Blade Master

[lethal prairie]

probably gonna need all the crit we can get since crit rate keeps going down with lvl :S

[odd dagger]

bms becoming the new kfm with near 100% crit rate

[lethal prairie]

lv 60 has 40% crit rate with 5.5k crit

[odd dagger]

is that vs lv 60 mobs

[lethal prairie]

its what the tooltip says so I think so

legal disclaimer, this is not from me I just got sent that

[silver moth]

I will copium more few days before switch to HS

Few other class still not get the gm buff

So... Let pray for DT

[green schooner]

any tldr on skill changes

please

[sage tulip]

[green schooner]

[astral tendon]

Puncture become the only build for bm

[honest haven]

Idk if it applies to dread as well but the green weapon seems to cause heavy lag / dc on mushin floor 3, several reports of this and they’re investigating it

So I removed it for now xd

[silk beacon]

i have faith

light will be a thing

they should fcking make it playable

[astral tendon]

What faith

The only faith I have is for them to delete bm draw stance

So at least we have better odds on useful books

[silver moth]

yeah, what the point of draw stance exist and nobody use it

[grizzled gale]

Man wheres Maria with his pierce cope math to reassure me I'm playing the best build to ever exist

[odd dagger]

pierce was the biggest cope ever

[grizzled gale]

I'm gonna be the only pierce player in the game (already am in cinderlands)

[odd dagger]

isnt new puncture gm stack basically makes it pierce now

[grizzled gale]

Hopefully we get gm stacks buff too

[odd dagger]

150% bonus dmg during bdr

[grizzled gale]

Yeah

Idk why are they killing build diversity

Probably makes them more money

[odd dagger]

was there really any diversity

puncture and pierce was literally the same thing

[grizzled gale]

Well, I guess

But now even draw stance doesnt stand a chance into puncture

[odd dagger]

draw stance is broken according to devs

maybe cause they are comparing the dmg of that 158 gm dt vs 62 gm puncture players

[grizzled gale]

Oblivious balance team

[odd dagger]

atleast they made hs viable with new patch

L pierce W hs

[grizzled gale]

And its actually good with high ping too

[odd dagger]

they finally realised the strat to milk high ping whales

never

hs is the new sunflower

8m range big dik skill

[gentle patrol]

Is HS build like wind BD?

[odd dagger]

wind bd if it never had to press typhoon

[wooden rain]

Hs will be the basic stance dt

[odd dagger]

S>HS 20k gems

[astral tendon]

HS is probably also better than dt

without badge

Idk, maybe dev think dt scales great so they have to nerf it, but then wind bd exist and that’s aoe

Maybe kr devs just love Lyn race

[solar python]

https://tenor.com/view/money-burning-engine-sailors-burning-money-gif-596954181853456080

[winged reef]

It’s on Blindside resist

[solar python]

Only problem with blindside is that the Iframe is pretty short

[solar python]

[silver moth]

no, problem with blindside is that not reset when you go back to basic

[wind timber]

It's not a fissure but flock of blades

[wind timber]

And no, it's not a damage during bd

[silver moth]

garbage

[odd dagger]

actually thats even better, is the 30 gm one bdr for hs or blind side to

because if its flock , then u can pretty much have flock up every 10 sec , if you have 5 sec bdr flock purple
you could have perma bdr buff on hs

well not perma since blade storm would have 18 s cd

[astral tendon]

time to use blade call

[silver moth]

Balde call stack viable?

[odd dagger]

blade call prolly doesnt get effected like the badge

[winged reef]

🤣

[gilded thistle]

ey

Name revealed a

[green schooner]

low roll

[gilded thistle]

Its always lowest

unfortunately

[green schooner]

bro the grind on this game

[gilded thistle]

Yup

[green schooner]

just play until you hit radom legendary soulshields

and then somehow upgrade them to max

[gilded thistle]

Rerolling that is also pricey af

[green schooner]

oh you already know you're only getting like 7 crit per fusion

[gilded thistle]

I don't know what they have in mind

[green schooner]

just like with regular ones

prolly just adding very open ended grinds

for players to always have an endgoal

[winged reef]

It's got better crit than my 6th piece, but I'd have to reroll the piercing for barely an upgrade if even

[green schooner]

even if the content is lacking

[solar python]

its desinged to never end

there is no end goal

its just an infinite treadmill

can't even spend enough money to get full best in slot gear

[winged reef]

Should I use it if I can reroll cdmg

I don't think the 124 block from 8 piece BSH is a game changer

[gilded thistle]

You could, just need to get the 2nd crit roll on the first attempt

i wouldnt go too deep for it just yet

[winged reef]

Yea not that crazy for rerolling attempts yet though it'd be nice just to brag about it on my f3

[gilded thistle]

[solar python]

what does it salvage to

18 gold for 1 reroll

just to have the same stats as bsh

legendary soulshield should have been guaranteed double crit

like worldboss

so getting subsequent soulshield pieces is actually giving you progress

[winged reef]

5 wood fragments

[rain horizon]

🤨

[honest timber]

thats crazy

[valid cradle]

90 pieces with the right stat to max it 💀

[solar python]

the people that got banned probably didn't launder their gems at all

put essence up on market place for 50k

definitely not sus

[rain horizon]

why would i get banned though

[solar python]

anyone with legendary skills is like 90% chance to have rmt'd most of their stuff

[rain horizon]

@astral tendon i find it more weird that u are the only one that is permad

aside from the chargeback chinese sellers

[wooden rain]

the chances that they didn't are about the same as the odds of getting a legendary book drop

[solar python]

yeah

[astral tendon]

tbf I didn’t before mid May

my NCsoft purchase history says i swiped directly 18 times in April

[gilded thistle]

Any update on your ban?

