except the big melee ones that u can pull with z or sth
#Blade Master
odd dagger
twin lark
I wish punct was aoe, can't pull them all cause they'd kill me
Unless you're giga whale
twin lark
If i had 260% exp boost, that's like 4.5k exp per kill if i'm not wrong. If i get that much exp and keep killing that mob every 10 secs, that's 27k exp per minute. 675k exp every 25 mins cause it takes a while to find a good place to farm
grizzled gale
pretty sure that math is wrong
grizzled gale
should be around 2.5k per kill at 280% assuming you're killing the tankier ones
gilded thistle
twin lark
This is with 145%
digital nest
afaik the big guys give roughly 845 exp without any additional exp%
so 260% would be 2.2k
twin lark
So around 396 every 30 mins
digital nest
i also doubt that it takes 10s to kill one mob, including traveltime between mobs, but that might just be me, being ep-sin and therefore absolute trash at this type of content
digital nest
ya, like i said, cries in ep-sin
every single mob needs setup in some shape or form
twin lark
Let's say it takes me 5 more secs to get to the next mob, still good exp
lethal prairie
245 i get 2.1k from the tanky ones
solar python
This is with 145%
its kinda r*tarded how the exp doubles from the mob types, like its stupid to not go kill the 60s
I think even on my level 53 it would be worth killing the 60s and I would not consider my gear good
especially my accuracy is kinda ass
the exp you get from msp basically goes up exponentially so it increases the gap between whales and non whales even further with level cap removal
valid cradle
Yeah I dont really like the implications of this
Also kinda feel like there isnt much of a reason to play after youve rushed yourself to max level
static yoke
Rush to max level so can skip field boss ritual and faction quest, more rest time
placid flicker
I think even on my level 53 it would be worth killing the 60s and I would not co...
i started after maint, almost 47, 13k dps playing dt, whats my best way to level up 
is it to just try killing the mid 50s msp mobs?
cause theres no way i can kill the 60s
solar python
if you just mean msp
best way would be to sneak into a group and leech exp
I think MSP is really bad experience until you hit like level 55 with good accuracy
'bad' as compared to what you get after that point
placid flicker
ye makes sense
also did they change blindslide in neo
it feels awful
like sometimes ill just be out of range
wooden rain
Same as always has been for me
If you're out of range for it then you're out of range for attacks as well
charred stratus
whos the crazy one ?
gilded thistle
Probably the same guy with the crazy wind sever prices
Shame, and i was thinking about rolling a hatta hatta alt but yeah, crazy prices
solar python
I think its kinda the same on all the classes
there is just a massive shortage of purple books on the market after the exploit
exploit and whales wanting to roll for legendary books just completely wiped out the market
I see books timing out everyday with ridiculous prices because everyone is trying to scam everyone
gilded thistle
Except the warlocks (because new flavor) the rest of the classes know the price range of their books so i doubt anyone overpays
solar python
I get putting books up for like 2-3k over what most would consider normal value, if its the only book on market, but just adding like 10k is just r*tarded
gilded thistle
2-3k due to lack of supply is okay i guess but yeah 10k+ is 
winged reef
I saw some purple books yesterday for 1.2k-1.4k on BM
solar python
yeah trash purple books are really cheap because most of the whales that were gonna try for legendary books are probably done by now
blue books in comparison are still fairly expensive
on average you need 25 blue books for one random purple box and that is like 4k gems
so you get 4 blue books back on average that like 600 gems, one purple box costs roughly 3.4k gems but most trash purple which is like 75% of the books sell for 1.4-1.6k
and the chances for a main book that is actually worth a lot is 2/37 for bm with only DT and Puncture being seriously highly valued
and I'd say 5-7 out of those 37 would be considered breaking even
somber kiln
Im 0/7 so far on purple transmute 🥲
solar python
the system is just bad, you need so many resources to even be able to on average get a single good book, which is not even guaranteed
there should be like a 20 transmute pity and then you get a bound selector
gilded thistle
Well, with the bp change they did for the selector i doubt they will ever implement something like that
solar python
yeah I am just coping
solar python
it would incentivize spending a lot giving people some guarantee for their money
but alas
NCSoft continues being allergic to money
fallow wind
whos the crazy one ?
-5 gold
astral tendon
Odds are bs in this game
I’m 1/42 for leg book, Emarell is on like 6/50 or something
There are also ppl on 2/6 
lethal prairie
@rain horizon what were your odds again 3 in 21? 
twin lark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rIy0xY99a0
rain horizon
<@140604220880453632> what were your odds again 3 in 21? <:kekw:8568881684299121...
27 tries now
twin lark
I'm hot af 🔥
wooden rain
twin lark
Haters gonna hate
twin lark
Out of curiosity. Are we getting new dungeons next month? Please say no
valid cradle
I could see them releasing the shadowmoor
A bunch of stuff from it is already ingame
solar python
definitely getting shadowmoor at the end of the bp
wind timber
For sure shadowmoor next update
spiral sky
Shadowmoor soul core already in
spiral sky
I guarantee that the dg will come with new bp
wind timber
Also the cards are here too
solar python
NEW BATTLE PASS
NO TASKS
PAY OR F*CK OFF
NO PURPLE SELECTOR
ACTUALLY NO REWARDS
JUST THE REMOTE VAULT
NOT EVEN MORE THAN 5 MARKET PLACE SLOTS
wind timber
NEW BATTLE PASS
NO TASKS
PAY OR F*CK OFF
NO PURPLE SELECTOR
ACTUALLY NO REWARDS
...
