Blade Master

[astral tendon]

1 badge has 3 effects

Dt is -0.7 second sun stroke cd

The current one is -1

[solar python]

same with the soul badge

[winged reef]

0.7 or 1 should be the same if you have purple tab no

[astral tendon]

And dt soul badge is only 45% still bull 💩

[solar python]

puncture gets 30% more over virtous even compared to DT only getting 10%

[astral tendon]

Is still objectively worse than Sun stroke badge in any situation

[winged reef]

Lightning gets 40% extra

Should have been 400 frfr

[somber kiln]

Bruh

Wdf

[solar python]

I feel like fire is probably just gonna keep old badges with exp on them and just say f*ck the stats

[somber kiln]

Some dev couldnt play fire on live it seems

[solar python]

unless exp on new badges is higher % but doubt that

[somber kiln]

And just hating on it

[winged reef]

Holding rmb too hard

[somber kiln]

Unless they buffed the skills
These badges are so lame

[solar python]

I mean in a couple months they might want more money from whales and buff fire again

so people panic reroll

again

[somber kiln]

“On live”

Whatever it is

Im sticking with my build

Dont even care at this point

[winged reef]

Same

[solar python]

In my opinion fire in neo would have a lot less people swapping to puncture if DT was AoE

DT not being AoE is such a cmon bruh moment

[somber kiln]

Correcr

And second

Violent blade used to proc on dt

[solar python]

yeah

[somber kiln]

I could smack the ho that design neo fire

[winged reef]

My question is is lightning weaker because its aoe? If all builds were equal why wouldnt you pick the aoe build?

Then again there are no double boss fights

So aoe is irrelevant

[solar python]

nah there is builds like dragonchar that absolutely rip

on a ranged class even

with much bigger aoe than dt would have

[somber kiln]

Im noticing a bias against fire bm at this point

[solar python]

Execute on Destroyer is huge AoE burst nuke and its the meta

[somber kiln]

Des is even broken rn

And they’re getting a bigger buff soon

[solar python]

Lightning build is just bad because devs don't like it

they probably see it as the pvp build

no pvp = no good lightning

[somber kiln]

Breaks my heart man

[solar python]

Puncture being good even is an accident

[winged reef]

If that was true thered be no bd buff

Its not very pratical in pvp

Also how can you hate it when every bm mob in the game uses lightning

[solar python]

every bm mob also uses lunar slash and pierce as well as lmb

checkmate atheist

[wooden rain]

the basic ones use basic stance skills

the "advanced" ones use draw stance

mostly just 4, f, lmb, rmb

[spiral sky]

"Whales everywhere!"

[astral tendon]

Wind sever exist

Is clearly not weak because it’s aoe

It’s weak because some stupid devs don’t like it

[winged reef]

I think Juwol in Circle of Sundering was the first fire bm boss

Lightning so strong, solo'd CS

[silver moth]

wait, this is live, right?

no way neo dev can handle this, this is too much for them

"omg, hold RB and press x3 V every 6s is too hard"

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/uh-what-gif-25782225

[vivid robin]

with 195% xp solo msp, in hybrid, if its any guideline for anyone

[solar python]

just running around killing yetis?

[vivid robin]

circle rotation, yeti, yeti, full aoe burst on yeti+4 mobs, repeat, using poh core also in aoe

[silver moth]

For macro puncture, is hit rate of lb-tab-rb can be ~ 2/1 sec?

[wicked plank]

thats low puncture can do well over 200k in 30 mins

[vivid robin]

with what xp % though/gear

i thought punct would struggle a lil but i haven't asked anyone how they're doing

[wicked plank]

175%

everything maxed but neck and belt

[vivid robin]

ah yeah prob have a lot more gear than me, kinda missing stuff and only 16gm DT

[wicked plank]

4 hourglasses

oh yea 50gm punctuer :kekw

[vivid robin]

good to know punct is strong enough though in msp

tab does a fair bit of damage i assume?

[wicked plank]

purple tab over blue tab was like 5k increase

[astral tendon]

Still kill 1 by 1

He is just faster

[spiral sky]

Really?

Wtb purple lunar na

[solar python]

doing anything special?

[limpid blaze]

5 hourglass

[winged reef]

I guess if you spent 2k gems buying hourglasses and can make it back in MSP it pays itself

[limpid blaze]

Until everyone hits 60

[solar python]

I guess everyone is legit just cranking mobs and I am just too low level to really take advantage

lvl 54

57-60 probably gonna take less time than 54-57

[winged reef]

If you can kill lvl 60 mobs solo or even 2 man you can get almost 100k

Or at least above 50k

[limpid blaze]

And if you’re looking for max xp gains you’ll have to go solo

[solar python]

Yeah I can do 100k+ for sure

[spiral sky]

I don't have the endurance

For that

Wheres autocombat

[solar python]

5 hourglasses as in 2.5 hours? or you used the ones you got as well?

[limpid blaze]

Total 3 hours spent, free 30 minutes

[spiral sky]

What's ur xp boost?

[astral tendon]

dt sucks

[solar python]

ok mister 1.2k ap

[astral tendon]

not even 1.2k

1180 lol

[solar python]

ok mr almost 1.2k ap

[hybrid willow]

You stay dt or go back puncture

[astral tendon]

I buy puncture but swap next patch maybe

[lethal dew]

One of us! One of us!

[winged reef]

You mean

One of all?

[spiral sky]

Nanaya salvaging leg is guaranteed 4 pieces?