[astral tendon]

No idea

Rownen said he sent a request

[gilded thistle]

Good, then just wait, he'll tell you when you're unbanned

[astral tendon]

Maybe I can check tonight

[gilded thistle]

[wind timber]

Valira got leg sever

It's so over

[astral tendon]

Over for what

Is not like there is ever a competition

[gilded thistle]

shiny hatta hatta hatta

[wooden rain]

if this is your level of swiping when it isn't, how much would you swipe if it was

how far back from kr is west now anyway, isn't next update silverfrost

so they'd do it in like 2 months

[astral tendon]

The one after next one I assume

[rain horizon]

damn

any chance i get to buy ur dt

[solar python]

next one should be shadowmoor

and then silverfrost

[astral tendon]

I mean I’ll only bother if the difference is within 2-3 leg book stacks, which is not the case

3 more dt wont allow me to do 20k/s more lol

[rain horizon]

u should play legy heavently slasher

1 focus cost and u get 2 back on crit

holding down rmb is new rotation

[astral tendon]

let kr ppl figure out what’s broken

I mean im holding rmb now

Is just the result sucks

[rain horizon]

dt dmg and speed sucks compared to slasher

u were playing dt right?

[astral tendon]

Y

[odd dagger]

slasher is 55% faster than dt and has higher multiplier

[astral tendon]

Puncture still the most broken

[odd dagger]

it is actually looking broken af

[solar python]

even if slasher gets black dragon bonus it won't do it much good

puncture getting focus and 10% crit from gm stacks

its joever

[astral tendon]

puncture has 25% in build crit

[odd dagger]

slasher is infinite

puncture is not

[astral tendon]

Don’t know who think is a good idea

[rain horizon]

slasher looks better and 8m aoe

[solar python]

I don't think they understand the 5% crit from tab is basically 100% uptime

[astral tendon]

And with enough crit is basically infinite

[odd dagger]

puncture does have higher crit , but hs has insane multiplier if u dont have downtime

[solar python]

yeah but there is practically 0 chance adds are gonna be a thing for bosses to a point where that would factor into it imo

especially when they are doubling down on simplified mechanics

[winged reef]

Did you see my Blood Mane drop today

[odd dagger]

like even rn , if u compare puncture on infinite focus dummy

[astral tendon]

Did you drop 8 soul shields or something

[odd dagger]

vs hs

hs pretty much does close to same dmg as puncture

[rain horizon]

yes not for bosses but for stuff like it is nice

[winged reef]

#1357788582617813132 message

[astral tendon]

For msp its surely nice

But then do they have 60+ mobs in silverforst for msp

[rain horizon]

aoe em down

nanaya i need ur legy dt though

i gifted 2 legy books away

[astral tendon]

Y I know, otherwise I can’t think of where Valira’s wind sever came from

but no, if I ever play the game again I need it to roll for puncture

[rain horizon]

fair enough

i wish u goodluck

[silver moth]

I mean DT have good speed

Only problem is scaling

Trash, even on leg

[solar python]

they should just add something to DT critting

heat buff stacks

on crit

at 10 stacks you get heat buff

but you know

that requires thinking about making a good game

[astral tendon]

Is 2.5 hits per second

So it’s ok

[silver moth]

They just need make the dmg from spam DT become a buff in a few sec

[astral tendon]

But the ap multiplier is just too 💩

If it is perma 6.0 then is at least usable

[silver moth]

So we can maintain the bonus dmg at max 4 stack

[astral tendon]

But no, is 4.0 + 0.8 from rack up and 1.2 from grapple

[silver moth]

Yup, scale to low

[solar python]

wow guys we are getting the free server soon

[silver moth]

on KR, yes

but for us, not sure

[solar python]

this is the guidebook in our version btw

[astral tendon]

wtf is the free server

Like the one where you only get book for selected build and everything is trade through gold?

[solar python]

I think so, yeah

[winged reef]

Only room for 1 more stack

[solar python]

tree quest is going green at level 53

[rain horizon]

but you can still get the quest done even with lv 50

[winged reef]

I'll probably drop BDRancor for another purple it's probably worth it

[astral tendon]

Surely you can put more than 6 purple tds

Onion use to have 60

[solar python]

@astral tendon Could you please ask your Korea friends if mushins tower vendor is still weekly character limit with accountwide insignias? I am thinking about investing time to level a couple alts just to run that for insignias for when they go account wide

[winged reef]

With no focus recovery skills besides Vortex and no Blade Call

But that sounds horrible

[astral tendon]

You just have to skill it out

[astral tendon]

No idea, I can try to check

[winged reef]

I can get 48 easily but for more I’d need legendary 4 to drop other books

[static yoke]

Can i ask does puncture sometimes miss the target? Coz i dont see any dmg number after R and Tab. Or the numbers is bug and doesnt show on screen even though it hit

[wind timber]

Macro would cut the puncture if the tab or lmb didn't crit

[astral tendon]

still char based, so making alt for insignia is valid

[solar python]

tyty

[wind timber]

@gilded thistle

[twin lark]

All builds getting a buff except for lighting, light bms be like

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-whtie-and-black-cry-praying-looking-up-gif-553441503240360994

[silver moth]

And when the game is already dead, they will buff lightning

[wooden rain]

did you miss the news where draw stance got deleted

and pierce

[twin lark]

I wish

[wooden rain]

for

[solar python]

Summoner is kinda goated

for utility

heal, shroud, taunt, defense down, focus pin, group iframe

kinda insane

[winged reef]

The new GMs on Stone Slash is also a buff for Lightning technically

[wind timber]

Focus pin was insane thing

[winged reef]

Those that have pin but no focus are horrible though

Let me block please

[solar python]

same with grips

if you are ever gonna grip make it focus recover

Puncture just does like 50% more damage on those focus grips and pins especially if its a destro that can also def down

[odd mantle]

does windshock ss have set bonus?