The remote vault that ends b4 the bp does
solar python
10 hour maintenance*
spiral sky
On shadowmoor entrance
valid cradle
50% hongmoon essence is very good 🤔
wind timber
Ye and it's separate drop now
solar python
is shadowmoor another legendary dungeon?
loud hinge
NEW BATTLE PASS
NO TASKS
PAY OR F*CK OFF
NO PURPLE SELECTOR
ACTUALLY NO REWARDS
...
Purple selection will be rewarded after you reached lv30 bp
wind timber
is shadowmoor another legendary dungeon?
Yea
loud hinge
Via coupon
twin lark
NEW BATTLE PASS
NO TASKS
PAY OR F*CK OFF
NO PURPLE SELECTOR
ACTUALLY NO REWARDS
...
So live's premium
wooden rain
Purple selection will be rewarded after you reached lv30 bp
he's making a joke about the next bp
twin lark
To change no to yes
They also need that time to add new bugs, very important
loud hinge
Guys? What is the odd to obtain hongmoon essence & ascent stone from spinning?
twin lark
It's easier to learn how to fly
upbeat fossil
you know how in hunger games they said "may the odds be ever in your favor"? well NC took an offense to that
honest timber
from the wheel?
winged reef
Where’s the entrance to Shadowmoor?
honest timber
6% I think
winged reef
We don’t have Dasari Palace so idk where the entrance
spiral sky
spiral sky
We don’t have Dasari Palace so idk where the entrance
Close to meganura
Something
The WB
winged reef
In Sapphire Basin?
I remember there being a closed entrance in Sentinel Coast, idk if it’s there in live
upbeat fossil
what do cyclone (lmb) and lunar slash combo go for these days?
solar python
lunar slash like 13-15k and cyclone is like 6-8k
upbeat fossil
vivid robin
<:deadge:1011247250917310555>
spiral sky
1,5k
twin lark
It's something
spiral sky
lunar slash like 13-15k and cyclone is like 6-8k
What, cyclone was like 3-4k lunar got 2 for 9k yesterday
solar python
idk that is the prices I have seen on the market
there was one lunar that was listed for 15k and one cyclone for 9k and it seems both of them got bought
honest timber
I got cyclone for 5k
solar python
I am just missing soaring falcon and cyclone but those are really in demand atm
not having cyclone feels like a big oof ngl considering how strong it is
gilded thistle
I think anyone would buy the 4k one just to middle finger that guy that undecuts by 1 gem
upbeat fossil
trying to sell all my non-bound draw stance skills so i can swap to puncture. im guessing im overpricing stuff a bit cus none are selling 
solar python
the people who are already invested into DT seem to stay DT and only very few people are actually swapping
wooden rain
I think anyone would buy the 4k one just to middle finger that guy that undecuts...
always
somber kiln
the people who are already invested into DT seem to stay DT and only very few pe...
Yeah im sticking with DT
Missing a lot of damage but eh
Pure fire too 
solar python
only problem with Puncture is that it requires a lot of support skills compared to DT
upbeat fossil
i was kinda in between since already had so many bound purples and blues for DT build, but i know i would regret it later if i took one more dt from bound skillbook
solar python
tbh
lethal dew
Pure fire too <:bns_phew:1198525066925842552>
No way u still on the pure fire
solar python
I don't think swapping is the best choice either
KR is actively developed compared to ours
so in 1-2 weeks DT might get giga gm stack bonus'
its just stupid how hard you are locked into one playstyle
upbeat fossil
it's always a possibility ye, maybe it was more of a wanting a change of playstyle than anything other
solar python
I think you should be able to exchange a DT book for a Puncture book for a price
like you can reroll legendaries but for purples you can reroll to selector for X gold
upbeat fossil
surely they will implement a system to trade in bound books back to selectables for a price 
solar python
I'd wager most onrush sets are worth more than the little bit of stats you get from Dark Scholar, if you play Puncture
but in a month you want dark scholar anyway when we likely get 20 card set limit
fallow wind
Ok ty
silver moth
Pure fire is the reason i play again 
I will happy if they buff lightning too
Just need make it more playable
winged reef
Just need Stone Slash. Just get it dude
somber kiln
No way u still on the pure fire
I mean
It isnt hindering me much lol
Its fine and i hear it works best for my kinda ping
somber kiln
Pure fire is the reason i play again <:pepposad:1165622806822781009>
Same lol
Macroing isnt my favourite thing to do
Eats up input for quick iframes
wooden rain
Its fine and i hear it works best for my kinda ping
Fire is not ping friendly
wooden rain
Pure fire is the reason i play again <:pepposad:1165622806822781009>
You play fire for enjoyment?
solar python
so do we have any idea how gm stacks work now in KR?