Or is the same 3-5 rng

[lethal dew]

3-5

[wind timber]

ofc it's 3-5 so you can get f'ed by trying to reroll just 1

[lethal dew]

I salvaged 3 pieces on an fm 4 times a row , I think this is not a 33.33% chance

[wind timber]

[lethal dew]

Game is rigged

[wind timber]

[winged reef]

It’s not terrible

[spiral sky]

This devs are a joke

Can't even safe reroll

[wind timber]

Yeah, it's almost max cd possible

I'll take it anytime

Also rolled this beauty yday

[solar python]

that is disgusting

[lethal dew]

People with bad luck like me gonna suffered , which I think most of us has bad luck

I heard someone printed an extra legendary book rerolling but I lost 2 books

[spiral sky]

[solar python]

lost 2 full books?

holy sh*t

[lethal dew]

Didn’t really dared to salvage the last one with no extra fragment left

[gilded thistle]

Holy shaft

[spiral sky]

You get 99% of the time that "33,3% 3 pieces"

[solar python]

I am convinced that most mmo rng systems are based on account id

[lethal dew]

Math not mathing

[solar python]

My steam account is pretty damn lucky compared to my old purple account

[lethal dew]

There also said nowhere that % of salvaging legendary has a 33.33% for 3,4,5 frags . It could be rigged and has 80% to salvaged to 3 pieces who know

[lethal dew]

Me too

[spiral sky]

/rng-level 9

[wicked plank]

murder everything

[lethal dew]

I just noticed but why bm has over 100k messages

[wind timber]

it reached 100k like month ago

or more even

bm chat is the real neo chat

[winged reef]

Around 75k xp today in MSP with 120%

Was a bit slow too so could have been 90k~

lots of spots taken

[solar python]

solo at level 54 with 210%
I was running between 3 yeti spawns hoping for a big boy and I didn't get one

I guess 6 level difference is just kinda big negative for efficiency

[winged reef]

I am tempted to buy hourglasses but with 120% only I don’t think it’s worth it

[solar python]

nah its not you get 60 before silverfrost anyway

[winged reef]

Yea but

FOMO

[twin lark]

Dw lv 75 cap released at silver anyway

https://tenor.com/view/the-grind-dont-stop-gif-26421494

[winged reef]

Are those even regular levels

Or easier to get for no stats

Cause if they’re regular levels the crit rate must be abysmal at 75

[solar python]

its just regular levels

[wind timber]

regular

But technically you get more crit against targets of the lower lvl

So it would be even

[solar python]

that must be the reason why they took the % out of the game

[wind timber]

It's just a stats

[winged reef]

Yea but seeing 20% crit rate would bug me

[wind timber]

I don't

[winged reef]

Inb4 they release lvl 75 bosses

[solar python]

Raven raid boss level 200

[wind timber]

Well asura is 58

After 60 shadowmoor

So idk

I doubt they would go past 60 for now

[solar python]

Levels are basically the nerfs to content over time

[wind timber]

Yeah kinda

[solar python]

kinda stupid system though

[winged reef]

Isnt shadowmoor 58 too

[wind timber]

i'm pretty sure it's 60 but

Maybe i'm wrong

60

[spiral sky]

What is level

[winged reef]

Let’s see if I fail a 6th purple book transmute again in a row

[limpid blaze]

280

[lethal dew]

From enraged timer or from tanking?

[twin lark]

From range dying, they all died so we had to reset and he left

[lethal dew]

I see , was the range tanking? bc I think I know that guy is a warlock and if warlock has aggro there’s some dps issue going on

I heard wl do like summoner’s damage

[twin lark]

Well i can only tank one, so he was highest range dps and had to tank blue and then he died, then left like a btch

[spiral sky]

I miss dark

Trashtalking

[lethal dew]

no way the other 4 people do less damage than a wl 😭

[spiral sky]

That cant be right

Top 1 wl is from my guild

An hes doing 14k

On har

[twin lark]

Nah he was like 4th in dmg, the others were killing red with me

[spiral sky]

Hae

[twin lark]

poopy dmg and left like he was a whale not worth running with us

Blocked that mofo asap

Not the first time he does it

[spiral sky]

[thin smelt]

Sure I will DM you a vid.

[spiral sky]

Plz dm me as well

[lethal dew]

@leaden dawn will help you have focus up all the time with 50% of ur wb shares pls contact him 🤗 best summ NA

[thin smelt]

The gearbot deleted my messages lol but it's OK.

[winged reef]

Wish I could get a loan of 700 dg rn

[leaden dawn]

You gotta give me a better deal than kelly

My slots are filled

hehe

[arctic olive]

lmao i do 20k on tree

with moonwater exp soul badge

@twin larkwho even are you lmfao

[twin lark]

Same

[leaden dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/arting-siamese-cat-gigachad-ambatukam-ambasing-gif-26293326

[silk beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/arting-siamese-cat-gigachad-ambatukam-ambasing-gif-26293326

[wind timber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1134867118878371891/1388049800418824252/nk-image-edit-caption-gdn6nxus.gif

[leaden dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lost-mind-share-this-cat-gif-10624429942940364630

[wind timber]

[astral tendon]

whats this lol.

[winged reef]

Rowen boosted rng gg

[wind timber]

lmao

gz

[astral tendon]

is this game

trying to hint me sonething

i had like 40 ish frag before left

bought 2 1k purple book

[wind timber]

it's screaming

not hinting

[silk beacon]

dont fall into it

send it to me so u forget about it and stay happy on dt

ill help u mate

[astral tendon]

like at this rate

ill litearlly get 10 puncture from boxes in a month

[silk beacon]

XD

and by that time u can hit the legendary one

[astral tendon]

silverforst is probably sep

or the end of Aug

[hybrid willow]

sep and what we get before

we just have 1 dg left

[astral tendon]

yah, just shadowmoor

[hybrid willow]

for 2 month

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-undisputed-nope-funny-face-gif-536487951695337499

[astral tendon]

i mean we get that at the end of july i guess

[hybrid willow]

its rly a little patch if its only that

and cost red for card and insignia

[astral tendon]

i mean is not going to be big update every month

[hybrid willow]

will see

[astral tendon]

imagine i out damage myself with 2 purple puncture and rest blue

[vivid robin]

i do think they're gonna flip flop builds constantly in future patches

or they won't make money right 💀

[wind timber]

I can easily see that outcome

[winged reef]

Rich get poorer but still richer smh

[astral tendon]

imagine making money via gambling

in game

they probably make a lot from kr whale re rolling

cos mega whale in kr all stack leg dt

tho at least pending gem can still be spent in f10

[vivid robin]

they do?