[spiral sky]

No

[twin lark]

Considering how broken they are, it's ok

[solar python]

broken? yeah but not in the way you think

they always drop with lowest stats

[astral tendon]

At least is farmable now

9% from lab, decent chance

[odd dagger]

its kinda funny that it was 0.2 % on release

like what are u even doing that dungeon for at that point

[solar python]

nothing

the 'current content' is just future content

insane whales get to go early

[odd dagger]

its still whale content

but atleast they have something to reliably aim for

[solar python]

nah, if you've been playing every day since launch as f2p you could for sure do tree at least probably even lab

like hardcore

[odd dagger]

thats pretty much no diff than being a whale

if u are spending 24/7 in game to progress

either way

lab in last content was pointless

[wind timber]

2-3 hours a day is enough

And if you're smart or lucky it's more than enough

Prob you need more time in game in the last 2 updates to get 58-59ish lvl to stop missing fully

Someone said it's 1900acc at 58

Now with 6 people it should be doable with just "normal" players

[odd dagger]

its still 33k dps

on fujin

[wind timber]

He has less def

[odd dagger]

i dont think there is nothing "normal" about someone who can hit dps reqs for lab

even most people here barely hit dps for tree

[wind timber]

Well sure it depends on what to consider normal

I consider myself normal and i think at 58 i can start attempting it

Tho would be nice to hit at least weapon 1st

[solar python]

especially with MSP now getting to the level at least is not that hard

[odd dagger]

anyway

that wasnt point of it

last patch lab and tree was useless dungeons

lab and tree should have had current patch drops

from the release itself

[wind timber]

That is true

[solar python]

yeah but Korea doesn't care

regions outside Korea are just cashcows and even Korea doesn't get treated very well

[honest haven]

I believe they always roll lowest possible on wind shock ss

Since they can upgrade so high

[odd dagger]

i mean we technically got a better patch than korea

1 month after release

[winged reef]

We have to wait less for updates

Until we catch up at least

[solar python]

catch up

our region is probably the weakest among jp tw and west

and we released 2 weeks earlier

[wooden rain]

I see that as a good thing

Would be even better if west flopped entirely

[wooden rain]

Why don't we ask hydrolios if it's enough

He's the most insane f2p I'm aware of

[lethal prairie]

any cinderlands bros know for how much the WL took the sword?

[rain horizon]

u can check history of all wb items on f5 mein freund

[lethal prairie]

ohhhh

they added that thing from kr now too

ty

[shadow field]

not updated for now

unlucky

[wind timber]

Finally over 40k

[winged reef]

Can't wait for disappointment

[wind timber]

You got this

ez

[winged reef]

I’m missing the gold tho cause I sold it for gems

[wind timber]

[gilded thistle]

[twin lark]

I miss LIVE, at least new dungeons could be cleared day 1

[silver moth]

At least on live, we use brain when playing

Not our wallet

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-john-cena-are-you-sure-gif-5783187

I remember demonsbane being pretty much braindead

[silver moth]

i prefer the old class heroic dungeon than demonsbane

[twin lark]

Ofc

Demonsbane is reetarded

[somber kiln]

too all draw stance players, do you guys have spec scale ripper and a kd x or do you just stack DT?

for anklebiter being your only cc?

and shoulder bash

[silver moth]

depend your playstyle

[somber kiln]

i got hae core btw

[silver moth]

i alway have scale ripper, x3 kd and shoulder resis

even cyclone resis

people say to me have too much filter book

i feel good with that

[spiral sky]

Need help guys, whats the build for chad lightning

[twin lark]

Is it me or the new weap skin makes you lag? I took it off and lag is gone wtf

[wind timber]

I wouldn't be surprised

Tho i didn't dc a single time today after like 10+ tree runs

[twin lark]

What does that chain mean?

[wind timber]

Bound book

[twin lark]

oh

WLS rising

[twin lark]

Why am i getting this many puncts?

[wind timber]

New accuracy and block additional damage is 2 more damage lines

So it's x4 now with badge

[twin lark]

Got it

Ty

[silver moth]

Can you show your gear and stats?

For... you know, research purpose

[twin lark]

Not in game rn

Shtty gear and stats though

[loud hinge]

just failed mine. Closed game immediately then go to bed btw, gl bro

[teal surge]

Such a whale , teach me ur ways senpai

Also is this with summ def down + focus pin ?

[silver moth]

KR sv got an update every wednesday, right?

[vivid robin]

f ncsoft

[winged reef]

My condolences. Thank you

[wind timber]

Yeah, with Tarmiel

[wind timber]

Do you lose pity progress bar when you seal the item?