cause it sure doesn't look like books are the only way to get them
last screenshot I saw I tried to calculate it with 12 from legendary book and there was like 100 gm missing from the total
winged reef
Probably had purple books too
solar python
it was some FM with like 256 stacks on ice rain
and his books only counted to like 156
somber kiln
Probably some other multiplier
solar python
thats disgusting
solar python
how much do you even have to fuse purples to get a pity box?
gilded thistle
5% per fuse
solar python
damn so 100 purple cards?
winged reef
Per purple fuse right
solar python
oof
grizzled gale
we got it boys
congrats 
solar python
fusing cards and insignias is just an insane gold sink
grizzled gale
you're free 
winged reef
I only fuse insignias when I have 3 or 2 of the same
Cards only blues
Got millions of greens
wooden rain
you're free <a:yay:587696081916133377>
Chifu used his freedom to walk straight back into prison
solar python
yeah I need to start levelling my alts so I can do mushins tower but I am pretty burned out ngl
winged reef
If my mushin run on BM takes longer than 6 minutes I’m already bored
Couldn’t imagine running it on alt
solar python
fresh BM mushin tower with just sh*tty gear and blue lunar takes like 14 minutes
wooden rain
fresh BM mushin tower with just sh*tty gear and blue lunar takes like 14 minutes
Nah trash gear is 11-12
And lv45
solar python
if you really try sure
astral tendon
20 mins with 460 ap
gilded thistle
<:ayo:796796432488333332>
winged reef
If you buy a timestream chest from the vendor
Is the weapon guaranteed to be perfect like the WB drop
winged reef
Oh right
solar python
not guaranteed 3 mantra or high stats though those are rng
I think its 50/50 2 or 3 mantra
guaranteed double crit though
winged reef
The stats on the upgrade are crazy
Maybe if someone accidentally sells the stones for cheap by misclick I will get one 
solar python
worldboss weapon is only worth for prestige and not wanting to deal with hexwood
I don't think I have seen anyone have more than just the base weapon
winged reef
I mean you can technically get those stats elsewhere
wind timber
We have plenty of whales with awake weap
winged reef
I’d rather have a legendary skill than wb weapon
wind timber
winged reef
Even NCsoft isn’t that insane yet
solar python
its kinda crazy that this weapon is in the game and its twice as much as the non worldboss one
winged reef
Need one more muhsin now
Free Lab carry after?
winged reef
Ah makes sense why no one has True then
wind timber
Also, the thing with timestream it'll get it's stats raised periodically
So it's kinda perfect slot for years i guess
uinless they change smth
They buffed it already with this patch
winged reef
Yea cause base was lower than True
wind timber
earlier base timestream had lower ap than true hex
winged reef
Hex
wind timber
yea
solar python
the thing I wanna know the most about is the skill book system rework
really sad there is noone that can translate stuff properly
wind timber
the thing I wanna know the most about is the skill book system rework
I get it now
It's still 18 points per leggies
It's just that now you can get 12 points in leg right away even when 0 copies of the same skill are used
winged reef
So if I only have 1 legendary skill and no purples I have 12 GMs right away?
wind timber
Yes
winged reef
Only for legendary or also purple?
wind timber
Only leg
solar python
damn
solar python
yeah I think so
wind timber
12 And +6 for every leg
solar python
I was calculating with 12 per and none from first
winged reef
Makes sense tho with the new GM
You need 30
So you only need 2 legendaries to hit that
solar python
to hit 48 you want legendary puncture and 6 purple punctures
wind timber
or 9 purple punctures overall
solar python
yeah
wind timber
every leg is - 3 purples
even if it's 1st leg
Okay now it's big
For whales mostly obv but still
valid cradle
13*18 +12 = 246
The FM had 264 actually, but the numbers still check out
twin lark
we got it boys
spiral sky
we got it boys
twin lark
I have like 20k worth of gems selling and nothing sells
Not even punct books are selling
solar python
nobody wants to buy things overpriced even if its only couple K
twin lark
Not overpriced, pretty fair prices
winged reef
Had 1.4% crit dmg increase on my previous gloves and rolled 1.8 on my new ones first try
Decent rng today
gilded thistle
twin lark
Stack 500
thin smelt
Need 60 more gems to buy an accessory but nothing is selling
I find that I have the easiest time selling BS than actually good items. Like I sold some hexwood sword with low rolled def+evasion 2 mantra slots very fast for 500 dg. Took like 5 relists to sell a triple mantra one with 132 cdmg + some piercing for 7k
Probably because not many want to gamble with rerolling at legendary I'm guessing
winged reef
I feel it’s safer to gamble reroll legendary than trying to upgrade from purple with 15 ascent stones and 100g
At least if you have 1 good stat already
thin smelt
Yeah, true, but the potential for high rolls is lower since you have less evolution tries
I'm a tragic case of that. 7 ductile stones on my poh ring. In the end I got like +2 cdmg +4 crit rate. Lol
winged reef
Yea, I only upgraded my weapon from purple because I had double crit and really good mantra and psyche and it went up a lot with upgrade, and I still have 2 upgrades until True
thin smelt
Nice. I have ascended so far weapon and neck 1 tap each, but ive failed 3 times on gloves so far 😞
Still ahead of the curve statistically but it hurts
winged reef
I’m scared to try it again, so I just bought cheap legendary gloves with 120 base crit
Only need to roll for cdmg
winged reef
Upgrade to awakened is 30% over 20% that I 1 tapped and I already failed it twice
Huge risk it scares me xd
thin smelt
Yeah it's rough. I recently replaced my belt. It has nearly the actual max rolls for double crit at true siren, 3 mantra. I hope it goes well when I ascend it
Could be 200+ both before even awakening it if I'm lucky
loud hinge
I'm a tragic case of that. 7 ductile stones on my poh ring. In the end I got lik...