:o

[astral tendon]

i mean after all if you have 200 stack dt, is gonna be better than 60 puncture no matter how broken it is

[vivid robin]

yeah i can imagine

[astral tendon]

you dont even need 200, 3 leg with 102 stacks would probably be a big enough difference

[vivid robin]

do they still use sunstroke badge with 200gm tho

[astral tendon]

yes

[hybrid willow]

and still at silverfrost because no sun stroke new badge 🤡

[astral tendon]

dt badge is so 💩 , it wont be mathematically better even with 200 stadcks

even with the 45% badge in silver forst

ss badeg is still better

mathematically

[vivid robin]

ik i'm gonna hate switching to punc when i do, draw stance has a lot of mobility, cc, built in buffs

[astral tendon]

well

5% crit rate and 20% crit damage is probably worse than 15% crit rate

[vivid robin]

i guess, but the immediate capability to flash step will be missed

[astral tendon]

mobility, basic stance actually has better mobility due to 6 second cs rush

flash step, i lock it cos it replace f block

[vivid robin]

nanaya noooo

[astral tendon]

most of the time is useless

[vivid robin]

you're missing out

[astral tendon]

other than chasing the wb, if some dumb ppl decide to pull it 50 m away

[vivid robin]

ik flash step cucks you out of blocking in draw

but it's pretty dope to get out of reds/reposition, sometimes if i rly have to block i'll quickly q/ss back into draw

[astral tendon]

cc is probably the only advantage since you most likely have meteor strike, we dont count lightning as a proper build

[vivid robin]

not optimal ig but it's fun when it works

[astral tendon]

puncture has 0 cc when fully stacked

[vivid robin]

[winged reef]

Unfortunately neo devs don’t know how to move a skill to a different keybind so they don’t overlap

Negative iq

[astral tendon]

They also don’t know how to show skill cd

Like let me see the meteor strike cd in draw stance

Without flocks you don’t have anything on x anyway

[winged reef]

Yea why bother using unused space when you can just overlap

[silver moth]

atp we can say neo is private server

[vivid robin]

i haven't minded too much with it being behind flash step

i've always used flash to avoid reds/double flash through to position, got used to it ig

and then i have lil window where flash isn't trolling draw block

def inconvenient though ya

it's felt like a more active, higher apm playstyle, but when the DPS is ass too...

[winged reef]

Love when 2 Explosive Fiends spawn simultaneously at the same time at the same place

[sweet gull]

Hello guys, I need some tips on puncture build. Can someone help out?

[limpid blaze]

r tab t repeat

[silk beacon]

that build its like, 20k puncture, 7k lmb and 15k tab?

just to start ?

[static yoke]

the ratio isnt that high for tab. probably 5k lmb 9k tab for a 20k puncture

[silk beacon]

didnt know, just checked market

[lethal dew]

who listed that puncture for 40k on NA

[grand forge]

wts purple puncture na pmo

[sweet gull]

The issue is with the cd between each one I am on 90 ping

[solar python]

[solar python]

[upbeat fossil]

was just about to post the same

[silk beacon]

cyclone > puncture

[wooden rain]

Why do botters make des bots when bm lmb tab is cheap, simple, and effective

[astral tendon]

is this eu, maybe I can sell my lmb for some quick gem

I have purple tab and lmb for some reason

[vivid robin]

with those prices i can hop specs by 2027, lesgoooo

[upbeat fossil]

it's eu yeah

sell your lmb for 6k

[astral tendon]

Nah 24k and we have a deal

[solar python]

probably because the groundwork is already done, destro bots have been the main bot class since blade and soul released

[astral tendon]

I heard puncture is more broken than wind bd atm in kr

If you have at least 4 leg books

[solar python]

In KR getting legendary books is way easier though, right?

[astral tendon]

I mean don’t quote me on this, someone told me before silverforst patch kr has an event to give everyone 4 leg book fragments

So y it is ez

Cos basically everyone had one

[upbeat fossil]

watch us get 4 hmb potions

[solar python]

so yeah we will get an event that will give us 2 fragments

I tried mathing it out how long it would take to get a legendary skill on average playing 5 characters and transmuting everything and its like 200 days

[gilded thistle]

4 fragments, and a lot of lightning draws in our future

[somber kiln]

Whats a good price for purp puncture in NA?

[honest timber]

so close! and without doing the dungeon even once

[silk beacon]

that set is huge

[astral tendon]

360 drain is meh

[silk beacon]

i still have 0

so

XD

[solar python]

with 20 card limit you probably jsut want to max out sets with crit damage

[astral tendon]

Yep

[winged reef]

I’d rather have crit rate

[solar python]

like outside of getting legendary sets

[winged reef]

No point in having cdmg when you don’t crit

[astral tendon]

More crits from gear

[valid cradle]

You definetly do take the highest life drain set you can get

[solar python]

focusing on crit damage is definitely the future with Puncture getting another 10% crit rate from gm stacks

anytime you have to choose between crit rate and crit damage, crit damage is gonna be the play in like 80% of scenarios

[valid cradle]

You're taking it for the effect, not for the stats 🤔

[solar python]

Once we get 20 slots for cards we the stats are gonna be almost as important

[winged reef]

Besides puncture builds you don’t get extra crit so you need to rely on stats

[valid cradle]

Extra sets you do take for stats ofc

[solar python]

cards in general are gonna just be rng anyway

but sets for just stats are not gonna be that difficult to get

with 20 slots you can easily get like 500-600 crit damage which is huge

you get your AP, Drain and Onrush set

thats gonna put you at 8-10 card slots

10-12 slots just for sets basically

which is like 3-4 sets

[valid cradle]

The Winter Mane Detect set is also quite high cdmg

Nearly 200?

[mossy kite]

WTS EU

[astral tendon]

still selling 🧅 gear?