[twin lark]

Wouldn't doubt it

[hidden pawn]

https://imgur.com/1GbozLC

@twin lark @spiral sky we still getting 121 😄

[astral tendon]

For awake to true where you need ductile stone, yes you lose all pity bar when you seal the item and you have to unseal it before you attempt to upgrade

As far as I can remember, for evolution without the need of ductile stone, you still lose the pity bar but you can evolve a sealed item

[spiral sky]

Send me some puncs you dont need the stack with that ping

[wind timber]

What about siren to leg progress?
I can assume you lose it ofc, but just to be sure

[astral tendon]

It automatically unsealed if the upgrade is successful

[hidden pawn]

I have minimum stacks

16gm

[astral tendon]

This also apply to ascent stone

[spiral sky]

[hidden pawn]

ye 16 only haha 1 purple from lvl 50 and rest blue

[spiral sky]

What did u get in ur selectable

[hidden pawn]

tab purple

[spiral sky]

Whyy

[hidden pawn]

because was a much bigger upgrade for me at the time

[silver moth]

Why not cyclone

[hidden pawn]

https://imgur.com/tOK8DhX

[silver moth]

Oh

[spiral sky]

You need to look ahead

[hidden pawn]

Haha i want to get z for my next one

cause i dont want to spend 10k on skill

[spiral sky]

Thats dumb

Not gonna lie

[hidden pawn]

i mean they bigger dps bumps for me atm

[spiral sky]

You could have 3 purple punc

Falcon/lunar will drop like cyclone did

[silver moth]

For sure

[spiral sky]

Started at 25 now is like 3k

[hidden pawn]

I hope falcon goes 3k

[wind timber]

tab is okayish pick still, i can get the damage chase

i did this as well

[spiral sky]

Punc aways will stay somehow expensive

[wind timber]

But not the Z pick for sure

[silver moth]

On my server, falcon drop to 4k, tab still at 12k, but drop per day too

[hidden pawn]

I mean wont get bp for a month

[spiral sky]

I bought mine day one

For 6k

[hidden pawn]

ye ppl said was up for 2k even

but when i check 0 on market

and when 1 shows up its like 20+

right now z would be my biggest dps increase

then stacking puncture

although i saw stacking lunar and puncture is really good

[wind timber]

ngl Z is not that good

Don't glaze it too much

[hidden pawn]

better than fisssure

[wind timber]

It's not

[hidden pawn]

its +3

[wind timber]

+2 per sec

[hidden pawn]

oh i thought was +6 per second for 3

[wind timber]

You would still dry out of focus with this on tree

[spiral sky]

Purple falcon just allowed me to remove shoulder

For a extra punc stack

[wind timber]

I didn't even remove shoulder

[hidden pawn]

shoulder too good

[wind timber]

[hidden pawn]

iframe that gives u cyclone is op

[wind timber]

But yeah anyway Z is not a this big of a skill

Just get it when you can

[hidden pawn]

i guess ill get puncture in a month then

[wind timber]

Tab i can get it, cuz this is really big dmg number, but yeah

[spiral sky]

tab was 9k last night

started at 25

and is gonna drop way more

[wind timber]

He's around 10k for a month atp

And even them

Big nubma

Who cares

4 extra gm stacks can't do the same

[spiral sky]

well if u are free to play

you should care

[wind timber]

It's exactly why you would pick tab as a f2p

Cuz it means getting this for free (2k dg bp cost)

[silver moth]

wym Z is not big

[spiral sky]

thats the reason we started to talking about it

[silver moth]

i mean that cd very fast

[spiral sky]

its good

but not worth

spend a selectable

on it

did u understand that?

[silver moth]

ah yes

i see

[wind timber]

I mean yeah i get your point, but look at it
He would have 20 stacks and no tab, doing like 10-15% less dmg as it is on tree for a future maybe price drop in a minths time

Idk

In this time puncture could go lower as well

[hidden pawn]

time to stack purple tabs haha

[wind timber]

tab is still half the punct price after a month

[spiral sky]

punc still like 14k in kr

at the momment

and with the new leg confirmed

[hidden pawn]

ye but they get better stuff haha

[spiral sky]

you are in a really

copium right now

that it will get cheaper

[wind timber]

I know this

And still

[spiral sky]

everyone is moving to punc

[hidden pawn]

lol dt dead now?

[spiral sky]

nanaya can tell about it

rofl

[wind timber]

Month+ running around losing so much damage for a "it would be cheaper in fufure" for tab worth it?

Doubt

[hidden pawn]

he banned haha

[wind timber]

It's like not getting geared on the retail cuz "i'll get this gear for free in the few updates"

Like yeah sure

[twin lark]

@hidden pawn has a point though, there's no Z on market, ever. I've been snipping for days and not a single one, so selecting Z from BP isn't dumb imo, cause i'm gonna do the same

https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-ratones-coloraos-laugh-meme-laughing-man-gif-24899295

[solar python]

selecting anything other than puncture is pretty dumb

[twin lark]

Already have it

[solar python]

only things that should even be in consideration are cyclone and lunar for crit

[twin lark]

Already have them

[wind timber]

Z is just not worth it

Too overrated

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[gilded thistle]

Z is okay, but not worth the selector

[twin lark]

Tbh, i think i can even stop using focus cyclone when i get purp Z, cause i already barely run out of focus with my ping. So i'm sure i won't need cyclone anymore or maybe i will, gotta wait to find out

[coarse sun]

anyone know if i upgrade a true siren with 0 mantra to leg is there chance of getting slots?

or no

[solar python]

no chance

is there a giga macro for like 10 ms

?