from a guildmate 
winged reef
from a guildmate <:gizaytroi:804415957145485374>
RIP in pieces
thin smelt
from a guildmate <:gizaytroi:804415957145485374>
lmfao
this is the offending ring that did me dirty, it had 107 crit rate 105 crit damage and i burned quite a few hm essence to fix it because i cbf to ascend a ring https://i.imgur.com/oeGCKeN.png
in hindsight, really wasn't worth it to reroll them, but it was just one of those things that taunted me every time i looked at them
had to be done
it took 111 poh psyches to get a crit rate + accuracy psyche so sunk cost fallacy got me.
twin lark
30 mins in there is insane, might get to lv 60 in 2 weeks or less
winged reef
133k is nothing tho when you need ~1.5m per level
winged reef
Did you go with a group or alone
twin lark
Alone
With a group is like 40k, not worth
Too much running and less killing
I'm lucky today
winged reef
Did you go on the lvl 60 area?
twin lark
Yeah
Might take a month to reach lv60, it's impossible in 2 weeks, unless you buy hour glass
Or if you get lucky with some hour glass drops
winged reef
I was on the lvl 57 area today, feel like it takes too long to kill the 60 mobs so less chances for the bigger mobs
But I guess it might be worth for the extra xp
twin lark
Not a whale and i do it in 10-15 secs
If you already have life drain set and use a life drain charm, do they add up?
winged reef
Yes they show up as separate drains
twin lark
Nice
jade merlin
is there is difference on rerolling a substat before upgrading the piece of equipment or vise versa? or would the 'min and max' also go up when u upgrade the gear?
vivid robin
is there is difference on rerolling a substat before upgrading the piece of equi...
I'm not 100% but I decided to do my rerolls in siren form since it's cheap, naturally the min would go up right, idk about the max but yeah
The rerolls in legendary form are super expensive
jade merlin
yeah was wanting to reroll 2nd stat so both are crit before upgrading to awaken and true siren tho dont have the essences to do so. so was wondering if it even follows through between standard to true siren 🤔 def not doing legendary anytime soon 🤣
twin lark
Am i crazy or when you parry after focus cyclone you kinda reset the effect?
Like an extra 3 secs
twin lark
44g to make this one. I feel robbed
vivid robin
yeah was wanting to reroll 2nd stat so both are crit before upgrading to awaken ...
the stats themselves will follow through yeah, which is why optimally the higher rolls you get in the most basic form, should lead to the best results as you upgrade
if i'm speaking to some newish player, i'd suggest going to true siren if it has c.dmg, but only do rerolls if it has 3 mantras + soul slot
wouldn't personally make a long term investment if it lacks slots
jade merlin
o7 ty!
vivid robin
30 mins in there is insane, might get to lv 60 in 2 weeks or less
teach me XD
haven't been too sure of the best way to farm there
vivid robin
Solo it if you can
i heard yeti's? idk if you're single/group pulling, i don't have drain set so, lil pot draining
winged reef
44g to make this one. I feel robbed
Did you have 3 blues or did you upgrade all the way from greys?
I got some blues but they are split between cdmg and crate
twin lark
All the way
I have so many to fuse but lacking gold
Just noticed i'm using some greens instead of blues lmao
winged reef
I don’t have that many
Then again I don’t use the right tab fusion, only the ones I get
twin lark
Then again I don’t use the right tab fusion, only the ones I get
This is the only one i use
winged reef
Then I guess you just have better luck lol
twin lark
Punct too i hope
rain nimbus
twin lark
If i'm dealing 29k on hae how much is that on tree?
twin lark
56
silver moth
yeah, maybe 25k i think
twin lark
is that enough?
gilded thistle
wind timber
wind timber
<a:Meow:1087448521684287628>
So imagine
I found a clan with a perfect sum
And the same day i joined sum vent for a vacation, so he's gone for a 4-5 days at least
gilded thistle
To be fair she approached us first
wind timber
There's really not a lot of them on mw
Most of them have party to play with
So yeah
wind timber
gilded thistle
sage tulip
gilded thistle
<a:umm:1364019063789060276>
sage tulip
azure moth
@spiral sky are u still on ?
loud hinge
47 spins. 23 dg/pc on avg
azure moth
wts na ?
mossy kite
WTS EU
fallow wind
is it worth to play dragon crash as DT player after the block % changes ? or just use violant blade , lock flash step and use the % dmg boost for block ?
somber kiln
Actually curious on that too
Dragon crash does a ton of damage when it crits
Almost as much as sunstroke if I recall correctly
But it might be more worth to just stack another DT
fallow wind
But it might be more worth to just stack another DT
if its purple DT then for sure
im just curious about the F block violant blade , when u block u get 125% dmg flat bonus increase
so idk the math behind it whats more dmg , dragonc rash when it crits 3 times
or the F block dmg increase where u also have to time the attacks perfectly
somber kiln
im just curious about the F block violant blade , when u block u get 125% dmg fl...