[mossy kite]

nah its mine

xd

in old bm

WTS EU

[astral tendon]

Perp for hs build next patch?

leg hs is probably better than dt

[hybrid willow]

[sweet gull]

any tips on this guys?

[spiral sky]

Trial and error

[azure moth]

how much the windshock ss chest worth now ?

[winged reef]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1346995148407570512/1390395380230918244/image.png?ex=68681a1a&is=6866c89a&hm=156f85f2e2561f4266d3d0b42c67932ea1d56b4248d3ed0a503660796d72e10e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1346995148407570512/1390395380516262031/image.png?ex=68681a1b&is=6866c89b&hm=7e4fde32a21d10da7b7f8e58ad0b80a82c3f533804eaad6b017628bf50e31337&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[spiral sky]

https://tenor.com/view/thorobr-rng-fire-elmo-gif-14506283

[winged reef]

19 more attempts and I’m guaranteed a legendary

[wooden rain]

iksanun

[wicked plank]

sooo how people farmin cards now cause damn kari is expensive

[solar python]

there is no 'farming' cards

at best you make alts and run them through cold storage

[winged reef]

Now’s the best time to get them with 2x

Just duo CS

[hidden pawn]

https://i.imgur.com/Mwg6f7h.png

https://i.imgur.com/5hWd0Hj.png

https://i.imgur.com/jhIzYz8.png

which one should i use card for

[solar python]

if you mean the yunma fei card, you probably just yeet it into skyhaven resistance, its the same 23 attack power but you get almost 150 cdamage
unless there is a set with yunma fei that has good drain level and cdamage that probably the best choice

[hidden pawn]

ye but im 1 card away from bloodshade drain

https://imgur.com/KLYxQM0

[solar python]

https://tenor.com/view/broke-fairlyoddparents-burning-money-gif-4486655

[shadow field]

who did this

[lethal dew]

is this na or eu 😭

[shadow field]

EU

[viscid seal]

Any1 on Fishbelly Pub that has some purple wind books for sale ? I can;t do the lightning anymore. I am unable to understand the rotation ....

or if can any1 please explain to me how to rotate my skills with lightning build ....

[shadow field]

if the guy who posted this wants to negotiate I'm here

[viscid seal]

a ?

@shadow field what i posted ?

[winged reef]

Are you a Blade Dancer? This is Blade Master channel

[viscid seal]

ah dam :))) wrong Blade sry

[astral tendon]

Solo poh maybe

[wooden rain]

Average neo player

[astral tendon]

got 2 cards yesterday

[hidden pawn]

I looked at bd channel yesterday was facepalming so hard

All they do is complain about how weak bd is and why all other classes getting buffed but them

[astral tendon]

Wait

Bd is doing this?

[hidden pawn]

Ye was in bd channel

Was like wtf u guys on about

[astral tendon]

lol in what world bd has the audacity to complain about other class being op

[hidden pawn]

None thats why i was so confused

I was like top dps complaining only in neo will u find that sht haha

[astral tendon]

Even lightning bd

Is by no means weak

[hidden pawn]

The winds were complaining more haha

[astral tendon]

And wind is basically the best class by 10 miles compared to to everyone else

[hidden pawn]

Because most top wb dps were lightning

Was like huh?

[astral tendon]

I mean , they are surely not in moonwater

[hidden pawn]

No idea regardless wat server bd have no right to complain

[astral tendon]

Half baked wind bd can out dps lightning bd with max out gear

[hidden pawn]

Ye idk maybe they all high or something i was just shocked to see it

[astral tendon]

lightning bd deals way more than lightning bm which is a build actually have right to complain

[winged reef]

I always do more than lightning bds unless they have better gear than me

But maybe I’m too good

[wooden rain]

It makes perfect sense to me

You don't want to talk about your class being op, you might catch the attention of someone who can nerf it

Not that anyone reads here

[azure moth]

WTS NA

[solar python]

I guess people are leaving the game again already, last week I was like 30-34

[winged reef]

Nana on a bad day

[astral tendon]

that’s how 💩 dt is

Tho the boss on this channel did run for a bit

It use to not matter but now it is lol

[grizzled gale]

I overslept a bit came late, saw the boss playing perma fidget spinner and said nah into alt f4

[solar python]

Puncture is just better on Ancient Dragon and Sacred Longui imo, Meganura is way more favored for DT

Meganura you can't really block anything for cyclone or you risk getting CCd

[astral tendon]

dragon is fine cos it doesn’t spin

[gilded thistle]

[winged reef]

Whale

[gilded thistle]

[astral tendon]

god

the rank 2 share is so bad

[gilded thistle]

[astral tendon]

[gilded thistle]

not that 1 is any better

nowdays

[finite ridge]

guys, how can DT + SS damage more than DT+ES+SS ?? >.< i tried all the sulotions and youtube videos xD when ever i compare i can see a huge diffrent DT+SS is higher by far

[coarse sun]

whats a reasonable price for a decent hexwood sword on eu f5 please?

[solar python]

depends on your definitons of reasonable and decent

[coarse sun]

i guess 1 good stat line and a decent ish roll

theres one with 103 cd for 3.2k

doesnt seem amazing

[solar python]

103 cd is not that great

but the ones with higher stats will likely be double stated from upgrading from true siren

I'd say 2-3k for one crit line and 3 mantra and you have a good deal

crit damage closer to 3k

crit rate closer to 2k

[coarse sun]

hm ok ty

and its def not worth to upgrade from true siren right

its like 10k gems just in gold on average

[solar python]

that depends on the true siren sword

[coarse sun]

mine is 120 cd 83 acc so not rubbish but not amazing

[solar python]

3 mantra?