[twin lark]

I think @astral tendon has one

No, wait he plays DT

[winged reef]

I love losing crit rate by leveling up

[astral tendon]

well imean

i have puncture macro

but not sure if it is giga macro for 10ms or not, i play at 17

[spiral sky]

[solar python]

I have this, but it skips a lot of cyclones. I am not sure if that is purely because my gear though.

[twin lark]

I think those timings are for 1ms

[astral tendon]

tab t r works better for me

[twin lark]

Why?

[twin lark]

2k here we go

[winged reef]

No I've dropped that plan

[twin lark]

lmao

[winged reef]

Cause I'd need a lot more to upgrade it

Better go hexwood and upgrade other gear too

[astral tendon]

idk, copied it from some chinese video and they said tab t r works better

and it did work better for me

so i just ran with it

[twin lark]

Hmmm gonna try

[twin lark]

Works the same as lb tab rb, at least for me

[solar python]

ah that could make sense for me

[spiral sky]

Sum/fm insignia

[winged reef]

I mean it’s the best yellow insignia you could get at least

[twin lark]

New hack, tab t r

[winged reef]

Free 3ap

[twin lark]

I broke the game

[astral tendon]

you broke the azura meter

[twin lark]

Inb4 those numbers turn legit in a year

[winged reef]

Happens the same to the in game meter

[astral tendon]

i mean im sure zevid hit that legitmately for a few seconds now

[spiral sky]

Spaming tab/t

[winged reef]

I get 2.4m dps

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-math-math-cat-numbers-cat-funny-gif-13385485103134761656

[solar python]

first double crit piece

stats

[winged reef]

1 TAP

[twin lark]

Bad results doing tab t r

[teal surge]

btw what nanaya meant by tab t r is that u should do the higher ms after r not after tab

that should be the logic behind it

u can do r tab t as per usual

but instead of like 150 150 170

u do 170 150 150

maybe more than 170 tho tbh

[odd dagger]

trying local ping stuff with 70 ms

[twin lark]

Using the same timmings, just changed the order

[teal surge]

if you ping is playable only with 150s u should do more than 170 on r

[twin lark]

All i did was change the order fr my macro, didn't touch any timmings

[teal surge]

whats ur ping

[twin lark]

70

This is with lb tab rb

[teal surge]

willing to use ahk ?

[twin lark]

Already use ahk

[teal surge]

ok u got the low ping file ?

[twin lark]

Low ping file?

[teal surge]

low ping v6

[twin lark]

I made this macro myself

The timmings

[teal surge]

ok will send u text and copy them into urs

[twin lark]

Don't cause i already tried that form skyzee's

Doesn't work for me

[solar python]

what does ahk do?

does it like pixel search?

[spiral sky]

Its already in v8

[teal surge]

xdd

[spiral sky]

Thats for hybrid one

[teal surge]

what did u add in v8 ?

[spiral sky]

Got better consistency with extra loop

[teal surge]

care to share ?

[spiral sky]

Can't right now

Not at home

Let me see my dms

If i have save it thrre

[loud hinge]

Gratz. Now i’m considering to buy the sword instead stacking another 15 stones. Should i?

[twin lark]

I know i would

[spiral sky]

Yep, got only the high ping file here

[solar python]

I tried to increase the timer after R to 0.19 and its still skipping cyclones, I guess it really is just my crit being low and having too many unboosted punctures

[twin lark]

Bro i got better results at 70ms

That macro needs a lot of tweeking

[solar python]

I have tried a lot honestly

I just can't get it to not skip cyclone

[teal surge]

wait whats ur ping ?

[solar python]

9-11

[twin lark]

It's not for 10ms but try it and adjust

[teal surge]

9 11 ping ?

😮

[twin lark]

I don't skip lmbs

[solar python]

9-11 ms

[spiral sky]

Low ping one i can share it later

[solar python]

it says 10 ingame but exitlag says 9

[solar python]

I'd appreciate it

[teal surge]

check dm

[winged reef]

Skyze is everyone’s macro dealer

Must be getting paid a lot

[spiral sky]

I wish

[solar python]

payed in love and affection

[teal surge]

join us on the skyze deal partners

[spiral sky]

https://tenor.com/view/cartoons-fox-poor-gif-1822557610132461417

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/choso-macro-stop-please-gif-689733600398600892

[edgy lion]

Which of the purple card sets is better for dps?

[twin lark]

Life drain i guess

360

[spiral sky]

Gambah for yura/mushin

[solar python]

alright

I am gaming

4 rolls I got 2 5% exp and 1 10% exp

1 left on neck and 1 left on mystic

[winged reef]

I got shafted too much by these I don’t reroll anymore

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-woah-oh-word-you-serious-oh-damn-gif-4581396

tbh i quit trying + ran out of mats

[solar python]

I do skyhaven, dragon express, and I buy the 50 from the bg vendor and all goes into exp

I got really lucky on the badges tbh

I got 2 10% on them outright no powder

[twin lark]

Badges are the easy ones, cause you can use 3 different mats to try

But accs are a pain

R TAB T is the way. TAB R T doesn't work for me

[spiral sky]

53 with 210 boost

Whale

[solar python]

free2play

but I crank some gems by playing multiple accounts and playing the game old bns style

log char and do daily challenge

finally not skipping cyclones anymore

[honest timber]

what dps meter is everyone using?

azuras?

[winged reef]

In game one

But don’t tell anyone

[twin lark]

This makes no sense, why is your puncture lower than mine but tab r higher?