I beg your pardon? 👀
It has a buff now?
Or always did?
And ngl
F block in some of the new content
Still chunks a lot of health
I usually just full iframe
Bring back violent blade on dt use 😭😭😭😭
fallow wind
It has a buff now?
as i see it yes and what other people told me , purple DT has 125% block dmg it says but this means if u block succesfully i suppose u get a flat bonus on ur next DT use that does 125% of ur dmg
somber kiln
Oh? Thought it was just the stat
fallow wind
ye i thought the same XD
somber kiln
Like the block stat you have
fallow wind
but its not , u can also block ingame from the block stat
somber kiln
Hmmm
fallow wind
random rng blocks i guess they give u that flat bonus dmg too
fallow wind
ye
somber kiln
Whats your ping
fallow wind
im beeing forced ok
i would have swapped to opucnture long time ago
but i get 4 bound skills for DT
funny system
fallow wind
20-30
fallow wind
yea u need giga low pnig for that build xd
puncture too tho
low ping puncture go crazy
somber kiln
Thats why im pure fire 😭
Which is bad too but
Not so bad on counts with my 70ms compared to hybrid
fallow wind
Which is bad too but
well with the block changes its acctualy not bad at all , if u block succefly that DT spam keeps up with hybrid if u do a lot of blocks
somber kiln
Blocking is such a hassle on pure fire
fallow wind
and ping related too xd
somber kiln
Whoever removed DT from proccing fatal blade should be fired
somber kiln
and ping related too xd
Ik how to time it
fallow wind
whoever inveted that skillbook system should be fired
wooden rain
well with the block changes its acctualy not bad at all , if u block succefly th...
Get a block in game, use dt, and show combat text number of lines for dt
I'm 99% sure what you're saying is false
Block damage is just an extra line of damage that scales off your block stat, seen on any normal dt
I'm pretty sure a plain dt will give 3 lines now, base, accuracy, block
wooden rain
Every class has 2 boosts afaik yes
somber kiln
So yeah @fallow wind it should just scale on your block stat
If vb gave black dragon effect, similar to live, oh lawd
Would be op
somber kiln
Like either a 1 or 2s increase on black dragon
fallow wind
idk 2 other bm`s told me that ingame with the increase of dmg weh u block
but i cant see the numbers behind it either
when i block notzhing changes
somber kiln
Prolly they explained it wrong or something
fallow wind
but theres for sure something about that block 125% we dont understand
wooden rain
Not the first or 10th time localisation sucks
Although this time it might be trash in Korean too
silver moth
NC dev don't play the game i think
maybe they don't know bm lost base block stats on draw stance
wooden rain
Well we all know the initial % in draw stance they gave
spiral sky
10%/CR,CD
spiral sky
Idk, hybrid not working for me on 70ms
What? Its working on my alt on 130ms
Its just sux ass
But works
spiral sky
the convo was about block stat
Gm on puncture?
wooden rain
what
wooden rain
yeah we settled that already
winged reef
In neo you get 5% crit rate and 20% cdmg increase for being in Draw Stance
vivid robin
In neo you get 5% crit rate and 20% cdmg increase for being in Draw Stance
oooo I never even knew that
astral tendon
In neo you get 5% crit rate and 20% cdmg increase for being in Draw Stance
Is this tested or is this just copium
Still 💩 compare to what puncture build offers tho
odd dagger
secrets of the hongmoon
winged reef
I sold my soul to the Dark Lord and Mushin for this
valid cradle
Theres no way these are correct at our current level cap
twin lark
Mobile gaming done right
https://youtu.be/fH3sj7ARa2w
wooden rain
Theres no way these are correct at our current level cap
why not
valid cradle
Its a separate system from the actual damage calculations
spiral sky
do u use extra third party tool for it ?
That's not third party, its originally in the game,they just removed the option to see it
odd dagger
its 60 vs 60 calc
winged reef
Theres no way these are correct at our current level cap
Every time I level up they go down
odd dagger
its same in bns live
winged reef
So it seems accurate. If anything they are lower
odd dagger
it always calc based on enemy being ur level
winged reef
Almost there
odd dagger
spiral sky
winged reef
Puncture gets 15% crit rate from Tab Cyclone, draw gets more cdmg
but if you don't crit it's useless
twin lark
Are we getting floor 16 next patch?
winged reef
I don't think even KR has f8 or f15
twin lark
Mushin at least?
silver moth
yep, KR got f15
lethal prairie
found old screenshot of next dung dps requirement 
wind timber
gilded thistle
solar python
found old screenshot of next dung dps requirement <:Kapp:941472711522267156>
very realistic
astral tendon
Valira will probably surpass his old self by next patch lol
pulsar bridge
WTB ANY LEGENDARY SKILL EU
twin lark
inb4 1 billion burst req
winged reef
found old screenshot of next dung dps requirement <:Kapp:941472711522267156>
Oh you’re Saya Endou? I remember you from live
winged reef
yep, KR got f15
Well July, so they don’t have it yet
Weird to skip f8 and go straight to f15
Maybe due to the new story
silver moth
Yeah, so weird
lethal prairie
Oh you’re Saya Endou? I remember you from live
ohh who were you in live?