[coarse sun]

0

[solar python]

definitely not

mantra is quite important

[astral tendon]

never upgrade anything without 3 mantra

no matter how amazing the stats look

[coarse sun]

okey dokey

ty

[valid cradle]

Dont think it really makes sense for like 95+% of players

[winged reef]

@fallow wind I’m the other guy lol

[loud hinge]

Will attributes make big jump from true siren to hex for sure?
If they do, i’d rather yolo than getting a hex. My siren sword cr/cd are 116/134 2 mantras, augment is nearly max.
As a f2p, i don’t want to waste couple thousand gems just to get 1 more mantra slot

[winged reef]

Mine made a decent jump

But I doubt it’s guaranteed

[loud hinge]

I just failed 2nd attempt last night. Gathering ascent stone for the 3rd

And if it didn’t make a decent jump. I’d uninstall the game

[sweet gull]

Is puncture even doable on 90ping? I keep trying but the macro just dont wanna xD anyone can help?

[vivid robin]

tab price rn

[silver moth]

Any news?

[wooden rain]

On what

[winged reef]

Day 135 of Neo, still no news on lightning buff. Over.

Will keep you posted tomorrow

[silver moth]

Every wednesday, i go to yast and hope

Then go back to sleep

[winged reef]

SoonTM for sure

[honest timber]

lightning buff tomorrowTM

[astral tendon]

Probably never

[solar python]

especially with HS and Puncture getting legendary skills, that make even more viable builds for BM

when BM already has the most builds in the game

[silver moth]

I think kfm has more than bm

[solar python]

its just wind and fire afaik

and a variation where you stack comet strike?

[winged reef]

What if you stack blue buffs

Mega blue buff?

[solar python]

BM has Lightning, Fire, Hybrid Fire, Puncture, Pierce, Heavenly slasher

Even if you combine hybrid and fire or puncture and pierce, its still more than KFM I think

[fathom eagle]

Buy Blue Puncture / Devourer's Core / Siren Weapon With rly High CR ou CD 3 Mantra.

[somber kiln]

Think that just reduces the cd

[wooden rain]

That's just wind

Some people stack full ck because having one more skill is too much for their brain i guess

Afaik it's not better damage, although legendary ck might have messed that up

[gilded thistle]

[silver moth]

Well, i see many kfm play different style

[winged reef]

Pierce isnt real it cant hurt you

[silver moth]

I even see a guy stack lb deal bonus dmg on searing palm

[astral tendon]

With the release of leg puncture, now bm only has 1 build

we basically have 1 viable build with 3 build in the 🗑️

[silver moth]

And another guy who has dmg chart look like a cake

[wooden rain]

You can stack any skill you want, doesn't mean it's a good build

It should be at least comparable damage to best builds

[silver moth]

At least it still work with low bundle

[astral tendon]

Kfm kind of works with some blue books and random skill stacking

you can’t replicate that on other class

Well maybe fm with the dumb wicked twin dragon stacking thing

[winged reef]

I saw my favourite legendary DT user in MSP last night

[astral tendon]

Getting shafted by the lv60 mobs?

[winged reef]

Not sure I only stopped by for a second, was gonna say hi to you but time was ticking

[solar python]

Those level 60 mobs fcking crank its unreal

Doing msp solo on a ranged class must be fcking easy though

[astral tendon]

Broken class get 500k per 30 mins

Useless dt only get 300k

[winged reef]

I’m happy with my daily 80k I only have 120%

[solar python]

Even the small mobs hit me for like 8-9k with their autoattacks and I got like 70k hp

[lethal prairie]

imagine being bd just aoe it all down

[odd dagger]

Slasher's way

[astral tendon]

Tbf

I wonder how good hs will be in msp

10 hs is probably only 30k or something

should I give it a go

Is the breeze bug still there btw

[solar python]

If you can consistently aoe its probably good

last HS user I saw had purple breeze so probably

[astral tendon]

Someone said it was fixed with msp patch

Cos is aoe without bd buff requirement

Probably better then lightning

[solar python]

In my opinion puncture is probably the best for msp unless HS can pull some crazy numbers

[loud hinge]

I’m too. I have 110%. Hybrid ES - DT. 4 lv60 mobs/min and obtain 943 xp/ea. Sometimes get some extra 10k(s) from the big boys

[astral tendon]

Y probably need to roll for exp, big boi gives me 22k almost 23

[winged reef]

I do 2 reroll attempts every day

[loud hinge]

I’ve tried to roll. Cost me 30g and bunch of mats for nothing

[winged reef]

Thats my quota

Been failing for the past week

Gg

[loud hinge]

Idk, my char is jinxed or what. Bad luck on most of things

[silver moth]

breeze bug still there

[winged reef]

New “pb” today. 105k xp with 120% only

In msp

[shadow field]

anyone have a puncture macro for 25ms on ahk ? I struggle a bit with my timings

[wind timber]

try this

[shadow field]

got this on dummy focus recovery idk if its good or not

[shadow field]

ty

[shadow field]

i think its perfect 121-121 in a min

[wind timber]

Say thank you to @spiral sky

[shadow field]

@spiral sky thx m8

[solar python]

If I am doing just over 20k dps on hae mujin without defense down or focus pin how far away would you say I am away from being able to do tree

[gilded thistle]

[wind timber]

Depends on accuracy and crits

Tree is very heavy underleveled cuz <50% crit is not what you can take

Same for evades

You need like 1800 on 56 to not miss

And crit is well

[solar python]

2.5k cd

[loud hinge]

Hold a solid dps at 26-28k on Hae. Then you’re good to get carried

[solar python]

I was thinking about getting accu cd gloves and bracelet

[winged reef]

If people were doing 28k-30k on Hae to do Tree 4m then around 25k should be enough for 6m

[wind timber]

Well, ap for "style", so people would actually bring you along
And def accuracy

You would miss like crazy

[winged reef]

Use detect to even it out

[solar python]

my card sets are dog sht

[wind timber]

Detect is poop

It has inner cd

[gilded thistle]

Depending on what misses it's gonna be bad for punture

[wind timber]

Yeah

[solar python]

I think this is the best I have atm

[gilded thistle]

Ey your insignia look better than mine

[solar python]

Insignias and Card sets are just so hard bottle necked for new players

[winged reef]