[honest timber]

dont have that one 😭

[solar python]

way less crit

don't have crit cyclone yet and I am still under 3k critrate cause I am starting work on SS

20% more crit, 10 from fully build SS and 10 from cyclone book should give roughly 70 more puncture counts for me

if my head math is correct

[twin lark]

got it

[winged reef]

Focus dummy?

[solar python]

yes

[teal surge]

My dream numbers 😦

[loud hinge]

Guys, there was a dude who has lower ap, cr/cd than mine but his piercing was higher (2k2 compare to mine 1.6). He dealt more dps than i did. (Both did smooth performance)
Could it be the difference of ping? Or piercing really matters? I’m playing at 44-59ms

[solar python]

EU? got names?

[twin lark]

What if he has life drain?

[loud hinge]

NA. I forgot his name

[solar python]

only thing that could make that difference is accuracy

unless its legit just ping and he plays better

but it sounds like it was a lot worse gear

[loud hinge]

He had everything lower than mine but piercing

We had same stacks DT build

[spiral sky]

Show parser

If u know his dps, u have it

[loud hinge]

Like ya said, piercing is useless on BM. So, that could be ping

He played at lower ping

[winged reef]

Look at his DT counts?

If he has more he had a better rotation or better ping

[gilded thistle]

[loud hinge]

It’s been month ago. I just recalled it

[spiral sky]

Rofl

[loud hinge]

I have too much irl to concern bro

[spiral sky]

Month? Tho

Could be drain

Soulcore

Etc etc

Badges

[loud hinge]

I ran a test. Left screenshot is 150 piercing higher.

[loud hinge]

Month ago, yes

Idk guys, just want to figure if piercing really matters

[spiral sky]

Look your crit

Case closed

[winged reef]

Was this on a dummy?

Dummies have no defense

Piercing does nothing

[loud hinge]

Dummy

[winged reef]

Facepalm

[spiral sky]

https://tenor.com/view/sherlockholmes-gif-22362331

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/really-are-you-kidding-me-got-to-be-kidding-youre-kidding-me-seriously-gif-6521278384595665157

[loud hinge]

I know that was low. But his was lower than mine

Lol

[twin lark]

irl lag

[spiral sky]

On your test

Brooooo

[loud hinge]

Close the case then 😂 yall prefer acc over piercing, right?

[spiral sky]

Thiisss

60x54%

Obviously the left will do more dmg

[spiral sky]

Yeah try doing damage when boss evade

Go do a test on tree

800 acc + 2k pierce vs 1600 acc + 500 pierce

[loud hinge]

Your given numbers say “ you know what i mean, right? “ lol

Ty guys

[spiral sky]

Well when you tried with numbers you still failed

[spiral sky]

Left got more CR and more ratio, even if there's a def for Pierce to be doing effect on this parser, it was obviously that it would do more dmg cause the things i mentioned earlier

Pierce is not even the 4th desired stats

Ap/cd/cr/acc/block right now for bms

And acc is just to get 100% hitrate on the current content

[teal surge]

Whats the actual exact acc number to 100% hitrate lab?

[spiral sky]

[spiral sky]

Whats his level?

[spiral sky]

Yah not gonna do too soon

[spiral sky]

try that

might need to tweek down sleeps

[solar python]

v6

v8

[teal surge]

Same buttons?

Also he said ull need tone down sleep timers so maybe thatll help

U dont need v8 anyways with ur ping cuz v8 helps stabilizing if you were not already with v6

[solar python]

let me see

[solar python]

tried tuning it but I can't really get it to work properly like v6

[spiral sky]

yeah i cant properly test it

cause...yeah you guys know

[teal surge]

Yea u should stick to v6 since u already have local numbers with it

Ill be trying v8 cuz m not consistent yet

[dire summit]

I think the R Tab variant made me DC

was testing it on a dummy

I've been using the v6 one since I switched to punc and it's been working wonderfully as well

[somber kiln]

so like

if someone hypothetically is trying to increase their fov

where should they not look?

[winged reef]

What about camera distance

[somber kiln]

yeah that

[winged reef]

First place I would not look is in your DMs

[twin lark]

I don't wanna look in my DMs either

[winged reef]

Good choice, don’t look

[gilded thistle]

[spiral sky]

[winged reef]

Lookey would have hated being in this party, pratically no one meets the requirements

[twin lark]

Testing new timings

If i can make it to 110 would be a miracle

[grizzled gale]

I tried everything, it doesn't go past 100

[twin lark]

Got 102 that's something, used to be 97

96

95

[spiral sky]

basic stance isnt linear on ping

it feels that 0-50ms can pull 120/120, 50-140ms 100/100

sh1t like that

[spiral sky]

u got that sacrificing cyclones

[twin lark]

My cyclones have always been 96

Can't make it higher than that

96-97 never 100

[twin lark]

I really hope i get lower ping after switching to ethernet cable

[spiral sky]

[twin lark]

Is there even a point in doing WB anymore? this is just sad

[grizzled gale]

Yeah you barely get any cut if not top 10

Make a destroyer and sneeze at the boss for guaranteed top 10

[loud hinge]

somehow a f2p like me got 1st place lol

[rapid jolt]

how much should I sell this

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/80m-increased-revenue-%26-redeploy-3-fte-gif-2319601784744478471

[lethal dew]

anyone has BM world boss top 10 screenshot today NA? or yesterday

[somber kiln]

so uh

is the bp currently how they intend it to be?

