tendon]

Just let the bot back

God is also better than my neck

why is this not eu

[solar python]

if you have that kind of gear

isn't crit rate on mantra really bad

?

[last void]

Wait how much is it

[winged reef]

smh why doesn’t eu have more quitters right

[solar python]

EU quitters already left

NA has more copium

[astral tendon]

Crit rate is better in 99% of the case

Other than mushin tower 5th floor

[last void]

🤨

Is that NA 🤣

[astral tendon]

Cos you have 100% crit rate

[last void]

Grr

[solar python]

idk I'd think crit damage is way better, considering crit rate should have much bigger diminishing returns

[last void]

That's a flat 2.5%

[astral tendon]

That 2.5% is literally 2.5%

[winged reef]

Idk I’d take crit rate

[astral tendon]

Not 2.5% of what ever number you have

[winged reef]

I have 46% crit on tree sometimes

Cdmg is useless if you crit that little

[last void]

What's your c.rate at 🤔

[astral tendon]

See, with puncture you’d have 60%

[winged reef]

Real number is 0 cause I’d quit

[last void]

Honestly the worst part about any fight is the number of breezes I need to do 🤦‍♂️

[winged reef]

Buff Breeze 2025

[astral tendon]

I have 2 fcking bound breeze

They better buff it so I can stack

[last void]

Stacking breeze 10 focus per hit on 48 stacks

🤪

[winged reef]

I thought about using cyclone lmb but the buff lasts so little it’d run out by the time I got into draw stance

[last void]

And just like that you nerfed my breeze

[winged reef]

What’s this live crit rate

[gilded thistle]

46% oh god

[winged reef]

Well tbf it was 46% on rmb only, it doesn’t show overall. But rmb is the main damage anyway

[gilded thistle]

Still that's depressingly low

[winged reef]

If you take into account some of those crits were without bd buff it’s even worse

[gilded thistle]

I kinda felt that first couple of days of doing tree as pierce. Getting 0 pierces off due to no crits on BD

kill me please

[silver moth]

still copium for DT and lighting

wish we could swap the 2 problems of dt and lighting

and flash step

[last void]

That's not specific to lightning BM that's just specific to him

[silver moth]

kfm has new F and new 4 so we can copium on the possible flash step like live version

[winged reef]

Move it to V sure but don’t make it the main dps skill. It’s fun to use but I don’t really want it to be like live

[silver moth]

i like it on live server, something fresh new is alway good

[winged reef]

Yea agreed but ani cancel is not the focus anymore and I don’t like that 100%. But it’s nice having other big damage skills and rotation

[silver moth]

yeah, focus regen on live was a mistake

and ani-cancel lightning, still the main way to maintain dps

[solar python]

level 57

[silver moth]

my is defend

[solar python]

how much would you say this is worth?

curious how close I can get it to perfect 1/1/4 once I have cyclone for 10% crit

[winged reef]

Fused 5 purple cards into another purple

[astral tendon]

5 Kaari to 1 kaari

Happened a few times to me

[loud hinge]

Mine was atk/def

[spiral sky]

WTS bm

[sage tulip]

[gilded thistle]

[sage tulip]

[gilded thistle]

New drip

[solar python]

[wooden rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ejzqm1KWjg

[sage tulip]

huh all keys gone already

lol

[hybrid willow]

https://eu.alienwarearena.com/ucf/show/2172677/boards/contest-and-giveaways-global/Giveaway/blade-and-soul-neo-onjeong-outfit-pack-key-giveaway

take this link

@sage tulip

[sage tulip]

reCAPTCHA validation failure. Please try again in a few minutes.

[hybrid willow]

y spam

[sage tulip]

oh got it now

thanks!

[hybrid willow]

np you can give me a soaring falcon now

🙂

[sage tulip]

[winged reef]

Up to 5000 how would they run out when only 5 people play this game

[gilded thistle]

Thats what i said, people freaking out in VC

im like

guys

we dont have 5k players total

chill

[sage tulip]

bots

[gilded thistle]

[sage tulip]

[winged reef]

Yea there's like around 4300 left, the links are just broken

[solar python]

this game is so dead not even botters are gonna even try to yoink the codes

[coarse sun]

pierce build was extra cheap yesterday

[astral tendon]

you lucky nobody bought those to salvage

[winged reef]

I only buy at 1000