Mine aren't that much better

[solar python]

special insignias are rough

rng weekly limit

card sets are my weakest point though atm

3/4 sets don't have good stats

and are not that great in terms of level either

[wind timber]

[solar python]

bruh wtf

thats some crazy insignias

[winged reef]

I got many to fuse but that’s a gold sink

Focusing on gear first while waiting for cost reduction

[gilded thistle]

Same

I've neglected insignia quite a bit

[wind timber]

I mean it was way cheaper than to buy leggies at that time

And it's 100% accurate ap upgrade

Not a f ing rng poop

[winged reef]

Around 50g for 1-2 ap extra

[gilded thistle]

Need to ascend my necklace

then i maybe work on insignia

[wind timber]

I mean i was only upgrading reds and specials

That's all

[gilded thistle]

or just wait for the account wide insignia and buy 4 poharan sets

[wind timber]

They gives you the most

[wind timber]

[gilded thistle]

[wind timber]

bro your belt is too good

gift me

[gilded thistle]

That belt was originarly with accuracy, took 90+ essense to roll crit rate

then the one tap

went YUGE

[wind timber]

ik

[gilded thistle]

[winged reef]

I dropped this might replace my current one. Only big plus is an extra mantra slot and 20 more crit

So maybe I won’t

[gilded thistle]

Hmm

Yours is awakened though right?

[spiral sky]

[winged reef]

Yea atm, crit + acc because I can’t roll a crit accuracy roll on my psyches

Otherwise my acc would be too low

[loud hinge]

Advice pls guys. I’m really unpleased with my bracelet. There is an awakened bracelet with 109cr/cr*p stat is listed for 1k8 on NA. What is the best offer for it?

[gilded thistle]

Is it with 3 mantras?

[astral tendon]

bye lab

tree is infinitely better lol

[loud hinge]

Yes it is

[honest haven]

https://i.imgur.com/4CfI45E.png golden pig box to the right, nice msp run

[hidden pawn]

https://i.imgur.com/cZVT927.png

not bad drop from tree

[spiral sky]

Dead game

No yapping

[loud hinge]

i got a little luck at fusing, i guess. Not bad for a f2p, aint it?

[wind timber]

You talking like i'm a whale xd

Yeah, pretty good ones

THo i would prefer ap on specials over anything

(if you have them ofc)

[loud hinge]

21 ap on each one

that's a lot

[wind timber]

Yeah, but i mean even gray/greens are better than cdmg or smth

[loud hinge]

but 169 cd is pretty much too

[loud hinge]

you would prefer 42 ap over 338 cd?

[wind timber]

Yeah for sure

[silk beacon]

nice lvl 58 reward...

im dt hybrid Q_Q

[wind timber]

[grizzled gale]

puncture is calling you

[silk beacon]

i will have 0 fun with that build

and no ccs

i dont want that

[odd dagger]

still works

[winged reef]

There were Raid purple books from 999-1.2k gems the other day but I couldnt afford them and now they are all gone Sadge

[honest haven]

pretty sure mushin tower disconnects / ping spikes are related to weapon skins now after some testing

gonna play without em going forward

in case anyone had similar issues

I've ran it on 3 characters daily, when they had weapon skins they all dced at least once or several times in a row over the past week+, since removing one at a time they stopped dcing

[astral tendon]

I bought them and failed another leg book attempt lol

1/43

[winged reef]

Wasted books for whales smh classic

7 more attempts to quit

[solar python]

does Korea have a better legendary transmute than what we have?

what are the chances though

let me guess, 2.5k gems?

[solar python]

how is that not the box we got now

people would go mental over that with the shortage of books

NCSoft

[astral tendon]

how many ppl can afford it

expected book is worse than buy blue book and gamble

[solar python]

gold in surplus? how?

[fallow wind]

good start for swapping , hybird DT useless build

[astral tendon]

Anything involve dt is a useless build

[solar python]

I can taste top 10 next weekend

[gilded thistle]

Almost there!!

[hybrid willow]

you know if we can up a ss soul badge into new one in silverfrost ? ask because no ss badge in silverfrost

[astral tendon]

No idea

Why do you want the ss badge anyway

[hybrid willow]

have a +8 one

[astral tendon]

If you stick to dt

[wind timber]

Can you show whole top 10?

[solar python]

dont have a ss of full top 10

[wind timber]

F

[gilded thistle]

[wind timber]

[wooden rain]

Can't wait for another "incident" that causes a ban wave, "i only rmt'd" won't get people unbanned anymore

[slim mortar]

yall still use RT as macro for hybrid? es dt

[fallow wind]

its TR not RT

[slim mortar]

ty:)

[astral tendon]

Not gonna stop you from waiting for that lol. Good luck with it

[wooden rain]

No luck needed, only time

Ncsoft will come up with something

[astral tendon]

i doubt they have to do anything

with the supply now, the only perks of rmt is being able to use it in f5 directly lol

[solar python]

I can't wait to see Neo launch on epicgames store

[gilded thistle]

Time for 4 more BMs

[astral tendon]

also the pending gem can be used in f10

[gilded thistle]

That pending thing is so bad

[astral tendon]

so i guess the only point of puting that pending 💩 in there is when ncamerica support are going high with there weekend, even if some one charged back at least is only 1 account

[winged reef]

When I needed 300 more gems for a purple skill I would have paid 5€ to get it but because of the pending gems I don’t even bother

Their loss

[solar python]

Yeah, just buy fckloads of ncoin, turn it into gold and launder that gold back into gems and chargeback

[astral tendon]

well direct chargeback will be permaed if they can prove it

[gilded thistle]

Also for some reason it won't complete a transaction with either my paypal or credit card

so

[solar python]

after couple days sure

[gilded thistle]

Ncoin cards ftw

[solar python]

wtf is an ncoin card

[gilded thistle]

Like a gift card

[astral tendon]

basically nc gift card

[winged reef]

dub roll

[gilded thistle]