[tough jungle]

no they wanted us to give no purple selector
but rowen somehow got it done even though it sucks that it's 1 selector per account

[odd dagger]

does it really matter

who is playing 10 char with bp on all of em

fk alt gaming

[valid cradle]

A 2nd character is kinda common

Especially with new class

[odd dagger]

common for 1% of the players

[valid cradle]

Who says 1%

[wooden rain]

i had 4 and would've had 5 but couldn't be bothered with it anymore

getting multiple characters up to where the grind becomes bullsh*t is much more fun than trying to chase the endgame to infinity on one character

a new dungeon is just a different-looking training dummy, there's no reward for it

[winged reef]

I’m opposite. I get on sin telling myself I will do dailies then lose all motivation cause I only have fun on my BM

[wooden rain]

part of that's because you play sin to do dailies and get progress for your bm

but you also seem just obsessed with one build while i like to play around with everything

imagine having skill trees and many classes then restricting people to one of them without even being able to try out anything

then reducing most of those builds to 2-3 skills

[astral tendon]

the f2p server you can sort of switch build with a new char

Here re roll cost you an arm and a leg

Shinx re rolled like 4 times and I’m sure he spent double the amount I spent

[silver moth]

too much gacha, sometimes i think i'm playing hsr

without pity

[odd dagger]

me , most people i know cba to even do bp dailies on their main

[somber kiln]

nah

alts is just speedrunning burnout

unless you got all the time in the day to game

[odd dagger]

yes

very little people care about doing everything and minmaxing dailies on alt

[somber kiln]

with the new content we get, its a lot to do already...prettyy glad for it

this patch feels like the game just started

becoming better

[odd dagger]

if they released steam with this patch

the reception might have been better

[somber kiln]

the returning event would have been baller

or refresh it and make a new returning event

[silver moth]

This patch is definitely better

Happy with that

[solar python]

I think I am pretty hardcore and I can only stomach maxing daily progress on 1 character

[silver moth]

[winged reef]

111 cdmg or 13ap in insignias

[solar python]

I think the only insignias better than pure ap are the compound ones with ap and crit stats

[winged reef]

Well I have a blue 111 cdmg but I could fuse the 7ap into 13ap and replace it

Or fuse 3 blue 13aps and only gain 2ap and keeping 111cdmg

But since the crit rate is so low in tree I might just go for pure ap

[wind timber]

Pure ap for sure

In any case

[azure moth]

WTB PURPLE THUNDER DRAKE SLASH, NA
DM OFFER

[twin lark]

Imagine if they implemented the switch classes with your current gear anytime you want. Would destroy the purpose of char slots but still, would at least make the game a bit better, cause all this grinding is exhausting

Unless you pull out the big card

https://tenor.com/view/mastercard-visa-spin-gif-7988939

[valid cradle]

If they did, I doubt they would make it cheaper than they did for live

[twin lark]

Well, i meant for free, but yeah, that's asking for too much

[twin lark]

They are slowing turning NEO into LIVE

[solar python]

they can't really do that because the gear is class bound and I don't think they want to make them unbound

[wind timber]

They did weapon transfer, so they surely can do gear transfer as well

But

I doubt that this would ever happen

[twin lark]

I was thinking more of a TNL kind of class change, at anytime, no cost

Even while in combat

Isn't it how it works there?

[solar python]

they can do anything

they could literally just make all acc not class bound

and make the market less insane

[winged reef]

I don’t want my card sets and insignias to be exposed, I’ll feel naked

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-there's-nothing-we-can-do-napoleon-pyritesian-gif-17490332095914688011

[honest timber]

didnt realize this sold for that much lol

[twin lark]

3.7k though

that's like a month

[honest timber]

more than a month

I've been hoarding them since the beginning

[silver moth]

time to sell it

[upbeat fossil]

did they up the portrait stuff to 20 from 10? you need to buy them or unlocks automatically?

[lethal dew]

any bm on heavens reach selling their acc? not naked acc

[twin lark]

I think it's auto

[upbeat fossil]

niice

[silver moth]

About macro puncture, can u guys share the delay? My ping is around ~ 40ms

[twin lark]

Ask @hidden pawn has 40 too

[hidden pawn]

sure

[upbeat fossil]

can you send one for me too

[hidden pawn]

sure

[silver moth]

Tks u

[hidden pawn]

@upbeat fossil @silver moth

[upbeat fossil]

Thanks, works pretty well off the bat

[hidden pawn]

Ye it works really well for me

https://i.imgur.com/1GbozLC.png

[spiral sky]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-hood-poor-beggar-alms-cup-gif-25773247

GoFundMe Skyze's Lunar slash

[winged reef]

Did Onion quit? He has almost no gear on him

[spiral sky]

thats the 1th wb curse

[wind timber]

Yea

[wind timber]

neen next

okay jk

[winged reef]

The pain of not playing lightning must have gotten to him

[spiral sky]

copium ended

with silver patch

[wind timber]

100% true

[solar python]

I think silver patch seems pretty good but then again they are adding like 20 extra upgrades after true legendary from moonwater.

NCSoft just can't help themselves making BiS basically impossible

[winged reef]

I hope you can at least upgrade from True Hexwood

Mine has nice stats and good purple mantra

Don’t feel like grinding another

[solar python]

I think you can but I woupd not be surprised if that costs like legit 500 gold for 10% chance

At least for acc they showed you can go from legendary to epic 😂

[wind timber]

You go from true leg to +4 new purple

better stats

upgrade is 100% with 30 ascent stones iirc

[solar python]

So its like awakened to +2?

Or only true?