azure moth
how much purple punc worth now ?
lethal prairie
in EU I'd say around 20ish k
upbeat fossil
it's been between 18.5k and 22k past week
winged reef
ohh who were you in live?
xLucynius, think we were both from Greenhollow and in the Forever Chaos clan at one point
solar python
wind timber
spiral sky
solar python
new legendary skills
like legendary Puncture
legendary skills have extra animations
winged reef
<a:lol2:1343373675247960084>
Nice. Now max it
solar python
Nice. Now max it
at least I am crafting primers atm
now I definitely know where they are going
astral tendon
thx Rownen
winged reef
now I definitely know where they are going
The 8 set bsh block effect actually adds around 600 extra dmg on crit for me on my rmbs so I don’t think I will switch any time soon
astral tendon
anyone talk 💩 to Rownen ill charge to them now
winged reef
thx Rownen
Welcome to the freedom of being in prison
twin lark
@limpid blaze Found ya
wind timber
<:kekw:1009394634692247632> anyone talk 💩 to Rownen ill charge to them now
Too bad you came a little late to buy Onions punctures
spiral sky
Nanaya gonna summon 🧅 back
winged reef
Now do Lab to feel weak
solar python
I don't think I even meet tree reqs atm
winged reef
Apparently it’s only 28k dps in 6m so it’s not that crazy anymore if you can do tree comfortably
solar python
but I am definitely good to go on bsh2 now
my main is almost at a good starting point in terms of gear
primers and some psyches on soulshield and bottom row needs some work but then I think I am good to go tree when I get to 56
lethal prairie
xLucynius, think we were both from Greenhollow and in the Forever Chaos clan at ...
ahh yea I remember, damn that was a long time ago, think we even had another Lucy in clan back then too
gilded thistle
thx Rownen
Welcome back
astral tendon
Now do Lab to feel weak
lab is pretty ez nowdays
with 3 50k dps ppl the rest can sort of leech
winged reef
Yes let me get my 3 50k dps whale friends real quick 
gilded thistle
astral tendon
we actrually have 3 now
winged reef
I probably do some damage in lab
Specially since I think I’ve claimed the title of strongest lightning bm in EU since Onion quit
For whatever that’s worth
winged reef
winged reef
I got lucky with my weapon too. 80/120 at True Siren, 166/210 at awakened hex
wind timber
What
winged reef
Hoping for a decent jump again at true
gilded thistle
I got lucky with my weapon too. 80/120 at True Siren, 166/210 at awakened hex
Beautiful
winged reef
New maintenance new rng
gilded thistle
It's turning around. I was getting shafted so far
winged reef
Believe
gilded thistle
Pity king
winged reef
I 1 tapped my first purple book and legendary upgrade, the rng will follow and I will 1 tap my first legendary book too
gilded thistle
Legendary tds or stone slash?
Which one is your preference?
I've no idea how lightning works so I can't tell
winged reef
I’d say Stone Slash for the extra BD and focus. TDS would be nice but it’d be purely dps, I’d still have the same issues
Now a better rotation feels a lot nicer
gilded thistle
And potentially more damage since you'll have extra bd and focus
Now all they need to do is buff the build aswell
But I think they kinda forgot it exists
winged reef
Better sustain for sure. Lots of time I have 4 off cooldown but I’m out of bd for 6-8 seconds and almost no focus. More bd also less focus consumption
New Stone Slash GMs do help lightning too. 10s of bd. Hopefully it stacks with the base 6s, would go hard
placid jolt
gay
azure moth
so now we have to pick which one to stack GM right ? either TDS OR Stone slash @winged reef
cant choose both
winged reef
so now we have to pick which one to stack GM right ? either TDS OR Stone slash <...
You can stack both
30 stacks of Stone Slash are enough, the rest TDS
Legendary now gives 12 by default on the first one, so you only need 2 legendaries to hit 30GM
winged reef
Idk if it’s worth it, 48 is 15% extra cdmg for 6 seconds
Over another damage skill. 30 is the big juicer though
loud hinge
what are another skills besides stone slash & tds @winged reef
twin lark
Damn, this is the fastest mainte since launch
spiral sky
whats broken?
winged reef
Your rng luck
winged reef
what are another skills besides stone slash & tds <@121018603666407424>
What skills
worn rapids
Is it worth upgrading true siren CR CD with max mantra into hexwood? Or wait hexwood become more affordable?
twin lark
If i use 5 hour glass is that time saved up for tomorrow or resets?
grizzled gale
saved
honest haven
thx Rownen
quick question I've been ootl on hybrid a bit, is koldraks the play now with the heat buff or is that just used as a way to get back into bd?
I'm just rocking the ol hybrid rn
wind timber
quick question I've been ootl on hybrid a bit, is koldraks the play now with the...