I got one aswell a few minutes ago on weapon

[astral tendon]

meanwhile this is what i get

absoultely useless

[gilded thistle]

kinda low but it is what it is

[winged reef]

Also 1 tapped weapon to True

[solar python]

now save up and sell this one to buy a worldboss weapon

[gilded thistle]

Unless you plan to upgrade it's not worth it

With current prices you need 160k ish to awaken it

[winged reef]

Idk how much this one would sell for

Plus the mantras are too good I don’t want to lose it

[slim oracle]

sadly failed mine 2 x times and now I need to wait for another duct stone... : (

[gilded thistle]

I stopped trying to Ascend mine at 5 fails

[winged reef]

I have lots of them because I’ve been buying 1 every week since 45 patch

[slim oracle]

yeah I dont thought i would be that fast on true uprade so I missed that 😄

[slender kelp]

i've only been lurking here on occasion but haven't seen bdx yapping in a long time

did he finally leave us

[gilded thistle]

I think he left yeah

[slender kelp]

always believed he'd be the last one here 😔

[winged reef]

Hexy left too, tragic

[gilded thistle]

[wind timber]

[gilded thistle]

We've lost a lot of people

but can you blame them?

[winged reef]

Silverfrost will bring everyone back

[gilded thistle]

I spent 100 blessing and got 0 ascend stones today

[winged reef]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[gilded thistle]

[astral tendon]

that is too much copium

[slim oracle]

Could u guys give me an honest advice, cause i am feeling a bit in a build crisis with dt atm ... should I just stick with it or reroll untill the effort is to high? atm at 20 stacks purple dt.. ss, etc.. I dont know

[slender kelp]

also, nanaya got unbanned?

i've missed major lore drops in this channel

[gilded thistle]

Indeed

[winged reef]

Nanaya got unbanned and back on wb #1 and Onion quit

Thats about it

[astral tendon]

if Shinx didnt sell all his puncture id probably be puncture now

[gilded thistle]

[astral tendon]

by that i mean Onion's puncture

[gilded thistle]

Oh he had more?

okay safe

[gilded thistle]

[slender kelp]

hope that Hungbu's keeping himself hydrated damn

[gilded thistle]

[wooden rain]

that's 95g you could have put towards 10% discount

so you can fail more efficiently

[winged reef]

That means for every 10 fails you can fail 1 extra time

[gilded thistle]

2 so far on it

hmm

Its the last one to ascend, then we start saving stones for silverfrost

[solar python]

you can ascend any legendary pieces? no matter how upgraded they are?

I guess that means true +4, awakened +2 and otherwise the base item?

[winged reef]

I still need legendary earing necklace and belt

I might ascend my belt tho

[solar python]

I just checked asura loot and that loot table is crazy

actually gives some decent amount of loot

[winged reef]

Still 0.09 for legendary book

But should be doable day 1

I think it’s only a purple dungeon too

[solar python]

50% chance for hongmoon essence
38% chance for ascent stones
5% chance for windshock
6% chance for blue skill book
and all of these are independent

[winged reef]

20k dps requirement

If you can clear exile now you can do Asura

[solar python]

yeah its a level 58 boss and everyone who tries is gonna go into silverfrost with level 60

55-60 is like 5.5 weeks of grind so I'll be 60 like 2 weeks into august which should probably be 1.5 months away from silverfrost

gotta find a guild in a bit once I am able to do legendary dungeons

[winged reef]

Silverfrost is probably early September

[solar python]

I think its gonna be mid to late september but we shall see

[coarse sun]

im lvl 55 with 1500 accuracy and it takes about 30 seconds to kill the lvl 60 axe guys in MSP - is that about right or am i doing something wrong?

[loud hinge]

i'm officially broke. 4 taps to awakened & 1 tap to true
i gave up to upgrade to hex on my siren after 3rd failure.

[winged reef]

Nice gg at least you got it

[winged reef]

Sounds fine. Depends on gear too. You do a lot less because of less crit and missing. I’d probably do 57 until you hit 56-57 unless you are duoing

[astral tendon]

Neo will probably reach that one day

Tbf, there is already sign for it

[placid flicker]

fire

[winged reef]

The guy that does 76k on Tempest Lord probably does like 150k on dummy in 4 months of game release which is record time

[twin lark]

How to get this on neo? i can't take a pic of my char to use it as preset later

[winged reef]

There’s a save appearance button on the gallery window if thats what you mean

Then you can use it in character selection

[twin lark]

Yeah i forgot

[twin lark]

I thought this was +6 per second but it's +6 for the entire 3 secs

It's good but not as good as i thought

[winged reef]

Yea but you also get 5 straight away so it’s still 11 total

[twin lark]

Help

[twin lark]

True

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/betty-white-golden-girls-hands-gif-24420157

[honest haven]

🫃

[upbeat fossil]

https://i.imgur.com/gnR3r1n.png

[static yoke]

I still miss even at lv60 with 2k acc

[winged reef]

https://www.youtube.com/live/-NQHwhg8Jxw?si=omCxiTsy4zd_c3Pe
Player 2 is lightning poggers

It’s okay they are all dying

Far from having enough dps for blue dungeon

Yea idk if these are new players or new server

Guy doesnt stop yapping smh

[solar python]

story gets you to level 50 so bots can get 100 gold and sell

[winged reef]

I’m doing the same on my alt

Except I’m playing myself

And hating myself

[solar python]

they quit

[spiral sky]

Leg helix infinite 🐲

[winged reef]

How much ap is lvl 58

[astral tendon]

maybe i can tell you later

[honest haven]

Don’t keep us hanging

Show the bound take flight already

[wind timber]

I lvled like a week ago

I got multislash

[valid cradle]

Think the rest of the levels are 14 too

[honest haven]

🫠

[winged reef]

Aka 15 right cause you always get 1 extra

[valid cradle]

Nope

[wind timber]

Why

[astral tendon]

if i gvet puncture from lv58 box

ill start to hard buy puncture i guess

[winged reef]

I swear I’ve always gotten 1 extra ap when leveling

Cause the math never checks out

Could be wrong tho

[wind timber]

Def wrong

It's always checks out for me

[winged reef]

Can’t wait to see what I get when I lvl today tho

Betting on a 3rd bound Flash Step

[honest haven]

🙏 I’m like a week away myself

I got a freaking pvp dragon helix on my shadow wl I'm bound for some good luck

[honest haven]

would it be much of a dps increase now pre leg puncture?