[wind timber]

don't know tbh

korean guy was showing his trues

[solar python]

30 ascent stones though

[winged reef]

Imagine being Legendary

Then going purple again

What a downgrade

[solar python]

They want silverfrost to be a full on expansion when moonwater hasn't even been out a year

Its kinda insane pace

[thin smelt]

wts NA pm me https://i.imgur.com/nd25tFD.png

[winged reef]

Silverfrost is much better content than Moonwater

Just hope the Overworld still has the same activities as live otherwise it’ll feel trash

[solar python]

Sure but its gonna be like moonwater part 1 all over again

The progression just doesn't feel rewarding at all

And there is basically 0 events atm

The only thing that feels good is levelling up and that is brutal and insanely pay2win with msp now

Legit 3 events that do basically nothing for most people

Idk what clown came up with them

[winged reef]

I only have 120% xp. Had bad luck rerolling so I don’t want to spend more gold on it

[solar python]

I am at 215

[winged reef]

Not like I’ll be doing Lab once I hit 60 so no rush

[solar python]

You want 60 for silverfrost

If you plan on it

Especially if you are behind already

Like me

Getting 54 tmrw

[winged reef]

I got 57 the other day

Once I hit 58 I’ll be at +1k ap

By the time Silverfrost drops I’ll be 60 probably

[solar python]

I am barely 860 ap, I gotta find a good hexwood weapon to buy once I have my skillbooks sorted out

Just missing cyclone for crit and soaring falcon but those are in high demand atm cuz no supply

[winged reef]

Sounds like decent progress considering you restarted not long ago

[solar python]

Yeah I spent too much time on it but I have that until august

[winged reef]

Then you quit and sell acc surely

[wind timber]

[grizzled gale]

[spiral sky]

[grizzled gale]

you'd need at least a high 1 liner, haven't seen one in the market for a while

[twin lark]

Reroll both

[grizzled gale]

hongmoon essence don't grow on trees 💀

[twin lark]

It just asks for 1 per try

[grizzled gale]

1 on epic, 3 on legendary and 9gold

[twin lark]

GG

[wind timber]

Don't talk to me about the rerolls

Thank you

[twin lark]

That's the whale life, embrace it

[wind timber]

I'm just a small f2p fry

i don't wanna this whale problems

[twin lark]

[twin lark]

Just did a bsh2 run and there's a fm that took aggro from me even though he was dealing 19k and i did 29. Checked his gear, no mantra with aggro. What's happening?

[lethal dew]

u holding B for the macro?

[hidden pawn]

yes put it on mouse button

just made it b

[lethal dew]

oh i thought u actually using b

to play

[winged reef]

Neo is weird like that. Did you get pushed very far away at some point

[hidden pawn]

no haha thats heathen sht xd

[twin lark]

No

I know you lose aggro when CCed

[spiral sky]

its mech

hae+shadow combo resets the aggro

same as the hammer yellow aoe on blood

[winged reef]

Oh I thought he meant the twins

[twin lark]

Well, this is the first i hear about it

Good to know

Then he got mad or something, idk what he said

Something about tanking i guess he didn't like it lmao

[spiral sky]

"what a disaster of party" "tanking" "missing damage" ''i cant tank" ''Ima FM"

[winged reef]

Must be Brazilian

[spiral sky]

she is

[twin lark]

Not my fault hae jumped to him for no reason

he was 3rd in dmg

[spiral sky]

she was baiting?

[twin lark]

Yeah

[spiral sky]

so it was her fault

[silver moth]

Threat on mantra :

• Only active when block/counter success
• Gacha until u get threat opt

[twin lark]

What's the best way to farm exp in lunar? just killing shrooms and minis or anything that moves?

[vivid robin]

I think just strictly mobbing and bosses for possible time pots being dropped

[wind timber]

bosses giving 0 exp

just find some spot to farm in circles

so when you kill last mob 1st revives

And just do it for 30m

Unless some boss or golden shroom appear

[somber kiln]

is there anywhere to see wb meters by day

and by class?

[loud hinge]

is a true one worth 14k+ dg to take then reroll?

[twin lark]

You can, or you can just get a cheap hex and then upgrade

[twin lark]

Farm solo or pt?

[wind timber]

Full party with bigger circle would be perfect, but it's kinda sweaty

I'm too lazy for this, i have few spots that i can farm myself

Doing like up to 100k exp if you don't consider any bonuses

[twin lark]

Pt is faster but shared exp, so idk if solo is better, takes more time but whole exp for yourself so i guess in the end, it's the same thing

[wind timber]

Party you can get half of exp even when it's 6 of you

So it's still better

x6 clear speed while only /2 exp gain

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-baby-suspicious-side-eye-funny-gif-6639201701448518735

[loud hinge]

i dont trust my luck at upgrading anything

[twin lark]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24471438

[loud hinge]

upgraded 3 of my accs and failed 'til they hit 100% progress

[twin lark]

lmao

https://youtu.be/eOfgcjrOKEw

[twin lark]

30 mins in lunar with 145% exp boost

100k cause i already had 30

[grizzled gale]

How many spawns did you get? I swear its like 0-1 average

[twin lark]

Spawns of what? all i did was kill the mob with a hammer

every 10-15 secs

[grizzled gale]

The one that gives like 15k+ exp

It spawns randomly when you kill

[twin lark]

1

[silk beacon]

on 60 area im guessing

[twin lark]

Yeah

[odd dagger]

is there any area where u can group the mobs

or is individual the only way