Nanaya playing pure fire since after this amount of stacks it's better than hybrid and koldrak is for f block and to cover downtime when something went wrong
honest haven
Is it still like lots of stacks for it to be worth? Cuz every bm I see in game plays with like 15-30 stacks of dt and use koldrak
Haven’t seen a hybrid since wl patch
wind timber
Everybody who use koldrak playing pure fire
Idk if it even possible to anicancel it like saber
astral tendon
Is not
wooden rain
It might be, just no benefit to it
solar python
first primer max value huge
gilded thistle
winged reef
first primer max value huge
Should have gone for the 131 primer 
solar python
lmao nah
honest haven
Everybody who use koldrak playing pure fire
yeah thats my point kinda, it seems people make the switch from hybrid to pure fire with relatively low dt stacks?
silk beacon
found old screenshot of next dung dps requirement <:Kapp:941472711522267156>
Omg i remember u aswell
wind timber
yeah thats my point kinda, it seems people make the switch from hybrid to pure f...
Some people just don't want to bother
Or doesn't know
honest haven
aight
solar python
pure fire for people that want to turn brain off harder than everyone else
gilded thistle
I think you need to be more careful with pure fire than the rest of the builds
lethal prairie
Omg i remember u aswell
Ye I remember you too, we were in raid with jujil
honest haven
I'm good for a while then 😅
astral tendon
But they all 💩 compare to puncture
So the best choice is probably to not bother with draw stance at all lol
winged reef
Puncture propaganda
astral tendon
Apparently all leg books puncture is broken in kr right now
With 3 leg stone slash and rest leg puncture
More broken than wind bd
winged reef
Is it 10s of bd or 16s?
astral tendon
Idk, all puncture care about is the crit damage
wind timber
Yeah, lvl diff into crit rate would go craaaaaaaaaazy
honest haven
for me changing to puncture will prolly set me back a bunch since I got bound ES, DT and meteor, and my tradable sun stroke & badge has dropped off a cliff in demand / value. I'll just stay until I become the last hybrid player
winged reef
Anything to help my abysmal 30% crit rate in Tree
gilded thistle
ouch
astral tendon
1 puncture is actually even better since puncture doesn’t scale that good with stacks
gilded thistle
Time to prepare for the gamba
astral tendon
Is not like pure fire where 85% of your damage came from dt
Probably the reason why kr decide to nerf dt even tho it is already 💩
Cos it scales good
honest haven
dont u need like 4-5 other purples too? last I checked lunar slash was 15k or something
given how everyone switched to punc
wind timber
Problem would be to find the books
astral tendon
You can settle with blue and it is still better than hybird without good amount of purple to stack up
winged reef
Issue with stacking is if you’re not using that skill you practically do no damage
wind timber
And yeah even blues with purp puncture would still be better
Than low invest dt builds
wind timber
I mean, everybody going puncture rn for a reason
gilded thistle
Glad i got mine early enough
wind timber
Well nah, the price of the build is okay
gilded thistle
wind timber
The issue is shortage
gilded thistle
God bless Shllnx
honest haven
I do have the purple falcon tho
gilded thistle
solar python
honestly, once you get 1 legendary skill its not that hard to reroll it, even for f2p, you just pour all your resources into rerolling it with gold
gilded thistle
and you get 3 fragments and commit seppuku
astral tendon
Yeah wait until you salvage it for 3 fragment
solar python
yeah that is the worst part
astral tendon
Even tho there are also lucky ppl who starts with 1 book and end up with 2 books
gilded thistle
Does it take 4 to reroll ?
wind timber
And yeah taht's all
winged reef
4 pages 500g
solar python
Even tho there are also lucky ppl who starts with 1 book and end up with 2 books
so they just keep salvaging to 5?
gilded thistle
Damn if you luckack you printing legos
winged reef
Only 4 times
winged reef
Maybe they’ll start giving frags in events
1 per event would be nice
But then everyone would be making alt accounts
gilded thistle
They could do something in transmute, now that they introduced the gamba boxes
Like 8+ stones for 1 gamba box 75/25 purple/lego
winged reef
Or wait to spam Asura
gilded thistle
Is that a dungeon or a raid?
winged reef
Dungeon in Silverfrost
gilded thistle
winged reef
Only around 20k dps needed and it’s lvl 58
solar python
not stonks
wind timber
solar python
I just hope they start injecting more books into the economy
I am sure that would make them more money
gilded thistle
Surely
solar python
like even if the books cost half price, if there is 4x more sales they make twice as much
sage tulip
Yeah wait until you salvage it for 3 fragment
Are you gonna try and sell urs DT?
hybrid willow
Probably the reason why kr decide to nerf dt even tho it is already 💩
they nerfed what damage ?
astral tendon
Silver forst badge reduce the cd reduction of dt on ss from 1 sec to 0.7 sec
hybrid willow
less tab so
astral tendon
Why tw server has that much of a price drop?
silk beacon
Ye I remember you too, we were in raid with jujil
truuue ❤️
astral tendon
1 per event would be nice
I think kr gives everyone 4 leg frags pre silverforst
hybrid willow
Silver forst badge reduce the cd reduction of dt on ss from 1 sec to 0.7 sec
and soul badge dont give 1255% for sunstroke ?