I heard it doesnt scale as well with stacks but idk

[astral tendon]

well its going to be about the same

but less prone to mistake

[honest haven]

whew even the only leggy dt is abandoning it

[astral tendon]

is 💩

[honest haven]

writings on the wall as well ig haha

shoutout that one dude who convinced me to stick with hybrid my last selector instead of punc

[grizzled gale]

[gilded thistle]

[astral tendon]

gg

is not the time to hard buy puncture

[solar python]

You should probably just go puncture with blue puncture stacks

and sell dts before they lose more value

[winged reef]

At this rate we’ll have 50 bound books to salvage once you can salvage bound books

[loud hinge]

i got 2 of them from devs

[astral tendon]

i also have 2 lol

fck this game

cant even salvage

[loud hinge]

worse than trash

[gilded thistle]

peak

ready for pvp set

[winged reef]

2026 will be the year for neo pvp

[gilded thistle]

Surely

[winged reef]

50 Misty Wood boxes

[winged reef]

I was 991ap leveled up and gained 14ap but now I have 1006 so you always gain 1 extra base

[gilded thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/finished-elijah-wood-lord-of-the-rings-lava-fire-gif-5894611

[winged reef]

Gz you finally got the hair

[gilded thistle]

+10k dps just from the hair

[astral tendon]

guess so

i think i also +15 instead of 14

1189 - 1204

[wind timber]

I guess i was wrong idk

[astral tendon]

Nah the level up message shows 14 I think

[gilded thistle]

[solar python]

I got like 50k more than yesterday, some accuracy insignias and using drain charms really makes you kill them a lot faster. Sustaining without practically any drain was nearly impossible but that 305 drain from moonwater charms is kinda huge.

lvl 55 215%

[winged reef]

Fissure from hitting lvl 58. Too bad it’s useless for me now

[loud hinge]

215%. That’s my dreamed xp set

[solar python]

its not that hard to get at least close to 200

[wind timber]

It is

[solar python]

idk I don't think I was particularly lucky and I got to more than 200 in less than 2 weeks

[loud hinge]

Bro, 60g + 180 mats had gone. Mine is at 115%

[solar python]

the only thing I kinda lucked out on is the badges where I got 2 10% without needing to reroll them but those are the easiest for sure

everything else was 10+ tries to get 5 or 10

[loud hinge]

How many attempts u did (If you count) to have that 215% xp set

[solar python]

idk hard to say I just pumped everything into acc exp for like 2 weeks

maybe 2.5 weeks

lets say 16 days with 14 ish tries a day and 5 tries per week

like ~240 tries?

that feels like its about right

I started playing after steam launch so exp was the main thing I need since I am still behind

I am gonna barely be level 56 on tuesday I think

[winged reef]

How much does the Pirate Outfit usually sell for

[astral tendon]

no idea, like less than 1k ish or something? but that was line a long long time ago

[winged reef]

Did you buy those cheap TDSs lol

[astral tendon]

I didn’t gamble for a while

By a while a mean a day

So if they not there today it was not me

[slender kelp]

not a true gambler at heart 🥀

[winged reef]

I was gonna buy the cheap for 1000 but nothing sells because dead game

[astral tendon]

Market is pretty dead

[slender kelp]

is anything still alive

[astral tendon]

daily player count from cinder + mw is probably around 7-800 ppl

From unreliable source

After my ‘break’ I found even in mw the team on f7 is a lot less compare to 2 weeks ago

[slender kelp]

the more i think back, the more surprised i am at how long i put up with the game

[vivid robin]

@solar python if you can reach 25k comf on mujin u can go tree, so long as the group isnt bad

just learn mechs the first run or beforehand or ppl won't be happy

[somber kiln]

Hey guys

any pure fire enjoyers? i got a question

[silver moth]

go on, my fen

[silk beacon]

i never see it on market q_q

used to wear it for years on live

[vivid robin]

hybrid but nothing complex about pure fire, sup?

[twin lark]

Hour glass time gets saved for tomorrow?

like tomorrow i'll have 1 hour?

[somber kiln]

ye

[somber kiln]

how often do you use your V

off cd?

[twin lark]

ty

[vivid robin]

nah, it's not worth coming out of your rotation to v

its a DPS loss

[somber kiln]

ahhhhhhhhh

[vivid robin]

yeah, and starting off, besides that, not important

[somber kiln]

i see

been refreshing it same time as my core

but ig thats an even bigger downtime

[vivid robin]

the only thing that's ig, important

is using meteor strike, regularly, animation cancelling it with tab

like every 3 sunstrokes it should be off cd depending on your ping

[somber kiln]

ah well i didnt get meteor strike, i just stacked more DTs

[vivid robin]

yea maintaining heat through searing/meteor is pretty important

since meteor is in basic, ideally you wanna e into x into tab, every 3 rotations ish

but that's min maxing with meteor

@astral tendon you put meteor into your rotation after the patch right?

[wooden rain]

Meteor wasn't really a notable increase from what i saw

[lethal prairie]

it scales the more dt stacks you have so for gnana its the highest increase from all of us

[astral tendon]

Is definitely more noticeable compared to another dt

[honest haven]

I usually X E TAB to get the crit dmg bonus

[vivid robin]

crit dmg bonus? from what :o

[honest haven]

draw stance

[vivid robin]

you get that from just being in draw stance tho right? why (e)? that puts you in basic

[astral tendon]

he probably means x q tab

[honest haven]

oh sry Q

[astral tendon]

so the tab has the crit damage bonus

minimal gain

[vivid robin]

oh hi nanaya