at silverfrost
astral tendon
Silverforst does not have ss soul badge anymore, you can still use the old one
hybrid willow
lol
astral tendon
But the new badge released in silverforst only have dt, tds and puncture on it
hybrid willow
y only puncture build now
astral tendon
And dt is 45%
silver moth
Is this eu lol
this is on TW
hybrid willow
yeah other than puncture is trash
winged reef
I think kr gives everyone 4 leg frags pre silverforst
I need proof of this so I can start saving up 500g then
astral tendon
Is in one of there event I think
silver moth
sheat
hybrid willow
ofc
silver moth
last week it just around 12k
winged reef
EU market has 1 up at a time at most
silk beacon
i mean
ncsoft can always turn the tables
u just gotta be patient
and wait
till light shines back
surely it will, eventually, sometime
silver moth
of course this is the way they take our money, wait till everyone switch to puncture, and then buff DT back to over it
right...?
silver moth
fire and lightning will take back the throne 
placid flicker
dt 
solar python
why does taiwan have such a big market
placid flicker
theyve always liked bns
astral tendon
Mainland China players mostly go to tw server cos Tencent server are even more predatory in terms of of monetisation
Also bm in cn classic server is dog 💩, level with summoner in term of damage without utility
gilded thistle
How come? They got a different skill system?
astral tendon
tho they do have threat so you can tank, but sum cat literally tanks better
The skill system is a bit different, most of them comes as a drop bind to the accessory and skills work a bit differently
For example the maximum boost on basic stance rmb is a buff last for a few seconds
And they don’t have tab that increase crit rate so you essentially just macro lmb and rmb
winged reef
At least lightning is on top
gilded thistle
silver moth
on CN, fire bm is trash, everyone play lighting
placid flicker
how do you guys feel about skill books
astral tendon
True
placid flicker
vs old tomb
astral tendon
Fire is trash, lightning is ok, basic stance is only useful for tanking with abysmal damage
placid flicker
i actually dont mind it, i only wish the transmute wasnt 1% chance to upgrade
silver moth
book is good, gm otherwise soo bad
astral tendon
At the beginning, kr doesn’t have book stacking
silver moth
not really bad, i feel it just missing something
astral tendon
All books are cheap cos ppl just need 1
gilded thistle
6m legendary dungeons won't make them more money
book stacking took stonks to stratosphere
placid flicker
is f5 ever going to be gold based?
winged reef
You could have book stacking by upgrading 1 book therefore allowing players to have all utility skills
valid cradle
is f5 ever going to be gold based?
No, but gold can be turned into gems so it kinda is?
valid cradle
You could have book stacking by upgrading 1 book therefore allowing players to h...
I sure hope they would put a sensible limit on it
solar python
well NCSoft sure hopes there won't be a sensible limit to it
solar python
You could have book stacking by upgrading 1 book therefore allowing players to h...
the skill book system has dozens of ways of making it less restrictive but NCSoft clearly wants it to be very restrictive because its one of their 3 or 4 pillars of monetization in this game
mossy kite
God bless Shllnx
@twin lark haha ty ty
gilded thistle
thin smelt
Awesome! Mine is 224 crit rate with nearly the same crit dmg, also 3 mantra. Best of luck to both of us on the final upgrades
gilded thistle
Aye best of luck, we all need it in this game
astral tendon
Again, skill issue
hidden pawn
Again, skill issue
Nanya are u unbanned?
winged reef
Maybe we can finally kill Monarch Tree in a reasonable amount of time
Nanaya will solo it
astral tendon
valid cradle
Could you leave enough hp left for us to get credit for loot
solar python
it would be cool if you could just do 5 million damage and f*ck off
astral tendon
Half the server doing more damage than me now
solar python
without tree reseting
astral tendon
it would be cool if you could just do 5 million damage and f*ck off
So you are asking me to do 3 dt and piss off
solar python
nah I mean in general
like tree hp never resets
and you get drops sent to your character even if you leave msp
hidden pawn
I think he asking dor it to be like that
solar python
its 443 million hp
hidden pawn
Not that it is
solar python
yes
astral tendon
I get it now
somber kiln
So does dt really get a nerf in silverfrost?
winged reef
Nothing stops you from using current badges
somber kiln
Anywhere to see the full details?
hybrid willow
unique game who nerfed the bad spec
winged reef
They are stronger than the new one for fire
solar python
Anywhere to see the full details?
just on yast really
astral tendon
You will need to change to silverforst badge for stats at some point right
somber kiln
Unique game rhat nerfs the spec the class is intended to play
But i guess its not intended to play like that anymore
hybrid willow
na unique game who buff strong build and nerf other
somber kiln
Puncture is the move apparently
winged reef
The sf badge doesn’t seem to give extra stats
astral tendon
Judging by how inflated the stats are in silverforst
winged reef
But I haven’t seen it in game
astral tendon
Silverforst gives more I think
somber kiln
+5 soul
astral tendon
Maybe not that worth it
solar python
google translate
somber kiln
Very minimal
solar python
Ig you just have to upgrade iit for effects like the old ones
I'd assume they scale a lot harder in silverfrost
somber kiln
What
solar python
considering the +1-10 is like the main thing in silverfrost
somber kiln
Im on phone rn
Can you link the DT mystic?